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Pam Walck’s Inspiring Story of Faith in Action (Replay) · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
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  Good, rough to a great start, and that is in part due to the wonderful guests that I get to talk with.
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  just came across this show randomly, but we know there are no coincidences in God's kingdom,
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  so it's not random if you're watching. No mistakes.
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  I want to share a couple of scriptures since we are all about the biblical world view.
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  Before we get to our guest, Pam, walk today, great book, by the way, Bridge of Love.
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  We'll get to that in a minute, but Psalm 90 verse 2 says,
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  before the mountains were born, or you gave birth to the earth and the world,
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  even from everlasting to everlasting, you are God.
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  And one more, it says in Hebrews chapter 1 verse 10,
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  you Lord, in the beginning, laid the foundation of the earth,
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  and the heavens are the works of your hands. That's from Hebrews 1, 10.
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  So I want to bring in our guest today, Pam, walk, author, speaker, survivor of stage 4 lung cancer,
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  she explored multiple religions until she found the one true God.
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  Now after finding her father dead in their basement and experiencing the deaths of numerous
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  patients of various beliefs, she started to think about eternity. She'll tell you more about
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  her story in a minute, but she worked as a physical therapist most of her adult life,
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  and she graduated with a master's degree from Dallas Theological Seminary.
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  She taught Bible studies, worked with the homeless, served on multiple overseas missions trips,
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  and she lives near beautiful Niagara Falls, New York. Pam, walk, welcome to World View Matters.
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  Thank you, David. It's great to be here.
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  Great to see you. We've talked before, but that was over the phone.
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  Yes, so it's great to do this and connect this way, and I'm so blessed to be able to get your book
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  out there to more people, because it's, bring up the cover, Jeff. It's called,
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  Bridge of Love, 30 true stories of faith in action. So we're going to talk about some of those
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  stories with Pam. But first, you've been, you've been a busy little bee, as they say. I've seen,
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  you know, follow you on Facebook. You're always going to different stores and different events and
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  setting up a table. And God bless you. That's what you have to do as a Christian author or, you know,
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  an independent author. That's what you have to do to get the word out. So what do you have coming
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  up and what have you been doing, Pam? Well, I published the book in the end of 2022, December,
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  and I've just been doing book signings, and I've spoken at some women's conferences,
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  some churches, and I've got a few different things coming up in October. But generally,
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  most of my book signings are locally, but I definitely would be willing to do things elsewhere.
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  I really want to meet new people, because when you, when you do a book signing event,
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  you meet so many new people that have read your book or have not read the book yet. And I just
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  enjoy meeting people. Yeah. Well, I hope you can get out there because you've got a great story.
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  I love your heart for the gospel and for evangelism. And just appreciate all that you're doing,
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  just following you. It's a blessing. So before we get into the book, tell us a little bit about
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  your coming down with cancer or being diagnosed. When was that? And I think you've even got
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  something coming up. You're going in for a regular scan to maybe, you know, check from time to time.
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  Tell us about how that's going and just what you overcame. Yeah. So two years ago, it's exactly
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  almost two years. I was praying for my mom. She's 95. And I was praying for her when she goes to
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  batter in the morning. And I was praying for her. And all of a sudden, I couldn't breathe. Like,
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  I felt really short of breath. And I thought to myself, this is really strange, because I've
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  never had health problems. I go to the gym all the time. And I've been a physical therapist
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  the past 28 years. And I thought, you know, this is kind of weird. Well, the next night,
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  and then when I laid down on my bed, I could hear an inspiration when I was breathing in. I could
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  hear these abnormal crackles, which, which, you know, in medical terms, they would call it rails.
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  And I thought that is not normal. That's like a sign of congestive heart failure or something
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  like that, something serious. So I called my doctor. I saw the nurse practitioner because he was
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  out of town. And she basically dismissed it and said that I was fine. It was probably just allergies.
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  And I said, I don't have any allergies. So then when I, I stuck my phone in my mouth,
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  and I tape recorded it, you know, I recorded it. And I sent it to my doctor because I know him.
