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The Bolt Report | 26 March · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Jesus, the Good reform it.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight a cracking show, Barnaby, Joyce, Rowan, Dean, Patrick Christie's
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  Speaker 2: and the panel and so much to talk about, like
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  Speaker 2: the Greens MP is now telling us Cuba shows us
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: the way. And my response to Megan Kelly's comments as
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  Speaker 2: Sky News last night playing the victim and shocking statistics
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  Speaker 2: on jihades terra plots in Australia, it's actually worse than
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  Speaker 2: even I thought. But first, this fuel crisis, it is
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  Speaker 2: so humiliating.
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  Speaker 1: You explain this to me.
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  Speaker 2: Just twenty six years ago the start of this century,
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  Speaker 2: our cars used petrol which was refined right here in Australia,
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  Speaker 2: mostly from oil also from right here in Australia day.
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  Speaker 2: It's pathetic. The eight refineries we had twenty six years
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  Speaker 2: ago and now down to just two. The eight hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand barrels a day of Australian oil we got then
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  Speaker 2: is now down to less than a third of that,
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  Speaker 2: much of it now for export. And so every day
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  Speaker 2: there we are counting the number of petrol stations that
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  Speaker 2: have run dry.
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  Speaker 1: Here's today's figures.
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  Speaker 3: New South Wales today one hundred and seventy eight with
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  Speaker 3: no diesel forty eight with no stock a total stock
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  Speaker 3: app Queensland fifty five with no diesel, thirty three with
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  Speaker 3: no regular unleaded Victoria forty five with no diesel. That's
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  Speaker 3: down twenty and seventy two with no unleaded that's down seventy.
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  Speaker 3: South Australia a nine with no diesel, ten with no unleaded,
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  Speaker 3: Western Australia forty with no diesel, fourteen with no unleaded,
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  Speaker 3: Tasmania five with no diesel, nine with some sort of outach.
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  Speaker 3: No outages in the Northern Territory that are attributable to
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  Speaker 3: a lack of fuel supply, and the act currently are
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  Speaker 3: two with no diesel and one with no unleaded.
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  Speaker 2: Did you get the impression there that hey, that's actually
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  Speaker 2: fewer stations than yesterday without fuel. You were fooled, Chris Bowen.
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  Speaker 2: The energy minises you just saw accidentally, I'm sure, actually
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  Speaker 2: skipped one crucial figure. Three hundred and fourteen service stations
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  Speaker 2: in New South Wales had run out of at least
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  Speaker 2: one kind of fuel, which brings today's total actually to
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  Speaker 2: a record six hundred and eight service stations around the
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  Speaker 2: country which ran dry, and that is about one hundred
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  Speaker 2: more than yesterday. It's a national embarrassment because here we
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  Speaker 2: are every day now waiting to be saved by some
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  Speaker 2: tanker coming in from Asia. And you know what that
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  Speaker 2: reminds me of, probably seen some years ago. You know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's school some documentary about the cargo cult, those
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  Speaker 2: people in the Pacific believing in a cult of cargo
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  Speaker 2: from foreigners. By these people in Vanuatu, at.
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  Speaker 4: Eight am, the villagers raise the United States flag in Lamakara.
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  Speaker 4: It is the daily symbol of the cargo cult. During
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  Speaker 4: the Second World War, goods were parachuted in by cargo
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  Speaker 4: planes for the inhabitants of the islands. The flag is
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  Speaker 4: a symbol that they worshiped in hopes they will continue
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  Speaker 4: to enjoy abundance.
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  Speaker 2: Oh dear, I mean hoping for the gods to send
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  Speaker 2: goods from the sky from overseas. How silly, how we laughed.
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  Speaker 2: But guys, that is now Us Australians.
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  Speaker 1: Have a cargo cult.
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  Speaker 2: We're also worshiping in hopes that will continue enjoy abundance.
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  Speaker 1: If please, please.
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  Speaker 2: We get oil fertilizer from the Middle East. Please use
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  Speaker 2: God's petrol from Asia. We're praying send fuel for our planes.
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  Speaker 2: We beseech you send our fertilizer as well, because we
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  Speaker 2: don't make that either anymore, do we? And of course,
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  Speaker 2: while the gods are at it, can they also please
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  Speaker 2: send us American soldiers in submarines to protect us?
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  Speaker 1: Because what have we got?
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  Speaker 2: How could our politicians, the whole political class, much of
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  Speaker 2: the media class have led us to this?
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  Speaker 1: How when we actually.
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  Speaker 2: Have known oil reserves under our feet the areas in
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  Speaker 2: Ochreh in this map, plus other areas needing proving up.
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  Speaker 1: But where instead looking out to sea?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, can we spot a ship with some sort of
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  Speaker 2: precious cargo for us? You know, with petrol? How about
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  Speaker 2: petrol tankers? Will Iran and let us have the oil
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  Speaker 2: we won't extract for ourselves. Is our cargo cult? And
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  Speaker 2: this country, under clever leaders should actually be an energy superpower.
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  Speaker 2: We have mountains of coal, we have a third of
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  Speaker 2: the world's uranium, We produce nearly four percent of the
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  Speaker 2: world's gas, and we have oil. So we should actually
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  Speaker 2: have the world's cheapest power prices, so much electricity that
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  Speaker 2: every AI company in the world should be desperate to
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  Speaker 2: build their data centers here. Our heavy industry should be
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  Speaker 2: booming with all that cheap power not closing, and of
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  Speaker 2: course we should add the petrol.
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  Speaker 1: Now, look, this war in Iran, it's it'll all.
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  Speaker 2: It'll soon be over, and a lot of the doom
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  Speaker 2: talk we hear now will seem stupid and alarmist, and
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  Speaker 2: the panic will vanish, But the threat remains. This is
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  Speaker 2: a dangerous world. The war in Ukraine and the war
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  Speaker 2: in Iran, those wars will be followed by another, maybe
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  Speaker 2: next time China, and then what we're going through now
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  Speaker 2: will seem like a picnic in comparison. What we're going
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  Speaker 2: through now should instead be our final warning, and one
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  Speaker 2: at this time. You know, we just can't ignore. We
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  Speaker 2: must be more self sufficient. We must stop pandering to
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  Speaker 2: all those ridiculous crusades to make us poorer, to keep
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  Speaker 2: our natural gifts in the ground, the coal, the gas,
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  Speaker 2: the oil, uranium. No more of that foolishness, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the global warming religion wail song lines, Oh you kind
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  Speaker 2: of a.
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  Speaker 1: Mind there, the sacred be let this be when we
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  Speaker 1: wake up now.
