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Jaguars Happy Hour | Week 1 Overview · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is victory Monday, September eighth. This is Jackwars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home
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  Speaker 2: Pe no idea what that even means? Well, come in.
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  Speaker 2: It is the first hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented
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  Speaker 2: by Jet Hoold Loans from the Hyundai Studios of the
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  Speaker 2: Middle of Electric Center. We're on ten ten Xlamjaguars dot Com,
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube and here's What's coming up presented by Deep
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars, Jags twenty six Panthers. Ten will recapital including
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  Speaker 2: the two hundred yard rushing day for the Jags, the
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  Speaker 2: defense with three takeaways, will keep it real about a
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  Speaker 2: relationship between a quarterback and a receivers in the second
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  Speaker 2: hour and fanatics fan questions plenty of those submitted on
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  Speaker 2: social media today, and we will go around the National
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  Speaker 2: Football League at the end of the show. Austin Lane
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  Speaker 2: with us here in studio. What's up Boston?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, can you be a favorite? Q? Smile really
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  Speaker 4: big for me, just so I can see if you
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  Speaker 4: look like I don't know what it means. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 4: never mind. I mean a giant smile and you might
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  Speaker 4: sell it off, but that's all I'm gonna say.
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  Speaker 5: You don't know what they are, do you?
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea, Pete Prisco CBS Sports. I do not.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's some kind of like do you remember I
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  Speaker 6: had like Cabbage Patch kids back in the day, or.
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  Speaker 5: The dolls or whatever, you know, That's what they are.
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  Speaker 6: They're like those things where they collect them, they become
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  Speaker 6: big collectibles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I have a friend, I think okay, I have a
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  Speaker 4: friend whose daughter. I think they have like twenty of
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  Speaker 4: them now. Like it's just that they're kind of like
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  Speaker 4: they're like the modern day like ferbies or like you
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  Speaker 4: remember ferbies barely barely. Yeah, they're kind of like ferbies.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 4: Just every every kid's got these things now, So don'
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  Speaker 4: don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 3: Man, wait, wait, way past.
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  Speaker 5: That way over your head, and nor do you look
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  Speaker 5: like any of them.
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  Speaker 2: The appreciate that, Pete, is not the first conflict you've
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  Speaker 2: ever given me. Pete, I think it might be.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you're a little old to look like one.
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  Speaker 5: Aren't they kids? They're monsters and most of them have air, don't.
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  Speaker 4: They the ones i've seen them, just yeah, they they're
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  Speaker 4: very unsettling.
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  Speaker 3: We'll just leave it at that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, hair.
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  Speaker 2: Jags win Pete. The Jags did most everything that they
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  Speaker 2: had promised all ob season. They were physical, they were
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  Speaker 2: attacking on defense and taking the ball away, and they
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  Speaker 2: got a winning result.
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  Speaker 3: How about that they did?
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  Speaker 6: And you know, I watched it take today and and
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  Speaker 6: there's a lot to like. There's still some major concerns,
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  Speaker 6: but there's a.
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  Speaker 5: Lot to like. And I thought, you know, the quarterback
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  Speaker 5: was better.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you put up gaundy numbers or anything, and
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  Speaker 6: he missed a couple of throws, but he seemed comfortable
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  Speaker 6: in the offense.
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  Speaker 5: The offensive line was really good. I mean I didn't
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  Speaker 5: think they would be as good as they were.
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  Speaker 6: That goes to show you, by the way, what coaching
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  Speaker 6: means in this league. I know there's two new guys
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  Speaker 6: on that offensive line, but Cleveland is so much better
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  Speaker 6: than he was a year ago.
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  Speaker 5: And I thought Anton Harrison was much better than he
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  Speaker 5: was a year ago. So coaching really matters.
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  Speaker 6: And their coach well and they look like their coach
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  Speaker 6: Well Etn ran the ball nice and I think offensively
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  Speaker 6: it wasn't pretty. It was just the way Liam Cohne
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  Speaker 6: wants to do it is he wants to run the football,
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  Speaker 6: and they ran the football.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when we talk about this game, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this was a game that obviously Pete had as a lock,
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  Speaker 4: so one to one with the locks, I wasn't ready
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  Speaker 4: to quick go down.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't do it.
