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- 0:00Speaker 1: You literally should be up by 50 points.
- 0:01Speaker 2: So I would tell you the race in Texas is
- 0:04Speaker 2: extremely close. But none of these races are four and
- 0:07Speaker 2: five and seven points.
- 0:09Speaker 3: We have a huge risk here of losing a state.
- 0:12Speaker 3: And once we lose that state, we lose the country.
- 0:15Speaker 3: He's a con man. James Tallarico, there's no other way
- 0:19Speaker 3: to put it. He's a con man.
- 0:25Speaker 1: I've been railing on these polls for the midterms for
- 0:27Speaker 1: just about three or four months now because these polls
- 0:30Speaker 1: come out. I think some are suppression polls. I think
- 0:32Speaker 1: some have such a small sample size. It's just trying
- 0:34Speaker 1: to push you this way or that way. I don't
- 0:37Speaker 1: trust them, but a guy who knows a whole lot
- 0:39Speaker 1: about them, and he's also got a new book out.
- 0:40Speaker 1: His name is Matt Towery, co-founder and chairman of Inside Advantage,
- 0:43Speaker 1: national pollster, political analyst, attorney, and former Georgia state representative.
- 0:47Speaker 1: InsiderAdvantage.com is his website. Matt, how are you? Good to
- 0:51Speaker 1: see you.
- 0:51Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Joe. Thanks for having me on.
- 0:53Speaker 1: It's an absolute pleasure. The book is called The Honoring
- 0:56Speaker 1: of Ignorance, The Seven Mirages, Destroying America. It's a 2026
- 1:00Speaker 1: political book. It's out now. It's only been out for
- 1:03Speaker 1: about two weeks, so I appreciate you coming on to
- 1:05Speaker 1: talk about it. Let's get into what we're seeing in
- 1:08Speaker 1: these polls. I don't believe them, Matt. I just don't.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I don't believe that Gina Hinojosa here in Texas is really...
- 1:15Speaker 1: tied with Greg Abbott. I don't believe that. Now, I
- 1:17Speaker 1: want people to go out and vote and make sure
- 1:19Speaker 1: that if they're right, you know, then we could still
- 1:20Speaker 1: bring in the win. I don't believe that Tallarico is
- 1:23Speaker 1: smoking Paxton. I don't believe that El Sayed is doing
- 1:26Speaker 1: that well against Rogers. But I mean, maybe you can
- 1:28Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Should I believe these polls
- 1:31Speaker 1: that I'm seeing, Matt? What is it that I should
- 1:32Speaker 1: be looking for in these numbers that will tell me
- 1:35Speaker 1: the actual truth?
- 1:36Speaker 2: Well, so the honoring of ignorance is about how the
- 1:40Speaker 2: media spends stories and it goes through all the different
- 1:45Speaker 2: aspects of Trump's first presidency and second presidency and shows
- 1:49Speaker 2: how by omission or by contortion, the mainstream legacy media
- 1:56Speaker 2: creates a myth, a mirage. Then the pollsters take it
- 2:00Speaker 2: and run with it. And then the fact checkers come
- 2:02Speaker 2: behind and say, oh, the facts are all correct. Joe,
- 2:05Speaker 2: you're not you're not wrong. We've had a lot of
- 2:08Speaker 2: polling for a long period of time that just said
- 2:10Speaker 2: the Republicans were going to get smoked. And then about
- 2:13Speaker 2: two or three weeks ago, we started having some polling showing, oh,
- 2:16Speaker 2: these races are getting closer.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Yes.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Now, I'm not going to kid you. Right now, early
- 2:22Speaker 2: voting is not going the Republicans way around the country.
- 2:25Speaker 2: And so it's going to take a major Republican voter
- 2:30Speaker 2: turnout on Election Day for these close races to become wins.
- 2:34Speaker 2: It can happen. But Republicans have got to get their
- 2:38Speaker 2: second win and turn out big on Election Day because
- 2:42Speaker 2: they They're turning out at about 2022 levels, which is great.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:46Speaker 2: But in some states, we have the Democrats turning out
- 2:49Speaker 2: at 2024 levels. So that's got to change. And it
- 2:53Speaker 2: will change if the Republicans decide to get off their
- 2:56Speaker 2: rear ends and go vote and quit, you know, being
- 2:58Speaker 2: sore losers or upset because their guy isn't the nominee
- 3:03Speaker 2: or whatever reason they have. It's time for everybody to
- 3:06Speaker 2: get together and get out.
- 3:09Speaker 1: He is the nominee for U.S. Senate out of the
- 3:12Speaker 1: great state of Texas. He's the Republican. It's Ken Paxton. Ken,
- 3:15Speaker 1: how are you? Good to have you on today.
- 3:18Speaker 3: I am doing great. Obviously, today is the last day
- 3:21Speaker 3: of early voting until 7 p.m. tonight. I'm in Houston
- 3:23Speaker 3: trying to get the vote out. We just did a
- 3:24Speaker 3: rally in Houston. We're headed over to Pearland to do
- 3:27Speaker 3: one over there. And, of course, yesterday we were in
- 3:29Speaker 3: Beaumont in the evening, and we were in Weatherford with
- 3:32Speaker 3: the vice president. Had a great day. He did a
- 3:34Speaker 3: great job and got a lot of people out. I
- 3:36Speaker 3: think they told me over 4,000 people there, and it
- 3:38Speaker 3: was totally packed.
- 3:39Speaker 1: That's awesome. Now, generally speaking, as somebody who's conservative, I
- 3:41Speaker 1: don't vote early. I normally vote on Election Day, but
- 3:44Speaker 1: this year I voted early. I think a lot of
- 3:46Speaker 1: other people are voting early as well. This should be
- 3:48Speaker 1: a no-brainer, Ken. And I'm not trying to sound like
- 3:51Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton in 2016, whatever it was, where she said,
- 3:55Speaker 1: why aren't we up by 50 points? You literally should
- 3:57Speaker 1: be up by 50 points. You've got a guy that
- 3:59Speaker 1: you're running against that is the complete opposite of every
- 4:03Speaker 1: value I think Texans have. And I'm not even I'm
- 4:07Speaker 1: not being using hyperbole. This guy is against oil and gas.
