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Boxing On TNT Was A HUGE Success · The Mixed Company Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In this corner, standing at six foot five, weight class unknowns,
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  Speaker 1: Put your hands together for Louis Montemao.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to another edition of the Mix Company podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, I'm one half of the show. I'm my
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  Speaker 2: name is Jamison. As always, I'm joyned by Louise Louis.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on, man, Well, Jamison, we are here to
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  Speaker 3: talk about boxing, but I got to take a minute
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  Speaker 3: a second here to shout out Mexico, specifically Las alex Nao,
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  Speaker 3: the Mexican soccer team. Over this past weekend, they were
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  Speaker 3: eliminated from the World Cup, but man, I had a
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  Speaker 3: great time watching all their games. I got really invested.
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  Speaker 3: I've never been this invested in soccer in the World
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  Speaker 3: Cup until this year, and it was really cool. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I felt like I was really expending my horizons. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, also, you know, I'm from Texas. My parents
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  Speaker 3: are both from Mexico, so it was really cool. Seeing
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  Speaker 3: online everybody having a great time visiting there, with all
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  Speaker 3: the people there, the celebrations, and just really just kind
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  Speaker 3: of put the country to new light to a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people in the world. All the friendship that Mexico
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  Speaker 3: had with the South Korean fans, and how they treated
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  Speaker 3: the Iranian team after they were screwed over by FIFA,
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  Speaker 3: all of that. I just wanted to take a second
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  Speaker 3: to say, man, I've never had this much fun during
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  Speaker 3: World Cup season, and we are ultimately a sports show,
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  Speaker 3: so I wanted to go shout out, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was disappointing, but it was so cool to experience
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  Speaker 3: that those games with the crowd. It wasn't exactly how
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  Speaker 3: I felt watching boxing with a group of people, but
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  Speaker 3: it got damn close. So shout out to the amazing
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  Speaker 3: times that I had, you know, in the last few
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  Speaker 3: weeks with the Mexico team. But like I said, we're
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  Speaker 3: here to talk about boxing, so let's get right to it.
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  Speaker 3: We want to talk about the big the big event
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  Speaker 3: over the weekend. Mason had a really great match against
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  Speaker 3: Albert Bell last past Saturday on July fourth. I'll start here.
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  Speaker 3: Last episode. I feel bad because last episode or the
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  Speaker 3: other I said, Abdullah Mason is fighting. They swapped out
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  Speaker 3: his opponent. I don't remember who it is. I just
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  Speaker 3: care about seeing Abdullah, And I feel bad that I
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  Speaker 3: didn't give props to or do any research in Alberbella,
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  Speaker 3: because that man was put in a great performance in
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  Speaker 3: the first half of the fight. And I just wanted
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  Speaker 3: to see what your thoughts were. And also, you know,
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  Speaker 3: did you watch it at home? Did you bring people
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  Speaker 3: over for the fourth what was your weekend? Like?
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  Speaker 4: So it was late at night.
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  Speaker 2: It started cars started early with the fight and happened
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  Speaker 2: to like like nine our.
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  Speaker 4: Time, if I'm not mistaken, Yeah, thereabouts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was later at night. I was chilling
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  Speaker 2: out the crib. I had somewhere to go after but no,
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  Speaker 2: I was chilling. I'll watch them fight. And first of all,
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  Speaker 2: the TNG production wasn't bad for its first like go around.
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  Speaker 4: I was rather impressed, like.
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  Speaker 2: Because normally, you know, boxing reduction could hit of miss
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  Speaker 2: spending on who's running it and what's going on. They
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  Speaker 2: were on top of it. They were on the ball.
