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Ken Rosenthal’s manager HOT SEAT list + Royals therapy session · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Time to hit the inside scoop, presented by Game Changer
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  Speaker 1: FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal joining us right now. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just warning you, Ken, we're pretty pretty heated up today.
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  Speaker 1: You probably caught a few minutes of the last segment.
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  Speaker 1: But let's start with yours that I thought brought a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fire on Monday morning, the article about the
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  Speaker 1: managers on the hot seat. Hold up, it's April twenty first, Ken,
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  Speaker 1: it seems a little bit early for that article.
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  Speaker 2: It does, and I said as much in the story.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, we've got three teams, three
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  Speaker 3: of the top seven payrolls in the game, with managers
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  Speaker 3: who are under high expectations, and three teams that, for
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  Speaker 3: a variety of different reasons, are struggling.
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  Speaker 2: The Mets, of course, the Phillies.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, the Astros may be lesser known to fans
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  Speaker 3: around the country what's going on with them, But their
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  Speaker 3: manager Joe Spot, along with their general manager Dana Brown,
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  Speaker 3: they're in their last years of their contracts, so yes,
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  Speaker 3: they're by definition on the hot seat, and with all
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  Speaker 3: their injuries, they really could get a pass, and maybe
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  Speaker 3: should get a pass. But their owner, Jim Crane is
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  Speaker 3: someone who has not necessarily been patient at times in
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  Speaker 3: the past, and he is an owner who clearly has
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  Speaker 3: stated many times the window here will always be open.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't since he's one to hear excuses. Even
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  Speaker 3: though they've lost, my goodness so much from their rotation.
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  Speaker 2: Josh Hater has.
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  Speaker 3: Yet to pitch Paanya has been in and out of
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  Speaker 3: the lineup. There's a lot that has gone wrong, and
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  Speaker 3: you can explain it that way. I'm just not sure
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  Speaker 3: Crane will be patient.
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  Speaker 4: Ken.
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  Speaker 5: First of all, thanks for being on time. Means a
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  Speaker 5: lot to me. I appreciate it. Second of all, I
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  Speaker 5: mean espata, Rob Thompson. We were in Philly this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Rob Thompson. There's there's all kinds of stuff flying around
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  Speaker 5: about him, Carlos Mendoza. Is there anyone else we should
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  Speaker 5: be talking about that hasn't or is just those main
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  Speaker 5: big three?
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  Speaker 4: I guess we could call him.
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  Speaker 3: Those three jumped out to me as early people to
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  Speaker 3: look at. And there are others, of course, and certainly
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  Speaker 3: mac Otaro has had his problems with Kansas City and
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  Speaker 3: their slow start, but he's signed I believe through twenty thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Alex Corey in Boston, the Red Sox haven't exactly set
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  Speaker 3: the world on fire, but he's in the second year of.
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  Speaker 2: A three year deal.
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  Speaker 3: Ad I think you pointed this out to me. Three years,
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  Speaker 3: twenty one million plus. They're not going to fire him
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of the season. The three I mentioned
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  Speaker 3: were three that I thought, Well, Mendoza could have been
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  Speaker 3: in immediate trouble and still could be in immediate trouble.
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  Speaker 2: Thompson.
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  Speaker 3: The noise is growing in Philadelphia and Espada.
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  Speaker 2: Again, we have an owner there who.
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  Speaker 3: Won't necessarily be patient, so that is why I focused
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  Speaker 3: on them. But of course there's always the possibility that
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  Speaker 3: other managers will draw greater scrutiny as the season goes on.
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  Speaker 6: Which of those owners, because you've mentioned Jim Crane, but
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  Speaker 6: the Stevie Cohen also and John Middleton, which of them
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  Speaker 6: has a history of getting rid of guys?
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  Speaker 4: I know they're all.
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  Speaker 6: I guess Jim Crane's the most tenured of them. But
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  Speaker 6: who has a history of being okay with eating a
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  Speaker 6: contract like you said with Alice Korus contract or say
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  Speaker 6: making a move.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the Phillis under Middleton, of course, replaced Joe Girardi
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  Speaker 3: with Rob Thompson in twenty twenty two end up.
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  Speaker 2: Going to the World Series. So there's one example.
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  Speaker 3: Jim Crane. He doesn't necessarily have a history of this.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, they fired Luno and aj Hinch after the
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  Speaker 3: sign stealing scandal, but I don't know that that counts.
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  Speaker 2: In this regard.
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  Speaker 3: And he did, though, replace James Klick, his general manager
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  Speaker 3: after winning the twenty twenty two World Series. They could
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  Speaker 3: not reach an agreement. It was well documented at the time.
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  Speaker 3: Cohen does not have necessarily a history of this, but
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  Speaker 3: the Mets did change a lot of their coaches after
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  Speaker 3: last season, and certainly.
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  Speaker 2: Cohen had some role in that.