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  Speaker 4: I check it out because I didn't know what we're expecting, right,
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  Speaker 4: because maybe I have a little PTSD In games at
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  Speaker 4: home that you're supposed to win. In the past, this
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  Speaker 4: team hasn't delivered, and this team I felt like delivered
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  Speaker 4: in spades on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Was it perfect? Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 4: But I think the most important part, and you know
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  Speaker 4: this goes back to when you know Liam Cohen made
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  Speaker 4: his appearance and we talked about James Glass and everything,
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  Speaker 4: like they want to be a physical team and say
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  Speaker 4: your physical team is one thing, but actually backing it
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  Speaker 4: up and going out there and running the football like
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  Speaker 4: they did with Chavistn and company. It showed they actually
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  Speaker 4: walked the walk and that was refreshing to see.
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  Speaker 6: Defensively, when you basically they limited him to three points.
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  Speaker 6: I mean they got the touchdown late in garbage time,
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  Speaker 6: but they played it helps at Bryce Young stinks. I
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  Speaker 6: mean that's always good to see too.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's awful. He was terrible.
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  Speaker 2: He was taking steps last season. Pete, what happened?
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  Speaker 6: What did I say about that last week? I said,
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  Speaker 6: everybody's getting fools gold on that. I mean, think about this.
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  Speaker 6: He on fourth down, he throws.
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  Speaker 2: It away into the stands.
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  Speaker 5: What are you doing? On the pick six?
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  Speaker 6: Was one of the worst plays I've ever seen, and
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  Speaker 6: that was a hold in the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, that was no question about it. But
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  Speaker 5: what are you doing? And he missed it.
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  Speaker 6: Bunch of throws he just they get him outside the pocket.
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  Speaker 6: He had to jump up a couple of times to
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  Speaker 6: make throws.
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  Speaker 5: Did you guys see that?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, he pops up throws. Can't nineteen fifty
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  Speaker 2: five jump pass.
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  Speaker 4: But but also I think it was a great game
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  Speaker 4: plan though, you know, from coach camp in preparation for
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  Speaker 4: Bryce Young, because the game plan was clear, you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: send the house. Maybe you're not gonna you know, you're
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  Speaker 4: not gonna generate pressure with four guys. So you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: blitz linebackers, corner safeties and everything, and you're gonna make
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  Speaker 4: Bryce Young very uncomfortable, and you're gonna try to make
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  Speaker 4: Bryce Young beat you with his arm. And I think
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  Speaker 4: a classic example of that would have been it was
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  Speaker 4: the rub route with the old dude on her rent
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  Speaker 4: thro Yeah, right exactly. Now, if that's Joe Burrow and
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  Speaker 4: t Higgins, that's probably a touchdown, right, But Bryce Young
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  Speaker 4: doesn't make the throw heder throws it a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was who was the Jordan Lewis Lewis Lewis,
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  Speaker 4: he kind of recovered with chill coverage, knocks the ball down.
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  Speaker 4: Great play right now against the Bengals.
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  Speaker 3: Can you do that?
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 4: But the point is is that you knew what you
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  Speaker 4: had coming in with Bryce Young. You know, you had
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  Speaker 4: to stop Chuba Hubbard. And I think for the most
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  Speaker 4: part now interior wise, defensive line wise, still some things
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  Speaker 4: to improve on, right like that, they were decent in
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  Speaker 4: stopping the run. But when you got Chase Brown, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with it with Cincinnati, it could be a difference maker.
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  Speaker 6: And again I watched the tape today and you mentioned
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  Speaker 6: the interior that defensive line.
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  Speaker 5: That's still the major concern of the defense. Now.
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  Speaker 6: They all had moments where they made a play or two,
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  Speaker 6: but there was nothing like where anybody was dominating up front.
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  Speaker 6: I found Saunders made a couple of plays, Hamilton made
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  Speaker 6: a couple of plays. You know, Armstead did a couple things,
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  Speaker 6: but nothing where you came away from and you went, wow,
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  Speaker 6: they're okay in the middle of that line. So I'm
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  Speaker 6: still worried about it. I'm still worried about that. You know,
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  Speaker 6: if they had you know, Mason Smith was inactive, he
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  Speaker 6: was and I think Mason Smith was inactive and Lars
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  Speaker 6: park is the way he played. The last preseason game
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  Speaker 6: against Miami went very good. Did he get off any blocks?
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  Speaker 6: So that's something to keep an eye on going forward.
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  Speaker 6: You know, does he play when do they play him?
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  Speaker 5: If they play him.
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  Speaker 6: They went with the two veterans, and the two veterans
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  Speaker 6: are sick, big body guys, but they're not going to
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  Speaker 6: push the pocket in any way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 4: One of the biggest things I've been waiting for, man,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I got made hours last night. I was
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  Speaker 4: ready to come in here. You know, I'm happy out
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  Speaker 4: on everything. But I've been meaning to ask you this question.
