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Luka Doncic’s Numbers Force The MVP Talk · Front Runner Podcast Collective

• 0:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: A twenty-four-year-old rookie calls Luca trash in his first NBA game.
• 0:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Friday, Luca answers with 21 in the first quarter.
• 0:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Sunday, that rookie drops 37.
• 0:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And then a draft class with five names and no number one.
• 0:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: A 7'3 center from Italia.
• 0:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: A temper that is reported not proven.
• 0:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And a 17-year-old, nobody that can tell me who he guards.
• 0:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And then two guys who won championships together.
• 1:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It'll all make sense once we get through it.
• 1:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's go.
• 2:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We've been in the film room.
• 2:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We've been, you know, watching games, getting it through.
• 2:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We're going to have grown conversations about these players, some of the coaches, the front offices that are actually making moves.
• 2:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Real G's were moving silence.
• 2:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know that.
• 2:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And we're going to talk about some of the locker room chatter.
• 2:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And some of the PR spin.
• 2:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And it was heavy this week.
• 2:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The actual and the verify receipts.
• 2:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We are bringing jokes to the dome piece today.
• 2:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We also have the advanced math and the exact barbershop ammo that you need to take back straight to your group chat and completely nuke the argument.
• 2:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If you're an NBA sicko like me, who be watching them Sacramento Kings games to see Darius A cuff shoot the ball 26 times and then have Demonis Sabonis only shooting the ball five.
• 3:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know where you need to be.
• 3:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So let's go.
• 3:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We're gonna get into it.
• 3:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Yaxo Lundenberg looks like a real rookie of the year threat.
• 3:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So he goes out here.
• 3:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He is um he's trash talking Luca, which was interesting in his first game, but it doesn't stop there.
• 3:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Yaxel Lundenberg has 156 coins through his first seven games.
• 3:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He trails only Will Chamberlain and Rick Berry for the most points by any Warriors rookie through seven games.
• 3:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's two questions really.
• 3:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: First, is Jaxel Lundenberg a real threat for rookie of the year?
• 3:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And the scarier question, is Yaxel a fundament a fund foundational piece for the Warriors?
• 4:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, as a Lakers fan or as a Lakers supporter, however you want to put it, I try to take a lot of my fan hat off and put the analyst hat on when I'm doing the podcast.
• 4:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But you know I believe purple and gold fool.
• 4:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know I do.
• 4:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So I would love to tell you that Friday night was a real was real Yaxel.
• 4:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Luca had 21 in the first quarter, made him look silly.
• 4:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The rookie only had six points.
• 4:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He looked shook.
• 4:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He had five turnovers to go out, go go along with that, and he also fouled out.
• 4:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That was fun for me.
• 4:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That was sport.
• 4:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Luca was playing with his food.
• 4:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But then Sunday happened, and the Yaxo scored 37 points on 13 of 19 of shooting against the Clippers.
• 4:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now listen, the Clippers aren't great.
• 4:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know what I'm saying?
• 4:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But anytime when rookies show that type of efficiency, you know, this podcast is definitely gonna really uh is gonna really geek out for stuff like that for sure.
• 5:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Here's what supports guests on both shots that he holds up.
• 5:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The efficiency was high.
• 5:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's leading all rookies in scoring after uh four games, and he bounced back from the worst game of his life, as he so says it.
• 5:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And here's because he is like 24 and also moved around.
• 5:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now we're not gonna because now all the dudes are doing it.
• 5:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If you stay in school for like three, four years now, you've probably been to two or three schools.
• 5:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's not even a question anymore, it's just how life is that name, image, and likeness situation has completely changed the foundation of college basketball.
• 5:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's more like junior NBA, basically, but they have a cooler tournament at the end.
• 6:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's pretty much what it is.
• 6:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So let's get into some of some of the claims that we can make for on his rookie of the year kind uh claim.
• 6:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's give you a little background on our guy on the board.
• 6:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's 24, he's 24.
• 6:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Uh, five years ago, he was in junior college at Yuma, Arizona.
• 6:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He went from Arizona to UAB, and then he went to Michigan.
• 6:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: In that time, he piled up 3,000 points, 1,700 rebounds across the three stops.
• 6:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He pulled his name out in the 2025 draft.
• 6:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He transferred to Michigan and won a national title.
• 6:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So he won an Addy.
• 6:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And he was one of the driving forces of that team.
• 6:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's not make any mistake about it.
• 6:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now we talked about his absolutely abysmal performance against the Lakers the other night.
• 7:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But again, in true Yaxel Laundryborg fashion, two days later, he put the ass whooping, belt of ass to the Clippers, and everybody was hurt.
• 7:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Everybody was taking the day off.
• 7:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know, we had Curry out there resting, Draymond out resting.
• 7:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And it's it's the most points by a Warriors rookie since Steph Curry's 42 in April of 2010.
• 7:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So that 37 is touching greatness wherever he goes.
• 7:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Kerr says the game is still fast for him, and that the defense he has a lot to work on, and we hope there are better moments ahead for him.
• 7:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Notice what Kerr did just did there in six games, and he's already telling you the kid, has seen everything.
• 7:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He also is telling him that his defense needs work.
• 8:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: True Steve Kerr fashion.
• 8:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Before the season, Draymond Green called him the next face of the franchise.
• 8:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's big praise.
• 8:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Kerr says he's a strong, he's strong as an ox and he's skilled as well.
• 8:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And Golden State has already extended Brandon Parzinski and may be considering a similar deal for London Borg if he keeps can keeps improving.
• 8:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's not get ahead of ourselves, you know.
• 8:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I know the Lakers are real big on the rookies and stuff like that.
• 8:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They love Wiseman, they love Kaminga and Moses Moody.
• 8:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But we saw how that worked out in the past.
• 8:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, I don't think that Lundigberg is is those guys.
• 8:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I think he's a completely different dude.
• 8:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Personally, I think he's a very skilled for somebody 6'9, 240 pounds.
• 8:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But I want to see more.
• 8:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Obviously, we have a small sample size here.
• 8:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now on draft night, the Warriors took him with the number 11 overall pick, a few spots ahead of his consensus, anywhere between 12 to 14.
• 9:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No problem there.
• 9:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And here's the thing: if you get your player wherever you get him at, and he turns out to be this productive, it doesn't matter.
• 9:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We got number 17 picks over here that are absolutely trash.
• 9:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They don't even play for us anymore.
• 9:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So I would love to have a pick that works out.
• 9:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Uh, we're still looking at you, Cameron Carr.
• 9:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'll say this as as somebody who supports the Lakers, calling Luca trash in your first NBA game takes a certain confidence.
• 9:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Don't make that a habit.
• 9:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Curry said backing him down, backing him up after the Lakers game was part of why the Warriors came back from 25.
• 9:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That was a terrible game for the Lakers.
• 9:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Here's what I will say about my guy.
• 9:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: These are the things that actually matter.
• 10:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Through seven games, 22 points, 22.3 points to be exact, 7.3 rebounds, 3.7 assists in 32 minutes.
• 10:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He also is averaging just a tick under one steal a game and uh 0.4 blocks.
• 10:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now he's shooting 52% from the field with 14 shots a game.
• 10:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's also 60 or 60% on twos, and his effective field goal percentage is 0.608.
• 10:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's awesome.
• 10:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His true shooting percentage is 64.5, and he also has a usage rate of 27.1.
• 10:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So he's handling the ball a lot, he's shooting the ball pretty efficiently.
• 10:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His true shooting percentage shows you that.
• 10:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because this another thing that we're gonna talk about momentarily.
• 11:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His PR is 21 and a half, and for a rookie, what all that means is that yo, he's productive as hell.
• 11:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, the big question from three, not bad, right?
• 11:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: 40.9% on 6.3 attempts.
• 11:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know what I'm saying?
• 11:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That he shot 42% at Michigan, so this ain't nothing new.
• 11:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The only thing that's different is that the three-point shot is a little bit deeper in the NBA than it is in college basketball.
• 11:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But my man is knocking him down with regularity no matter where he's at.
• 11:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If he's at college with amazing gold, or he's in the Bay Area, the Yay area, reping the Warriors, reping Dub Nation.
• 11:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He doing his thing.
• 11:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His free throw 74.4%.
• 11:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now it's not that mark that we're looking for, that 80% that we're looking for, but you know what I'm saying?
• 12:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's a rookie.
• 12:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: There's gotta be some things that are a little, you know, jinky.
• 12:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His defense lags, which is crazy, because he was a defensive dude when he was at Michigan.
• 12:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I think it'll slow down for him, and once he starts to be able to use his size and his quickness and his mass, I think that it will be better uh down the road.
