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Jason Flitter: NewZealand.AI founder on the applications and benefits of AI in business · Best of Business

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Speaker 2: Good morning, it is seven past ten. Carry what I'm
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Speaker 2: with you through until midday. And for this, Justin Flytt,
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Speaker 2: a founder of New Zealand AI, is joining us to
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Speaker 2: take all your questions regarding AI and how you can
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Speaker 2: use it in your business. I met Justin when earlier
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Speaker 2: this year IMCD the Building Service Contractors World Congress and
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Speaker 2: one of the guest speakers was Justin the founder of
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Speaker 2: New Zealand AI. Absolutely fascinating, fascinating presentation. I really really
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Speaker 2: enjoyed it. So given the headlines around the evils of AI,
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Speaker 2: which of course gets the clicks, the headlines about how
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Speaker 2: AI is going to take jobs and how it's not
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Speaker 2: accurate and how it's going to replicate people in deep
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Speaker 2: fake porn, etc. The way Justin talked about it was
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Speaker 2: extremely positive, especially in business and can be used to
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Speaker 2: transform workplaces in so many different ways. And so Justin
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Speaker 2: joins me now in a very very good morning to you.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, it's great to be here, Thank you so much.
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Speaker 3: And given the show that's on in Hamilton at the moment,
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Speaker 3: let's just clarify that this is not artificial insemination. We
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Speaker 3: are talking about artificial intelligence here.
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Speaker 2: It's true, actually very good point. But could AI as
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Speaker 2: an artificial intelligence be used in farming along with artificial insemination.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, there'll be plenty of applications for artificial intelligence, least
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Speaker 3: of all in you know the work that companies like
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Speaker 3: Halter are doing with their fenceless farms and gallaher animal management,
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Speaker 3: as well as you know, figuring out, you know, what
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Speaker 3: grass do I need to sew or you know, what
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Speaker 3: fertilizer should I be putting down, and then getting into
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Speaker 3: like precision agric culture where we've now got machinery that's
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Speaker 3: kind of like almost got lasers that's pinpointing in secticide
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Speaker 3: and things on weeds and that sort of thing. Rather
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Speaker 3: than spraying the whole farm, we're actually getting really focused on,
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Speaker 3: you know, where those those things need to be so
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Speaker 3: that we're reducing I guess the cost and the usage
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Speaker 3: of some of those chemicals in the earth.
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Speaker 2: So for people who are listening and who are like,
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Speaker 2: what what is AI is? Just is it just a
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Speaker 2: broad spectrum name for cutting edge technology? How would you
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Speaker 2: define it?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So artificial intelligence is not you. It's been around
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Speaker 3: since the nineteen fifties. Of course, Alan Shearing coined artificial
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Speaker 3: intelligence and the Turing test, which one could argue has
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Speaker 3: now been past. Artificial intelligence is the use of computer
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Speaker 3: systems to think and act like humans, so you know,
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Speaker 3: it's it is a broad term. There are lots of
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Speaker 3: different types of artificial intelligence. Generative AI, which is very
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Speaker 3: much what most people will be talking about now with
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Speaker 3: the use of chat, GPT and those types of things,
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Speaker 3: and meta AI is what we call generative AI, and
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Speaker 3: that's really only been around in the public sphere since
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Speaker 3: October November twenty two.
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Speaker 2: What blew my tiny mind during your presentation was seeing
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Speaker 2: you introduce yourself in about six or seven different languages.
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Speaker 2: The languages are the people who were attending the conference.
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Speaker 2: And it wasn't dubbed. It wasn't your voice dubbed over.
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Speaker 2: It was you speaking that language but using AI. It
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Speaker 2: wasn't you speaking the language AI doing it.
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Speaker 3: Yes, So I created a digital clone.
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Speaker 2: Of myself, very handsome one.
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Speaker 3: I think, no enhancement. So if you've seen the Skinny
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Speaker 3: Mobile ad, they use the same technology, right. It's a
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Speaker 3: platform called Hagen and we go into a studio, or
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Speaker 3: you record some video of yourself on your phone, you
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Speaker 3: upload that into a platform and it creates a digital
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Speaker 3: clone of you, including all the crazy hand gestures and
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Speaker 3: everything like that, and it will clone your voice. And
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Speaker 3: the voice cloning part is probably the hardest part to
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Speaker 3: get right to sound really authentic. There's a tool called
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Speaker 3: eleven Labs which we use, and you need at least
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Speaker 3: thirty minutes of you speaking, which for your eye is
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Speaker 3: probably quite easy, but for others it's quite hard to
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Speaker 3: get that. And actually if you get and get to
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Speaker 3: an hour or two hours of voice recording, then that
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Speaker 3: training data will give you a much better output, will
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Speaker 3: such sound much more like you. And then in these tools,
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Speaker 3: we can just change the script whenever we want to
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Speaker 3: create a new video, and you know, change it to
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Speaker 3: be any language that we want. And it's not dubbing over.