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  Speaker 4: What were your thoughts on the fourth down call? Because
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, I sat there thinking, like it,
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  Speaker 4: don't do it. I didn't like it either. I mean
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  Speaker 4: shout out to Liam Callen because hindsight, being twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 4: he had the cojones to call it. But in the
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  Speaker 4: time I was like, man, if you don't get this,
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  Speaker 4: you're putting your defense behind the eight ball. And also
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  Speaker 4: you got Bryce sung having some confidence.
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  Speaker 2: And liams and Day said, yeah, we were all in
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  Speaker 2: in them.
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  Speaker 5: Fourth and fourth and one right from the thirty seven?
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  Speaker 5: Is that what it was?
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  Speaker 2: It's about right, Yeah, I'm looking it up.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah I would, I'll be honest with you. Kudos to him,
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  Speaker 6: but I wouldn't have done it. But needless to say,
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  Speaker 6: he pulled out his favorite play that they run twelfth.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, you know, that play has become like the
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  Speaker 6: bubble stream that they ran in the last regime.
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  Speaker 5: How many times did they run that play yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: At least a touchdown? That touchdown one of those that
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  Speaker 2: was like a reverse kind of that.
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  Speaker 5: Was one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of Yeah, it was at least right there because.
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  Speaker 5: I think they Brown ran you might have run a
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  Speaker 5: second one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So.
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  Speaker 6: That play is becoming And and by the way, when
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  Speaker 6: you watch the Rams Sean McVay tree, which Liam's now
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  Speaker 6: a part of, they all run that play.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they run it a couple of different times.
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  Speaker 5: It's a big it's a part of the part of
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  Speaker 5: the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Two carries Brian Thomas one, there's three right there you go.
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  Speaker 4: So here's what I thought about that play because obviously
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  Speaker 4: you have to have it, and we've been hearing all
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  Speaker 4: camp physical, physical, physical, So I'm like, oh, okay, well
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  Speaker 4: I have PTSD from last season.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna run power, you're gonna get stopped behind the
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  Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, you're gonna turn the ball over. Like
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  Speaker 4: that's what I was expecting to see. I wasn't expecting
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  Speaker 4: that the Jets sweep there. And I think what the
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  Speaker 4: genius of it was because one sometimes coaches getting their
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  Speaker 4: own heads right and ego takes over where it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: we gotta pound the rock here it's fourth and one.
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  Speaker 4: I got come from an offensive line that wasn't necessarily
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  Speaker 4: saying our offensive line's been their defensive line. The Panthers
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  Speaker 4: got out smarted there. And the reason they got out
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  Speaker 4: smarted was because if you go back to the preseason
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  Speaker 4: games and you look at that jet sweep. I remember
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  Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh game. It was a three by one formation
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  Speaker 4: and then they ran the jet sweep to Brown. Well,
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  Speaker 4: this time was two by two and you had two
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  Speaker 4: tight ends on one side and you had two wider
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  Speaker 4: series on the other side. You bring over Brown and
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  Speaker 4: the Panthers don't shift in time. You can see them
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  Speaker 4: trying to call it over, but the line doesn't shift
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  Speaker 4: and the linebackers don't shift, so you actually you had
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  Speaker 4: the advantage there. Now, I'm not sure if it was
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  Speaker 4: like a check with me, where if they do shift,
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  Speaker 4: do you hand the ball off? But I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was a brilliant.
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  Speaker 3: Play because which one are you talking about?
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  Speaker 5: The time?
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  Speaker 2: This is it?
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  Speaker 4: No, this is the fourth and one this is the Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was a genius play call because they
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  Speaker 4: had that advantage. They had the numbers from the two
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  Speaker 4: tight ends on the right side of the ball, and
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  Speaker 4: Brown obviously he tripped a little bit, but he gets
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  Speaker 4: the first down.
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  Speaker 6: But but but if Trayvon Morigg plays the play the
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  Speaker 6: right way, he stuffs it in the backfield. He kind
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  Speaker 6: of got caught number seven, the safety, he got kind
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  Speaker 6: of caught in no man's land.
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  Speaker 5: He's got it.
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  Speaker 6: If he blests in there, makes the play to play stuffed,
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  Speaker 6: then they're at the thirty five yard line and off
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  Speaker 6: they go, and they might be a different game. So, look,
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  Speaker 6: he made the decision. Kudos to him for making the decision.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't have made the decision. And here's the other
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  Speaker 6: part of that.