• 12:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I think the Warriors got something here.
• 12:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Honestly.
• 12:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I mean, I love the swag.
• 12:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I love the situation where he is talking trash to Luca, even though you know Luca's our guy.
• 12:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But if you're sitting there and you're having this much confidence in your rookie season and you're not afraid, these are all positive signs for me.
• 12:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And um, if you want to look at it this way, here's the thing that you want to really kind of take to the bank.
• 13:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This dude is not gonna stop starting once Jimmy Butler and Moses Moody gets back.
• 13:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's gonna be part of, I believe.
• 13:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: There's no way you can take that type of production out of lineup when he's doing it.
• 13:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, obviously, if he starts to skid and slide or whatever, maybe there's a different story, but if this continues the way it is, and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't, the Warriors need him right now.
• 13:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His production is not a added bonus, it is absolutely needed.
• 13:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So Lonning Ward being who he is, and the best part about him is it was a negative when he was in the draft process, but it's a positive now.
• 13:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's 24.
• 13:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So it's not like you're getting this kid who's 19, who, you know, he gets on his first road trip, has no idea what the hell is going on, trying to get into the nightlife and whatever the case may be.
• 14:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is a grown-ass man.
• 14:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So he's trying to handle himself accordingly.
• 14:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's been soaking up the knowledge under Steph Curry and also Draymond Green.
• 14:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So I love that.
• 14:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I love the way he gets down, I love that he's coachable.
• 14:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Curry expects him to learn patterns, doubles, and pick and roll.
• 14:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Lundergorts says he watches film on himself.
• 14:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Yeah, I love that.
• 14:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The read his usage and his efficiency once Butler returns, who knows?
• 14:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is he gonna be more of a spot up shooter?
• 14:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Maybe.
• 14:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But maybe by the time he gets back, the flow is so crispy that maybe it is a little change to the situation.
• 14:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm not saying that Jimmy Butler is going to be surpassed by somebody who's a rookie, but what I'm saying is that the production is needed.
• 15:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And Jimmy is not a guy who takes volume shots, especially when we're talking about the three ball.
• 15:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Well, Yaxel would.
• 15:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And they're gonna need that, they're gonna need two guys who can spot up and hit the trade ball, and you got Steph Curry, so a Yaxel Lundberg out there doing his thing, and uh willing passers like Jimmy Butler and also Draymond Green help that situation out.
• 15:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So, my question is this is he a rookie of the year candidate?
• 15:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You got dog right he is.
• 15:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And it's not what he did to the Lakers, it's not all that.
• 15:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's what he's doing for his team.
• 15:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And what he's doing for his team is being productive.
• 15:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Anytime you over 20 points a game as a rookie, you're doing work.
• 15:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is he gonna be a foundational piece?
• 15:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: All depends on what you're looking for.
• 16:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now I think he can be.
• 16:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I think he can be.
• 16:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I don't think he can be the number one guy, but I do believe he can be like the number three guy if you're talking about what we're looking for in a in a player.
• 16:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is he uh he is a perfect compliment to a Steph Curry or whatever the case may be.
• 16:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's a perfect compliment to I'm trying to think.
• 16:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Oh, could you imagine him liking Charlotte or something?
• 16:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now listen, Duff man, I'm not trying to take your boy away from you.
• 16:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: What I'm saying is is that him or Yaxel in Charlotte as another like spot up shooter and somebody who can get to the rim and what have you, willing passer, also a good rebounder, useful.
• 16:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And when you have Brandon Miller and you have Khan Knippel, Yaxo Lundberg fits into that situation.
• 16:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So I think Golden State obviously doesn't have its one and two for the future, but Yaxo fitting into that mix 100%.
• 17:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I do believe that he can be a foundational piece for a team that is competitive.
• 17:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, the dude that he dissed, we need to talk about it.
• 17:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because here's the thing Luca Donce is out here is he on a mission.
• 17:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Apparently, the mission is to take as many basketball souls with him uh as he can all season.
• 17:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: My man has 87 points in 71 minutes over the last uh couple games.
• 17:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay?
• 17:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's what he's doing.
• 17:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So Sunday and Monday, they play back to back 87 points in 71 minutes.
• 17:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's straight.
• 17:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Lucas' performance are sheer artistry, and the numbers he's putting up are crazy.
• 18:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But I still don't believe in the Lakers defense, and I know they need another wing.
• 18:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They can use a Yakso Lunderberg.
• 18:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Somebody who can rebound and uh rebound the basketball, play some defense, and knock down a three-point shot.
• 18:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So, questions that we have right now is how long the art can carry the team that ranks 20th 20th in defensive rating, and you know I'm a Lakers supporter for show, so I tell you where that helps and where it doesn't.
• 18:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So let's get to the Luca artistry, shall we?
• 18:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Sunday against the Raptors and Monday against the Heat.
• 18:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: My boy, I told you he put up 87 points, but check this out.
• 18:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: 26 of 47 shooting with 14 threes in a 24 hour span.
• 18:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He has 226 points through his first six games.
• 19:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He is third, he's the third player since 1960 to do that.
• 19:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You wanna you wanna hear the names that he's next to?
• 19:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Michael Jordan and Will Chamberlain.
• 19:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Michael Jordan in 86 and Will Chamberlain did it twice.
• 19:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Lakers back up, big Sanjo, Mamu, Killis Vili said you need three guys to guard him.
• 19:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Three guys.
• 19:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I want to see three guys.
• 19:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I like to see them, I like to meet them and s have them for tribute.
• 19:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: May the odds forever be in your favor.
• 19:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Sunday he became the second player, Luca, that is, became the second player since the steals were tracked in 1973 to score 45 points.
• 19:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Oh, by the way, he grabbed 15 rebounds, he handed out five dimes, and also also pilfered five pockets.
• 20:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know what I'm saying?
• 20:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He had five steals in one game.
• 20:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The other is Anthony Davis.
• 20:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Can you imagine?
• 20:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Imagine Anthony Davis now.
• 20:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I bet you he wish he was here chilling with the Lakers, just chilling.
• 20:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Monday against the Miami.
• 20:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He he had his 29th career 40-point game uh with 10 assists, which is third most behind Oscar Robertson and James Harden.
• 20:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And it came on a back-to-back.
• 20:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, you want to talk about greatness, recognizing greatness.
• 20:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Giannis Anton Tecumpo called him the best scorer to play the game, if not the best, and then he was asked if he meant right now.
• 20:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He said, No, not right now, of all time.
• 20:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I feel like some people are scared to say that, but he's got he's got to be up there.
• 21:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So, game recognizes game.
• 21:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Giannis out here showing love to Luca Donchus.
• 21:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We love that, especially after you got belt to ass, okay, and you got handed a 21-point whoop ass.
• 21:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: JJ Reddick says he feels like a supernova, but it also feels normal.
• 21:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We live on a spaceship and we're going at the speed of light all at all times when he's on the court.
• 21:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: After loss to Portland last week, Walker Kessler said we've been relying on our offense a lot, and we have a very, very good offense and a lot of great scores, but that's not going to be the only thing that gets us to the win to win a championship around here.
• 21:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, we're talking about Walker Kessler in one second.
• 21:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now you put those two side by side, the coach.
• 22:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: To what he's saying about the spaceship and center talking about offense is not going to win it alone.
• 22:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He is 100% right in his subnation.
• 22:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And that's what this whole situation is about.
• 22:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I want to celebrate Luca because he's absolutely filthy.
• 22:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And we're going to talk about something at the end of this.
• 22:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And you know how I'm going to back the Lakers all the way.
• 22:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But let's get to what Dan Devine of Yahoo Sports had to say.
• 22:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He says that after a stretch between Luca's arrival at in 2025 at the trade deadline and LeBron's farewell this summer, the Lakers built a Luca Donce team.
• 22:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And they showed the show hell did.
• 22:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, here's the thing.
• 22:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now Zaire Williams has been off and on with foot issues.
• 23:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now he's back.
• 23:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He uh played a little bit last last night, which was great.
• 23:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And then also we got Matisse Stybel knocking down three balls on a historic level.
• 23:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This dude is knocking them down for him for him.
• 23:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I remember back in the day when that was not the case for Matisse Style.
• 23:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, you want to hear some numbers that that are scintillating to the to the touch?
• 23:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Luca Doncic is at 38.3 points a game.
• 23:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He also at eight rebounds on the dot and 8.1 assists with 1.9 steals and he's playing 35.7 minutes a game.
• 23:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: More stats for you?
• 23:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Sure.
• 23:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because it's all brilliant all the time when it comes to Luka Dodges.
• 23:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He is shooting 49.7% from the field.