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Speaker 3: It is lip syncing me to speak in Mandarin or
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Speaker 3: Spanish or French or whatever language.
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Speaker 2: Your mouth was forming the shape needed to produce the sounds. See,
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Speaker 2: I can see immediately, as you pointed out at the conference,
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Speaker 2: how that would be really useful for people who wanted
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Speaker 2: to give instructions to staff.
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Speaker 3: You know, for housing safety training, for customer onboarding, even
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Speaker 3: for product videos, even for CEOs that have got to
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Speaker 3: do market updates. Every time you want to create a
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Speaker 3: new video, you have to stand in front of a
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Speaker 3: camera with a teleprompter. You've got all of the production
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Speaker 3: work that goes into it, and it costs a lot
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Speaker 3: of money. Now, if you can record someone for five
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Speaker 3: min it's in a studio once a year, and then
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Speaker 3: use that to create a thousand videos, then all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, your cost goes from you know, six figures
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Speaker 3: down to one hundred bucks a month.
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Speaker 2: Which is extraordinary. And you're doing it in the language
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Speaker 2: of the people that you're talking to.
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Speaker 3: Yes, And you know, while the counter for that is
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Speaker 3: the creative production teams that would have otherwise been hired
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Speaker 3: or needed to produce that content. It's not to say
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Speaker 3: that we don't need those, you know, the the cameraps
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Speaker 3: and that video production capability. It's just for that you know,
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Speaker 3: high frequency content that doesn't have to be super well produced.
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Speaker 3: Then we can now use AI tools to automate that
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Speaker 3: that content production.
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Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's a question that Jason has. We've
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Speaker 2: got to call us straight out of the block for you, Jason,
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Speaker 2: Very good morning to you.
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Speaker 4: Oh, good morning guys.
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Speaker 3: How are you good?
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Speaker 2: Thank you?
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Speaker 4: Okay, So my question is, so from what from what
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Speaker 4: what I can see this, this is going to completely
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Speaker 4: remove all lawyers, accountants, the lovely lady that answer the phone.
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Speaker 4: She's definitely for the high jump. I can do that.
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Speaker 4: I don't even know why we'll need school teachers anymore.
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Speaker 4: They'll be for the high jump or me. So what
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Speaker 4: what this is? Yeah, maybe you two carry So what
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Speaker 4: this is going to do is this is just going
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Speaker 4: to transfer wealth from the from the everyday individual to
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Speaker 4: corporations like Google and Amazon and our mates. Who's your
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Speaker 4: interview in there? And so basically, you know, everyone hates
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Speaker 4: Russia and but you're just going to basically turn the
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Speaker 4: world into Russia by having a whole lot of oligarcs
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Speaker 4: that do everything and everyone else is broken, unemployed. I
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Speaker 4: don't know why we do. I don't know why we
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Speaker 4: don't burn all these things down right now, that was here.
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Speaker 3: It's a good question, right, and it's a it's a
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Speaker 3: valid question, right, and it's something that we we do
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Speaker 3: need to be conscious of and aware of the fact
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Speaker 3: is at that we are never not going to need lawyers.
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Speaker 3: We are never not going to need teachers, We are
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Speaker 3: never not going to need accountants. It's just that some
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Speaker 3: of the things that they do, they won't have to
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Speaker 3: do anymore, the repetitive, time consuming stuff that we all
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Speaker 3: hate having to spend money on. With their rates, they
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Speaker 3: will be able to be augmented with AI. And so
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Speaker 3: when we do need a lawyer, it'll be because we
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Speaker 3: actually need their advice and their decades of expertise or
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Speaker 3: years of expertise that AI doesn't know about, that they
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Speaker 3: can contextualize and understand because the law is gray. The
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Speaker 3: law is not black and white. And so when we
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Speaker 3: are deciding we're helping to negotiate something or make a
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Speaker 3: judgment on something that is nuanced, and that is something
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Speaker 3: that we are as humans, we will look to and
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Speaker 3: value and trust that human component. Now, sure ALI is
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Speaker 3: going to get really good at this over time, but
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Speaker 3: for we at the moment, it is not that we're
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Speaker 3: not going to need those people. We do need those
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Speaker 3: expertise in our society, and we certainly do not want
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Speaker 3: to be outsourcing the determination of our legal system to
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Speaker 3: some AI algorithm. Does that assay?
