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Monday 3pm hour 05/18/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: and Ron Verp. Here's a question of the day here
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  Speaker 1: that's from your perspective. So this is a very individual question.
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  Speaker 1: diagnostic tests that I'm going to be running here today.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't that sound like I'm a medical professional? I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be running a very specific diagnostic medical test here today.
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  Speaker 1: Not medical test, but here's what we're going to do.
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  Speaker 1: From an economic standpoint, I want to talk a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about economics with you here today. All right? And
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  Speaker 1: from your perspective of things, because I think, in my estimation...
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  Speaker 1: I think the economy's in a tough spot for a
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  Speaker 1: lot of you listening. And when I say a lot,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go further than that. For the majority of you listening,
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  Speaker 1: I think the economy's in a tough situation. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a very individual perspective that you might have on it.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about obviously high oil prices as a result
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  Speaker 1: of the situation going on in Iran. But we also,
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  Speaker 1: each individual household, and I talk about it so often,
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  Speaker 1: we look at the cost of electricity has doubled. Electricity
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  Speaker 1: has doubled. You'll probably notice that more this year with
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  Speaker 1: your air conditioning than you've ever noticed it. So electricity
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  Speaker 1: has doubled. Gasoline is high. Natural gas costs are high.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of stuff going on and food
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  Speaker 1: prices are up there. So everywhere you look, prices are
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  Speaker 1: going up or increasing. Groceries, cars, repairs, parts, services, energy.
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  Speaker 1: And they keep going up and... your income doesn't keep
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  Speaker 1: pace with it. Now, that doesn't matter if your income
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  Speaker 1: is Social Security or your income is from a paycheck.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my perspective as I sit here and I
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  Speaker 1: talk to people on a regular basis. And from my perspective,
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  Speaker 1: I think that the economy, what's going on right now,
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  Speaker 1: has affected each and every one of you in a
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  Speaker 1: noticeable fashion. Yes? No? The cost of everything. And so
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  Speaker 1: as I point out to you, when all of this
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  Speaker 1: stuff goes up in cost, you only have so much money,
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  Speaker 1: you have to make cutbacks or sacrifices somewhere. Something you
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  Speaker 1: have to do Differently because you only have so much
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  Speaker 1: money and if everything costs a little bit more and
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  Speaker 1: you have basically the same amount of money coming in
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  Speaker 1: and in many cases you don't have a Bunch of
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  Speaker 1: money to offset these increases most people are not getting
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  Speaker 1: bonuses or Increases that's keep pace with inflation Including on
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  Speaker 1: Social Security those bonuses aren't anywhere close and To what
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  Speaker 1: the actual cost of inflation is.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to have a little bit of an economic discussion.
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  Speaker 1: With the class today boys and girls. That means you. Incidentally. And.
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  Speaker 1: From the perspective of. I don't sense the golden age
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  Speaker 1: right now. When Trump was talking about the golden age.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: When I look around, I sense that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are noticing this inflation and how it's affecting them
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  Speaker 1: in their own households. Is that the case with you?
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  Speaker 1: So it's a very individual thing. I mean, is that
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  Speaker 1: the case with you? I sit and I mull this
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  Speaker 1: over because, as I talk about so much on the program,
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  Speaker 1: your property taxes have gone up substantially, and they will
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  Speaker 1: go up again as a result of the re-evaluations going
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  Speaker 1: on as we speak. So your property tax have gone up,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to go up more. Your utilities have
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  Speaker 1: gone up substantially. Your gasoline cost has gone up. Grocery
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  Speaker 1: costs have gone up. Insurance has gone up. Cost of
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  Speaker 1: cars has gone up. Cost of repairs have gone up.
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  Speaker 1: Cost of parts has gone up. Cost of insurance has
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  Speaker 1: gone up. So from your perspective, what's your take on
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  Speaker 1: all this? I mean, where does it stand from your situation?
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing economically speaking? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do you sense any economic issues with yourself
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  Speaker 1: and in this country right now? Because I see it
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  Speaker 1: and I do. Do you? I see it and I do.
