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Rob Dauster on NCAA Tournament Expansion, Dick Jerardi talks Kentucky Derby & Trent's Picks presented by CIrca Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hi, Millory Condon, welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  We'll take you until low just before 2:00.
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  Off the bench, Sean Roberts, Lucas trained 2 until 5.
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  Overtime, Iowa, from 5:00 until 6:00.
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  Well, the Twin Cities the place to be tonight as far as the eye
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  of the sports world, the Jays and the Twins.
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  What do you think actual attendance is?
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  Well, if you. See, it's Toronto.
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  OK, some people that already planned the trip.
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  People apply, Yeah. The got to go to war.
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  The great white N will go to war in Minneapolis in April.
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  Absolutely. I told you a million times how
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  pumped I used to get to go to Grand Forks in January.
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  Go in the States. Tank top and shorts for all
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  those Canadians. Really.
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  In a balmy 38° tonight. So I I, I can't tell you how
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  much I look forward to going to A to the Dome because I knew I
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  was going to see, but just going to the states to watch baseball
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  and I know that they'll be a bunch of Blue Jays fans in
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  attendance. Now, obviously the focus of the
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  sports world will be on the NBA game and to Somo's questionable
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  Yes. Did you see that?
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  They're in trouble. They're in trouble.
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  Yeah. I thought they're in trouble.
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  Series, are they? No, I thought they're in trouble
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  up 31. What's the so the other day we
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  were kicking around the price for the Nuggets to come back and
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  on what's today, Thursday? So Tuesday's game they were -500
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  on the money line. Is that what they were the
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  Nuggets and you were trying to figure out would be better to
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  take them in the series now or just roll over?
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  What's the price on Denver tonight?
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  What kind of money are you getting?
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  -250. They're that big of a favorite.
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  Yes, yeah, they're 6 1/2 now and then it's going to.
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  Be 5 -, 500 again, that's come on boys, find a win and win.
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  Find a way to win a game. Well, how do what do they have
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  to do? Randall They.
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  Can't. They can't.
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  Win Randall has to go off like a 40 like yeah, 5 point game.
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  Yes. OK, so there's Step 1.
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  Randall plays. Are we getting close?
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  We got a long ways to go. Go get on.
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  Go Bear for his three. Yes, yeah, we're not talking
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  offensively, but he has to play again straight Djokic, make him
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  frustrated out there, piss him off, maybe he gets a tee,
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  something like that. Get it under, yeah, get him off
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  his game if that's possible. McDaniels.
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  Has to do something. Well, he'll get under their skin
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  'cause that's. That's his game.
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  Can Can you believe a guy? I mean, I grew up in the day of
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  the Enforcers. Bill Ampier like the the
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  physical. What a nasty son of a.
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  Gun Jade No Jade McDaniels. He weighs 180 lbs.
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  Yeah. No, no.
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  This guy, though, is about as big of an agitator as you're
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  going to find if he's playing in 1986 against the Pistons.
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  Oh my God, he's getting He wouldn't last, Would not last.
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  He needs to do those things though.
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  Get another skin, knock down some shots, probably put up 20
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  18. Yeah, OK.
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  De Somo, does he play? And if he does, what can he Can
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  he count on him for 20? Bones Highland, Mike.
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  Hodley Connelly. Connelly's got every now and
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  then he's turns back to hands of time and 'cause he's what, 38?
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  Is he 38 or 36? He is 38 years old.
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  Jesus He. Is an old man from BA stand.
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  He is, unless you're. LeBron yeah.
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  Nas Reed. Gotta get something out of
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  Nazrid and he's got that party, he's got that game.
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  Yes, yeah, he can have a 23 point performance knock down 563
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  point or something like that. We're asking a lot.
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  I mean the talk about threading the needle.
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  Whole jokers to 12 and. That's not, that's never gonna
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  happen. He's gonna get a triple, double,
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  Sure. It's just you need it.
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  Him shooting one of eight from three, taking too many 3
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  pointers, scoring 24 points, 14 rebounds and 10 assists.
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  Hope Jamal Murray has an off game.
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  I mean, you gotta ask for so much.
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  That's why I don't give much of a chance.
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  All right, so they're beat. What about the what's?
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  Going on ice. Let's go, Let's go on.
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  I think Minnesota wins ends the series tonight.
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  You're saying this is somebody who that watches hockey as much
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  as anybody? As soon as Quinn Hughes was
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  traded over to the Minnesota, while on that day, I was on
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  these airwaves with you and say this became a major, major
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  player. And then they got better and
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  tougher and bigger at the trade deadline.
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  Dallas loves to push everybody around.
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  They're not pushing anybody around on the wild.
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  One thing that I've noticed jumping in a week and a half
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  ago, Yeah, man, he's on the ice a lot.
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  Yes, I swear, every single time. Like sick guy ever take a break?
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  2628 minutes a game. It's incredible.
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  Just here in his name. Oh, there he is.
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  There, there. I thought he wait.
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  I thought he just had a shift. I thought they just changed.
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  He's still out there. That guy is out on the ice.
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  Something that is very much like myself, a very hockey novice.
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  That is one thing that jumped out.
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  Now I commit at a different perspective fan, but Minnesota
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  sports. Sure.
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  And that's the thing. And I thought, yeah, come on,
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  it's a thing. That is going to be a building
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  today. And you know, this kid, I, I go
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  back, this is the first time I really, I started to get the
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  memory and understanding, I guess, of a deeper level of
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  sports and how fan bases react. Cubs fans, I think you've known
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  that throughout your whole life. The black cat, just all the
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  different things. Obviously the Billy goat, you
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  grow a part of that. But it was some of those games
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  when the Red Sox started to become good in the mid 90s and
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  into the late 90s, and that feeling you would get anytime at
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  Fenway. It was just that sense, that
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  feeling that you can't describe it.
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  It's an aura that surrounds it. We're screwed.
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  Yeah, we're up. Fight.
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  And just that nervous energy that you can feel in the stands.
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  And I think they're going to be feeling it tonight in Saint
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  Paul. I think, yeah, probably.
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  That fan base, they need something good to happen.
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  Score the first goal and go absolutely nuts.