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  Speaker 3: Even if most of the calls were from President of
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  Speaker 3: Baseball Operations David Stearns, we don't know the exact dynamic there.
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  Speaker 3: So while there might not be a history, Steve Cohen
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  Speaker 3: is paying a ton of money for I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how many years in a row now, and his teams
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  Speaker 3: have not gotten results.
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  Speaker 2: Mendoz is an interesting case though.
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  Speaker 3: If you remember two years ago, guys, his first season
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, the Mets got off to a bad start.
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  Speaker 3: The Mets rallied to make the playoffs and then advanced
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  Speaker 3: to the National League Championship.
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  Speaker 2: Series.
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  Speaker 3: He was David Stern's hand pick guy. Everyone thought, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: this could be maybe the next great manager. Obviously, last
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  Speaker 3: year was a departure from what they accomplished in twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: It was a collapse, and they addressed that by changing a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of their players.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they also changed a lot of their coaches, and
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  Speaker 3: that often is a precursor to changing the manager. But
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  Speaker 3: it seems to me that Carlos Mendoza, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that he can get dumb this quickly, if you know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so Ken, I'm going to somehow take us from
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  Speaker 1: this to something you wrote about last week. It was
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  Speaker 1: connecting some of the former Mets players in the organization
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  Speaker 1: to the Orioles. I don't think we had asked you
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  Speaker 1: about it, but I also wanted to connect what the
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  Speaker 1: Mets are going through right now to the Oriols. If
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  Speaker 1: you see any connections there. I just remember two off
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  Speaker 1: seasons ago our show being like, Eh, lots more spending,
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  Speaker 1: but like this isn't making a ton of sense. They
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  Speaker 1: really need pitching, and then it blows up Mets this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: I like some of these moves. These are some good names.
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  Speaker 1: Half the teams out of position. There's so much change
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  Speaker 1: in so little time, and at least so far this season,
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  Speaker 1: it blows up and they might create a hole that
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  Speaker 1: they can't get out of. Oriols last year created a
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  Speaker 1: hole they couldn't get out of. Fired Brandon Hyde. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I was just looking at things last night. I somehow
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  Speaker 1: like stumbled upon your notes, Calum again and was reading
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  Speaker 1: it was like, I feel a lot of similarities here
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  Speaker 1: with what's gone on. It's not like these teams aren't trying.
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  Speaker 1: The Oriels two years ago they were trying. They had
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  Speaker 1: dealt with you know, Angelos and not spending for years
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  Speaker 1: they spent. They just seemed like they were off and
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  Speaker 1: how they were approaching things and did things differently this offseason.
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  Speaker 3: They're definitely trying both teams. That's not the criticism here.
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  Speaker 3: That's not anything that people would say, ah, it's not happening.
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  Speaker 3: You might question how they're trying, and that obviously is
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  Speaker 3: the question, or was what the Orioles last year might
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  Speaker 3: turn out to be the question this year With the Mets.
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  Speaker 3: My concern all along was that it was too much
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  Speaker 3: new new coaches, new players, a lot of new players,
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  Speaker 3: and I felt even going back to January, I wrote this,
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  Speaker 3: it might take them some time to gel and that
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  Speaker 3: ultimately might be what the case is here without Soto, especially,
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  Speaker 3: they're three and eleven, so they don't even have their
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  Speaker 3: best player.
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  Speaker 2: Then they have all of this change and.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, players out of position, players that are unfamiliar with
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  Speaker 3: the pressures that come with playing in New York. All
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  Speaker 3: of these things are coming together. So Fangrafts entering the
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  Speaker 3: season had the Mets with the second highest projected win
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  Speaker 3: total in baseball. I believe that was based on the
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  Speaker 3: numbers on paper, the projections, the talent that they had.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't always mean that the talent fits together. Now
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  Speaker 3: it's early, and maybe the Mets finally do coalesce at
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  Speaker 3: some point, especially after they get Soto back. But we're
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  Speaker 3: seeing another case here, guys, of when the projections and
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  Speaker 3: the numbers don't tell us everything. It might turn out
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  Speaker 3: that way, but at least in the early part of
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  Speaker 3: the season, there are a lot of things going on
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  Speaker 3: with this team, it seems intangibly and tangibly that might
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  Speaker 3: have created this poor start.
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  Speaker 5: Ken the Mets for three and oh though when Sodo
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  Speaker 5: first went down, so they were everyone's saying they.
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  Speaker 4: Don't need them. So what happened between three and oh
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  Speaker 4: and three and eleven, ken, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know, but certainly they should be capable of winning
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  Speaker 3: games without one Sodo. My goodness, Cisco Lindor, they've got
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  Speaker 3: all these guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yesterday we had was Tim Briton.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, Tim Briton, Okay, I want to check his name
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  Speaker 5: right on from the Athletic College.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and we asked him, why don't they just listen?
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  Speaker 5: I love Marcus Simeon, great dude, had a great career,
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  Speaker 5: put bowet, show a second baby at third. It kind
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  Speaker 5: of solves their infield problem. Listen, nothing against Marcus Simeon.
