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- 0:29what's going on everybody
- 0:30welcome to sunday sunday
- 0:33sunday night crossfit talk
- 0:36it is scott it's jamie it's
- 0:37carolyn we're all here
- 0:38tonight uh there is a whole
- 0:40bunch going on in the
- 0:42crossfit space plus we have
- 0:43a fun game tonight um but before that
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- 1:00That would be so kind.
- 1:02Now, catching up.
- 1:05How is everybody this week?
- 1:07It's the week before Thanksgiving.
- 1:09That usually means things
- 1:10are a little bit rushed.
- 1:12But you don't celebrate
- 1:13Thanksgiving like we do, Carolyn,
- 1:15because you're in Canada.
- 1:17Ours is just in October.
- 1:20okay so yours is over yeah
- 1:22ours is yeah ours is over
- 1:23and ours is also on a
- 1:24monday yours is a thursday
- 1:27and yours is basically a
- 1:28week long everyone gets off
- 1:30work a lot of times like I
- 1:32only get thursday off and
- 1:34it stinks so I have to go
- 1:36back to work on friday okay
- 1:38which is yeah you have to
- 1:42go back to work on friday
- 1:43Yeah,
- 1:44which like there'll be me and five
- 1:45other people.
- 1:46Yeah, that's terrible.
- 1:48The volume will be very low.
- 1:51Yeah,
- 1:51I feel like most we mostly here in the US,
- 1:54most people have Friday off
- 1:55because it's Black Friday
- 1:56shopping like that.
- 1:58I mean, unless you're in retail,
- 1:59you're off and then you're shopping.
- 2:01The state government,
- 2:03we've got to work for those
- 2:04the taxpayers.
- 2:06They we can't get a free day off.
- 2:09Fair enough.
- 2:10Yeah.
- 2:10Lucas has Wednesday, Thursday,
- 2:12Friday off school.
- 2:13So just has to go to school Monday,
- 2:15Tuesday.
- 2:18When I was a kid, we had Wednesday,
- 2:19Thursday, Friday, Monday.
- 2:21Whoa.
- 2:22Cause Monday used to be the
- 2:23first day of buck season in Pennsylvania.
- 2:27If they tried to hold school,
- 2:28there'd be like three people there.
- 2:29Yes.
- 2:31So.
- 2:33I but they've changed all
- 2:35that around since I've left
- 2:37so I don't even know
- 2:38anything about that anymore
- 2:42but I did see some um some
- 2:46fun new stuff uh caitlyn
- 2:48clark is part of the
- 2:50ownership group that's
- 2:51trying to bring soccer to
- 2:52cincinnati for the women
- 2:54did see that yeah
- 2:56So she is really getting
- 2:57ingrained into this
- 2:58tri-state area of Indianapolis, Columbus,
- 3:01Cincinnati, that little triangle.
- 3:05It's nice to see that she's
- 3:07in a position already in
- 3:08her career to be able to
- 3:11dive into some investment
- 3:14stuff for other female sports.
- 3:17So that's cool.
- 3:19Yeah.
- 3:21So that's cool.
- 3:21It's super exciting.
- 3:22I know Andrew Sten is like a major, um, uh,
- 3:25Cincinnati FC fan.
- 3:27So I'm curious to know what
- 3:29he thinks of all that.
- 3:31Um, oh, there's mama Switzer.
- 3:32I still get Monday off.
- 3:34Nice.
- 3:37So there we are.
- 3:39Um, I was, uh, watching football today.
- 3:41Of course.
- 3:43Um,
- 3:43I was talking to Lex briefly and she
- 3:46said her forty niners and
- 3:47just sent me poop emojis.
- 3:52She's not having a good day,
- 3:55and they have nobody left
- 3:56on their roster.
- 3:57They're hurt, so hurt.
- 4:00It's not even the same team
- 4:01as last year at this point.
- 4:02It's just not comparable.
- 4:05The Lions kept rolling and rolling.
- 4:09It didn't look great, though,
- 4:11if I'm being completely honest.
- 4:13I had that game on my second TV.
- 4:16I thought the Colts looked good,
- 4:17but they just couldn't get
- 4:18it in the end zone.
- 4:20When they would get down to the red zone,
- 4:21they couldn't score.
- 4:23Like they would take it down the field.
- 4:24Great.
- 4:25And then, and we just got lucky.
- 4:27I feel like it was.
- 4:30And the bears don't know what luck is,
- 4:32man.
- 4:33I was ruined for you.
- 4:36Oh, thanks, John Young.
- 4:38I forgot he's a Vikings fan.
- 4:40And just like the past few weeks,
- 4:43the Bears do just enough to
- 4:46get me back in the game,
- 4:48the sliver of hope,
- 4:50just to snatch it away at the end.
- 4:54I mean,
- 4:54the first team to actually do this
- 4:56successful onside kick.
- 4:58Yeah,
- 4:58the first team to get an onside kick
- 5:00this year.
- 5:01There's my hope.
- 5:03And then they score the
- 5:04field goal to tie the game.
- 5:05And then they come out and
- 5:06just Lex's poop emoji, their first series,
- 5:10total poop emoji,
- 5:12and then have to punt to
- 5:14the Vikings and couldn't stop them.
- 5:17Oh, I'm so mad.
- 5:18Yeah.
- 5:20But such is life.
- 5:23I think this is just going
- 5:23to be the story of my
- 5:24Sundays the rest of the year.
- 5:28Well, let's hope.
- 5:28I mean, for my sake next week.
- 5:32Well, that's a Thursday.
- 5:33I know.
- 5:34Who do the Lions play next Thursday?
- 5:38All the Bears.
- 5:40On our Thanksgiving holiday.
- 5:41Thanksgiving.
- 5:42That's a big one.
- 5:45I didn't watch any football
- 5:47today except for when I got,
- 5:48so I redid my level two this weekend.
- 5:51And when I got home,
- 5:53I saw the score of the
- 5:55Niners game when I think
- 5:57they were in the fourth quarter.
- 5:57And I was like, nope, switch that.
- 5:59And then the reps ahead was starting.
- 6:01And I was like, perfect.
- 6:03Yeah.
- 6:04So where do we want to start tonight?
- 6:06Because there's a lot to talk about.
- 6:08There's a lot.
- 6:10I guess you want to start
- 6:11with the CrossFit season.
- 6:14Okay.
- 6:15So I'm sure everybody has seen it.
- 6:17I will tell you that I have
- 6:20not been able to watch other shows.
- 6:21I watched a little bit of Spin yesterday.
- 6:24Um, but honestly I fell asleep.
- 6:27I was, I was,
- 6:29I was watching it getting
- 6:30ready for bed and I just was exhausted.
- 6:32And so I read through it
- 6:34very vigorously and I think I got it.
- 6:38Um, so what we have learned is, um, the,
- 6:43the new season will have a
- 6:44three week open, just like it always has.
- 6:49Um, and I'm going to,
- 6:51I'm going to pull this up from my notes.
- 6:52Pretty much the same time as normal.
- 6:56Yeah.
- 6:56Not much change there.
- 6:58So I'm going to blow this up.
- 7:01This kind of talks about all
- 7:02the different divisions.
- 7:05If you haven't seen this already,
- 7:06this is on the press
- 7:10release that came out from CrossFit.
- 7:11Can you turn that down a little?
- 7:15The open is from February
- 7:16twenty seventh to March seventeenth.
- 7:19Um, then from there,
- 7:21no more quarterfinals.
- 7:25You're going straight to an
- 7:27in affiliate semifinal and
- 7:30they use the word affiliate, not online.
- 7:34So I'm assuming this is a,
- 7:36an effort to push
- 7:38everything back to the affiliates, right?
- 7:41This was announced first at
- 7:43an affiliate gathering.
- 7:46And the feedback I've seen
- 7:48from affiliate owners has
- 7:50been very positive that
- 7:51they're doing this.
- 7:52Okay.
- 7:57So the in-affiliate
- 7:57semifinal is April twenty
- 7:59fourth through April twenty seventh.
- 8:02That is four days for individuals.
- 8:06I'm sorry.
- 8:08That's for teams.
- 8:09It's May first through four
- 8:11days for individuals.
- 8:14And that's a little bit
- 8:16shorter than it's been the
- 8:18last couple of weeks, at least last year.
- 8:20Remember last year was like forever,
- 8:22like six days or?
- 8:25Yeah.
- 8:28Was it Wednesday through Monday?
- 8:31Yeah, it was a lot last year.
- 8:32Everybody was saying it was way too much.
- 8:35it was like a day or yeah
- 8:37for four workouts or
- 8:38whatever and you had like
- 8:39six days it felt like a
- 8:41long time so this year it's
- 8:43may first to may fourth and
- 8:45then for individuals you
- 8:47also have the option uh to
- 8:49do an in-person qualifying
- 8:51event um people are calling
- 8:53them sanctionals um and
- 8:56that can run anywhere from
- 8:57april through june which is weird
- 9:02That I'm just curious,
- 9:03like what the qualifying
- 9:05process looks like for those?
- 9:06Are they using the semi,
- 9:08like the certain amount of
- 9:10semifinal athletes,
- 9:11like wherever their placement is?
- 9:13And let's say,
- 9:14is there a maximum that
- 9:15people can compete in?
- 9:17Like, is it three?
- 9:19And then how do they figure
- 9:20out who they're inviting?
- 9:22Do they just go down the
- 9:23list from one all the way?
- 9:25So if you read the full document,
- 9:26there is no maximum that
- 9:28you can compete in.
- 9:31If it's physically possible,
- 9:33you could compete in every single one.
- 9:36But you're saying that just
- 9:38because you're in the... Is
- 9:41it top-thirty get to compete in any?
- 9:43Top-one-thousand?
- 9:44Do you know what I mean?
- 9:46Making it in the one percent
- 9:48in previous years, I don't know,
- 9:49for the females,
- 9:50it might be a thousand
- 9:51people making it to the next round.
- 9:53Let's call it maximum fifteen hundred.
- 9:56I don't think we'll have as many sign-ups,
- 9:59but
- 10:01like,
- 10:01is it the top one hundred get these ones?
- 10:05And then it's just how how
- 10:08that qualifying process
- 10:09will work is just interesting to me.
- 10:13So reading the document,
- 10:14it is the top one percent
- 10:15move to semis and they
- 10:17compete from there.
- 10:20They are taking the top
- 10:22anywhere from fifteen to
- 10:24twenty to the games.
- 10:27And I don't like that they
- 10:28don't even know a number.
- 10:29Like, oh,
- 10:30we're going to be doing – maybe
- 10:32we're doing fifteen.
- 10:33Maybe we're doing twenty.
- 10:35Who knows?
- 10:36Because I lost my spot the
- 10:37one year at the games.
- 10:39I thought I was in in twenty-twenty,
- 10:40and then I lost it.
- 10:41If you have those rules, just – Well,
- 10:47I don't think they know
- 10:48what the in-person events are.
- 10:50Right.
- 10:50I think that's exactly right.
- 10:51And the events qualify
- 10:52either one or two people
- 10:53depending on the strength of the field.
- 10:56Yeah.
- 10:57And how many even agree to
- 11:00I mean,
- 11:00because it sounds like you have to
- 11:02have done the Open to, like,
- 11:04you can't just go sign up for,
- 11:06let's pretend Wadapalooza is one,
- 11:08which it isn't, obviously,
- 11:10because it's not in April to whatever.
- 11:12But pretend Wadapalooza is one.
- 11:15And this is where I feel
- 11:16like a lot of these
- 11:18competitions won't want to participate.
- 11:21If you have to use the Open
- 11:24as your qualifier,
- 11:26some of these comps use a
- 11:28big qualifier to make their money.
- 11:31So if they're getting rid of
- 11:33their opportunity to do a
- 11:35qualifier because it's off
- 11:37of the open placement,
- 11:41now maybe they can still do
- 11:42a qualifier for their,
- 11:43maybe it's a big enough,
- 11:44decent size enough comp
- 11:45that there's an RX category and teams.
- 11:48And so they'll have like an
- 11:49online qualifier,
- 11:50make a little bit of money,
- 11:51but their elites are chosen
- 11:53out of the open.
- 11:55I guess I can see where it
- 11:56would work a little bit, but.
- 11:58I mean, yeah, Carolyn's right.
- 12:00Do you have to be in the top
- 12:01one percent to even apply?
