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The Lack Of Us - The Last Of Us - Episode Seven Review "Left Behind" · For All Nerds Show

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com Slash for All Nerds. Welcome is the Emergency Broadcasting System and What's up,
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y'all? And welcome to another episode of The Lack of Us, a
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podcast covering the last of us from the perspective of people of color, where
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our mottos inclusion is revolution. Powered by four All Nerds. It's your boy,
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spoken on that Indonesia clicker bait here on the I guess it's not really a
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spaceship, but you know, we here night, yeah nights. I like
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that here in the p Tree Dish alongside my wonderful co host Tatiana King aka
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four Sports and seven years Ago AKA for Us by the Last of us aka,
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The Blacks of Us aka Elliott Ness and Yes BENHAMI. We are back
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here to talk all things about episode seven of this first season of The Lack
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of Us. I gave you the title of teen Angst at them All.
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I don't know about how you felt about the title on this or how or
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how you felt about the overall story of this episode. It was cool,
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um, it was interesting. You know, well, we'll get to that.
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Um. Yeah, the Blacks of Us though, I wanted to talk
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about that because I almost wanted to name the podcast the Blacks of Us.
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But as we see, the Blacks of Us are getting you know, mistreated,
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you know, once again, it is the Lack of Us, you
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know. But it goes back to what I've also said before time and time
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again. You cannot have inclusion and revolution without having people taking els. But
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man, we're you know, yeah, we're over We're over something on this
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show right now. But also you know, because it reminds me of a
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comment we received on Twitter and I have to be here, like you know,
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Nigga's Divydaby right like there's gonna be times where it is the black character
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you want them to be there from them this that in the third and then
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they take the L. And my thing is, if it makes sense for
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them to take the L, then so fucking bid, wrong plays, wrong
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time for you. Right, I'm not going to cry with spilled milk like
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that. It's when it's like if it's a black character and I'm not saying
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that's what happened this episode. I'm talking in generalities, but it's a black
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character and it's like the writing goes out of its way and mistreat that character,
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or like it's just extra or it's just like incredibly much more traumatic and
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more so because that character is black. Then that's kind of when I have
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st having my problems. So yo, I'm I'm listening. Traumatic shit happens
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every day too. Like shit happens, and as you already alluded to,
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if you want us to be included and have full fledgedful stories, bad shit's
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gonna happen. Happened, it is one of it, just like in our
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lives. It's real humans. Bad shit happens, Okay, good shit happens,
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Foul shit happens, Amazing shit happens. It is what it is.
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It's just a full spectrum of life. And I'm okay with that. It's
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when it's just like you're deliberately writing this person to be a bastard, you
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know what I'm saying in a less it's just that part of this characterisation,
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just like, all right, you're going out to wear it's clear you don't
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like black people. When when is that? Then? I got other than
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that, I'm good, Yeah, I'm good. I'm still wondering what was
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that comment on Twitter though? What was exactly? Oh, they were just
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talking about Henry, how we felt so bad, like how we felt so
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hurt about the Henry and Sam. Oh yeah, whenever people start off with
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you say, oh, you know, I'm black, I'm all about blackness.
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But it wasn't that serious. And I'm like, listen, y'all,
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like, don't tell not And I'm gonna repeat some of my response. I'm
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not a fan of telling other people how to feel. Not Number one and
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number two like that shit hurt, hurt it and still hurts me, Like,
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um it it was I was I'm investing in that particular character, in
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those particular characters and what that story was, and and and they were well
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inserted into the story and then to be invested in and then come out go
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out like that. That shit was wild. Okay. I think that might
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have affected my reaction to this episode, because I was like, ain't no
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way right in making out of this one? You know, I had no
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hope for her. You know, I didn't even think because she was black.
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I'm just like, because this is the last of us added and there's
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always and I said this before, there's always an air as it should be,
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of danger and possible death at every other line of dialogue said by a
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character. Anytime the camera's not perfectly centered in a shot, anytime the fucking
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leaf blows in the frame, I'm fucking shaking in my boots, like,
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Oh, what's the funk's about to happen? And then I'll be And that's
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what's masterful about it, because throughout this whole goddamn episode, I'm like,
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Yo, what the fuck about to happen? Oh, they're about to take
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the l right here, right here here. You know what I'm saying.
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I'm trying. I'm anticipating the els and there's nose elves coming, and then
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when it does come, you're not fucking prepared and I hate that shit.
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But that's masterful work because I can't guess it. See, in this one,
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I didn't breathe. I thought it was well done. I wouldn't say
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masterful because I thought it would like it kind of stretched it out after a
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while, because you know, it's, oh yeah. Let me be clear,
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I'm not talking about the episode. I'm talking about masterful work in seating
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fear throughout a show, seating fear throughout regular situations that you see characters talking.