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  Speaker 5: Scott was banging this drum hard. You know, defensive run saved,
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  Speaker 5: but they got a score runs at some point too,
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  Speaker 5: and that I don't know that the defense gets that
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  Speaker 5: much worse by doing.
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  Speaker 4: What they're doing that instead of just doing what they've
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  Speaker 4: been doing.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Aja, you and I both know Marcus Simeon's got three
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  Speaker 3: years left on his contract at big money.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to give up on him so soon.
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  Speaker 3: Now, if you are paying attention, you might have noticed
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  Speaker 3: that while Marcus Simeon won a.
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  Speaker 2: Gold Glove last year and remains a very good.
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  Speaker 3: Defender, he hasn't hit in three years. It's not something
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  Speaker 3: that's snuck up on anyone now. They wanted to get
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  Speaker 3: out of the NEMO contract five years left there, three
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  Speaker 3: years left with Simeon. They thought that was a good
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  Speaker 3: exchange to sort of prove their defense. Well, okay, but
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  Speaker 3: you were going to sacrifice offense if past performance held,
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  Speaker 3: which so far it is holding. I don't know that
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  Speaker 3: they would do such a dramatic thing like that, aj
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  Speaker 3: even though in some degree it would make sense. Bashett
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  Speaker 3: seems to be holding his own a third defensively, so
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  Speaker 3: it's not a problem baby moving all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: That is a bit of a problem.
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  Speaker 3: They've taken a player who's pretty good and in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: kind of used him.
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  Speaker 2: The wrong way. So I don't know where they're going
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  Speaker 2: with this, but I can't see them giving up on
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  Speaker 2: Simmy and this quickly.
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  Speaker 7: So that would be my follow up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know we talked about this yesterday, but
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  Speaker 1: I am pretty passionate about this. You know, they did
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  Speaker 1: a deal that right now looks atrocious as Brandon Nemo
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  Speaker 1: is hitting super well and they could really use a
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  Speaker 1: Nemo in their outfield, and Simeon has caused the team
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  Speaker 1: to be out of position. We're pinpointing a guy, but
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  Speaker 1: it does cause a lot of chaos, and if you
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  Speaker 1: removed him, it makes a lot more sense. In your
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  Speaker 1: history of covering front offices, how much do they stick
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  Speaker 1: to what they did and not wanting to show that
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  Speaker 1: they might have made a mistake. And my question is
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  Speaker 1: if we get to June and the Mets are still
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  Speaker 1: in the mix but they're not in a great spot, like,
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  Speaker 1: do they start benching the players so that they can
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  Speaker 1: do other things? Again, I know it's early, but like
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  Speaker 1: you said, has in it for years. His bat speeds
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  Speaker 1: towards the bottom of the league. Like there's other guys
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  Speaker 1: that aren't hitting well, but they're peripherals and indicators are good. Right,
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  Speaker 1: this is not one of those cases. And I'm just
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  Speaker 1: trying to tell it like it is. This is something
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  Speaker 1: that could cost you your season by sticking to this
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  Speaker 1: trade that you made and saying nope, we are not
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  Speaker 1: giving in on this. This is how the roster is
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  Speaker 1: going to look Scott.
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  Speaker 3: It's a fascinating question and generally speaking, front offices do
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  Speaker 3: not like to concede defeat, certainly not this early in
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  Speaker 3: the season.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you asked about June.
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  Speaker 3: And if this is still going on and it's still
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  Speaker 3: a problem, sure at that point you have to take
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  Speaker 3: a look at it.
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  Speaker 2: You can't simply let.
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  Speaker 3: Things continue in a negative way if you don't feel
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  Speaker 3: that they're going to get better. I'm sure they want
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  Speaker 3: to give Marcus Simeon more of a chance to breathe here,
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  Speaker 3: he too is joining a new team. He's never played
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  Speaker 3: in New York. I know he's experienced, but it's a
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  Speaker 3: different animal there. And you can't just say on April
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  Speaker 3: twenty first, hey it's done.
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  Speaker 2: We can't live like this in time.
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  Speaker 3: Sure that might be a decision that they're forced to make,
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  Speaker 3: but I can't see them doing it yet. But to
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  Speaker 3: your basic question, do front offices like to concede defeat?
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  Speaker 2: No, they don't. None of us do when we're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But at times it has to happen.
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  Speaker 3: And what's really interesting about the Mets, as opposed to
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  Speaker 3: say another struggling team, even the Royals, for example, they
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  Speaker 3: have put all this money into the team, second highest
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  Speaker 3: peril in the game. I don't know how patience Steve
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  Speaker 3: Cohen's going to be. I know he's got a ton
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  Speaker 3: of money and it doesn't matter to him. It's a
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  Speaker 3: line item in his ledger sheet. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: he's frustrated too. And remember what he said when he
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  Speaker 3: took over woned a World Series title within three to
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  Speaker 3: five years.
