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- 0:00Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
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- 0:33you could be from high they would New Mexicomus. Where a stars? When
- 0:54we are made of stars. I'm West Carroll, joined by my good friend
- 0:57doctor Sean Cruising from Columbus State Universities Coca Cola Space Science Center. Hey Sean,
- 1:03good morning, Wes. Good to be here with you today. All
- 1:04right, we have got some big news when it comes to the Moon.
- 1:08A couple of stories that I guess are a little and one's unfortunate. The
- 1:14other is also unfortunate, just in the sense that we now have an official
- 1:19race to the Moon that is going on, and we know that we're trying
- 1:23to get back to the Moon. So one involves a mission that has not
- 1:29did not succeed as hoped in one that we've been talking about for a while
- 1:33now. And then the other involves a delay for NASA and their Moon missions.
- 1:38But let's start with the Peregrine because this was an attempt at trying to
- 1:44get a lander back on the surface of the Moon, and this is not
- 1:48going to happen. Yes, So I guess maybe the preface for both of
- 1:53these stories that's appropriate is that space is hard. It's difficult to get a
- 2:00vessel into into space in the first place, and then to land it successfully
- 2:06on another body in the Solar System is extraordinarily difficult. And if you've been
- 2:12a faithful listener to the podcast over the last several months, you've just talked
- 2:15about many failed missions to the Moon, or even missions that succeeded that had
- 2:22trouble after they were there. It's just that getting getting a vehicle to another
- 2:27planet, landing it in what they call a soft landing, and having it
- 2:31then operate correctly after the soft landing takes place is a very hard set of
- 2:37tasks to complete, and even with the best technology it does it, it
- 2:44often does not succeed. And now we've seen yet another one of those missions
- 2:47where that's true. This this mission from a company called Astrobotics, headquartered in
- 2:53Pennsylvania, it's called the peregrine failed on you know, shortly after lifting off,
- 3:00actually just getting into orbit. One of what they what they assume happened
- 3:04is one of the on board fuel tanks, which is pressurized with helium,
- 3:07which is an inert gas, was maybe over pressured by the helium and seems
- 3:14to have ruptured or exploded or something, and therefore letting all the fuel leak
- 3:19out and also damaging the spacecraft. There's very little chance of a good landing
- 3:23for the Paragrim mission. So we talk a lot about missions, and it
- 3:29seems like it often comes up when we're talking about SpaceX. But when we
- 3:32talk about missions and what could be sort of varying levels of success. Uh,
- 3:38SpaceX has had launches where they've said, this is a successful launch,
- 3:43but it blew up shortly after takeoff, or this is a successful mission even
- 3:46though it blew up the launch pad and you know, sent debris all over
- 3:50the place. When you when it comes to and you talk about this being
- 3:54hard, getting something to the surface of another world is difficult, and that's
- 4:01very much under selling it. It's next to impossible to do. But when
- 4:05you're talking about a mission that the whole objective is putting it there for it
- 4:10to do things, for science to take place, and especially when we look
- 4:15ahead and we're not quite to the story yet about NASA and delaying things for
- 4:18the Moon mission. But the eventual goal there is to put people back on
- 4:21the Moon, and that is, of course, like it has to be
- 4:25one hundred percent successful or it's not successful at all. Yeah, and you're
- 4:30right about SpaceX. We talk about the agile development process, which is an
- 4:36engineering model where they don't mind blowing up some things and breaking some eggs along
- 4:40the way to make the omelet. But in this case, there's really not
- 4:45much redeeming about the mission for at least not for Astrobotics and the Paragrin mission,
- 4:51because they're just simply not going to make their target. And even even
- 4:56if they make it to the Moon, which they might still on a glide
- 4:59path, just gonna slam into the Moon at a high rate of speed and
- 5:02not really accomplish any of the objectives. Had it been successful, it would
- 5:08have been the first successful lander from the United States in fifty years on the
- 5:15Moon, which is an interesting thing. It also would have been the first
- 5:19ever commercially built lunar lander from the US, totally commercially built, so a
- 5:26couple of milestones that now won't be achieved, at least in terms of a
- 5:30successful landing. And yeah, it's unfortunate for Paragrin. No real rays of
- 5:34sunshine here, no sort of Well, at least we learned X, Y
- 5:40and Z. I mean, they probably will take lessons back about hydrogen or
- 5:44i'm sorry, helium pressurization in their fuel tanks and how to engineer that.