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It could really be a truly innocuous situation, but you still feel the
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tense undercurrent. That's what I'm talking about. And I think this show does
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that masterfully. I think so. It definitely appoints, and even in this
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episode, I think it was pretty well done. It even reminded me of
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there's a classic I think it's all a touch of evil. It's an Alfred
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Hitchcock joint where the opening shot is super long. It's one of the first,
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you know, super long shots like that. But they put a bomb
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in the back of his car, and then the camera follows this car and
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the dude driving obviously doesn't know there's a bomb in the back of the car,
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but the audience countdown or something. Well, yeah, and it's like,
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you know, I don't want to spoil it because it's a class thinking
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you should pep. It's probably on YouTube at least that shot. But the
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camera then follows this car throughout the shot and it's super ill. And that's
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what this reminded me of in a way, where it's like they show you
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dude, you know, up against the wall, and you know what's going
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to happen, because you know, these girls are out there making noise and
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doing the things that are gonna trap them, and eventually his ass don't show
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up. You know, at some point in this episode, you knew that
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man was coming for them, you know, and I thought it wasn't the
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same man that fell through the room through the steps. No, that was
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the dude. No, that was the dude who they showed he was vegged
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up against the wall. He was the same guy. No, No,
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the dude who fell through the steps is random. Yeah, he had another
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building. Remember they went jumping over you know. No, No, I'm
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talking about my man who's Yeah. And then for the rest of the episode,
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up until he came through, you knew he was coming because they're over
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here making all kind of noise, they're yelling at each other, just being
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knocking the trash can over and she walking out and then once again this goes
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back to to me like dumb dumb things, like dumb ass kids, and
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it's just like, bro y'all, that's like how I felt with um,
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Henry y'all in a dangerous ass environment and situation. Why why are you acting
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like everything like everything chill, like I don't understand. Everything's not sweet right
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now. And granted she says she's been living there, right she has an
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essentially false sense of security, like, oh, there's no there's no effected
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in here. Nobody knows about this. It hasn't been lit up until like
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literally that week I think, or that day, a couple of days ago.
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She said so because they hadn't had electricity, and they didn't they wasn't
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looking at the damn mall. They were trying to light up a different block.
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But the point is I could see how it's made to be like,
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look, no one knows about this place. It is what is me and
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myself personally. I don't trust shit. I don't trust shit mall before and
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that's what abuve me out like she'd been living there and she ain't went through
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it, you know, placed my place and like, oh noticed, for
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real, dude had been there. You know. It wasn't like dude was
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like fresh there. You know, he had mad growth around him. He
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had been sitting there. He had been waiting for somebody to come through so
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he could eat him up. And you know, I mean, I know
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we say niggas die every day, be he but God damn fam Like I
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guess you know, still so every baby. So let's continue that just about
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the things we liked. Like, I know that some of that stuff you're
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like, why didn't have to happen like that? But one of the things
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that we both liked, Storm read was really what she camera screen. I
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lit up, I said, Storm, yes, and and it's so good
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because I and I know us both. But I've watched her grow up on
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this on as an actress. So you've seen her when she was very much
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younger. Wasn't she ruled from the Hunger Game? Don't That was another girl?
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That was no, that was no. That's um yeah, that was
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no, that wasn't. But my point is she was rude. But I
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remember the name rue. She was Ruth's little sister in Or is Ruth's little
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sister in Euphor? And um, you know she was in things? Uh
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what was it the movie that Oprah like produced whatever? But Storm? And
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then Storm's also in that movie. I wanted to see where, um where
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like her mom got kidnapped and like she's trying to after her like the social
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media stuff. Yeah. So anyway, like I just I just really enjoyed
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Storm as an actor and like all the stuff that she's been in and and
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and to see her expand in this way is really cool, right, And
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I mean talk about the span Storm got tall like she yam on Ellie and
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probably is in there too, like she is now the little sister became the
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sister boy behind your old g Now, yeah that was that was the highlight
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of this episode, seeing Storm and her guest starring ass rightly rightly. Yeah,
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h what else did you like? Then? Let's see, Um I
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love Okay, I was not the I guess I'm looking at your notes.
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It was a very huge story. I guess you know. It was like
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you've been let me let me say this because I will similarly characterization coming of
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age story. They did drag it it was dragging the ed and they dragged
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it with things that were like I was like, okay, this is I'm
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it left me wondering, all right, and this is something that I was
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thinking about, right, Okay. There was a lot of use of like
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eighties imagery, you know, the mall, the the walkman, you know
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from the very jump the Walkman, the aha you know, you see the
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aha and then you hear aha, you know. And then they even had
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the mask on. One of them had like the wolf mash and they're standing
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on the lighted wolf. Yeah, teen wolf. And also like Thriller where
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they're standing on the lighted step, you know. And or is that beat
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it? You know you have beat it? Right, Billy Jean, Billy
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Jean one two three missed? Yeah, so Billy Jean. You know all
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these different references, and I'm like, okay, these girls know nothing about
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that, you know, Like, so why other than the writers probably know
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a lot about that? Is yeah? Well yeah, but you know what
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for them not to know certain things, they knew some things too, right,
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And this is what I actually when you talk about the eighties references stuff
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like that and this stuff. Remember a few episodes back, I kept asking,
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and I didn't buy what y'all, what you or the audience, what
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people listening was telling me. When I was like, how did Ellie know
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how to use a cassette? And y'all came up with all this, Oh,
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because there's stuff from the bygone era around she figured it out. I'm
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like, I don't know, because like I would never pick up a goddamn
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cassette if I had no idea what the fuck that was or try to figure
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it out. So this is why, because she's been using it and that's
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just something that she's used and listened to the music and all this other stuff.