• 23:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's shooting 42.7% from the land of three.
• 24:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And that's on 13.7 attempts a game.
• 24:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Playboy, he's getting it done.
• 24:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And he's also hitting those free throws, which is great.
• 24:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because last year he was a little inconsistent with that.
• 24:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Right now, he is shooting 80 88.7% at the free throw line with 10 attempts.
• 24:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, what else is he doing?
• 24:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The true shooting percentage is off the freaking charts.
• 24:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's shooting 68.3%.
• 24:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His usage is an alarming 39.4%, and his assist percentage is 41.4%.
• 24:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We talked about Yaxo's Wonderbird's PR, and I told you I don't like that stat, but his was 21.
• 25:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Luca Donche's is 34 PR.
• 25:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But here's the best number that he has.
• 25:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I am a big proponent of box plus minus.
• 25:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And when I saw this, I was like it's gonna be hard, and we're gonna get into it in a second.
• 25:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His box plus minus right now, as it stands, is 11.3.
• 25:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, you know what that means.
• 25:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know what that means.
• 25:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And I'm gonna say it right now.
• 25:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: MVP season loading for Luca Donces is here.
• 25:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is the season we've been waiting for.
• 25:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: My man is doing enough on defense because he's a positive 0.8 on defense, which listen, you can s you can laugh at that all you want, but for Luca, that's very good.
• 25:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's out here giving up his body, taking charges, and what have you.
• 26:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I think he has five over the last like four games or whatever.
• 26:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But the offense is off the charts.
• 26:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, 10.8 or actually 10.5, which puts him at 11.3 total box plus or minus.
• 26:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And anytime that you're above 10, you're an MVP candidate.
• 26:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And I'm gonna tell you right now, he's writing, he's writing the stories.
• 26:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's writing it, he's writing the book, and it looks good.
• 26:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now the Lakers are scoring at a crazy rate, they're scoring uh 132.5 points per 100 possessions with Luca on the floor.
• 26:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The league leader in Rockets in uh lead league in uh offense averages is the Rockets at 122.4.
• 26:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The team that is 62, fourth in the West, is at 122.1, which is second in the league.
• 27:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But here's the problem: the defense.
• 27:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The defense is giving up 114.9 points, 20th.
• 27:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now the net rate the net rating is still awesome, it's 7.2 because the offense is filthy.
• 27:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They rank 8th overall with that, but the defense is terrible.
• 27:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now Walker Kessler is holding it down.
• 27:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now I'm gonna give you his coins and stuff like that, but he's averaging 14.4 points a game, 10.5 remounds, he's shooting in 71.4%.
• 27:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But here's the big thing: 2.5 blocks a game, and when he's the closest defender at the rim, opponents are shooting 43.1%.
• 27:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's the best mark among players who has faced at least 30 of those shots.
• 27:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So I'll say that again.
• 28:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: When he's the closest defender at the rim, opponents are shooting 43.1%.
• 28:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Usually when you're at the rim, it's a layup or a dunk.
• 28:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: My man is denying all of that.
• 28:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Luka Reeves and Kessler are plus 104 in 146 minutes together.
• 28:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's the best three-man unit in the league so far.
• 28:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: My guy Austin Reeves is earning that cheddar that he got.
• 28:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know what I'm saying?
• 28:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Love it.
• 28:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's at 23.6 points a game, 5.1 assists, and he's also shooting 54% from the field, 44% from beyond the three-point line, and 87% from the free throw line.
• 28:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm actually disappointed in the 87.
• 28:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Crazy, right?
• 28:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But I'm actually disappointed in that.
• 28:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's the points that are given up, it's the turnovers that are also given up.
• 29:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Luca is averaging like five turnovers a game.
• 29:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That has to go down.
• 29:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That has to go down.
• 29:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Their one clear strength on defense on defense is Kessler at the rim.
• 29:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So he is actually earning the money that he was signed up for.
• 29:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So that's good.
• 29:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's gonna have to come down to the wings getting it done.
• 29:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know, can we put pressure on the ball?
• 29:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Do we have somebody who really does that?
• 29:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Bible's really not that guy.
• 29:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Grimes doesn't seem to be that guy.
• 29:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Colin Sexton's a little too small to be that guy.
• 29:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, I am that guy.
• 29:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And I don't know who they can go out and get.
• 30:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But right now, the Lakers defense is the only thing that's holding me back from being completely excited about this season.
• 30:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm so excited that the Luca the Luca Austin Reeves situation is working out.
• 30:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I think they're one of the best tandems that we have in NBA basketball.
• 30:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But the defense has to get better, and we gotta be able to put more pressure on the ball.
• 30:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So is Luca an MVP?
• 31:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No doubt.
• 31:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He drives the ball 17.3 points a game.
• 31:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Um, you know, he's out here making threes, he's out here scoring 40 points almost every single night.
• 31:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It looks like some Kobe shit, honestly, to tell you the truth.
• 31:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: R R P R guy, we love Kobe, but it does look like some Kobe stuff right there.
• 31:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I love it.
• 31:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I think Luca can be an MVP candidate for sure.
• 31:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And I know we get a lot of hate, but when your numbers are stacking up with Jordan and Will, there's nothing these people can say.
• 31:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So the national media can go suck it if for some reason they don't want to give Luca his flowers for being as pivotal as he is for the Lakers.
• 31:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I know y'all don't want us to have an MVP.
• 31:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's a shame that that Kobe Bryant walking around, well, not, you know, he only had one.
• 31:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know what I'm saying?
• 31:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Like, that's crazy.
• 32:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And I'm telling you right now, Luca is going to be at least top three in this MVP situation.
• 32:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: When we might be able to beat him out, because if if the record is just crazy in San Antonio, if for some reason SGA can put up high 50, low 60 wins in Oklahoma City, and he has another SGA season, I can see the writers giving it to him for all this, what's going down in OKC with the injuries or whatever.
• 32:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But my man Luca Doncic deserves to be put in this category.
• 32:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He deserves to have to be talked about as an MVP candidate, and I think that is 100% crazy if he is not talked about that.
• 32:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Speaking of Luca, we need to get to next year's draft class.
• 33:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We are going to talk about some of the dudes that are coming out this year, man.
• 33:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And it's not the 2026 draft class, let's be honest.
• 33:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But are there some intriguing players?
• 33:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Yes, there are.
• 33:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And are we going to cover those players?
• 33:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Yes, we are.
• 33:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Are we going to get you ready for the 2027 draft?
• 33:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No.
• 33:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We're not going to have you wait.
• 33:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We're going to get you in.
• 33:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We're going to get you uh together, and we're going to have you up to date on what you need for this situation.
• 33:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Quick question: Name the best draft prospect in the 2027 class.
• 33:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If you hesitate, you're not alone.
• 33:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because ESPN's Jeremy Woo says that this class looks like the 2024 class, which had no true consensus number one.
• 33:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So today, five names that we're going to talk about are Tyron Stokes out of Kansas, Dus Stefan, uh Jokomovich out of Bascalonia, Jordan Smith Jr.
• 34:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: out of Arkansas, Bruce Granch the third out of BYU, and Luigi C uh Su Yoji Suigo.
• 34:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Could be Sweigo.
• 34:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We're gonna call Swiggs out of Villanova.
• 34:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So these are the guys we're gonna talk about.
• 34:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And I am always a glass half-full type of guy when it comes to these draft picks.
• 34:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, is it the 2026 draft class where you had star-studded situations like AJ Devonta, uh, you had Darren Peterson, you had our guy Cam Boozer, you had Caleb Williams, no, and all the rest of them.
• 34:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That that draft class was deep, it was crazy.
• 35:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But here's the thing that we need to talk about when we when we go into this.
• 35:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Just because a draft class, just because a draft class is not that star-studded, oh, we got nothing but viral comments coming out of this draft class, like this dude is compared to this dude and whatever.
• 35:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That doesn't make it a bad draft class.
• 35:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: What it makes it is that these are guys that are going to fill roles on your team.
• 35:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, these are guys who are going to probably play productively for 10 years in the league.
• 35:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Are they gonna start?
• 35:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Some of them will.
• 36:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Could happen.
• 36:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Are they gonna be perennial MVPs?
• 36:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Probably not.
• 36:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But you know what?
• 36:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If you are the Utah Jazz of the world, you're the Portland Trailblazers of the world, you're the Memphis Grizzlies of the world, you're the Charlotte Hornets of the world, and I mean I'm gonna say this with all due respect.
• 36:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If you're the New Orleans Pelicans of the world, you need these guys.
• 36:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You need these guys to do what they do and give you the 14 to 16 points every single night to make your team go.