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  Speaker 2: The petrol panic is one thing, of course, and as
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  Speaker 2: we showed last night, there's also fertilizer crisis, and that
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  Speaker 2: looks every bit as bad and Australians could pay for
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  Speaker 2: months to come with the supermarket Today more warnings, this
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  Speaker 2: time from grain Grows that the price of you rea
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  Speaker 2: now imported is doubled and supplies could actually run out
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  Speaker 2: despite that, and that of course means crops could cost
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  Speaker 2: more to produce, won't be as bountiful, or because of
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  Speaker 2: the costs, won't be planted at all.
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  Speaker 1: Too expensive.
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  Speaker 2: And again, how do we become so dependent on foreign
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  Speaker 2: supplies for something so critical to one of our biggest industries.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, maybe we'll be rescued relatively soon. It's
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  Speaker 2: now clear, for instance, of the US is talking to
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  Speaker 2: Iran's new want to be leaders about some peace steel
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  Speaker 2: talking via intermediaries like I suggested a couple nights ago.
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  Speaker 2: Iran's foreign minister now says no, no, no, no, there's
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  Speaker 2: no negotiations. The media is full of oh, aur answers, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's not happening. But in fact, when you listen carefully,
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  Speaker 2: he's simply arguing about the definition of that.
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  Speaker 5: Word mohak jojus in.
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  Speaker 1: Hospitalsity you.
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  Speaker 2: So they sending messages to each other. I mean, let's
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  Speaker 2: face factor, that guy was saying, oh, let's say yes
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  Speaker 2: I'm negotiating surrender with the US. His own side would
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  Speaker 2: kill him, so it's got to be careful. But whatever
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  Speaker 2: he calls that, they are negotiating, and no wonder. In
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  Speaker 2: just three and a half weeks, the Iranian regime has
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  Speaker 2: had its military and security power smashed. Me if its
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  Speaker 2: leaders assassinated. The war is not a total failure like
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  Speaker 2: you often read. So this petrol crisis, this too, will
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  Speaker 2: in fact pass. But in the meantime, yes, this government's
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  Speaker 2: totally failed to get petrol to where it is most needed.
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  Speaker 2: So many examples of that today again.
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  Speaker 6: Godden Food, a food wholesaler who operates through my electorate
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  Speaker 6: between Sydney and Brisbane with fifty trunks, were told at
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  Speaker 6: three pm yesterday that they could not access any fuel
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  Speaker 6: from their distributor. They state that as a result, this
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  Speaker 6: will lead to an increase in food prices at the supermarket.
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  Speaker 2: In this case a TWOGB listener called Anna, a case
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  Speaker 2: raised in palamer by Allison Penfold of the Nationals.
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  Speaker 7: Anna, a single mum from Croydon Park in the Prime
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  Speaker 7: Minister's electorate, told t GB this morning and I quote,
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  Speaker 7: I was driving my kids to their sports carnival today
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  Speaker 7: panicking driving past five fuel stations with no fuel? What
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  Speaker 7: do I do if there's no fuel? What if my
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  Speaker 7: kids get sick and I can't pick them up? In quote,
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  Speaker 7: when will the Prime Minister finally take action to ensure
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  Speaker 7: fuel gets to his own constituents.
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  Speaker 8: The comments from Anna in Quota Park, of course, are
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  Speaker 8: real because people out there are facing a difficult circum stept.
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  Speaker 8: The government ignored knowledge is that we don't come in
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  Speaker 8: here and say there's not a war. We don't come
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  Speaker 8: in here and say there aren't issues of distribution. What
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  Speaker 8: we do is come in here and put forward practical
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  Speaker 8: plans to make a difference.
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  Speaker 2: No one's doubting that you're trying to do something, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not working. It's not working and One Nation MP
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  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce the form of Deputy Prime Minister ask the
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  Speaker 2: government what it was doing now to make sure what
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  Speaker 2: farmers grew made it to our shops.
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  Speaker 9: It is the Minister for Agriculture see any impediments for
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  Speaker 9: the production, processing and transport of crucial food, crucial groceries
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  Speaker 9: to metropolitan supermarkets. And if you do see any problems,
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  Speaker 9: what is your contingency plan?
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  Speaker 10: We do acknowledge that there are challenges particularly for our farmers,
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  Speaker 10: our fishes and our primary producers, which is why I'm
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  Speaker 10: meeting with them on a regular basis to hear direct
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  Speaker 10: from them about what is happening on the ground and
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  Speaker 10: so that we can address the challenges that they are experiencing.
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  Speaker 10: As I have said in this place, we are working
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  Speaker 10: with them in terms of fertilizer. We've also, as you
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  Speaker 10: would be well aware, we can produce enough food in
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  Speaker 10: this country to more than feed the Australian people, which
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  Speaker 10: is why we currently export around eighty percent of our
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  Speaker 10: primary produce in terms of value. So i'd the member
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  Speaker 10: opposite shouldn't be panicing people.
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  Speaker 2: I gave you a long listen, lots of deflection of
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  Speaker 2: our food exports.
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  Speaker 1: No one's doubting that.
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  Speaker 2: And let's talk about the process. We're talking this, we've
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  Speaker 2: got plans for that. Forget the process.
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  Speaker 1: What about the performance. It's not working.
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  Speaker 2: Bunbaby Joyce is our Thursday regular and I spoke to
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  Speaker 2: him a short while ago.
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  Speaker 1: Barbaby Joyce is great to see you.
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  Speaker 2: The petrol panic, do we need to calm down a bit?
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  Speaker 1: Well, we don't want a crisis. Nobody wants a crisis.
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  Speaker 9: But what we do want is management if there is
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  Speaker 9: an issue. Now Unfortunately, where I am, i'm being, I'm
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  Speaker 9: a reflection of the correspondence that's coming to me. And
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  Speaker 9: the correspondence that comes to me is basically independent fuel
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  Speaker 9: distributors which are a big part of regional Australia saying
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  Speaker 9: they can't get access to product, or they're getting access
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  Speaker 9: to product at a price it's just untenable, or it's
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  Speaker 9: erratic and so that and that's no good what we
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  Speaker 9: need in regional areas. If it's not just whether I
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  Speaker 9: got fuel the planned I've got to believe I've got fuels.
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  Speaker 9: I've got to have fuel the harvest later on as well.
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  Speaker 9: Otherwise I'm just wasting my money. And that's the sort
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  Speaker 9: of security you need. And I just don't think that
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  Speaker 9: this government has has really thought it through. I think
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  Speaker 9: that rationing might be people mightn't like it, but at
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  Speaker 9: least it says, well, we've got this under control. You
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  Speaker 9: don't like it, but we're slowing things right down here
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  Speaker 9: for a bit until we get our heads above water.