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So she has history with this. So I really liked them showing where
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all that came from. But that was the answer to my question. Okay,
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well that was good, you know, nice little callback and connection there
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made there. But it is also like, okay, all these eighties references,
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I was just on a girl who you know, grew up in the
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two thousands. I was just trying to bid, like, well, you
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know what, let's think about it this way. Ben Like the gen Z
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now, like they're real big on the early two thousands, and that was
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twenty years ago now, So if a person who was born in you know,
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it's a two thousand and three girl. If the eighties is their influence,
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that was twenty years ago right from that point, right, So I
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mean this is also true. Nostalgia is usually about you know, twenty and
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forty year generations and shot like that. Yeah. So I mean, so
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I could I could see this is still popping now, right. And also
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when you think about it, they had to had to be that stuff from
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either eighties or early nights, because those are the only thing that would work
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in this type of environment, at least in the environment where they're building back
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up to having ship like a power grid, they're building back up to having
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things like regular power, regular running water, things like that. Like,
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there's certain more modern things that maybe you see in two thousand and three that
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may not like, for example, you would see no goddamn IMAX in there,
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right, because even if you have power for it is not connected to
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no internet, There is no inn as far as I know, there's no
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things that would make stuff of the two thousands era makes sense right there.
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So for me, I was like, wasn't really surprised at some of the
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eighties stuff making it in. And there's also a mall and that's all.
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I mean, it's nineties two, it is, but eighties is like that,
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you know, like every movie it takes place in the eighties in the
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mall. You know, like at some point in the mall a movie,
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they're going to the mall, you know, like in the eighties. So
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I think that it's I think it's a bit of both everything that we said
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right there. I think it's a bit of the writer's influence along with the
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characters influence and the writers thus influencing the character and being well, you know,
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I like the eighties, so you know, she gonna like the eighties
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two, right, yeah, And I like the walkman, so she's gonna
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have a walkman now, so you know that type of thing. And I
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thought it was funny, Ben because you talked about them being two thousands girls,
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and also they weren't two thousand girls, No, they were. They
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were because storm girls, storms not storm. Excuse me. Riley said that
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she was she was going to turn seventeen next month, quote unquote, which
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means she wasn't even alive when this ship and neither right, neither was is
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La because she's worth fifteen or whatever. So so um, but to that
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point, like I said, the stuff that they're that they're being taught is
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from people who were around in the two thousands, right, and so they
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would have that recollection. I assumingly that's the adults, like the true adults.
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Adults would have the recollection. And then um, but at the point
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I was trying to make the fact when they were looking through the pun book
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and they read the part about the screen shot, right the point where they
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were like, you know what, what is it? Why was a computer
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drunk? Because it had it took a screenshot? And they both said,
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well, I don't know what a screenshot is. And that's funny as fuck,
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right, like it's just from a timely perspective, from a weirded error
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perspective, like a weird our error perspective, Like it's just very interesting.
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So I don't know. And then yeah, I remember Facebook wasn't invented in
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this world, So that tells you, you know, what's Facebook out?
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No? Facebook was out? No, No, it wasn't someone someone did
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happen in two thousand. Oh, it wasn't out to colleges like that.
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No, not like that. That shit was a rap. I mean when
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I say colleges. I meant like widespread, like maybe only maybe only Marks
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College as somebody else had it. Yeah, maybe I think it debuted that
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yucks. Yeah college, oh wow yeah. And so you know my space
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was around m black Planet was it was there not for not for but not
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The city is an angel fire. Yes, none of that BBS or the
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or the or even before that, the bulletin board bb BBS, yeah,
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bulletin board system. Yeah, AOL ten three hours, you got mail three
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hours. You saying like stacks of the CDs, but you know that that
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does. But that's, like you said, I think it's also it's particularly
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the writer and I don't know again, I don't know if this is in
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the game, if all that eighties influences in the game. Right to your
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point, this is just what the because that's what the writers like. But
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it's like, for all that, why didn't they have like disc man,
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Like, that's what I'm saying. But then again, CDs can scratch that
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wild easy and wild easy, whereas I had presume a cassette, well last
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tape tape will survive unless like we gets cooked, you know, or too
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cold. But I'm like, I want to like it hasn't. There's like
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a like magnetic feels all over the plays, Like, I don't know,
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it's so many ways that shit could just go wrong with all like times of
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all types of like solid media, So I don't know. Yeah, no,
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all that should degrades, you know, and everything like that tape snap
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easily everything, you know, So but you can also repair whatever, you
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know. Yeah, Like I say, it's definitely an influence of everyone you
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know on this thing that made to what it was. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, but I do agree with you, and I'll get into that later.
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I just wanted my last thing I wanted to say about the stuff I
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liked about that. So I like the concept that they want that date It
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was really a date, but that concept of the wonders of them all.
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Yeah, and like again, the idea of these mundane things just being so
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shockingly amazing and beautiful to and it was in many ways it was beautiful.
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But the existence of these things, the things that she's only read about in
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books or heard about from other people. She said, electric stairs and then
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rints, and then Riley laugh said escalator, you know what I mean.