- 4:11Speaker 1: This guy is for transitioning children. This guy seems to
- 4:14Speaker 1: have some obsession with with trans children. He keeps on
- 4:17Speaker 1: talking about them. This guy wants to open the border.
- 4:20Speaker 1: He wants to put a welcome mat out there. He
- 4:22Speaker 1: would like to raise taxes in Texas. Yet he's lied
- 4:25Speaker 1: about every stance he really has. And somehow it's working.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Do you have any idea why people are falling for
- 4:31Speaker 1: this lie that or the constant lies that Tallarico is
- 4:33Speaker 1: putting out there?
- 4:35Speaker 3: Yeah, because he has a fairly undistinguished history in the
- 4:40Speaker 3: Texas House. He didn't get anything done in eight years.
- 4:42Speaker 3: He had these radical views, as you said. He voted
- 4:45Speaker 3: for trains and kids and said it was abusive for
- 4:47Speaker 3: parents to stop that. He voted for boys and girls
- 4:49Speaker 3: sports twice. He voted for state income tax. He tried
- 4:52Speaker 3: to pass a bill, as you said, to basically destroy
- 4:55Speaker 3: the oil and gas industry. And he said that capitalism
- 4:57Speaker 3: is oppressive and it should be dismantled. So those are
- 5:00Speaker 3: just a few of the things, as you suggested. There
- 5:02Speaker 3: were others, and there are many more But I think
- 5:04Speaker 3: it's because people don't know. He was a state rep.
- 5:06Speaker 3: Nobody really covered him. Nobody knew who he was. He
- 5:08Speaker 3: wasn't like a remarkable state rep or accomplished person in
- 5:13Speaker 3: the Texas House. So he runs and nobody knows his record.
- 5:15Speaker 3: So with all the money coming in from California, those
- 5:18Speaker 3: are the people supporting him, California, New York, and Chicago.
- 5:21Speaker 3: They are out there not talking about his voting record
- 5:24Speaker 3: or what he believes. They have switched all his positions
- 5:26Speaker 3: because they know if he tells the truth about what
- 5:29Speaker 3: he believes or he tells people the truth about what
- 5:31Speaker 3: I've done, Then they lose. And so not only is
- 5:34Speaker 3: he lying about all his positions, he's adopted all of mine.
- 5:37Speaker 3: But then he goes out and runs out saying, I
- 5:39Speaker 3: let a child predator out, complete life. He says that
- 5:43Speaker 3: I'm for higher taxes, complete lie, against everything I've ever
- 5:46Speaker 3: voted for. So he gets away with it because people
- 5:48Speaker 3: don't know the voting record of him or me, and
- 5:51Speaker 3: he just makes it up. And he's hoping that his
- 5:53Speaker 3: lies will not be caught, and he'll get through enough votes,
- 5:56Speaker 3: convince enough people that he is something that he's not.
- 6:00Speaker 3: And that's very deceptive, and that's what we're facing.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Let me throw something out at you yesterday that I
- 6:08Speaker 1: tried to debunk yesterday on my show, and I think
- 6:11Speaker 1: that you'll be able to probably get into this even
- 6:13Speaker 1: more than I did. Here in Texas, we don't know
- 6:16Speaker 1: if a Democrat is voting or a Republican is voting
- 6:18Speaker 1: in early voting. We just don't know. We know that
- 6:20Speaker 1: the numbers are way up. I mean, they're way up
- 6:22Speaker 1: on both Republican and Democrat areas, but we simply don't
- 6:25Speaker 1: know whether it's a Democrat or a Republican pressing those
- 6:28Speaker 1: buttons and making that vote. We'll find out on election day.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Maybe in other states they're tracking it, but In this state,
- 6:33Speaker 1: they don't. I live in Texas. So what I said
- 6:36Speaker 1: yesterday was the way they're extrapolating that is they're saying
- 6:39Speaker 1: in the areas that voted majority Harris in 24, we're
- 6:44Speaker 1: seeing a 70% increase. In the areas that voted for
- 6:47Speaker 1: Trump in 2024, we're seeing a 50% increase. They really
- 6:50Speaker 1: don't know who's voting. But even that, I think, is
- 6:53Speaker 1: tricky because that tells the Republicans, the Democrats are out voting,
- 6:56Speaker 1: you don't worry about it, or tells the Democrats, you're
- 6:58Speaker 1: voting in massive numbers, you don't have to worry about it.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Can they really give us numbers, Matt, that make sense,
- 7:04Speaker 1: that can tell me in Texas or other states that
- 7:06Speaker 1: don't count R's or D's yet, what's really going on?
- 7:10Speaker 2: Well, they're not really being honest because we are able
- 7:13Speaker 2: to track votes. We do it by going to a
- 7:16Speaker 2: primary vote. and following that ballot to see where they're
- 7:19Speaker 2: voting in the general. So it's not impossible to do.
- 7:22Speaker 2: The modeling that they're giving you, Joe, is one that
- 7:26Speaker 2: assumes that if you live in a certain zip code
- 7:28Speaker 2: or area of Texas, that based on their concept of
- 7:32Speaker 2: what you are, your age, your race, where you live,
- 7:35Speaker 2: that you're naturally voting Democrat or Republican. That's incorrect. So
- 7:40Speaker 2: I would tell you the race in Texas is extremely close.
- 7:44Speaker 2: And I would tell you that if Republicans turn out
- 7:48Speaker 2: in presidential year numbers on Election Day, and I don't
- 7:52Speaker 2: know how much early voting is still left in Texas.
- 7:55Speaker 2: I'm not polling that this week, I think.