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's not actually accurate at all, because you're right,
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Speaker 4: a law firm will need three lawyers instead of thirty.
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Speaker 4: So basically it's still the same thing. Twenty seven of
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Speaker 4: them are still for the high jumping because three loyals
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Speaker 4: of us oversee all of the AI for everyone else.
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Speaker 4: And then I have a couple of geniors, all right,
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Speaker 4: so an accountants, I mean, they're just completely one hundred
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Speaker 4: percent for the high jump because numbers are not wrong.
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Speaker 4: There's no gray area in numbers. So they're all gone
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Speaker 4: everyone like the lady that answers the phone. They're all gone,
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Speaker 4: school teachers. It's only a matter of time they'll be
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Speaker 4: all gone. That's a bit disingenuous what you just said.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's not at the moment, that's not you know,
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Speaker 3: but that's.
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Speaker 4: What you're building, that's what you're aiming for. So what
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Speaker 4: you're saying is that the AI that your building is
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Speaker 4: never going to be any good, because that's not what
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Speaker 4: you're saying. What you're saying is the AI that your
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Speaker 4: building is going to be unbelievable and it is going
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Speaker 4: to get better and better and better, and it will
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Speaker 4: replace lawyers. All the lawyers will go. It's only a
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Speaker 4: matter of time, it might not happen until So that's
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Speaker 4: where I build it.
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Speaker 3: That's where I disagree with you, as I will agree
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Speaker 3: with you that some companies will not need as many lawyers.
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Speaker 3: I don't agree with you that we will never need lawyers.
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Speaker 3: I think that that is something that that that we
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Speaker 3: will always need. There were always going to be new
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Speaker 3: problems to solve, new decisions, and new issues that we
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Speaker 3: will need human lawyers to assess and evaluate based on
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Speaker 3: their breadth of capability.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jason. I get where you're coming from, but
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Speaker 2: I also understand where you're coming from too, because when
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Speaker 2: it comes to AI, I was talking to Wendy Pie,
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Speaker 2: who's like cutting edge into.
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Speaker 3: She's amazing, isn't she. She's a phenomenal woman.
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Speaker 2: I know, and she is working on a program that
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Speaker 2: is going to be able to teach children who struggle
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Speaker 2: with reading through AI, freeing up the teachers to teach,
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Speaker 2: which is exactly what you were talking about.
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Speaker 5: Men.
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Speaker 3: We don't have enough teachers as it is. Yeah, so
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Speaker 3: you know, if we can free up the teachers with
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Speaker 3: you know, five or ten percent of their time with
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Speaker 3: some AI, so they can actually spend more time with
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Speaker 3: the students that need it firing up, just actually reduce
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Speaker 3: the stress level in their role so that they get
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Speaker 3: a little bit more enjoyment out of going into class
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Speaker 3: every day. Like, isn't that a good thing?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I just saw overnight that the teachers have been
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Speaker 2: approved have been approved to allow to to be allowed
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Speaker 2: to use AI for marketing because they can easily a
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Speaker 2: I can work out if it's right or wrong.
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Speaker 3: Fantastic news talk said.
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Speaker 2: By John A very good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Hi, good morning. How are you gos this morning?
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Speaker 2: Good? Thanks, good morning, great.
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Speaker 6: Hey, listen, I've just got a just a quick comment
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Speaker 6: I guess on the use of AI, and I think
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Speaker 6: there can be a lot of positive and I guess
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Speaker 6: a lot of negative. And I guess I've got one
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Speaker 6: positive story. I've got a son who lives in Western Australia.
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Speaker 6: Now he is a general manager of Crete, a major
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Speaker 6: brand both here and in New Zealand. Sorry over there
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Speaker 6: end in New Zealand. And look, he's creating a bot
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Speaker 6: through AI that will basically answer a lot of his
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Speaker 6: emails because he is creating the spot where he puts
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Speaker 6: so much data into it so when an email will
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Speaker 6: come in, it'll have the capacity to answer for him
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Speaker 6: and will not send it. He has to proof for
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Speaker 6: read it. But he was telling me the other day
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Speaker 6: that'll say him thirty hours a week in front of
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Speaker 6: the computer.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing, love it.