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  They get down 1 nothing in the 1st 7 minutes of the.
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  Like Montreal came out last night in Tampa Bay, 2 minutes in
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  the game, they're up 1 zip. They took the crowd right out of
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  the game. A.
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  Huge necessity, I think for Minnesota tonight because it's
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  not just the Wild, but they have their own failures.
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  It is about the state, the city, the failures of just overall
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  organizations in that state that have been so bad for so long and
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  not being able to get over the hump that that I think you're
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  going to feel it tonight. So just a different way of
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  watching and report back to me tonight.
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  Let's see if you if you get that same kind of feeling because I
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  do have a different feeling. And I'm going to be nervous even
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  though I don't care about hockey until April.
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  And then for me, it's done in April because the Wild get beat
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  in the first round. If you can feel the same kind of
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  thing that I am sensing we're going to feel in this stands
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  this. Evening, absolutely.
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  Look, I will cheer for the while tonight once the games over, and
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  if they do, when I'll go wash my mouth out with soap it.
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  Feels a little dirty to us, yes. I mean, yeah, but it's great for
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  this. It's great for, I think, look, I
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  don't think anybody is going to and run out and buy hockey
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  equipment for the kid, but you might buy tickets to go see the
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  Iowa Wild next winter. Did you get that opportunity?
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  Somebody's got your your company's going or whatever.
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  You might. Yeah.
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  You know what? It was pretty cool when I
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  watched it and a lot of these guys came up this way.
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  Maybe I'll go and and watch that and see it up close for the
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  first time. But it's a hell of a series.
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  Game 6 tonight, the Wild up three games to two, got a chance
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  to knock out the Dallas Stars, who legitimately have a chance.
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  One of three teams in the in the West and they're all in the same
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  division. Colorado can represent the West.
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  Dallas can represent the West. Minnesota can represent the
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  West. I don't give the Vegas gold
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  nicest shot. I don't give Utah a chance.
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  Edmonton, I don't think they're going to win.
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  Even if they do, if they get by the Ducks, whoever comes out of
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  the Pacific, I I just don't think they're anywhere close to
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  those other squads. Let's switch gears.
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  Let's talk some college basketball with a friend, Rob
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  Doster from the field of 68, Rob Trenton.
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  Ken, thank you for coming on. Anxious to hear your opinion on
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  this. I've I've seen a lot of national
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  guys in this, in this sport of coloring.
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  They're not sport business of covering college basketball kind
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  of poo poo in the idea. On the surface, I understand it.
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  I mean, it was so special at 64 that it was 68.
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  But isn't the bottom line all about the almighty buck in the
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  way that college, whether it be football or basketball and all
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  these NIL payments, etcetera. Everybody's trying to find money
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  at the end of the day. When Thursday rolls around and
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  you're, you know, it's 12:20 Eastern, 11:20 central time zone
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  Thursday for the, you know, quote, official beginning of the
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  tournament. Won't we forget about what
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  happened the two days prior? Hold on, are you trying to tell
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  me that you're in? You want to expand the
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  tournament? I get the money aspect.
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  Of it where where we stop at Ken, where we stop, we going to
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  76, we going to 82, we going to 130.
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  Eight, yes, I think sadly, unfortunately it's going to get
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  to that part because it's all about TV, right?
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  And if you can, if you can get these networks to write checks
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  at all the all the schools that are trying all the conferences.
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  I mean, the big twelves get in business with private equity.
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  They never would have done that in the past as everybody tries
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  to find new revenue streams. I just think that, you know,
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  college football, nobody wanted the playoff was going to ruin
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  the regular season. Well, it didn't.
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  It's three extra games on Tuesday, three extra games on
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  Wednesday. None of those teams that win are
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  going to have an impact on that tournament.
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  I get that it ruins the office bracket pool because the
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  brackets kind of, you know, it goes the way the dodo bird, but
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  it's a about money as I see it. That's how I see it.
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  Don't love it, but I understand the circumstances.
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  Here, here's what I think we should do.
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  OK, this is how I think we should expand the tournament.
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  I I think it's unfair that we don't allow every single team to
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  be a part of it. So I think that we, we let all
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  365 days you want teams be a part of the tournament.
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  But I think that the way that you need to break it up is to be
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  able to be manageable is to go conference by conference to
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  start, right? Because that's the only you
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  can't have a 365 team bracket. So every conference then plays
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  their plays a tournament to be able to get into the NCAA
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  tournament. And then we use the winners of
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  those tournaments to be able to field a bigger tournament.
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  But since we want to make sure that we have enough of these
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  other big conference teams, why don't we just let them pick who
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  they want to also be a part of this tournament?
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  And then we can have we can even call them like at large bids or
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  something like that to be able to get to like a normal sized
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  bracket. That's what I think we should do
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  down breaking revolutionary. I'm good with that.
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  You just got to find money somewhere and that's how I see
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  this, the these additional teams that have been added to the
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  bracket. Rob, do you know how much money
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  there is? Because I know for a while and
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  the reason that this has been out there for 3-4 years now
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  about this expansion is the TP partners were not exactly
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  willing to overspend for these kind of games.
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  Any idea what that's going to look like?
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  Or is that still a negotiation that has to happen once this
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  becomes official? I don't think that the TV
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  partners are getting more money or are paying more money.
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  Yeah, this is not something where like CBS has six more
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  years on the deal, right? You can add more teams, but that
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  doesn't mean that CBS has to pay for them.
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  But that doesn't mean Turner has to pay for them.
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  That's more money coming in like this is this.
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  I don't think that this is a a play where more revenue is
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  coming into the NCAA from permanent stuff.
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  I think that more than anything, this is a measure of protection
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  against the SEC and the Big 10 saying, oh, you want to let us
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  won't allow us to have 85% of our conferences in the NCAA
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  tournament. I'm taking my ball and I'm going
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  home and I'm not playing in your tournament.
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  We're going to go start our own tournament because we want to be
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  able to have all of our teams in the tournament.
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  I think more than anything is that this isn't in in the next 6
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  years. This isn't going to make the
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  NCAA more money from the the deal that they already have.