- 12:04It's just confusing, right?
- 12:07I get there's a lack of information,
- 12:09but...
- 12:12Because these, let's call them sanctionals,
- 12:15sanctional events,
- 12:18they need to make their money somehow.
- 12:20It's just like,
- 12:21how many invites are they going to give?
- 12:23And then maybe the rest is
- 12:25through an online portion.
- 12:27If you're a semifinal
- 12:28athlete looking to do a particular one,
- 12:30but there's people ahead of
- 12:31you that are already in those, let's say,
- 12:33five spots or invite or ten spots,
- 12:36and you still want to do that,
- 12:37you've got to do an extra
- 12:38qualifier before.
- 12:39There's just so many...
- 12:41It's just messy.
- 12:42It's very messy.
- 12:45But I think that this is par
- 12:47for the course.
- 12:49This is where we've been for years.
- 12:50Every year,
- 12:51there's something new to make it messy.
- 12:55And while I like sanctionals
- 12:56because it gave us
- 12:57something to talk about every week almost,
- 13:00I hated the messiness of
- 13:01who got to the games.
- 13:02Mm-hmm.
- 13:04Well,
- 13:04because this person already qualified,
- 13:05we can move to number two.
- 13:07Wait, they're already qualified.
- 13:08We're moving to number three.
- 13:10It just got, it gets really messy.
- 13:15And when, when COVID hit and everybody,
- 13:19they,
- 13:19they pulled things back and people
- 13:21lost spots they were given.
- 13:22And that was crap too.
- 13:25Right.
- 13:27But it's like,
- 13:29I think I remember during
- 13:30that period of time,
- 13:32and maybe you guys can
- 13:32correct me if I'm wrong,
- 13:34you would do the open,
- 13:34but let's say I wanted to
- 13:35do the Brazil CrossFit
- 13:39Championship at that point.
- 13:41I think during the open,
- 13:42I also paid a certain
- 13:43amount to the Brazil
- 13:45CrossFit Championship.
- 13:47And I would have to post my
- 13:48score on the open and on
- 13:51their website to be like,
- 13:52I'm looking to use this as a qualifier.
- 13:54So you're almost like paying twice.
- 13:57But then your name is already on that.
- 13:58And it's like, you chose that one.
- 14:00You can't just like further down the road,
- 14:03be like, Oh, can I get an invite there?
- 14:05It's like, Oh,
- 14:05well you didn't pay for it at that point.
- 14:07I wonder if like anything
- 14:08like that will take place.
- 14:09If that makes sense.
- 14:10I doubt it.
- 14:12Yeah.
- 14:12I think until those are identified, we're,
- 14:15we're flying blind.
- 14:20Yeah.
- 14:20So let's get through some of
- 14:21the nuts and bolts real quick.
- 14:22And then we'll talk about
- 14:23the overarching concerns.
- 14:25And that is now when you do
- 14:27your in an affiliate semifinal,
- 14:30you must have an L one
- 14:31judge and the judge must
- 14:34take the advanced judges course.
- 14:36In addition to the judges
- 14:38course that already existed,
- 14:40but that judges course now
- 14:41lasts for three years.
- 14:42Yeah, I do like that.
- 14:43I think that's good.
- 14:45I do.
- 14:45I like that too.
- 14:48The sanctionals will send a minimum of ten,
- 14:51maximum of fifteen spots to the games.
- 14:54Again, we talked about that briefly.
- 14:56Several sanctional events
- 14:57and no limit to the amount
- 14:58of entries will qualify one
- 15:01or two men and women to the
- 15:03games depending on the size
- 15:04of that sanctional.
- 15:06Like that's nothing.
- 15:09When you start thinking about it,
- 15:11one to two,
- 15:12if a bunch of people just want
- 15:14to go to the same one, that's crazy.
- 15:19They're only giving thirty
- 15:20spots to the games this
- 15:21year instead of forty.
- 15:23Does it still say a minimum of thirty?
- 15:27Or does it say thirty?
- 15:28It says thirty.
- 15:29Only thirty spots will be
- 15:31given to the games.
- 15:32Where the qualifier is,
- 15:35depending on the sanctionals,
- 15:40it could be fifteen it could
- 15:41be ten so the open could be
- 15:44fifteen or twenty or maybe
- 15:50twenty-five who knows if
- 15:51they don't have enough
- 15:52sanctionals maybe they go
- 15:53twenty-five um uh lex says
- 15:59the judges course probably
- 16:00it'll cost more to last for
- 16:02three years and john young
- 16:06said it's only thirty okay
- 16:09Yeah, I don't love that.
- 16:12The decrease in spots?
- 16:13Yeah.
- 16:16The only good thing of this
- 16:20newer part is... I mean,
- 16:22it's good and bad.
- 16:22Actually, I don't know.
- 16:25Because you're going to
- 16:26get... There's no more
- 16:27regional representation.
- 16:31I still think it's important to do...
- 16:34competitions in each region
- 16:36to allow local development
- 16:39like or global development
- 16:41I should say um but you you
- 16:45may end up you're gonna get
- 16:46in my opinion better
- 16:49athletes ideally to the
- 16:51games um but you don't you
- 16:53still don't want to lose that
- 16:56global push to increase the level.
- 16:58That's why I think you can
- 16:59still do those competitions in Africa,
- 17:02for instance,
- 17:03where they have a chance to qualify,
- 17:05but then someone from North America,
- 17:07Europe,
- 17:08could still make the trip there
- 17:09and then grab that spot.
- 17:11I just think
- 17:12People are like,
- 17:14you're constantly looking
- 17:15at like the history of the
- 17:16top forty and you're like,
- 17:18there's always ten people
- 17:19who don't matter.
- 17:19Well,
- 17:20that's because of the way you
- 17:21qualified people in.
- 17:22And so it didn't matter if
- 17:23you would do this and still
- 17:25allow forty and actual the
- 17:26top forty got there.
- 17:27It would actually be a
- 17:29really exciting off.
- 17:31all four heats of ten I I
- 17:33mean I I just I hate that
- 17:35you're just dropping it off
- 17:36because the bottom ten
- 17:36don't matter we haven't
- 17:38given it a shot where the
- 17:40actual top forty made it to
- 17:41see and then decide like
- 17:43yeah we really don't need forty there
- 17:47Yeah,
- 17:48I think they're taking away the region.
- 17:50And even more than just, you know,
- 17:54Africa getting a
- 17:54representative and Asia
- 17:55getting two representatives or whatever.
- 17:59What it also does is the
- 18:00stacked regions like North
- 18:03America East will get the
- 18:05right number of people in
- 18:06because they qualified to get in.
- 18:09Through an online competition.
- 18:11Most of them or Europe or
- 18:14Europe dominates like they did last year.
- 18:16And depending on the
- 18:17workouts and like how many
- 18:19workouts will be on the
- 18:20online portion and what is
- 18:21the equipment that's going
- 18:22to be released that these
- 18:23athletes are going to need?
- 18:24Is the echo bike going to
- 18:25make an appearance?
- 18:27Are, are,
- 18:28you know, certain equipment that you're,
- 18:29you traditional
- 18:30traditionally see in
- 18:33quarterfinals and other, you know,
- 18:35the open,
- 18:37like if you're only inviting the
- 18:38top one percent, I'm assuming they,
- 18:40they would assume that they
- 18:42have access to more
- 18:45equipment than you can
- 18:46normally do online.
- 18:47But then you also have to
- 18:48think about representation
- 18:49and not everyone has an
- 18:50echo bike in South America or, you know,
- 18:54something, but it'll just be interesting.
- 18:57Yeah, so moving on, uh,
- 18:59thirty or twenty teams will get in, uh,
- 19:02instead of,
- 19:02I think it was thirty-some last year.
- 19:04Uh, twenty teams,
- 19:06only one team per affiliate, uh,
- 19:09which is a big change.
- 19:10That means Invictus only gets one,
- 19:13Oslo only gets one, um,
- 19:15and I was reminded that
- 19:16there was really only one
- 19:17from Cookville Mayhem last year.
- 19:20Is the Barn different than...
- 19:24I don't know.
- 19:24I think the other ones were
- 19:25actually in other parts of the world.
- 19:28They just use the name.
- 19:30Right.
- 19:30Well, yeah.
- 19:31The Latin America team or whatever.
- 19:34I guess they're still South America.
- 19:37I don't know how that works, but yeah,
- 19:39I don't, I don't think that matters.
- 19:41Like, yeah.
- 19:45One from per affiliate is totally fine.
- 19:47You're going to pick your
- 19:48top four best people to
- 19:49represent your affiliate.
- 19:51And that's all you really
- 19:52need there anyway.
- 19:55Age group and adaptive will
- 19:56still be hosted by Legends, Pit,
- 19:58and Wheelwod.
- 20:01Age groups top two percent
- 20:04move on to the semi instead
- 20:05of one or a minimum of two hundred.
- 20:08Which is a factor in the
- 20:10sixty plus and sixty five plus.
- 20:12No number given for game spots.
- 20:15I know.
- 20:16Are we assuming it's the
- 20:17same as last year?
- 20:19Cause it's run by the same people.
- 20:21I don't know.
- 20:22I hope they shrink it a little.
- 20:23I kind of hope they shrink it.
- 20:24I kind of hope that they're
- 20:26in talks like pit and legends are,
- 20:28I highly doubt this is happening,
- 20:30but I hope they're in talks
- 20:32to find a venue together
- 20:34and combine it and have
- 20:36like your normal or whatever,
- 20:38figure out the heat size.
- 20:40That makes sense.
- 20:41Um,
- 20:44Yeah,
- 20:44they they need to fix that because
- 20:47even separate weekends
- 20:49isn't great for traveling and.
- 20:52getting these people to different events.
- 20:55Like they need to be in one unit.
- 20:57And what's so difficult
- 20:59about watching the age
- 21:01group is that there are so
- 21:02many age group and to go
- 21:04through the same damn workout is so long.
- 21:09It's long on us, the viewers,
- 21:10it's long on the commentators.
- 21:14Um,
- 21:14like there's just so many divisions
- 21:16doing the exact same thing.
- 21:17It's, it's, it's a lot.
- 21:19Yeah.
- 21:20I will say that is the one
- 21:22good thing about separating
- 21:24masters and teens is it
- 21:25sort of breaks that down a little bit.
- 21:27Um, but I just think for,
- 21:31for the sport to grow,
- 21:33like families need to be
- 21:34going to those competitions
- 21:35together and adults seeing
- 21:38the kids and the kids seeing the adults.
- 21:39And yeah, I,
- 21:42My thing,
- 21:43I actually hated at first the
- 21:45three floors at Legends,
- 21:48but it actually turned out
- 21:49to be a good thing because
- 21:50people could bounce from
- 21:52one event to another
- 21:53throughout the day and not
- 21:55have to watch the same event all day.
- 21:59So that actually made that kind of cool.
- 22:03But I digress.
- 22:06Season goes open and affiliate.
- 22:07We already talked about that.
- 22:10Additionally,
- 22:10there'll be a pairs
- 22:11competition that will
- 22:13happen after the season,
- 22:16but it's based on open performance.
- 22:18Yeah.
- 22:22basically your um your level
- 22:25so like your pair is
- 22:26competing against another
- 22:28pair of like similar level
- 22:30and I mean that that idea
- 22:33is just to generate more
- 22:34money for them really it's
- 22:35just uh that's their
- 22:37quarter final because it's
- 22:38right like it's basically
- 22:39right after um the open
- 22:47No, the Pairs is at MFC.
- 22:49It's October.
- 22:51That's the finals, right?
- 22:57Yeah.
- 22:57But it's additional money.
- 23:00No,
- 23:00you would just sign up for... I think
- 23:02you're thinking the Community Cup.
- 23:04Yeah,
- 23:04the Community Cup is... It's
- 23:05different than Pairs.
- 23:08Yeah, the Pairs is... You can take...
- 23:12you can take one.
- 23:14We don't even know if it's same sex.
- 23:16I'm actually guessing
- 23:17they're going to have all of the above.
- 23:20You can pair up with someone
- 23:21based on your open
- 23:22performance and then wherever you fit,
- 23:24you will be moved.
- 23:26You have the opportunity to
- 23:27go compete for like a
- 23:29championship at masters
- 23:31fitness collective
- 23:33championship championship.
- 23:34I know it's,
- 23:36they changed their name in October.