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Speaker 6: Isn't it great? I mean so for a guy, a
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Speaker 6: young guy, I mean he's miss thirties, you know, he's
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Speaker 6: got a young family, and he's a general manager obviously,
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Speaker 6: you know, so it's pretty busy. So you can imagine
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Speaker 6: that gives him so much time for other things I guess,
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Speaker 6: you know, more family.
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Speaker 3: Think about what will he be able to do with
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Speaker 3: all that increased capacity to strip get through his backlog,
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Speaker 3: to start growing that business, to spend more time on
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Speaker 3: you know, with his with his staff, with his customers.
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Speaker 3: You know, this is exactly what we're hearing and seeing
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Speaker 3: across businesses you know, around New Zealand. And it is
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Speaker 3: a fantastic example.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it. Say, it's a lot of work involved,
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Speaker 6: you know, putting the spot together because he's got to
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Speaker 6: and put so much data so it can answer as him.
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Speaker 6: It's like a virtual person that well.
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Speaker 3: We keep saying, you know, chat GPT is the world's
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Speaker 3: greatest consultant that knows nothing about you right. So the
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Speaker 3: more information that you can share with these tools within
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Speaker 3: a secure environment that coaches them and teaches them how
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Speaker 3: to respond in your voice as can only help to
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Speaker 3: increase your capacity to be able to drive growth.
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Speaker 2: News Talks said, be just in the founder of New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: AI is here taking your course. If you have any
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Speaker 2: on AI and its possibilities, read Jason's course is a
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Speaker 2: text of the same argument arose at the end of
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Speaker 2: nineteenth century when cars appeared, much talk of all the
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Speaker 2: folks involved with horses soon becoming redundant, end of civil society, etc.
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Speaker 2: We just have no ideas, no idea of the opportunities
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Speaker 2: AI will create. Although you know when you think back
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Speaker 2: to when you had the production line became more mechanized,
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Speaker 2: and you had the biscuit packers who were part of
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Speaker 2: a team, part of a factory, part of a workforce,
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Speaker 2: and then their job was taken away and they biscuit
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Speaker 2: packing was about the limit of their intelligence, and then
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Speaker 2: they no longer had a job to go to, no
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Speaker 2: longer had a community they felt involved with. And we've
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Speaker 2: seen multi there wasn't unemployment, but with the arrival of machines,
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Speaker 2: there watts and these people couldn't do anything else. Will
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Speaker 2: the same be true of.
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Speaker 3: The But are they still unemployed?
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Speaker 2: Pretty third generation, fourth generation unemployed.
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Speaker 3: So while yes, there might be people that in some
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Speaker 3: roles in some businesses, they might not need so many
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Speaker 3: of that. There's AI is also going to create and
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Speaker 3: we are already seeing it. Lots of new roles and
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Speaker 3: new opportunities, and no doubt, as with the rise of
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Speaker 3: any new technology that we have seen over the last
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Speaker 3: hundred years, there will be new jobs and new industries
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Speaker 3: that will be created. I'm optimistic, I'm positive. I fundamentally
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Speaker 3: believe that humans want to contribute to society and that
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Speaker 3: they will find something else to do. There will be
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Speaker 3: other opportunities with it for them that they will be
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Speaker 3: able to move to. But it is important, like we
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Speaker 3: have to be having these conversations. This is changing ridiculously fast,
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Speaker 3: faster than any other technological innovation that we have ever
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Speaker 3: experienced in humanity, and if you want to be in
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Speaker 3: a position to adapt to this change, then you need
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Speaker 3: to lean into AI. You need to be learning how
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Speaker 3: AI works. You need to be learning how to combine
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Speaker 3: your physical skill or your domain knowledge with artificial intelligence
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Speaker 3: so that you know in five years time, you're not
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Speaker 3: irrelevant to an employer or irrelevant to your your your
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Speaker 3: peers because you just don't have those skills. You're actually
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Speaker 3: just you're not even going to be competitive in the economy.
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Speaker 3: If another company has been working on this for five years,
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Speaker 3: or you know, someone else that's going for a job
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Speaker 3: for you, has has built up, you know, five years
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Speaker 3: worth of AI skills, they're going to be miles ahead
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Speaker 3: of you. You just not even going to be considered.