- 5:48But quite honestly, that's kind of a hollow victory right there. And so
- 5:53the one thing that did work on this mission, though, that is a
- 5:56success, doesn't really have to do with Astrobotic and their lander. It has
- 6:00to do with the ride to space that they chose, because they chose to
- 6:04write up on United Launch Alliance's brand new rocket called the Vulcan Rocket, and
- 6:11the Vulcan is a heavy lift vehicle. It's ULA's newest ride to space,
- 6:19and it seems that that seems to have gone off without a fault. It
- 6:21seems to have been a very successful ride to space, even though the vehicle
- 6:28itself failed. So ULA is probably celebrating today that their Vulcan rocket was successful.
- 6:33Unfortunately, astrobotics and their peregrine payload, their lander to go to the
- 6:40Moon not gonna make it, not gonna be okay, and looks like they'll
- 6:44be back at the starting board. So one of the versions of this story
- 6:47that I have seen on social media relates to the Roddenberry family. There are
- 6:54remains of some of the Star Trek Roddenberry family, more than one member of
- 6:59the family. I guess that was going to be taken to the Moon.
- 7:02I guess there's some others as well. But now there's and I've seen headline
- 7:06after headline, well they're just going to be floating around in space now,
- 7:10which I think is a little poetic for you know, Roddenberry's but obviously not
- 7:15the objective that was intended for them to be resting on on the Moon.
- 7:21So if you see a headline talking about remains in this mission, that's what
- 7:27they're talking about. Now. Maybe it could still end up on the Moon.
- 7:30I don't know, you know, if it does have a hard hard
- 7:33landing, but it sounds like maybe they just may be drifting forever in space,
- 7:38which I think that's kind of sweet. That's a little poetic, isn't
- 7:41it. It's not. It's not the worst thing, right, I mean,
- 7:44you're going where no man has gone before, the final frontier, right,
- 7:47yes, out there in the at least it's in the Solar System's final
- 7:50frontier. But yeah, okay, sure, why not? I mean,
- 7:54yes, I think I think that anytime, anytime you put any manner of
- 8:00payload on a rocket bound for space, there has to be the understanding that
- 8:07the system might fail. And yeah, Wes, that does include living,
- 8:13breathing human beings, right, And so it's one of the reasons why NASA
- 8:18and other agencies like SpaceX that send people up to space on rockets are so
- 8:24darn careful trying to get make sure they are getting everything just right. And
- 8:30that's what I was going to say. If people are this interested in human
- 8:33remains, Yes, it certainly becomes a much bigger deal when it's live humans,
- 8:41which I guess is a good place to transition to our next story,
- 8:43which is about NASA deciding to push back the Moon mission. Now this isn't
- 8:50really it's breaking news, and then it's now released, it's now public knowledge.
- 8:54But this was kind of headed in that direction already. Yeah, so
- 8:58NASA has evaluated all of the things that are taking place that have to come
- 9:03together successfully in order to launch people to space. Right, that's what we're
- 9:07talking about now. Aboard the Artemis missions, which is the rocket they're using
- 9:15for that is the SLS, the Space Launch System, the space vehicle they're
- 9:18using is the Orion spacecraft. And so the plan is to in Orian I'm
- 9:26sorry, in the Artomis two mission, to put people in the Orion spacecraft
- 9:31and fly them around the backside of the Moon, much like Apollo eight did
- 9:35back in nineteen sixty eight, fly around the Moon, bring them back home,
- 9:41and then test all the systems aboard that spacecraft on that trip, and
- 9:46then on the subsequent Artemis three mission to actually fly them to the Moon and
- 9:52have them dock with a lander. That lander, of course, is currently
- 9:56the leading version is the SpaceX Starship, and so everything has to go right,
- 10:03not only with the Orion space capsule, not only with the Space Launch
- 10:07System, but also with the SpaceX Starship in order to complete Artemis three.
- 10:13Now, the schedule had been that Artemis two, the flight around the back
- 10:18side of the Moon, would go next year or sometime later this year,
- 10:22or rather twenty twenty four. I forgot we had a new year here twenty
- 10:24twenty four, and that Artemis three would go next year twenty twenty five.