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  Speaker 5: All that led to is three points.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they had to overcome three penalties on the drive
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  Speaker 2: to stay out there to keep it.
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  Speaker 5: That's the point of it though.
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  Speaker 6: That's why in my mind that I'm with probably with
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  Speaker 6: Austin on this one.
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  Speaker 5: When you go for it there, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 6: You're going for it now you still need forty yards
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  Speaker 6: forty forty more sixty more yards to go get a touchdown,
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  Speaker 6: and maybe you need thirty twenty five to go get
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  Speaker 6: a field goal. So you're it's not like you're going
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  Speaker 6: for it and you're in their end and away you go.
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  Speaker 5: You're in your own end.
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  Speaker 6: Still you still need to go And so I wouldn't
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  Speaker 6: have done it. But if that's who he's gonna be
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  Speaker 6: then be true to yourself. And sometimes when your team's
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  Speaker 6: not that good and I was saying, this team's not
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  Speaker 6: that good, but the Lions used to do it.
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  Speaker 5: A lot more when they were on their way up
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  Speaker 5: than they did when they got there.
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  Speaker 6: And so sometimes you take those chances when you know
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  Speaker 6: your team isn't that good.
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  Speaker 4: Well and tackle Pete's point here, because in that situation,
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  Speaker 4: you have to ask, is the juice worth the squeeze?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? Because if you don't convert it, now you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: bring you out.
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  Speaker 4: And I've been in those situations where you know a
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  Speaker 4: team goes through and out right away, or a team
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  Speaker 4: goes fourth down, they don't convert, and now we're out
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  Speaker 4: there on defense, right, And mentally it's frustrating, right because
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  Speaker 4: this offense supposed to go out there and score, is
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  Speaker 4: supposed to have our back. It's complimentary football. It's not
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  Speaker 4: playing complimentary football when you go four and out and
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden your defense is kind of pinned
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  Speaker 4: behind and that it's gonna at least be a field goal.
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  Speaker 4: But once again, was the juice worth to squeeze?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 4: They got three points out of it due to a
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  Speaker 4: lot of self inflicted you know, penalties and everything, but
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  Speaker 4: that's a play right there where if you convert that
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  Speaker 4: that big momentum swing right there, you get the first down.
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  Speaker 2: You got to put in the end zone. Justify it right.
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  Speaker 6: But again though Austin's if you get it, yay, it's
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  Speaker 6: a momentum thing, we still got to go sixty yards.
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  Speaker 5: And put in the end zone. So there's I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: maybe you know what we can do.
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  Speaker 7: JP.
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  Speaker 5: We'll call in on Thursday and ask him what he
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  Speaker 5: thinks about it.
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  Speaker 2: On his Coaches, Oh boy, you heard the news.
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  Speaker 5: That it's not it's not a coaches show anymore.
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  Speaker 6: It's Tony Boselli's show with James Gladstone once in a
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  Speaker 6: while the head coaches.
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  Speaker 2: He couldn't stay away from radio Pete.
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  Speaker 5: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I told him just to come back and do happy
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  Speaker 2: our joined Austin and I so just do a four
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  Speaker 2: on the show.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's first off, a couple things about that.
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  Speaker 6: Dacelli loves to hear himself talk.
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  Speaker 5: We know that we were a part of that too.
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  Speaker 6: Is there really that much that in a week where
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  Speaker 6: the preparation that the coach can't take a half hour
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  Speaker 6: out of his day. I mean that that's my and
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  Speaker 6: I you know me, whatever you if you think that
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  Speaker 6: you have to do it that way and the organization
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  Speaker 6: feels I have to do it that way, fine me. Personally,
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  Speaker 6: I don't get it. I think the coach should show
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  Speaker 6: up and do his half hour. And I don't think
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  Speaker 6: he made that decision. I think they made the decision.
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  Speaker 6: So if that's the case, oh well, But don't you
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  Speaker 6: think the fans like to hear the coach?
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  Speaker 2: I think they. I think they have always liked to
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  Speaker 2: hear the coach.
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  Speaker 6: Didn't Urban, didn't Urban do of all people or even
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  Speaker 6: mid ind the coaches, shimn did one.
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  Speaker 2: Two days after the video incident came out and first
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  Speaker 2: about it, Yes.