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  Speaker 2: With that being said, that fight was very entertaining. Even
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  Speaker 2: if you know the stoppage is gonna be what's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be The scorecards were what they were, but the fight
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  Speaker 2: was entertaining. You had a guy that no one really
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  Speaker 2: knew and he faw his ass off for like seven
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  Speaker 2: eight rounds and he gave real doubts and that fight,
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  Speaker 2: he gave some real concerns to the guy that was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to walk through him. And that's always interesting because
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  Speaker 2: first come around, Hey it is what it is, feel
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  Speaker 2: out processed, all right, whatever? Right around four or five,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, hey, man, like might want to wake up,
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  Speaker 2: might want to get you know, because everybody's scorecard is different,
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  Speaker 2: Like the scorecard on the TV was similar to a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the people's scorecards that were watching the fight
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  Speaker 2: that we were talking.
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  Speaker 4: People were talking back and forth like hey, what do
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  Speaker 4: you think is going on? What do you like? It
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  Speaker 4: was more to what's on TV than what the judges had,
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  Speaker 4: that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: With all that being said, Yo, Abdulla Mason did wake
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  Speaker 2: up around around six seven, and then he showed he
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  Speaker 2: was a superior fighter. But it's a very very risky play. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't home, and I get it he probably wasn't
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  Speaker 2: gonna lose, but man, he did not look in press
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  Speaker 2: in the first five rounds.
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  Speaker 4: He did get in sorted out to come to finish
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  Speaker 4: the show.
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  Speaker 2: He did do that, but he was very, very risky
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  Speaker 2: because that could win a different direction with a better
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  Speaker 2: fighter than Alburbil.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred percent, And just a little background here. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Abdula Mason is twenty two. He's the youngest world champ
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  Speaker 3: I believe. Ever, Albabella is thirty three. And no disrespect
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  Speaker 3: to anybody, but if you're over thirty and you're boxing,
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  Speaker 3: you were an old man. Let's speak clear about that.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's a young man's game. But yeah, I one
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  Speaker 3: hundred percent. Alberbell won the first half of that fight.
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  Speaker 3: Uh And actually I just realize now I didn't really
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  Speaker 3: go back to see the scorecards, but watching it, I
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  Speaker 3: believed that Albert Bell won all six rounds starting off.
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  Speaker 3: So Mason, you know, the question here is is he
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  Speaker 3: still not tested enough or was he you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you could throw a couple of rounds away, start slow
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  Speaker 3: timing somebody, get to know them and download information and
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  Speaker 3: then coming strong. A lot of our favorite fighters have
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  Speaker 3: done that. I don't know. I mean, I obviously he
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  Speaker 3: adjusted halfway through the fight, which is what the greats
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  Speaker 3: do have to do. What are your thoughts on Mason
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  Speaker 3: being not yet seasoned or whether he did exactly what
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  Speaker 3: he needed to do in his career at this point.
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  Speaker 2: So it's always good to see guys challenged, even though
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  Speaker 2: if it's self inflicted. It's always good to see guys
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  Speaker 2: have to fight when things aren't great. You want adversity,
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  Speaker 2: not to adversity now, but you want adversity. You want
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  Speaker 2: to see what brings what eversity brings out of boxers.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you always want to see because we've seen
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  Speaker 2: it too many times on the big screen that hey,
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  Speaker 2: this first time I ever got an university.
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  Speaker 4: They know how to react.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to face adversity in these fights to where hey,
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of get it, dig your own whole out,
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  Speaker 2: figure it out, get the w rather than take the
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  Speaker 2: you know phase diversity. It quite goes so well on
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  Speaker 2: the bigger screen, bigger scale, and then all bets are
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  Speaker 2: kind of off.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't mind it in that form.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's a young guy, you know, being twenty two
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  Speaker 2: in a World champions is a very special thing. It's
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  Speaker 2: only been a handful of other guys of that age
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  Speaker 2: that have ever been world champis that is a special thing. However,
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  Speaker 2: with that being said, I need to talk to the corner.
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  Speaker 2: Why is your guy who was heavily favored in at home,
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  Speaker 2: why is he looking like this the first half of
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  Speaker 2: the fight when the fights he's rumored for going forward,
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  Speaker 2: he can't come out like this, can't like that's not
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  Speaker 2: gonna work. So my thing is this, what was the
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  Speaker 2: game plan is it? Did they chill because there find
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  Speaker 2: a replacement guy from the crib.