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  Speaker 9: What we know is that there's a delay between oil
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  Speaker 9: going from the Middle East, which is about eighty to
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  Speaker 9: ninety percent of ours that we use to the refineries,
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  Speaker 9: and then in Southeast Asia Singapore, India, which predominance is
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  Speaker 9: Russian worll to be frank South Korea to Australia. That's
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  Speaker 9: about a four or five week period. So where we're
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  Speaker 9: getting oil from now is the time the war is on,
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  Speaker 9: so it's a time to be more cautious. And I
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  Speaker 9: asked the question, I know you've played it of the
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  Speaker 9: Minister for Agriculture. I got all sorts of things coming back,
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  Speaker 9: but not an answer. She could have just stood up
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  Speaker 9: and said, no, there's no problems whatsoever. Food is there's
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  Speaker 9: absolutely one hundred percent guarantee that we'll have food in
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  Speaker 9: the supermarkets in Sydney. There's no issue there whatsosoever. And
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  Speaker 9: we can go through the reasons I say that and why,
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  Speaker 9: but we didn't get that. Of course, when you don't
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  Speaker 9: get an answer, people aren't done.
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  Speaker 1: They go, well, that concerns me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the government says is doing a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things, and I accept that it is doing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: The thing is it doesn't seem to be working.
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  Speaker 2: We're they're still seeing country outlets in particularly running out
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  Speaker 2: of fuel. I mean it's simply not working. Don't you
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  Speaker 2: think rationing is a drastic solution, though.
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  Speaker 9: No, I think we've done it before, and I think
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  Speaker 9: we've done it before in crisis that are smaller than
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  Speaker 9: this one. Remember, if this goes on, the biggest thing
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  Speaker 9: we've got to do is have almost some sort of
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  Speaker 9: massleve hierarchy of needs. And so what's at the top, Well,
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  Speaker 9: obviously police ambulance, fire engines, hospital backups. Okay, we've got
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  Speaker 9: no problems there. And then you work your way down,
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  Speaker 9: but you'll get to farmers. You'll get to people providing
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  Speaker 9: fuel for trucks to take produce to the markets, from
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  Speaker 9: the markets to the supermarkets, and down and down and
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  Speaker 9: down you go. See, and to be quite frank, people
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  Speaker 9: who have public transport probably don't have the same requirements
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  Speaker 9: for few all that farmers do to move niney head
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  Speaker 9: of cattle to the saleyards.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, isn't there a wireder story here too?
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  Speaker 2: Because this too will pass, The war will at some
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  Speaker 2: stage be over, and then we'll get back to normal.
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  Speaker 2: If this is called normal, isn't the message really that
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  Speaker 2: this country has got to become more self sufficient in
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  Speaker 2: some crucial things. I'm thinking like petrol, especially diesel, jet fuel, fertilizer, plastics,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: maybe some sorts of pharmaceuticals as well. Now, critics say,
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  Speaker 2: one nation, you've got no policies. What would one nation
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: actually do about that?
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  Speaker 9: Oh, yes, we've got policies all right. The number one
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: is we'll get rid of the Climate Change Department. And
• 15:51
  Speaker 9: removing the Climate Change Department, we remove so many of
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  Speaker 9: the regulations that are a direct impediment to the construction
• 15:58
  Speaker 9: of newal refineries. We believe in the construction of new
• 16:02
  Speaker 9: coffie power plants, we believe in the construction of new
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  Speaker 9: oil refineries. We believe in streamlining the regulations in such
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  Speaker 9: a form as you get greater access to our own oil.
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  Speaker 9: And we do have oil in this nation. And we
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  Speaker 9: completely understand it's not just whether you've got access to fuel,
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  Speaker 9: it's whether you've got access to fuel at a price
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  Speaker 9: that makes it worth while putting a crop in. I
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  Speaker 9: mean it's not Farmers arenstupid. They don't go out there
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  Speaker 9: to lose money. And if the costs are too high,
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  Speaker 9: it's it's not worth doing it. And remember, you've got urear,
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  Speaker 9: you've got diesel, you've got all the things that are
• 16:31
  Speaker 9: pertinent to as part of a crop. It's not so
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  Speaker 9: many times, Andrew, it's not huge margins in this it's
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  Speaker 9: pretty slim margins and they get gobbled up by ridiculously
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  Speaker 9: high price things. So part of our national security, and
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  Speaker 9: my nation believes in national security is having fuel security.
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  Speaker 9: And fuel security means you have to have refining capacity.
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  Speaker 9: If you don't have refining capacity, you don't have fuel security.
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  Speaker 9: And how do you pay for it, Well, you pay
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  Speaker 9: for it by in two forms, by removing the impediments
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  Speaker 9: and the regulatory impediments such as a safeguard mechanism such
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  Speaker 9: as the Climate Change Department, and you funnel that money
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  Speaker 9: into things that are vastly more efficacious in looking after
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  Speaker 9: our nations, such as qulifire power plans and fuel power
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  Speaker 9: and refining a fuel. And if you want to see
• 17:15
  Speaker 9: something that's completely ridiculous and the odds for that, how
• 17:18
  Speaker 9: much money have we wasted chasing green hydrogen?
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  Speaker 1: Just one thing that's well, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not just screen hydro looking absolutely the governments committed nearly
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  Speaker 2: the governments committed nearly nine billion dollars to developing green hydrogen.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: When one scheme after another is falling over but other
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: schemes as well. Barnaby shocking use today, for instance, of
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  Speaker 2: the snowy two point zero pumped hydro scheme that Malcolm
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Turnbull thought was such a.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Great green idea when he gave it the green light.
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  Speaker 9: Here he is, these are big dreams in these mountains,
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  Speaker 9: real courage, a belief in the future.
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  Speaker 1: I am a nation building Prime minister. Believe me God
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  Speaker 1: that mulbra Man Act makes you. But anyway, big nightmares
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  Speaker 1: in their mountains there.
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  Speaker 2: Well talk about nightmares. Madam two Will actually promised that
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  Speaker 2: this you know you buted idea of his would cost
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  Speaker 2: just two billion dollars, just two billion dollars. But now
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Global Ratings Agency S and P. Warren said it's that
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  Speaker 2: the projects revised budget of twelve billion dollars six times
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  Speaker 2: as much. Even that looks like being blown out this
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: year with the projects that they'll not finished. Can you
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: tell me he used to be his deputy Prime minister?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: What got into Malcolm Turbull's head.
