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T_D_Jakes_You_CAN_Overcome_This_and_Come_Out_STRONGER_Than_Bef · Healing the Strong Ones: Faith & Purpose

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  Speaker 1: You can overcome too. Not in order to be an overcomer,
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  Speaker 1: you got to have something to come over. You can't
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  Speaker 1: be a child then, and you ain't been in a fighter.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be victorious.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't have an Opponent's tears are assigned to God.
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  Speaker 1: I need you. There are seasons in your life where
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  Speaker 1: you are mourning. There are a lot of things you
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  Speaker 1: can mourn about. They create a season of crime. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we need to adjust our theology. Maybe we have taught
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  Speaker 1: enough on five steps to be blessed, and I've got
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  Speaker 1: the blessing of Abraham. Nothing wrong with that stuff. But
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  Speaker 1: maybe we've done enough teaching on being overcome us and
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  Speaker 1: then champions and walking in victory. Maybe we've done enough
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  Speaker 1: preaching about how God will snatch you out. Maybe we
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  Speaker 1: need to change our theology and adjust it to the
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  Speaker 1: point that we embrace the God who walks through it
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  Speaker 1: with you. Po God, hallelujah, who goes through the fire
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  Speaker 1: with you, who goes into pain with you, who goes
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  Speaker 1: in the suffering with you. I couldn't understand as a
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  Speaker 1: young preacher, I said, God, how can you use me
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  Speaker 1: to heal other people? Literally lay hands and see them
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  Speaker 1: heal and then bring me home to a mother with alzheimers.
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  Speaker 1: How could I be so annoying that I remember leaving
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  Speaker 1: the church who still wet with sweat from preaching, and
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  Speaker 1: going in the hospital and laying across her body with
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  Speaker 1: the sweating body, and laying.
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  Speaker 2: On her and asking the healer. And still she died.
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  Speaker 1: And the enemy said, what you gonna preach now? I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about seeing God walking you through the pain. And
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  Speaker 1: the enemy said, you couldn't even heal your own mother.
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  Speaker 1: How can you stand up in front of them and
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  Speaker 1: preach now? I said, not only will I preach now,
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  Speaker 1: I'll preach your funeral. I'll stand over top of her.
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  Speaker 1: And I couldn't do it in my own strength, but
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  Speaker 1: I met him in the suffering. So I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you about this whole shock we have about
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  Speaker 1: suffering is not a result of our God. It's a
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  Speaker 1: result of our teaching. We had not been taught enough
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  Speaker 1: about suffering. See back when I came along, my grandmother's
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  Speaker 1: generation came out of the Great Depression, and all the
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  Speaker 1: songs were about suffering. I'm going through, I'm going through.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take the way with the Lord's despise few I
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  Speaker 1: started in Jesus, and I'm going to hey.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I singing about suffering no more.
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  Speaker 1: When the depression was over, the revelation of suffering seemed
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  Speaker 1: to dissipate out of our hymn books. And so if
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  Speaker 1: you want to sing a song about suffering, you have
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  Speaker 1: to go back about forty years. Because our revelation is
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  Speaker 1: seen through the lens of our situation. So the way
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  Speaker 1: we seek God is a reflection of our point of view.
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  Speaker 1: When things are going good, we see him in the
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  Speaker 1: Hosanna lens. But when things go bad, can you still
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  Speaker 1: see him? And to crucify him? Lives sooner or lady,
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  Speaker 1: if you live long enough, you're gonna have both extremes.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have the dichotomous experience of being victorious over
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  Speaker 1: here and agonized over here, of being a hole in
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  Speaker 1: this area and being broken. And if you live long enough,
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  Speaker 1: you begin to walk away with certain conclusions like Jorgan did,
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  Speaker 1: that I can serve a God like this because I found.
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  Speaker 2: Him in my suffering.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's not a seductive invitation. I know it's
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  Speaker 1: not as dramatic or as pleasant as this world would.
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  Speaker 2: Like to have.
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  Speaker 1: That it's hard to get people to come to Jesus now,
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  Speaker 1: So we promise you Cadillacs and Mercedes and Rose Royce
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  Speaker 1: has come to Jesus, and God's gonna give you a
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  Speaker 1: bigger house. Come to Jesus and he gonna bring your
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  Speaker 1: children out of prison. Come to Jesus and He's going
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  Speaker 1: We're quick to make promises. It's easy to write checks
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  Speaker 1: on somebody else's account.