- 10:30Both of those have now been pushed back a year, so now it looks
- 10:33like Artemis two will be delayed until at least September of twenty twenty five,
- 10:41that's the flight around the back side of the Moon, and then Artemis three
- 10:45delayed until at least September of twenty twenty six, two and a half years
- 10:50from now, which you know, if you're if you're really a space enthusiast
- 10:56and you want to see people back on the Moon, this is disappointing news.
- 10:58Also if you happen to be an Artemis astronaut waiting to go on your
- 11:03trip to space, I don't know if it's disappointing news or not. You
- 11:07want them to get it right, much like we were just talking about.
- 11:11You don't want any systems to fail. You want them to be careful.
- 11:15You want everything to pass readiness inspections, and you want the heat shields of
- 11:18your spacecraft to work, which it looks like that's kind of where the issues
- 11:24were. Some of the hardware readiness on Oriyan and SLS, and then specifically
- 11:28the heat shields on Oriyan weren't coming to pass the kinds of tests that they
- 11:35needed to in the right timeframe. So they're pumping the brakes on the whole
- 11:41Artemis missions and we're going to be a little bit longer getting people up to
- 11:46the Moon than what we expected. Well, I'm sure that you're right.
- 11:50The safety is the ultimate goal, especially if their hope is to be one
- 11:52of the people on the mission on that's actually headed to the Moon. But
- 11:58they I'm sure there's some that are disappointing. You got to have some that
- 12:01are maybe in the in the final throes of they have that window that's closing
- 12:05of their opportunity to go up. I mean, think about Olympians when you
- 12:09know we had COVID and we had delays with the Olympics, and it caused
- 12:13some of the athletes to go, I'm not going to still be able to
- 12:16do this in six months or whatever. So there's probably some looking at it
- 12:20going I guess I'm probably not going to get to go to the Moon.
- 12:24So in that sense, I'm sure there's probably some that are disappointed or maybe
- 12:28their plans for life beyond what they're doing might cause a problem for it.
- 12:33Period. But but you're right, ultimately the goal is to get them there
- 12:37safely and get them home. We've seen that happen in the history of human
- 12:41space exploration. We've seen the very thing that you're discussing, where astronauts were
- 12:46schedule for a mission, there was some kind of a setback, some kind
- 12:50of a failure that caused some long time delay, and certain astronauts have had
- 12:54to kind of drop away from certain programs or certain flights because basically what you're
- 12:58saying, life circumstances changed, or you know, there were other considerations health,
- 13:05health, and otherwise that caused them to step away. So hopefully that
- 13:07won't happen for the Artemis astronauts. Hopefully they knew, you know, when
- 13:11they selected these people, that the timeframe could slip a little bit and reasonable
- 13:16accommodations. I certainly, we certainly don't have any information on this podcast of
- 13:20anybody looking to drop away, but one could imagine that if the time frame
- 13:24began to drag on too long, that you might have those kinds of unfortunate
- 13:28results. And I'm not necessarily even speaking specifically to these next two missions.
- 13:33I'm just thinking about the missions beyond that, because there's probably going to be
- 13:37some that we're hoping to be part of, you know, subsequent missions beyond
- 13:41Artemis three, Uh, that are maybe looking at it going all right,
- 13:46maybe I'm not going to be able to be on one of those down the
- 13:48line if it gets pushed back, you know anymore. Especially Yeah, one
- 13:54of the Artemis goals, one of their stated goals, in fact, it's
- 13:58even a slogan of the program is back to the Moon for good, right
- 14:01back to the Moon to stay basically. And so this is a first step
- 14:07toward lunar colonization. And you have people who are working on those concepts and
- 14:09ideas, astronauts who are certainly you know, at least hoping to be selected
- 14:15for those kinds of missions and doing some training and some development in those programs.