- 23:39So that can be done there as well.
- 23:42and it kind of alludes to
- 23:43like things that were
- 23:44talked about before the
- 23:45games this year where, uh,
- 23:47Dave was thinking about
- 23:47moving a teams type thing
- 23:49after the games.
- 23:50And I think this is it with
- 23:51pairs instead of, um, instead of, uh,
- 23:59like a four person team or
- 24:00six person team.
- 24:01Like we knew it.
- 24:03Right.
- 24:05Um,
- 24:07And then the Community Cup
- 24:08is new in twenty twenty five.
- 24:09All athletes compete in the
- 24:10open and submit scores for
- 24:12all workouts will be able
- 24:13to continue their season in
- 24:14their affiliate with a new
- 24:15competition called the Community Cup.
- 24:18It will be a unique format
- 24:19for local athletes to
- 24:20compete against their peers
- 24:21based on their level earned
- 24:23during the open.
- 24:25I feel like this is just
- 24:26basically taking the
- 24:28quarterfinals and moving it
- 24:29to this part of the season.
- 24:33Except for it's not the top
- 24:35twenty five percent.
- 24:36It's everybody.
- 24:38Yeah,
- 24:38but how many people are going to I mean,
- 24:40I guess it gives everyone a shot.
- 24:41But then you feel like level one, baby.
- 24:45There you go.
- 24:49Yeah, I don't know.
- 24:52It's for money.
- 24:55Yeah, I mean, so was quarterfinals.
- 24:58And there's a lot... I've
- 24:59seen a lot of commentary,
- 25:02like people posting that
- 25:05they're sad about this change,
- 25:07that they were basically like...
- 25:11percentile last year or or
- 25:13twenty six or whatever but
- 25:14like they were they were
- 25:15excited to do better this
- 25:16year and make it into
- 25:17quarterfinals and they feel
- 25:18a little bummed that that
- 25:19got taken away from them so
- 25:22hopefully I mean hopefully
- 25:23those people sign up and
- 25:26take part in this community cup like
- 25:29I think that's why, like, it's there,
- 25:31right?
- 25:31Because it's like there's some people,
- 25:33even beginners, right, that do the open,
- 25:36get hooked,
- 25:38and they're looking for something else.
- 25:40And all of a sudden now they
- 25:41do this competition with
- 25:43people at their own level
- 25:44and they get to continue a little bit.
- 25:47And it's something for them to do.
- 25:49Mm-hmm.
- 25:53Um, Larry young says, well,
- 25:55this is a first for me,
- 25:56but I'm not mad at it.
- 25:57More people would be nice,
- 25:59but it did fix a lot of
- 26:00problems like weak regions, big gyms,
- 26:03dominating teams.
- 26:04I just wonder about the open programming.
- 26:08I think a lot of people do.
- 26:10If you're going straight
- 26:10from the open to finals,
- 26:12like it's gotta be different programming.
- 26:19From the open to what?
- 26:20To the semifinals?
- 26:22I mean,
- 26:23one percent to me is still quite a bit.
- 26:25I don't know.
- 26:28A thousand something,
- 26:30you're not missing any of
- 26:31the games athletes that are worthy there.
- 26:35Unless someone was injured, very sick,
- 26:37and just did the bare
- 26:38minimum at a workout...
- 26:40the top athletes should be
- 26:42in the top one hundred or
- 26:44one percent to make it on
- 26:46with three workouts with
- 26:47four workouts I I believe
- 26:49that I agree I I don't I I
- 26:53think if you would have
- 26:53looked at the top one
- 26:54percent from last year's
- 26:55open you would have been
- 26:57fine with who moved on uh
- 27:02dryer dagger says I am
- 27:03probably going to win the
- 27:04crossfit games now I'm happy for you man
- 27:09Uh, I'm going for the level one champ.
- 27:12Uh,
- 27:12Denise Moore is I'm super happy that
- 27:14quarters are going away for the masters.
- 27:16We just had way too many
- 27:18online qualifiers last year.
- 27:20Yeah.
- 27:21I know following it was a lot,
- 27:23so I can't even imagine
- 27:24doing it that many, that many times.
- 27:28Well, for the teams as well as one point,
- 27:32it was like,
- 27:33fifty percent of the teams
- 27:35moved on or something.
- 27:36It was like,
- 27:37there was barely any cuts at some point.
- 27:38And I was like, okay, just cut that part.
- 27:42And yet,
- 27:43Jamie's team got cut because... I know.
- 27:47We were literally like... Sorry, Jamie.
- 27:50I mean, in the West region,
- 27:51it was like all you had to
- 27:53be was like the top eighty
- 27:54percentile and you moved on.
- 27:56It was a little bit tougher
- 27:57in the East region,
- 27:58but I think I take my comment back.
- 28:01I feel bad now.
- 28:04Not everyone made it through.
- 28:08The East region is a tough region.
- 28:09If it's going to be a region,
- 28:10you're not going to make it.
- 28:11It's it's ours.
- 28:16Larry actually says some
- 28:17people made it to quarters,
- 28:18couldn't do all the movements.
- 28:20That has happened at semis.
- 28:21We've had live in-person
- 28:23semis where people have
- 28:24made it and couldn't do all the moves.
- 28:26But that's making sure that
- 28:27there's a continuum in the
- 28:29programming and that
- 28:30whatever you're programming
- 28:31in the open is actually
- 28:33weeding out the people that
- 28:34won't be able to do the next part of
- 28:37the qualifiers right like if
- 28:39there's no connection
- 28:41between the open and the
- 28:43next phase and it's just
- 28:45like brand new workouts
- 28:47like it you're gonna get
- 28:49people that they get stuck
- 28:52one thing that that we
- 28:53didn't really go into a
- 28:54whole lot is part of the
- 28:56the solution to that is the
- 28:58new requirements for a
- 28:59judge and you have to post
- 29:02your videos online
- 29:04And they get judged by all
- 29:06the qualifying people that
- 29:08have the level one and the judges course,
- 29:11and they can go online and
- 29:14review the videos.
- 29:15Finally, how long have I been saying this?
- 29:19Is this only for the top one
- 29:20percent or this work with
- 29:22every qualifying division?
- 29:25Because I don't think every
- 29:26single person that does the
- 29:27open necessarily need to do their videos.
- 29:31But it's like if you're
- 29:32looking to move on to that next phase,
- 29:35then.
- 29:36Well, I think even for the open, Scott,
- 29:38like you can't be in the
- 29:39top one percent if you
- 29:40didn't submit three videos.
- 29:43Like, I mean, I sure hope that.
- 29:46Because I think that it's
- 29:47for the in-person affiliate
- 29:50semifinals is where the
- 29:52judge requirement gets dropped.
- 29:55But I'll need to reread it.
- 29:56I read it on Friday and it's
- 29:58been two days.
- 29:59So I'll go back and check.
- 30:02You got to get people in
- 30:04that mindset out the gate.
- 30:07Like if you're doing the
- 30:09open and you're planning on
- 30:10making it straight to,
- 30:13I understand what you're saying, but,
- 30:14but we can't have a hundred
- 30:16and twenty five thousand videos.
- 30:20Not even more that like three times that.
- 30:24polluting the, and then you're,
- 30:26you're reviewing me who has
- 30:29no shot at making it,
- 30:30but who's going to review you?
- 30:31No, like that's the thing.
- 30:32How are you going to
- 30:34separate everyone that is
- 30:35around you and the,
- 30:36and the leaderboard probably reviews you.
- 30:39That's what I would think.
- 30:41Like if you're in the two thousand,
- 30:43I feel like the people
- 30:44right around you are
- 30:44looking at your video.
- 30:45If you're in the one hundred thousand,
- 30:47you don't have an L one and
- 30:48don't have the ability to do it.
- 30:51So when you submit a video and that's fine,
- 30:54I'm saying if you are
- 30:55planning on being in the
- 30:56top one percent and you
- 30:57want to move on to the in-person,
- 30:58you better have submitted a video.
- 31:01If you didn't and you're you
- 31:04finished fiftieth in the open.
- 31:05Sorry.
- 31:06Where's your videos?
- 31:07No,
- 31:08you actually get to win the workout
- 31:10worldwide.
- 31:13And we get to give you two
- 31:14thousand twenty four dollars.
- 31:16That's how we prevent that happening.
- 31:18Don't worry about it.
- 31:18Again.
- 31:19Oh, that's how we prevent that happening.
- 31:20You did that workout?
- 31:21Oh, okay.
- 31:22We believe you.
- 31:24Here's the worldwide win.
- 31:27I think they've removed that this year.
- 31:30Hopefully.
- 31:30Hopefully.
- 31:31So everyone posts their video.
- 31:33Like everyone can see it,
- 31:34but only people with level
- 31:36one in the advanced course
- 31:37could judge on it.
- 31:38Is that what we're getting at?
- 31:39It's like I could see other videos.
- 31:42Yeah.
- 31:42I obviously have that certification,
- 31:44so I could technically judge.
- 31:46So this was this used to be
- 31:48the case back in like.
- 31:51Fifteen or sixteen, seventeen,
- 31:52somewhere there.
- 31:53Been the case where and then
- 31:55if you took the judge's course,
- 31:57you actually had the
- 31:59ability to to actually put a score.
- 32:02Yep.
- 32:03Right.
- 32:03Not everybody has that ability.
- 32:05You have to take the judge's course.
- 32:07Correct.
- 32:07You go through a certain
- 32:08portal to be able to do that.
- 32:10Do you think that when you judge a video,
- 32:13do you think that when you judge a video?
- 32:15your name should come on it
- 32:18or you should be able to
- 32:19judge anonymously.
- 32:22Um, I think, I don't,
- 32:23I think your name should go on there.
- 32:26I think so too.
- 32:27I don't have a problem either way.
- 32:29Um,
- 32:29cause people can go on and they're like,
- 32:33you know, they're your competition.
- 32:34They have their level one,
- 32:34they have their judges
- 32:35course and they're getting all like, no,
- 32:37like, you know what I mean?
- 32:38Like, I think that you should be able to,
- 32:40if, if you're going to judge,
- 32:42you also put your name behind it.
- 32:43And you're like, yeah,
- 32:44I'm calling you up for this.
- 32:47I don't have a problem with that.
- 32:48I don't either.
- 32:50I think it would prevent
- 32:51some people from from doing that, though,
- 32:53because they're like.
- 32:54I don't know, maybe I'm just thinking.
- 32:59I think the other.
- 33:02I don't know,
- 33:03maybe we're getting too much in the weeds,
- 33:05but.
- 33:07Vi actually says,
- 33:08I think people would be
- 33:09petty and vindictive if it was anonymous.
- 33:12But I don't think one vote should matter.
- 33:15I don't think it will.
- 33:17It's going to be like this
- 33:18person got one no vote and thirteen yeses,
- 33:22then they're probably going
- 33:23to pass the video.
- 33:25Right.
- 33:26If it has thirteen no's and one yes,
- 33:30then my guess is it used to be this way.
- 33:33Then they took a closer look.
- 33:35yeah that's yeah that's
- 33:35exactly how it was yeah yep
- 33:41so I I you could be
- 33:43vindictive but I don't
- 33:44think it's going to carry
- 33:45much weight unless there's
- 33:47a bunch of other votes in
- 33:49your direction so and
- 33:54honestly and even if like so say like
- 33:58Two hundred athletes go on
- 33:59and a hundred people hate
- 34:01Taylor self and they
- 34:03downvote his video and it's
- 34:06and it's fifty fifty.
- 34:08It's going to trigger
- 34:09somebody at HQ to look at
- 34:10that video because it's a
- 34:12questionable video.
- 34:13It's got a lot of votes on it.
- 34:14And I would think they're
- 34:15objectionable there and can see.
- 34:18Yes.
- 34:19Yes.
- 34:19This was good movement.
- 34:21And yes.
- 34:22I mean, it's fine.
- 34:23If enough people vote on a video,
- 34:24it should trigger it to get regardless.
- 34:26But like the opposite too,
- 34:27like you can get your friends to vote.
- 34:29Good, good.
- 34:29Like that's why,
- 34:30that's why I think there
- 34:31should be a name behind it.
- 34:32So it's not just like, Oh, who voted?
- 34:33Yes.
- 34:34Your affiliate, your girlfriend,
- 34:35your best friend, you know,
- 34:38you start looking.