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  Speaker 1: And it's troubling to me because unfortunately, I think we're
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  Speaker 1: coming to a point, like just let me talk to
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  Speaker 1: you for a second about electricity. When we double the
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  Speaker 1: cost of electricity. we suddenly start to make people more
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  Speaker 1: cognizant of things like running their air conditioning. Well, instead
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  Speaker 1: of running it at 72, we'll run it at 74.
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  Speaker 1: Or they won't run it as much. So there's sacrifices
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  Speaker 1: that people make, in many cases, on their comfort once
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  Speaker 1: they start getting these electric bills, which has doubled. What
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  Speaker 1: you're paying for the cost of electricity has doubled. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I notice a difference... Sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: think I do when I look at the number of
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  Speaker 1: vehicles on the highway. Sometimes when I look at the
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  Speaker 1: number of vehicles on the highway, I think to myself,
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  Speaker 1: like when I leave the station, it's like, I sometimes
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  Speaker 1: think when I leave the station, gee, it should be
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  Speaker 1: busier than it is. And it's not on the highways,
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  Speaker 1: or it used to be busier than it is. But
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it isn't. Just my observation. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing to base it on other than my observations
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  Speaker 1: when I'd be driving home from the radio station in
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  Speaker 1: the evening. Maybe I'm just going nuts where I would
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  Speaker 1: think to myself, seems to me there used to be
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  Speaker 1: more traffic here on 224 at that hour of the day.
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  Speaker 1: And there's less of it. Is it because gas is
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  Speaker 1: so expensive? This is what goes through my pea brain.
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  Speaker 1: Or because of everything else being so expensive. So what's
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  Speaker 1: your take on this? Because I keep waiting and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Trump talked about the golden age and it very well
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  Speaker 1: could happen. I mean, obviously, is this just a bump
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  Speaker 1: in the roads with this situation in the Middle East? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we keep hearing, oh, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to resolve this. It says on my headline today, Iranian
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  Speaker 1: president makes major admission about U.S. attack in Operation Epic Fury.
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  Speaker 1: Just the headlines of the day. So we still don't
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  Speaker 1: have an agreement there at all as far as what's
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  Speaker 1: going on in the Middle East. We haven't reached an
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  Speaker 1: agreement there, and it continues to go on.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: What else do I have here, just headline-wise? I find
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  Speaker 1: the most interesting stuff usually on CNBC. when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the economy and what's going on there. For example,
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  Speaker 1: NASDAQ drops for a second day as tech pullback picks
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  Speaker 1: up steam. So if you look at the markets, the
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  Speaker 1: S & P is down 30, NASDAQ is down 236,
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  Speaker 1: the Russell is down 33, and the Dow is up 5.
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  Speaker 1: So not a good day for your IRA or your 401k.
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  Speaker 1: Not a good day for that. Headline. Trump pivots to
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  Speaker 1: midterms affordability after China summit as Iran war persists. Well,
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  Speaker 1: how about that? Maybe he should be pivoting to affordability
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  Speaker 1: in time for the midterms. President Donald Trump. Defense Secretary Hegseth,
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  Speaker 1: VP J.D. Vance are fanning out across the U.S. this
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  Speaker 1: week for events aiming at touting domestic achievements. The Bush
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  Speaker 1: comes as the Iran war and the aftermath of Trump's
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  Speaker 1: China trip remain front burner issues. It also comes ahead
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  Speaker 1: of the 2026 midterm elections where Democrats hope to make
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  Speaker 1: gains as Americans views sour on the Iran war and
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  Speaker 1: the economy. Those are the headlines. President Donald Trump has
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  Speaker 1: returned stateside and so has this administration's focus. Trump and
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  Speaker 1: his top officials fanning out across the U.S. this week
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  Speaker 1: for events aimed at touting domestic achievements. Trump on Monday afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: that's today, is set to unveil his latest efforts to
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  Speaker 1: bring down health care costs, which are off the charts,
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  Speaker 1: while Hegseth travels to a campaign event in Kentucky and J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance attends a manufacturing event in Missouri. The apparent shift
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  Speaker 1: days after Trump's return from Beijing comes ahead of the