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  He was on vacation. He said, I needed an immediate chest x-ray. He had the chest x-ray done. They
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  said I had pneumonia. So then I was put on zythromax, which is an antibiotic for several days. And
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  it was not helping. And I was really short of breath. I was like, you know, I couldn't breathe at all.
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  And I called them off. And I said, listen, I can't breathe. He's like, go to the emergency room.
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  So I went to the emergency room. And there was an older man there, an older duck.
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  Drone he said, he did a CAT scan. And he came back and he said, I think you have lung cancer.
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  I was like, what? I'm like, no way. I said, you know, it's probably a nodule from the pneumonia.
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  He said, well, I've been wrong before. So the next day I went to the hospital that I
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  worked at Eerie County Medical Center or work day, because now I'm retired. And I saw
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  pulmonologists there and I could barely breathe. And they decided to hospitalized me.
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  And while hospitalized, they were giving me IV antibiotics and they took out
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  almost a little from my right lung. And, you know, I'm still thinking I have pneumonia. And
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  the following week, I was discharged after a few days. The following week, I went in to see
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  the pulmonologist with my brother-in-law. And I just couldn't, I was shocked. I mean, they said
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  age for lung cancer. And it just like, you know, it just changes your world when somebody
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  tells you that. And I've never smoked even one cigarette in my life. And that's why I just
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  came out of nowhere. It, you know, like I said, it was like when I was praying for my madam. And
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  all of a sudden, it just comes out of nowhere. Wow. So, yeah. I'm really rough. So I went up,
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  I'll go ahead. How has God used that? Because obviously, you're a strong believer. And we trust in
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  God's sovereignty. We don't always understand, or we most often don't understand, just events and
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  why things happen. But I'm sure that has deepened your faith in some way. Before we get into your
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  book, Bridge of Love, tell us a little bit about that. Has that deepened your faith what you've
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  been through in the last couple of years? Yeah. I mean, I've gone through trials before. And when
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  I was a younger Christian, I went through Crohn's disease and colitis. And that's in my book,
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  Bridge of Love, chapter 29. I mean, it was several years later, but I'm not even talking remission.
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  He healed it. And the doctors couldn't believe that they couldn't find any evidence of it. And I've
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  been, you know, I was fine ever since I could eat whatever I wanted. I didn't have any stomach pain
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  anymore. None of that. So I went through. That was a really big health trial for me. And I've
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  gone through some other trials too. But this was, this has been the largest trial. I'm on chemo
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  right now. I go actually for chemo in two days. And I have a CAT scan tonight. They scan me every
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  three months. I'm on Tigrasso, which is a target drug for a genetic mutation. But the biggest thing
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  with me for the Lord is I know he's with me and I know he can heal me. He is the healer. And he
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  does. And that's what I'm, I just keep saying I pray and I say, Lord, please manifest your healing
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  on this earth. And I really try to stay positive because it's so easy to get, you know, fear can
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  come into you and you can get depressed or start feeling like, you know, this is horrifying and
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  going through these things. So I went through like 40 long drains between 2021 and 2020
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  to floreks and me and the nurse would come to the house. And so all of that can get very
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  overwhelming emotional. So I have to stay in the word. I stay in the word and I have scriptures
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  that I go over every day, healing scriptures. And I mean, I'm not kidding. I slept for six months
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  in a recliner upright to a clock in the morning. Sometimes I would call into a prayer hotline
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  because, you know, it does. It's overwhelming sometimes. And I would need this work.
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  So and it does help because the Christian community can help you through things. Yep. And we
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  are to bear one another's burdens. And I want to ask right now, if you're a Christian believer watching
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  this, listening to this, pray right now for Pam walk, pray for her in Jesus name that God would touch
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  her, sustain her, heal her spirit, soul and body and bless her life because God is using her in a
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  big way. Not a lot of people do the work that you're doing, Pam. I just want to ask you, what made
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  you quit your job as a physical therapist? And then not only just, you know, try to do something
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  maybe locally, you went to Dallas, theological seminary, you wanted to go deeper and just get
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  that theological training. What led you to that decision? Yeah. So I was a physician only like a year
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  or two. And I was working at a different hospital. And I was just, you know, I was on acute care.