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: Malcolm Turnbull's ego got into Malcolm Turnbull's head and Malcolm
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: Turbull basically came in with this stroke of Malcolm turnbull
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  Speaker 9: brilliance of his back of the beer coaster calculations that
• 19:02
  Speaker 9: he was going to take us to this renewed to
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  Speaker 9: the intermittent power underland, and it was only going to
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  Speaker 9: cost two billion dollars, which that's the time, was a
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  Speaker 9: remarkable amount of money. But you know it's funny for
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  Speaker 9: a person who prides himself on his business acumen, he
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: supplied very little details apart from his one vote as
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  Speaker 9: the Prime Minister of Australia as to why we should
• 19:22
  Speaker 9: have this, and all the time we're going with this
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: is crazy. And then the geotech came back and it
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: was up doubled in price. Then the environmental issues came
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: up and a had tripled in price, and then it
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  Speaker 9: went on and no I got curious myself went out
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  Speaker 9: and spoke to it. Some engineers off the record. They said,
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: made this is a complete dog. And remember then what
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  Speaker 9: a myrtle or grace or whatever the borrowing of Florence,
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: a bearing borrowing bearing machine got buried, and.
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  Speaker 1: Baby, what a nightmare.
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  Speaker 9: And think about that if we'd taken that money and
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: built oil refiners with it, or we could refurbish every
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: coll fire power plant in Australia that we have actually
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: fixed our energy crisis.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: But ye know this is what happens when you're getting
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: almost built a nuclear the absolutely gee, the money this
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: country has wasted. Baby by Jowis, thank you so much
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: for your time, my pleasure.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: After the break. My problem with.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Megan Kelly's comments last night on Skyplus shocking you statistics
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: on his mys terrorist plots in Australia. Now, I thought
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I'd kept a close check on his mysterrorism in this country,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: so I was shocked to find that it's even worse
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: than I thought. A new paper by two Australian academics
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Andrew Zamata Levo West, published by the West Point Combating
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Terrorism Center, says there's been a jump in in some
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: mysterror plots here since twenty fourteen, when Islamic state spokesman
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Abu Mohammad al Adnani take them message quoting the Quran
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to tell followers that kill enemies wherever.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: They found them.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: And this graphic in their article tells the story. Jehadist
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: attacks in Australia this century foiled or launched from twenty
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: fourteen on an average of almost three a year, with
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: seven people killed if you include the terrorists, and that
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: though is even before the Bondei massacre last year and
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: now here again allegedly we go. On Tuesday, a Melbourne
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: teenager was arrested in charge with allegedly collecting or making
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: documents that facilitate a terrorist act and one count of
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: importing a prohibited Islamic state flag. And in Germany yesterday,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: by the way, four men were jailed for being part
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of a network storing weapons for potential attacks in Europe
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: under the direction of the Hamas terrorist group funded by Irat.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: So it's not I think, it's not something you can
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: let pass. It's something you've got to do to call
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: out anyone feeding this extremism and the Jew haters, even
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: if it's accidentally, and that includes calling out our government
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and journalists. The Australian Today listed Australian mosques and Islamic
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: associations funded by taxpayers, funded by taxpayers, which had mourned
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the assassination of Iran's Supreme leader Ali Khameni, who had
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: sponsored terrorist groups, he'd ordered the death of Israel and
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: murdered Iranian democracy activists, and also listed Islamic centers which
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: had mourned the leader of the Hesbullah terrorist group. Also
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: assassination also funded by Iran. Plus, I have to correct
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: American podcast and Meghan Kelly, who is also a SKA
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: News contributor, who last night had this angry response to critics,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: of which I'm one appalled at this Spon's fine journalist
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: wasn't calling out two very prominent media figures in America
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: spreading hatred of Jews in Israel, Tucker Carlson and Candace Owans.
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: It's all because I won't denounce Tucker Carlson. That's really
• 23:15
  Speaker 11: what's at the heart of it. They add on Candice Owans,
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: but she and I aren't. We don't even know each other.
• 23:19
  Speaker 11: They are desperate for me to de friend Tucker, who
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: they think is an anti Semite. I disagree with them yourselves.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Now fact check and Kelly has in fact known Candie owns.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Believe that's to one side. One problem I have with
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Kelly is actually the opinions of Kelly herself. Here she
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: is defending a notorious anti semi races neo Nazi, Nick Fuentes,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: who Tucker Carlson had interviewed at length, at very friendly length.
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: He's a very interesting guy.
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: Let's face it, He's obviously got some very extreme views,
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: but he's very interesting, and he's very smart, and on
• 23:59
  Speaker 12: a lot of things, there is value to be derived
• 24:01
  Speaker 12: from that guy's message. Excuse his thoughts on race and
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: Jews and the Holocaust.
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: Now that obviously.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I'm going to show you something disgusting and offensive, but
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you need to know how do it, because you need
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: to know what kind of cretin Megan Kelly is calling
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: interesting and smart and worthy of a discussion on TV. Here,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: for instance, is this Fuentes reading out with pleasure a
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: reader or a listener of his mocking the six million
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Jews murdered in the Holocaust, with many having their bodies
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: then incinerated to hide the satanic crime.
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: Max says, if I take one hour to cook a
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: batch of cookies, and Cookie Monster has fifteen ovens working
• 24:44
  Speaker 13: twenty four hours a day every day for five years,
• 24:47
  Speaker 13: how long does it take Cookie Monster to make six
• 24:50
  Speaker 13: million batches of cookies?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a good question.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I'll just spent the whole night playing more clips of him.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: As for Taker car and here are two examples of
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: his own attitude to Jews and the kind of guests
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: he platforms.
• 25:07
  Speaker 14: The Israelis have been happy to murder tens of thousands
• 25:09
  Speaker 14: of children in Gaza because they believe in blood guild.
• 25:11
  Speaker 14: That's just, that's just, that's the true. They say it
• 25:13
  Speaker 14: out loud. I'm a like, we believe in blood guild,
• 25:15
  Speaker 14: Like the children are responsible for the sins of their parents,
• 25:18
  Speaker 14: so we're going to kill them.
• 25:19
  Speaker 15: Well, it turns out I think the story we got
• 25:21
  Speaker 15: about World War two is all wrong.
• 25:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that's right.
• 25:24
  Speaker 15: And then I read about FDR and FDR's right hand
• 25:27
  Speaker 15: man was a Soviet spy. Certainly was right, and then
• 25:30
  Speaker 15: firm confirmed we should have been. One can make the
• 25:34
  Speaker 15: argument we should have sided with Hitler.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Carlson, Candice Owns, who really is a raging anti Semi
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and Kelly had between them nearly what twenty million follows,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: probably more in the United States, and what they are
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: spreading or refusing to call out in Kelly's case is.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: To my mind, extremely dangerous.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: So Megan Kelly on our network claims she's the VIC
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: she dodges responsibility, then that too needs to be called
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: out before even more people get hurt. Joining me is
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Rowan Deane from Chief of the Spectator Australia, hosts of
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Outsiders every Sunday at nine am and hosts of his
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: own show on Fridays at seven pm. Rowan, I've also
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: heard you on your show on Outsiders call out Tucker
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Carlson and others. I mean, it's so puzzling what is
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: going on with the far right in the United States.