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Speaker 2: I was I used a makeup artist whales down for
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Speaker 2: another MC and gig in Wellington and she said, how
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Speaker 2: did you find me? And I said, I googled and
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Speaker 2: you came up. And she said, huh, she had just
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Speaker 2: had a baby, and she said, I asked, I asked
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Speaker 2: chatchbt how do I build a great platform? And I
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Speaker 2: followed the instructions and she said, I've had so much
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Speaker 2: work and she said it was so she didn't have
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Speaker 2: to pay anyone. She just followed the instructions of what
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Speaker 2: chat Chee told her to build a successful platform.
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Speaker 3: And here's an example of how to use AI as
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Speaker 3: a collaborator.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, we're always looking for advice to validate
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Speaker 3: our thinking to consider how to problem solve in a
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Speaker 3: different way. And so you know, asking chet, GPT or
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Speaker 3: any of these AI tools, Hey, here's the here's the
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Speaker 3: situation on can you give me some advice? How might
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Speaker 3: how might I do it? And then you you augment
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Speaker 3: that with you know, your own values, your own knowledge,
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Speaker 3: the knowledge you might get from a business mentor you know,
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Speaker 3: from from an advisor to build a plan. Right, It's
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Speaker 3: not like we're just taking it for taking everything that
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Speaker 3: an AI tool says. It's it's just a part of
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Speaker 3: our knowledge gathering, you know. And you know, Google search
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Speaker 3: volume is slowly coming down because more and more people
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Speaker 3: are going to chet, CHIP or Perplexity or any of
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Speaker 3: these tools now to ask it the questions that they
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Speaker 3: would normally have gone to Google, except Google just gave
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Speaker 3: them one point five trillion pages to sift through, whereas
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Speaker 3: chat GPT will actually give them a coherent answer, a
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Speaker 3: blended search result.
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Speaker 2: A distillation of the knowledge that's out there. Hi, guys,
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Speaker 2: this AI discussion is interesting. You'll always need a tradee
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Speaker 2: for many reasons. A plumber when the toilet blocks, a
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Speaker 2: mechanic to fix your brakes, and engineer to install the
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Speaker 2: machines and an electrician to wire them.
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Speaker 3: It's absolutely but that plumber also has hours every day
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Speaker 3: to do the invoicing and the paperwork and the accounting
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Speaker 3: and the customer service and support. Now, if you've got
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Speaker 3: AI tools that can handle some of that, then the
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Speaker 3: plumber and the brick layer will have more time, more
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Speaker 3: billable hours to build a more profitable business.
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Speaker 2: Perfect Murray, you've got a question.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, which of course means the plumber of course doesn't
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Speaker 8: leave the account and the lawyer and the other things.
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Speaker 8: Now an AI anagram that they can be done with
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Speaker 8: an app on their phone.
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Speaker 3: Well, arguably you don't, now if you can use Henry
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Speaker 3: if you're a sole trader. But you know, most businesses
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Speaker 3: will still need an accountant to sign off on charted
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Speaker 3: accounts and do other things. It's actually just the day
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Speaker 3: to day automated tasks which the accountant probably doesn't do.
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Speaker 3: It's actually on the business owner to do many of
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Speaker 3: those things, which you know suck up productive time.
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Speaker 8: I've been playing with chech GPT just like it. I've
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Speaker 8: just discovered it in the last couple of months, and
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Speaker 8: in the process of buying a new car, I've been
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Speaker 8: using chet GPT to compare different insurances for the motor
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Speaker 8: vehicle breakdown stuff. What I found interesting was this it
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Speaker 8: didn't just answer the questions that I put to it.
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Speaker 8: It intuitively knew the next part of the questions that
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Speaker 8: weren't a chat GP. So, for example, I gave tell
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Speaker 8: me about this motor vehicle insurance company. Not only did
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Speaker 8: it say yes, they've got a good reputation. As I've
21:21
Speaker 8: been in court three or four times, these were the
21:24
Speaker 8: reasons that people complained about them. So it gave me
21:26
Speaker 8: an expansive answer. And then then it went on to
21:31
Speaker 8: you need to make sure that if you're getting it
21:34
Speaker 8: through a dealer that you're not getting charged xtra. You
21:36
Speaker 8: can go through brokers or go through them directly. These
21:40
Speaker 8: were part of the questions that weren't formulated, but they
21:43
Speaker 8: were definitely part of the overall it was. It was
21:46
Speaker 8: an interesting exchange, and I really questions, this is just
21:51
Speaker 8: the beginning of this ten fifteen years down the track.