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Like and the way Ellie was wilding out on the fucking escalator was so funny
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to me because it was just like that truly is like if you like,
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for someone who I've never seen that before, that is a wonder of you
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know, life life. It's just like, yo, this shit's moving by
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itself and I'm I'm on and I'm just that like I could get why she
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was so high. I remember as a kid, you know, as a
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little kid going to them all and being like, oh, look at that
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ship. You know, yeah, super come on. But I remember,
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like, you know, when I first saw a big as escalator and being
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like wow, or like or the first time I saw like the moving walkway,
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you know, and I'm like, oh shit, it's like the fucking
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Jetsons and some shit, you know, like this shit crazy. But now,
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like like it said, you see that now you're like whatever, you
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know what I mean, it ain't it ain't ship, but it's just that's
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what's the That's just part was about this episode. Yeah, that cute story
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and even for me, and like I've heard, I didn't notice, but
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I heard that some people on the internet were kind of upset about Bella Ramsey's
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casting or and or acting in the first few episodes. Yeah, and I
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didn't, you know, loving acting. That's what I don't know. You
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know, look, I think it's because they played the game, and you
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know, Ellie is different whatever. I'm not sure. I haven't played the
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game, so I don't get it. But I just love Bella's a lot
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of little little moments she's had throughout the series, Like I saw this online
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afterwards, and this is a rough moment. But like when Henry, you
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know, when they when he shoots himself, she doesn't scream like no or
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anything. It's just like this sort of like oh yeah, you know yeah,
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And it's just that's you know, that's an ill last choice as an
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actor to makee that and her reaction to the Arcade, because I like that.
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That is a magical Yes, as a kid who grew up like I
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mean, I was in love with Arcade, y'all, Like that was my
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life. Gambling for kids, Oh my god, And it sounds and chigs
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in your head, you know what I mean, like fully addicted, fam
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I want to found twenty dollars on the floor in the mall and immediately went
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to the Arcade and burned that ship down, Like you what I burned that.
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I didn't tell my parents nothing. I remember they were sending McDonalds.
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I was like, I found I saw that on the ground, like what
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I was like, yo, mom, I'll be spastic my golden ticket boy,
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like really fucking walk out here. And I like how they played Mortal
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Kombat. Riley played Melina. I told y'all about Mortal Kombat too. That
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to me is still like my favorite one. So when they actually showed it
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on this one and was like a second time, Mortal Koma came up because
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and it was Mortal Kombat too before and she told him about Molina the callback
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because her girlfriend was yeah, yeah, like like there's a lot of cold
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callbacks in this episode as well as the joyous ones, because remember this is
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the moment that she told Joel about when she's like, I've already done you
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know things. This is that moment her, you know, having the presumably
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end Riley is you know, I mean we clearly she's alive. Riley isn't
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you know, Riley ain't got the juice and her things like that, So
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um damn man, well let me let me finish off on a good note
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anyway, just again like these Wonders of the World. And then the que
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carousel ride and just like, like you said, the whole dragon, but
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the whole touching goal and you know, should I? Should I not kiss
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her? Type of thing like that. That was still a cute story.
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And she was like, oh, you know when when Riley was leaning on
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her that they would took the picture and Ellie was like, all right,
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you can get off of me now, you know. And Riley was just
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like, oh, you know, like she wanted to be closer to her,
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like all that tentative you know, I'll should that I'd be close to
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them? Should not notch and I touched him? Should I? Like?
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Should I put myself out there and be vulnerable? I thought that was really
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cute. I love when Ellie tells her to turn around when she's changing and
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she's like, you're still on that right and you can. And Ellie doesn't
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realize that Riley likes her in that way that you know she likes Riley and
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you know it's and also even if she did, she's probably just too nervous
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to be undressing in front of her because that is her crush, you know,
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Yeah, yeah, she's just too nervous. But like it's clear that
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they both liked each other. Yeah, in that way. It just didn't
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know how to go about and how to broach it, you know what I
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mean, Like you're you're a kid and you're having these feelings. It's like
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what do you do? How you know? Is it is the person gonna
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hate me for this or whatever? Like even when it happened, it was
23:55
clear as a mutual kids. But even Ellie was like, I'm sorry,
23:57
yeah, because she was like what if Riley isn't like that? You know,
24:02
it's like she doesn't know, you know, and neither of them know
24:06
at that point, they haven't openly distressed us. Obviously that's not something you
24:08
would be openly distressing in this world. Obviously it's you know, in some
24:14
ways it might be even more conservative than the world we live in now,
24:17
because you know, I was like, shit's tight. I'm glad you said
24:19
that, man, because I was actually wondering that, what do you it's
24:22
more conservative less conservat because being that especially they're being so young and having a
24:29
same sex relationship or trying to about to build one before it all went south.
24:34
I was just like, I wonder how people are acting in this environment
24:37
now, Like have they come to their senses and realize, Hey, that
24:40
shit's like, you know, being irrelevant, biggert about it. It's irrelevant.