• 26:29
  Speaker 16: Well, it's not so well, call it the far right
• 26:31
  Speaker 16: or the hard right or whatever you want, the reality
• 26:34
  Speaker 16: is and it's really disappointing. There is a very slim
• 26:38
  Speaker 16: part of the so called Maga movement who are chronic
• 26:42
  Speaker 16: isolationists and hate the fact that America is in another war,
• 26:47
  Speaker 16: and they misrepresent Donald Trump's basic platform to say that
• 26:52
  Speaker 16: Donald Trump said we would never be in any war whatsoever,
• 26:54
  Speaker 16: We would never go to war. And that's okay isolationism,
• 26:58
  Speaker 16: and you know, that sort of extra dream anti war
• 27:01
  Speaker 16: rehtoric is fine. But the three people you mentioned, particularly
• 27:05
  Speaker 16: Candorso and Tucker Carlson, but also and Nick point Is obviously,
• 27:10
  Speaker 16: but also Meghan Kelly, have got onto this bandwagon of
• 27:14
  Speaker 16: ah the Iran war.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: It's all Israel's fault. It's the Jews.
• 27:18
  Speaker 16: It's the Jews who dragged that silly little Donald Trump
• 27:23
  Speaker 16: who doesn't know his own mind off into a war
• 27:26
  Speaker 16: and convinced him to go to war with Iran because
• 27:29
  Speaker 16: of some little skirmish the Jews are having with the Iranians.
• 27:32
  Speaker 16: It's so dangerous, it's so wrong. Megan Kelly has basically
• 27:37
  Speaker 16: said after the I think it was thirteen or fifteen
• 27:41
  Speaker 16: service men and women died.
• 27:46
  Speaker 14: On in Theish.
• 27:50
  Speaker 16: The boys all died for Israel.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: But it's fine to be opposed.
• 27:55
  Speaker 16: To war, that's fine. But if you're misplacing the blame.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: For the war.
• 28:01
  Speaker 16: Extreme anti Semitism.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I keep going on because your sound broke, broke down
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: for a while.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Keep you sorry.
• 28:08
  Speaker 16: Yeah, So, if you're flirting with this idea that it's
• 28:11
  Speaker 16: the Jews who are responsible for the America's war with Iran,
• 28:17
  Speaker 16: then you are basically saying, you know, it's Israel's fault,
• 28:20
  Speaker 16: They're the ones to blame they. You know, it's that
• 28:23
  Speaker 16: global octo puss of Jewish terrible world domination thing. Is
• 28:28
  Speaker 16: all of that, and Meghan Kelly is allowing herself, whether
• 28:31
  Speaker 16: deliberately or not, to play into that, as I said,
• 28:33
  Speaker 16: by making comments such as the American soldiers who died
• 28:36
  Speaker 16: or died for Israel, No, they died for the West.
• 28:39
  Speaker 16: They died for America. They died for you and me
• 28:42
  Speaker 16: Andrew and Meghan, they died for.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: You as well.
• 28:44
  Speaker 16: Because the radical Islam that is at the heart of
• 28:47
  Speaker 16: the Iranian regime, it is radical Islam. It has its
• 28:53
  Speaker 16: ideology and its power and its weapons and its agents
• 28:57
  Speaker 16: spread throughout the world. And we have seeing that in Australia.
• 29:01
  Speaker 16: We have seen the terror Australia in Australia. So to
• 29:06
  Speaker 16: try and play ten Iran is just a little skirmish,
• 29:09
  Speaker 16: and it's Israel's call is to me extremely dangerous. And
• 29:14
  Speaker 16: I'm sorry, but I find Tucker Carlson seems to get
• 29:19
  Speaker 16: stupid by the day. He's running around saying that the
• 29:21
  Speaker 16: West should have Sharia law to tidy up our cities.
• 29:24
  Speaker 16: And he's running around convinced that the Gulf is the
• 29:26
  Speaker 16: place to live because they have shopping carts that the
• 29:29
  Speaker 16: elevator when it goes up and down, which all shopping
• 29:32
  Speaker 16: carts do. But anyway, apparently he's just learned this in
• 29:34
  Speaker 16: the Gulf, so he's that's sort of strange look that
• 29:38
  Speaker 16: Tucker Carlson used to do, not looking very bright. Perhaps
• 29:41
  Speaker 16: it wasn't a look. Perhaps he's just not very bright
• 29:44
  Speaker 16: and certainly.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: But exactly correct, exactly flirting with Nick Flack does to Carlson.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: There's something else with him, mate, that Tucker Carlson doesn't
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: seem to realize.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, you see it in the papers now.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It's actually Saudi Arabia that's been begging Donald Trump to
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: go in even harder against the Iran to remove this
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: cancer in the Middle East. That the head of Saudi
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Arabia is on Donald Trump's case to go in harder.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: So where's the story?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: So oh no, we're just doing this for the Arabs,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean really, but listen, I'm running out
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of time, but I've got to ask you about this.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: You know, what is it with me? We've talked about
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: that segment of the right.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: What about the left?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: It seems impermanent love with tyrants. I thought they'd learned
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: some lessons. But you check out this astonishing post by
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Abigail Boyd. She's a Greens MP in New South Wales, Cuba.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: She writes, the communist dictatorship Cuba remains one of the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: most endurance symbols of the possibility of an alternative to
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: US dominated capitalism. To stand with Cuba today is to
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: stand on the right side of history, alongside movements of sovereignty,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: dignity as social justice across the global South.
• 31:00
  Speaker 16: Your response, well, Abigail, there are over a million Cubans
• 31:05
  Speaker 16: who would disagree with you, and who have done everything
• 31:07
  Speaker 16: they possibly can to flee that regime. Another regime, this
• 31:11
  Speaker 16: one a communist one which murders dissidents, which engages in
• 31:16
  Speaker 16: the most vile human abuses in order to seize control,
• 31:19
  Speaker 16: to keep control of the population, drove them into poverty,
• 31:23
  Speaker 16: keeps them there and as I said, over a million
• 31:25
  Speaker 16: Cubans have risk sharks drowning, you name it, to flee
• 31:32
  Speaker 16: that horrible regime to seek shelter and safety in America.