- 7:56Speaker 1: I think two more days. It goes through Friday.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Two more days. They've either got to vote early and
- 8:01Speaker 2: really bring these numbers up, or they've got to turn
- 8:03Speaker 2: out on Election Day. As we know, Republicans tend to
- 8:06Speaker 2: turn out on Election Day. The Democrats try to store
- 8:09Speaker 2: all their votes ahead of time. They've done a pretty
- 8:11Speaker 2: good job of it around the country. So it's a
- 8:14Speaker 2: catch up on the part of the Republicans, but it's
- 8:15Speaker 2: not insurmountable. But none of these races are four and
- 8:19Speaker 2: five and seven points. Tallarico is not leading by something
- 8:22Speaker 2: like that. Now, Ken Paxton, Ken Paxton has had to
- 8:26Speaker 2: fight his way back up. And on top of that,
- 8:29Speaker 2: he's got to deal with Cornyn and his crowd. who
- 8:31Speaker 2: are trying to basically sub rows and say, oh, don't
- 8:33Speaker 2: vote for this guy, which never helps. Republicans need to
- 8:36Speaker 2: close ranks like the Democrats do. They don't care if
- 8:39Speaker 2: you're a socialist. They don't care what you are. They
- 8:42Speaker 2: just want you to be a Democrat so they can
- 8:44Speaker 2: have power. Republicans have to slice and dice and, oh,
- 8:48Speaker 2: I don't like this person. I don't like the way
- 8:50Speaker 2: he talks. If they don't get over that, no, we
- 8:52Speaker 2: won't win. But if they get over it, then you'll
- 8:54Speaker 2: see a Democratic defeat and you'll see a Republican senator
- 8:57Speaker 2: from Texas.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, the best attorney general in
- 9:03Speaker 1: the country, running for U.S. Senate now, Republican out of
- 9:05Speaker 1: the great state of Texas. Ken, nine times this guy
- 9:08Speaker 1: had an opportunity to vote to close the border, to
- 9:11Speaker 1: in the face of the Biden administration's open border, he
- 9:14Speaker 1: had the ability as a rep here in Texas to
- 9:17Speaker 1: vote to close the border, and nine times he didn't
- 9:19Speaker 1: do it. And now he's on the campaign trail. As
- 9:22Speaker 1: I said, I started this out by the fact that
- 9:24Speaker 1: he's a liar. Now he's saying he actually fought the
- 9:27Speaker 1: Biden administration on the border. What's the truth here?
- 9:31Speaker 3: He's a con man. James Tallarico, there's no other way
- 9:34Speaker 3: to put it. He's a con man. He absolutely voted
- 9:37Speaker 3: against every border bill that we had, including helping our
- 9:40Speaker 3: local law enforcement, helping the sheriffs, helping work with the
- 9:43Speaker 3: federal government, cross border, like between states. He voted against
- 9:48Speaker 3: detention centers. He voted against the wall. He voted against
- 9:51Speaker 3: funding anything that would have helped us. He was an
- 9:53Speaker 3: open boarder, welcomed that. That's what he said. It should
- 9:56Speaker 3: be a welcome that. He was absolutely in favor of everything.
- 9:59Speaker 3: I never heard him criticize Biden one time. And he
- 10:02Speaker 3: voted against every, as you said, every single bill that
- 10:05Speaker 3: would have protected us from the cartels. He even voted
- 10:08Speaker 3: against penalties for, for human smuggling and trafficking. He voted
- 10:12Speaker 3: against higher penalties for the, for the cartels. He is
- 10:16Speaker 3: absolutely in favor of everything about open boarders. And he's
- 10:19Speaker 3: out there lying about it just like he is every
- 10:21Speaker 3: other issue.
- 10:23Speaker 1: He's been out there telling everybody how Christian he is.
- 10:25Speaker 1: He's a Christian this and Jesus that and Christian this.
- 10:28Speaker 1: And he's been trying to attack you on your personal
- 10:31Speaker 1: life that I don't know much about. But let me
- 10:33Speaker 1: say this. The guy said God is non-binary. The guy
- 10:36Speaker 1: said that it turns out science says there are six genders,
- 10:40Speaker 1: not genders, six biological sexes, he said. This guy says
- 10:44Speaker 1: that Jesus was a socialist. This guy is out there
- 10:47Speaker 1: talking about how the conception in Mary of the baby
- 10:51Speaker 1: Jesus somehow proves that Christians are for abortion. Kenny, allegedly
- 10:57Speaker 1: he's tied with you in the polls. What am I missing? Look,
- 11:00Speaker 1: I get it. I'm a conservative guy and I like you.
- 11:02Speaker 1: I've known you for a long time. I know how
- 11:04Speaker 1: good you are as an attorney general, but I don't understand.
- 11:06Speaker 1: People are buying what he's laying down. All of this
- 11:08Speaker 1: stuff is on video. We've seen him say these things.
- 11:13Speaker 3: So there are other things, of course, you know, he
- 11:15Speaker 3: voted against 10 commandments being in our schools and said
- 11:18Speaker 3: that we were indoctrinating children, that it was anti-Christian. He
- 11:21Speaker 3: said that telling children about Christianity is like giving minors
- 11:26Speaker 3: beer who don't understand what they're doing. So this guy
- 11:29Speaker 3: has very antithetical views to Christianity. And the problem is
- 11:32Speaker 3: the mainstream media doesn't challenge them on it. They don't
- 11:34Speaker 3: bring it up. And so many of these voters, it's
- 11:38Speaker 3: really come down to shows like yours and our efforts
- 11:41Speaker 3: of spending money to educate people. So a lot of
- 11:45Speaker 3: Texans just don't know that he's lying and he's, you know, look,
- 11:48Speaker 3: it's an effective strategy because he can't win without doing it.
- 11:52Speaker 3: That's what he has to do. He has to lie
- 11:54Speaker 3: and he's willing to do it. That's why we're close
- 11:57Speaker 3: in the polls because people believe his lies about me
- 12:00Speaker 3: and his lies about himself. They're all lies. There's, I
- 12:02Speaker 3: don't think there's a single thing that he said that's true.