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  Speaker 1: fast-approaching 2026 midterm elections, where Democrats hope to regain at
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  Speaker 1: least one chamber of Congress and push back against the
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  Speaker 1: president's policy agendas. They're aiming to capitalize on Trump's dwindling
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  Speaker 1: approval ratings, which have sunk to new lows. In multiple
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  Speaker 1: recent polls, most Americans expressed negative views about the Iran
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  Speaker 1: war and the state of the economy, which is what
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  Speaker 1: I'm asking you about. So they talk about the state
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  Speaker 1: of the economy. Those pressures have helped make affordability a
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  Speaker 1: central theme of the midterms. Trump's announcement at the White
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  Speaker 1: House is billed as a health care affordability event. So
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  Speaker 1: the Trump administration is trying to get back to the
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  Speaker 1: emphasis of affordability. And you have a Democratic strategery guy,
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  Speaker 1: to quote George Bush, says that the American voter is
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  Speaker 1: pissed about the economy. That would be you, incidentally. Trump
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  Speaker 1: was elected on a promise to wrangle Biden near inflation
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  Speaker 1: and bring down high prices, and that hasn't happened. So
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  Speaker 1: the American people are pretty pissed, is the words of
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  Speaker 1: Mike Nellis, a Democrat strategist. The economy is a major
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  Speaker 1: marquee campaign issue. Trump recently had the lowest numbers on
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  Speaker 1: the economies had in either term. Quinnipiac University poll analysis
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  Speaker 1: says Tim Malloy said in a phone interview, put that
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  Speaker 1: on top of gas prices. You're looking at big red flags.
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  Speaker 1: There's a New York Times poll published Monday found Trump's
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  Speaker 1: overall approval scrapping 37 percent, a new second term low.
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  Speaker 1: It's nearly two thirds of voters said they disapprove of
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  Speaker 1: his handling of the economy. Two thirds. President is expected
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  Speaker 1: to announce an expansion of the number of discounted prescription
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  Speaker 1: drugs offered through the administration's TrumpRx website. So there you
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  Speaker 1: have it. So they're getting back to the affordability issue,
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  Speaker 1: which they should. So what do you make of it?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you view the economy as one
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  Speaker 1: of the major things, one of the things we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about here this afternoon? I mean, from your economic perspective,
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  Speaker 1: how's the economy treating you? I mean, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: say that I don't believe polling, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it I don't believe because it's been so wrong so often.
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  Speaker 1: And it's shown to be that way, just wrong, right?
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  Speaker 1: But is it wrong this time when the polling basically
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  Speaker 1: says a lot of people are upset about the affordability issue?
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  Speaker 1: So is it wrong? Maybe not. It's not always wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's right. When it's not politically motivated. So basically
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  Speaker 1: what they're saying in this polling, the affordability issue is
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  Speaker 1: the big issue. And are you sitting down? I agree
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  Speaker 1: with that. I think that is a huge issue with people.
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  Speaker 1: All right, your comments from your perspective, from your household perspective.
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  Speaker 1: But I go back to say this. Does anybody actually
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  Speaker 1: believe that voting for Democrats would make affordability better? Does
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  Speaker 1: anybody actually believe that going back to the Biden era,
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  Speaker 1: progressive Democrats would improve the economy? Does anybody actually believe that?
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  Speaker 1: I would find that hard to believe. From my perspective.
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  Speaker 1: All right, should we try to squeeze a call in?
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  Speaker 1: Let's try. You're on air.
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm going to one center court.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a second. Wait a second.
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland, Ohio, one center court.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a second. It's Dick from Dayton. Here it is,
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  Speaker 1: Sunday night. Guess what I'm thinking about? Sunday night, I'm
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  Speaker 1: thinking about one person.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, forget affordability for a minute. Sunday night, last night,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about one person. You know who that one
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  Speaker 1: person was?
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  Speaker 2: Me.
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  Speaker 1: You. I'm thinking about Dick from Dayton when the Cavaliers...
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  Speaker 1: won last night. These basketball playoffs, they go on forever, incidentally.