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  Speaker 4: Like I need to.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very curious on what was going on because a
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  Speaker 2: guy that good should not look that bad versus then
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  Speaker 2: Albert Bell no offense at all. Alabella fought hell of fight.
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  Speaker 2: He'll probably had a few more fights based off this
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  Speaker 2: performance alone. However, like you mentioned, he's in his thirties,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and it's gonna be with Tonba. He's not
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  Speaker 2: gonna have no tenure more year of this. He's gonna
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  Speaker 2: have a few more fights, make a little bit of bucks,
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  Speaker 2: and that's gonna be it.
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  Speaker 4: So what the hell happened to the first half of
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  Speaker 4: the fight.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be my biggest concern because he was not prepared
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  Speaker 2: and he did not look interested, and neither of those
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  Speaker 2: things are good and that can't happen if the rumors
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  Speaker 2: are some of the guys he's thinking about fighting or
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  Speaker 2: you're talk on him fighting.
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  Speaker 4: That ain't gonna work with some guys.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you know, I think he did a great job.
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  Speaker 3: Abdula Mason did a great job, you know, attacking the
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  Speaker 3: body in the second half of the of the fight.
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  Speaker 3: The announcers were also kind of saying, like, this is
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  Speaker 3: what you needed to be doing. Albert Bell's taller had
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  Speaker 3: more reach. But also, yeah, they did say that at
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  Speaker 3: thirty three, this is Albert Bell's first title shot so ever,
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  Speaker 3: so yeah, it could also be. You know, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a professional. This is a question that I would have
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  Speaker 3: if and when we interview another professional fighter. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: how much time do you need to study a fighter
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  Speaker 3: to really get an idea of what your game plan
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  Speaker 3: is going to be? You know, I think they switched
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  Speaker 3: that Rebell out the week before or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, does it do you need a couple
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  Speaker 3: of weeks you need a month to study? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: looking at tape, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So looking at how easily Albert wore down, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you need that much time. I think it's one
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  Speaker 2: of those things where you're a fire like Abdula Mason,
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  Speaker 2: you should be, you should be a superior fighter. So
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  Speaker 2: there's certain things that you should already have that should
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  Speaker 2: be an issue out there friends and they know each
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  Speaker 2: other for a long time. That's a whole different conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Then that's that's a little bit different. With that being said, though,
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  Speaker 2: still should be superior. Still shouldn't matter. We're facing at
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  Speaker 2: like that that's not really ranked and no one they
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  Speaker 2: were heard of. That shouldn't be a thing like that
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be No why you know, there shouldn't be an issue.
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  Speaker 2: Put it that way, There shouldn't be an issue. You
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  Speaker 2: should take care of business relatively easily.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did say that the two our friends
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  Speaker 3: and their buddies, they've sparred before. But yeah, no, that's
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  Speaker 3: that's a really good point. I mean, at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the day, your if your skills are where Abdulla
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  Speaker 3: Masons are and will continue will continue to grow as such. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this probably shouldn't been as hard of a fight. I
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  Speaker 3: say that never having stepped in the ring myself. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, I always make it clear that you know
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  Speaker 3: I'm not the one in there getting my ass kicked.
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  Speaker 3: But but no, I mean, definitely a lot of respect.
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  Speaker 3: I did kind of expect a little bit of what
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  Speaker 3: happened was that Albert Belt came out strong. But again,
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  Speaker 3: you know, being over thirty, he was gonna cast out yep,
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  Speaker 3: And I did expect an Abdullah knockout. I'm surprised it
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  Speaker 3: took till round twelve. I gotta be honest. We were
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  Speaker 3: in the group chat and I was saying, this could
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  Speaker 3: be a draw, and I'm gonna be pissed if that's
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  Speaker 3: a draw.
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  Speaker 2: It was leaning that way until like round eleven, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know he has nothing left. Well, the punchs that
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  Speaker 2: had nothing on them, he wasn't moving. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is like this is you know, it's not looking good.