- 34:40I think I'm just happy about
- 34:41the baby step that we're back to.
- 34:43I think that's a great step forward.
- 34:44And I think,
- 34:45I think those requirements are good.
- 34:49I'm so excited to be able to
- 34:50review people's videos I'm
- 34:52curious what that advanced
- 34:54judges course will look
- 34:56like and if they're
- 34:57actually showing gray reps
- 35:00and not just because I find
- 35:01the judges course normally
- 35:03like pretty simple and it's
- 35:05like so obvious what
- 35:07they're looking for in the
- 35:08no rep but it's like it's
- 35:11those movers that are super
- 35:12fast those are the ones that
- 35:15people need to get a good
- 35:17eye and there's a lot of
- 35:18judges out there that don't
- 35:19have that eye so it's like
- 35:20that's the type of movement
- 35:22that need to be in that
- 35:24advanced judges course I I
- 35:27sometimes give people too
- 35:28much credit but cross fat
- 35:29has reminded me that the
- 35:31internet did vote enough to
- 35:32name a boat boat mcboat
- 35:33face boaty mcboat face yeah
- 35:39and that was done by the
- 35:40internet so can I say one
- 35:43more thing about the judges stuff
- 35:45Sure.
- 35:45Cause some people like also
- 35:47don't go in an affiliate to
- 35:48do the workout.
- 35:49Right.
- 35:49And sometimes I'll say that
- 35:50they had a judge and all of
- 35:51a sudden when you're
- 35:52looking at the video and there's no judge,
- 35:54they're actually not in
- 35:54their affiliate like that.
- 35:56When you have to post your video live,
- 35:58like you're going to have to,
- 35:59you're going to be able to
- 36:00see whether they even had a
- 36:01judge and all that.
- 36:02Well,
- 36:03I think there's going to be a
- 36:04requirement to be in the affiliate.
- 36:05The way I'm thinking,
- 36:06how are there's a lot of lying.
- 36:08There's a lot of people that are like, Oh,
- 36:10right.
- 36:10This person that judged me
- 36:12that has their course.
- 36:13Like there's a lot of people,
- 36:14but now that you are posting online,
- 36:16people are going to be like,
- 36:17that judge is not a level one.
- 36:19You're not allowed to put that.
- 36:20That's not that person that
- 36:21you put on your judges
- 36:21course or your judges card.
- 36:23You're going to get that.
- 36:25People are not grabbing
- 36:26actually an L one that has
- 36:28an advanced course.
- 36:29That,
- 36:30It's going to be problematic.
- 36:32But now that your video is public,
- 36:34some people may know and
- 36:35will call people out.
- 36:38How are you going to know
- 36:38where it was performed
- 36:40unless you know a gym really well?
- 36:42People that don't like you
- 36:44or something will find that out.
- 36:48But if your judge is not registered,
- 36:53they don't come up when you
- 36:54start typing them.
- 36:55Right.
- 36:55Yes.
- 36:55But that's the thing is
- 36:56people will you see it all the time.
- 36:59People weren't even judged
- 37:00and they're or they weren't
- 37:01even at the affiliate and
- 37:03they don't want to post
- 37:03their video live for people to judge it.
- 37:06So they're going to pretend
- 37:07that they go to an affiliate.
- 37:09They get the affiliate owner to say, yeah.
- 37:11And then they put this judge.
- 37:12Yeah.
- 37:14And sometimes the affiliate
- 37:15people don't even don't even verify.
- 37:17And they're like, oh, that's a good score.
- 37:18That's good score.
- 37:19Sure.
- 37:19This member was here.
- 37:21happens all the time oh you
- 37:23can put all the fail-safes
- 37:25in and people are still
- 37:25going to be deceptive
- 37:27you're never going to pull
- 37:28all of that out um because
- 37:30it's a competition people
- 37:31want to win yeah yeah I
- 37:35mean we're going to talk
- 37:36about other cheaters later
- 37:37in the show um that have
- 37:40popped up this week so
- 37:41popped up exactly exactly popped up um
- 37:50So Julia Eifert says a lot
- 37:52of athletes are not going
- 37:52to compete this year.
- 37:53So what's the point?
- 37:54It's going to be a lot of no
- 37:55names there in Texas.
- 37:57One, we don't know if it's in Texas.
- 37:59I don't know.
- 38:00They have not announced a
- 38:01place for the games.
- 38:02And there are a lot of
- 38:03rumors saying it's not going to be Texas.
- 38:06Texas doesn't want to host
- 38:07the games or especially not.
- 38:08Maybe not Texas,
- 38:09but Fort Worth does not want that.
- 38:13CrossFit to come back.
- 38:13There's no way they,
- 38:15they said yes with the
- 38:16anticipation that it was
- 38:17going to be good for their city.
- 38:19They're not wanting any
- 38:21association with CrossFit.
- 38:23Two,
- 38:24we don't know who's competing and not
- 38:25yet.
- 38:26Only one person I've seen
- 38:28definitively state they are not.
- 38:31And I've been combing
- 38:32Instagram the last few days
- 38:33just to see if anybody is
- 38:34making that statement.
- 38:36And three,
- 38:38it's going to be interesting to
- 38:39see what these off-season
- 38:40competitions do that want
- 38:42to vie to be a sanctional.
- 38:44And if it has to be tied to the open,
- 38:46it takes away a lot of
- 38:47opportunities for people
- 38:48who don't want to compete in the season.
- 38:50Mm-hmm.
- 38:51So it's going to there's a
- 38:52lot of dominoes to fall.
- 38:54And I think we just have to
- 38:55wait and see what those are
- 38:57before people make final decisions.
- 39:04So this is the second time
- 39:09Emma and Jack have been brought up.
- 39:10So, you know, I'm sorry,
- 39:12I was trying to hide that one.
- 39:16I didn't know about this.
- 39:17So Julian also says,
- 39:20do you guys think since
- 39:21mammoth training is going away?
- 39:23Does that mean Emma and Jack
- 39:24are done with CrossFit?
- 39:25I don't think so.
- 39:28If you watch the show last week,
- 39:29we pulled up Emma's TikTok.
- 39:31She is back to CrossFit training,
- 39:34and she is documenting that
- 39:35through her TikTok and not on, like,
- 39:38Instagram or other things right now.
- 39:41But you can go to TikTok and
- 39:44see her account,
- 39:44and she is almost daily
- 39:46documenting her journey
- 39:49back into CrossFit.
- 39:50Mm-hmm.
- 39:52And Josh, who was the Mammoth coach,
- 39:55wasn't doing it full time.
- 39:57He had another job.
- 39:58And we don't know what the
- 39:59reason was why he is no
- 40:02longer going all in on this.
- 40:04So he could have family
- 40:05stuff that he wants to attend with.
- 40:08He could have other plans of
- 40:10growing something else.
- 40:12I don't think it has
- 40:12anything to do with Emma and Jack.
- 40:15and their future in CrossFit.
- 40:16I think they're going to
- 40:19find someone else or
- 40:22whatever option that they'll do.
- 40:24Yep.
- 40:26Vi says, do you think they'll join a camp?
- 40:27I don't know.
- 40:28I have no idea these days.
- 40:31I could see Emma Lawson
- 40:32going to Proven with her
- 40:34relationship a little bit with Tia.
- 40:35When Tia was kind of guiding
- 40:37her a little bit for a couple years,
- 40:40I could see that, but...
- 40:43I could see her staying out of camp.
- 40:45I think that would be best
- 40:47for her is to stay away
- 40:48from any camps and
- 40:50comparison and just train and have fun.
- 40:54I know she's had offers from
- 40:56multiple camps and has turned them down.
- 41:02Mammoth never said they were a camp.
- 41:06It was just a guy training
- 41:07Jack and Emma and they
- 41:08brought one more person on.
- 41:11who who fit the dynamic of
- 41:14who was there yeah and she
- 41:16just ended up following the
- 41:17program and was very very
- 41:18good right and then they
- 41:20ended up living in a very
- 41:21similar location so just
- 41:23follow that is um erica
- 41:26follow so just made it easy
- 41:28to bring on board uh so
- 41:37There's a lot.
- 41:38So Lynn says, yeah,
- 41:40I hope competitions will
- 41:41change how they qualify
- 41:42people because if they're using the open,
- 41:43they're limiting their
- 41:44audience of people who want to compete.
- 41:48I disagree.
- 41:49I mean, I think that's how it needs to be.
- 41:53We need to see the effect.
- 41:53I don't think one
- 41:54competition at one time in
- 41:56the year needs to dictate all the,
- 41:58all the rest of the competitions.
- 42:00I disagree with that.
- 42:01Like if someone's injured at
- 42:02that time of the year, if you're like,
- 42:04you need other
- 42:04opportunities to compete
- 42:06and like the open cannot be
- 42:08the qualifier for every
- 42:09single thing down the road.
- 42:10It can't, we cannot have one,
- 42:13one weekend for the rest of
- 42:15the season for every single thing.
- 42:17Like if you,
- 42:18that was a good part about the
- 42:19Sanctuaries.
- 42:19You actually didn't even
- 42:20need to do the open.
- 42:22Like I think Emily Rolfe had
- 42:23qualified through the
- 42:24Granite Games and hadn't
- 42:24even done the open that year,
- 42:26if I remember.
- 42:27I mean, you think, if you're,
- 42:32I don't think that the one
- 42:34percent is going to be,
- 42:37is going to hold somebody out.
- 42:39And so like you have a big
- 42:40pool of people able to continue on.
- 42:46I still don't think one
- 42:47competition needs to... It
- 42:50is the epitome of what we do.
- 42:53To let people not sign up
- 42:55for the CrossFit Open
- 42:57negates everything that we
- 42:59are here to do.
- 43:00We did it before.
- 43:01And I think if the other
- 43:06circuits for people that
- 43:08are not looking to do the
- 43:09Open and do any part of the
- 43:11CrossFit Games season...
- 43:14That, I think,
- 43:15is what Lynn is talking about.
- 43:16Sure.
- 43:17Then you don't want to use the open.
- 43:20You have the Wadapalooza qualifier.
- 43:21You have a Rogue qualifier.
- 43:22You have other ways to
- 43:24qualify to that event.
- 43:26Wadapalooza will still be there.
- 43:28And Rogue is obviously going
- 43:29to be probably its own
- 43:30thing the way it always is.
- 43:35You have these ones that are
- 43:36in the other part of the
- 43:37season that aren't going to
- 43:38be open dependent.
- 43:40And so, fine.
- 43:41There you go.
- 43:42If those are the ones you want to do,
- 43:43then do them.
- 43:47I'm kind of in between both of you.
- 43:49So I see the point of you
- 43:56have to decide if you want
- 43:57this sport to be an
- 43:58Olympic-style sport where
- 43:59you have to go through this
- 44:01on certain dates,
- 44:01and if you don't make those dates,
- 44:03you're just done?
- 44:04Or do you want to be an
- 44:06every-year season where
- 44:08people have opportunity –
- 44:12Like we talked about the Forty-Niners,
- 44:13the beginning of the show.
- 44:16Brock Purdy's hurt, can't play.
- 44:18But if they can still
- 44:19qualify for the playoffs,
- 44:21he can come back in and
- 44:22help them get to the Super Bowl.
- 44:25So you have to decide if
- 44:27Gabby McGowan can
- 44:28miraculously come back from her surgery,
- 44:31and it just happens to be in April.
- 44:33Or Roman, for instance.
- 44:35Or Roman.
- 44:35And should you be allowed to jump in –
- 44:39in april and have a shot to
- 44:41make the games because you
- 44:43were still rehabbing your
- 44:44achilles in february and my
- 44:47opinion is yes if you beat
- 44:50out those people in april
- 44:54why can't you earn the
- 44:55right to go to a bigger
- 44:58event after that whether
- 44:59it's the games or whatever
- 45:00is the next event because
- 45:02it's like there can be one
- 45:03path that is that way and
- 45:06then there's another path
- 45:07where you don't need to
- 45:09Like,
- 45:09I understand that people will be like,
- 45:11well,
- 45:12then people won't do the open
- 45:13because why would they do the open?
- 45:15Right.
- 45:16I get that.
- 45:17But I'm saying if you want to grow,
- 45:19like if you're doing,
- 45:20and that's the thing with
- 45:21the methodology and the sport, right?
- 45:25Sure.