- 12:06Speaker 1: I've been critical of the campaign that you've run, and
- 12:09Speaker 1: it's not you. I think maybe you're getting some advice
- 12:12Speaker 1: from people that maybe you shouldn't be. I've been critical
- 12:14Speaker 1: on my show, and I want to fix it today
- 12:16Speaker 1: because I really believe that if I'm Ken Paxton, I'm
- 12:20Speaker 1: out there saying I did this, this, this, this, this, this,
- 12:22Speaker 1: and this as the attorney general for you. And unfortunately,
- 12:25Speaker 1: you've always got to react to what Tallarico is saying.
- 12:27Speaker 1: So on this interview today, I want to make sure
- 12:30Speaker 1: we clear the record for people about how great you've
- 12:32Speaker 1: been as an attorney general. If you don't mind, and
- 12:36Speaker 1: I'll do that in a second, but I want to
- 12:37Speaker 1: finish on Tallarico this way. The guy has said that
- 12:40Speaker 1: you were ducking him when it came to a debate.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Now I'm here to tell you the man disappeared from
- 12:44Speaker 1: any public in-person appearances for 13 days, Ken, and he's
- 12:48Speaker 1: still somehow tied with you allegedly in the polls. I
- 12:51Speaker 1: don't know how much I believe the polls. What do
- 12:53Speaker 1: you make of him disappearing? No in-person public appearances for
- 12:57Speaker 1: 13 full days. And he comes back like nothing happened.
- 13:02Speaker 3: I don't believe it. I mean, look, I don't think
- 13:03Speaker 3: that he was, you don't have the flu for 13
- 13:05Speaker 3: days at one. That's very unusual too, especially at his age.
- 13:09Speaker 3: And two, you don't just disappear from the face of
- 13:11Speaker 3: the earth where you don't do interviews. You don't do
- 13:14Speaker 3: any zoom calls. You don't, I mean, it doesn't make
- 13:17Speaker 3: any sense, especially when we're talking about the end of September,
- 13:19Speaker 3: beginning of October, literally a month from the campaign being over,
- 13:24Speaker 3: he just disappears for almost two weeks. They're not telling
- 13:27Speaker 3: us the truth. I don't know where he was. I
- 13:28Speaker 3: don't know if, you know, some said he was in
- 13:29Speaker 3: a mental institution. I don't know where he was. But
- 13:32Speaker 3: I do know this. They are hiding it. And this
- 13:35Speaker 3: is so the epitome of who he is. Very deceptive
- 13:39Speaker 3: and very dishonest.
- 13:40Speaker 1: I wonder if you noticed what I noticed. What happened
- 13:43Speaker 1: was somebody walked up to him after an event and
- 13:45Speaker 1: they said, who's your favorite drag queen? And he had
- 13:48Speaker 1: an answer. Ken, the guy had an answer. I couldn't
- 13:51Speaker 1: name one drag queen. I don't care to. But he
- 13:54Speaker 1: had an answer almost like had to think about it.
- 13:55Speaker 1: He had to think about all the ones that he liked.
- 13:57Speaker 1: And the one that he mentioned was his favorite right then.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Just after that, he disappears for almost two weeks. I'd
- 14:04Speaker 1: be remiss as somebody who does this for a living
- 14:05Speaker 1: if I didn't ask you. Ken Paxton, who's your favorite
- 14:07Speaker 1: drag queen?
- 14:08Speaker 3: I don't have one. I've never heard of any of them.
- 14:13Speaker 3: The only one I know of is the one he mentioned.
- 14:15Speaker 3: If he hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't know. I'd be like,
- 14:17Speaker 3: what are you talking about? I don't even know exactly
- 14:21Speaker 3: what a drag queen does, but I don't want to know.
- 14:24Speaker 1: It's so stupid it's funny, but it's not funny because
- 14:26Speaker 1: the polls are looking like they look.
- 14:29Speaker 2: The one thing I fought the Republicans for, and I
- 14:32Speaker 2: talked about this on Larry Kudlow's show yesterday. I talked
- 14:34Speaker 2: about it on Sean's show. The one thing the Republicans
- 14:37Speaker 2: don't do is they don't advertise in May and June
- 14:42Speaker 2: and tell people the good news. For example, that unemployment's
- 14:46Speaker 2: the lowest it's been since the 1960s, that people have
- 14:49Speaker 2: more disposable income, that inflation is half of what it
- 14:52Speaker 2: was under Joe Biden under his midterm. If we had
- 14:55Speaker 2: run those ads- And also an ad explaining why Iran
- 14:59Speaker 2: was necessary. I don't think we'd be even looking at
- 15:02Speaker 2: close races right now. We've got a chance.
- 15:06Speaker 1: I want to agree with you wholeheartedly because this is
- 15:09Speaker 1: a constant droning from my show with Ken Paxton, for example.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Ken Paxton might be the best attorney general we've ever
- 15:16Speaker 1: had in Texas. The things that he's done by suing
- 15:18Speaker 1: big tech, by protecting girls and women's sports, by Just
- 15:21Speaker 1: going by suing Biden and Obama combined about 130 times.
- 15:26Speaker 1: We haven't talked about it. We keep talking about Talofrico.
- 15:28Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. Let me attack James Talofrico.
- 15:31Speaker 1: And you go and give your resume, Ken. Go out
- 15:33Speaker 1: there and say what it is that we're doing. I
- 15:35Speaker 1: think you're absolutely spot on. Why do you think our
- 15:38Speaker 1: side gets sucked in to that game that the Democrats
- 15:41Speaker 1: are playing? We can ignore Al-Sayed saying, Mike Rogers has
- 15:44Speaker 1: rogered everything that Trump says. I'll attack Al-Sayed on his record. Mike,
- 15:48Speaker 1: go out there and tell people that you served in
- 15:50Speaker 1: the military, that you're an FBI guy, that you were
- 15:52Speaker 1: a U.S. representative during 9-11 and you came through for
- 15:54Speaker 1: the country. Do you agree with me that we keep
- 15:56Speaker 1: on allowing ourselves to be pulled in by them?