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  Speaker 2: You are well past that window.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, wanting to win makes you make good choices and
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  Speaker 6: bad choices alike. But I'm gonna go across the country
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  Speaker 6: to a team that's not struggling at all, but they
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  Speaker 6: lost their closer, their key off season acquisition in Edwin Diaz.
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  Speaker 6: The impact of that loss one, how did the Dodgers
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  Speaker 6: deal with it?
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  Speaker 4: Two?
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  Speaker 6: Is there a better team more set up than the Dodgers?
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  Speaker 6: And is this er for two now for Edwin Diaz
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  Speaker 6: and a WBC because obviously the freak injury last time
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  Speaker 6: and he pitched this year. Bone chips don't happen in
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  Speaker 6: a month, but this is this is just not a
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  Speaker 6: good look if I'm looking from the outside in Well.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what we can attribute this injury to.
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  Speaker 3: And the other one was a freak injury. This one, yes,
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  Speaker 3: he did pitch and who knows what that might have
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  Speaker 3: meant to the condition of his arm.
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  Speaker 2: It's impossible to say will he be back.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, they're saying he's going to be back sometime
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  Speaker 3: in the second half of the season. It's elbow surgery,
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  Speaker 3: it's not Tommy John surgery. Still, you never want to
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  Speaker 3: see a player undergo any form of operation.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easy to come back from. We kind of
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  Speaker 2: take it for granted.
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  Speaker 3: These guys come back whole, and often they do, but
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  Speaker 3: it's not that easy.
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  Speaker 2: How can they recover or what will they do?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 2: That's not going to be that much of a problem
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  Speaker 2: for them. They've got Tanner.
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  Speaker 3: Scott who is again throwing well, and they've got, of
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  Speaker 3: course a set of other relievers who are really good
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  Speaker 3: from Vesia and trying in the whole group trying to
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  Speaker 3: maybe is not what he once was, of course, but
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  Speaker 3: they should be okay.
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  Speaker 2: In that regard.
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  Speaker 3: This is the team that is incredibly deep. They can
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  Speaker 3: bring up a young arm for the bullpen at some
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  Speaker 3: point if necessary. I don't see that being the issue here.
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  Speaker 3: The question I have is when he comes back, is
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  Speaker 3: he Edwin Diaz or is he something less than that?
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  Speaker 2: Then it becomes a concern.
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  Speaker 3: But even then, he's going to be back, say July August,
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  Speaker 3: and you would think he'd have time to build strength
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  Speaker 3: toward the playoffs. What do the Dodgers care about most
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs? So even if Edwin Diaz had been healthy,
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  Speaker 3: they might have eased up on him at some point
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  Speaker 3: in the season. That's what they do, and they will
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  Speaker 3: always slow play injuries. So I don't know that this
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  Speaker 3: is as big a blow to them as it would
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  Speaker 3: be to other clubs, but certainly it's not an encouraging development.
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  Speaker 2: No one would say.
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  Speaker 4: That on the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 5: Dalton Rushing had his quotes about the thing, and then
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  Speaker 5: he admitted he wasn't really in on the scouting report,
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  Speaker 5: and then he played first base yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Would is there an.
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  Speaker 5: Opportunity here where they would think about moving him if
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: they needed a piece at the trade deadline, because I'm
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: sure there's teams out there that would love to have
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: Dalton Rushing as their everyday catchers. Never going to happen
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: as long as Will Smith's there, So are there is
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: there a way that you could see that the Dodgers
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: would think about possibly moving in because he is raking.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: AJ we were talking about this I believe in the
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: car going over to the game on Saturday, and he
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: is in a position like a lot of young Dodgers
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: players have been in the last few years, where he'd be.
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  Speaker 2: Better off elsewhere. Doesn't mean the Dodgers feel he'd be
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: better off elsewhere.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: And when I say better off, he'd get more playing
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: time elsewhere.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: The Dodgers, I am sure, see this as well.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Where one will Smith injury away from really needing Dalton
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Rushing And why would we trade him when we're in
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: that position and when we have Rushing contributing as he
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: is in a part time role. So what's best for
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Dalton Rushing in terms of his career might not be
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: best for the Dodgers, And I guess at the deadline, sure,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: anything is possible, but I can't see the Dodgers entertaining this.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Unless it was a major deal.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Unless they we're getting something huge in return, and I'm
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: not sure what that would be at this point.
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  Speaker 5: Well, my point was when Ken and I had the conversation,
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  Speaker 5: I think Joe was in the car too, Joe Davis,
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• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I asked Joe.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I said, Joe, how's dalon rushing handling this, because he's
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: probably saying if I was on twenty nine, not twenty nine,
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: but a lot of other teams, there's probably twenty four
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: teams he could go to that he would be the
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: starting catcher, play every day, and he's just not playing.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: And when he gets in there though, he bangs and
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: then and Joe's like, oh, he's handled it great, and
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: he said all the right things. Of course he's gonna
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: say all the right things, but deep down he's got
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: to be thinking, Please, I love that I'm gonna get
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: a ring. Maybe I already got one, maybe I can
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: get another one, But I'd also like to earn some
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: money for my family and have a nice career.