- 45:25Well,
- 45:25then we need to figure that out and
- 45:27separate them if that's
- 45:28where we're going.
- 45:28But that's not the current case.
- 45:30And if we want the open to matter,
- 45:32then it needs to matter.
- 45:34And now it does.
- 45:35Yes.
- 45:36Yes.
- 45:38Yeah,
- 45:39I think there's just dissenting
- 45:41opinions on whether the
- 45:42open should matter or not.
- 45:44It's not going to preclude
- 45:45you from doing everything.
- 45:47There's going to be plenty
- 45:48of events that you can
- 45:49still sign up for if you
- 45:51didn't do the open or are
- 45:53holding out on the open.
- 45:56I to me,
- 45:57the open is is romanticized in my
- 45:59head because it was one of
- 46:01my favorite moments when I
- 46:02finally had the courage to
- 46:03do it in twenty thirteen.
- 46:05Right.
- 46:05And so do I want it to go away?
- 46:07No,
- 46:07I don't want it to go away and I don't
- 46:09want it to lose its value.
- 46:10But I'm telling you,
- 46:11there is a lot of people in
- 46:12this community that are at
- 46:14a point where it does not matter to them.
- 46:18And that's all I'm saying.
- 46:20For me, I think it should matter,
- 46:21and I do want it to matter.
- 46:24I just,
- 46:25I don't know if we're at a place where.
- 46:29So overarching with all this
- 46:30stuff we've talked about,
- 46:31like CrossFit comes out
- 46:32with all this stuff,
- 46:33but we still haven't heard from anybody.
- 46:35And we haven't even got into
- 46:37the post third-party
- 46:40investigation changes that have happened.
- 46:43And we still,
- 46:44the only public statement
- 46:45that's been made is that an
- 46:46affiliate gathering.
- 46:49Right.
- 46:49which is a small percentage
- 46:50of the overall community.
- 46:52There are a lot of people
- 46:53that go into a gym every
- 46:54day or follow the sport who
- 46:57know nothing as to what's going on.
- 46:59And no statement has been
- 47:01made by anybody other than, Hey,
- 47:03we're making these changes.
- 47:05Here's a press release.
- 47:09We don't, we, you can't ask questions.
- 47:11You can't,
- 47:12you can't get in more in depth
- 47:14information about any of this stuff.
- 47:16It's just here.
- 47:18And,
- 47:20I guess I shouldn't be
- 47:21surprised that this is – I
- 47:27keep going back and forth
- 47:28in my head whether this is
- 47:29strategic or it's like
- 47:33being hushed by lawyers or what.
- 47:36But it just seems like why
- 47:38couldn't you come out and say –
- 47:41Either A,
- 47:41this is a summary of what the
- 47:44findings were,
- 47:45and this is why we're doing this.
- 47:47Or, hey,
- 47:48our attorneys have said we can't
- 47:49really make statements
- 47:50about the third party
- 47:52investigation at this time.
- 47:54But these are changes we're
- 47:55making for the future.
- 47:56Right.
- 47:57So I feel like it probably isn't a legal.
- 48:00It is a legal thing.
- 48:02And I wish that that's how
- 48:03they would have presented that.
- 48:08but just throwing this out
- 48:09there with no statement
- 48:12really falls freaking flat.
- 48:15Yeah.
- 48:15And I think like when
- 48:17they're talking about like,
- 48:18we're going to increase this safety,
- 48:20but like,
- 48:20we don't even know what was in
- 48:21place to begin.
- 48:22Like, we don't know what has changed.
- 48:24Like, what did they even have before?
- 48:26Like, is it a small anchors big?
- 48:27Like,
- 48:28we don't even know how much money
- 48:29that they have in safety before.
- 48:31What are they spending now on safety?
- 48:33Like, there's no comparison.
- 48:34It's just kind of,
- 48:35You're not going to get any
- 48:36of that information, though.
- 48:36We're not getting any
- 48:37information on what was in
- 48:39place prior and what are
- 48:40the specific changes from where was at.
- 48:44If they do that,
- 48:45they are admitting that
- 48:46they didn't have enough
- 48:48safety precautions and it
- 48:49would be completely used
- 48:51against them by the Juket family.
- 48:54Yes.
- 48:55You cannot put anything out
- 48:56like that that says...
- 48:58Yep,
- 48:59we were short here or this is where we
- 49:00were.
- 49:01We're going to go to here.
- 49:01Well, why are you going to here?
- 49:02Well,
- 49:03because this wasn't enough like that
- 49:04could all be used against them.
- 49:06They need to just say they
- 49:07can't come out with
- 49:07anything for legal reasons right now.
- 49:10And, you know, when things settle,
- 49:13then hopefully we can come
- 49:14out with more information.
- 49:15They just need to be a
- 49:16little bit more transparent,
- 49:19like they said, of their in transparency.
- 49:26But yeah,
- 49:27I think Don making that promise
- 49:28was foolish to begin with.
- 49:30I agree.
- 49:32Yeah.
- 49:32You can't say you're going
- 49:32to be transparent about the
- 49:33whole process and stuff.
- 49:34And then you come out with
- 49:35that letter and hide.
- 49:37You don't even, you hide,
- 49:39you hide behind the letter
- 49:40because you're not even going forward,
- 49:41forward facing and facing any questions,
- 49:44answering anything about
- 49:46what you just posted.
- 49:47There's nothing that States
- 49:50anything really.
- 49:51There's a lot of repetition
- 49:52within the letter as well.
- 49:53I, from my opinion.
- 49:55Right.
- 49:57Yeah.
- 49:58Well,
- 49:58I want to make sure we have time for
- 49:59the hall of fame.
- 50:00So I'm going to,
- 50:01a lot of people have talked
- 50:02about the changes.
- 50:04Um, and just a brief summary of, um,
- 50:08what the changes were,
- 50:09are they're creating a new
- 50:10position that reports to
- 50:12Don and Dave that their
- 50:14responsibility will be the
- 50:16safety of the CrossFit games.
- 50:20Um, to me, that was the biggest F you.
- 50:24Like you start your letter.
- 50:26Sorry, I don't, but like it was,
- 50:27it was just like,
- 50:28we are going to report the
- 50:30safety to Dave Castro.
- 50:33Like when you look at what
- 50:34the demands were of the PFA and that's,
- 50:37that's the first thing that you, that you,
- 50:38that's the first name that you drop.
- 50:41Like that is the biggest F
- 50:44you to the athletes that are.
- 50:47And a close second is that
- 50:48they created an athlete council that,
- 50:52in competition with exactly
- 50:53what they had just done.
- 50:57Yep.
- 50:59So they said that the new
- 51:02person's reporting to Dave and Don,
- 51:04that Dave is still the head
- 51:05of CrossFit sport,
- 51:07that the new athlete
- 51:09council will be there to
- 51:12help guide them in safety
- 51:13measures and all of that stuff.
- 51:15The same thing that the PFA
- 51:17has promised to do.
- 51:18And now, like you know darn well,
- 51:20Lex was a member of that a while ago,
- 51:23and they weren't used like
- 51:26they should have been.
- 51:28No,
- 51:28they had meetings and stuff and like
- 51:30they would talk about like
- 51:32good things and interesting
- 51:33things to put into place.
- 51:35It just ended up stopping right away.
- 51:37Like it just didn't last very long.
- 51:39It was like the idea was there,
- 51:40but the execution on some
- 51:42of the promises just weren't there.
- 51:44And that's a theme with
- 51:45CrossFit is there's a lot
- 51:46of great ideas and then
- 51:47there's no follow through.
- 51:49You know,
- 51:49we're going to do the service open.
- 51:51Boom.
- 51:51It stops.
- 51:52It's like, Oh, we've got to bring it back.
- 51:53Like, Oh,
- 51:53we're going to do this competition.
- 51:55We're going to do the, like,
- 51:55there's a lot of great
- 51:57ideas within the space,
- 51:58but then there's just a lack of execution,
- 52:00a lack of consistency within our sport,
- 52:02within things that we want to implement.
- 52:05And the changes just make it
- 52:08that there's such a lack of
- 52:09trust within the organization.
- 52:13Like there's just,
- 52:13you don't know what you're
- 52:14getting from year to year.
- 52:16There's like,
- 52:18constant changes at the top.
- 52:21And so, so we have those two things,
- 52:24those three things.
- 52:25We have the safety council
- 52:27now that's being formed.
- 52:28That's a group of, um,
- 52:32first responders and athletes, uh,
- 52:34to go over safety protocols, uh,
- 52:37that an ambulance and an
- 52:38EMT staff will now be
- 52:39present for all events at
- 52:42the CrossFit games.
- 52:43Um,
- 52:45And I think that's pretty much everything.
- 52:48Again, a lot of people have gone over it.
- 52:50We did on Thursday in the round table,
- 52:52if you want to go back and
- 52:53check that out.
- 52:54But those structures were made.
- 52:56But the biggest thing was
- 52:57through the new season
- 52:59structure and this release,
- 53:01what I realized was that
- 53:03CrossFit just unloaded all
- 53:04the liability they had for
- 53:06the entire CrossFit game
- 53:07season onto the affiliates
- 53:10and these affiliates
- 53:11in-person competitions to
- 53:13get people to the games
- 53:14until you get to the
- 53:15crossfit games that is the
- 53:17only place that they're
- 53:18going to be liable for
- 53:19anything injury safety wise
- 53:26yep I mean they can still
- 53:28program stupid things but
- 53:31then with with the
- 53:32affiliate that don't have
- 53:33the infrastructure to keep
- 53:35certain athletes
- 53:37safe like they could in a
- 53:40more controlled environment
- 53:41I guess yeah but so that's
- 53:45all that um I'm just I'm
- 53:48kind of curious to see if
- 53:50this one percent like how
- 53:51many people make it like
- 53:53will there be little like
- 53:55local like a one big town
- 54:00crossfit gym bring like
- 54:02eight different gyms
- 54:03together I mean because you
- 54:05realistically there's
- 54:06probably gonna be like
- 54:08couple people out of you
- 54:10know a bunch of gyms in an
- 54:12area so like do they get
- 54:13together and try to pull
- 54:14like a you know like the
- 54:17saban group of semi-finals
- 54:19last year and make these
- 54:19like little this weekend
- 54:21pop up like huge I think it
- 54:23could be sweet if you have
- 54:25these that weekend if you
- 54:27have a bunch of gyms that
- 54:28like are willing to stand
- 54:29up and bring a big a big
- 54:32group of people in
- 54:33make it a little competition
- 54:35and gym I mean that's how
- 54:36you're gonna get your best
- 54:37effort too I think it could
- 54:40be sweet but I think it's
- 54:41putting a lot on affiliate
- 54:42owners I was just about to
- 54:43say that yes but for an
- 54:46affiliate like like
- 54:48honestly like I'm trying to
- 54:49think about around me how
- 54:51how many people this is
- 54:52going to are going to be
- 54:53able to qualify and it's
- 54:56not a lot and so like
- 54:58I think the couple of us
- 55:00that might make it probably
- 55:01do need to get together and
- 55:02go to one gym.
- 55:02So it's one,
- 55:03it's a burden on one person
- 55:05and it's probably one gym
- 55:06that was going to do a lot anyway.
- 55:11Like, like you think about it,
- 55:12like mayhem is going to do
- 55:13is going to cater to
- 55:14whatever they need to anyway.
- 55:15So mayhem will probably
- 55:16become a Mecca that weekend for a bunch.
- 55:19I mean,
- 55:19I bet you a lot of people travel to
- 55:21mayhem to do it there
- 55:22because it will be done.
- 55:23Right.
- 55:24Um, I, I,
- 55:31I actually think this is
- 55:32unburdening a lot of affiliate owners,
- 55:35quite honestly.
- 55:36Quarterfinals was a burden.
- 55:39And you are unburdening a lot.
- 55:42And so one gym needs to step
- 55:44up and bring in a handful
- 55:45of athletes and make a weekend out of it.
- 55:47And it could be like so
- 55:48exciting for the members.
- 55:50Like you're, you are now have like,
- 55:52I may have to go to a gym.
- 55:54Forty miles from me,
- 55:55but hopefully there's two other people.
- 55:57And I may like get some new
- 55:58fans out of this.
- 55:59Like that gym might like
- 56:01create a little local
- 56:02hometown feel that people
- 56:03show up that weekend and
- 56:04cheer for the four of us
- 56:05that are competing.