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  Speaker 8: Me, And by the way, the lunatic back in the
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  Speaker 8: day who could try every single damn thing in the
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  Speaker 8: entire building and worried about the carpet and the painting
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  Speaker 8: on the walls and the ticketing and everything else, he
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  Speaker 8: did it.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't like to do it, but he did.
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  Speaker 6: It, the lunatic being Tom Coughlin. And yeah, I say that,
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  Speaker 6: by the way, with much respect, because he did everything
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  Speaker 6: and he found a way to do it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. I just this is me. That's just
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how you guys feel about it. And
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  Speaker 5: JP probably can't say anything. Austin, I don't know how
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  Speaker 5: you feel about it.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm a freelancer, man. I'll see how it is.
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  Speaker 5: Theold being the coaches show, Well.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I think it goes like this. I
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: think you have momentum right now, right, and I think
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: when you talk about the new regime coming in, it
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: seems like there's a lot of communication.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of peeling behind the current which we.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Haven't seen before.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: So you're trying to get fans involved, You're trying to
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: get medium like it's supposed to be a conglomerate, right,
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: And I think a great way to keep echoing that
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: message is, yeah, to maybe come out and just you know,
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: talk to fans and everything, or at least give some
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: sort of say of, hey, this happened in the game.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Is what we saw. We're on the Cincinnati.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: It doesn't take much, right, but a little effort there
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: there wouldn't be bad. But maybe he's prepping for that
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: stingy car, that stingy Cincinnati Bengals Defense company.
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: Maybe they were worried that they would couldn't have enough
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: people in this to fill up sell the seats. They
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: don't want to get anybody sold all. I mean, the
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: game wasn't sold out or anythingting. I mean the passion
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: in the city is coming back and keep keep the
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: momentum going.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: Let the coach become who he is. You know, it's
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: it's a half hour. Look, we know this in football.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: Let's be real.
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: It's paralysis by analysis, you know, for all and everybody.
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: You look, everybody works hard in the National Football League,
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: but you get to a certain point during the week
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: on Thursday the Hayes and Thursday evening the Hayes and
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: the Barn.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: Baby, it's done.
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: The game plans in the Hayes and the bar. So
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: half hour is that what it is? Wasn't a half hour?
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: But Pete to kind of go against your argument a
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: little bit here, and I guess kind of play a
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: devil's advocate. I mean, you have a guy who's this
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: is a first year of coach. This This isn't Tom
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Kaughlin who's been experienced. This isn't Jack del Rio, It's
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: not you know, I mean, Urban Meyer was kind of
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: his own you know, march the beat of his own drum.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: But like, yeah, but this is a guy who's still
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: kind of figuring things out, right, Like he just went
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: through his first game a lot to like, some stuff
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: to improve upon. I mean, is this just a matter
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: of still trying to find your feet a little bit,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: trying to navigate during the work week, and then maybe
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: if for three, four or five weeks in the regular
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: season and you feel it more comfortable, then you, you know,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: come with a show.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: And I believe that he will do who will swing
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: through and do this from time to time.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: Right, But two things about that, Austin has already taken
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: over as the company guy from Biselli.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I was playing Devil's advocate man, that's all.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I sick it up for him.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: And two Jack del Rio, who coached you.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Right Austin, Oh yeah, yeah first year.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: That was the first time he was ever a head coach.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Poup Colflin did it in his first year.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: I just think I just and I don't think it's
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: necessarily Liam.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: I think he would do it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: I just think that they're trying to protect him for
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: some I don't know. Look, I like Liam and I
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: think he's very candid, which I truly, truly respect I
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: do when I talk to him. I learned something every
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: single time I talk to him, and I like that.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: But I don't know he should be doing and the
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: fans should be learning from.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Him, you know, they should be. They should be listening
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: to him and him learned.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: You know, you're not giving away trade secrets on your
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: Coaches show.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: You're just not.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We're giving away trade secrets
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: on this show, though, Pete. Just ask Pete. He'll tell
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you everything you need to know.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Plenty ahead, We've got the second hour coming up. We've
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: got fanatics, fan questions. We're gonna keep it real because
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think we just did. That's coming up in
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: the second hour. I will return though, and take a
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: look at the Jaguars offense, especially on the line. We'll
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: dig into that and yesterday's win over the Panthers. And
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• 18:27
  Speaker 9: Really cool to be sitting, you know, to be standing
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: up here obviously after a win. But I was just
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: really proud to be their coach today with the way
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: that they competed, the way we hit, the way we
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: were more physical, all the things that we kind of
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: wanted to preach about. Now is it perfect and absolutely not.