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: And play baseball every day. Yes, yeah, in.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: LA, it's not gonna happen. That was I mean, I
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know what they do with him.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: It was just a question that Ken and I and
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Joe talked about.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we had an interesting one in.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Aj also too.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: You do hear from the young Dodger players that there's
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: nowhere else they'd rather be, even learning so much and
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: it's the model franchise in sports right now. But at
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: the same time, from an individual standpoint in terms of
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: earning money and getting to play the game you love
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: and you've trained your whole life to play, it's not
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: a great situation for some of these guys.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So there is that yin and yang there with the Dodgers.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: But to answer the question again, I just don't see
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: them trading Russian is ultimately.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Listen, of course they're gonna say that no one's gonna
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: come out, but they don't have any young guys that one.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: What's the other young guy they have?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Well, if Casparius has been in that position before, some
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: of their other young pictures and she had.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: For him pictures are way different than we talked.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: About hesse On Kim yesterday and how he's.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Not a young guy. He's already got paid.
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he did that much.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: This is a young kid who is a pig, who's
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: been who was on the Dodgers, and there ain't nowhere
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: for him to go.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: There's nowhere for him.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: There's no path in the next seven years or how
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: many ever years Will Smith has left for him to
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: play all the time unless something God forbid having there's
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: not a path. No, Dodgers are just saying going.
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  Speaker 4: First base Freddy, they have DH take and they have
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  Speaker 4: catcher taking.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but Ken rich owners luxuries having depth like that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I have two elite catchers.
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  Speaker 7: What about you?
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  Speaker 7: Ken, Thank you, we'll talk to you later this week.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson, our friend back on foul Territory and he
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: covers the Royals for the case star. Jalen, it's good
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: to see you and I love your smile. It's not
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: something we're seeing too frequently right now for Kansas City,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: So tell us what's happening. This team looked like it
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: was going to be decent, and it still might be,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: But do they feel like they're in a little bit
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of a Code red situation right now.
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what's up, guys, Hope you guys are doing well.
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on, and you're absolutely right, Scott.
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: The Royals did not think they were going to be
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: in this spot this season, just looking at it being
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: so early and the team they put together, going out
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: and acquiring a guy like Isaac Collins from the Milwaukee Brewers,
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: getting Laye Thomas, a guy that's had great production in
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: his career. They did not think with the returning guys
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: of Bobby Way Junior, Mike Elgarcia, if any pass Routino,
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: Salvador Perez, Seth Lugo, Michael Waka, Cole Reagance, the list
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: goes on and on, they were going to be seven
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: and sixteen, and as Bobby Way Junior put yesterday, arguably
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: the worst team in baseball. This was a shock. This
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: was something that they did not want to happen. We
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: saw them in the World Baseball Classic and how well
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: they performed. They were to talk of the of the world.
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: They were to talk of just the whole thing, right,
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: Vinnie Paspentina with the coffee shots, Venezuela winning, Mikeel winning,
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: the MVP Award in the WBC. So this was totally
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: a stop to their system and now they're trying to
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: figure out how to get out of it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Well, how do they get out of it?
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Because they can't score any runs and by the way,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: White Socks are ahead of the Royals, just saying can
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: we show those standings.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: A little bit more? A good wait talk, But how
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: do they get out of it?
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: Because the biggest problem they're pitching hasn't been awful though
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: the bullpen has been a kind of a disaster, especially
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: once the Steven went down and Ersik struggled as a closer.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: But how do they get out of this?
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Because Vinnie's not hitting, Salvey's not hitting, Michael's doing fine,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Bobby's doing fine, but there's a whole list of guys
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: that aren't really performing up to what the Royals thought.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: So how do you fix that whole thing?
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Aj, it is kind of like and the way
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: I view it as this right here, when I'm watching
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: each game and I'm writing my game story, you will
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: see the roles beating games and it's like two to one,
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: three to two, five to four, right, And you just
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: have a feeling that the bullpen is going to give
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: it away at the end of the game. And it's
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: been like that for multiple occasions this season where they
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: will have a leader, it's tied and you just know
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: you have a gut feeling this is not gonna go
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: the way the roles we want to go. So how
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: do they fix this? I mean, I guess the easiest
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: question is to score more runs, but that's harder to
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: do in Major League Baseball because everybody is so good
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: and pictures throw one hundred miles per hours all throughout
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: the innings, right, So I think they just have to
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: They say they want to keep fighting. They said that
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: that's their goal, that's the mentality. But really, I guess
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: when you're in a slump like this, just don't press
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: and just get back to playing the game of baseball.
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: Like Bobby said yesterday, enjoy it. It's a privilege to
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: wear that jersey, and that's what they're that's their mindset.