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  So I was going room to room and seeing different patients. And so many of them had very, very
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  serious health concerns. And some of them were dying. And a lot of the people that I met were
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  of other faith. Muslim, Hindu, no faith, atheist, Jewish, non-believer. And I was praying. I was
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  not in these praying all the time for them and asking the Lord to save them. And I started sharing
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  the gas, both different places. You know, besides work, I was also sharing it, you know, wherever I was.
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  I could be at a party. I could be in any event. I just, I apparently God has given me somewhat of
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  the gift of evangelism. So I was sharing the gas. And I really felt led that I wanted to do more
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  than just help somebody with a shoulder injury or a stroke or anything. I mean, that's important.
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  It's very important to help people with their health. But at the same time, I thought if I could
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  help them eternally, that's even more important because that's eternity. And our life is such a
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  vapor. It's such a small amount of time that we're here compared to eternity. So I started looking
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  for paleges or programs and so forth. And I know this is a lot of reputation. And I just felt
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  led to go there. So I just, I quit my job at that. And I moved down. And it was a big move, huge
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  move. My family couldn't believe it. They thought I was going to think, you know, and I said,
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  no, people do do these things. People do go to seminarian. People do go to buy school. And so I was
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  down there and I got my masters. And that's what led me into going on a mission to Africa. And,
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  you know, yeah, I just, I really am grateful that I went. It was a tough program. But I'm very
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  grateful for the foundation of education that I got down there. Wow. What a blessing, what a
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  blessing, Pam. Yeah, that's just amazing that you made that move and did that. I think, and then
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  going to Africa, a lot of people are living vicariously through you. I'm going to quit my job and
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  go to seminary. And by the way, good choice because I was just talking with a pastor friend yesterday,
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  how a lot of the seminaries have dropped the belief in the inerrancy of scripture. And once you
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  compromise there, you're just going to start compromising and little doctrines in the essentials
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  of the faith. And then they start teaching, well, since doctrine is not as important, let's talk
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  about church growth and how to build a bigger church and attract a crowd. And that's not Christianity
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  at all. We've got to take a break already. But when we come back, we're going to talk about Pam's book,
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  Bridge of Love. And there's a little description here. It says it encompasses multiple stories
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  of conversations, of the homeless, patients and hospitals and nursing homes, meeting friends
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  at parties, experiences on the mission field, and a lot more. We'll be right back with Pam
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  The book is called Bridge of Love 30 True Stories of Faith in Action. There's the cover
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  right there. Beautiful cover. And Pam, two questions. One, is that a specific bridge? Does it
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  have any significance there on the front cover? And then what inspired you to write this at this time?
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  Yeah, so the bridge is actually Hellgate Bridge in New York City. And how that came out, yeah,
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  a Hellgate bridge, that's a different name. But how it came about was I think of Christ as the
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  bridge. Because, you know, you've seen it sometimes when people share the gospel, they'll talk
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  about how he is the bridge between people, which are, you know, the simple people here that we are.
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  And the father is Jesus. And when we put our faith in Christ alone as our Savior, that we are
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  saved from, you know, hell and that we get to go to heaven for eternity. And he's with us through
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  our life, through the Holy Spirit that individuals within us. So I just really love bridges. My whole
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  life, I love bridges. And then when I became a believer, I just really thought, you know, Jesus
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  is the bridge, isn't that cool? Well, my, the woman, Cara, started her that did my cover design.
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  She kept asking me, what kind of bridge do you want on the cover? Because I wanted a bridge.
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  And I said, Cara, I don't know. And I must have looked through like probably thousands of
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  Google images and nothing was really hitting me. So I just gave it up. I said, all right, God, if you
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  want me to have a bridge on this cover, you tell me what bridge it is because I have no clue.