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  If anything, it's going to cost the money because now you have
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  to be able to pay for the buildings that you're going to
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  be playing these games in, whether that's playing like six
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  games in two days. And Dayton are creating two
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  other sites that you have playing games get get hosted.
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  You're going to have to pay for the charter flights to get those
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  teams there and then get the winners to the places that
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  they're going to end up being. You're going to have to pay for
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  referees. You're going to have to pay for
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  everything that it comes with broadcasting games.
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  It's this is going to cost the NCAA money, not make the NCAA
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  more money. This the way from my
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  understanding of the situation. So I won't we'll see how all
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  that plays out. But I think more than anything,
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  this was a defensive measure against teams from those bigger
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  conferences not being a part of the NCAA anymore.
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  And then also an issue where like I think that the people
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  that want this to happen are the coaches, because more coaches
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  get into the tournament means less coaches that are going to
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  end up getting fired. And more bonuses for making the
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  tournament. Well, yeah, and it's like the
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  way it is right now is that there's going to be 8 high major
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  coaches that are going to be that much further away from
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  being on the hot seat because they have a way to be able to
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  get a bid to the NCAA tournament as a playing game 13 seed.
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  Where the hell they're going to end up here doing here Now it's
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  conferences that are going to have, you know, I think he's
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  been major leagues have talked themselves into the idea that
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  this is going to provide more opportunity for them to get at
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  large bids, even though we all know that is just absolute
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  insanity. There's no way that that's going
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  to be how this plays out. And then it is the the schools
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  and the athletic directors that realize like, hey, you know
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  what, if our guys are on the hot, that's fewer buyouts that
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  we're going to have to pay. So it's, it's all the people in
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  this sport. I understand why they all want
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  it. My question is who outside of
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  like athletic directors and coaches want this to happen or
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  who are you trying to serve if you're the NCAA making this
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  decision like it's not the consumer?
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  Because I think it's been pleasantly clear that this is
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  not something that fans want to have happen.
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  So that's that's the part of it that frustrates me.
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  Well, the degenerate gamblers like myself like it.
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  It's a little bit more to fire at late night games.
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  I like that part of it. But yeah, I know we're certainly
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  in the. I don't know.
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  I think that probably that helps into it.
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  Oh yeah, that helps legalize sports betting.
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  Rob, one question that I have now, every 16 seed will play in
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  to get into the main bracket. That means also wind shares that
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  go along with it. There's also been conversation
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  though about a changing of the structure of those wind shares
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  where a win in the first round means just as much as a win as
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  you advance on and how important that is for the little guy.
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  Not even the mid majors, we're talking about the Missouri
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  Valley and it's important to them.
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  But those low major references that are out there.
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  Any update on the structure and the units that are given four
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  wins in the tournament and if that's going to be changing?
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  I mean, yes, it's going to help and it's going to make sure that
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  some of those teams get more money.
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  But you're also now like teams that were 15 seeds are now 16
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  seed playing game teams, right? Teams that were 14 seeds are now
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  15 seed playing games, which means teams that are 13 seeds
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  are now 14. Teams that are 12 that were 12
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  are now 13. And it makes it you're going to
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  have six major teams that are guaranteed to be able to win
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  games, but you're also now making it that much more likely
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  that the other mid majors have an opportunity to win games.
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  And that's before you consider the impact that that NIL is
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  having on trying to eliminate the the Cinderella already,
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  because it's that much more difficult for some of these
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  smaller programs to compete as it stands.
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  So it's I don't think that the people that are trying to spin
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  this as this is going to be a good thing for money coming into
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  the low managers like one, what is a wind chair going to do when
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  Louisville's got 20,000,000 whatever dollars to spend,
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  right? It's not there's not going to be
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  an impact on it. And to the the idea that this is
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  a good thing for the mids because they can win more money
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  in those first games completely ignores the fact that like
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  everything else about this is kind of poorly structured for
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  the mid managers. That's I.
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  I can't get behind that. Argument all right, I am now off
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  of my argument because if that's the case that they're not going
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  to get any more money, you're going to ask them to play extra
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  games and the CBS is just going to status quo then then no, I'm
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  back. I'm on your side on this one.
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  We'll we'll see where that thing goes.
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  So what about obviously Dayton can't host them?
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  All I know that Vegas is putting together.
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  They've got a committee out there that goes after these big
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  events like this, the Final Four, like the Super Bowl,
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  etcetera. They got right to work trying to
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  be the West Coast. Quote Dayton, if you will.
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  I'm not sure I can say Dayton and Vegas in the same sentence,
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  but you get my point. But Vegas wants it.
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  Does that make sense to you? Vegas for college basketball
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  games, for tournament games. Seems that I'll be honest, I'm
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  not the biggest like Las Vegas fan, right?
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  Like I just when especially when the nerd went there, I think
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  that it becomes a cluster, it becomes a disaster.
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  So I. Don't think you heard my comment
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  there, Doster. I'll just give you a crap about
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  not love in Vegas because Ken and I absolutely do love Vegas
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  and we have a different perspective.
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  On So It's Not Vegas Where though?
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  Rob what? What?
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  To it's got to be a hub, right? It's got to be Dayton.
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  Is Dayton easy to get to? I mean flight wise.
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  I mean, it's not that far from Cincinnati and Cincinnati is
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  relatively easy to get to. What I think that they should do
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  is I think that they should take two other historical venues like
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  take Fog, Allen's Field House and the Palestra, or do it at
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  the Kennel and do it like so you could have one in the middle of
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  the country in Dayton. You could have one on the West
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  Coast in Spokane. You could have one on the East
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  Coast in the Palestra. And then the teams that would
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  advance to someone in the East region would play in the East
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  and the teams that would advance somewhere the Midwest playing
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  the Midwest. To me, that's what I would do if
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  I was doing I would I wouldn't do it Vegas.
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  Also what I would actually do, and I think that this would
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  actually make it a little bit more palatable to expand the
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  tournament is instead of having just playing games, make these
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  belittle like playing Mt ES where you have you have four
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  teams in a site and then you play 2 games on the Tuesday and
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  you play the winners play on the Wednesday.
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  And then all those those four teams advance to a spot in the
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  bracket that would play on a Friday and make them play their
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  way into the tournament by playing A4 game MTE.