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  Speaker 2: But he almost made it. He almost made it, and
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  Speaker 2: he could argument that the stoppage was a big conversial. However,
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  Speaker 2: it felt like the stoppage was coming one way or another.
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  Speaker 2: It felt like the stopping was inevitable, whether it was
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  Speaker 2: in or ten seconds later or fifteen seconds later, it
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  Speaker 2: was a matter of time.
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  Speaker 4: So it was what it was.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it was an egregious stoppage, but when
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  Speaker 2: you could tell when a guy has nothing left, so
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  Speaker 2: protect the guy, let him get a few other fights
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  Speaker 2: out there for you know, let him get some more
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  Speaker 2: money later this year.
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  Speaker 4: I don't mind it at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And yeah, I also agreed that the stoppage
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  Speaker 3: wasn't like ridiculous or anything. And in a situation like that,
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  Speaker 3: it's probably better to be safe than sorry, because yes,
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  Speaker 3: a stoppage would have come ten fifteen seconds later, but
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  Speaker 3: that could have been really bad for Albert Bell. So
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  Speaker 3: I was cool with it.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The fight in itself was very exciting. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: still don't think that I don't know Mason is overrated
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  Speaker 3: or that you know, he doesn't have it or anything.
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  Speaker 3: He just faced him adversity and that happened, and that's okay.
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  Speaker 3: I purposefully didn't look at any of the guy damn
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  Speaker 3: Instagram comments, which is the thing I've complained about the most.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm sure there's people saying like, oh, this guy
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  Speaker 3: couldn't even knock out a nobody, yeah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: But no he did though, so technically sure, sure, absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just say kind of the idea. I guess here,
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, is that the expectation for boxers, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's can be honestly a little unfair from fans that
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  Speaker 3: you know, because he didn't he didn't get a first
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  Speaker 3: round knockout t KO that you know, he's not good
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  Speaker 3: enough for any of that stuff. We've seen it a
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  Speaker 3: million times. But I think that's you know a lot
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  Speaker 3: of that is ridiculous. But no really entertaining fight. The
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  Speaker 3: ones before that, the Shushi Carington one less entertaining, very technical,
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  Speaker 3: very good, but you know not as you know, the
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  Speaker 3: announcers made a really good point, you know that they
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  Speaker 3: were they weren't seeing any fireworks in the previous fights,
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  Speaker 3: and July fourth, that's what people wanted to see. Uh
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  Speaker 3: And in that sense, yeah, the main event delivered, I believe.
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  Speaker 2: So I was saying the last two years, like if
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  Speaker 2: you have boxing on people, if you have good fights
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  Speaker 2: on people, watch on fourth July, Like people will find
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  Speaker 2: way to watch it, won't.
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  Speaker 3: It never fails, right exactly? And uh yeah, I decided
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  Speaker 3: I actually didn't go out at all. I was solo
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  Speaker 3: all weekend, so I just decided to make some food,
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  Speaker 3: drink at home, turn on the TV and had a
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  Speaker 3: great time, just very very chill, relaxing. And yeah, definitely
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  Speaker 3: props to TNT. You know, so far, so good on
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  Speaker 3: their production. Like you said, very cool to see Sean
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  Speaker 3: Porter and Bud Crawford doing commentary friend of the show
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  Speaker 3: Sean Porter another thing. Yeah, turn on the TV and still, man,
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  Speaker 3: it can't get over and I see him. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I talked to that guy. I asked him questions. It's
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  Speaker 3: coolest shit. It just has that the experience, you know,
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  Speaker 3: seeing that hasn't faded for me personally. But yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm still excited to see what what Abdulla Mason has
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  Speaker 3: coming up now and to watch his next fight and
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  Speaker 3: to see him grow at twenty two. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 3: it's nothing like you want to talk about ten years
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  Speaker 3: in the ring. He's definitely could have that as long
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  Speaker 3: as he keeps his shit together, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: keeps stays out of trouble outside the ring, as you
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  Speaker 3: know we've talked about many times. But yeah, props to
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  Speaker 3: to TNT for putting that on. And and also don't
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  Speaker 3: forget everybody this TNT events. They're a monthly event. So
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  Speaker 3: the one, the next one coming up is Lamont Roach
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  Speaker 3: versus Williams depend on August first, and I'm already stoked.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: So same.