- 56:09Yeah,
- 56:10I think that's discussions for the
- 56:12next few weeks.
- 56:13Of course, I've said this,
- 56:15that I would try to copy
- 56:18what Savan did and do a
- 56:21live stream of the
- 56:22semifinals to give people
- 56:26some exposure because the
- 56:27athlete's losing that
- 56:28exposure from semifinals.
- 56:31where they might be able to
- 56:32get a sponsor or something like that.
- 56:34But I think we can discuss
- 56:37that in the future weeks.
- 56:39Right now, I just think, like,
- 56:41not much has been said.
- 56:42There's two press releases that came out,
- 56:45very vague,
- 56:46and nobody to ask questions of.
- 56:49And the chat's just
- 56:50basically all saying the
- 56:51trust for HQ is gone.
- 56:54And that was waning anyway.
- 56:56In the sports side, it's been gone for,
- 56:59I think,
- 57:01while and then what happened
- 57:05at this past game was like
- 57:07even more like that was
- 57:08like the the end of the
- 57:11trust for yeah a lot and
- 57:15denise yes I do know where
- 57:17the water comes from and
- 57:19how it gets into my house
- 57:19because it comes from a
- 57:20hole in my ground I don't
- 57:22have to trust the city and
- 57:24I have a well so I don't
- 57:26nobody's cleaning it up for
- 57:27me before it gets into my house
- 57:31So in the next three minutes,
- 57:32let's go over reps ahead
- 57:33five that happened.
- 57:35I thought it was the best
- 57:35version of reps ahead so far.
- 57:38It was a tournament style.
- 57:41where on Saturday there were four matches.
- 57:45On the men's side,
- 57:46there was a Tudor Magda
- 57:47versus Cole Grishaber.
- 57:50And then there was James
- 57:52Sprague versus Malachi Bennett.
- 57:54And they were seeded based
- 57:55on performance throughout the year.
- 57:58And then on the women's side,
- 57:59it was Trista Smith versus Zoe Warren.
- 58:02And then Ariel Lowen versus Rachel Noel.
- 58:06The winners of those matches
- 58:07on that day won two thousand dollars.
- 58:13And it was bar muscle ups,
- 58:15burpee box overs and clean and jerks.
- 58:21Seven, five, seven, six, five.
- 58:23Yes.
- 58:24Seven, six, five.
- 58:27And Tudor came out like a
- 58:29house on fire and had a
- 58:30total meltdown where Cole
- 58:32was then able to overtake him,
- 58:34which I thought was really exciting.
- 58:35Yeah, it was.
- 58:37Tudor was going for the early knockout.
- 58:39I know.
- 58:40And then, but he just couldn't.
- 58:42And that's what makes these
- 58:44exciting when this, that happens.
- 58:46If someone was like delusional,
- 58:48like it was, it got bad.
- 58:50I was like, damn.
- 58:53I know his legs were given out.
- 58:54He went in a hole.
- 58:57Yep.
- 58:58Yeah.
- 58:59James Sprague and Malachi Bennett.
- 59:01It was just James Sprague
- 59:02had better bar muscle ups
- 59:05and was able to string them
- 59:06together faster and
- 59:08eventually just overtook
- 59:09him for the knockout.
- 59:12And then on the women's side,
- 59:13Trista Smith and Zoe Warren
- 59:14had a really good battle.
- 59:16And then Trista saw an opening.
- 59:18And actually,
- 59:19you thought Zoe was going to get her.
- 59:21And somehow Trista had like
- 59:23a little second wind and
- 59:26was able to come back and beat her.
- 59:28I thought that was a great match to watch.
- 59:30Because I thought Trista or
- 59:31Zoe had the win.
- 59:33And she ended up dying worse
- 59:36than Trista did earlier.
- 59:38And Trista was able to come
- 59:39back and get the win.
- 59:41Yeah.
- 59:41I was messaging Lex at that
- 59:43last night and we were
- 59:44watching and I was after
- 59:47the third round because
- 59:48Trista had the early lead
- 59:50in the first two rounds.
- 59:51And then she kind of just
- 59:52looked like she was just
- 59:53fading in that third round and really,
- 59:55really struggling.
- 59:56And then you had the,
- 59:57the lead change all of a
- 59:58sudden at the flip flop
- 1:00:00fully in that third round.
- 1:00:01And I'm like, Oh, Trista is done here.
- 1:00:03She's basically, it's like tutor.
- 1:00:05And then like out of nowhere, like,
- 1:00:08Zoe just like died.
- 1:00:10And I was like, Oh my God,
- 1:00:11what is happening in this workout?
- 1:00:12Oh, to be nineteen again.
- 1:00:15And then and then Ariel
- 1:00:16Lowen took on Rachel Noel
- 1:00:17and it really was not a match.
- 1:00:20Ariel hit the gas in the second round.
- 1:00:22And Ariel said she was
- 1:00:23really just going at a pace
- 1:00:24that like eighty percent.
- 1:00:26And then she saw the
- 1:00:27opportunity and kicked it
- 1:00:29up to get the knockout.
- 1:00:31So then that moved to a
- 1:00:32championship round today of
- 1:00:35James Sprague versus Cole Greasaber.
- 1:00:37That one ended in the first round.
- 1:00:41Um,
- 1:00:41Cole's chest of our pull-ups went away
- 1:00:44and James took that over pretty quick.
- 1:00:46And then Ariel versus Trista
- 1:00:48was a second round knockout.
- 1:00:50It was rep for rep.
- 1:00:53I know in the first round,
- 1:00:55they look like they were
- 1:00:56doing synchro team.
- 1:00:57It did.
- 1:00:58It was good.
- 1:01:00And then in the second round, uh,
- 1:01:02Uh,
- 1:01:02Trista missed a snatch and that was all,
- 1:01:06that's all Ariel needed was
- 1:01:08to get off the barbell
- 1:01:08first and get to the chest
- 1:01:10of bar and she just ripped through it.
- 1:01:12Yeah.
- 1:01:14I actually think it's too
- 1:01:16bad Tudor lost yesterday
- 1:01:17because Tudor was looking
- 1:01:20fast in this workout.
- 1:01:21Oh, God.
- 1:01:22If he would have had to go another round,
- 1:01:23though,
- 1:01:23it would have been the same thing
- 1:01:24as yesterday.
- 1:01:25But I think his cycle speed
- 1:01:27is just like it looked really fast.
- 1:01:31Yeah, because he was sprinting.
- 1:01:33Yeah.
- 1:01:36He was banking on winning.
- 1:01:38He was going to be in
- 1:01:39trouble again if he didn't win.
- 1:01:41Just so people knew,
- 1:01:42the losers from yesterday
- 1:01:44moved forward to today and
- 1:01:45got to compete for a thousand dollars.
- 1:01:47Yeah.
- 1:01:48So Tudor got to come back
- 1:01:49and he took on Malachi and
- 1:01:51he went balls to the wall again,
- 1:01:54but he was able to hold on
- 1:01:55long enough to get the knockout.
- 1:01:57Zoe was replaced by Kelly Stone.
- 1:01:59Yeah.
- 1:02:01And she took on Rachel Noel and Rachel...
- 1:02:04Kelly did the competition
- 1:02:05all weekend and had no legs left,
- 1:02:07and it was obvious pretty
- 1:02:08quick on the box jump overs.
- 1:02:11And so Rachel Noel and Tudor
- 1:02:13got a grand each.
- 1:02:15And then James and Ariel
- 1:02:16winning overall got five grand each,
- 1:02:19plus the two grand from yesterday.
- 1:02:20That didn't make sense to me.
- 1:02:22So they won seven thousand dollars.
- 1:02:24She's like, I want I want to do one.
- 1:02:28I know.
- 1:02:30Right.
- 1:02:30And then one hundred dollars
- 1:02:32for every time someone got a knockout.
- 1:02:34Yeah.
- 1:02:35So they actually won seventy
- 1:02:36one hundred dollars.
- 1:02:38Why don't they just make the
- 1:02:40final day the price purse?
- 1:02:43I don't understand.
- 1:02:45I think it was cool this way
- 1:02:46because by winning Saturday,
- 1:02:48you got a prize,
- 1:02:50and then you get to go
- 1:02:51fight for a bigger prize.
- 1:02:56So the losers of today still
- 1:02:58got the two grand they won
- 1:02:59yesterday because they
- 1:03:00didn't get anything today.
- 1:03:02Do they get their trip paid for, too?
- 1:03:03They do.
- 1:03:04Damn.
- 1:03:06That's like rogue stuff right there.
- 1:03:09Yeah.
- 1:03:10Pretty sweet.
- 1:03:11Yeah, that's some good treatment.
- 1:03:13And I was telling Jamie
- 1:03:15before we got on the air,
- 1:03:17Julie even watched this with me.
- 1:03:18And she does not watch CrossFit.
- 1:03:21So this was short enough and
- 1:03:24exciting enough that she watched.
- 1:03:27And so maybe they do have something.
- 1:03:29And I like the tournament
- 1:03:30better than the one-off.
- 1:03:33Yep.
- 1:03:34Yeah, I did too.
- 1:03:35Mm-hmm.
- 1:03:39I like yesterday's workout better, though.
- 1:03:42I would have much rather
- 1:03:42done yesterday's workout.
- 1:03:45Agree.
- 1:03:46But visually, too, though,
- 1:03:48I thought the chest-to-bar
- 1:03:50is such a fast movement.
- 1:03:51Yeah.
- 1:03:51Like, it just,
- 1:03:53the punches were fast today.
- 1:03:54But, I mean, maybe that's what we wanted,
- 1:03:55though.
- 1:03:56We don't need them to go to
- 1:03:58the last round.
- 1:04:00I thought the broadcast
- 1:04:01dynamic of Brian Friend
- 1:04:02with Andrew Hiller was interesting,
- 1:04:05to say the least.
- 1:04:08But I think they pulled it off.
- 1:04:13And it was entertaining.
- 1:04:14It was good.
- 1:04:16They did good.
- 1:04:17And I really love the
- 1:04:19post-interviews of each one.
- 1:04:22Some of them were really
- 1:04:23breathing heavy when they were doing them,
- 1:04:25but I thought they were done really well.
- 1:04:29A couple other quick news items.
- 1:04:31Katrin may or may not be retiring.
- 1:04:34There was a leak from
- 1:04:35Talking Elite Fitness.
- 1:04:36And I said this on Thursday
- 1:04:37on the Roundtable.
- 1:04:38When we used to edit our podcast,
- 1:04:40I was afraid of those things happening.
- 1:04:43So I feel so bad for Talking
- 1:04:45Elite Fitness.
- 1:04:46I wish people didn't post that.
- 1:04:49To me, if you see a leak like that,
- 1:04:51you can talk about it
- 1:04:52within your little circle
- 1:04:53that you saw it.
- 1:04:54To me, it's like, let that person know.
- 1:04:58break that news I don't know
- 1:05:01yeah she's obviously told a
- 1:05:02lot of people so yeah but
- 1:05:03still like I think all
- 1:05:04three of them knew in
- 1:05:06different from different
- 1:05:07sources so it's it's out
- 1:05:08there all over the place
- 1:05:09yeah but I think if there's
- 1:05:10a difference between the
- 1:05:12like showing it to the
- 1:05:13public like fully and I get
- 1:05:15that some people would have
- 1:05:16seen it but I don't know
- 1:05:19yeah people all want credit
- 1:05:22for posting the first post of that but
- 1:05:28uh we also have some drug
- 1:05:29suspension news uh sean
- 1:05:31ramirez received the first
- 1:05:32ever uh lifetime ban yes as
- 1:05:39it should be uh and then
- 1:05:41cristiano domeshino placed
- 1:05:45fourth in the men's forty
- 1:05:46five to forty nine age
- 1:05:47group also tested positive
- 1:05:48for performance enhancing
- 1:05:49drugs uh and he did not
- 1:05:51appeal so he is serving a
- 1:05:53four-year suspension for his first uh ban
- 1:05:57Gabby McGowan had successful
- 1:05:59surgery on her Achilles.
- 1:06:01Mia Hesketh announced a pregnancy.
- 1:06:04And the PFA elected a new athlete board.
- 1:06:08And that's been talked about
- 1:06:08a lot if you want to go check it out.
- 1:06:10It's an interesting cast of characters.
- 1:06:15And I think that's good.
