Latest / Gabi’s Speech and Drama Podcast / A visit from an (ex) LAMDA Examiner
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- 0:02SPEAKER_00: Hello everybody and welcome to our July meetup
- 0:06SPEAKER_00: with special guest speaker Kerry Woods Shelley and I will allow you
- 0:10SPEAKER_01: to introduce yourself to everyone Hi so I'm Kerry Woods Shelley I'm Kerry I've been
- 0:17SPEAKER_01: a teacher of Lambda since 1990 so 36 years I've been an examiner roughly 20 years
- 0:23SPEAKER_01: and I retired last year so I'm not working for Lambda anymore and I'm
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: look like this because I'm at the beach at the moment on my holly bobs so there we go.
- 0:33SPEAKER_01: I was an examiner when exams were taken on the day and results were given out on
- 0:38SPEAKER_01: the day and I've seen lots of changes with
- 0:42SPEAKER_01: the exam boards lambda included reporting styles marking criteria criteria
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: of pass distinction and fail and
- 0:53SPEAKER_01: over
- 0:53SPEAKER_01: the years some things have been great some things haven't been great some things
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: have turned out to be great but
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: when we're teachers we don't always think they're great
- 1:01SPEAKER_01: and sometimes they're absolutely awful and they got rid of them
- 1:04SPEAKER_01: so that's good sometimes always and never i think you'll possibly remember of those
- 1:09SPEAKER_01: of you that have had a lot of experience with lambda personally as
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: an examiner i tried really hard never to use those three words
- 1:17SPEAKER_01: and i didn't get reports back so there were ways around it but it was
- 1:20SPEAKER_01: a difficult time
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: so as a teacher and examiner i also worked through covid and coming out
- 1:26SPEAKER_01: of covid really i think set the online examination path going and so there's
- 1:32SPEAKER_01: a whole load of other criteria that goes alongside doing the in-person exams
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: and doing the online exams but the basic examination is the same and the process is
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: the same it's just a different format to go through
- 1:49SPEAKER_01: so bear with because i have got notes because gabi asked me to prepare some things
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: that you'd asked about so i'd like to start off really
- 1:57SPEAKER_01: with common mistakes these are not exhaustive these are just things that as
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: a teacher and as an examiner i've come across a lot so if we'd like to look at
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: the common mistakes really linked to the knowledge a lot of it is that
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: the questions are not read properly and I think as teachers we have
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: to take responsibility for the fact that we have to disseminate the questions for
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: the children and for the learners I don't have to say learners anymore for
- 2:24SPEAKER_01: the students yeah so it's really important and sometimes that doesn't happen
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: and sometimes I think that as teachers we may forget that it's
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: a ten minute five minute ten minute if we're in a medal exam section of an exam
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: So unless you're succinct and unless it comes from the student's actual body
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: of knowledge,
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: they're going to get very,
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: very stuck if during the discussion a question is asked to qualify something.
- 2:55SPEAKER_01: And we've all been there. We've all said exhalation when we meant inhalation.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: And as an examiner, we were very reticent about stopping somebody and going, did you mean this?
- 3:05SPEAKER_01: But I found over the years, if you didn't say that...
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: then they would go down the wrong path and possibly not pass that part of the exam.
- 3:14SPEAKER_01: So read the questions,
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: really read the questions,
- 3:17SPEAKER_01: break the questions down and then make the learner understand what
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: that question means because mood and feelings are two very different things and it's
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: a way of making sure that they're connected with their work.
- 3:29SPEAKER_01: I always start with the knowledge and work onto the performances from that
- 3:34SPEAKER_01: because I know them what they need to know from their knowledge.
- 3:39SPEAKER_01: if you look at the online examinations if do any of you do
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: an online I'll just be very brief with it but a lot of
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: the time they've been taught very well but unfortunately they haven't had
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: the session where they've done their exam online so their head disappears
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: or they're looking at the ceiling or you miss a nuance of the fact
- 3:58SPEAKER_01: that they're doing a speech where they're talking to their shoes
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: but you can't see their feet you can only see them from
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: the face down or something so it makes sure that camera angles and things like that
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: and the other thing in the knowledge is well it could be well i could be a boy
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: or i could be a girl or it could mean this or it could mean
- 4:17SPEAKER_01: that i can't mark it could be i need you to make a decision
- 4:21SPEAKER_01: and tell me what your decision is before i can give a mark so with
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: the little ones very often they'll be talking about curl what is curl
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: and they'll they'll show you or they'll do an action
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: and you'll say something like, could you tell me what that means?
- 4:36SPEAKER_01: Give me an example.
- 4:37SPEAKER_01: Oh, she's got curly hair.
- 4:38SPEAKER_01: So what does that curl look like?
- 4:39SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's a spiral.
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: There you go.
- 4:41SPEAKER_01: They've got a mark.
- 4:42SPEAKER_01: But that does require the examiner to give quite a lot of extra information.
- 4:47SPEAKER_01: So as a teacher,
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: just try and really drill down on the question and give the answers
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: to your students.
- 4:53SPEAKER_01: The script didn't say is something, you know.
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: Girls Like That is a script where it's Girl A or it's Nasty Girl
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: or they have titles but they don't have characters, character names.
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: They do have characters but not character names
- 5:08SPEAKER_01: and at distinction level if they turn around and say
- 5:10SPEAKER_01: well I don't know her objective because the script didn'n say
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: or she hasn't got a character, I can't tell you about it
- 5:17SPEAKER_01: It's very tricky for an examiner to try and give them the marks
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: for that so again
- 5:23SPEAKER_01: be very open with them for an examination you're not doing the whole play
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: for the purposes of the scene so as long as you say that for the
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: purposes of my scene eliza is in love with
- 5:33SPEAKER_01: the professor or eliza's in love avec le colonel
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: it's wrong perhaps but at grade four it doesn't matter if you justify it
- 5:40SPEAKER_01: with what you did and your answer covers
- 5:43SPEAKER_01: the things that you need to cover then it's full marks
- 5:46SPEAKER_01: So it's about understanding what they understand with the knowledge.
- 5:52SPEAKER_01: acting there's lots of things that happen with acting one of the main things is
- 5:56SPEAKER_01: if you take a scene from an old anthology none of those scenes are timed
- 6:01SPEAKER_01: so you may find in the news anthologies that you're using that a scene goes over
- 6:07SPEAKER_01: the five minutes or under the three minutes or whatever it is but that's
- 6:11SPEAKER_01: because it's a set piece and it's allowed to so if you're going to take
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: an anthology piece an old anthology piece perfectly reasonable to do it
- 6:19SPEAKER_01: lots of people do it but you can then cut and you must time because the number
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: of exam sessions I've had that have run over because they're doing
- 6:27SPEAKER_01: an X anthology piece and an anthology piece and it hasn't been timed and
- 6:31SPEAKER_01: the examiner stops marking after the time not on a set piece but on
- 6:37SPEAKER_01: an own choice piece so you don't lose marks per se but you know it's a mistake
- 6:43SPEAKER_01: that you don't really want your students to have to worry about