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: Come out there and just play and just let the
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: chips fall what they may.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: All Right, Well, what about that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: I know you said it's hard to hit, but it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: hard to hit for everybody. They move the fences in
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: and we ain't see nothing different about home runs for
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: the Royals. I think they're twenty third in Major League
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: Baseball right now and home runs, Like Bobby Witt has
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: zero homers, he's never been driven in, so he can't
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: score runs that way. Like, is it a approach as
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: a team because they're.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Really good at not striking out?
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Or is it the fact that they just don't have
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: the personnel on this team that's gonna be able to
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: score runs that way, so they have to do it
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: in little bunches here and there, with singles and doubles
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: and stealing bases.
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you're right. It is the personnel to
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: a certain degree. They went and they, like I say,
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: they got Isaac Collins, they got Wayne Thomas, they got
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: guys they thought that could fix in helping the outfield.
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: But when Vinnie and Paspentino and salade Bras are not hitting,
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: that's a problem. If you look at yesterday's game, they
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: had bases loaded with no outs in the third inning
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: and not one run score. None of those runners on
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: base came home to score. That's a bigger indictment to
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: this entire offense. It's just that they can't figure out
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: a way to put the big inning together and when
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: they have, Like I look back at a game they
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: played against the Detroit Tigers last week. They were down
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: six to one, they come back, they take the lead.
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: Salvador Perees is a three run homer and they couldn't
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: hold that game. So you know there's flashes of it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: There's flashes of those big innings. You know they can
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: do it because if you look at the back of
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: their baseball car, and I tell everyone this all the time,
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: they are gonna be the guys that their baseball car,
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: their career says they are. It just hasn't happened so far.
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: In April. Benny notoriously starts slow in the early months
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: of a season, so maybe he'll turn around as the
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: season goes on. Soalde Perez, he's a guy that hit
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: thirty home runs and one hundred RBIs. He's the team captain,
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: world's legend. People know that way can do. But he's
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: also going to be turning thirty six years old. Is
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: it to a point where father time might be catching
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: up with him? You like it to see how a
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: Carter Jensen and Jack Kagalon, But Jack Casgione just hit
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: his first home run yesterday he had hit a home
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: run since the end of September last year, right, So
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: all these things it's like I always like it to like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: if you are in the kitchen and you're cooking food
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: and you're trying to make several different things at one time,
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: it's hard to regulate the temperature of everything and get
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: it done and fix and prepare properly. And I think
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: if the bullpen's not working, the office is not working,
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: you just have a meal that you just can't enjoy
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: right now. And that's what really Royles fans are getting,
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: and that's why they booed in conn yesterday. And while
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: they're continuing to say we need change, we need change,
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: the question is will the Royals give them that change?
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: Will they make those changes inwardly to get back up
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: the al central standings?
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Jalen?
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: What's the change though? Is there a coffee machine in
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: the dug out? Is it a venezuela or someone with venezuela?
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Whatever they did in the WBC, what's the what's the change?
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Bring up someone from Triple A? What's that gonna do?
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: These guys are kind of who you got, So what's
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: the change that macuatroll could make? To try to mess
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: mess with the I don't know the chemistry or whatever.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's good question. AJ you look at what
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: they could do. They put different guys in the lineup.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: They they put guys based on matchups, and they try
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: to do everything they can. They got three hitting coaches.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: You got al the zum, Watt got Marcus Themes, you
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: have Connor Dawson. They're working with the guys really and
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: I think the guys just have to swing their way.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Out of it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: And the question is can you really do that during
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: the season of one hundred and sixty two games where
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: every game matters, and each time that you keep giving
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: away games, does that take your confidence away a little bit?
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: Does that does your confidence wane every time that you
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: go up there and you're not getting the job done?
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: You know, honestly, I think the change is going to
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: have to be Bobby Way Junior and Vinnie Paspentina of
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: Salvador Perez coming together and really getting this team going
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: in the right direction. The leaders on this team, they
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: went through something like this last year and they had
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: a players only meeting and in that meeting they a
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: lot was said that allowed them to really come together
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: as a team, and maybe that might be something that
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: might need to be on the horizon coming up. But
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: they've been close a lot of these games. I will
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: give them that. It's just a matter of finishing off
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: the deal in getting those victories, and I think they
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: can do that. It's still way early in the season,
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: so we could be talking about a totally different team
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: in July, but right now it doesn't look good.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Jalen as the fourth place White Sox manager Ozzie Gean
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: used to say, good teams play, bad teams have meetings.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: So meetings or meetings are one of those things that
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: I just don't I don't understand why people think, oh,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: have a team meeting, it'll cure it doesn't it doesn't matter,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: and tell you guys aren't trying to play well. So
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: right the mental breather quote from Quatruro, did that really
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: was that really a big deal as everyone was trying
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: to make it out about because and it wasn't to
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: be a big deal because Salvi responded by sending out
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: the tweet he said, was he just angry because I
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: said yesterday that Madge handled it right. He at least
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: told him the night before he didn't tell him the
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: day off, so it wasn't like Salvi went home I
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: was thinking I'm gonna play.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna play.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: He told him the night before, Hey, I'm gonna give
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: you a day So was this that big of a
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: deal or did we just blow it out as proportion
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: as media members?