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  Speaker 1: They never end. But the Cavaliers must win one. And
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  Speaker 1: so I'm sitting here thinking, well, I bet you Dick
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  Speaker 1: from Dayton's excited. So now back to the court on Tuesday, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I just never, everybody at the, you know, down the
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  Speaker 5: dial there was all, you know, they're going to choke
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  Speaker 5: and thing. I just, You know, out of malls, one
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  Speaker 5: of my friends, I put a lot of pennies in there,
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  Speaker 5: but I thought they looked pretty good, didn't they?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they did. Hallelujah, Dick. Hallelujah. And the Guardians, too.
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  Speaker 5: How about that?
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  Speaker 1: We'll be back. Youngstown's news, weather, and talk station, 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 1: I know, 325 in the afternoon. It's 90 degrees here
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  Speaker 1: in Tiffany Boulevard in Boardman on this Monday, May 18th.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about Dick from Dayton last night with
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  Speaker 1: the Cavs winning late last night. So onward they go
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  Speaker 1: to the next round of it. Basketball playoffs go on forever.
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  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. You're on the air. Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Hello. Hello?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, speak your piece.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, I was going to say I heard you talking
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  Speaker 6: about what they said about President Trump. I've been a
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  Speaker 6: lifelong Democrat, haven't voted Democrat in about 20 years. I'm
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  Speaker 6: a history major, was working on my master's in history education.
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  Speaker 6: I believe President Trump has done more for our country
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  Speaker 6: in a short period of time, called us a Christian nation,
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  Speaker 6: brought back integrity, strength. and I will sacrifice at $ 5
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  Speaker 6: a gallon for gas. Everybody here in the U.S., according
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  Speaker 6: to me at 60 years old, they want everything that
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  Speaker 6: they didn't earn, and they're not willing to sacrifice by
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  Speaker 6: giving up cable or the more expensive car. I worry
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  Speaker 6: about my kids who are still teenagers, and I worry
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  Speaker 6: about their future. So I think the president's approval rating
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  Speaker 6: for me is much higher than what they say. And
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  Speaker 6: I am thankful that we have him every day. The economy,
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  Speaker 6: I still think, is going well. And as for the war,
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  Speaker 6: every president has said Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 6: He's the only one that did anything. He's through strength.
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  Speaker 6: I totally believe it, Ron.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for your time.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. So there you go. How about that? Now,
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  Speaker 1: do you see many other guys like that in polling?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just curious. I mean, as he speaks, you're on
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  Speaker 1: the air.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Ron.
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  Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, Frank. Hello.
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  Speaker 2: That guy that just called he had a caller last
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  Speaker 2: week that said ancient Rome was one of the most
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  Speaker 2: peaceful societies in history they were actually one of the
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  Speaker 2: most warlike so this guy said he was a history
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  Speaker 2: major have him call again and say that Frank was
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  Speaker 2: right now also Jacob the Zionist when I said that
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  Speaker 2: America is a nation of spenders and debtors in China
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  Speaker 2: as a nation, savers and investors. He called all irate,
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  Speaker 2: saying that's because China is a slave labor economy. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I did some research, and the Uyghurs, there's 80,000 Uyghurs
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  Speaker 2: that have been enslaved out of a population of 1.9
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  Speaker 2: billion Chinese people. And he said that China's broke.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. But they are enslaved, and they are abused.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's be realistic. I'm not here to hear
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  Speaker 1: you champion how great China is.
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  Speaker 2: No, he was saying that the whole economy is slave labor.
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  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. It would be like 200 people in Ohio
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  Speaker 2: being enslaved and saying, hey, it's a enslaved state. That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, when you look at the Chinese
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  Speaker 1: economy and you try to compare it to the United
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  Speaker 1: States economy, they don't have a lot of the requirements
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  Speaker 1: we have here or the standard that we have here
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  Speaker 1: in many wages. They're not dealing with OSHA. They're not
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  Speaker 1: dealing with unemployment and Social Security and health care. They're
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  Speaker 1: not dealing with some of these Chinese factories are god-awful.
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  Speaker 1: So let's not act like China's this perfect spot and
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  Speaker 1: they got it all figured out and they don't exploit
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  Speaker 1: their people and they're not a communist country. Stand by.