- 15:59Speaker 2: Joe, I'm going to tell you, since I'm retiring and
- 16:01Speaker 2: I have nothing to lose, it's money. These consultants who
- 16:05Speaker 2: run these campaigns want to stack all of their ads
- 16:10Speaker 2: at the end. when they get lowest unit rate, and
- 16:13Speaker 2: also it becomes very confusing. You can't keep up with
- 16:15Speaker 2: the money because it's just flowing everywhere. They don't want
- 16:18Speaker 2: to spend the money in May and June to get
- 16:22Speaker 2: their candidates' records out. They didn't want to spend the
- 16:25Speaker 2: money to promote what President Trump has done. He has
- 16:27Speaker 2: done fantastic things as president. The average American doesn't know
- 16:31Speaker 2: it because 75% of America gets their news from Legacy News,
- 16:35Speaker 2: and then they get it from Google News, Apple News,
- 16:37Speaker 2: Yahoo News, all who keep the president Anything positive about
- 16:42Speaker 2: him never shows up on your phone or on your
- 16:44Speaker 2: whatever you're looking at where you're such media. So they
- 16:48Speaker 2: have got to get a way to fix this, but
- 16:51Speaker 2: they got to quit being so damn greedy, to be
- 16:53Speaker 2: honest with you. The Democrats play a different game. They
- 16:56Speaker 2: don't worry about who makes the money. They want to
- 16:59Speaker 2: win first and then they divide the spoils. And until
- 17:03Speaker 2: the Republican Party decides they want to win and win consistently,
- 17:07Speaker 2: I mean, we should be running ads every week of
- 17:10Speaker 2: every Time of time period, the president serving office every week,
- 17:14Speaker 2: updating with people with the news that NBC, ABC, CBS
- 17:18Speaker 2: and others, CNN, MSNOW would not let the public see.
- 17:23Speaker 2: If we could do that, we wouldn't have the president's
- 17:25Speaker 2: opinion rate approval rating where it is. And we wouldn't
- 17:28Speaker 2: be having to fight at the last minute. These Republicans
- 17:31Speaker 2: would be blowing the doors off of these candidates because
- 17:33Speaker 2: they're terrible candidates.
- 17:35Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago, remember back in 2020 when
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- 18:40Speaker 1: back to the video. So let's get into your record
- 18:45Speaker 1: as the Attorney General. I've had you on this very program,
- 18:48Speaker 1: I'm thinking at least 50 times. If not, it might
- 18:50Speaker 1: be 100, Ken. And every single time you were suing
- 18:53Speaker 1: some gigantic tech outlet, whether it was Meta or Facebook directly,
- 18:57Speaker 1: whether it was Google, whether it was TikTok, You're always
- 19:00Speaker 1: looking out for kids, looking out for girls in their
- 19:03Speaker 1: sports and their opportunities. You sued Biden and Obama together.
- 19:08Speaker 1: I think I added this up right, 130 times. And
- 19:12Speaker 1: you were successful in most of those times. You protected
- 19:14Speaker 1: our online presence and stopped people from censoring us. I'll
- 19:20Speaker 1: be honest with you again because I like you. I
- 19:22Speaker 1: don't know that we've talked about this enough on this
- 19:24Speaker 1: campaign because you're reacting to what Tallarico does. Give my listeners,
- 19:29Speaker 1: my viewers across the nation and 16 stations right here
- 19:32Speaker 1: in Texas, just give me an overview of the job
- 19:35Speaker 1: that you've done as Attorney General. I'm not asking you
- 19:37Speaker 1: to pat yourself on the back. Just start listing off
- 19:40Speaker 1: some stuff you've done for us.
- 19:43Speaker 3: Yeah, and part of the reason I think this happened
- 19:45Speaker 3: is that the mainstream media stopped covering my stuff. And
- 19:49Speaker 3: if they did... cover it, they'd say, oh, Texas did this,
- 19:51Speaker 3: Texas did this. And then we had news outlets that
- 19:54Speaker 3: were creating trouble for me getting back on. So that's
- 19:57Speaker 3: I think that's part of the reason we've had a
- 19:58Speaker 3: harder time talking about my successes with the state of Texas.
- 20:02Speaker 3: But look, I'm very proud. It was 134 times actually
- 20:05Speaker 3: we sued Biden and Obama, and we did it because
- 20:08Speaker 3: these presidents were going beyond their constitutional authority, and we're
- 20:12Speaker 3: trying to control the country through basically edict. And that
- 20:16Speaker 3: is one of the most important things we did was
- 20:17Speaker 3: protect the Constitution and our fundamental rights. Separation of powers
- 20:21Speaker 3: between the three branches. And as you suggested also, I
- 20:24Speaker 3: did go after big tech. I sued Google. I sued
- 20:26Speaker 3: Facebook for stealing information from us without telling us. I
- 20:29Speaker 3: went after Netflix and TikTok and Snapchat. I went after
- 20:33Speaker 3: Meta for what they were doing to kids online, exposing
- 20:36Speaker 3: them and having no protections, no parental control. And we
- 20:39Speaker 3: were successful getting over a billion dollars and changing everything.
- 20:43Speaker 3: how Meta does their online for children. We went after
- 20:47Speaker 3: the Texas Children's Hospital and other doctors who were transitioning kids.
- 20:51Speaker 3: And we were able to have doctors removed from practicing
- 20:54Speaker 3: as doctors. And then we got Texas Children's Hospital, not
- 20:57Speaker 3: only to pay 10 million, but they opened a detransition unit,
- 21:00Speaker 3: I think this week. that will detransition for five years
- 21:04Speaker 3: kids that have been through that for free. So we've
- 21:06Speaker 3: had a lot of successes. I see Pfizer over the vaccine.
- 21:10Speaker 3: We've done a lot of stuff that I think is
- 21:12Speaker 3: really good for Texas. And you're right. No one wants
- 21:14Speaker 3: to talk about that. James Tallarico doesn't want to talk
- 21:16Speaker 3: about it. The mainstream media doesn't want to talk about it.
- 21:19Speaker 3: They just want to go after me for other things,
- 21:22Speaker 3: make up stuff that I let child predators out, that
- 21:24Speaker 3: I'm for higher taxes, all of it ridiculous and false.
- 21:27Speaker 3: But that's the game that James Tallarico has to play
- 21:30Speaker 3: in order to win.