• 31:36
  Speaker 16: There's your answer. I don't see a million Floridans Floridians
• 31:40
  Speaker 16: swimming across the waters towards Cuba. Maybe Abigail would like
• 31:44
  Speaker 16: to try it and be the first one.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I try to tell you what you know.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: If it's going so well, Abigail, why don't the Cuban
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: communists allow their people an honest vote to see whether
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: they would love to endorse this wonderful regime that you it'
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: tout But you don't live under Rondine Thank you so
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: much for your time after the break. Did climate changements
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: of Crispone lie today or just make an innocent mistake
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: under pressure? Let me come back to something I mentioned
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: earlier in the show, because this.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Uh doesn't smell right.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I played you earlier climate change and energy mister Crispone
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: and listening all the service stations around the country which
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: he said had run out of fuel. And when you
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: added up his figures, hey, good news. Fewer stations petrol
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: stations than yesterday. You know, we're on top of this.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Except Bowen left out one figure, as I said earlier,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: a crucial figure. At least three hundred and fourteen service
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: stations in New South Wales had run out of one
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: particular form of one or more sources of fuel. Now
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: that means there were actually more than six hundred petrol
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: stations around today running out of some form of petrol.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: And that's more than one hundred above yesterday's figure. It's
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: getting worse, it's not getting better. Jeremy Ascarne, your host,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: jameson Ferson and Communications consulted with Christi Mtsweeney who's worked
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: for Coldesh and prime ministers and premiers.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: James An innocent mistake.
• 33:19
  Speaker 17: Right Andrew, many years ago, I confused diesel with unlettered
• 33:24
  Speaker 17: It was a very expensive mistake on my part. This
• 33:27
  Speaker 17: was not a mistake on Chris Bowen's part. He deliberately
• 33:31
  Speaker 17: fudged the figures so that he could stand in the
• 33:34
  Speaker 17: Parliament and tell the country fewer petrol stations were lacking
• 33:38
  Speaker 17: fuel today than yesterday. And to quote Winston Churchill, by
• 33:42
  Speaker 17: the time the truth got its pants on, the lie
• 33:45
  Speaker 17: had gone around the country. The great thing for Chris
• 33:48
  Speaker 17: Bowen was there was a degree of plausible deniability. Well
• 33:52
  Speaker 17: technically I think, however, the days of giving Chris Bowen
• 33:56
  Speaker 17: the benefit of the doubt are long gone.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Christy, you have been advising political leaders
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: and communications.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: That was well where he put that.
• 34:10
  Speaker 18: One statistics, statistics and more damn statistics, isn't it. They
• 34:17
  Speaker 18: can be interpreted. It's fun any way you like. And
• 34:23
  Speaker 18: the poor Australian public thinks they get facts and figures
• 34:26
  Speaker 18: and they can't be interpreted. But you know, politics, it's
• 34:29
  Speaker 18: a whole different ballgame in how we choose to portray
• 34:33
  Speaker 18: the data. Look, the government is very much in the hole.
• 34:37
  Speaker 18: I don't think, and I highly doubt Chris Bowen wants
• 34:40
  Speaker 18: to stand up there and recite statistics every day like
• 34:44
  Speaker 18: he's some sort of health bureaucrat in COVID when he
• 34:48
  Speaker 18: wants to appear like he's managing the crisis, but he
• 34:53
  Speaker 18: is reduced to the position of standing up in front
• 34:57
  Speaker 18: of people in Parliament reciting numbers. Now, that's not statesmanlike.
• 35:02
  Speaker 18: That's not solving a crisis, and neither he nor the
• 35:07
  Speaker 18: Prime Minister. And the question time displayed today with the
• 35:10
  Speaker 18: Prime Minister going off on some flailing rant about the
• 35:14
  Speaker 18: opposition's tactics, some piece of legislation very much tick for
• 35:19
  Speaker 18: tat was not statesman like either in a national crisis.
• 35:23
  Speaker 18: And to top it all off, I don't think either
• 35:26
  Speaker 18: of them have spoken to a farmer recently out on
• 35:30
  Speaker 18: the land. The NFF has had to come to them
• 35:33
  Speaker 18: and they've got them over a barrel.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: To be honest, now, James, the government says it's doing plenty,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and they do a whole list, you know, changing the
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: fuel standards to allow higher self for petrol to be
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: sold here instead of export overseas, changing diesel fuel regulations
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: to allow a different kind of deail. All that come
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: in as well, they're doing lots of things, but when
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I hear their answers, it's a very left wing fail.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're all prone to it, but they're left
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: in particular where they honor the process. Look at all
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the things we're doing, but when you see all the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: empty petrol stations, the result isn't there.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: It's clearly failing.
• 36:21
  Speaker 17: Yeah, well, Andrew, of course, the point is the process,
• 36:24
  Speaker 17: not the result. I think we know that about the
• 36:26
  Speaker 17: Albanezy government whenever you hear the Prime Minister speak, and
• 36:29
  Speaker 17: he does this all the time, not just on the
• 36:31
  Speaker 17: fuel issue, but the last couple of days he's talked
• 36:34
  Speaker 17: about how we are acting methodically, responsibly, orderly, and so
• 36:40
  Speaker 17: that's the process. You talk about the result panic buying.
• 36:44
  Speaker 17: So I'm not sure how those two go together. And
• 36:46
  Speaker 17: speaking of panic buying, which we're told is the problem,
• 36:50
  Speaker 17: what that I could afford to panic buy? I mean,
• 36:53
  Speaker 17: it's all very well that they talk about which petrol
• 36:55
  Speaker 17: stations do and don't have fuel. I drive past petrol
• 36:58
  Speaker 17: stations every day, have plenty of fuel. I just wish
• 37:02
  Speaker 17: I could afford three dollars and twenty cents a later
• 37:05
  Speaker 17: to fill my vehicle. So there's a lot of process,
• 37:08
  Speaker 17: but the result is the same. The crisis goes from
• 37:11
  Speaker 17: bad to worse, while the government congratulates itself on being orderly,
• 37:16
  Speaker 17: methodical and responsible.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Now, Chrissy, you know you were among in your communications
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: roles to political leaders.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: You would have been.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Advising them at times of doing things that make it
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: seem they're doing, you know, tackling an issue even when
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: you know they're not doing it, so you know, as
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: well as giving very good advice to actually do stuff.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you did that too. Here's an example. Dissect
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: this one for me. The Prime Minister says it's now
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: going to call another cabinet meet, National cabinet meeting, that's
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: with all the premiers there, but it's only only after
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: the weekend. I think he needs time to put his
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: feed up for a little breather, I mean, so it's
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: going to be on Monday, a weekend in between. The
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: last one resulted in Albanizi appointing of fuel Tar to
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: fix all this. Anthea Harris, who's actually a bureaucrat whose
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: whole career was about making us use less fossil fuels,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: not more, to is a climate change bureaucrat it looks
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: like she's finally getting a wish. By the way, because
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the sure is less fossil fuel that the pumps at
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the moment, how do you rate this particular effort of
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: his that I'm on top of it. There'll be a meeting,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: but after the weekend, it is fear to lob.