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  Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, Frank, coming back with him in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: So stay tuned. All right, it's 3.34, back to Fort Lauderdale, Frank.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I don't want to hear too much more
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  Speaker 1: about China's economy and that kind of stuff. I'm focused
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  Speaker 1: more on this country's economy. This is where I live, okay? And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I get tired of... Some of these people
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  Speaker 1: who think you're unable to criticize anything. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: genuinely get troubled by some Trump supporters that lack any
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  Speaker 1: ability to criticize anything or look differently at anything. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think because I voted for Trump three times, supported Trump,
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  Speaker 1: And that means I got to agree with everything he does.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the only thing that's acceptable. And there are
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  Speaker 1: people that are like that, that seem to have that mentality.
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  Speaker 1: That is not my mentality. I didn't appreciate Democrats who
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  Speaker 1: did that with Joe Biden. And I certainly won't do
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  Speaker 1: that with Trump. There's many things about Trump that I
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  Speaker 1: find annoying and have found annoying over his tenure as president.
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  Speaker 1: Many things that I find that we've talked about in
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  Speaker 1: the past. I don't go along with everything and say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: whatever Trump's for, I'm for 100%. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: question anything. He's just the most brilliant guy on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: So the people that are like that are nothing but cheerleaders.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what they are. They are out of touch cheerleaders.
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  Speaker 1: So as I say, does that mean I would vote
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  Speaker 1: for Sherrod Brown or any Democrat? Absolutely not. But it
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  Speaker 1: also doesn't mean that I put my brain on check
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  Speaker 1: and just say, well, whatever Trump reverses himself on or
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  Speaker 1: whatever the Republicans do, it's A-OK. And that isn't the
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  Speaker 1: case either. Don't stop thinking. So forget the Chinese economy, Frank.
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  Speaker 1: We should be focusing on our economy, the American economy,
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  Speaker 1: and what's happening here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Ron, what have I always said that my concern
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  Speaker 2: with China is? They have so much money, they're buying
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  Speaker 2: tons of land in our country and shares in our stock.
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  Speaker 2: And they're buying land. near military installations because i believe
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  Speaker 2: they want to spy on.
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  Speaker 1: Us but how stupid are we frank for selling it
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  Speaker 1: to them how stupid are we as a country to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: sell our prime farmland any of it to china or
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: any of this stuff by military bases to china we
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: are fools for doing that.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: You ready for the bad news now the market is
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: way down today yes and for the xenophobics like jacob
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: The Zionist stock market is way down, too. But my
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: AI stocks, I had to buy some more. I have
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a few that are down over 10% in just today alone, Ron.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And you know the reason why the market is crashing?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Because Wall Street believes that this war, that they way
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: underestimated how long this war is going to last. They, well,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: way up again today, Wall Street believes that oil is
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: going to keep going up in price and that this
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: war is going to last a lot longer than they thought.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Well, here we go. All the Trump cheerleaders can get
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: in a tizzy here. I agree with you. I think
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that this war has gone on much longer than they
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: thought it would happen, and it's not going as has
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: been planned. I honestly think that they thought that this
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: would be over much sooner than it is. I mean,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: we did the bunker buster, and then we did all
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: this bombing, and we still don't have an agreement or
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: still don't have them on the key issues in agreeing
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: with that. So they talk about, well, maybe we have
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to do more bombing, thinking that that's going to bring
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: them to the negotiating table and agree with all of
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. It seems like they're pretty well
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: dug in on their position as well. So I agree
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: with you. I do agree with you. I don't think
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: this is taking longer than they thought it would take.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I do agree.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Well, this is the value of diversification. While my AI
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: stocks are crashing, I bought a lot of oil stocks
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and they're way up. I got one that's up 25%
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: and I've only owned it three days. But You know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: as far, I think we ought to listen to Prince
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Turkey Al-Faisal, former head of Saudi intelligence. He said when
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Iran and others try to drag Saudi Arabia into the
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: furnace of destruction, that their leadership chose to endure the
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: pains caused by a neighbor in order to protect the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: lives and property of its citizens. He said had the
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: kingdom wanted to respond by destroying Saudi Iranian facilities. The
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: outcome would have been the destruction of our oil facilities
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: and desalinization plants. He said Israel tried to ignite a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: war between us and Iran, and if it had succeeded,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: the whole region would have been plunged into ruin and destruction.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And he said thousands of our sons and daughters would
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: have been lost in battles that we have no stake in,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and Israel would have been able to impose their will
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: on the region And let me tell you this, too, Ron.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Although Iran has attacked U.S. military assets in Saudi Arabia,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: they have not attacked Saudi oil interests. In fact, I
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: looked it up today. Saudi Aramco, the state-owned oil company.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: is earning record profits.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Well, nothing would surprise me that all these oil companies
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: are going to have record profits as we pay through
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the nose. I mean, that doesn't shock me at all.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: But going back once again, I agree with you. I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: think that this is dragging on much longer than the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: administration thought it would go on, and perhaps they were