- 21:31Speaker 1: Well, if you put the accomplishments next to each other,
- 21:34Speaker 1: and we don't know the name Paxton or the name Tallarico,
- 21:36Speaker 1: you would absolutely, I mean, if your accomplishments were on
- 21:39Speaker 1: a scale against his, he would be way up in
- 21:42Speaker 1: the air and the side of the scale would be
- 21:44Speaker 1: so far down for you. But that's the problem. As
- 21:47Speaker 1: you just outlined, the mainstream legacy media doesn't want people
- 21:50Speaker 1: to know what you've achieved.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 21:53Speaker 3: Or what he's achieved. Think about it. What are his
- 21:55Speaker 3: accomplishments in his entire life? What has he done, even professionally?
- 21:59Speaker 3: He's a DEI consultant in Austin, Texas, and he gets
- 22:03Speaker 3: paid by school districts to teach them how to be woke.
- 22:07Speaker 3: And guess what? You know what he did, which I
- 22:09Speaker 3: think is extremely corrupt that no one ever talks about?
- 22:12Speaker 3: He tried to pass a bill that would have required
- 22:14Speaker 3: school districts to hire his firm or firms like his.
- 22:17Speaker 3: That sounds pretty corrupt to me, and that's what he did,
- 22:20Speaker 3: but none of the media will. If I had done
- 22:22Speaker 3: anything like that, they would call for my resignation, but
- 22:25Speaker 3: they let him just run by with it.
- 22:27Speaker 1: I think you've got him dead to rights when it
- 22:28Speaker 1: comes to accomplishments, and I think that a debate would
- 22:31Speaker 1: have been great. Why didn't the debate happen? I mean,
- 22:33Speaker 1: I think the easy answer is, well, you were available
- 22:35Speaker 1: for 13 days while he was missing in action. Maybe
- 22:38Speaker 1: that's the right answer, but why didn't it happen? You
- 22:40Speaker 1: said that you were trying to get it together, his
- 22:42Speaker 1: team and your team and whatever. It just didn't happen.
- 22:44Speaker 1: I think it would have been very beneficial.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Go ahead. I think if he had not disappeared, we
- 22:49Speaker 3: would have gotten something worked out. But the reality was
- 22:51Speaker 3: we were debating initially. They wanted me to do it
- 22:53Speaker 3: with reporters that I would never go on with. They
- 22:55Speaker 3: were totally favorable to him. Those discussions were still going on.
- 22:59Speaker 3: Then he disappeared, and we didn't have time to put
- 23:02Speaker 3: it together because we were putting our 17-day bus tour,
- 23:05Speaker 3: and we didn't want to change that after he came
- 23:08Speaker 3: back finally.
- 23:10Speaker 1: Listen, that's a good answer. I mean, that's an absolutely
- 23:13Speaker 1: good answer. And why should you have to kowtow to
- 23:15Speaker 1: him who disappeared for almost two weeks? That doesn't make
- 23:17Speaker 1: any sense. Do you think that the Bush family, some
- 23:23Speaker 1: of the members of the Bush family, Karl Rove and others,
- 23:26Speaker 1: switching sides, saying they're going to vote for Tallarico, which
- 23:28Speaker 1: is stupid, does that matter to a voter, do you think?
- 23:33Speaker 2: Well, you know, this is a really difficult thing for
- 23:35Speaker 2: me because, you know, I know Jeb, I knew President Bush,
- 23:39Speaker 2: I know Karl, but I'm disappointed. Because, as I said before,
- 23:45Speaker 2: you know, Republicans splitting up like this does no good.
- 23:49Speaker 2: And I mean, it's also Cornyn as well. I mean,
- 23:51Speaker 2: he's just not lifting a finger. We all know that.
- 23:53Speaker 2: He's a sore loser as well. Do I think it
- 23:56Speaker 2: makes a difference? It does in some of the suburban
- 23:59Speaker 2: areas when we get outside of like Dallas and we
- 24:02Speaker 2: get outside some other areas where you have these suburban
- 24:05Speaker 2: Republican voters who view themselves as being traditionalist, sort of Reagan-esque, Bush-types.
- 24:12Speaker 2: And some of them take it very seriously. It's a
- 24:15Speaker 2: little click. But a click of 20,000 or 30,000 or
- 24:18Speaker 2: 50,000 in a race like this could do you in.
- 24:22Speaker 2: People should be pleading with these people. Please don't do
- 24:25Speaker 2: this to us. Why in the world would you put
- 24:27Speaker 2: someone like this? This is not anything that George H.W.
- 24:30Speaker 2: Bush believed in. Nothing he believed in. And I can't imagine.
- 24:34Speaker 2: You know, I know that President Trump has said some
- 24:36Speaker 2: rough things about them. And I hate that. I really do.
- 24:40Speaker 2: But it is what it is. I don't say rough
- 24:42Speaker 2: things about the Bushes. I like George W. I like
- 24:44Speaker 2: George H.W.
- 24:45Speaker 1: I knew them both.
- 24:46Speaker 2: And I knew Jeb Bush very well. And I like him.
- 24:48Speaker 2: The fact is, though, you've got to separate that from
- 24:52Speaker 2: the future of a nation that's drifting towards socialism. And
- 24:56Speaker 2: I find it amazing that these people would play footsie
- 24:59Speaker 2: with something like that.
- 25:02Speaker 1: When it comes to what's happening with Texas politics, we've
- 25:04Speaker 1: got a soundbite that that Ted Cruz, I think, said
- 25:08Speaker 1: yesterday on some show where he said, you know, we're
- 25:11Speaker 1: in fear of losing Texas, not just the Senate race.
- 25:14Speaker 1: It could be a lot of other races statewide. Why
- 25:16Speaker 1: is that happening? I'm not here to say it's going
- 25:18Speaker 1: to happen, but I know some congressional districts are going
- 25:21Speaker 1: to go the wrong way. They shouldn't, but they could.
- 25:23Speaker 1: I hope that you're going to pull it off. I
- 25:25Speaker 1: think I feel pretty good about Greg Abbott pulling it off.