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: You know, you're frustrated with some of the penalties that
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: have continued to bite us in the butt that we've
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: we did overcome at times, but it's that's not something
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: we want to get used to doing by any means.
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: And so when you play teams as we go throughout
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: this thing, we can not do those things and expect
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: to win.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach at the podium after the
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: win over the Panthers in Week one yesterday and welcome
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: back at is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by JETHOLM Loans, JP, Shadrick,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Pete Prisco, Austin Lane on ten Toinexcel, Jaguars dot Com
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: and Jaguars YouTube. And you know this game was marred
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: by an hour and sixteen minute weather delay and the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Jaguars had just scored a touchdown Lawrence DeLong, first career
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: touchdown for Long, by the way, the tidy end of
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: this fifth year in the NFL, and I had a
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: ten to three lead and then before the ensuing kickoff
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: play was stopped. So you know, the challenge then, obviously
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: is who comes back out of the locker. We've seen
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: where teams have been really good and then really bad
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: or vice versa, and the Jags picked up right where
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: they left off Austin. It felt like, especially on offense,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: the first play on offense after a defensive drive was
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: a seventy one yard run by E that was blocked
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: up well up front.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild because the offense picked up. I felt
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: like Trevor maybe came out a little bit flat after
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: that and didn't really purvey what he wanted to do.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: But listen, I've never been a situation where I have
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: to sit in the locker room for an hour for
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: a rain delay, so I'm not sure what that's like.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that's the first time Liam Cohen had to
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: do that, and I think every coach would handle it differently.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: The point is, though, is that you have to keep guys.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: It's kind of finding that balance, right because you're in
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: a football game, so you have to keep that physicality
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: and that mentality, but at the same time, you're sitting
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: there for an hour, right, so you got to kind
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: of relax a little bit and get off your feet
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and then get ramped back up. And I thought, whatever,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: whatever they did, and I was watching the broadcast is
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: why we watched the broadcast, and they're saying how they
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: took their shoes off and there was grounding exercises that
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: they were doing.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: This is according nine.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Shlay with the company whatever, but grounding, grounding exercises, right,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: But whatever.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: They were doing that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: So if you want to get.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Doing mushrooms too in depth in grounding, basically, it's like,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: you know, it's being present. I think Jjie McCarthy a
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: couple years Agot Mission again, he was kind of at
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: the forefront of grounding where he would take off his
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: cleats before a football game and just walk on the field.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: So it's a form of that. So it's kind of.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a form of like centering yourself and being present.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: And maybe that's what they did. Maybe they were watching,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: you know, some other games in the locker room. But
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: whatever it was, it worked, man, because they came out
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: ready to play.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Second Duan Smoot set after the game that he went
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: in the sauna because they have one right there in
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the locker room. Yeah, remember clearly, and try to stay
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: as warm as he could.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: I just took my shoes off, so like, it's center
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: myself and get a.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Real balance to my life with the earth.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: What are we doing?
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: What are we doing? Go in the locker room.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Back in the day, they used to go to the
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: locker room and light up smokes cigarettes, reds.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Look, handling that can be a challenge.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: And not only that, you come back out and you
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: got to go back in again for another half time.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: That's right, It wasn't that long.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: You're right, right, that's that's a challenge too. So I
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: think that's a good sign for Leo Code that the way.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: They handled that. I you know, I believe that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: I think that could be a challenge for a team,
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: and they did a nice job with it. You know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: it's funny because it was the storm that bad. Because
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: here's what happened. We were watching the game in our
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: green room and we have a storm at the exact
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: same time. So of course the satellite goes out and
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: you can't see the game, and then we come back
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: and the game's.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Got Was it that bad?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: The storm No, there was blue skies. There was some
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: sell up at two ninety five by the airport, and
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I think it probably put down a bolt within the
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: radius what is it ten miles or something like that. Yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and that that did it and it was perfect here.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: And then probably forty minutes into the delay, there was
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a little rain that popped up, but then it went
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: away in like five minutes. That was it, and they
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: played it well.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: You know what better to be safe. I mean, it's
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: it's a smart thing to do. Don't take any you
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: never take chances with lightning. You know, it's like somebody
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: on a golf course. Let me get this last hole
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: in and you know I fought with guys.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I'm getting the cart and I'm out of here, so
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: you can take you can stand out there. I'm not
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: that's smart to get him out of the stadium and regroup.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: But yeah, that's a good challenge for a young head coach. Austin,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: that's a good point. Does he handled it well and
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: the team handled it well.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: And the physicality was there right after as well.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: In the mean that run, that run, Take a look
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: at that the blocks on that run, the double team.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: And then strange with the I mean, just he sees
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: the defensive end coming down the line and he gets
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: in there and they meet at the point man and
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: it is violent and he kind of took two guys
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: out with that block.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think if Breton Strange really reaffirmed anything,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: it's the fact that there's a reason why Evan Ingram's
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: not here anymore, right because I think in terms of
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: the roster moves and everything, that was the one that
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: people maybe had the biggest issue with.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: What was getting ready to Evan Ingram.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously he was a target monster, and now
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: you see what what Breton Strange can do, not only
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: in the passing game, but also in the run game.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Just with this mentality and his physicality, it makes sense
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: why they chose to go with him as the starter
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: going forward.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: I think I think he has a chance to you know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of catching tight end, so it might
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: not happen, he won't catch as many passes, but as
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: far as one of those guys in this league that
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: can do both, which they're hard to find, that's a
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: that's a.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Kid who can do both.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Because now you know, remember he went games without even
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: seeing a target last year in the stupidity.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Of that last regime.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: And now I think he's becoming a full fledged pass
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: catcher who's also a really good.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Blocker in the run game. And you know, and and you.