- 1:06:16I think that it seems to be
- 1:06:18people from different
- 1:06:19backgrounds and different styles.
- 1:06:23And I think that's good.
- 1:06:24The more diversity you have on that,
- 1:06:26the better.
- 1:06:29So we are going to now do
- 1:06:32the Clydesdale Media Hall of Fame.
- 1:06:35We are creating the CrossFit
- 1:06:36Games Hall of Fame.
- 1:06:40And what I'm going to do is
- 1:06:43I'm first going to share my screen here.
- 1:06:47So I have this little canva here.
- 1:06:50And what we have is twenty
- 1:06:51two nominees for the
- 1:06:53CrossFit Hall of Fame.
- 1:06:56In the first year,
- 1:06:57four members are elected.
- 1:06:59In the second year,
- 1:07:00three members will be elected,
- 1:07:03and everybody else who's
- 1:07:04not elected in the first
- 1:07:05year or the second year
- 1:07:06will have to wait for
- 1:07:07another year to go through
- 1:07:09the nomination process.
- 1:07:12So what I'm going to do is I
- 1:07:13have a bunch of names in
- 1:07:14white in the white banner above.
- 1:07:17I'm going to pull one down
- 1:07:18and put it into the black
- 1:07:19so you can see it.
- 1:07:20And then Carolyn and Jamie
- 1:07:23will have to agree on which
- 1:07:25bucket to put it in.
- 1:07:27Are they a first ballot Hall of Fame,
- 1:07:28second ballot,
- 1:07:29or they need to wait until next year?
- 1:07:32And this is not just athletes.
- 1:07:34It is media members and
- 1:07:37CrossFit HQ because the
- 1:07:38Hall of Fames have those as well.
- 1:07:42So are we ready?
- 1:07:43I'm ready.
- 1:07:44First name, Sean Woodland.
- 1:07:49I have wait till next time.
- 1:07:51Yeah, I'll agree.
- 1:07:54And I love Sean.
- 1:07:55I do too.
- 1:07:56I just, this is, this is a tough list.
- 1:08:00I mean,
- 1:08:00he would be first ballot if it was
- 1:08:02in his field of media.
- 1:08:05Like that's for sure.
- 1:08:10uh let's do this one rich
- 1:08:12froning first ballot
- 1:08:15correct the only correct
- 1:08:18the only correct answer
- 1:08:19okay I haven't even looked
- 1:08:25at all the names dan bailey
- 1:08:31wait till next time yep dan bailey
- 1:08:40Danny Broflex.
- 1:08:44Uh-oh.
- 1:08:45Uh-oh, uh-oh.
- 1:08:47All right, clicked and set.
- 1:08:48Matt Chan.
- 1:08:50Wait till next time.
- 1:08:51Yep.
- 1:08:51Podium finisher and everything?
- 1:08:53Yeah.
- 1:08:55Titan Games winner?
- 1:08:57Yeah.
- 1:08:57Here.
- 1:09:04Matt Frazier.
- 1:09:08First ballot.
- 1:09:09Yep.
- 1:09:13Lynn says Dan Bailey was the
- 1:09:15prettiest CrossFitter for a long time.
- 1:09:17Wait, I protest.
- 1:09:20Fair protest, Lynn.
- 1:09:23I think Rich is the most
- 1:09:24influential CrossFitter of all time,
- 1:09:27and Matt is the best male
- 1:09:29athlete of all time.
- 1:09:31Dan was Mr. Open before he
- 1:09:33was Mr. Broflex.
- 1:09:34That's true.
- 1:09:37Okay.
- 1:09:38Let's see what else we have up here.
- 1:09:41Noah Olson.
- 1:09:43I have, I have them waiting until next.
- 1:09:45Yep.
- 1:09:46Same.
- 1:09:46Okay.
- 1:09:48What?
- 1:09:51You have only seven people we can pick.
- 1:09:53So what?
- 1:09:54Well, I don't even remember the whole list,
- 1:09:57so we can also move it after.
- 1:10:01Oh, you think?
- 1:10:02Oh, maybe.
- 1:10:03Okay.
- 1:10:07James Fitzgerald.
- 1:10:11I have them waiting till next personally.
- 1:10:13CrossFit games champion.
- 1:10:15Yep.
- 1:10:15Waiting till next second ballot.
- 1:10:18All right.
- 1:10:21You guys have to come to an agreement.
- 1:10:23Can you put them like
- 1:10:24between second and wait till next till we,
- 1:10:28till we narrow down.
- 1:10:30He's the first champ.
- 1:10:35I just think there's people
- 1:10:36more influential than him on the sport.
- 1:10:39mean I get that he did the
- 1:10:40opt I just don't think I
- 1:10:42also think he also like who
- 1:10:47is james exactly that's the
- 1:10:49other thing there are
- 1:10:50people far more influential
- 1:10:53in the affiliate side like
- 1:10:57so he is the first ever
- 1:10:58crossfit games champion
- 1:11:00james and he created opex yes
- 1:11:04that actually competed
- 1:11:05against CrossFit for a good
- 1:11:07number of years.
- 1:11:08Right.
- 1:11:08And now his athletes are
- 1:11:10actually participants in
- 1:11:12the CrossFit Games,
- 1:11:13and he is a coach and
- 1:11:14trainer up in Canada.
- 1:11:21Okay.
- 1:11:22So what I'll do right now is
- 1:11:23I'm going to just put him
- 1:11:25right there for now.
- 1:11:29Yeah,
- 1:11:29I don't even know all the names coming up,
- 1:11:31but I just feel like
- 1:11:33I mean, he's influential.
- 1:11:35Josh Everett.
- 1:11:37Next time.
- 1:11:38Next time.
- 1:11:41I'm going to it's going to
- 1:11:43be a murky mess over here.
- 1:11:47Jason Kalipa.
- 1:11:49So I have him in first ballot.
- 1:11:58think yeah I'm between first
- 1:11:59and second right now I
- 1:12:01don't know what's coming up
- 1:12:02let's we can put them in
- 1:12:03first I guess okay all
- 1:12:06right you want to put them
- 1:12:06on the line yes just put
- 1:12:09them in first we can move
- 1:12:10after if we feel okay ben
- 1:12:14smith I personally have
- 1:12:21been in my in my second ballot so
- 1:12:27You have Jason above Ben?
- 1:12:30Correct.
- 1:12:35I'm willing to switch those two.
- 1:12:37I think Jason won the games
- 1:12:38that had the least amount of workouts,
- 1:12:41right?
- 1:12:43Did he have... There was
- 1:12:48only three workouts when Jason won.
- 1:12:50To me,
- 1:12:51like I'm willing to switch those two.
- 1:12:52Those are the okay.
- 1:12:54Let's let's switch Ben and Jace.
- 1:12:56Let's put Jason in second right now.
- 1:12:58And I guess we can keep up to four.
- 1:13:02So I have someone else that
- 1:13:05I think needs to go in the hall of fame.
- 1:13:08You may disagree.
- 1:13:12Okay.
- 1:13:16Tommy Hackenbrook.
- 1:13:18Wait.
- 1:13:19team legend yeah wait till
- 1:13:22next time sorry buddy stone
- 1:13:25cold yeah what you're gonna
- 1:13:27have people over here in
- 1:13:27the chat say tommy who I
- 1:13:30like uh wait till next time
- 1:13:34yeah okay here we go pat
- 1:13:40barber wait till next time
- 1:13:43wait till next time
- 1:13:47I dug deep for these.
- 1:13:49I know.
- 1:13:49You have some good ones.
- 1:13:50I like them.
- 1:13:51Miko Salo.
- 1:13:52Wait until next time for me.
- 1:13:53Oh, not like a first or second.
- 1:13:57Nope.
- 1:13:58Not with,
- 1:13:59there's just too many names to pick.
- 1:14:02Ooh, I don't know about that.
- 1:14:05Now, tell me this.
- 1:14:07Would you pick Miko over James?
- 1:14:09I think he won one of the
- 1:14:11toughest games there ever was.
- 1:14:15still think they both need
- 1:14:16to wait personally I think
- 1:14:17there's other people more
- 1:14:18influential firsts in the
- 1:14:22chat miko is not first not
- 1:14:25even no I have I had miko
- 1:14:27in first in my mind with
- 1:14:28what he did for europe
- 1:14:29winning in my opinion one
- 1:14:30of the toughest games there
- 1:14:33are still so many people
- 1:14:34who don't know who miko is
- 1:14:36yeah that's just because
- 1:14:37they're newer to the sport
- 1:14:41It's like people that don't
- 1:14:42know who Kristen Clever was.
- 1:14:44Agree.
- 1:14:45And I wouldn't ever pick
- 1:14:46Kristen to be on a Hall of
- 1:14:47Fame right now.
- 1:14:49She may be somebody who waits and gets in,
- 1:14:52but there are people who...
- 1:14:55What?
- 1:14:55Sorry.
- 1:14:55Next week,
- 1:14:56we're going to have fun with the women,
- 1:14:57apparently.
- 1:14:58I'm sorry.
- 1:14:58I'm trying to pick people
- 1:14:59who are still pushing the affiliate model,
- 1:15:03still pushing people into CrossFit,
- 1:15:05still active.
- 1:15:06Nico Triangle.
- 1:15:07I know.
- 1:15:08And I just didn't meet him.
- 1:15:10But, like, Rich,
- 1:15:11there's a reason you have
- 1:15:11Rich on here is because
- 1:15:13he's still well-known in the space.
- 1:15:16No, he won four times.
- 1:15:21Yes,
- 1:15:21but Rich still is well-known in the space,
- 1:15:24and most people say he has
- 1:15:26done the most for the sport of CrossFit.
- 1:15:27Well, a hundred percent.
- 1:15:29Can you say the same for Mikko?
- 1:15:32In Europe, he did a lot.
- 1:15:34Yeah.
- 1:15:36He literally made European
- 1:15:41athletes introduce him.
- 1:15:43I'd rather boot Kalipa then
- 1:15:44and put Mikko there.
- 1:15:47Really?
- 1:15:48No, I would disagree.
- 1:15:52You're too North American based.
- 1:15:56I just said I'd rather boot Kalipa,
- 1:15:58get him out of there, and put Miko in.
- 1:16:00Oh,
- 1:16:00I thought you meant you'd rather put
- 1:16:02Kalipa in first than Miko.
- 1:16:08Sorry.
- 1:16:08Yeah, I would get rid of Kalipa.
- 1:16:10If you are stuck on Miko getting in,
- 1:16:13I would move Kalipa and have him wait.
- 1:16:16There's space for Kalipa and Miko.
- 1:16:19Yeah.
- 1:16:19No, there isn't.
- 1:16:21Let's pull them between first and second.
- 1:16:23You didn't even have them.
- 1:16:24You had them wait till next time.
- 1:16:26Yes, there's other people that belong on.
- 1:16:28OK,
- 1:16:29so let's meet in the middle then at
- 1:16:31least.
- 1:16:31So let's put them in the second.
- 1:16:33Then I want to pull Jason.
- 1:16:34I'm going to tell you that right now.
- 1:16:37Well, when we have them full,
- 1:16:38we will pull.
- 1:16:39OK.
- 1:16:43Dave Castro, I have him in first ballot.
- 1:16:59carolyn any thoughts I'm
- 1:17:01thinking he invented the
- 1:17:04games exactly right yes for
- 1:17:08the creation of the I guess
- 1:17:10I'm all with the athletes
- 1:17:11right now I don't
- 1:17:17I I mean I just don't think
- 1:17:19I it's it's hard to say he
- 1:17:24I understand you're in an
- 1:17:25athlete mindset but like
- 1:17:27dave is synonymous with the
- 1:17:31games yeah there would be
- 1:17:33no games without dave I
- 1:17:39mean I'm in for oj simpsons
- 1:17:41in the football hall of fame
- 1:17:44You don't have to love him.
- 1:17:46Doesn't mean he doesn't
- 1:17:47deserve to be there.
- 1:17:48She said she agrees first.
- 1:17:56Okay.
- 1:17:57Do we have any left?
- 1:17:59Yeah, you've got a couple left.
- 1:18:01Adrian Bosman.
- 1:18:03No, I have him waiting personally.
- 1:18:09I have the athletes on the mind right now.
- 1:18:10I don't want any.
- 1:18:12That's fine to me.
- 1:18:13It's it's wait till next time.