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: So the way that this all went down, I'm glad
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: you asked this question. We talked to Matt Quatrell every
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: day before before games. He was saying how Salvi was
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: gonna have a day off because as a catcher, it's
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: hard to catch one hundred and sixty two games. Ajau
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: noted very well, so normally he has Salve has days off.
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: It was a day game after night game, and Q
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: was just trying to provide color. This is his words
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: of the situation and saying, well, we're gonna give a
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: mental breather, you know, you know, give a guy ad
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: off his feed to just reset and you know, get
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: back to where it can be. Salve has been struggling
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: a little bit. There's no secret look at his numbers.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: So Salvie gets a lot of information from family and friends,
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: and he didn't initially see what Q said, but it
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: was sent to him, and then people started asking, well,
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: are you okay? Is anything going on with you mentally?
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: Et cetera, et cetera. That's where he goes into social
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: media and saying, well, I don't need a mental breather.
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: He called one of the articles fake fake, fake news,
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: basically like everything's fine with him. So then it becomes
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: this whole firestorm where we get to Salve the next
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: day and he says him and mac coultreill and J. J. Coacolta,
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: Roji and a manager talk and they're all on the
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: same page. So it was pretty much something that kind
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: of blew out of proportion because it was just the
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: lines of communication were kind of misconstrued a little bit.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: That's what everyone in every party in that situation has said,
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: So taking their word for it, I guess they said
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: everything's fine moving forward, but it wasn't a good look.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, But is it also kind of the precipice of
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: the fact that Carter Jensen's there, Carter Jensen's young, and
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: Salvey only has a team option after this year. I'll
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: get it, we're only in April, but those thoughts have
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: to be at least running through their head because you
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: see the future. You see the future in left handed
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: hitting catcher who's athletic and young and has.
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: Power exactly and Lacarter Jensen, he's a guy where he
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: is going to be the world's future. He's leading the
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: team and RBIs and home runs and he's been of
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: all the offensive hitters, the guy that really stands out
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: the most as he's not really been phased by a
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: bad April, a bad stretch of games. We all knew
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: he could hit. They really love his ability to have
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: play coverage, plate discipline and things of that nature. But
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: the issue is you also have salved Or Perez, who
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: is your team captain, your catcher. He's gonna garner so
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: many of those at bats, So now you're either using
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: both of them as a designate hitter or a catcher
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: whoever is behind it plate that day. And we all know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: like I said earlier, five the time is undefeated, it's
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: gonna come a point where eventually car is gonna have
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: to take that mantle away from Salad or Perez. I
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: don't know how soon that might be. It might be
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: later this season, it might be going into next year.
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: But Carter It says that Salve is his hero. He's
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: a case, a Kansas City native. He's grew up watching him.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: He loves Salves a great mentor, so there's no ill
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: will on either side. They have a great relationship. It's
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: just the fact that when you're going through a tough
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: streak like the worlds are going to right now, where
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: the team is slumping and they're not winning games, everything
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: gets mad and because it's getting to magnified, that's why
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: you're hear hearing Salvey being upset about the comment of
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: a mental breathe. You're hearing stories about the fans booing
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: at home and can you really can't excuse Carter Jensen
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: as well for oversleeping, but he's a rookie. That happens
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: rookie mistakes. We've all overslept before. It's just a lot
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: is going on outside the noise, right, So as a team,
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: the russ have to come together and really just win
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: games and everything will be quiet.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: That was my point.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: You know what the royal should do, have everyone oversleep,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: because then then get hot like Carter Jensen did after
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: he overslept.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: So that's it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Forget the espresso, forget everything else. Just tell everyone don't
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: wake up until one o'clock and then show for a
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: two o'clock game.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Whammy.
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what, They've tried everything that might be
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: something you might need to do.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: They ain't tried that. I bet they ain't trying that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: I would not be able to sleep the night before
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: if everyone was like, hey, we're showing up an hour
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: before the game, I couldn't. I couldn't do it. Has
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: there been any other instances? I know, no more sleeping in,
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: But with Carter Jensen's youthful mistakes that you've noticed being
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: around the team every day.
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: No, he is, he's a guy eric Where he is?
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: I actually wrote a story. It's funny story. I wrote
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: a story about his work ethic and everything. Like this
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: off season he was working with the hitting coaches. He
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: would call in texts like I'm coming to the field.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: I want to be able to improve my game. So
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: the day that I wrote that story and it published
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: was the day that he got caught came in for oversleeping.