• 18:36
  That's what I would do if I was the one making these decisions,
• 18:39
  but I'm not the one making these decisions.
• 18:40
  They don't even ask me if they want about my opinion on these
• 18:43
  because if they would, it would be a standard determined.
• 18:46
  So I got a question here on the regional front.
• 18:48
  We got our listeners over in the quads cities and plenty of line
• 18:51
  eye fans over there. I have seen it's not consensus,
• 18:53
  but so many people have them. Number two, number three, I
• 18:56
  don't think I've seen them outside of everybody's top five.
• 19:00
  Tell me about the backcourt. Love the frontcourt.
• 19:02
  I think we all do. And if you consider Stroakovich
• 19:04
  part of that frontcourt, tell me about the backcourt and why this
• 19:07
  should be a team we expect to be a return trip to the Final Four
• 19:11
  for them and maybe even a step more.
• 19:15
  So I I have very real questions about Illinois that like I don't
• 19:18
  know if Illinois has a point guard.
• 19:20
  So so the thing about it is though, like they have guys that
• 19:25
  can be initiators. And here's where I'm trying to
• 19:28
  wrap my head around it. When it comes to what they're
• 19:30
  going to be this season. They they have like Steph box is
• 19:33
  the guy that can make plays off the balance, that can make plays
• 19:36
  in ball screen that can pass like this goal for himself.
• 19:38
  Not the same as Keaton waggle, but like not world different
• 19:43
  from Keaton waggle. The status last season, they
• 19:46
  have a guy named Quentin Coleman who is a freshman off the bench
• 19:49
  that can do some of those same things.
• 19:52
  Dovin Mirkovich is a guy that averaged multiple assists per
• 19:55
  game this past season, right? Like they have things that can
• 19:59
  do different things. On the floor, where as long as
• 20:02
  they can get the ball into their half court offense, they're
• 20:05
  buying into the idea that the offensive ecosystem that they
• 20:09
  have in the half court is going to be enough to allow them to
• 20:11
  score regardless of whether or not they have like a pure point
• 20:14
  guard on the floor. Because they don't they don't
• 20:16
  have it. There's not a guy in the roster
• 20:18
  that does that. And I get it.
• 20:20
  Like, I understand the thought process.
• 20:22
  I understand thinking. I get where Brad Underwood is
• 20:26
  coming from when he's trying to build this roster.
• 20:29
  How effective is it going to be? I, I kind of want to see how
• 20:33
  that plays out when, when, when you don't have a great lead
• 20:37
  guard, right? And I can't look at you and say
• 20:40
  that you're going to be one of the best defensive teams in
• 20:42
  college basketball. It's a little bit hard for me to
• 20:44
  get behind the idea that you are a top five team in the sport
• 20:48
  when Duke has loaded up and Uconn's loaded up and Michigan's
• 20:51
  loaded up and these other teams have loaded up.
• 20:53
  So I've got back and we got a guy on our network and Mike with
• 20:56
  Tulip who is an Illinois fan and played for Illinois.
• 21:01
  And me and him are going back and forth on this idea multiple
• 21:03
  times about whether or not this is something that is going to
• 21:06
  end up working. And he thinks it's going to
• 21:09
  work. And I'm kind of like, I, I'm
• 21:11
  going to play the wait and see game here before I fully buy
• 21:15
  into this idea, but I don't know, I, I can see them being
• 21:19
  really, really good. I could also see them being like
• 21:21
  like I don't want to say middle of the table, but like maybe
• 21:25
  middle of the top 25 like a A3 or a four seed if it doesn't
• 21:29
  work out the way that they kind of hope.
• 21:31
  Last thing for me, Duke signed with Amazon today.
• 21:34
  They're going to play Gonzaga, they can play Michigan, they're
• 21:36
  going to play UConn, and all those games will be broadcast on
• 21:39
  Amazon. Any of the idea, the financials
• 21:42
  surrounding that, Rob. Go look at who Duke signed this
• 21:46
  summer. Think about the amount of money
• 21:48
  it costs to sign and retain a lot of those players.
• 21:51
  And then think about the amount of money that a place like
• 21:53
  Amazon would pay to be able to exclusively broadcast the game
• 22:00
  between Duke and the reigning national champions.
• 22:03
  A game between Duke and Gonzaga and a rematch of last year's
• 22:08
  instant classic, one of the best college basketball games that
• 22:10
  we've seen in a very, very, very long time between Duke and
• 22:13
  UConn. This is it's an NIO play.
• 22:15
  That's all that money coming in that they can use to be able to
• 22:18
  play paint players, to be able to to sign them, to be able to
• 22:22
  add them. Like they just got a kid from
• 22:24
  Barcelona who's who's not even 17 yet named Joaquim Boom Boom.
• 22:30
  I don't know if you guys remember this name Ruben Boom
• 22:32
  Boom. It's his son who has a chance to
• 22:35
  be a lottery pick, maybe even a top five pick in the 2028 draft.
• 22:40
  He's the guy that he has to play two years in college, but he
• 22:43
  averaged like 16 points in 2020 in 21 minutes playing for La
• 22:48
  Ligas. Like U23, they call it Liga U,
• 22:51
  It's La Ligas. It's the Spanish professional
• 22:54
  league's under 23 division. And that kid was wanted by
• 22:59
  everybody and he was not cheap. And that he's going to be riding
• 23:03
  that. They got him on a 2 year deal.
• 23:05
  He's going to be riding the bench run this year.
• 23:06
  And that's when you consider they've also added Cam, yeah,
• 23:11
  Cam Williams. They, they brought in Ganga
• 23:12
  back. They, they, they've, they've got
• 23:16
  a number of really, really talented freshmen coming in.
• 23:18
  Like you have to be able to find ways to get creative to pay for
• 23:23
  the talent that you have on that roster.
• 23:25
  And that is exactly what Duke is doing with this deal.
• 23:28
  But. Only on the local front.
• 23:30
  TJ Alzenberger signs an extension with Iowa State, $6
• 23:33
  million a year, 7th on the national list now of highest
• 23:36
  paid coaches. The Cyclone coach has done a
• 23:39
  great job, 10 year contract extension.