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: Know what the funny thing is if we I don't
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: know if we if we have the full play of
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: the run by ATN but on the twenty two, you
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: know what you can see.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: As he makes his block, crushes the guy. The guy
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: credit crushes it. They crush each other, to be honest
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: with you. But he makes the block. He's behind the play,
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: he raises his hand up, he thinking the touchdown. He
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: gets up off the ground, he knows that he made
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: that block, and you can see him kind of celebrating
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: as it went on.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: It was great.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Well, it's a great block and good. Good for him.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: He's a good player.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: And and here's the beauty of having a guy like
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Breton Strange too, who can do both defensive Cornators can't
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: keen on this guy now, right because there's some players
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: in the league where they're a little more finesse blockers,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: but they're great receivers, so you can kind of tailor
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: your defense to that. Like I think Travis Kels is
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: a classic example of that. My former teammate of mine,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Breton Stranger, is a guy where if I'm a defensive
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: corodinator or they're gonna run the football to his siders
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: are going up for a route, it's it's hard to
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: tell because he's so physical and he's showing now a
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: prowess where he can catch the ball as well, or.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: They can run the ball opposite.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: So my favorite the fourth and one.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: I got to break the fourth and one with the
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: one when they actually they ran the ball, the short
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: yard is won and they had three tight ends and
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Udga on the field right there, so there were there
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: was four of them on the field at one time.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: And they just went ooh, we're going to run the
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: ball's and they got the first down. It was easy.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: They kind of got a good push in the middle
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: of that line.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just the first satility is there because
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: they hit in large part because they hit.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: No jets sweepandoff on that one. Be no, hell no.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: They ran at the old fashioned way right at you.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I love that. Let's come back and we're gonna stay
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: grounded on the show today.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: That's what we're gonna do.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Stay grounded now, stay defense. When we come back. What
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: a day for this group. Three takeaways we'll hear from
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Afoya Luikin coming up, and this is Jaguars Happy Hour
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: presented by Jettholme.
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: Loan coming out here and then everybody flying around, everybody,
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: you know, keeping that camaraderie that we have from off
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: set into this first game.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, it just felt great.
• 26:36
  Speaker 11: So getting the turnovers, like we're doing stuff right, Let's
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: keep doing it, Let's keep improving on it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Foyer, Aluka and the Jaguars linebacker after the game yesterday,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a Jaguars win twenty six to ten the final score
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: and welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Pete Prisco Austin Lane as the Jaguars bask in the
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: glow of an opening season victory, and defense a big
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: reason why. A lot of guys contributed to the effort
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: in the winning result yesterday. Lukan led the way with
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: ten tackles, the interception, a key force fumble right there
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: before halftime to set up another possession where they got
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a field goal and made it a three possession game
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: before halftime. That was Foyer with the Peanut Tillman punch
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: there on the quarterback. Andrew Winger had a great day.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Eight tackles, had a pick six but wiped off the board.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Eric Murray two passes defense, including one from center field
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: where he hit Renfell right in the belt knocked him
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: free of the football. Tyson Campbell was good, Jordan Lewis
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: all over the plays, interception, fumble recovery, and three passes defense.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of new names on there, there's
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: some guys who've been around as well, in a good
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: mix here Austin Defensively, it's hard to ask from a
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: whole lot more from this group in week one.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: No.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it's touch with it turnovers, right, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: you saw that yesterday. But you talk about what you
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: get out of your free agency out of the guys
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: that you brought in, you know, for their first year,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: and I felt like a lot of those guys a
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: guy would even talk about is uh Gardak?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Yeahs Gardak was sideline back.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he made a contribution as well. So
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: it was refreshing to see that these new faces in
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: here made an immediate impact. And obviously that immediate impact,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: that's some turnovers which you have to win football games
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: with those you know.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Here, here's the other thing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 12: And I want to give this guy a lot of
• 28:24
  Speaker 12: compliments because I I've kind of criticized him way back
• 28:28
  Speaker 12: in the day. In the past, Dewey Winger might be
• 28:31
  Speaker 12: one of the most improved players in the NFL.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: And I and I say that with all sincerity. Why
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: is that He's smart?