24:44
It doesn't matter because we just trying to live. But we were truly
24:48
even you didn't know we were trying to live before. Hey, we're just
24:51
trying to live with you know what I'm saying. So I'm wondering at this
24:55
point does that matter in this world I was, you know, And that's
24:59
an interest question. I would I would assume that in a society like Fedra
25:03
it does, because you know, fascism usually results in a lot of control,
25:11
you know, to everything you know, So it depends on what the
25:15
moral you know, like what moral code you know in quotation marks for those
25:19
not watching is. But yeah, that would that's a very interesting question,
25:26
and I'm not sure how that's explored in the game, you know, like
25:30
people of you. Yeah, at one point that people have even talked about
25:33
how you know, um Bill and Frank Um. They probably wouldn't even have
25:37
gotten together in the real world if this hadn't happened, because Bill right is
25:42
such a right wing person that he might not have ever connected with a man
25:48
like Frank in that world. But because now it's the apocalypse and there ain't
25:53
nobody else around. They can run into each other and just like yo,
25:59
choices is limited, fam. I mean, it was clear from the from
26:03
that first encounter that a Bill never had that opportunity ever because circles were far
26:10
and few in between are very rare and the before times, I mean,
26:12
so for him to be able to be have find a partner like that,
26:17
it's crazy, you know what I'm saying. In this environment, Ye think
26:21
of the circles bills running in. Don't tread on these circles, you think,
26:25
Yeah, they ain't like homes like nah, bro, you know,
26:27
or they're acting like they're not bear it is because they definitely with a bunch
26:32
of men sitting around another circle, come on from not that circle. I
26:36
mean, you know what happens nexts alleged? Please please? Yeah, I
26:38
don't know, I just but but I did think about that, like,
26:42
oh, I wonder if if that's you know, if it's everyone cares anymore,
26:47
you know, and I would hope not, but you never know what
26:48
fetra as you mentioned and all that stuff. I never know, um,
26:52
and just people in general being assholes anyway. Yeah, Um, I can't
26:56
get Nune. So why should you One of the things you did not like
27:03
that, I mean, I did not like waiting for Riley to die because
27:11
I knew it was coming. Wait. I do want to say one more
27:14
thing that I did like that I actually loved and it's in my dislikes,
27:18
but I loved this ship. The fact that motherfucker Ellie had a fifty minute
27:21
flashback wadrolls there. It's like anime. Like it's just like anime where like
27:27
the character like something like they're in the middle of like they probably get sliced
27:32
the fuck open, but this just wilder to me. And then it pauses.
27:37
It It just pauses in time, and then you have a twenty six
27:41
minute long episode about that time when they was back in the Hot Springs,
27:45
you know what I'm saying. And it's just like, wait a minute,
27:48
Wait a minute. You can't be having on this thought process, you can.
27:55
I thought that ship would be like, you know, two seconds or
27:57
something this short. You remember the whole old fucking episode and then ran and
28:03
got and then and then it didn't even have nothing to do with what she
28:07
was thinking about. It wasn't like she went and got a tape that you
28:08
know, they batched him up or something shit. She had this flashback,
28:12
but then seconds then, I mean she had a fifty five minute long,
28:17
fifty five minute flashback, and it had nothing to do with what she needed
28:21
to do to save him. Were like, was like, was that like,
28:22
oh, I'm not abandoning him, because it was it was about I
28:26
did, and it was the overall arch of I'm not abandoning him or I'm
28:30
not gonna let him die like I had to. And I don't even want
28:33
to say let but you know what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.
28:36
I'm saying that I took it as losing someone she loves again listening and and
28:41
and and how and how Joel Jesus Joel was like, bro, Like remember
28:48
before she had her fifty five minute fastback. She Joel grabbed her hand and
28:51
was like, wo go back to the north, to the you know,
28:55
the King of the War, back to Castle Black and go meet up with
29:02
my brother. Right, you are clearly John Snow and I'm clearly are you
29:06
before the training family, Like come on, I'm herrire right. Yeah,
29:10
well but but no, he was like, go back to the north.
29:12
So you know my thing is and she thought about it. She thought about
29:15
it, and that's what five minutes. Yes, that's a part of the
29:18
black she thought about it. Okay, well it's like this. You know,
29:22
I've been through all this adventure with you and and you know, all
29:25
this life and tragging this and that, and then this is the end.
29:27
This is how I go out. So that I took it like, yo,
29:30
I already been through the story of someone that I love deeply, or
29:34
whether she knows or not, she loves Joel, you know what I'm saying,
29:37
Like someone I love deeply, like me just losing them, yeah,
29:41
or me even having to take them out, and her saying make a decision,
29:44
no, not this time. Yeah, because she look to me she
29:45
wanted to say, she's me's like she wanted to say to go leave,
29:49
and she was like, oh nah fuck that, I'm gonna try to save
29:52
him. Yeah, that episode was pretty good. Nah, I gotta come
29:55
back and save him. I'm saying, like she saw the whole joint,
30:03
like no commercials yo, not a buffer, insight, nothing, no pause,
30:11
they didn't come back to her nothing. It was like, holy fifty
30:15
five minutes. So I actually really enjoyed that. It was hilarious to me,
30:19
and especially now I know that happens like all the time in anime because
30:22
I'm used to like the martial arts where they do that. They would do
30:26
that in martial arts movies a lot too as well. I dude about to
30:27
get his head bustled? Are you about to get chopped? The fun down?
30:30
And then you get a thirty five minute ex position on why butterflies are
30:36
the key to life, and it's like all right, now I'm ready.