21:57
Speaker 8: Then you're not you know, teachers, lawyers and stuff. Certainly,
22:03
Speaker 8: phone operators, taxi drivers, truck drivers, those sort of things.
22:09
Speaker 8: While they're not going to replace everything, it's going to
22:12
Speaker 8: take a big chunk of a lot of that stuff away,
22:16
Speaker 8: and back when we were shoveling holes with shovels and stuff,
22:22
Speaker 8: the first mechanical digger is put one hundreds and thousands
22:26
Speaker 8: of people out of work because the Industrial revolution changed
22:30
Speaker 8: the way it worked. We're now in the AI revolution
22:37
Speaker 8: and it's going to be a huge change. It's such
22:40
Speaker 8: a speed. How are we going to keep up economically?
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Speaker 3: Look, you raised some big questions. These are conversations that
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Speaker 3: we need to be having as a society, that our
22:53
Speaker 3: politicians need to be having with their communities. You know,
23:00
Speaker 3: when we look at the pace of change from AI.
23:04
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, when chatchebt launched, it could do
23:07
Speaker 3: task that took human you know, a minute or two.
23:12
Speaker 3: Today it can do tasks that takes me would take
23:15
Speaker 3: me a day or two to complete that piece of work.
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Speaker 3: If we extrapolate that, you know, the pace of change
23:23
Speaker 3: with AI is doubling every seven months, and that by
23:27
Speaker 3: twenty thirty, AI is going to be able to do
23:29
Speaker 3: tasks that take humans a month to do. That is
23:32
Speaker 3: going to change the shape of our businesses. It is
23:35
Speaker 3: going to change the shape of our economies, and we
23:38
Speaker 3: need to be having these conversations now around how we're
23:41
Speaker 3: building sustainable business, sustainable careers and what our economy is
23:46
Speaker 3: going to look like and how we're going to support that.
23:48
Speaker 3: And we're just not having these conversations enough, with enough
23:54
Speaker 3: seriousness and enough honesty throughout New Zealand. And this is
23:59
Speaker 3: why being on the show today with Kerry and talking
24:03
Speaker 3: at all the conferences and the AI Academy that we run,
24:06
Speaker 3: all of these things in the work that they forum do,
24:10
Speaker 3: all of these parts of the New Zealand tech sect
24:13
Speaker 3: to driving it are incredibly important to raising awareness around this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you don't have the answers as to what's
24:20
Speaker 2: going to happen to society. You just know how AI work.
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Speaker 3: I'm just at the point to the end of the
24:24
Speaker 3: sphere where I'm seeing this stuff all day every day.
24:27
Speaker 3: I'm studying the research I'm hearing from business owners around
24:31
Speaker 3: the country, the good, the bad, the positive, the opportunity,
24:35
Speaker 3: and you know, I can see what we can see
24:39
Speaker 3: what's coming down the pipeline. We can see how this
24:42
Speaker 3: change is impacting business. We know that businesses in New
24:45
Speaker 3: Zealand are already letting people go because AI is doing
24:50
Speaker 3: the work right. We are on the precipice of an
24:56
Speaker 3: incredible period of change, and people are not going to
25:02
Speaker 3: be able to adapt if they're not skilled to adapt.
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Speaker 2: Yep, baring your head in the sand is not going
25:09
Speaker 2: to make it go away.
25:11
Speaker 3: Bearing your head in the sand is not going to
25:12
Speaker 3: be helpful for anybody.
25:14
Speaker 2: And like my makeup artist Atext writes to, AI is fantastic.
25:18
Speaker 2: I built my computer website using AI. I have no
25:21
Speaker 2: knowledge of website building or coding, just gave it instructions
25:24
Speaker 2: that coded everything for me. Then I deployed my site.
25:27
Speaker 2: Saved me thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours, which
25:30
Speaker 2: is true. And I was talking to the researchers at
25:33
Speaker 2: the Center for Brain Research Trust who are trying to
25:35
Speaker 2: find the cure for dementia and Alzheimer's and all that
25:37
Speaker 2: sort of thing, and they said, AI now can crunch
25:40
Speaker 2: the kind of boring papers and numbers that they need
25:43
Speaker 2: to crunch that used to take hundreds of hours. That
25:46
Speaker 2: leaves them the ability to get on and use their
25:49
Speaker 2: brains to find cures.