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: So I was like, oh man, you kind of snaked
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: me a little bit because I'm writing about how great
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: you are as a teammate. People love you, like you.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: But his work ethic is really unique. When he first
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: came up last year, he went to every picture starter
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: reliever and was like, what do you like to throw?
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: What's your where do you like to me to catch
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: the set up? I want to take some time and
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: sit with you. So they all love and they understand
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: that he made a mistake, and even his teammates they
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: even joke about it. Now. I don't know if you
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: guys notice, but they did the sleeping Steph Curry emoji
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: when he hit he got on basically a double right
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: after he was oversleeping. Jack Casveong gave him the nickname
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: the Big Snows. So they they're all taking in his stride.
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: It's a they make him making, like I guess, a
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: fun nature out of it. But they understand that, yes,
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: he made a mistake and because he made a mistake,
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: he can't do that again and he's gonna learn from it.
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: But his teammates got his back, the coaches got his back,
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: and they really are have high hopes for Carter Jensen
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: and he's proven it on the field.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: That story is the story inside the story. Jalen Thompson
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: writing an article about Carter Jensen's work ethic that's so good.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe he worked so hard he couldn't get up.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Up all night, studying up all nights. Right, that's the
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: ways you can spend the times.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: It just works perfectly, and sometimes it just works so terribly.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: But that's fun, right, You got to laugh it off,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: like we're not doing brain science, we're talking sports. So
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: did you get a good laugh out of that when
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the timing was so ironic?
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: Yes, I did. It was it was like in the press,
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: boss Eer was like, man, you just wrote this story
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: about this guy and then he's going to oversleep. It was.
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: It was pretty funny. But I even went up to
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: him and like I told him, like, I appreciate you
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: standing up for that and answering those questions that we
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: had after that happened, because he didn't have to really
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: do that, Like I mean, as a young player, he
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: could just own the mistake and never said anything to
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: the media. But he did. He stood up. He was upright,
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: and that gave a lot of respect, you know that
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: he was able to do that, and I think a
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: lot of his teammates saw that and gave him respect too.
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: But yeah, just writing that story, I was like, man,
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: if he would have just waited a couple more days.
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: I have to be in the clear. But you know,
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: it is what it is.
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: I love it. I love it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: That's all right.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: It's like now, it's like when I come to Kansas City,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: I see Jaalen. I'm doing a Royals game. He big
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: leagues me.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: So at least Carlo Jensen didn't do that to you, Jim.
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: Ay j don't dude, man, you know that's not me.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: I give you all that.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I gotta imagine. I mean, Jalen, you've got a great smile.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Like you see Jalen at the park. It's it's a
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: big it's a big hug.
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: Hello.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: But can I ask a quick question Carlos and Stevens.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: He's on the I l with a broken, bruised foot
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: broke what was it? Was a game in Atlanta, obviously,
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: but was it a foot?
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it was a it was a bone contusing,
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: it was a bruise. Basically, he got hit in his
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: in his leg, his foot areas ankle right, and he
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: he still working his way back. He was dealing with
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: I think he got like sick for a little bit.
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: So he had to overcome like a sickness and now
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: he's back throwing he's in the clubhouse, he's walking around.
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: Everything seems to be fine. The roles just had to
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: get him back to pitching. Even before he got hit
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: with the line drive off the foot, his velocity was
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: really down between ninety and ninety two for hours fastball.
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: It just didn't look like Carlos the Stevez that we
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: all know. So for him, it's just a matter of
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: getting back in games, getting healthy again, and having that
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: velocity tick back up. Because if Carlos the Stevens can
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: be back to being the closer that he was when
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: he led the league in saves last year with forty
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: two and being an All Star, that might help the
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: bullpen kind of get everyone back into their designated roles
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: because right now, if you look at how the roles play,
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: if the starters are not going seven innings, which they
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: have been doing, there is a gap between the starters
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: and then the rest of the game. And if you're
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: not going to Lucas erseg or Matt Strong, who do
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: you go to. Everyone else in that bullpen has not
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: been good, and that's just putting it lightly and they
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: have to be better. So maybe getting the healthy Carlos
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: Estebus will help fix that he's been out.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: For a while now.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: He only made the one appearance with you know back
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: in late March, so yeah, he's got to figure it
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: out with I agree with you. I don't know if
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: a bruised foot is going to hold you out for
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: six to eight weeks. So I never want to accuse
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: anyone of fans of my l that doesn't exist in baseball.
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: Never.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I was never on it, You were never on it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: But we love Carlos. Dude, get your vlow back at
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: your stuff up and.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Then get to him and Hamma kamak whatever they.
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: Do exactly the celebration.
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: The dragon ball z, a.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: Whatever whatever, nerds, it is not a not a track
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: ball Z. I don't even know. We were laughing with
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Carlos about that in spring training.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: I asked him about I don't.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: Know, no, but it looks good. It's a great meme. Jalen,
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: you're the man. Thank you. Great to catch up with
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: you and we'll see you soon.
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: Thank you so much, guys. Talk to you guys later.