30:37
It's like, wait a minute. I like the ones in the karate movies
30:41
where they are about to get bust open, and then they would come back
30:44
to show you how to dude to train to bust you open, and then
30:49
and then when they done back to like by yeah, yeah, yeah,
30:53
it's like, Okay, that's why he's so powerful. Yeah, that's that's
30:57
why one bunch man worked like that, because he's been doing pushups every day,
31:02
honey, every single Yeah. I think the only thing I did not
31:06
like was just how I did. Teenagers aren't annoying and to me, like
31:10
just doing wild, reckless shit and like every time and again that undercurrent of
31:15
danger. For me, I was just like, why the fuck are y'all
31:17
jumping on the goddamn countertop. It's made a glass. You could fall through
31:22
and cut your shit up. That's all I kept thinking of. And I
31:23
guess that's me like like acting like a mom at that point. But I
31:26
was just like, y'all hurt yourselves. Why the fuck y'all being so like
31:30
like when they and you know, I have my headphones on so everything and
31:33
I have you know, these are my podcast headphones, so this is real
31:36
good sound quality. And when they first went into the mall and they jumped
31:38
down on top of the fucking metal box, I was yelling. I said,
31:41
what the fuck is y'all problem? It's too goddamn loud. Get the
31:45
fuck off my lawn. I was just fucking screaming like an old man yells
31:49
at cloud Like. I was just like, y'all too loud, y'all,
31:52
don't give a shit about y'all safety. Meanwhile, they just on a goddamn
31:56
date. Well, do remember that, you know he was in their crafting
32:00
bombs, so Jordi is obviously she'd been in and out of that bit,
32:04
right. So once I saw that she lived it, I thought it was
32:07
just some like, you know, she found some cool shit, and was
32:08
like, I don't even say my girlfriend here, nah, like that's her
32:13
house, and she was just letting her know, hey, you know,
32:15
I was setting it up for you in here. And once again though,
32:19
like why would you not clean that whole out? Like she thought she didn't.
32:24
She just didn't want to go very much of a mistake. So that's
32:29
the only thing, you know, And and just the dragging of things,
32:31
you know, I'm just like, all right, y'all, can y'all just
32:34
kiss and let's be done with it, like come on, come on,
32:37
come on, come on, come on. But I mean, yeah,
32:45
you're right. At first I was hating on this episode, but a lot
32:47
of really safe. I thought it was cute. Yeah, I can't hate,
32:51
like when they put the mashstorm because I was like, oh, they
32:53
put the mashstorm and now they can really beat themselves. Oh yeah, some
33:00
stuff like that. I was like, oh, this is ray cute,
33:02
you know, and Storm sells it so well and Bella sells it so well.
33:06
Yeah. Yeah, like they're innocence, you know, everything about it.
33:09
They were. So that was the part when I said, well that's
33:12
really what it was. When I said teenagers are annoying and I just remembered
33:15
the reasoning. I was like, because the snarky is like how they both
33:17
speak to each other's snark snark snark star start snark snark stars. And I'm
33:22
like, Nigga, can y'all just speak fucking English and tell you each other
33:24
and love each other and kiss each other and be done, Like, just
33:28
tell the truth, tell the truth. But it's like, Yo, they're
33:30
young, they're they're trying to get there, and they're trying time to get
33:32
there so much time. People don't tell the truth when they're ff and grown,
33:37
Like, come on, now, that's facts, that's facts, you
33:38
know. Yeah, you all joke joke joke snark snark snarking. I'm like,
33:43
yep, nigga, y'all are in love with each other, right right,
33:47
Star Stark. So so what happens next? Man? Like you said?
33:52
After after the the exsistential flashback, she runs up. She finds some
33:57
needle and thread and start sewing, sewing Joel back up, sitting there standing
34:02
in there like it was fair the ship like Joe Diet and she's just sitting
34:06
there like having a flash man for fifty. So she sews Joel back up
34:12
presumably Joe will be okay enough to at least get to the next spot.
34:15
Wait to have a question, how the fuck did she learn the fatalities fail?
34:20
How oh they were they were playing for a good long time, at
34:22
least an hour that no, no, she no, no, no,
34:24
she knew how been before? How Riley body lives there, she's been playing
34:30
with it. Anyone figure out them without like I guess, oh, man,
34:34
it's just playing. It's just It's just And also I think on a
34:37
lot of the old Arcid cabinets a lot of times they have like the legend
34:40
on the corner that shows you, like the different move sets, like I
34:44
know street Fighter cabinets they would have that. Yeah, like how to do?
34:47
They never have fatality. That's like even when those games were out,
34:52
I used to wonder how the people were finding these things. Doctor. People
34:53
would tell me, oh, you'll find well no online this before it was
34:59
like people then gaming magazines, Yeah, gaming magazines definitely, yes, but
35:04
like people just know them since you know, they won that ship was out,
35:07
But that's what they was reading the magazines letting up to it. And
35:09
also it's like what you're saying is also them duce with me there and playing
35:14
for hours until they figured it out one way or together, you know,
35:16
tap that forward and it's all patterns like find it the first time, then
35:21
you know how to initiate it and like you know, up up, down
35:24
down, then it's punch or up down down, then it's kick and then
35:28
they all do something different, right, So yeah, so eventually you're going
35:30
to figure it out and when you got unlimited quarters, you're gonna sit there.
35:32
Yeah fuck yeah yeah yeah yeah, but I just I like that.
35:36
I thought it was thought It was cute day the whole. Yeah, it
35:40
was very thoughtful. It was thoughtful that Okay, moment was so good for
35:45
me, like when she like like her acting when she was like this the
35:47
most beautiful thing I've ever seen was because I just, like I said,
35:51
I felt that. Yeah yeah yeah, So Ben back to my my my
35:54
statement is Joel making it. He's he's trying to patch this man up,
35:59
right obviously, how long though, is it he's gonna get sept sept what
36:01
was it? Septis septic septic yeaceptic poisoning and something like that. Yeah,
36:07
like you on the medicasion and all this other stuff, Joel makes it to
36:12
next season, like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Like
36:17
I know that Joel does not make it through all. You know, it
36:22
ain't the last of us for Joel, you know, I know that.