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  And yeah. And then the one night, my mom's 95 and the aide was watching her and being
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  carover and the other TV program. And I walked into the living room and I said, wow, let's just
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  put the news out about the show. And all of a sudden, this 10-second blur came on
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  of a background of a bridge. And this man was talking from New York City on his story.
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  Wasn't even talking about the bridge. But something in me just said, that is the bridge.
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  And I tried to look it up. I thought, how am I going to find a bridge in New York City?
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  I look it up and there it was the particular bridge, Hellgate Bridge. And I thought this kind of
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  creepy, Hellgate Bridge. But now that I saw like the whole point of Hellgate Bridge is to save
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  people from the treacherous waters below. And it protects just like the Lord,
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  and he saves us from our sins through Jesus. And I thought that it was so cool how
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  the Lord aligned that. Yeah. That is cool. And of course, we know that Jesus is our bridge
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  to get to God. That's our only access. There is only one God and one mediator between God and man
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  Christ Jesus. So Pam, describe a story or two. I mean, we're already down to about 10 minutes.
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  But describe a story or two. I know you're not supposed to have a favorite if you're an author.
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  What's your favorite chapter or what's your favorite story, right? But I'm sure you have a
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  couple of them that maybe are near and dear to your heart. Yeah. On half of the book is on faith
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  and half of it is on evangelism. So there are faith stories in there. For instance, the Crohn's
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  disease being healed my back. I had a horrible back disorder at one point. And this is again in my
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  younger Christian days when I really put a lot of stock into the medical field. And there's
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  nothing wrong with that. But sometimes like the Bible says, Seaky first the kingdom of God in
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  his righteousness. Amen. So was I really seeking God for my healing or was I just a hundred percent
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  thinking it's medical. So when I realized that that I was I was putting too much on the medical
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  of my God's healing power, I was healed of my back disorder. Now I've had back disorder since,
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  but you know, and I and God has used physical therapy and chiropractic and all those types of
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  things. But sometimes he uses just plain gibberish in a miracle. And I think those are really
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  awesome times when you look back and you say God can do it again if he chooses to and hopefully
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  he does. And so that's one thing. I think one of the biggest things, for instance, this is October
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  coming up soon. But when I was a younger, I had just become a Christian and I was driving
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  on the road in Amherst, New York. And they were talking because my birthday is Halloween.
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  And they were talking about how there's a Christian channel, WDCX and Buffalo and the pastor
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  on was talking about how, you know, we're not really we're not supposed to do things with the occult
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  or astrology or tarot cards or any of that because it's not of God. If we want to know our future,
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  we just stand a word and we just, you know, basically we plan, but we also ask him to direct
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  our path. And I thought to myself, Hey, I didn't know this. I mean, when I was younger, I used to write
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  in a scholarly column. I went to Lily Dale, which is a town in New York, which is known for psychic.
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  And I thought to myself, I had all these things I used to dress up in, you know, like a devil
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  costume or a Ouija board, all these things. So when I heard this, I felt very convicted on the
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  radio that night, this is not right. And I had not been doing it for a little bit, but I immediately
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  went home. I went down to the basement of the apartment that I lived in and I threw it all out
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  at the curb. I just threw it all in the garbage. And, you know, the Lord says, he, I know it says,
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  when you obey him, you love him, I really believe that God will bless obedience. And you may not
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  see it right away. You may not see it till happen, but he does bless obedience because he knows that,
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  you know, we know he wants the best for us. And that night was night. I was tired. And I flipped
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  on the TV and who's on TV, but Kirk Cameron. And he was talking about, yeah, and you know, he's an
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  evangelist now. He's been growing pains for years. And so him and Ray comfort around and they're
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  sharing the gasful. And I literally, I felt and I do want to say the word felt like this is what
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  God wants me to do. He wants to be sure the gasful. I thought, this era, you know, it's not just
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  between me and other people or me and God, but me and other people. And they asked me along,
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  along with other verses and Bible verses I'd read about sharing the gasful. That's what started me.