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  Speaker 2: Come on here.
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  Speaker 1: As long as you're writing on somebody else's count, anybody
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  Speaker 1: can write you a big check when it comes out
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  Speaker 1: of somebody else's account. But walking with God cannot just
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  Speaker 1: be a bunch of quick preachers with slick hair saying
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  Speaker 1: nice things to excite big crowds. You're gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: week like this soon, a lady, If you live long enough,
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  Speaker 1: the pageantry of your wedding will go through the pain
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  Speaker 1: of marriage. If you live long enough, the luxury of
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  Speaker 1: holding a little beautiful baby in your arms that starts
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  Speaker 1: out in your arms ends up on your heart. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you live long enough, you're gonna have a week
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  Speaker 1: like this. And I came to one. You don't let
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  Speaker 1: the Hosannahs fool you. I cannot promise you that everybody
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  Speaker 1: who starts with you is gonna stay with you. I
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  Speaker 1: cannot promise you that everybody who celebrates you will be
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  Speaker 1: there when things turn bad for you. But knowing God,
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  Speaker 1: who's got up in his hand, he says, but he
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  Speaker 1: looks real low.
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  Speaker 2: And when they throw you in the.
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  Speaker 1: Fire, he'll get in the fire with him. When they
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  Speaker 1: throw you in the freest, he'll be walking around in
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  Speaker 1: the furnace with you. He'll stand right there by you.
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  Speaker 1: Because there is something, there's some kinetic energy, there's some connectivity,
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  Speaker 1: there's some kinship. There's some kinship that we have with
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  Speaker 1: Him in the agony and the suffering of life.
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  Speaker 2: So don't be shocked when suffering comes.
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  Speaker 1: Set your face as flint, because we are not serving
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  Speaker 1: a god or a faith that is built on just
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  Speaker 1: promises of good time. He didn't just give you sunshine
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  Speaker 1: and not tell you about rain. He didn't just give
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  Speaker 1: you pleasure and not be open about pain. The epitome.
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  Speaker 2: Every time you see a cross, I want.
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  Speaker 1: You to see that God is out of young people say,
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  Speaker 1: keeping it real. He's keeping it one hundred that you're
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  Speaker 1: going to suffer. So don't be shocked in the suffering.
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  Speaker 1: There is a revelation to be seen in the suffering.
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  Speaker 1: I thought to myself, he had the biggest crowd at
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  Speaker 1: the most insignificant moment, and all that left him before
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  Speaker 1: the suffering mixed his finest hour, For his finest hour
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  Speaker 1: is not when we lay down our coats and we
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  Speaker 1: lay down our pomly. His finest hour is when they
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  Speaker 1: stripped back his flesh and he commends his body over
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  Speaker 1: to his father and says, I've done all I can do,
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  Speaker 1: and they hold him down for the count and say
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  Speaker 1: he will not be back. And for three days it
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  Speaker 1: looked like he was a liar. Oh, y'all, don't get
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. For three days, you could think anything
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to think. For three days, you could say
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  Speaker 1: anything you wanted to say about it.
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  Speaker 2: For three days, you could say, see, he was a
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  Speaker 2: pony and a fraud.
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  Speaker 1: For three days you could pull your hands off and
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  Speaker 1: say there's nothing to him.
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  Speaker 2: Friday you could laugh. Saturday you could laugh.
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  Speaker 1: But early Sunday morning he slapped the smile off your face.
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  Speaker 1: He took the grin out of your teeth. Early Sunday morning,
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  Speaker 1: with no witnesses and no crowd, and no palm trees,
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  Speaker 1: and nobody's singing, not one song, nobody's saying, holds aunt
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  Speaker 1: anywhere Sunday morning, without anybody to help him out of
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  Speaker 1: his grave clothes, without anybody to get.
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  Speaker 2: Him out of the two many God.