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  Speaker 3: Another thing we have to talk about that night. The
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  Speaker 3: elephant in the room is the whole open scoring controversy.
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  Speaker 3: So just to give a little background to people who
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  Speaker 3: might not maybe didn't see the previous fight, the WBC,
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  Speaker 3: they announced the official judges scorecards during the fight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that hardly ever happens. I believe they said that happens
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  Speaker 3: in the amateurs, but it's happened.
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  Speaker 2: In profiles before. There's been a several other fights I
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  Speaker 2: remember happening. I've never been a fan of it though.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not boxing. That's not boxing, Like, that's not
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  Speaker 2: the boxing we know. That's not It's not good because
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  Speaker 2: it impacts the fighters a lot.
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  Speaker 4: It's just it's just not good. It's not good. There's
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  Speaker 4: no benefit for my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I want to get your take on specifically
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  Speaker 3: what a couple of the announcers says. So both Sean
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  Speaker 3: Porter and Tim Bradley were there, and they said that
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  Speaker 3: it in their minds, it could benefit the fighter because
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  Speaker 3: they can adjust based on where they are in the fight.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that I agree, but I just wanted
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  Speaker 3: to get your take on that.
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  Speaker 4: So that's part of it. You definitely can adjust. I
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  Speaker 4: do understand that process.
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  Speaker 2: My old thing is it keeps you unfocused because now
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  Speaker 2: you're thinking about what the scorecard is instead of just boxing,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that can impact how you box, instead
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  Speaker 2: of just going straight and forward and boxing and letting
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  Speaker 2: the cars let why are they may? I think focusing
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  Speaker 2: on the score, trying to score, you know, try to
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  Speaker 2: win around when you don't know, you know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: a lot of It's another thing to think about the
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  Speaker 2: boxing that you shouldn't. In my opinion, I think that
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  Speaker 2: let the score and be the scoring. But we don't
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  Speaker 2: need to hear every round or every fourth round or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: We don't need that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd actually thought about it a lot. I've been
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  Speaker 3: thinking about a lot over the weekend because I don't
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say I have a really strong opinion
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  Speaker 3: on it either way, but I definitely had some thoughts, like,
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  Speaker 3: for example, Tim Bradley kept hitting the fact that every
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  Speaker 3: other sport has it, every other sport, you know what
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  Speaker 3: the score is, Yeah, but boxing is not like any
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  Speaker 3: other sport. I'm sorry, right, I get there. You can't
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: compare it for so many reasons. You know, there's no timeout,
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: so there's no hydration breaks like Zucker had, There's no halftime.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm okay with boxing being different from any
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: other sport. That's why we love it. And they also
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: kept bringing up the Bud Crawford versus Sean Porter fight.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: If any of you all remember, there was an awesome
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: moment where Bud Crawford was told by his corner, you know,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Sean Porter is up on the score cards. Nobody knew
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: that for sure. It was just kind of the corner
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: guessing and Bud Crafford goes, oh, he's up all right,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: bet and cooked and niggering kicked Sewan Porter's ass. And
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: people were saying Tim Bradleys say, well, what if if
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Bud Crawford didn't think he was down on the score cards,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't have put on the gas. It's Bud Crawford, man,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: he was going to put on the fucking gas. I'm sorry, Like,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: that's that's not a reason to use open scoring. So
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I kind of felt that those situations there, how about this,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: those two reasons of all the sports do it, and
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: you can turn up the hit the pedal to the
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: medal not good enough reasons to start using it. Honestly,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: in my opinion.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I agree, I agree.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing I think we can all agree on.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: There is no goddamn reason why Jimmy Lennon the announcer
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: should have actually announced the scores in the middle of
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: a round. That's ridiculous.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Yea cool.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: You want to talk about people not being focused on boxing.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: That shit. So if for those of you who didn't
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: see the fight at the beginning or I don't even remember,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: maybe like round four or something, they put the official
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: score cards on the screen, Jimmy Lennon the announcer was
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: going to say something, the mic didn't work, whatever it
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: is didn't happen. Then later he did pop up and said,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, as of now, the judges scorecards are
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. That's bullshit, Like it's right when the
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: guys were throwing punches, like you shouldn't be distracted by anything.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: The only thing they should stop the around is like