• 23:41
  Your thoughts on that? And Portal went out, identified
• 23:44
  his guys, and he was done in a weekend.
• 23:48
  Yeah, I mean, look, give TJ whatever he wants, whatever it
• 23:52
  is, I don't care because one, I think he's probably still
• 23:55
  underpaid. 2, he just said no to North Carolina without so much
• 23:59
  as getting an interview. He said no to North Carolina,
• 24:02
  the Tar Heels to stay in AIDS without even like, considering
• 24:06
  there wasn't even a thought there.
• 24:07
  There wasn't even like an actual interview.
• 24:09
  He was just like, yeah, you know what?
• 24:10
  Don't even look for me. Ain't I ain't coming.
• 24:13
  It's not me. I'm not the guy.
• 24:15
  Give him whatever he wants, man. And if he's only asking, I'm
• 24:18
  meaningless legitimately. If he's only asking for $6
• 24:21
  million, that's a steal for what TJ Altsberger's been so far in
• 24:25
  in Ames. A ridiculous idea to go to 76,
• 24:28
  as we said when we first brought you on.
• 24:30
  Look at you. Hey, you can teach another.
• 24:33
  That's stubborn. I did not know there was no
• 24:35
  extra money involved. Rob Doster, you've convinced me.
• 24:38
  Great to talk to you, buddy. Appreciate you coming on field
• 24:40
  of 68. Good.
• 24:42
  I'm glad we got you. We got you on the right side.
• 24:44
  We got you on. I needed to make sure that's the
• 24:46
  whole reason I came on today was to get you back on the right
• 24:49
  side of his. Mission accomplished, my friend.
• 24:51
  Thanks, Rob. We'll talk down the road.
• 24:53
  See you, buddy. See.
• 24:54
  Ya later, fellas. Good to talk to you Rob Doster,
• 24:56
  as we talk college hoop. So Illinois is a factor this
• 24:59
  year, huh? I need proof of concept when you
• 25:04
  got questions like that in the back court.
• 25:06
  Love the front guard. Sure.
• 25:08
  Djokovic is he's in the he's testing the NBA waters, right?
• 25:12
  Yeah, that's a big. That's a big.
• 25:14
  You got the brothers back. They're they're big up front.
• 25:18
  Big up front last year, bigger with a year's experience.
• 25:21
  Another year's experience under the belt.
• 25:23
  All right, we'll talk Derby next.
• 25:25
  Come on back, we will pick. Dick Girardi's brains Covered it
• 25:28
  for decades. Another scratch this morning.
• 25:34
  Of course, I'd like too. But nonetheless, we'll talk
• 25:36
  Derby on the other side, Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports
• 25:39
  Radio Network. I'm Miller Condon, Welcome back.
• 25:44
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. We'll take you until 2O clock.
• 25:48
  Trent's plays of the day coming up, Circus sports sponsor those
• 25:53
  about 10 minutes or so before 2O clock.
• 25:55
  But let's talk Derby before that, shall we?
• 25:57
  Dick Girardi's covered handfuls of them in his newspaper career.
• 26:02
  Now speaking on behalf of BetOnline, dot AG and he joins
• 26:06
  us to break down the 152nd, A run for the Roses.
• 26:09
  Dick Trenton, Kenton, Des Moines, thanks for coming on.
• 26:11
  How are things with you Dick all?
• 26:14
  Good guys yourself. Doing well, you know, before we
• 26:17
  get into the Derby. I just had someone call during
• 26:19
  the brace at break and ask to ask you, do you have an Oaks
• 26:23
  pick for tomorrow? It's prime time.
• 26:26
  They're going to run it under the lights of Churchill NBC at
• 26:29
  night. Do you have an Oaks pick?
• 26:31
  Very hard race it is. I like the I like the one
• 26:34
  Explorer and the four counting stars, but man, you can make a
• 26:39
  case there's fourteen in here. We've had a couple scratches and
• 26:42
  all the also eligibles are now in, but man what a hard race.
• 26:45
  Yeah, Cassie loves his horse Counting Stars.
• 26:48
  I'm going to use him as well. So let's get to the Derby.
• 26:51
  Couple of defections in there, including one this morning that
• 26:55
  like I was kind of in, I know Cox has three and this was the
• 26:59
  one that was flying under the radar.
• 27:00
  The full effort. I gave him an outside chance.
• 27:04
  I know that he's, you know, running on the whatever they
• 27:08
  call it, but the synthetic and now he's back on the dirt,
• 27:13
  obviously. Churchill, did you like him at
• 27:15
  all, Dick? He's not going to run, but does
• 27:16
  that change the way you see things?
• 27:19
  It doesn't change the way I see things, but yeah, I think he was
• 27:21
  a marginal contender for sure. And there's a great profit bet
• 27:25
  online that any Brad Coxworth win and that price has now I'm
• 27:29
  sure gone up. It was 9 to 5 because he's got
• 27:32
  obviously the Bluegrass winner and he's got the Florida Derby
• 27:35
  winner. But yeah, it would have been a
• 27:36
  better bet. You also had the Jeff Ruby
• 27:38
  Stakes, where we had three major prep winners and one bet on a
• 27:42
  prop bet. That would have been nice.
• 27:43
  Any what jumps out to you about this field as a whole?
• 27:48
  What do you look at it a lot of strong contenders overall?
• 27:51
  Is it a deep field? Is it a shorter field?
• 27:53
  How do you kind of grade through all the different horses when
• 27:56
  you put them into a group? Very consistent and deep.
• 28:00
  I'd say it goes 678 horses deep. You could make a case for the
• 28:05
  top three in the Florida Derby. Clearly the Arkansas Derby
• 28:09
  Winter Renegade Bluegrass stakes winner further ado.
• 28:13
  I mean, they're just all and they all kind of look similar.
• 28:17
  They're all pretty consistent. It's not like they run a really
• 28:19
  terrible race and then run a good one.
• 28:21
  They're the most consistent horse of the bunch is
• 28:23
  Commandment is 1/3 in a row or for, excuse me, four in a row.
• 28:27
  But yeah, it's it's a good group.
• 28:29
  But what sticks out is there's no like obvious star, right?