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  Speaker 1: By himself said it's over step from death into life. YOA,
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  Speaker 1: don't hear what I'm saying, step from hell and death
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  Speaker 1: into life itself. So I have overcome and said you
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  Speaker 1: can overcome too. Not in order to be an overcomer,
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  Speaker 1: you got to have something to come over. As I closed,
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  Speaker 1: y'all't hear what I'm saying. You can't be an overcomer
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  Speaker 1: and not have something to come over. Hallelujah, to go.
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  Speaker 1: You can't be a chap it and you ain't been
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  Speaker 1: in a fight. You can't be victorious if you don't
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  Speaker 1: have an opponent. If you don't have an opponent, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have a victory. But I'm here to talk. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like i'm preaching, y'all. I'm here to tell you, hallelujah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you. I'm here to tell you
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  Speaker 1: and you and you. I'm here to tell all of
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  Speaker 1: you that are watching online. But most of all, I'm
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  Speaker 1: here to tell the enemy. I want to tell the number.
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  Speaker 1: I want to precede the devil for a minute. If
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  Speaker 1: you think I'm shocked, you don't know me. If you
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  Speaker 1: think I'm all quick, you underestimating me. Take it not
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  Speaker 1: range that these fire childs had come against you, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I have a God that'll meet you in the fire,
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  Speaker 1: That'll meet you in the furnace, that'll meet you in
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  Speaker 1: the hospital. I gotta meet you in your agony, gotta
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  Speaker 1: meet you in your suffering, that will meet you in
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  Speaker 1: the hospital, that'll meet you in the cemetery, that will
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  Speaker 1: meet you in your pain. Got'll meet you with boils
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  Speaker 1: all over the other, meet you in lepardsity. A god
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  Speaker 1: that will meet you in the unemployment line. I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about seasons of crying. Seasons of crying, And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you was raised. I was raised
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  Speaker 1: not to cry. So I have to climb over top
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  Speaker 1: of everything I was taught to cry because I was
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  Speaker 1: denied permission to cry. So crying hurt. And when crying hurts,
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  Speaker 1: my soul has no way to irrigate itself from the
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  Speaker 1: stress it has incurred. Grief doesn't leave if tears don't flow.
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  Speaker 1: I need to be able to release. I need to
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  Speaker 1: be able to cry. Hear me, brothers, I need to
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  Speaker 1: be able to cry. Not crying doesn't make you stronger,
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  Speaker 1: it makes you sick. I don't walk acroy crying all
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  Speaker 1: the time, but when I need to cry, I need
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  Speaker 1: to let out. There are seasons in your life where
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  Speaker 1: you are mourning, and don't nobody have to be dead.
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  Speaker 1: You can be mourning the job you lost, the house
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  Speaker 1: you didn't get, the age you're at, the stage you're at.
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  Speaker 1: You can be mourning the lack of companionship. There are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things you can mourn about that create
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  Speaker 1: a season of crying. Whether you see him do it
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  Speaker 1: or not, he cries. He may wait till your sleep,
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  Speaker 1: but he cries, and thank God he does, because if
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  Speaker 1: he does, he's going to die, or commit suicide, or
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  Speaker 1: drive his car into a river. Tears are a gift
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  Speaker 1: from God to ventilate the soul when you have ingested
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  Speaker 1: too much pain. Tears are assigned to God.
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  Speaker 2: I need you.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody shall cry. There is a cry. The kids can
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  Speaker 1: be playing in the backyard and they make a noise
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  Speaker 1: and holler and you don't pay them no attention. But
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  Speaker 1: there is a cry that will make you drop a
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  Speaker 1: plate on the floor and run out there with sosa
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  Speaker 1: on your hands. Because there he is a cry that
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  Speaker 1: gets your attention as a parent. As it is with you,
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  Speaker 1: so it is with God. There he is a cry
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  Speaker 1: that will get God's attention, that will arrest him and
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  Speaker 1: stop him in his tracks. If you don't believe it,
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  Speaker 1: ask blind Bottomis, who sat by the highway, said begging.
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  Speaker 1: But when he heard Jeez was passing by. The Bible
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  Speaker 1: said that blind bottom Mais began to cry, and he
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  Speaker 1: cried till he got on people's nerves. And he cried
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  Speaker 1: till they told him to shut up. But the boy
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  Speaker 1: they told him to shut up. The louder he cried,
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  Speaker 1: and the bye the shed. Can I preach a minute,
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  Speaker 1: the Bible said, blind boy miss cried till Jesus stood still.