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: head butts, you know, the typical things like mouthpiece and
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: it all should come from the ref by the way,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: not the damn announcer. That's right, unless I don't know.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: They say there's a bomb in the building, then yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: go ahead, that's different.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was ridiculous. I think the announcers were
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: all pretty much on board with that. I mean, there's
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: you you have a whole minute in between if you
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: really really want to do it, you have sixty seconds
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: in between rounds to announce that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I at the end of the day, I'm gonna say
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I would prefer it if open scoring wasn't a thing.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: It's not necessary, we don't need it. We've gone there's
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: been too many fights without it to not mattering.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And and really another thing too, that's as a viewer,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's pretty cool to not know and you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: have that sense of surprise at the end of it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Another thing that.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Was being robbed.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: That's not good either, right. A guy is fighting his
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: ass off and he should be up, he's not. That's
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: never good either, right. Yeah.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: And you know they were talking about transparency in the
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: box and judging, but like, if somebody is judging poorly,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: putting their scorecards out there isn't gonna make a difference,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, they're still gonna it's It's
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: not like a judge is going to be shamed midway
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: through for you know, giving rounds to somebody that shouldn't
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: have won them or whatever it is. You know, the
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: game is the game. They're gonna do what they're gonna do. Yeah,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: so uh yeah, so far, I've not seen a real
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: compelling reason to do it. If if the WBC decides
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: to continue this, and if they announce it in between rounds,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I'm also not going to be up in arms. I'm
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: not going to be like, oh, this is bullshit every
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: every week on the show. I'm not going to be
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: complaining about it. I just think there's no real reason
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: for it. But that makes sense. But yeah, but I
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: don't know, I mean, I for now, if for those
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: of who don't know, there's different boxing commissions, WBO, WBC,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: et cetera. Right now, it's only the WBC that's trying this,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: and uh, there's now with several reasons why I've you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: been really annoyed with the WBC specifically over the years,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: and they're just you're you're not helping man, You're not
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: making you're not making a case for yourself WBC with
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: this ship. Yeah, but but yeah, like I said, next month,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: August first is the the Lamann Motions versus Williams of
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Pether fight. We already talked about it in the previous episode,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: but at that time I didn't realize it was another
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: TNT production. Yeah, so I don't know how long the
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: contract is for TNT and de Zone to air on
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: regular TV, but honestly, I gotta say, it hasn't been
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: that long that we've gone without boxing on regular live,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: linear television. But it already felt like a breath of
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: fresh air as far as.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I'm so professional, right, it felt like a standard sporting
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: event with real money behind it, like real real ship
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: behind it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: It was refreshing to see one.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Hundred percent, and it's of course it was still streaming
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: on the Zones app. But I don't see any reason
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: why they can't do more events like this. Doesn't have
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: to be every single week and doesn't have to be
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: every single fight. But let's be real, We've talked about
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: this before. Not every fight is a paper Vega fight, true, true, Yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: there are no disrespect to you know, like Abdula Mason,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: who is a great fighter and the star. But I
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: don't think it takes away from him, you know, being
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: on ESPN for free, being on TNT for free, and well.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: There's things though.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You gotta realize it. Tn T is just as big
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: as any other. It's just as big as me. When
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: it comes like a cable situation. Tn T is on Hotel, TVs,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: bar TVs. Everybody got tn T. So some go on
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: TNT and you need to watch it. If you're on
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: a plane, you go watch it. It's a it's a
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: big deal, like it's a it's a breath of fresh
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: air that the TNT is showing boxing.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Agreed. I hope it continues. And like I said, I
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: had stayed in h Saturday night, and I intended to anyway.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: But it's cool knowing that if I wanted to go out,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I could find a dive bar and if they had
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: a couple of TVs. If I don't think there was