• 38:34
  Speaker 18: The criticism at the government that they were very slow
• 38:37
  Speaker 18: to start and very slow to give the public certainty
• 38:41
  Speaker 18: when people first became worried that we would run out
• 38:44
  Speaker 18: of fuel and that they were seeing prices going up
• 38:46
  Speaker 18: and up and up, and farmers started to say, this
• 38:49
  Speaker 18: is going to get really dangerous to get food and
• 38:52
  Speaker 18: fiber to the shops, freight, transport, logistics, all of these
• 38:56
  Speaker 18: things and supply chains need to be considered. They left
• 38:59
  Speaker 18: it two weeks whilst they tried to tell the Australian
• 39:04
  Speaker 18: public there was no crisis and there was nothing to
• 39:06
  Speaker 18: see here, and blamed the public for buying fuel. So
• 39:10
  Speaker 18: there was no certainty. There was no working with major
• 39:14
  Speaker 18: stakeholders that the public could see. And now we're facing
• 39:18
  Speaker 18: another gap and there is a reason why the Prime
• 39:22
  Speaker 18: Minister hasn't gone out to one of Labour's regional seats.
• 39:25
  Speaker 18: They hold Bendigo, they hold Ballarat, key agricultural areas in Victoria.
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  Speaker 18: He doesn't want to go out there and have a
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  Speaker 18: load of upset farmers at him. He doesn't want a
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  Speaker 18: Scott Morrison Idenho's a hose mate moment and he knows
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  Speaker 18: if he gets out to a regional town that is
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  Speaker 18: what is likely to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how all this is playing out politically, James.
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  Speaker 17: Well, I think it's playing out very badly, Andrew. I mean,
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  Speaker 17: when you start hitting people in their hip pocket, and
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  Speaker 17: when they're starting to make decisions to whether or not
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  Speaker 17: they take their kids to their sporting event this weekend
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  Speaker 17: or whether they say, sorry, we can't afford the fuel,
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  Speaker 17: I'll tell you that starts to hit politically. And this
• 40:09
  Speaker 17: government continues to give at least a perception, and I
• 40:12
  Speaker 17: think it's a little more than a perception that they
• 40:14
  Speaker 17: are completely incompetent and totally unprepared for future events. So
• 40:20
  Speaker 17: how does it work out politically? I can't see any
• 40:22
  Speaker 17: gain for the government. There's only loss in this and
• 40:25
  Speaker 17: they're going to go from bad to worse. I think
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  Speaker 17: blind Freddie can see that no one has confidence. The
• 40:30
  Speaker 17: reason people are panic buying is. People don't believe that
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  Speaker 17: Anthony Albanezi or Chris Bowen have any solution to this.
• 40:37
  Speaker 17: They've got a fuel zar and what's she doing? What
• 40:40
  Speaker 17: difference has that made? They're having a national Cabinet meeting.
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  Speaker 17: Sounds very impressive, but for what no one believes.
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  Speaker 1: That they're going to be.
• 40:47
  Speaker 17: Maybe they point of second one, maybe maybe three.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're point of second fuel So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Three three, mate, I'll do four Christy politically amount of time,
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  Speaker 2: but I just want your opinion.
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  Speaker 1: How does this play out?
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  Speaker 18: I agree it plays out very badly for the government.
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  Speaker 18: They've left the vacuum at the start. They're struggling to
• 41:08
  Speaker 18: catch up. I think it is very hard for the government,
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  Speaker 18: Chris Bowen in particular, to build trust with farmers and
• 41:17
  Speaker 18: with regional Australians. The government has hardly been the best
• 41:21
  Speaker 18: friend farmers have ever had. There's certainly examples, keep the
• 41:24
  Speaker 18: sheep with live export, their climate change targets, very significant
• 41:30
  Speaker 18: regulations imposed on regional communities and regional economies, and farmers
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  Speaker 18: don't necessarily trust that the government will help and look
• 41:38
  Speaker 18: after them. But I will pay credit to the National
• 41:40
  Speaker 18: Farmers Federation particularly here in Victoria, Brett Hoskin, who has
• 41:44
  Speaker 18: really pulled all the leverage out of the government for
• 41:48
  Speaker 18: our farmers and they have filled the vacuum.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Christy, it sounds that you sound like someone who's
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: been spending a bit of time over the last few
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: days in the farm in Farmland to give us perspective.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Christian.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, I got it right. Thank you very much.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: James the First and Christopher Sweeney, thank you very much
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: to you both. After the break Patrick Christie's and the
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: new female leader of the Anglican Church. There's something about
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: her ceremony yesterday that didn't seem quite right. Well, the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Anglican Church has its first female leader. Siah Malayley was
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: enthroned yesterday as Archbishop of Canterbury.
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  Speaker 19: I solemnly commit myself before you to the service of
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  Speaker 19: the Church of England, the Anglican Communion and the whole
• 42:42
  Speaker 19: Church of Christ throughout the world.
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  Speaker 2: Straight off a warning sign, at least to me, it
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  Speaker 2: was a multicultural celebration. Now, fine, you know, I've been
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Africa like that, Muzuka, Ghana and Kenya and all that
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  Speaker 2: love it. But still I thought the Church in prace
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: the one culture, the Christian culture. And I don't want
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to be that kind of smart at diagnostic who quotes
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: the Bible.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: That a church leader, but it will be. Saint Paul did.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Stress that you are all one in Jesus Christ. But
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: here we go atdentity politics even in church. Joining me
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: every Thursday from London's Patrick Christie's Star presenter Juby News Patrick,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: what kind of woman is she?
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  Speaker 20: Well, she's the Archbishop of woek Andre. People hope that
• 43:47
  Speaker 20: she might ditch all this virtue signaling nonsense and focus
• 43:50
  Speaker 20: more on the core message of Christianity in this Christian country.
• 43:53
  Speaker 20: But a few days ago the Pakistani flag was raised
• 43:56
  Speaker 20: over Westminster Abbey to helped celebrate Pakistan Dai. The church
• 44:00
  Speaker 20: talking about a billion pounds for sleep reparations. They're constantly
• 44:05
  Speaker 20: just banging on about climate change. They believe in open borders.