- 14:20And now these delays, yeah, they could they could disrupt some of
- 14:22those kinds of plans and some of the some people's careers. All right,
- 14:26Well, that's disappointing but understandable. For that story, Let's move over to
- 14:33another big win for the James Web Space Telescope. Yeah, lots of fun
- 14:37stories coming out of New Orleans, Louisiana. You might not think of New
- 14:43Orleans as a mecca for astronomical output. However, this week the American Astronomical
- 14:50Society Meeting is taking place down there, and so all of the astronomers around
- 14:56the world, but mostly from the US, are gathering at the two hundred
- 15:01and forty third American Astronomical Society Meeting in New Orleans, Louisiana. And so
- 15:05if you've seen a preponderance of space related stories in the last week, it's
- 15:11probably because all of these news releases are being put forth because all of the
- 15:16astronomers are gathered together and they're sharing their results. This is one of those
- 15:20stories. So NASA's James Webspace telescope researchers using that telescope have just put out
- 15:26a really cool image of a brown dwarf star. This is a star that
- 15:33is they considered a failed star in the sense that it didn't quite have enough
- 15:39mass to turn on thermonuclear fusion. But it also has properties that don't really
- 15:45allow it to be a planet, so it's kind of in this weird gray
- 15:48zone between a really big gas giant planet and a really small star. So
- 15:54they call it a failed star, but its official designation the term is a
- 15:58brown dwarf. So brown dwarf are actually putting off radiation. They're putting off
- 16:03light in the form of infrared. And that's why James Webspace telescope is good
- 16:07at observing them, because it's an infrared telescope. And so this brown dwarf
- 16:11happens to be located about forty light years from Earth, which in the grand
- 16:17scheme of things, is more or less right in the backyard. It's not
- 16:19that far away. I wouldn't want to walk forty light years, but you
- 16:23know, in terms of the size of the galaxy, it's not all that
- 16:26far away. And so the interesting thing is there appears to be aurora phenomenon
- 16:32or northern lights. Think about those things taking place in the atmosphere of this
- 16:38brown doar star. Now we've seen northern light phenomenon certainly on Earth. We've
- 16:42seen it also in Jupiter and Saturn, and we've even seen it around moons
- 16:48like Saturn's moon Enceladus. But in all of those cases it's due to the
- 16:55Sun in our own solar system ejecting particles and off into space. Those particles
- 17:02in radiation pieces interact with the atmospheres of these worlds. We've just described,
- 17:08and particularly the magnetic field and then the atmosphere of those worlds, and that
- 17:12causes the glowing air that we see both in our atmosphere also in the atmospheres
- 17:18of Jupiter, et etc. So that's great. But this brown dwarf that
- 17:25they now have images from JWST that apparently show it having aurora phenomenon, it's
- 17:30not close to another star, so, in other words, it doesn't have
- 17:34something like the Sun that's providing a stream of charged particles that could be responsible
- 17:41for the aurora. So that means that this thing may have some other source
- 17:48of particles generating the northern lights or the aurora phenomenon in its atmosphere. And
- 17:56researchers from this project have said this. There's a quote. If you want
- 18:00to read about this, check out space dot com. By the way,
- 18:03does this we have seen this kind of phenomenon in planets with a nearby star
- 18:07that can heat the stratosphere, but seeing it in an object with no obvious
- 18:11external heat source is wild. Again a quote from one of the scientists working
- 18:15on the project. So the whole notion is something else has to be causing
- 18:22the interaction between particles and atmosphere. That generate northern lights. So obviously,
- 18:27one of the things that could be is that there's just a star we don't
- 18:30see, right, there's some source of radioactive particles coming from some star that
- 18:37we haven't detected yet. But that's not likely because the area has been mapped
- 18:41and they don't see one. So another thing could be it could just be
- 18:45a stream of particles coming in from interstellar space, in other words, not
- 18:49necessarily unidentified single star, but kind of a river of particles flowing in between
- 18:56stars that this brown dwarf just happens to be in the stream of, which
- 19:00is very interesting. Or it could be some internal process within the brown dwarf.
- 19:07Maybe the brown dwarf has some kind of an energetic process in its internal
- 19:11areas that is generating particles streaming up to the neosphere of that object and then
- 19:18causing it to glow. Or finally, one other piece of conjecture is maybe
- 19:22it has some nearby moon that's being ripped apart by gravitational forces, and the
- 19:29particles from the nearby moon are feeding into the magnetic field around this brown dwarf
- 19:34and then into the upper atmosphere, causing particles to glow. So all of
- 19:38these are what we would call swags, and a swag is an acronym for
- 19:44some wild guess to fill in the a for yourself. So some wild guests
- 19:48about what this could possibly be. But it's an interesting story, and it's
- 19:52a new phenomenon, and it's newly released from THEAS meeting in New Orleans,
- 19:57Louisiana. Any of those, I guess would be a fascinating reason for it
- 20:03coming up after a quick break, America's most experienced astronaut hangs up her suit.