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: misled by Israel on this situation or misread it or
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: didn't listen to their advisors. I'm sure that there were
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: advisors that said, if they could muster up the courage
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: to tell Trump that they thought that this was a
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: bad idea or thought maybe that this would take longer
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: than they might anticipate that this wouldn't be like Venezuela.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I got a question to throw out to the audience.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Instead of putting ground troops in Iran or wherever, why
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: are we not using soldier robots? I mean, they can
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: do anything better than the soldier. They don't have to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: be fed. They don't have to worry about getting wounded.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I would just ask you this question. How successful
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: have missions been without boots on the ground? I mean,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking a general question. Do you think you
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: can win these conflicts by bombing?
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Like I've said before..
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: The Air Force generals keep telling the politicians, we don't
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: need boots on the ground. We can simply win by
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: air power alone. We've never won a war by air
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: power alone. So I agree with you completely.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: You've been around long enough. It does remind me somewhat
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: of Vietnam. I mean, Trump was elected by people who
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: don't want these endless wars and regime change wars in
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the Middle East. They don't want that. And they look
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: at the history of what we've done there and look
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: at the history of Vietnam and saying, okay, so... Ron, if.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: This war continues dragging on and on, what do you
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: think is going to happen to the economy?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to deteriorate even more.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: And plus, not only soldier robots... But how many robots
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: are going to put American workers.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Out of job? Right. That's a whole different discussion. You know,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: when you're talking soldier robots, sometimes I think you're smoking
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: weed down there in Fort Lauderdale.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: You haven't seen these robots.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Has J.J. the Liberal been down there? Are you smoking
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: weed with J.J. the Liberal down in Fort Lauderdale? I mean,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just dealing with the reality today. It's dragging on
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: longer than I thought. I don't know if there's a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: good way out. I just don't know what the plan
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is at this point. If Iran digs itself in and says,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: we're not doing any of this stuff. We're not going
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to give in to any of this. There's a number
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: of problems that I would bounce off of you, Frank.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Who are you negotiating with? I mean, first and foremost,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you wiped out most of the people, which is a
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: good thing. So can you sit back and say, who's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: really in charge? Who's really making the decisions? Who has
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the authority to make the decisions? That seems to me
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that that would be a difficult situation to figure out.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Who do you communicate with and how do you communicate
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: with them?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Well, Iran's military has planned for this. They plan for
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: their leadership to be wiped out, the same as Hezbollah,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: which is not a terrorist organization, plan that if their
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: leaders get killed in battle, the next in command is
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: well trained to completely take over. down to the private
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: in Hezbollah.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: The bottom line is this. Listen, I guess the only
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: thing you and I can agree on today is that
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: this is taking longer than they anticipated. And when you
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: ask me the key question, do I think what will
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: happen with the economy as this drags on, I don't
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: think nothing good is going to happen. I think it
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: just gets worse. How's that?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Well, like I said, my oil stocks are doing great.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I don't care if you make a fortune. I'm talking
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: about everybody in general. Go spend some time with those
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: young women that are under the age of, what, 60
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that you're hanging out with down there that are in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: their 30s and 40s with that harem that you have,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: all right?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I got it. I worry about the icebox.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: All right, there he is.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Fort Lauderdale.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: It's 90 degrees here. Fort Lauderdale, Frank, thank you. You're
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: on the air. Hello.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Hello, Ron.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead, you old battleaxe. I mean, sweetheart.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. This is Jane from Butler, PA, calling.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: You've heard of that. I just was wondering if any
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: of your other listeners enjoyed their afternoon here yesterday as
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: I did. I watched Newsmax all afternoon, and it was
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: a day of prayer for our country. There were over
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: 15,000 people on the D.C. Mall.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Probably not. Probably you're saying, do you think a lot
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: of people were watching? What was yesterday? Yesterday seemed to
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: me it was a beautiful day. It was Sunday. So
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I doubt that everybody was in the house watching TV
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: and glued to Newsmax and some prayer vigil. I think
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: most people were probably outside enjoying this beautiful day here
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: in the great state of Ohio.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Well, that could be. But they had so many good speakers,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: so much good Christian music, so many prayers.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I was not watching it, I must confess. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: was enjoying life.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad to hear that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: You should get out of the house more on a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: beautiful day.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Well, I did go for a little walk and went
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: to church. But anyway, it was very uplifting to hear
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: so many members of our cabinet, to hear Donald Trump
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: read the Bible.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: But sometimes, I mean, when you hear Trump read the Bible,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's a little bit tough to take just knowing...