• 44:09
  Speaker 20: They're dead against doing anything to deport people. The Anglican
• 44:12
  Speaker 20: Church has been accused of helping illegal migrants fraudulently stay
• 44:16
  Speaker 20: in Britain by pretending to convert to Christianity. So yesterday's
• 44:19
  Speaker 20: ceremony was no shock really, I mean, it didn't take
• 44:21
  Speaker 20: them long to bring out the African tribal dancers did it.
• 44:24
  Speaker 20: And we had the Archbishop of Mexico who just stood
• 44:28
  Speaker 20: up and spoke in Spanish. And you know, this follows
• 44:30
  Speaker 20: King Charles hosting the Nigerian leader for a state visit
• 44:34
  Speaker 20: a couple of weeks ago, and people had hoped that
• 44:35
  Speaker 20: he might raise the fact that tens of thousands of
• 44:38
  Speaker 20: Christians are being killed by Islamis in Nigeria, a real
• 44:41
  Speaker 20: genocide taking place. He didn't raise it. So you know,
• 44:45
  Speaker 20: here we go. I mean, it looks like more of
• 44:47
  Speaker 20: the same, unfortunately, and it's no wonder that more are
• 44:51
  Speaker 20: more people are converting to Catholicism in this country from
• 44:56
  Speaker 20: the Anglican Church, perhaps wanting a slightly stronger message.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Now London, it's you know, I've shown video here. It's
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the you know, the world's capital for street thefts of
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: mobile phones. Who walked down the street, someone on the
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: buck grabs it. But the most interesting theft of them,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: all of that kind, is one from someone last October
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: who was walking down the street and some chap allegedly
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: stole his phone. This is the guy being mister Morgan McSweeney,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: who was the Prime Minister's chief of staff, at the time,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: and the PM's office now refuses.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: To say whether.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: And this is so how sad, what a terrible coincidence
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: that meant that theft meant that he'd lost texts about
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the disgraced Lord Peter Mandelsson, who was close to convicted
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Pedophi Jeffrey Epstein, when the Prime ministers still appointed Mandilsson
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: as ambassador to Washington.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe does this think a bit?
• 45:57
  Speaker 20: It stinks so much as putrid. He can smell it
• 46:00
  Speaker 20: from Australia, can't you. This is one of the most
• 46:03
  Speaker 20: important phones in the country. All of the information involving
• 46:06
  Speaker 20: Peter Mandalson in his appointment on this boat. Now mandalsoon
• 46:10
  Speaker 20: was sat on the eleventh of September. About a month later,
• 46:14
  Speaker 20: the Labor Party became very worried that they were going
• 46:16
  Speaker 20: to be asked to produce all of the whatsape messages
• 46:18
  Speaker 20: between Mandleson and McSweeney, And on the twentieth of October,
• 46:22
  Speaker 20: McSweeney's phone was stolen. Now, look, he gave the police
• 46:27
  Speaker 20: the wrong street name and then didn't correct them when
• 46:30
  Speaker 20: they said that they couldn't find any CCTV. They tried
• 46:33
  Speaker 20: to call him back on his personal phone twice he
• 46:35
  Speaker 20: didn't answer it. The government security services made no attempt
• 46:39
  Speaker 20: to try to find the phone themselves, even though he's
• 46:41
  Speaker 20: got a tracker on it. I mean, look, you know,
• 46:44
  Speaker 20: I'm not accusing him of lying or anything, but what
• 46:46
  Speaker 20: I am saying is that he's the only man in
• 46:47
  Speaker 20: Britain who's very happy that his phone's been nicked and
• 46:50
  Speaker 20: very happy that they can't find it. And it's just
• 46:54
  Speaker 20: absolutely ludicrous. This thing, It just smacks of a monumental
• 46:58
  Speaker 20: cover up, doesn't it.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I know, it's almost like whether it's traw or not,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: look bad luck. It looks like you're gone. And the
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: thing is, you know it comes. This is not the
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: most open government right you've ever known. And I've got
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to say there's something really odd about something that seems
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: another cover up. You see, your government seems to be
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: giving free houses to illegal immigrants and it won't say
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: what exactly it's up to.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Here tell us about this one.
• 47:32
  Speaker 20: Yeah, look, massive scandal. This really so the government is
• 47:35
  Speaker 20: pumping tens of millions of pounds into a scheme to
• 47:38
  Speaker 20: renovate council houses social houses and put asylum seekers in them,
• 47:43
  Speaker 20: not homeless military veterans, not the one point two million
• 47:46
  Speaker 20: people who were already on a housing waiting list, not
• 47:48
  Speaker 20: you know, single mums who've fallen on hard time, fled
• 47:51
  Speaker 20: domestic abuse, all of that stuff. Now this is just
• 47:53
  Speaker 20: going to asylum seekers, many of whom will have entered
• 47:56
  Speaker 20: Britain illegally. However, we submitted a freedom of information request
• 48:00
  Speaker 20: here asking to know exactly how many councils are taking
• 48:03
  Speaker 20: part and exactly how many homes they would be, and
• 48:05
  Speaker 20: the Home Office got back to us and said, we
• 48:07
  Speaker 20: do hold this information. We do think it's in the
• 48:10
  Speaker 20: public interest, but we're not going to tell you anyway.
• 48:13
  Speaker 20: And one of the main reasons for not telling us,
• 48:15
  Speaker 20: I believe, is that they think that if we all
• 48:17
  Speaker 20: knew the truth, people would be very angry about it.
• 48:20
  Speaker 20: I think people have a right to know if their
• 48:23
  Speaker 20: local area is going to be used to have renovated
• 48:26
  Speaker 20: social housing at their expense, that asylum seekers are going
• 48:29
  Speaker 20: to be push in. I think that's a right that
• 48:31
  Speaker 20: people in this country have. The Home Office is covering
• 48:34
  Speaker 20: that up. They do not want us to know, and
• 48:36
  Speaker 20: it's an absolute shocker really and it just makes you
• 48:38
  Speaker 20: think again, you know, what is it They've got to
• 48:40
  Speaker 20: hide and It comes after a spate of rapes, murders,
• 48:44
  Speaker 20: horrific crimes sadly committed by some asylum seekers in this country,
• 48:49
  Speaker 20: and people will be very very nervous about this particular scheme.
• 48:53
  Speaker 20: The government should be telling us exactly what's going on, if,
• 48:56
  Speaker 20: of course they've got nothing to hide.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Well, Patrick, you don't think they're actually the modest type
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: that do a good deed and say forsooth. I do
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: not want to boast of my goodness to the world.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I cannot tell you how many people I'm helping. I mean,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: maybe it's that, maybe they're just very modest people. Except
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I think you're right on the button there, Patrick Christie's
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. Thank you, talk
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: to you next week. Coming up next is the excellent
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Shrry Markson, But for me, it's good night.