- 25:28Speaker 1: But what is this? Is this the culmination of the
- 25:31Speaker 1: blue wave from California and New York and New Jersey
- 25:34Speaker 1: and the Midwest coming to Texas, changing the politics of Texas.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Why are we here?
- 25:40Speaker 3: This is very similar to what happened eight years ago.
- 25:42Speaker 3: You'll remember midterm election, midterm for President Trump, and Ted
- 25:47Speaker 3: Cruz squeaks it out with a 2% win, and we
- 25:51Speaker 3: lose a lot of other seats. I think it's just
- 25:53Speaker 3: a function of midterm elections, and it's not Trump. It's
- 25:57Speaker 3: every president just about ever had trouble in a midterm,
- 26:00Speaker 3: and whether they're good or bad, it just seems like
- 26:03Speaker 3: What happens is, and I think it's something called the
- 26:05Speaker 3: enthusiasm gap, and what happens is if your party is
- 26:08Speaker 3: in power and your party is in power in the
- 26:10Speaker 3: state you're in as well as nationally, you're like everything
- 26:13Speaker 3: is good. You're not mad about anything. You're just busy,
- 26:15Speaker 3: and you don't go vote. Well, the other side is like, well,
- 26:18Speaker 3: I hate how this state is being run. I want
- 26:20Speaker 3: higher taxes, and I want all these liberal policies. And
- 26:23Speaker 3: I've got a president that won't do that. So they're motivated.
- 26:25Speaker 3: They get out and vote. And so that difference of 5%, 6%,
- 26:30Speaker 3: it makes a huge– it makes the difference between winning
- 26:33Speaker 3: and losing because– We do have margins in Texas. We
- 26:35Speaker 3: got more Republican voters. But if they don't vote, it
- 26:38Speaker 3: doesn't matter. We won't win. If they do vote, we
- 26:40Speaker 3: will win. It's as simple as that. Republicans get out
- 26:42Speaker 3: and vote and get their friends out, their family out.
- 26:44Speaker 3: We will win. If they do not get out, then
- 26:47Speaker 3: the Democrats are going to make this a socialist state.
- 26:50Speaker 3: And we're on the path towards the entire country going
- 26:53Speaker 3: into socialism and then communism.
- 26:57Speaker 1: Is there a dark horse race in Minnesota? Can Michelle
- 27:00Speaker 1: Tafoya beat Peggy Flanagan? Flanagan, she's got all this fraud
- 27:05Speaker 1: that she's trying to separate herself from, but she knew
- 27:07Speaker 1: about it, or at least it was either incompetent, ignorant,
- 27:10Speaker 1: or she knew all about it. Michelle Tafoya suddenly is
- 27:13Speaker 1: surging in some of these polls. I don't know if
- 27:15Speaker 1: I believe the polls. I believe you. Can she win?
- 27:18Speaker 2: Well, she was. In the most recent polls, they've really
- 27:21Speaker 2: poured it on up in Minnesota to try to catch up.
- 27:26Speaker 2: And they may have pulled it off. I don't know.
- 27:28Speaker 2: But it was a one point race a couple of
- 27:31Speaker 2: weeks ago. I think I saw a poll that that
- 27:33Speaker 2: I respect showed it like it may be a two
- 27:35Speaker 2: or three point race now. But it's not inconceivable that
- 27:38Speaker 2: she could win because people up there are tired of
- 27:41Speaker 2: this stuff. And I do believe that when pollsters ask
- 27:44Speaker 2: questions in places like Minnesota, where it's just not cool
- 27:47Speaker 2: to be a Republican, they don't want to tell the truth.
- 27:49Speaker 2: They tell the truth when they get in that voting
- 27:52Speaker 2: voting booth. And so I think any I think every
- 27:55Speaker 2: state's a battleground state this year. I will tell you this.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Even Florida is going to be close as the Senate
- 28:00Speaker 2: is going to go. Yeah. Senate's going to go GOP.
- 28:03Speaker 2: The governor's race here is going to be very tight.
- 28:04Speaker 2: So don't be shocked when you start seeing this race unfold.
- 28:08Speaker 2: And it's a two to three point race. Nowhere is
- 28:12Speaker 2: safe for a Democrat or a Republican this year. It's
- 28:15Speaker 2: a battlefield everywhere.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Let me ask you one last question. I know that
- 28:18Speaker 1: the early the young vote, I should say, in 2024,
- 28:21Speaker 1: really pulled in the president and the right and having
- 28:25Speaker 1: the House and Senate. Charlie Kirk, that voice is gone.
- 28:28Speaker 1: We don't have anybody who has replaced him on a
- 28:31Speaker 1: national level, like one congealed guy or gal that says
- 28:34Speaker 1: this is the way it is, young people. Might young
- 28:36Speaker 1: people sit on their hands and not vote at all
- 28:38Speaker 1: this time around? And conversely, are we seeing a silver
- 28:41Speaker 1: wave where elderly people, older people in America, not elderly,
- 28:45Speaker 1: I've got silver hair, I'm 60. But elderly people in America,
- 28:49Speaker 1: there you go. Are we seeing where young people sit out,
- 28:53Speaker 1: but the older people might take up the slack?
- 28:57Speaker 2: So this silver wave, I created that term about three
- 29:01Speaker 2: or four weeks ago. And it is a silver wave.
- 29:03Speaker 2: The problem that we have going on with the silver
- 29:05Speaker 2: wave is it's a silver wave, but it's also made
- 29:08Speaker 2: up of left-wing hippie types who show up at all
- 29:12Speaker 2: these anti-Trump, no-kings rallies. who are turning out in droves
- 29:17Speaker 2: to vote the other way. Now, the young people have
- 29:21Speaker 2: turned on us this year that we're not seeing polls
- 29:23Speaker 2: that show that they support Republicans. So what the older
- 29:28Speaker 2: the voter is and all the polls and we polled
- 29:30Speaker 2: every state over and over again, the older they are,
- 29:32Speaker 2: the more likely they are to vote Republican because of socialism.