• 36:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So let's get into it real quick.
• 36:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Tyron Stokes out of Kansas.
• 36:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We're gonna start at the top because he's pretty much the guy that you know comes in usually at number one when you look at the consensus boards and what have you.
• 36:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's talk about him a little bit.
• 37:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Tools, he already has an NBA frame because he's standing 6'7, he's 230 pounds, and this kid is 19 years old.
• 37:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Clearly, he drank his milk.
• 37:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay?
• 37:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Clearly, they was feeding him right.
• 37:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now he is a strong, twitchy, and he's a load in transition.
• 37:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's a ball handler for his size.
• 37:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I love that part.
• 37:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, Sports Illustrated says that he thrives defensively on frame, on stocks, against lesser competition.
• 37:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Well, I can see that because he's probably being bigger than everybody else that he's played against.
• 37:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Standing at 6'7, 230 pounds.
• 37:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, he is in the Big 12.
• 37:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's gonna go up against some big boys.
• 37:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So we'll see how that all plays out.
• 37:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We'll see if he has a couple tricks up his sleeve that are not just based on his athletic prowess or his just I'm bigger than you, so I'm gonna just muscle you down and get to whatever spot I want.
• 38:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, if this was a tools contest, we'd be done in 30 seconds.
• 38:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But it isn't.
• 38:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So Jeremy Wu says this, and Bleacher record Jonathan Wasserman says this about him.
• 38:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Uh, NBA executives have concerns about his maturity level and his demeanor, and that scouts have noted his uncourt temper that sources are unnamed.
• 38:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So, we got a little maturity issue that has raised his head.
• 38:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We will monitor this situation closely as the college season has just started, so we will see if my man, if he gets into a little adversity, what happens.
• 38:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, I'm the type of person that we gotta see it.
• 39:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We gotta see it, and then we gotta see how destructive it is to the team before we make our own decisions on that.
• 39:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Just because you're a fiery competitor doesn't make you a bad dude.
• 39:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But I want to see how it affects him, how he then affects his teammates.
• 39:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is he turning on his teammates?
• 39:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is this a situation where he's now side-eyeing the coach or whatever the case may be?
• 39:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Then we can talk.
• 39:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But if he's just like mad, mad at himself because he's not, you know, executing the play right, I'm not gonna trip off something like that.
• 39:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I won't do that.
• 39:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, if you're doing it to the point where you're not getting back on defense, and then now you're hurting the team because they're on a they're on a uh five-on-four situation, then there's something to talk about as well.
• 39:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, the negative door language is from a credible source is one of those things that um usually outweighs the praise on his skills.
• 40:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But again, we want to see a bigger sample size before we say anything.
• 40:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, here's some of the things you need to know.
• 40:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The shot from three is streaky.
• 40:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Um we wish the release was a little bit quicker.
• 40:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's inconsistent from the free throw line, and he should live at the line because of his size and his strength.
• 40:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, AJ DuBonson, when he was at BYU and when he was in on the uh under 19 uh world team for the United States of America, that dude lived at the free throw line, and guess what?
• 40:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's doing that at the pro level as well.
• 40:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So we hope that we get to see that from Tyrone Stokes.
• 40:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We'll see.
• 40:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, he's a switchable athlete, he does not space the floor right now, so he's using basically just the athleticism to get dunks and get to the basket, and he thrives in transition at this point.
• 41:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, if it if the shot comes along, he can be a two-way star.
• 41:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know, that's what he could be.
• 41:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That body, that that strength can really help him.
• 41:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He also has a seven-foot wingspan, so that's also one of those things that is very tempting when you're looking at somebody who maybe not be your first option, but what could he be?
• 41:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: What's what's the tools he's got that could help us?
• 41:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is he is he dialed in on defense, those type of things.
• 41:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We will see what Tyron Stokes puts together this year, but that's the first guy that we need to talk about.
• 41:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The second guy is a complete export.
• 42:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No import.
• 42:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So sorry, other way around.
• 42:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's playing in the Euro League, and that's Stefan uh Joseph Mosmovich.
• 42:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now he's a six foot seven lefty, he's 17, he's turning 18 on November 16th, so happy early birthday to my boy from Slovenia.
• 42:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, when his his under 18 year old basket got the gold medal, and he was the tournament MVP.
• 42:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: ESPN Wu wrote this that no 2027 prospect gathered more momentum this summer than that many around the NBA see him as a real number one contender.
• 42:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, Bleacher Report has him fourth.
• 42:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, nobody was hotter than him, his name's like kind of flew off the boards, but here's the thing that we know about him.
• 43:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's out here, he's got a lot of tools.
• 43:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 43:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He his maturity with the ball in his hand, the comfort against physical defenders, no problem whatsoever.
• 43:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Cause here's the thing.
• 43:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Just like with my guy who uh Costa Rica, who just uh debuted at UCLA, those guys have been playing with grown men since they were 15 years old.
• 43:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So he's not worried about contact, he's not worried about physicality.
• 43:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm 17 years old.
• 43:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is now light work for me.
• 43:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He reads simple and has passes over the top of the defense that feels stuff is what you want to see from a seventeen year old.
• 43:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's gonna he's gonna slice and dice double teams and blitzes because he's reading it.
• 44:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Before you even get there, where the ball needs to go.
• 44:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And here's the thing: he's making the right pass pretty much all the time.
• 44:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And you gotta love that.
• 44:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Here's the thing that I can't shake.
• 44:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Um, nobody tells me who he guards.
• 44:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Silence on the defensive defense is a signal that I'm not gonna pretend it isn't.
• 44:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He plays a supporting role on his team and uh in the Euroleague.
• 44:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Um former NCAA stars and draft picks.
• 44:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So the senior sample is small, but I'm gonna tell you right now, as far as his his offensive acumen is off the charts.
• 44:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If I had to kind of categorize him, I will say that he's a long development project.
• 44:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Realistically, he's a connectively wing.
• 44:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His ceiling is a number one level initiator.
• 45:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Bus risks are moderate to high because of the evidence of defense is so thin.
• 45:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, what I will say about something like this is because it sometimes, even even in our day now, where we have the internet and we have all these things, they don't have it over there.
• 45:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So we're not getting a good film on these guys if they don't come over and play like college basketball.
• 45:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Like my guy Kusta Rica last night, who was dominant against Arizona.
• 45:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Anytime somebody came in the paint, and that dude is super real thin, he was blocking shots.
• 45:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And the only reason I'm talking about Custerica is because his the uh Jazumovich, his field level for the game has been compared to my guy Kusarica.
• 45:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So that's the only reason I'm saying that.
• 46:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, there's also a weight conflict.
• 46:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: One one uh scout has him at 187 pounds, Sports Illustrator has him at 205.
• 46:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I don't know which one is true, so we'll we'll slice it down the middle.
• 46:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We'll say he's about 196.
• 46:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And at 6'7, that's a little small, that's a little slight.
• 46:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So as far as his defense is concerned, that might be the reason.
• 46:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He might be getting physical through and people are playing through his chest because he's slight.
• 46:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But you know what happens when you're 17 years old, you get bigger.
• 46:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Right?
• 46:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You get bigger, and the one thing I always want to bank on is that if you have the offensive acumen to see the reads before they happen, that means that usually you also have good um interpretation on the defensive side, so you can read the passing lanes and jump them.
• 47:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And if he's gonna do that, I think the defense will come along.
• 47:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, as he grows into his body, we will see how that works out and see that if he has the taste and the acumen for the defensive side of the ball.
• 47:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But as just a connector piece and a guy who can probably who will probably knock down a shot at a decent rate, this might be somebody to kind of get now and just allow him to come along.
• 47:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is probably the perfect Oklahoma City uh pickup.
• 47:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is probably the perfect like Memphis Grizzlies pickup because those two organizations they see they see beyond the weeds, so to speak.
• 47:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, another guy who also has been really hot this summer, and people have been long awaited his debut is Jordan Smith Jr.
• 48:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now he's the easiest one to like, and I'm gonna tell you exactly why.
• 48:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He plays at Arkansas, so you know who he plays for.
• 48:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He plays for John Calipari.
• 48:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And what is John Caliperi known for?
• 48:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Getting sweet ass guards to the league.
• 48:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Right?
• 48:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: John Wall, Derrick Rose, Tyrese Maxie.
• 48:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The list goes on and on and on, right?
• 48:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Caliperry gets guards that are awesome, and then he makes them more awesome, and then they go to league and become stupid.
• 48:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: What do I like about Jordan Smith Jr.?
• 48:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's a tank.
• 48:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's 6'2, he's 200 pounds already, he's 19 years old, and Kegel have had him at as high as one.