25:50
Speaker 3: AI is helping people be better business owners, be better scientists,
25:54
Speaker 3: be better teachers, be better astronauts if they know how
25:58
Speaker 3: to use it. If they know how to use it right,
26:01
Speaker 3: So you know you'll get left behind if you don't,
26:05
Speaker 3: because you've just become irrelevant. As I said earlier, So
26:09
Speaker 3: you know, what do you what do you do? Where
26:11
Speaker 3: do we Where do we start? You know, as as
26:15
Speaker 3: business owners, you know, go and get a business mentor
26:18
Speaker 3: from business mentors and Z we're building an AI project
26:21
Speaker 3: with them to help that relationship thrive. Jump on learn
26:28
Speaker 3: dot New Zealand dot AI, which is our AI academy.
26:31
Speaker 3: Everyone can join for free. We want rerund webinars and
26:35
Speaker 3: workshops and training programs you know every week through there
26:39
Speaker 3: to do skills training at scale. We go into companies
26:43
Speaker 3: and we help senior leadership teams tackle the big problems,
26:47
Speaker 3: think about governance and privacy and strategy and use cases
26:51
Speaker 3: and operations and start utilizing it. If you can ask
26:56
Speaker 3: a question you can use AI.
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Speaker 2: Nathan, Does that answer your question about how you learn
27:03
Speaker 2: an up skill in AI?
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Speaker 9: Certainly go some way towards this. I suspect it's one
27:10
Speaker 9: of those cases where what you learn and there's an
27:14
Speaker 9: element of having to tease itself by applying generic content
27:18
Speaker 9: for your situation.
27:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you do you want to learn about
27:23
Speaker 2: certification or.
27:26
Speaker 9: Well I was a bit a curious, so just yes.
27:28
Speaker 9: So just to give a bit of context, so everybody understands,
27:33
Speaker 9: I'm a business analyst by trade, so a lot of
27:35
Speaker 9: my job is about implementing new systems and helping people
27:39
Speaker 9: help helping businesses do their business better using technology. And
27:44
Speaker 9: so part of my job is or traders to actually
27:48
Speaker 9: learn these fools and have to come up to speed
27:50
Speaker 9: with how they're being applied. And I wanted to sort
27:54
Speaker 9: of like just share my experiences that.
27:56
Speaker 5: Over the last six months I've been progressively up killing
28:00
Speaker 5: myself by doing a short course online and the basis
28:05
Speaker 5: of technology of gt GPT, et cetera, and understanding.
28:10
Speaker 9: What it can do, and then using that as a basis.
28:13
Speaker 5: To go away and supply the skills in my daily life.
28:16
Speaker 2: And is that the sort of thing you're talking about?
28:18
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's people. It's people like you who ambassadors for AI.
28:25
Speaker 3: You're the champions of AI, people that are influencing the
28:28
Speaker 3: practical and responsible use of artificial intelligence in businesses, organizations
28:33
Speaker 3: and community groups around New Zealand. We have an AI
28:37
Speaker 3: Ambassador workshop and course that we have through our AI Academy.
28:43
Speaker 3: But you know, you're a standout example of someone who's
28:47
Speaker 3: taking the ball by the horns, looking for a free
28:50
Speaker 3: practical course to start learning and start being curious around
28:55
Speaker 3: how it's going to impact your world in the world
28:57
Speaker 3: of those around you. So well done, bear.
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Speaker 7: If you have a question, oh yeah, well actually it's
29:03
Speaker 7: more just one, just a couple of things to say. One,
29:06
Speaker 7: I just believe as humans we creative and if that
29:11
Speaker 7: door shuts, another one will open. I've been using AI
29:15
Speaker 7: for a while and learning bigger part of learning about it,
29:18
Speaker 7: but I've been working with young people for thirty years,
29:22
Speaker 7: use at risk and using while people are It's been
29:29
Speaker 7: hard geting people to discuss the positive outcomes of it.
29:33
Speaker 7: But while everybody's having these discussions on working in high schools,
29:38
Speaker 7: and these kids have already the train's already left the station,
29:42
Speaker 7: you know, as into using using AI and so it's
29:46
Speaker 7: been just the most amazing tool. And as I said,
29:50
Speaker 7: this thing is here to serve you, it's not the master.