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  And that was years ago. And I think back at that and with October coming up, I think it's really
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  important that when people think these things are funny, it's really not funny. You know, you don't
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  want to be in a kingdom of darkness. You want to be in the kingdom of light, not the kingdom of
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  darkness. Amen. Amen. By the way, whether you call it not you, but people call it a gift of
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  evangelism. We are all called to be ambassadors for Christ. And we are messengers of reconciliation.
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  We are the ones that are going to tell people the good news. Otherwise, how are they going to hear
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  it by random chance? Maybe they'll walk into a church? No. Even some Christians are even leaving
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  churches. So they're not going to go to church. We've got to share the truth about Jesus Christ
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  but anyway, off my soapbox, you mentioned WDCX. We have both done interviews on that station
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  with the wonderful woman of God, Linda Penn. And I brought up my phone because we had exchanged
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  some messages back on March 22 of this year. And you just simply sent me a message and said,
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  Linda Penn is now in heaven. I responded and said, oh my goodness, mixed emotions. First,
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  good for her. God bless and comfort her family and loved ones. And I just recently had an interview
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  with her too. So let's, I know this is not about your book this moment, but Linda Penn, what a
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  wonderful Godly woman who had a ministry. She was on WDCX in Buffalo, New York. Pam, share your
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  thoughts on that. So Linda, I've known for years and we went on multiple mission trips together
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  to Costa Rica. Yeah, she, she was a powerhouse for Christianity. I mean, if you said, you know,
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  I mean, in Buffalo, she used to do death by chocolate, which was, you know, probably 3,000 women
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  would gather. Usually I think it was September, October. And they would have a guest speaker. And
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  she, you know, ran tons of Bible studies and again, mission trips. And she just very outspoken.
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  And then after she left the women's ministry at the chapel, where I go to church, again,
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  starting more Bible studies, doing her own radio program and continuing to, you know, be involved
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  with the, especially Costa Rica, there was some ministries down there that she was very involved
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  with, but just a very strong presence of the Lord in her life. He really was very, it's, it's
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  as we mess her, you know, we really do. It was very shocking. But at the same time, yes, she is in
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  heaven. Yeah, good for her. Not anything. Yeah. Lord willing, just met our time. Every one of us.
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  And that's up to God. So Pam, before we let you go, I need, I know the books on Amazon. And it's
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  doing really well five star ratings. Where else can people get it? Or is that the main place to
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  get bridge of love? Yeah, you can get it at books a million online. You can get it at Barnes and
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  Noble online, Walmart online. If you live in the Western New York area, there's many different
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  stores in Western York that I have posted on my website that you can get it at. Yeah,
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  mostly again, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Walmart, books a million online. And then there's also an
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  ebook too. So what is your website? It's, well, I have an author website on Amazon. And then also,
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  if you go to my Facebook page, it's Pam walk, you know, just type in Buffalo, New York or Niagara
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  Falls, New York, I think I'm the only Pam walk. But there's a lot of evangelism stories and sharing
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  the gospel with, you know, a Hindu, a Jehovah witness, a Mormon, you know, people that are not
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  of Christianity, atheists and agnastics. And I think it's really important just to know that
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  anybody can share the gospel. You just have to open your mouth and, you know, share your story of
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  how you came to Christ or, you know, share the guy. Yeah, what has God done for you, Christian? You
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  know, we can share our individual experience and just say, you know what? I would be heading in
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  for a very bad destination if Jesus didn't save me. Hey, I want to mention when you search for Pamela
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  on Facebook, it's W-A-L-C-K. W-A-L-C-K is her last name. Table of content. Oh, wait a minute,
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  because we need to make sure we find out what you're planning on. Do you have another book in
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  the works? I know it might be early. You're still, you know, talking about this one, but, you know,
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  a writer likes to write, so where's that at with you? Yeah, so I met about chapter 20 on my second.