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's be realistic. He's a playboy. He's been
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: a playboy. He's been married a number of times. He
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: isn't exactly the most Christian-living guy.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I believe he is now, since the incident.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Well, anything is possible, I'm sure. But the idea that
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: he's a religious person..
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Well, I was wondering if any of your other listeners had...
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: happened to catch part of it anyway. Dr. Ben Carson
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: really impressed me, too.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Most of our listeners are heathens.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Well, now, Ron, I don't think you are. There were many.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Priests there, too.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: It wasn't just one religion. There were many priests there
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: who talked.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to shock you, okay? That's all.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you. She was watching Newsmax yesterday. You're on the air, 347.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Ron Verb, hello.
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: So you missed Newsmax, Ron.
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: It was great.
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: Yesterday, they also announced..
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Why were you watching Newsmax all day yesterday? Wait, wait, wait.
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: Trump announced that we were going to enslave the people
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: of Fort Lauderdale, but it's still a free country because
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: it's only Fort Lauderdale.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: And then And we were going to send the people
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: of Fort Lauderdale to Iran to fight.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, the boots on the ground.
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: I was just thinking, yeah, Frank might appreciate that update.
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: This is just as good as China.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I put Frank in his place. I don't want to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: hear about China. The Chinese economy doesn't, I don't sit
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: thinking about a lot. I think about the American economy.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this. I live in
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the United States of America. The only economy that matters
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to me is this economy. And by the way, Mikel,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the guru of Gerard, how do you assess the economy
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: as we speak today?
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: I think it's bad. I think AI doesn't, No, it's
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: worse than taking jobs. It doesn't know if it's going
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: to take jobs, you know? I mean, there's just nobody
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: knows how to act. There's that part of it. The
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: land grabs and electricity grabs and everything, I just think
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: it needs to be done a little slower, and they're not.
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: And I just... You know, everything costs too much, Ron.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: And just like you said, there's not cars on the road.
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: I'm not driving. I'm not in my backyard painting a building.
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: Because I had the paint and I had the time.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Right. So you think the economy's in a bad spot
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: right now? Yes.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: Yes, I really do.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: And do you sense it's going to be getting better
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: or worse as this war drags on?
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: Apparently, I think worse. because I just don't see how
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: it gets better until we went there, we were, you know,
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: we were kicking butt and everything and destroyed everybody who
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: was in charge, but then we said, oh, now that
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: there's no one in charge, let's talk. You know what
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: I mean? It just doesn't make any sense, man. Like
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: I said, if you're going to fight, fight until there's
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: no one left and everybody's like, okay, whatever you need,
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: we'll do, and then you know you won, and then
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: you can take advantage of it and rebuild the country
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: if you need to, whatever, but Just blowing it up
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: and then waiting to see who comes up and all this.
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: Who's going to come out and do that just out
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: of the goodness of their heart? Maybe they're waiting for
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: a civil war to happen. I don't know, but if so,
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: I think the CIA better get a lot more busy
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: than they are.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And be open-minded. Because whatever that percentage is, and who
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: knows what the percentage is of the Civil War, is
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: it that big a percentage over the people who are
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: opposed to the Civil War? I think you pointed that
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: out on Friday's program, if I'm not mistaken. I mean,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: so it depends what those numbers are. And guess who
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: has all the guns? The people that would be opposed
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: to the Civil War.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: And that's what I mean.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Like, he really..