• 28:33
  There's no Justify or American Pharaoh, those kind of horses
• 28:37
  this year. But that doesn't mean it's not
• 28:39
  going to be a good race. I'm sure it will be.
• 28:41
  Absolutely. So back in February when
• 28:43
  emerging market broke his maiden, I went to my Equibase
• 28:46
  virtual stable and I put his name in there and I'm and in the
• 28:49
  comments I put is it too late to get to the Derby?
• 28:52
  Well, as we know, it's not too late to get to the Derby.
• 28:54
  He come back and he came back and won the Louisiana Derby
• 28:57
  numbers went down. I think he's sitting on a big
• 28:59
  one. I love the way that he's
• 29:00
  training. I don't think I'm going to get
• 29:02
  15 to one. I've been touting emerging
• 29:04
  market to anyone that will listen.
• 29:06
  How do you feel about the 15 the Louisiana Derby winner Emerging
• 29:10
  market? Definitely contender.
• 29:12
  I mean you have one of the best jockey trainer combos in the in
• 29:15
  the world and flabby Pratt and Chad Brown.
• 29:18
  So you take that into consideration.
• 29:20
  But the two races is concerning, but it's not as concerning as it
• 29:24
  used to be right. The resources come in here, so
• 29:26
  likely race. That's one of the next things
• 29:28
  that's going to flaw. Remember when justify 1 you
• 29:31
  couldn't win if you hadn't raced 3 year old?
• 29:32
  Well, all he all he did was win the Triple Crown.
• 29:35
  So obviously that one's out. So now I think I think he's a
• 29:38
  contender. I'm not sure.
• 29:40
  I didn't. I love Louisiana Derby.
• 29:42
  I mean, I didn't hate it, but it took him a long time to go by
• 29:45
  Pavlovy and there's going to be a long shot on Saturday.
• 29:47
  That's a little bit of a concern.
• 29:49
  But if the trainer thinks he's good enough to get here and he's
• 29:52
  not the kind of guy that just goes, if he doesn't think
• 29:54
  they're good enough, he waits for the freakness.
• 29:56
  That tells me a lot. So yeah, I think you might be on
• 29:58
  to something. Dick, some big picture things
• 30:01
  for you. Yesterday Dan Wilkin of Yahoo
• 30:04
  had an article talking about betting algorithms and and the
• 30:07
  way that that is changing horse betting.
• 30:09
  Also a story today on ESPN talking about a couple of the
• 30:13
  new emerging markets that are out there with the Cal she's of
• 30:16
  the world and the Poly market. They do not right now offer
• 30:20
  wagering on the dirt, yet they offer things on everything,
• 30:24
  including things that you can manipulate.
• 30:25
  But that's a conversation for a different day if you can.
• 30:28
  You've been in this space for such a long time, Dick.
• 30:31
  Just the changing of this market and how things as everything
• 30:34
  evolves, horse racing having to evolve along with it.
• 30:37
  Yeah, I would recommend Dan's story to everybody.
• 30:39
  I thought he did a really good job of explaining the computer
• 30:42
  assisted wagering groups. Basically, it's maybe 10 or 15
• 30:46
  groups around the country that feed an incredible amount of
• 30:49
  data. And then the data is basically
• 30:52
  telling them what the bet, how much the bet, and they're
• 30:55
  probably responsible for 30 to 40% of the total handle on North
• 30:58
  American racing. So they obviously have a
• 31:00
  gigantic influence on the odds. The biggest problem for regular
• 31:04
  players like me is that they can bet at the last.
• 31:07
  They have the last shot at it and all of a sudden you think
• 31:10
  you're betting on a 10 to one shot and then they go off and
• 31:12
  he's 3 to one. That's a little disconcerting.
• 31:15
  I've made a study myself trying to figure out what, you know,
• 31:18
  what kind of horses do they like?
• 31:20
  They love early speed horses. So that's taking me a little bit
• 31:23
  elsewhere and I just try to find something.
• 31:26
  If I can find something in a race, that's something I really
• 31:29
  should only know that there's no data that they're going to know.
• 31:32
  Maybe it's 40 years worth of history that I have.
• 31:34
  Those are the kind of horses I really like to bet on because I
• 31:37
  don't I don't think they're going to go there because you
• 31:39
  can't beat those, those groups because they're just so
• 31:41
  sophisticated. So you just try to stay, stay
• 31:43
  away from them if you can. Yeah.
• 31:45
  And they're, they're playing obviously for the rebates as
• 31:47
  well as they get a much bigger rebate than if even if there
• 31:50
  are, they are still available. And I think the, the, the
• 31:53
  prediction Mark is that Trent was mentioning.
• 31:55
  I think that they're playing nice because I could see this
• 31:58
  coming, a full-fledged betting exchange.
• 32:00
  They tried it in New Jersey, but it didn't happen.
• 32:02
  So I want to get back to the race with you.
• 32:04
  I want to ask you about the 2 Japanese horses.
• 32:07
  One of one of these years we've seen the impact they've had on
• 32:09
  the Breeders Cup. One of these years, one of them
• 32:12
  is going to win the Kentucky Derby.
• 32:14
  I think Dan and Bourbons got a big chance to be a factor this
• 32:16
  year. And you know, I, I did a podcast
• 32:19
  with a group of guys that and I, you know, my first question,
• 32:22
  well, don't we just throw 1 Jordine out?
• 32:24
  He can't win. And all three of them came back
• 32:26
  and said no, no, no, no, no, no, tap the brakes.
• 32:28
  What about the two invaders from across the pond, the seven and
• 32:32
  the 10? Will you play them?
• 32:35
  I'm going to play Dan and Bourbon.
• 32:36
  He's my the non bourbon. He is actually my choice.
• 32:40
  I'll start. I'll start with the other one.
• 32:41
  I just think he's too slow. If you match up the time of the
• 32:45
  UAE Derby with the Dubai World Cup, it's probably about 15
• 32:48
  buyer points slower. According to my buddy Randy
• 32:51
  Moss, who works with us on the buyer figures, that's only about
• 32:54
  in 94. That's not going to be good
• 32:55
  enough. The non bourbon.