- 29:35Speaker 2: They don't want socialism. And they are the only ones
- 29:38Speaker 2: who remember what it's like because.
- 29:39Speaker 3: Right.
- 29:40Speaker 2: These other younger people have been taught in school that
- 29:42Speaker 2: socialism is great. They don't know the history of the
- 29:44Speaker 2: Soviet Union, don't know about Cuba, don't know about China,
- 29:47Speaker 2: and don't know anything about Eastern Europe when it was
- 29:49Speaker 2: dominated by the Soviet Union. So we are getting older
- 29:54Speaker 2: voters turning out in the largest number possible. But what
- 29:57Speaker 2: we have to have are those people in the middle
- 30:01Speaker 2: who care about their children and their grandchildren to go
- 30:04Speaker 2: out and vote in a big way, because if they don't,
- 30:08Speaker 2: these races, which are close, are going to go to
- 30:10Speaker 2: the Democrats.
- 30:12Speaker 1: Let me let me finish with this. I think that
- 30:14Speaker 1: we hold the Senate might even pick up a seat
- 30:16Speaker 1: or two if things go the right way. I fear
- 30:19Speaker 1: the House. What do you think is going to happen?
- 30:22Speaker 2: I don't think the House is salvageable, and I have
- 30:24Speaker 2: said that for quite some time. I think I'm in
- 30:27Speaker 2: agreement with you. An interesting thing developed today in Alaska.
- 30:30Speaker 2: The New York Times, of all things, can you believe that?
- 30:33Speaker 2: The New York Times, they already have the honoring of ignorance,
- 30:35Speaker 2: and I just pick on them left and right. And
- 30:37Speaker 2: they suddenly uncovered the fact that allegedly the Democrat campaign
- 30:42Speaker 2: in Alaska recruited the individual who has the basic same
- 30:46Speaker 2: name as our Republican Senator, Sullivan.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Right.
- 30:49Speaker 2: I don't know what Alaska's only got 608,000 registered voters.
- 30:55Speaker 2: So a scandal like that breaking at the last minute,
- 30:58Speaker 2: that could really move. I think Alaska may change. I'm
- 31:01Speaker 2: polling it. I'll know in the next few days. I'm
- 31:03Speaker 2: not going to miss.
- 31:05Speaker 1: I saw the story. I did not expect Alaska, though,
- 31:07Speaker 1: to be in play, which is great. I also see
- 31:09Speaker 1: that Lisa Murkowski is somehow now supporting a Democrat. I mean,
- 31:13Speaker 1: she's such a mess. But now Maine, I think, is solid.
- 31:15Speaker 1: I think you might grab Minnesota. I know it's a
- 31:17Speaker 1: long shot. Michigan, I feel very good about. And even
- 31:19Speaker 1: if Tallarico were to win here in Texas, which, God forbid,
- 31:22Speaker 1: I think that you still either hold the same number
- 31:24Speaker 1: or maybe gain one. We know that James Tallarico is
- 31:29Speaker 1: a gun grabber. I've got five guns. not 10 feet
- 31:32Speaker 1: from where I'm sitting right now, because I enjoy my
- 31:34Speaker 1: Second Amendment. I enjoy how we get to utilize it
- 31:37Speaker 1: here in Texas. What about the come and take it tour?
- 31:39Speaker 1: I mean, that has more meanings than just guns. But
- 31:41Speaker 1: of course, the direct reference is guns. Talk about his want,
- 31:45Speaker 1: his desire to take the guns out of my hands
- 31:48Speaker 1: and to kill the Second Amendment. And tell me what
- 31:50Speaker 1: you're hearing on this come and take it tour.
- 31:54Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt that he wants to take away
- 31:56Speaker 3: our Second Amendment rights. He's He learned from Beto not
- 31:59Speaker 3: to talk about it, but there's no doubt that he
- 32:01Speaker 3: wants to take away our state. Anything that would seem
- 32:04Speaker 3: like it was constitutional, he seems to be against. So yeah,
- 32:07Speaker 3: I'm hearing from people that understand that we have a
- 32:11Speaker 3: huge risk here of losing a state. And once we
- 32:14Speaker 3: lose that state, we lose the country. They will control
- 32:17Speaker 3: the elections of the states that they win, and they
- 32:20Speaker 3: will make sure we never win again. Their goal is
- 32:22Speaker 3: a one-party country, and then they're going to add Puerto
- 32:26Speaker 3: Rico and the district of Columbia and make it so
- 32:29Speaker 3: impossible for Republic for there to be competition. Oh yeah.
- 32:32Speaker 3: You'll have Republicans win certain places, but we will never
- 32:35Speaker 3: have the opportunity to control. They will run this like
- 32:37Speaker 3: a dictatorship. That's where we're headed and people need to
- 32:40Speaker 3: hear that. And that's the message that we're trying to
- 32:42Speaker 3: get out.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Voted for you. I've been telling people why you're the
- 32:44Speaker 1: right guy because of your record as the attorney general.
- 32:47Speaker 1: And I've been calling out his lies every single day.
- 32:49Speaker 1: Just give me a quick prediction before you run upstairs.
- 32:53Speaker 3: It's going to be a close election, but we're going
- 32:55Speaker 3: to pull it out in the end. Election Day really
- 32:57Speaker 3: matters because our voters tend to show up in bigger
- 32:59Speaker 3: numbers on Election Day. That's why it's so important. Bring
- 33:02Speaker 3: a friend. Bring a couple of friends. Bring your family.
- 33:05Speaker 3: Just make sure that every Republican in your contacts has
- 33:09Speaker 3: voted in this election.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Great advice, Ken. Good luck to you. Be safe on
- 33:12Speaker 1: the bus tour. We'll talk to you very soon, my friend.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Thanks for the time today.
- 33:16Speaker 3: Thanks, Joe. Have a great, great, great weekend.
- 33:18Speaker 1: All right. You too, my friend. That's it. Ken Paxton, U.S.
- 33:21Speaker 1: Senate nominee for the Republicans here in Texas. I hope
- 33:23Speaker 1: you go and vote for him.