29:53
Speaker 7: And helping them write their stories if they're having trouble
29:57
Speaker 7: with spelling or even parts of the education is to
30:02
Speaker 7: you know, uh, put the information in. But even when
30:05
Speaker 7: it comes down and it's formatted like, incredibly, the confidence
30:09
Speaker 7: these kids are getting now to write things is phenomenal.
30:12
Speaker 7: All of a sudden, they don't feel so dumb about
30:16
Speaker 7: what they're doing. It actually comes out. But what I'm
30:19
Speaker 7: doing with them is saying like, yeah, that's really cool,
30:22
Speaker 7: but I want you to humanize it now, and they
30:26
Speaker 7: actually have to rewrite it. So they're writing and they're
30:30
Speaker 7: putting their own stance of what's been uh, you know,
30:34
Speaker 7: put out with check GPI. But this that. There's a
30:37
Speaker 7: dozen also, which I honestly can't remember them all. I've
30:40
Speaker 7: even got one young man who used photoshop to do
30:45
Speaker 7: a character and then he put it in the AI
30:48
Speaker 7: and it's he put all the writings. He actually wrote
30:52
Speaker 7: the thing. He said just bullet points. Just tried to
30:55
Speaker 7: sit with him because he's very creative, and he got
30:58
Speaker 7: himself a comic with characters with but he did it.
31:04
Speaker 7: I did it, but he did it. He had to
31:09
Speaker 7: put it and put it in. So I'm just saying
31:12
Speaker 7: that people, these conversations that you say we need to have,
31:18
Speaker 7: we should have had them a year ago that this
31:22
Speaker 7: has been going on. So I just interested listening to
31:25
Speaker 7: you that fear sometimes overtakes people. But I think it's
31:31
Speaker 7: something that we we have to embrace. And I'm in
31:33
Speaker 7: my seventies by the way.
31:35
Speaker 2: So I'm glad you said that because I was going
31:36
Speaker 2: to ask you good on you in your seventies and
31:39
Speaker 2: a news talk said, be that's it. Doesn't an hour
31:42
Speaker 2: go quickly fast? Isn't it? Can AI make time extent? No?
31:47
Speaker 2: It can't. Justin just if you could repeat those websites
31:51
Speaker 2: again where people can get and I should stress this
31:53
Speaker 2: free information.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So come and visit us at New Zealand dot
31:58
Speaker 3: AI and you'll find links there to the AI Academy
32:02
Speaker 3: and all of the events and things like that that
32:05
Speaker 3: you can get on and be a part of and
32:07
Speaker 3: start your learning journey with us.
32:09
Speaker 2: And business mentors too.
32:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, and business mentors, you know, sign up to become
32:15
Speaker 3: a mentor. If you're a business owner, sign up to
32:19
Speaker 3: access our mentors.
32:22
Speaker 7: You know.
32:22
Speaker 3: It's a fantastic service. We've been around thirty plus years
32:26
Speaker 3: and we've got fantastic people from right around the country
32:30
Speaker 3: all there to lend their expertise to help your business grow.
32:34
Speaker 2: Absolutely love AI. It's helped so much in every aspect
32:36
Speaker 2: of life. My child is in between schools at the moment.
32:39
Speaker 2: AI has populated daily literacy, numerous in science to do
32:42
Speaker 2: daily without any kind of agenda. That's very good.
32:47
Speaker 3: Whatever you want to learn at school at university, go
32:51
Speaker 3: and learn it, learn it with AI. If you want
32:53
Speaker 3: to be a biologist, a lawyer, accountant, a builder, whatever
32:56
Speaker 3: it is, go and learn that. Be your best at it.
33:00
Speaker 3: Do it with AI running alongside you.
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Speaker 2: Perfect Garriy, this AI chat would be one of the
33:06
Speaker 2: best for ages. I'm eighty one. I see this AI
33:09
Speaker 2: talk will lead to me doing a course to assist
33:11
Speaker 2: in aspects of our consultants.
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Speaker 3: I love you.
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Speaker 2: It's Peter from Takapoona. You're fate eighty one and he's
33:17
Speaker 2: going to be learning the AI. Go you and thank
33:20
Speaker 2: you so much for your time too. I really do
33:22
Speaker 2: appreciate it. I found the preso fascinating and the information
33:26
Speaker 2: and the potentials for fascinating as well.
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