• 48:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Sometimes you see him two.
• 49:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know what you don't see him as?
• 49:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Five.
• 49:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's in that top three, usually all the time.
• 49:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The traits that translate is that he has a relentless motor, his defense covers multiple spots, he puts real pressure on the rim, he's a demon in transition, and one uh outlet called him a transition machine.
• 49:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So, what that means is that if he is out in the open court, good luck.
• 49:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Good luck.
• 49:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And if you've seen the highlights, if you've seen the YouTube highlights, they are breathtaking because he got more bounce than else.
• 49:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, he is out there dunking on fools that are six, seven inches taller than him, and he peep he putting people's faces in the rim.
• 50:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, the uh the defense, the motor, rim pressure, he has all that concerns.
• 50:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Right.
• 50:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Obviously, three-point shooting is inconsistent.
• 50:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He is six foot two.
• 50:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Great.
• 50:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm not worried about that.
• 50:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: What we don't have is a wingspan on him as of yet.
• 50:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And when you're six foot two, sometimes when you are getting put in that pick and roll situation, you become the hunted.
• 50:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, and that is hard.
• 50:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Look at our guy Ree Shepard.
• 50:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, Ree Shepherd is not the athlete that Jordan Smith Jr.
• 50:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: is, but what I'm saying is that usually when you're six foot two, you are the guy that everybody is looking for to put you in pick and roll, and they want to pick on you.
• 50:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, as a league guard or a second guard, he has uh he is a lead guard if the ceiling goes way up.
• 51:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He is looking for his shot.
• 51:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, he's looking for Jordan Smith Jr.
• 51:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: shot more than he's looking for his teammate's shot.
• 51:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So hopefully what we see with the development, and see this is where Callick Perry is brilliant.
• 51:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is where Callick Perry really makes his bones, is that he takes guards who are usually score first guards.
• 51:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He allows them to open up the their third eye, and that vision comes along pretty well.
• 51:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So we'll see how this goes throughout this year, and we'll see where Jordan Smith Jr.
• 51:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: ends up at the end of this year with the passing and how he's feeding the teammates.
• 51:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is he sharing the sugar?
• 51:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Like I like to say, all the time.
• 51:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, can he score?
• 51:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: 100%.
• 51:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Can he defend at the point of attack?
• 52:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: 100%.
• 52:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Could he be a combo guard that starts in the league?
• 52:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: For sure he can.
• 52:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, his ceiling is a high usage two-way guard.
• 52:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That means that the passing has come along.
• 52:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, if you want to say Darius Aka and Thomas both went to the NBA after one season at Arkansas, and then we're talking about Malik Thomas, the kid that is now playing at Cleveland and busting people's asses, or whatever, pause on that.
• 52:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Um I mean, again, Caleb Perry's track record is that he takes guards like this all the time.
• 52:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He gives them to the league.
• 52:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And they're usually very successful once they get there.
• 52:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So I'm not putting it past him to kind of file down the rough edges on our guy, Jordan Smith Jr., and get him to be what he needs to be.
• 53:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now I do have a report that his wingspan is six foot nine.
• 53:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But nobody has measured that.
• 53:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's that's just a claim that is out there.
• 53:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And let me tell you something.
• 53:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He he has a six foot nine wingspan.
• 53:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: There's no doubt that this dude is gonna be able to do some things on the defensive side of the ball.
• 53:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No doubt whatsoever.
• 53:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, is he still gonna get picked on and pick and roll?
• 53:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: For sure.
• 53:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because he's dominion in size, he can still be seen over even though he has a six foot nine wingspan.
• 53:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Alright?
• 53:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But in the passing lane, he's gonna be devastating if that's true.
• 53:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We'll see how it all goes.
• 53:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now the guy who I like a lot is Bruce Branch III.
• 53:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's gonna be a BYU, and he is the purest shooter on the board.
• 54:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Yes, he is.
• 54:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, my guy can absolutely stroke it.
• 54:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: For sure.
• 54:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: 6'7, 190 pounds, he's 18 years old.
• 54:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He resec he reclassified up from the 2027, so then he can be draft eligible this year.
• 54:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He is the best shooter on the board.
• 54:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's fluid, he has a quick release, and he has elite catch and shoot profile.
• 54:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: My man can get the ball and he is off the ground, and that stroke is pretty.
• 54:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, in the summer of 2025, on the Adidas circus uh circuit, he shot 39% from three, and he averaged 16 points.
• 54:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, so he was getting it in against elite talent.
• 54:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Um, when you're putting those type of points up at the like Adidas camp, and you know who goes to those camps, the elite of the elite, it's something to think about.
• 55:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It is something to think about.
• 55:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, the questions show up about his weight and his assertiveness uh and 119 pounds.
• 55:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's uh 21 pounds under the benchmark that we're kind of looking for usually.
• 55:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But here's the thing if you can shoot it, you definitely have a spot in the league.
• 55:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, when it comes to his assertiveness, I think some of that has to do with what you have asked him to do.
• 55:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Have you asked him to get in his bag and dribble and whatever and then you know uh drive and kick to the corners?
• 55:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If you haven't asked him to do that, then you asked him to be the shooter that he is, then that's probably where we're lacking.
• 55:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But I think with BYU, he'll get opportunities to show that he can pass the ball.
• 56:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They did this with AJ DeWonsta last year, and I think that they'll do the same thing for Bruce Branch the third this year.
• 56:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So BB3 will get his chances at holding the rock, and if he can just drive and make the simple passes to the corner and what have you, I think he'll be okay.
• 56:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, if you're asking about what his role is in the league, realistically, right now, he's a starting three in D wing.
• 56:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His ceiling is a connector with secondary creation, and his star outcome is low to moderate.
• 56:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's because we haven't seen the creation yet.
• 56:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If the creation comes along, fantastic.
• 56:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, there's a record out there that his wingspan is 7'1.
• 56:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's excellent.
• 56:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know how much I love it.
• 56:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Uh, it's the hardest tool to fake, but nobody has measured him yet.
• 56:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So we'll obviously get those reports when he goes to Chicago to the draft combine or whatever the case may be.
• 57:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But, you know, maybe we'll get a better read on this as the gear goes along.
• 57:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But you know, here at Frontrunner Podcast Collective, we're gonna stay on top of this for sure for you.
• 57:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, I'm not here's my final say on it on it is that he shoots it at such an elite level, and the range is really good, and he has a a repeatable motion that is you're not gonna have to fix his jump shot.
• 57:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's what I'm trying to say.
• 57:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is a clean jump shot, this is something that can be repeated over time and time again, and he can get it off at whatever level he needs to get it off at.
• 57:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So, Bruce Grant the third, to me, is a guy that is definitely gonna come in and get you buckets.
• 57:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If the wingspan is what they say it is, he's also gonna be able to help you on defense because here's the one thing of the tape that I've seen is that he is a willing defender, he's willing to put his nose in there and defend dudes that are bigger than him, uh, dudes that are smaller than him.
• 58:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He is a guy who wants to put pressure on the ball.
• 58:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So that just the competitiveness, and then if we can just get him to like learn principles, and at BYU, he's gonna learn some principles.
• 58:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I think we're gonna get a really good uh robust panoramic view of what Bruce Branch the third really is.
• 58:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So I'm looking forward to seeing him as this season gets started.
• 58:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The last guy that we need to talk about is he's in the Big East, is Luigi Suigo.
• 59:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's a seven foot three center from Italy, 19 years old, he measured out at 7'3 without shoes.
• 59:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's already 289 pounds at the combine with a recorded 7'6 wingspan.
• 59:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He hits all the marks as far as what you want out of a center.
• 59:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Uh, he withdrew his name from the draft this last June to play at Villanova.
• 59:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Most mocks have him as a late first rounder.
• 59:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now he is eyeing the top ten, and the reason why we had him on the list is this unfortunately or fortunately, however you want to look at it, there's a guy in San Antonio by the name of Victor Wimbayama.
• 59:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, that dude is a freaking unicorn, they say he's seven foot four, he's more likely seven foot six or seven foot seven.
• 1:00:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to call it because my man keeps swearing to guy that he's seven foot four, but you look hella bigger than everybody else.
• 1:00:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But why are guys like uh Luigi Suego coming into the league?
• 1:00:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They're coming into the league because the big man is back, and you gotta have a big man to deal with Victor Winbanyama.
• 1:00:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, you can tell me, oh, it's the other bigs too, and blah blah blah, and all this other and that I got you.
• 1:00:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You're doing this because it's Victor Winbanyama.
• 1:00:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's be real about what we're talking about right now, okay?
• 1:00:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So, Victor is here now.