- 20:11We'll talk about that right after this, all right. So when I
- 20:37saw this headline, I thought, oh my gosh, Peggy Whitson is retiring
- 20:41and they're retiring her jersey into the rafters. But that's not exactly what's going
- 20:48on here. I mean, she's already retired on one space suit for to
- 20:53go into the private sector, but now she's retiring a different one. But
- 20:56this is a little different than what it seems like. She's not out of
- 21:00the business yet, No is the answer. So but the clever headline writers
- 21:06at collectSPACE dot com wrote up an interesting headline, and so if you see
- 21:11it, you might think the very thing that Wes just said, which is
- 21:14that Peggy is going to step away from spaceflight in general, because the headline
- 21:18read something to the effect of America's most experienced astronaut hangs up her suit,
- 21:22And certainly, I, like Wes, when I read that, I thought,
- 21:25Oh, it is Peggy Whitson retiring, Ladies and gentlemen. Peggy Whitson
- 21:30is a true American hero. She is the US astronaut who has spent the
- 21:34most days in space, six hundred and seventy five days in orbit aboard three
- 21:41different NASA missions and one private space flight from the company called Axiom. That
- 21:48space flight is the AX two mission. So Peggy has a substantial amount of
- 21:55space experience. And so when I read that headline, like Wes just described,
- 21:59I thought, wow, is she going to actually retire? But no,
- 22:03hanging up the suit in this case is literal. It's a suit that
- 22:07she wore a space aboard the AX two mission, and it's going to be
- 22:11hanging up at a place where you can go see it at the Johnson Space
- 22:17Centers Space Center, Houston Museum, and Peggy's Axiom flight suit is going to
- 22:22be on display for a period of time and you can actually go see it.
- 22:26Turns out Oddly enough, I happen to be going out to Houston this
- 22:30weekend. I might have to pop in there and check out Peggy Suit,
- 22:33So that might be something I do as a field trip this very weekend.
- 22:38But some kind of fun things about Peggy. Peggy is again a person who
- 22:47spent a lot of time in space. She's also done some other very adventurous
- 22:49things, and she is an astronaut for a commercial space company, which is
- 22:56just a very interesting thing. A quote from Peggy says this, I just
- 23:00I'm just loaning it so folks can see that commercial space, like Axiom,
- 23:04is in work now and is real. I wanted people to be able to
- 23:08see it and be inspired not just by NASA's space program, but but what
- 23:14commercial space is doing as well. So again, Peggy kind of kind of
- 23:18promoting the company Axiom, which is no problem, she works for them,
- 23:22right, but also just promoting the endeavor of commercial space flight in general.
- 23:27And so yeah, a fun thing. By the way, the SpaceX I'm
- 23:30sorry, the Axiom ax two suits. I said the word SpaceX because they
- 23:36flew to space aboard a SpaceX rocket. By the way, it just kind
- 23:38of got in my head. But the ax two suits are very cool looking
- 23:42if you check them out, they're very stylish, right, So check out
- 23:47Peggy Suit. You can see it online or you can go down to Space
- 23:48Center Houston and check it out for yourself. I love her quote though,
- 23:52and I think that's such an important stage in this as we're seeing more and
- 23:59more companies getting involved in the business itself. It is important and I think
- 24:04that's a great quote where she just says, I wanted people to be able
- 24:07to see it and know that it's real, that this commercial endeavor side of
- 24:11this is in work now and it's real. It's a great quote. We
- 24:17got another story here, and I'd always like when we get these kinds of
- 24:19stories because they basically sort of show the process the way science just kind of
- 24:26works, science in motion, science and progress. And this story sort of
- 24:30relates to We've had a few of these in the last couple of months where
- 24:33it's kind of changed the way people understand science understands the way certain things take
- 24:37place, especially when it comes to the formation of planets around young stars.