• 32:57
  However, when you watch the videos of his races, it's just
• 33:00
  dazzling. It's like I and I, there's
• 33:02
  Japanese websites where you can watch all this stuff and you
• 33:05
  just it's like one of those where you know, you see a great
• 33:08
  athlete and all of a sudden he's just like different than all the
• 33:10
  others. That's kind of how I saw him.
• 33:13
  But my thing, I wanted data to prove what my eyes were seeing.
• 33:16
  So I looked up again on the Japanese Rep, the Japanese
• 33:20
  racing website, they show all the times that were on that
• 33:24
  particular day at different distances and his times match up
• 33:27
  very, very well. Like he's 2 seconds faster than
• 33:30
  the other horses running a mile an eighth and horse racing 2
• 33:33
  seconds is forever. Yeah, the Japanese are going to
• 33:36
  win this race and I'm hoping it's at 7:00 Saturday night with
• 33:40
  the non bourbon news that it's sitting about.
• 33:43
  Think about 13 to one at bet online at the moment.
• 33:46
  He maybe goes off 15 to one. But yeah, I I've been super
• 33:49
  impressed. And look, the downside is the
• 33:51
  jockey and the trainer have 0 familiarity with the American
• 33:54
  racing and it's a little chaotic because it's the 20 horse field
• 33:57
  and all that, but you can't account for that.
• 33:59
  Anyway, I'm just hoping he'd come out of the first turn
• 34:01
  somewhere in the top five and I'll take my chance.
• 34:04
  What? What about the fact that he runs
• 34:05
  races on a track that runs him clockwise?
• 34:08
  Of course it's counter clockwise here.
• 34:12
  Is that right? It it is, and keep in mind it's
• 34:15
  the same thing a lot of the European grass horses do and
• 34:18
  when they come over here they don't have any problems beating
• 34:20
  grass horses. They absolutely crush 11 more
• 34:24
  for me. I got to ask you about So happy
• 34:26
  I I'm not including this horse yet.
• 34:28
  He's being pounded at the windows.
• 34:30
  So happy the California Santa Anita Derby win are your
• 34:33
  thoughts. Yeah, I'm a little surprised by
• 34:36
  the amount of money that's coming in on them.
• 34:38
  Look, I thought his race Insanity Derby was fine.
• 34:41
  I just didn't think it was as good as some of the other prep
• 34:43
  races. I thought the Florida Derby is
• 34:45
  the American horses. To me, Commandment is the most
• 34:48
  logical horse to run well because he always runs well.
• 34:52
  But yeah, I'd make so happy a marginal contender.
• 34:55
  But yeah, if he's going to bet like get that, like that he's
• 34:58
  been better early. That's just crazy.
• 35:00
  So for us novices that are out there, you want to play around,
• 35:04
  you got a couple in your pocket, you want to bet, What would you
• 35:07
  suggest to people that want to have some fun, maybe get a big
• 35:10
  ticket out of it? What's kind of the best way for
• 35:13
  people that just don't know horse racing the same way to get
• 35:15
  involved and still have a fun and maybe that lottery ticket?
• 35:19
  So so 7 to win. That's the non bourbon, that's
• 35:22
  for sure. A little 718 exactly with
• 35:25
  further ado. I think it's going to run very
• 35:27
  well. And maybe if you just want to
• 35:29
  cash a ticket, that's commandment to show.
• 35:30
  I think he's going to be. I'd be surprised if he's not the
• 35:34
  top three, but yeah, those are some fun things to fool around
• 35:36
  with and have fun on dirty day. Absolutely Dick Girardi, good
• 35:39
  stuff. Appreciate your insights into
• 35:41
  this race as we always do. Can't wait for it to take place.
• 35:44
  You know what, one more. Just real quick since I have
• 35:46
  you. It sounds as though they're that
• 35:49
  they're starting to for the first time, maybe take moving
• 35:51
  the the length of time between races a little bit more
• 35:55
  seriously. Push the Preakness back a week,
• 35:57
  push the Belmont. Look, I get it for some of the
• 36:00
  the old school, no, it's not the same blah blah, blah.
• 36:02
  Well, things change. Do you think this is going to
• 36:05
  happen, Dick, that eventually the Preakness will be 3 weeks
• 36:08
  after the Derby? Or maybe it's the first Saturday
• 36:11
  in June and the Belmont the first Saturday in July.
• 36:13
  Do you think we're headed that way?
• 36:15
  We are and that would be my preference on what you just
• 36:18
  said. I think we'll know more,
• 36:20
  obviously, after this year's Preakness with the new Pimlico
• 36:23
  arising from, you know, they tore it down.
• 36:26
  It should be ready to go next year.
• 36:27
  Yeah, I think they're going to change the schedule because
• 36:29
  look, the Preakness is a great race, but it's not the same race
• 36:32
  without the Derby wins. And they've missed the Derby
• 36:34
  winner 2 out of the last five years, and that's that's no
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  good. So yeah, I think they're going
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  to have to move it back. And to me, 4 weeks and four
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  weeks would be great. You can have some pushback from
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  Naira because obviously they would like the Belmont Stakes to
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  stay similar to where it is to not mess with Saratoga.
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  But yeah, I think we're heading in that direction when it
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  happens. Exactly.
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  I would think it probably would probably happened before next
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  year, but we'll see. That online AD, Dick.
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  Dick Girardi. Thank you, Dick.
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  Appreciate it. We'll talk to you down the road.
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  See you. You got it.
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  Thanks. Guys enjoy the Derby and a few
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  folks out there want to watch in wager. 6:00 post time.
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  Prairie Meadows watching Wager right there.
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  Dannon Bourbon. Interesting.
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  He's on that horse. I'm on that horse.
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  You're on that horse I am on. A lot of people are on that
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  horse. Not too many, though.
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  I hope not. Our fine listeners, of course.
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  Yes, if. Right, you just make you a
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  little bit of money, but just don't tell your friends
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  anywhere. Else ourselves. 1/4 before 2.
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  What was your record yesterday? I had to duck out a little early
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  and I did not hear your plays yesterday.
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  Did you have a winning day or take a guess?
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  Well, how many did you have? Eight, you're four and four
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  again. Did you have the right juice or
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  did you lose a little? We had the right juice, but.