• 1:00:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Some some idiot called this dude the Italian Wimby, and I'm gonna tell you right now, his game is nothing like that.
• 1:01:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, so whoever's calling him this, stop doing it.
• 1:01:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because he don't have all of the skill set that Victor does.
• 1:01:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He ain't bringing the ball up the court.
• 1:01:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Can he shoot it?
• 1:01:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I seen clips that he can shoot it from the three.
• 1:01:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is he as flexible and as agile as Wimby?
• 1:01:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No, he is not.
• 1:01:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's a drop center.
• 1:01:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That is what he is.
• 1:01:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: His movement skills aren't as great as that.
• 1:01:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If he turns out to be, um, I'm trying to think, like Kessler light.
• 1:01:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Actually, Kessler can move his feet.
• 1:01:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm trying to think of like uh Nurkic.
• 1:01:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Nurkic.
• 1:01:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If he turns out to be Nurkic, we're cooking with gas.
• 1:01:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But to say that he is the Italian Victor Wambayama is disrespectful.
• 1:02:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's disrespectful.
• 1:02:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Don't say those things.
• 1:02:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, does he have an offensive game?
• 1:02:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Yes, he does.
• 1:02:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Can he re can he protect the rim?
• 1:02:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He can protect the rim if he's underneath the rim.
• 1:02:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: If he is being pulled out into space and then you're asking him to get back, that is not gonna happen.
• 1:02:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: There are gonna be some slashing wings that are gonna take it to the hole and dare him to block it.
• 1:02:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So I I expect some early foul trouble for our guy until he gets uh up to speed on the speed of the college game.
• 1:02:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And then when he gets to the pros, he's gonna need another little more time to get caught up to the speed of that of that game as well.
• 1:02:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because there's a huge jump between college and pro basketball.
• 1:02:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We all know this.
• 1:02:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Um yeah, if he turns out to be uh Zach Edy from Memphis, you that's what you're looking at, right?
• 1:03:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: With an outside shot.
• 1:03:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's not bad.
• 1:03:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So what have we learned about the top five or the top not top five, but the five guys that we looked at today?
• 1:03:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They all have lost, they all are not coming in as complete or polished prospects, they all have something to offer the game for sure when it comes to that, but is this the draft class where you know you're looking at like you're salivating over the top five and you're looking at and then you take a second glance and you're going like dude, there's some guys at like the nine position or the 11 position that I want.
• 1:03:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No, no, it's not.
• 1:03:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But if you look at the draft cleanly, if you look at the draft with pure spirit and heart, you can say, hey, this is a guy that can work on my team, this is a guy that can help us, this is a guy who can be in our top eight rotation, and he will be able to give us productive minutes wherever we think wherever we can uh develop him to, and what have you.
• 1:04:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So I think there's a lot of guys in here, and we'll get to most of them this year.
• 1:04:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Uh, we'll have our big board up sometime by the first of the year, no doubt.
• 1:04:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised about some of the guys, and here's the thing there's always a couple of dudes that come out of the woodworks that we weren't expecting.
• 1:04:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Remember the rise of Yaxel Lundigberg this year, this last year.
• 1:04:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Did anybody see that coming?
• 1:04:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No.
• 1:04:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So we'll see how it all goes.
• 1:04:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, we need to get to a topic that I waited to talk about, and you don't have to give me some space on this one because this one is going to be messy.
• 1:05:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So we need to break break down this Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum War of Words that have gone on that now has turned into some kind of telenovela that you usually see on uh Univision.
• 1:05:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:05:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: What do you call it when two guys win a title together?
• 1:05:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They stop talking, trade shots through emojis, and then the team broadcaster starts doing PR live on TV.
• 1:05:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's not a feud, that's a season of reality TV, and I've got the challenge, the love of hip hop below deck, and 90 day fiance and big brother all in one in this segment.
• 1:05:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's about to get real crazy, so buckle up, go get you a nice drink, get you a little snack because we need to talk about this Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown energy that is going on.
• 1:06:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Through social media.
• 1:06:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The story went from frigid to farce in five stages.
• 1:06:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And the sixth is booked in November 10th in Philadelphia.
• 1:06:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:06:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The laughs only work if we understand the structure first.
• 1:06:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So we're gonna go and do both of those.
• 1:06:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We'll start with the temperature from December till now.
• 1:06:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Uh organizations actually handle this because the real answer is that it isn't one on Twitter.
• 1:06:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, disclosure, because I owe you that.
• 1:06:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I spent 15 years in Boston.
• 1:06:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:06:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jalen Brown has always looked at himself as a number one.
• 1:06:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now the Celtics have told you that Jason Tatum.
• 1:06:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And they did it again when they traded Jalen Brown.
• 1:07:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That Jason Tatum is their number one.
• 1:07:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That never sat right with Jalen Brown.
• 1:07:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, when he won the Eastern Conference MVP, and then the NBA Finals MVP, he thought that was going to put some respect on his name, and that that maybe that the organization, the Boston Celtics, would look at him as at least some sort of like 1A, 1B type situation, whatever the case may be.
• 1:07:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, we're gonna fast forward a little bit.
• 1:07:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jason Tatum blows out his Achilles.
• 1:07:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They think he's done for the year.
• 1:07:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: All of that.
• 1:07:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, Stevens, we're gonna talk about the trade in one second.
• 1:07:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: When it happened, Stevens starts tearing down, Brad Stevens, there front off exec, starts tearing down the team.
• 1:08:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know, we start trading pieces off, whatever the case may be.
• 1:08:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Corzingas is the first one to go.
• 1:08:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: There's a couple others to go because this is going to be the season that maybe the Celtics don't really contend.
• 1:08:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You know who wasn't on that situation, he wasn't on that energy whatsoever.
• 1:08:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jalen Brown.
• 1:08:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jalen Brown averaged damn near 29 points a game, had his best statistical season of his career, and kept the Boston Celtics afloat, and they were an absolute contender in the East last year.
• 1:08:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, Jason Tato comes back with 16 games to go.
• 1:08:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He helps out.
• 1:08:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's not obviously he's not fully back from the Achilles injury.
• 1:08:52
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's more of a facilitator, a connector, whatever the case may be, and we get them, and we'll talk about their record, and then we'll talk about how what happened in the uh playoffs momentarily.
• 1:09:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's get to Stevens.
• 1:09:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: On the record, Stevens says of the trade that traded Jalen Brown again.
• 1:09:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We are just coming off 28.9 points a game.
• 1:09:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:09:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Stevens says the trade was about cap and usage.
• 1:09:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Off the record, league sources say that Brown was frustrated of being shopped.
• 1:09:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Both are in evidence and will be deal with this conflict.
• 1:09:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Here's how we're having fun with this.
• 1:09:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Every stage gets a show.
• 1:09:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Big brother for the blind side below deck for the captain's call 90 day fiance for who told who what love and hip hop for the shade and the challenge for the fade and the finale.
• 1:10:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Alright.
• 1:10:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So let's start.
• 1:10:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Stage one starts in December.
• 1:10:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jalen Brown with Tatum out after his Achilles says that this is his favorite season.
• 1:10:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He says again in February the same thing.
• 1:10:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That this is his favorite season.
• 1:10:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Not the championship season where he was the finals MVP.
• 1:10:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Not the season where they hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy.
• 1:10:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He and Jason Tatum.
• 1:10:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He says the season where he's alone is his favorite season.
• 1:10:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: A lot of people kind of did a side eye.
• 1:10:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You saw eyebrow raised.
• 1:10:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You saw a little, you saw the emoji where you put your hand on your chin and you go, hmm, why would he say something like that?
• 1:11:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because it's the truth to him, fool.
• 1:11:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's why.
• 1:11:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He was like, yo, I am tired of that light-skinned Negro, okay, getting all the praise, and I'm over here doing the heavy lifting.
• 1:11:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jalen Brown has been a dog since he came into this league.
• 1:11:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, I'm not throwing any shade on Jason Tato.
• 1:11:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He's spectacular.
• 1:11:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He is a great player.
• 1:11:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Uh he has a lot of skills, shoots the ball very well.
• 1:11:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Couple things that he doesn't do that Jalen does a little bit more of is that he turns he doesn't turn the ball over as much.
• 1:11:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And he seems to be able to kind of think through the game where Jalen Brown will use his superior athleticism, his strength, and his just dogged determination to get to the hole or get to his spot and be able to do things.
• 1:12:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, the organization had a problem with that, and I'll tell you why.
• 1:12:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because Jalen Brown likes to work in that mid-range situation.
• 1:12:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And you say, well, well, if he's successful, why does anybody care?
• 1:12:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Kevin Durant has made a career out of it.