- 24:44What we want to know when we look at this as a group of astronomers
- 24:47worldwide, we want to know a couple of things. We want to understand
- 24:51the process by which planets form and make sure we're right about that. And
- 24:56we have certain mathematical models that we apply and try to correlate them with actual
- 25:03visual observations and make all that stuff work out. So we want to make
- 25:07sure our models are correct about the way we think planets form. But we
- 25:11also want to know how fast planets form because they are the locations where we
- 25:17might find life in the galaxy or around other stars. So understanding that process
- 25:25of star formation and planet formation is really important for us to understand how areas
- 25:30in the galaxy that can potentially support other life forms also form, and so
- 25:37this is an important question for the lives of stars, but also for the
- 25:41lives of living critters that might be out there amongst the stars. So it's
- 25:45kind of a twofold investigation. You can check out this story, by the
- 25:48way, on Universe today dot com. The headline is the youngest planetary disc
- 25:53ever seen has been identified. And the interesting thing about that is not just
- 26:00how young it is. By the way, some of the objects discovered in
- 26:04the study are potentially less than ten thousand years old, which ten thousand years
- 26:11sounds like a long time, but on the lifetime scale of stars is a
- 26:15very very short time, and so that's one interesting thing we found these discs
- 26:22around those very young stars. However, maybe the more interesting part is that
- 26:26within some of these discs, the researchers from Yale that performed these observations found
- 26:33evidence of planets already forming and leaving their telltale fingerprints within these discs. There
- 26:41are gaps and rings in the discs themselves around these very young what they call
- 26:48class zero objects, the very youngest of planetary discs around super young stars,
- 26:55and even at the very very young age of less than ten thousand years old,
- 27:00we are finding rings and gaps in those in those discs that indicate that
- 27:07planets have already begun. For me, now, with that piece of evidence,
- 27:14it challenges the mathematics used in the modeling of how we think that planets
- 27:19and stars form. It's just too fast. It's happening faster than the mathematics
- 27:26of our models can explain. Now, one of my colleagues here at Columbustate
- 27:32University, doctor Rosa Williams, and I. She and I were just having
- 27:34a conversation just yesterday talking about various models and how we you know, how
- 27:40we use them in science, and it's a great reminder to everybody that scientists
- 27:45know this. All models are wrong, but some models are useful. Right.
- 27:52It's just kind of an axiom that we use right all models. We
- 27:56know that every model is not exactly right and can be chat. It's just
- 28:00that some models, well, they seem to replicate what we see in observation
- 28:04closely enough that the model is useful for some period of time until we have
- 28:10to discard it for a better model. So really every model is like a
- 28:15snowflake on a hot sidewalk. We know it's going to evaporate, but for
- 28:18some period of time, some of those models can actually be useful. Our
- 28:22modeling of the Solar system formation has been useful for a number of years,
- 28:27although tweaks are certainly being made to it all the time. However, this
- 28:32particular observation might challenge everything we put into that model in the first place,
- 28:37which means it might be time to chuck the whole model and start over with
- 28:41some new ideas. A very interesting time in the continued exploration of space,
- 28:48and particularly for those people who try to model the formation of the Solar system.
- 28:52All models are wrong, Some models are wronger than others. Is that
- 28:56fair? Yes? Indeed, sir, all right, let's talk about at
- 29:02the Coca Cola Space Science Center where Saturday, you guys have a home game
- 29:06Astronomy Night. Have an Astronomy Night here at Space Science Center. When we
- 29:11have what we call a home game, they are here on our facility site.
- 29:15We also will take people inside our planetarium and do a tour of the
- 29:19nighttime sky. That's going to be hosted by doctor Rosa Williams. Though the
- 29:23aforementioned doctor Rose Williams, she'd love to talk with you about models and the
- 29:26wrongness of them. She will absolutely talk about wrong models because like me,
- 29:33she and she and I are both observational astronomers, and our whole reason for
- 29:37living is to shoot down theoretical astronomers and their models. So we like to
- 29:41do that anyway. So, but you can join doctor Williams and the astronomy
- 29:45team, which consists of lots of students from clumb State University's Coca Cola Space
- 29:49Science Center and the Earth and Space Sciences Program, and they will set up
- 29:53some telescopes for you and show you the actual nighttime sky. This Saturday evening,
- 29:59we have a a variety of these programs throughout the year. You can
- 30:02find out that list of nights on our website. You can visit www dot
- 30:07CCSSC dot org. Charlie Charlie SamSam Charlie dot org. You can go to
- 30:12that website and find the new schedule, the newly posted twenty twenty four Astronomy
- 30:18Nights schedule. Some of them are home games, which means they happen here,
- 30:21but we also do astronomy nights at our local state parks, both at
- 30:25Providence Kyne State Park and the Franklin Delano Roosevelt State Park just north of town.
- 30:30And you can find out all of the dates where we'll be setting up
- 30:33our telescope showing people the nighttime sky. Once again, just visit the website
- 30:37www dot cc SSC dot org and we thank you for listening, and we'll
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