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  Oh, my goodness. I have a few chapters. Yeah, and then, of course, we'll have to go through the
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  whole publishing process of editing and so forth, but hopefully it'll be quicker than my last book,
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  which took 15 years, because all the stories are going to take place and I was working full time
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  and taking care of my mom. I just didn't have, I had too much responsibility to get the book
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  published, but now I have more time and I've been working on it and yes, I'm looking forward to
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  that book too. Well, God's still writing. I mean, he was writing a lot of your stories as you're
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  putting them into this book, Bridge of Love, you know, God was through your experiences. So,
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  I'm glad you mentioned Pam that anyone can share the gospel. You don't have to be a television
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  evangelist or someone with a degree. You just have to love Jesus and love people enough to tell
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  them the truth. We just got a couple minutes left. Just your encouraging words to those who,
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  I mean, we've got people watching and listening that are at different levels of their faith.
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  Some of them are even maybe seeking. So, Pam, just share it with our audience. The importance of,
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  you know, coming to faith in Jesus and sharing what God has done, because there's only a limited
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  amount of time left. Right. Yeah. So, when I became a Christian, like I said, I really just
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  was focused on the Lord and myself and then I started realizing there's millions of people in this
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  world. I mean, 150,000 people die every 24 hours and that's a lot of people. And the Bible says
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  is the narrow path. So, unfortunately, many people trust in themselves that they're a good person
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  and none of us are good. It says for all of sin and fall on short of the glory of God, meaning
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  none of us are perfect. We are all sinners. We are all, you know,
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  unfortunately, we all do things every day, breaking the 10 commandments. And once you become a Christian,
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  he starts peeling that away like an onion so that you don't do those things as, you know,
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  as much through his frequently and you're becoming more and more like Jesus. But in the meantime,
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  you're meeting all your friends, your family, your coworkers and they're either saved or they're
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  not saved. Stay from what? Stay from the wrath of God. And you don't want anyone to go to hell.
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  You want them to go to heaven and be with the Lord. So, to me, it's like the best news in the world,
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  the gospel, the good news is sharing the gospel. It's even more important than, you know,
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  helping a person with their shoulder or their back or just doing nice things for people. Because
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  when they know the Lord, it's eternity and that is so long and so important. And yes, you can
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  share the gospel because I always say, we want to make Jesus known and know him,
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  to know Jesus and make him known. And they have to be anywhere with your neighbor. It can be
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  with an overseas mission trip. It can be in the bank, anywhere. Just try to play the conversation
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  from the natural to the spiritual a lot of times, you know, invite somebody to church and ask
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  him what they're doing this weekend. Just, you know, to a conversation, a deeper conversation,
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  then just, are you a Christian? Because a lot of people will say they're Christians. But,
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  again, are they truly a Christian? Right. And I'm not God, but you can tell by the
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  responses, you know, if they say something like, well, you know, I don't know where I'm going. And,
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  you know, I believe that God exists. Well, the devil also believes Jesus exists. But are they
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  following him? And what you said, it reminds me of George Barna and some of the research he does.
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  I mean, I think the recent numbers are 60, some percent of Americans say they're Christian,
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  but they're not. When you get down to the biblical worldview, believing Jesus is the only way
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  going through the essentials of the faith and the biblical worldview, it's something like six
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  percent of Americans. It's really low. So a lot of people think they are, but they don't have a
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  good understanding of what it means to be a Christian. Pam walk, we are going to continue this
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  conversation, Lord willing. In the name of Jesus, we will talk again and have you back on
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  worldview matters. But God bless you, sister and your health too. We will keep in touch. And
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  thanks for your time today. Check out friends, the book Bridge of Love. God bless you, Pam.
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  Thank you. You too, David. All right. We'll talk to you soon. Guys, next week, the great Alex
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  Newman will be on. I'm not sure what day yet. We haven't worked that out. Alex Newman,
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  journalist and author and Linda Harvey of Mission America, Carl Kirby of reasons for hope.
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  He's going to be my guest. Why? Because we are doing a conference together in Green Bay,
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  Wisconsin on October 14. It's for men. It's called men of iron conference. I'll tell you more
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  information as it gets closer, but it's coming up before we know it. We're already getting close
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  to the end of September. But thanks for sharing the show, guys. God bless you. And as always,
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  keep speaking the truth about things that matter.