• 1:12:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The difference between Kevin Durant and Jalen Brown, two things.
• 1:12:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: First of all, branding.
• 1:12:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay?
• 1:12:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: KD, even though he has his quirks, has his little situations, his little stumbles on social media, people unilaterally love KD.
• 1:12:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Because it's like, even when KD messes up, it's like, well, that's KD being KD.
• 1:12:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Alright?
• 1:12:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's a first and foremost thing.
• 1:12:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The other thing is Jalen Brown has always been salty towards the media.
• 1:12:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay?
• 1:12:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He thinks they have an agenda against him.
• 1:12:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He thinks he they have an agenda against how he does and what he does his thing.
• 1:13:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Not just on the court, but off the court.
• 1:13:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay?
• 1:13:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So you have that.
• 1:13:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, we get back.
• 1:13:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He says it's his favorite season.
• 1:13:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Do you know when Jay when Jason Tatum came back?
• 1:13:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: 16 games left in the season.
• 1:13:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: 13 and 3.
• 1:13:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That was the record with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum on the court last year.
• 1:13:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It all comes to an abrupt end in the first round when they lose to the 76ers who come back from a 3-1 deficit.
• 1:13:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay?
• 1:13:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: To win that series.
• 1:13:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Critics like Stephen A.
• 1:13:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Smith, among them, pointed out at the timing, Missoula says there is no tension that comes from these comments that Jalen Brown said about that this is his favorite year when I'm solo dolo by myself getting these buckets.
• 1:14:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And why did this light-skinned person have to come back and ruin it for me?
• 1:14:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I could have had all the shine, done what I needed to do, and led Boston to the promised land.
• 1:14:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We still don't know.
• 1:14:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We we don't know about that.
• 1:14:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We don't know if that's true or not true, but they went down 3-1 to the 76.
• 1:14:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They they lost after being up 3-1 to the 76ers.
• 1:14:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So before the trade, league sources told Boston Globe Adam uh Himmelsbach, who does great work for the Globe, said that Brown had grown frustrated with the organization approach after his career year.
• 1:14:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Scores illustrated Chris Maddox said that the Twitch streams caused headaches in the front office.
• 1:14:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Boston reportedly shopped him, including in the Giannis Anti-Tacumpo package.
• 1:14:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, if this was Big Brother, this is the diary room and everybody's smiling in the house.
• 1:15:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: While the others the other one is out of the house and the rest of the cast is going, okay, who is that for?
• 1:15:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Laugh handled from the sports hub calling caller named Rob from Rhode Island put leadership void to Missoula live on the air.
• 1:15:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Rob had notes.
• 1:15:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Then July came and the production got serious.
• 1:15:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Stage two the Cold War begins.
• 1:15:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: On July 1st, the trade is reported.
• 1:15:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: On July 6th, it is official.
• 1:15:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jalen Brown goes to the 76ers for Paul George.
• 1:15:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Two first, two seconds, Stevens Stevens, Brad Stevens, who is the front office exec, and the owner, and I want you to remember this.
• 1:16:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Bill Chisholm, the owner, the new owner, by the way, because when Wick Grossbeck was in the building, there was never a thought of trading Jalen Brown.
• 1:16:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, you can say he traded, he um he sold the team just before the kitchen got hot.
• 1:16:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You can do whatever you want, but I'm gonna tell you right now, anytime there was a report, and this is before they won their championship, because remember, there was a lot of years there where Boston was very close and did not make it.
• 1:16:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, so now we get back to Bill Chisholm, and they say, This is about optionality, and this is about cost of two max level players, high usage players.
• 1:16:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Tatum was not consulted, Steven says, Neither side was disgruntled, so Stephen says now here's the thing.
• 1:17:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: First of all, you got bucked back Paul George.
• 1:17:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: How much money does Paul George make?
• 1:17:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Oh, he makes basically the same amount of money as Jalen Brown.
• 1:17:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Oh, you didn't want to give Oh, you didn't want to give Jalen Brown the extension.
• 1:17:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Gotcha.
• 1:17:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Understand.
• 1:17:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:17:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Bill Chisholm, ton of money.
• 1:17:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Didn't want to give Jalen Brown the extension.
• 1:17:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Cause then too much money would have been caught up in two players.
• 1:17:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:17:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Gotcha.
• 1:17:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page.
• 1:17:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Then Sham Sharania says that their personal relationship was close to non-existent as you could ever have over in the last year.
• 1:17:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It was a tale of two different people.
• 1:18:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Paul Pierce asked whether Shaq and Kobe hung out.
• 1:18:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Hmm.
• 1:18:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Mm-mm.
• 1:18:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Yeah, they did for a little while.
• 1:18:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And then Kobe got sick of Shaq because he was like he's never in shape.
• 1:18:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That wasn't the case here.
• 1:18:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That wasn't the case that Jalen Brown had all these like things that kept him from doing his job.
• 1:18:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jalen Brown was always in shape.
• 1:18:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jalen Brown didn't have a ton of injuries or whatever.
• 1:18:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And I'm not saying that Tatum did.
• 1:18:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm just telling you that that's not where the wedge between these two came.
• 1:18:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The wedge between these two dudes started a long ago.
• 1:18:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: When they were talking about this being Jason Tatum's team.
• 1:18:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And that dude, Jalen Brown, took that shit to heart.
• 1:18:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He never felt that.
• 1:18:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He never felt that it was Jason Tatum's team.
• 1:19:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He always said maybe it's collectively both of ours.
• 1:19:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Um but he's always thought like when the chips were down and when they needed a bucket, he was the one getting it.
• 1:19:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So keep that in mind.
• 1:19:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The athletic Shakyah Shaquila Taylor wrote this.
• 1:19:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: As many of us have experienced at work, they were just co-workers that clock in, did their job together, and then went home.
• 1:19:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And this is where it turns into below deck.
• 1:19:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The owner and the captain make the call.
• 1:19:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The crew member gets let go in the middle of the charter.
• 1:19:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's not personal, it's the budget, it's the schedule.
• 1:19:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No yelling, no confrontation, just polite galley and a relationship shams cause as close as non existent as you could have.
• 1:20:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Nothing funny yet, and that is why it works as a setup.
• 1:20:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now here is where it turns from cold to confused.
• 1:20:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Stage three, the misunderstanding.
• 1:20:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: From August of this year 2026 to October 21st of this year.
• 1:20:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: In August, Jalen Brown asked whether he talked to Tatum since the trade.
• 1:20:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He said not really.
• 1:20:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: In October, Tatum says in a video that he just got off, caught off guard as the rest of the world.
• 1:20:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Brown says he was kept in the dark.
• 1:20:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And Steven says that he had several discussions with Jalen Brown.
• 1:20:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Somebody's not telling the truth.
• 1:21:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Um in person.
• 1:21:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That is one snippet, so verify that.
• 1:21:08
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:21:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is where it goes 90 day fiance.
• 1:21:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I told you about the move.
• 1:21:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Nobody told me about the move.
• 1:21:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We had several discussions.
• 1:21:20
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Everybody remembers the family meeting differently, and nobody's lying, apparently.
• 1:21:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And the big brother of it all is this the blind side.
• 1:21:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Both house guests say, I have no idea.
• 1:21:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The head of household says, We told everybody.
• 1:21:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And then somebody posts a hat emoji.
• 1:21:42
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And if you don't know what that means, somebody's calling cap.
• 1:21:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And if somebody's calling cap, somebody's saying somebody's lying.
• 1:21:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So Brown answers the video that Jason Tatum says, I was completely off guard by this trade.
• 1:22:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Brown responds in the most brown way possible.
• 1:22:04
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He puts up a blue cap emoji on the 23rd of October.
• 1:22:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Tatum scores 36 against the Knicks and says he has no beef.
• 1:22:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He says he called he called and texted Brown the day of the trade and says he would welcome a conversation.
• 1:22:24
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Who says the fans are telling each other to go get their park on ready?
• 1:22:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's go.
• 1:22:32
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Tatum says, own words that night, we're in in entertainment business.
• 1:22:39
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Me personally, I'm not an off-the-court entertainment guy.
• 1:22:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Taylor read that as a subtle dig into Brown's Twitch streams, and we are too old to be having our relationship discussed on X, Y, and Z on the internet.
• 1:23:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We are now in the love and hip hop phase of this situation.
• 1:23:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Somebody answer a whole video with one emoji.
• 1:23:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's not a cloud back, that's a receipt.
• 1:23:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The shade is in the hat.
• 1:23:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:23:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Then the other guy goes on in front of a camera and says, you know, I'm not into the show.
• 1:23:27
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm not into the reunion couch.