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: any other mad Your event Saturday night, but I could
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: have asked the bartender, Hey, can you change the channel
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: on this TV so I can watch boxing? And I know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I know for a fact a lot of places that
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I go to would do that for me because they've
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: done it before. Yeah, when when Top Rank was on ESPN,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: so right, now this is to I'll speak for myself personally,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: and you know what what I like and what my
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: experience are. This is the best thing that could happen
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: to boxing this year, is yeah, So please y'all if
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you can get get boxing back on regular TV whatever
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: hell should you get back on HBO even stuff like that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: That that that ship is sailed. I know, I know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I know, yeah, that ship is saled. So some time
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: everything else.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: The key is this T and T is good because
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: there you're not fighting with anything else.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: They don't have any other like a live stuff going
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: on right now.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: They have like college football, they have college sports and whatnot,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: but right now, see in the evening they have boxing.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Like they can market way differently. They can create their
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: own promos. The thing with boxing that's unique is you
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: have to sell the fight. You got to sell fighters.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: TNT has the budget, the means, and the network to
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: actually do that. So even though this fight went well,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: going forward, you probably see more promo, You probably see
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: more production behind the scenes and pre fight and next
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: fight they are a promo. They're already public other fights
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that are gonna happen this month and August, so that's
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: where it's like, you know what forge everybody else like,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: if they don't want to be involved, they don't be involved.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: If TNT is taking the initiative to do this, TNT
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: does very good work with sports, very very good work.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Like I was thoroughly impressed for it being their first gig,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: like that was very impressed.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and also, yeah, you made a good point about
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: promoting upcoming fights. They weren't just promoting next month's TNT event.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: They're promoting all the other stuff on his own exactly.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: So you kind of get people, you know, hopping back
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: and forth from both both the app and the TV.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I think that's cool. So yeah, as our I got
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: to quote our our producer Jabari Davis because I don't
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: want to take credit for this one, but he said,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: you know, shout out to the Shah Shank Redemption Network
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: because that was that should I remember that you're just
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: being on all that time on d n T, so
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: that never what.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: You call the The New York Cop Show.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: For years on it as for you as Yeah, yep, yep, yeah, I've.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Actually never watched any like TNT original programming. I know
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: they had their own shows like every cable channel did.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I've never really had any experience with it, but man,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I never thought i'd say this in twenty twenty six,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: but shout out to tn T. You guys are awesome.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I love y'all.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Keep doing what you're doing.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: No, definitely, well.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Those are the main things we wanted to go over
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: in this little shorty episode. But man, July is still
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: just getting started, and you know, we're gonna be the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: mid Company podcast is gonna be with you through a
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: lot of these upcoming fights. So not everything is like
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that I'm super personally excited, but there
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: are some fights coming up with names. You know, Anthony
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Joshua is going to be fighting it in July. Tyson
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Fury just quietly put himself on the schedule in July
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: as well. I just noticed that before we got on
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the air. Ero Spence is coming back, Richardson Hitchins, Edgar Burlega.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: If you're Puerto Rican and for no other reason, I've.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Never seen dude like being impressed in the ring. I'm sorry,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I've never seen it. I've never seen I've done against
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: dude like I've done against dude. I'm not I don't
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: really care like that. I've just I've never been impressed
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: with him. But like you said, he's Puerto Rican, He's
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: fights on the East Coast a lot. It's about money.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I get it, I get it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I agree, I don't. I also don't dislike him or
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: have anything against them. But you know what I got
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: to tell you, I'll speak for myself personally. I want
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: to speak for you or the show. I love Shitty
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: go Edgar Berlega. It's kind of really fun anyway, Jamison.
• 25:56
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• 25:58
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