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: If they went in and just started fighting again now,
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: and maybe there's a chance it could end, but I
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: don't see that happening. It's gotten all political, just like
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: all the other wars that happened over there. You know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: everybody's like, hey, what about my oil?
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: So you think Iran will just kind of wait this out?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: You don't see them saying, after all of this activity
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: so far and everything that's been going on, you don't
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: see them caving into the United States demands at all.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: They seem to be resolute in their position and this
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: continues to drag on yet another week or two or three,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: who knows.
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: They're just playing, they're giving them as much leash as
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: you would give a bad dog, you know? And that's
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: what I think. I hate to say it, they never
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: should have started the war, but if we started it,
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: let's finish it.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I tell you what, he always, I always find him interesting.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: He's a guru to charge. Thank you, Mike. Appreciate it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Back in a minute.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Take care.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKBN. And Ron Firm from the Kingdom
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: of Mahoning, and you're on the air. Hello.
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: Hi, Ron.
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: It isn't much. I hate this thing going on in Iran.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: I just pray for the soldiers that are involved, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: I don't think that Trump has a way out of
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: this that makes him look good, but... I just hope
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: we can get out of it where we don't lose
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: too many more lives. And as far as the economy goes,
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: my economy is doing great. I'm not in the stock market.
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: I'm working. I'm running up and down the road like
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: an idiot and delivering food products or food manufacturing. And
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: it's a beautiful day to be on the road. I'm
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: right beside the Susquehanna River right now going downtown.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: U.S.
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: Route 15, what a gorgeous drive this is.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: So basically, in your world, happy to be alive, great day,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and economically, you're coping with the inflation. Oh, yeah.
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, I should be retired right now, but I'll
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: work and get through this. I'll get through this just fine.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: See, there's a unique perspective, so you're not sitting up
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: worried about it. I appreciate your outlook. I find it refreshing,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: quite frankly, and I appreciate it. Thank you for your call.
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: Keep moving. If you don't, they throw dirt on you.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks for reminding me. I appreciate it. It's getting
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: along so good with him, and then he reminds me
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: of that. All right, stay tuned. Call us online. Stand by.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Long segment coming up. We're here till..
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: From ABC News.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I'm Mike Dabusky.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Right now, police in San Diego are responding to an
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: active shooter situation at a local Islamic center, with the
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: department calling the scene active but contained.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Multiple victims. Shooters are not in custody.
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: He continues to have an increased presence.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: That sound from Broadcastify. San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria posting
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: on social media that he's receiving updates from law enforcement.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: California Governor Gavin Newsom has also been briefed on the situation.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: President Trump now says serious discussions are taking place with
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Iran and is calling off strikes on the country that
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: had been planned for tomorrow. More from ABC's James Longman.
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: What Donald Trump seems to want is an agreement now
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: that not only will Iran open the Strait of Hormuz,
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: but it'll also agree... to his nuclear demands. And that
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: is to say, and we understand, and it was clear
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: last week, the president believes that Iran's commitment to stopping
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: enriching uranium for a period of 20 years is something
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: that he wants and he would accept in any deal.
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: But the Iranians don't want.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: To get there.
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: They want to talk about Hormuz first. We're seeing Iran
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: and the United States come at this from two different directions.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: President Trump earlier today announced he's dropping his lawsuit against
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: the IRS as part of the settlement. The Department of
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Justice will create a fund of taxpayer dollars to finance
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: payments to people who claim to have been victimized by
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: the government. An American who'd been working for the Democratic
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Republic of the Congo has tested positive for Ebola.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Dr.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Satish Pillai is the CDC's incident manager for Ebola response.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: CDC has been working hand in hand with the Department
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: of State to move the American for treatment and care
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: to Germany.
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: And other high-risk contacts to Germany for monitoring.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: The World Health Organization calls the Ebola outbreak a public
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: health emergency of international concern. There are currently 88 suspected
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: deaths from the virus. And a jury in California has
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  Speaker 3: tossed out Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.
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