36:24
You know, I know it's about Ellie overall. I don't know when it
36:28
happens for Joel, but I know the joy with us forever. And you
36:32
know what a twist would be Joel make not making it at some point before
36:37
people from the game, like two episodes before the end of this season,
36:42
because there's only two episodes last this is episode. Oh but the classic HBO
36:45
move is to murder you know, the big character in the one before and
36:47
then set up the next season. That used to be their classic move.
36:52
So you know, like this, the next episode would be the like Game
36:55
of Throne, Sopranos despect all them would always do. That would be the
36:59
wire. It's like the episode before the last episode. Yeah, that's the
37:04
big one, and then the finale is just setting you up, you know,
37:07
recovering from that and then setting you up for the next season. Ye.
37:12
So uh that's not insecure ended. Yeah, Joel's not dying in this
37:16
episode. Have you already already took his bad one? You know it had
37:21
to be take the bad one and die right there. It's not like,
37:22
but but what are we seeing next? We saw Joel, like we saw
37:25
that the lone tier come out of his eyes and he's finally like, Yo,
37:30
this is my this is my new daughter. And Karnate I don't know,
37:31
like, yeah, where is he? I mean he's been there,
37:34
he's been in, you know, like he's been accepted that he loves this
37:38
girl. You know, they're like closer to each other I think now than
37:45
they ever have been, because it's been at least four months now. Yeah,
37:49
and they're closer to each other on their respective path because they've definitely been
37:54
like wavering. You know, it's like Ellie gets too hard, Joel gets
38:00
too hard. You know, Joel gets too solved, Ellie gets too hard.
38:02
You know. Whatever, however, it's gone. But I think both
38:05
of them are reaching a happy medium now where they're both accepting that love is
38:09
something that can still happen in this world, et cetera. Yeah, Okay,
38:15
cool, Yeah, I think that's I think that's been an interesting journey,
38:17
you know, especially as far as writing, because I didn't expect that.
38:20
I expected them to be like two trains crossing in the midst and never
38:24
see each other again? You know? Yeah that two ships, not two
38:30
trains. There two trains, you know that? Jesus? Okay? So
38:37
uh what else? Anything else you wanted to say about this episode? Or
38:42
did you think we covered everything? Hmm, let's see anything else to say
38:46
about this episode? I mean not much? Right, this feels kind of
38:52
short this week. But I guess that's about it because I don't really have
38:57
much more to say. It was. You know, it's a very cute
38:59
little flashback story. Well done. Um whatever happened to Like, I guess
39:06
we never find out what happened to Shorty who you know she bust that jaw
39:08
on earlier an episode, you know the eye Jamie who Shorty gave it the
39:14
eye Jamie from like, oh yeah wait what Shorty the shorty who's stole away?
39:21
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah she probably did. Who Well,
39:24
dude, you know my man was talking Quan was talking about her, like
39:28
and shit is kind of an asshole? Man? Come on, that is
39:31
a realist qualms, Like look, that's why he damn you think Storm is
39:35
ship guard? That that's what you think of Storm? Fam you think of
39:38
Riley? No, I just you guard the ship. Listen. Whether he's
39:43
an asshoe or not, I don't think it matters. It's he's a realist
39:46
as far as that little piece I could tell. And I don't know if
39:50
he's in charge. Was he in charge of the assignments or was it just
39:52
that for you know, I don't think so. Fam Farm was over there
39:59
like, yo, make these choices. I got you, shorty, I'm
40:01
gonna make you an officer over here. He's gonna be like me. Well,
40:05
that's also watched Riley was like when when when Ellie was like, we
40:08
could be in charge, while he was like, no, you can be
40:10
in you know they don't you think it's a white coalanzastion. I'm not saying
40:17
that changes the same thing. I'm just saying, like, okay, man,
40:22
I really don't want to think racism survived in this apocalypse once again?
40:25
Is that the you can't roaches and racism. Look, the thing is because
40:30
racism would not have had to survive, you know, because it would have
40:35
been there, Like why would it have grown away? People would have been
40:37
racist and they would have been a lot. Right. So for the same
40:40
time, I feel like bigotry against people who who die hard it's not.
40:47
It's inconsequential me be it's to the fact that this other thing is infected.
40:54
Fam the same people who would get that right now would get that. Then
40:59
that's the problems it would you know, it wouldn't change it because if you
41:02
were that racist, you'd be like fuck it. Because right now you can
41:05
die from anything. It don't matter that it doesn't affect it out there.
41:07
You can just take an hell from anything. But people are still raid.
41:10
But it's not, I mean, and it's so funny because technically it is
41:13
always immediate danger, but notlge it's this immediate danger. It's it's just like
41:17
this, but people don't people don't want you mean, the last of us
41:23
is right now where we live is really just like the last of us.