• 1:23:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm not into, you know, getting on Twitch and saying all this stuff and whatever the case may be.
• 1:23:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You can sit there and call it what you want, but we have gotten into a war of words or a war of word by one guy and a war of emojis by another guy.
• 1:23:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:23:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So where do we end up?
• 1:23:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: How does this go?
• 1:23:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is where it gets real beefy now.
• 1:23:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Stage 5.
• 1:23:59
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Farce.
• 1:24:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: October 26th to November 1st.
• 1:24:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Brown says there is no beef.
• 1:24:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Though a little lamb chop, and he says Tatum has a great PR team.
• 1:24:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That Monday, Brian Scalagrini on his radio show, says Brown asked for a trade.
• 1:24:23
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Then walks it back on TV.
• 1:24:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: A list of demands, not a trade, demand.
• 1:24:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Tuesday on XM serious XM.
• 1:24:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He says Brown has been playing the victim.
• 1:24:37
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Wednesday.
• 1:24:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Brown says he never demanded a trade.
• 1:24:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And that's he loves Cal.
• 1:24:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Meanwhile, on the Celtics own broadcast, Scalagrini jokes that if he were doing PR for Tatum, he would point out who led the league in turnovers.
• 1:24:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: A team employee on the teams broadcast said PR work out loud.
• 1:25:07
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So who's following who and what receipts are being read?
• 1:25:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I'm gonna tell you right now.
• 1:25:13
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is getting spicy.
• 1:25:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's get more into it.
• 1:25:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Check this out.
• 1:25:18
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Thursday caller or in July, a social media personality in LeBron circle claimed that he ignored each other's at Cannes Nightclub.
• 1:25:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That is a rumor.
• 1:25:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: A private life claim unverified.
• 1:25:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is between Jalen Brown and LeBron James.
• 1:25:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay, if this was where a show goes off the rails, a man cannot say no beef and then say then a season table.
• 1:25:50
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I like to enter this as into record.
• 1:25:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And the friend who only said that everyone's thinking the classic cast member friend says it on radio, then walks it back on TV, says it again the next day, then Brown answers, says, I love Scal.
• 1:26:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's the challenge.
• 1:26:14
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It's just the game.
• 1:26:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I love you.
• 1:26:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: To the guy who put his name out there for elimination.
• 1:26:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: The team employee doing PR on the team's own broadcast.
• 1:26:28
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's not a rumor.
• 1:26:30
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's a bit.
• 1:26:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So does an organization that actually deals with all this.
• 1:26:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's go into the history.
• 1:26:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This ain't the first time we've seen this.
• 1:26:40
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Shaq and Kobe has done this.
• 1:26:43
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It was ugly.
• 1:26:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Does anybody remember what if you weren't around for 2004?
• 1:26:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It was the greatest soap opera that had ever lived.
• 1:26:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This was awesome general hospital type shit going on every single day.
• 1:26:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We had people going to Kobe and Kobe saying, you know, just passive, not really passive aggressive things, just matter-of-fact things about Shaq.
• 1:27:05
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And then Shaq saying he loves his little brother and that he's still the leader of the team.
• 1:27:11
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That was what was going on in the Lakers locker room as they were going for a three-peat that never happened because the Detroit Pistons knocked off a very dysfunctional Lakers team.
• 1:27:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now we fast forward to 2018.
• 1:27:25
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jimmy Butler goes full uh whatever you want to call it.
• 1:27:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This dude went crazy.
• 1:27:33
  FROC Host Vince Carter: He asked for a trade September 18th, October 10th, he goes to Thibodeau in the GM and says that Towns and Wiggins are trash, and then proceeds to take a bunch of the third string team and goes out during that practice and absolutely destroys Carl Anthony Towns and Wiggins and says, You want to pay them before me?
• 1:28:01
  FROC Host Vince Carter: You want to pay those two guys before me?
• 1:28:06
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Walks off the court, goes into a complete interview with Rachel Nichols and says, Hey, you know, it is what it is.
• 1:28:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Want more?
• 1:28:16
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We got more.
• 1:28:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: 2018 again.
• 1:28:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: It was a good year for beef.
• 1:28:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Draymond Green and Kevin Durant get into it, and Draymond Green undresses KD on the bench on national TV.
• 1:28:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Calling him a B word, calling him like, oh, oh, you already gone.
• 1:28:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We already know you leaving, and stuff like that.
• 1:28:45
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So, we've seen a lot of beefs out here.
• 1:28:49
  FROC Host Vince Carter: But here's the bottom line.
• 1:28:51
  FROC Host Vince Carter: In 2026, the Celtics traded Jalen Brown.
• 1:28:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay.
• 1:28:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Did they trade him to the did they trade him to a different conference?
• 1:29:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No.
• 1:29:02
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They traded him not just to not even a different conference, they traded him within the division.
• 1:29:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They took back somebody who is seven years older.
• 1:29:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Paul George is 36 years old.
• 1:29:19
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They make basically around the same amount of money.
• 1:29:22
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Oh, by the way, Paul George has had extensive knee surgeries, leg issues, what have you.
• 1:29:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So it's not like you're getting apples for apples.
• 1:29:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay?
• 1:29:35
  FROC Host Vince Carter: That's that's to go there.
• 1:29:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, what's next?
• 1:29:41
  FROC Host Vince Carter: November 10th.
• 1:29:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Everybody be ready.
• 1:29:46
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Okay?
• 1:29:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We are going to have a Boston Celtics Philadelphia matchup.
• 1:29:53
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And if you think for one second, nobody's gonna be talking about this, you are absolutely crazy.
• 1:30:03
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Browns last season in Boston, 29 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists.
• 1:30:09
  FROC Host Vince Carter: In 71 games, they had 56 wins.
• 1:30:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Yes, they lost in the first round, early exit, what have you.
• 1:30:17
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Tatum is 28, and Brown just turned 30.
• 1:30:21
  FROC Host Vince Carter: They were 13 and 3 together when they were on the floor last year.
• 1:30:26
  FROC Host Vince Carter: So as far as getting as far as productivity on the floor, there was never issue.
• 1:30:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: This is literally being about whose team it is and why isn't I'm not getting enough credit from Jalen Brown's point of view.
• 1:30:47
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, Jason Tatum has been the good soldier for the Boston Celtics the whole time.
• 1:30:54
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is this a upper management situation?
• 1:30:57
  FROC Host Vince Carter: No, I do not blame Brad Stevens.
• 1:31:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I do think that the Enoch came from Bill Chisholm himself, the owner of the team, and said, Hey, we don't need to be in the second Apron.
• 1:31:12
  FROC Host Vince Carter: We need to make a decision on these two dudes.
• 1:31:15
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And since we got one dude who's kind of a little militant about the situation, and we got this other guy who is team boston all the way, great in the community, great on the commercials, and what have you, we want to put it around him.
• 1:31:34
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Let's jettison Jalen Brown off.
• 1:31:38
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Remember that book BS about oh uh analytically, Jalen Brown was the seventh best player on our team.
• 1:31:48
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Jalen Brown, who scored 27 points, seven rebounds, and five assists, is the seventh best player on your team.
• 1:31:55
  FROC Host Vince Carter: For sure?
• 1:31:56
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Are we are we there yet?
• 1:31:58
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Is that what we doing?
• 1:32:00
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Listen, I'm not here to make up your mind.
• 1:32:03
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• 1:32:09
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• 1:32:14
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• 1:32:17
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• 1:32:21
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• 1:32:22
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• 1:32:26
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• 1:32:27
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• 1:32:31
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I don't think this is over.
• 1:32:33
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• 1:32:36
  FROC Host Vince Carter: And what I think is gonna happen is that we're gonna have more war awards as we continue this season.
• 1:32:44
  FROC Host Vince Carter: At the end of the day, my best estimation is that the organization made a call and they said we need to be more physically responsible, and we do not want to be up against this luxury, this um, this uh this tax apron, this second tax apron, because it's too punitive for us to do anything with, and we need to retool on the fly.
• 1:33:10
  FROC Host Vince Carter: Now, when you start to sell us that you're saving money and flexibility with Paul George when they make basically the same amount of money, and Paul George is 36 years old, and Jalen Brown just turned 30 and doesn't have nearly the injury history that Paul George has.
• 1:33:29
  FROC Host Vince Carter: I call cap like Jalen Brown calls cap.
• 1:33:34
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• 1:33:38
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• 1:33:41
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• 1:34:13
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• 1:34:51
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• 1:35:02
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• 1:35:03
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• 1:35:41
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• 1:35:47
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• 1:35:52
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• 1:35:56
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• 1:35:57
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• 1:35:58
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