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  Speaker 1: There is a cry that will arrest the Lord. There
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  Speaker 1: is a cry that will get God's attention. I heard
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  Speaker 1: David say this poor man cried, and the Lord heard
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  Speaker 1: him and delivered him.
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  Speaker 2: Out of all his troubles.
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  Speaker 1: If you would open your mouth and cry, God would
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  Speaker 1: deliver you. But when the boat docked and Jesus stepped
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  Speaker 1: off the boat, before he could get both feet on
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  Speaker 1: drag ground. The man came running to Jesus. Slap your
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  Speaker 1: neighbor and say run.
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  Speaker 2: Run.
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  Speaker 1: Run away from self sabotage. Run away from self destruction,
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  Speaker 1: Run away from the way you talk to yourself, Run
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  Speaker 1: away from canceling out your pain. More pain. You had
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  Speaker 1: a bad man, you go get a worse man. You
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  Speaker 1: had a wife, Beata, you get another wife, Beata. It's
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  Speaker 1: pain to pain therapy because you don't feel worthy of
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  Speaker 1: good treatment when a good man comes into your life.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't like him. You're cutting yourself. Slap them
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  Speaker 1: and say run. The man runs to Jesus. Now listen
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  Speaker 1: to this. Legions of demons are in this man. Legions
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  Speaker 1: are massive multitudes of demons that are in this man.
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  Speaker 1: And all the legions, in a concerted effort of agreement,
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  Speaker 1: could not stop him from running. Came nothing stop you
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  Speaker 1: from running. If you get ready to get to Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: came nothing stop you from running. Came nothing stop you
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  Speaker 1: from running. So they couldn't stopping from running. And when
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  Speaker 1: he got to Jesus, Now the demons who knew that.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus is a spirit. He knew that.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus sawd them, so they couldn't hide any longer. So
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  Speaker 1: they started talking to him and said, why have you
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  Speaker 1: come to I feel like preaching I got stopped. Why
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  Speaker 1: have you come to torment me before my time? And
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  Speaker 1: then they started negotiating with Jesus and they said, send
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  Speaker 1: us away, but don't let us leave the region.
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  Speaker 2: The man who was naked and bruised.
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  Speaker 1: And bleeding and cutting himself in the tomb, when Jesus
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  Speaker 1: got through with him, he was chilling, dog, this is
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  Speaker 1: the way your spirit is supposed to be. He had
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  Speaker 1: one fear left. Will this work when I'm out of
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  Speaker 1: this atmosphere? And he says to Jesus, can I go
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  Speaker 1: with you? Daddy? Can I go with you? Because then
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  Speaker 1: that president, there's fullness of joy. Now that right hand,
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  Speaker 1: there are pleasures forevermore. There have been several times in
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  Speaker 1: this church that I had this miss service, took a shower,
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  Speaker 1: changed clothes, got in the car driving home, and people
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  Speaker 1: were still here. Because there's something about glory.
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  Speaker 2: Glory, I mean real glory.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about flesh, but real glory will make
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  Speaker 1: you linger. And they would tell me Bishop, the people
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  Speaker 1: won't leave. They're just sitting around some of them a
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  Speaker 1: laying prostrating the floor. Some of them are laying on
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  Speaker 1: the halt. The man did not want to leave Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: and Jesus I couldn't understand that. I thought, Jesus, I
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  Speaker 1: understand him because I'm a better man when you around,
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  Speaker 1: and I know what it is to need you like
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  Speaker 1: all the time. He said, no, you don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that stopped him from going home was
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  Speaker 1: being home, And once I got him home, he could
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  Speaker 1: go home. The hardest thing.
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  Speaker 2: For a man to do.
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  Speaker 1: Is go home, even if he goes physically, getting him
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  Speaker 1: to go mentally where he can really be home at
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  Speaker 1: home causes many men to circle the house before they
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  Speaker 1: go in the house because they see the house as
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  Speaker 1: another kind of job. But the Lord said, go home.
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  Speaker 1: You will know you are free where you can be
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  Speaker 1: home at home.