41:27
No, no, it's not just like the last of us. That's not
41:30
it doesn't have to be. But at the same time, people die every
41:32
day, be you know, and it doesn't matter. You know, people
41:37
are still racist every day. Be that. You know, that changes nothing,
41:44
you know, And in some places of the war of the world right
41:46
now it's worse than anything the last of last of us and people are racist
41:52
and everything else there too, you know, because some parts of the world
41:57
right now are living on the constant bombing and war and death, everything,
42:00
famine, all kinds of shit, and people are still terrible there, you
42:04
know, Yeah it is. It is pretty sad. It's trying to you
42:07
know, disheartening. That's why I also enjoyed the hopefulness of it of this
42:13
episode to see you know, black girl or a white girl you know,
42:16
living out there love. You know, it's best they can in the midst
42:20
of all this. And then you know why, I'm I mean, so
42:27
more heartache and heartbreak coming. This is was this what I predict for the
42:30
last two episodes, the red of the season, and of course, as
42:34
we know, season two is how already has already been green lent, so
42:37
we'll get to see or get some type of insight hopefully about what that's gonna
42:40
be all like and yeah, sad times. Yeah. I have to say
42:45
though, like when I finished this episode once again, I was like,
42:49
yeah, I'm sick of this show. Was it okay? Okay? But
42:53
after reviewing it with you, because I enjoyed doing this show so much,
42:57
I'm like, oh, you know, I'll do another episode. You know,
43:00
It's like I think I'm softening you from like just being annoyed about it.
43:06
I think the show is very well done. But once again, it's
43:08
I just haven't seen I don't want to say anything I haven't seen before,
43:15
even though a lot of it I really haven't seen I have seen before,
43:16
so not really much new about it. It's more so that it's like in
43:21
this day and age, I really avoid a lot of entertainment that I feel,
43:28
yeah, depressing or just doesn't do anything for me. I'm not really
43:30
like being enlightened or even learning a different cultural viewpoint or anything like that,
43:37
you know, or it does or even so, like I just like more
43:40
things to make, you know, energize me and make me feel like,
43:46
yeah, that's the way things should go, you know. And well,
43:51
but it's nothing else been the Bill and Frank episode. Nothing compared to that,
43:55
Like, but this series, nothing but this series. Nothing for the
44:00
series, it's one of the best. Yeah, it's one of the It's
44:01
one of the best episodes of television I've seen this year. I mean it's
44:05
been a you know, a very short year, but it's also one of
44:07
the best episodes of television I think I'll see all year. And I really
44:09
enjoyed this episode as well. Overall, it's funny. I really came around
44:14
as we reviewed it because I'm like all that cuteness, because cuteness and hope
44:17
and life is something that I think we don't see enough of in television,
44:21
you know, in general. So that really, you know, something that
44:23
I really like to see is like love and being expressed and people being in
44:28
love and seeing that on screen. I just don't think we see enough of.
44:32
So that was really nice. Yeah, no, I really, you
44:37
know, I think love will save the world, you know, and so
44:38
absolutely I think it needs to be seen more often. Yeah. Man,
44:42
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of that. And and I always say this, and I mean this with
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the bottom of my heart. Thank you, thank you, thank you so
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much for your love support. It means everything to us. It means everything
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to the success of the things we do. And thank you, Thank you.
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Thank you to everyone who's always sharing us. Okay, share share and
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at people. Tell them anytime, anytime people be doing the tweets or whatever
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it. Word up because I saw somebody leave a YouTube comment where they said,
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this is like one of the most informative and funny podcasts and it should
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have way more views and listen. So I mean, we're doing great,
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but we always need more, and especially on the YouTube, to make sure
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know about us, you know, don't keep it to yourself, Let your
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friends, let your family know about it. Let's see what else before we
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get out of here. Will be at the Smithsonian October nineteen, twenty twenty
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three, the National Museum Museum of African American History and Culture. We will
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be there the n M A A H yes, yeah, the h N
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I C H A yeah will be the h N I C s will be
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at the yeah you get the picture, Smithsonian October nineteenth. That's right,
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we are at the Smithsonian talking afro futurism. The future is black, you
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know what I mean? And all kinds of other things. Joe. Um,
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I was watching uh Fleishmanism Trouble, and at one point, this woman
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says, you think they would let us wear those shirts? The future is
48:44
female if the future is ever coming. I was like, oh, damn,
48:49
that's that's true. Yeah, so the black is right now that you
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know what I mean? Right now, we're here. Now, we're gonna
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be here, and that's where we're gonna be talking about. We're gonna be
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here forever. Shout out to Kari's one. So yeah, that's what we're
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gonna be talking about. October nineteen, twenty twenty three. I'm pretty sure
49:07
that's homecoming hu, you know, weekend, So we're gonna be little,
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I'm gonna be doing some parties. It's gonna be a lot of things.
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But by then, god willing, I'll be able to announce something that I
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showed Time towna earlier tonight that is absolutely mind blowing and it's also afro futuristic
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to the fullest glue. Oh my gosh, damn. Um, it's a
49:31
lot of things blowing all right now. Like top down and said thank you
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all so much for the support man. This last year has been game changing,
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Like the support at feill nerds dot com. And when we dropped these
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new designs, I know y'all gonna be eating them up. But that's been
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so much, you know, like y'all listening to this show, y'all telling
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the world like we got you know, finally got some ads. Things are
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just moving in the background. All kinds of things are happening. Let's if
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we talked about the Smithsonian. Oh yeah, when you listen to this episode,
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it's gonna be my birthday. It's Pie Sea season February twenty seventh.
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That's right. We end the building, make some noise. Happy birthday,
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Ben, I mean