- 1:18:19Arm and hammer.
- 1:18:20Wait till next time.
- 1:18:22I do love him, though.
- 1:18:23Man, I watched him all the time.
- 1:18:26I mean,
- 1:18:26he just was the originator of he was.
- 1:18:28Yeah.
- 1:18:32Graham Holmberg.
- 1:18:33Wait till next time.
- 1:18:36Same.
- 1:18:43He was one of the only people to beat Rich,
- 1:18:45right?
- 1:18:45Yeah.
- 1:18:49The only person to beat Rich.
- 1:18:52Well,
- 1:18:53Tommy Hackenberg on this list beat
- 1:18:56him in team.
- 1:18:58That was Adrian Conway's team.
- 1:19:00Was it?
- 1:19:01Yeah.
- 1:19:02I think it was Tommy's team.
- 1:19:08I have Brent in my second ballot, so...
- 1:19:13But I'm willing,
- 1:19:15he'd be somebody I'd be
- 1:19:17willing to move if you are
- 1:19:20so partial to Miko or James over Brent.
- 1:19:29I would, I mean,
- 1:19:32Brent has how many podiums?
- 1:19:34That's my thing.
- 1:19:34Six.
- 1:19:36No, three podiums, three fourth place.
- 1:19:40But I have somebody else
- 1:19:42that I would... That's
- 1:19:44pretty hard to beat.
- 1:19:47How many years was he there?
- 1:19:50I still have somebody else that I want.
- 1:19:52I would agree with Vahir.
- 1:19:55Maybe just too early for
- 1:19:56Brent because he's just out
- 1:19:57of competing and normally
- 1:19:59we'd wait a little bit for
- 1:20:01some of the newer ones or some of the...
- 1:20:05Fair enough.
- 1:20:06I'm okay.
- 1:20:06The ones that have been
- 1:20:07there for a little bit,
- 1:20:08like his time will come
- 1:20:10within the next couple of years.
- 1:20:11I'm okay with that.
- 1:20:12That's fair.
- 1:20:13Okay.
- 1:20:13Let's go wait till next time.
- 1:20:20That's who I have in my,
- 1:20:22in my second ballot.
- 1:20:25Again, for me,
- 1:20:26he's somebody who with the family,
- 1:20:28with the affiliate, like he's pretty,
- 1:20:33He was a namesake for me,
- 1:20:35and I think he still pushes
- 1:20:37what CrossFit is.
- 1:20:38Him and his wife,
- 1:20:39I love watching their stories.
- 1:20:43To me, Brent's above Scott, though.
- 1:20:47Yeah, but Scott's been out longer.
- 1:20:49I had thirty-seven fourth-place finishes.
- 1:20:52What's that?
- 1:20:53Scott had thirty-seven
- 1:20:54fourth-place finishes.
- 1:20:56That's what it seems like.
- 1:21:07I don't know to me.
- 1:21:12I'd still have Brent above Scott.
- 1:21:16So Scott, wait till next time.
- 1:21:18I think Scott can wait, but that's me.
- 1:21:20Well, I mean, you still have.
- 1:21:23So who would you rather have
- 1:21:24in there in the second
- 1:21:25ballot for your third person?
- 1:21:28She wants to see all the names.
- 1:21:30That is all the names.
- 1:21:31No, there's two more.
- 1:21:33Okay.
- 1:21:33Okay.
- 1:21:36Yeah, she's not going to want them.
- 1:21:39Josh Bridges.
- 1:21:42It's a wait for me.
- 1:21:48He's closer to me to second
- 1:21:50ballot than Scott.
- 1:21:55I mean,
- 1:21:56he has a pretty big social media
- 1:21:58following.
- 1:21:58He has his podcast.
- 1:21:59He has The Rogue.
- 1:22:00He's got to pay the man.
- 1:22:02For me, when I was picking people like
- 1:22:05I'm looking for people who
- 1:22:07own an affiliate and have pushed that.
- 1:22:13And that's where, like, Ficality is.
- 1:22:17Are we talking about the
- 1:22:17affiliate or the sport now?
- 1:22:19That's two different things.
- 1:22:20We're talking about the affiliate.
- 1:22:23To me, they're one and the same.
- 1:22:26The true ones, like Froning, how he has –
- 1:22:31Meshed it together.
- 1:22:32Like that's what I want to see.
- 1:22:33And that's how I think we grow is those,
- 1:22:35those Meccas are huge.
- 1:22:43Lynn says hall of fame isn't
- 1:22:45based on family dynamics, though.
- 1:22:47It's contribution to the sport.
- 1:22:55Put them between when he
- 1:22:57says Scott never makes the hall of fame.
- 1:23:01No, Scott will.
- 1:23:03I'm just thinking.
- 1:23:09So what are we doing with Josh?
- 1:23:14I would assume he's waiting.
- 1:23:15I would think you would even
- 1:23:15put James Fitzgerald over him, right?
- 1:23:18I have James above him,
- 1:23:19but I'm thinking Kalipa out right now.
- 1:23:22That's why.
- 1:23:26But Kalipa was like very
- 1:23:28influential as well.
- 1:23:34Yep.
- 1:23:37So, Clint, he says,
- 1:23:38only champions make the
- 1:23:39first round of Hall of Fame.
- 1:23:40Right now,
- 1:23:41the only people in the ballots
- 1:23:43are champions.
- 1:23:44Correct.
- 1:23:45Well, I mean,
- 1:23:45Dave Castro is not a champion.
- 1:23:46That's true.
- 1:23:50Josh Bridges is not a champion.
- 1:23:52Right.
- 1:23:56Right.
- 1:23:57We got to get through this, guys.
- 1:23:58Let's go wait till next time for Josh,
- 1:24:00just because we do have
- 1:24:01champions minus Dave.
- 1:24:04And we have two more names.
- 1:24:06Chris Spieler.
- 1:24:07Wait.
- 1:24:08Wait.
- 1:24:12Although he was very
- 1:24:12influential for the small people.
- 1:24:14Kyle Casper.
- 1:24:14Wait.
- 1:24:15Carolyn.
- 1:24:16Wait.
- 1:24:18Yeah.
- 1:24:18Okay.
- 1:24:19So we're going to put James.
- 1:24:22I think that's everybody.
- 1:24:25So now we have champions.
- 1:24:27Brent.
- 1:24:31We'll take James.
- 1:24:32James.
- 1:24:33Yep.
- 1:24:35At least you don't have
- 1:24:36anyone that didn't win the games in here.
- 1:24:38Yep, there you go.
- 1:24:40Minus the obvious.
- 1:24:43But he created the games.
- 1:24:48Yeah.
- 1:24:49And advance a sport in so many,
- 1:24:51like the programming,
- 1:24:54the... I think about this
- 1:24:56Hall of Fame as it should be athletes.
- 1:24:59There should be another category.
- 1:25:02But Don Cherry's in the NHL Hall of Fame.
- 1:25:05Um, wasn't he a player?
- 1:25:07Well, he's known more for his mouth,
- 1:25:09right?
- 1:25:09Yeah.
- 1:25:09Um, but there's, there's sports,
- 1:25:14there's a media people in
- 1:25:16all the hall of fames.
- 1:25:19There are commissioners.
- 1:25:20There are,
- 1:25:22that's why I added those people in there.
- 1:25:25They should get like a first
- 1:25:26or second ballot,
- 1:25:27but I wanted it to be an option.
- 1:25:30Like to me, I would rather, uh,
- 1:25:37Keep the first ballot, second ballot,
- 1:25:39like the first Hall of Fame
- 1:25:40class to the athletes,
- 1:25:42and then you start
- 1:25:42introducing personalities
- 1:25:44and stuff like that.
- 1:25:48But the guy who invented it,
- 1:25:50it does make sense.
- 1:25:51I mean,
- 1:25:51the inventor of football is not in
- 1:25:54the Hall of Fame.
- 1:25:56I don't know.
- 1:25:57The inventor of hockey.
- 1:26:03Well, Greg isn't in it.
- 1:26:07He's the inventor of CrossFit.
- 1:26:09You're talking about the
- 1:26:10inventor of games.
- 1:26:11The games, yeah.
- 1:26:13But the guy who started the Super Bowl is.
- 1:26:18There you go.
- 1:26:22So anyway,
- 1:26:23so our final list is first
- 1:26:25ballot is Rich Froning, Matt Fraser,
- 1:26:27Ben Smith, Dave Castro.
- 1:26:29Second ballot, Jason Kalipa, Miko Salo,
- 1:26:32James Fitzgerald,
- 1:26:33and then a whole bunch of
- 1:26:35people in Wait Till Next Time.
- 1:26:37Right.
- 1:26:38Including Josh Bridges, Sagat Pancek,
- 1:26:40and Brent Fikowski,
- 1:26:41who seem to have the most
- 1:26:42love of the people who got
- 1:26:44Wait Till Next Time.
- 1:26:45Agreed.
- 1:26:49but that was fun.
- 1:26:51So next week we're going to
- 1:26:52do it with the women,
- 1:26:55which I think it may actually be tougher.
- 1:26:58Yeah.
- 1:26:59Other than Tia,
- 1:27:00there's no like long stretch champions.
- 1:27:03I mean, Katrin Annie.
- 1:27:05Yeah.
- 1:27:06That's two wins.
- 1:27:09It'll be tough.
- 1:27:10I think there's going to be a few.
- 1:27:12We definitely don't agree on.
- 1:27:14Okay.
- 1:27:15Julie Boucher has got a few podiums.
- 1:27:18There's a lot of names.
- 1:27:20Voight Miller.
- 1:27:21Sam Briggs.
- 1:27:23Clever.
- 1:27:26I think there's some good
- 1:27:27options in there.
- 1:27:28Yeah.
- 1:27:32So I will put together the list.
- 1:27:33Again,
- 1:27:34it'll be people who are retired or
- 1:27:36who I know are retired.
- 1:27:38Female coaches.
- 1:27:39I mean,
- 1:27:39right now we're just doing anything,
- 1:27:41I guess.
- 1:27:41Why did you not put coaches?
- 1:27:43Because coaches are kind of a new thing.
- 1:27:47And none of them are really retired.
- 1:27:49Okay.
- 1:27:51Fair.
- 1:27:52Until the guy from Mammoth
- 1:27:53just retired today or yesterday.
- 1:27:59So I guess Ben Bergeron retired.
- 1:28:03Oh, yeah.
- 1:28:05True.
- 1:28:05Would he take any of these seven places?
- 1:28:07He'd be a wait.
- 1:28:09I mean,
- 1:28:10his programming was so influential.
- 1:28:12Like, like what's everyone did.
- 1:28:15Everyone looked at the calm train program.
- 1:28:17His, he did play a role in, you know,
- 1:28:22coaching two champions.
- 1:28:24Like there's so many.
- 1:28:29And yeah, it's people,
- 1:28:31people could argue his position on.
- 1:28:34Yeah.
- 1:28:35His influence in the space.
- 1:28:37Like,
- 1:28:39During those years, it was huge.
- 1:28:41I agree.
- 1:28:42He had incredible influence in the space.
- 1:28:46Yeah.
- 1:28:48Yeah, I think this was fun.
- 1:28:51Yeah.
- 1:28:51And we'll rack it up again
- 1:28:52for next week for the women.
- 1:28:55And if you guys can think of
- 1:28:57anything else you want to
- 1:28:58play a game with like this,
- 1:29:00we'll do that throughout the offseason.
- 1:29:02And I like when Jamie and Carolyn fight.
- 1:29:08that's what the goal is I
- 1:29:10just think my definition of
- 1:29:12this is different agreed
- 1:29:14like I I want to see the
- 1:29:15athletes there like I think
- 1:29:16there's something wrong
- 1:29:17when we don't have all the
- 1:29:18athletes in here for the
- 1:29:19first ballot to me if you
- 1:29:22think we're wrong uh leave
- 1:29:24a comment in down below and
- 1:29:27I will check those out and
- 1:29:28read those this week and
- 1:29:29maybe we'll come back next
- 1:29:30week and review that before
- 1:29:32we hit the women
- 1:29:33Any comments that you guys
- 1:29:35may leave about who we
- 1:29:37picked to make the Hall of Fame?
- 1:29:39It looks like John Young
- 1:29:40left because you know he
- 1:29:41would have had opinions on all of this.
- 1:29:48But I think with that, that's everything.
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