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  It could have been so much better mentioned at the top.
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  The Mammoth. The Mammoth plus 141 at Circa,
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  by the way, the big places out there plus 1/30.
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  I was also. On the Penguins.
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  To worry. Trent they controlled overtime.
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  Yes, I was. And and just looking at shots on
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  gold it was unreal. What are they up 12?
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  Yes, throughout. When I started watching the 3rd
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  just they dominated. Yep.
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  I just couldn't get one. And just like that.
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  Yep. Blink of an eye.
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  Then there's your hands. That celebration was cool,
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  though. Yeah, it always you can see that
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  there was. Oh, yeah.
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  Philly's. Not want to see celebration look
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  at the the Saint Paul tonight. Yes, that would be.
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  Next level, because what was it, 2001 or 2021 the last time the
• 38:29
  Flyers, I think, advanced? That's fine.
• 38:30
  Flyers. Yeah, right.
• 38:31
  We're talking a dozen years for the Wild.
• 38:35
  Could happen tonight. They are one win away from
• 38:37
  punching their ticket to take on Colorado I.
• 38:41
  Am involved in a little hockey tonight.
• 38:43
  Well, we're not going to do. That now we're going to take a
• 38:45
  break and come back. Circus Sports sponsors Trent's
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  plays of the day. They are next.
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  Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  I'm Miller and Condon. Welcome back Iowa Sports Radio
• 38:56
  Network watching Logan Jones on Sports Center open up holes that
• 39:03
  they're doing I guess doing a piece on the Bears what's her
• 39:06
  name Courtney Cronin. I think the bears are Bears
• 39:08
  report she's very good by the way and whatever she other shows
• 39:12
  that she fills in on your place of the day.
• 39:15
  So how many are you going forward with today?
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  We got eight more, 8 more, so 10 on Tuesday, 8 Wednesday, 8:00
• 39:24
  today, 8:00 on Monday. Did you?
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  Have 8:00 on Monday. Four and 4-5 and five.
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  But a winning day on Monday though.
• 39:31
  Right. No, Monday was not.
• 39:33
  Tuesday and Wednesday were OK .3 units both days all right, you
• 39:37
  keep stacking them up and when you're betting units 20 bucks, I
• 39:39
  mean up up $12.00 lookout, you're having a good week
• 39:43
  that's. Good for me all.
• 39:44
  Right, so more. Of the eight couple event.
• 39:48
  All right, let's hear them. All right, let's start.
• 39:52
  Let's start in baseball. Gonna take the free square,
• 39:55
  Jace? Yep. -120. 7 Gossman against 2.
• 39:59
  It is Bateley Ober. On the bump for the Twinkies,
• 40:03
  with not many people in attendance for this one, the
• 40:06
  Blue Jays starting to play some good baseball.
• 40:08
  The Twins. What will they do at the?
• 40:10
  Ballpark will they keep the fans that are there up to speed on
• 40:14
  both the people have phones now. What am I saying?
• 40:16
  Yeah, exactly. It's a.
• 40:17
  Complete. Those days are over.
• 40:19
  Yes, Don't get with it, Miller. Come on, old man.
• 40:22
  It's 2026. And how many of those people are
• 40:24
  going to? Be watching something else as
• 40:26
  opposed to the ball game that they're at.
• 40:28
  We already bought tickets. We said we're going to go.
• 40:30
  We got to take whatever it is the senior citizens coming out
• 40:33
  of me. Giants.
• 40:35
  In the Phillies tonight, going to go over well late this
• 40:39
  afternoon, 435 first pitch with that one going to take the over
• 40:42
  a couple of guys that well, they don't have any stats, so do they
• 40:46
  have a double? Header today.
• 40:47
  The Phillies and the Giants they must, right?
• 40:49
  Yes. Game two, we're going to go.
• 40:50
  Over 8 flat is the number there over eight runs with the Giants
• 40:56
  and the Phillies in Game 2. And that is it for baseball.
• 40:59
  Over to the hockey. That's Minnesota sports.
• 41:02
  Give me the Stars plus 1/10, that one's pretty easy.
• 41:06
  Same. It's Minnesota sports.
• 41:07
  Give me the Nuggets -6 1/2. So that one's a gift, yes.
• 41:11
  Player prop. 6 1/2 is the. Number you said 6 1/2.
• 41:13
  I'm also playing the Celtics. I don't know why this team, it's
• 41:16
  just I talk a ton about 3 point various.
• 41:19
  I get it. Give me that box score, that's
• 41:22
  all I need. The Celtics take it to a
• 41:24
  completely different level, though.
• 41:25
  I think they'll shoot well on the road.
• 41:26
  I'll lay the 6 1/2 with the Celts tonight.
• 41:29
  Jalen Brown, we're going to go under 6 1/2 rebounds, Jane
• 41:33
  McDaniels over 17 1/2 and well, we can't be done there.
• 41:37
  So let's throw a little more on the puck.
• 41:40
  Ducks plus one quack The Ducks. They win the series tonight.
• 41:44
  Eliminate. The Edmonton Oilers.
• 41:47
  The Oilers go down, The Ducks quack on.
• 41:51
  They'll be shaking hands. And we'll see where it goes.
• 41:53
  And the Ducks, if they advance, they'll wait for the winner of
• 41:56
  the Golden Knights and the Utah Mammoth.
• 41:59
  Mammoth had them last. Night they did they?
• 42:01
  Absolutely. Did a score the equalizer with a
• 42:05
  goalie pulled in the final minute and then won it in double
• 42:08
  overtime. All right, that's going to do it
• 42:10
  for us. So no Mike Palm tomorrow, but
• 42:13
  Chris Andrews from the South Point, one of the best in the
• 42:16
  business. A really good do it.
• 42:17
  I'm glad we found a spot for Chris.
• 42:19
  He's going to join us tomorrow at 1:30, You might be wondering.
• 42:23
  Also about all these player props I've been doing recently,
• 42:25
  tomorrow we'll have a little more information on will you
• 42:28
  keep teasing me and saying. Soon, soon, soon.
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  Yeah. You know we're.
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  Working to deal it here. May 1st is tomorrow.
• 42:34
  Oh it is. The deal goes into place.
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