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: He knows where to go, He's a willing tackler, he
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: can cover. I mean, you're not going to put him
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: in one on one situations a lot of the time
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: because I don't think that's his strength. But I think
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: the way they play defense, he's perfect for way they
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: put I mean, he's at the line of scrimmage, he
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: makes tackles, he made the big play that was called
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: back what I you know, back in the day, he didn't.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Maybe he was thinking too much. He wasn't playing as fast.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Now he plays much faster. And so I want to
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: give him all the props because I think he's earned them.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: He's become the you know, early in camp, remember there
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: was talk, Okay, he might handle the.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: Job for a couple of weeks and then maybe with
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: ramsass healthy, he'll take the job or whatever. No, No,
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: this is his job. And I think he's a big
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: part of the defense. He throws his body around. He's
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: a good football player. There's a lot of teams in
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: the league that would like to have him as a safety.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: And so from way back when early in his career,
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: if he got on the field, I didn't think he
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: was that good a player. He's much better, So props
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: to him. He's improved greatly and thinks.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: A sorry Pete, and think about what he's come from. Remember,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: he was a regular starter in twenty twenty one, right,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: that's Urban's year, right, and then couldn't really crack the lineup,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: had the knee issue last year, missed a lot of time.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: He's been through all these changes in Jacksonville regimes and
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: defensive coordinators and special teams coaches, and now he's back.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: He's earned the whole starting job again. It's it's really
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: remarkable run.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: This is the cool thing about doing I talked about
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: this during the pregame show yesterday a little bit.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: You know, he was a folk hero here for.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: The past couple of years because it was always the Jaguars, right,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: So like he had that relationship with the fan base.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: But now it's almost like he's become one of like
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: the heartbeats of the team. And it's simply because you
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: look at where he started and undrafted free agent, so
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: the deck has already stacked against you even make the team, right,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: you make the team, you make it with special teams
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: and everything. You get a couple opportunities here or there,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: and yeah, maybe you don't take the league by storm
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: right off the get go your rookie year, right, maybe
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: you have to earn that a little more. But you
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: look too, from where he started to where he is now.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, anytime you take an undrafted guy and you
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: make him a starter and he produces, the locker room
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: gravitates towards that like that type of energy, that type
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: of player is contagious, and I think you're seeing that
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: now at this defense.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: What so, how many years has he been in the league.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: Now, it's been a it's been a minute, right, eight, right, Yeah,
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: and you would think he's almost faster and more. He
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: plays faster than he did when he was younger.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Seventh years.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Kudos to him.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: And by the way, I thought Murray was aside from
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: the mistackle on the touchdown, Murray was really good yesterday.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: So for the first time in a long time.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: You have a pair of safeties that actually know where
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: the hell they're going.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: They're not blowing assignments. They know where they're going. I mean,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Murray missed the.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Tack, but he knew the assignment. That's a that's a
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: that's a big step up from a year ago. So
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: I think I think that tandem is really good for
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: that young defense there. You know, you got two veterans
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: back there. Guys have been around the league, and so
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: I think I think that's a good thing for that defense.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: So I all props to Winger. By the way, why
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: is his nickname Dewey. I've never never.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Where that his name is Andrew. I think that's just
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: always been a nickname he's had. I don't think that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but now he's have you heard about his alter ego?
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: He just heard ago, so he's calling himself Morris the
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Blade now is like his alter ego.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: He was reading a book and I forgot who the.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Book was from, but he was talking about from a
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: professional athlete, like was quoted saying, you gotta have that
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: alter ego.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: You have to have your see yourself in a different light.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: And now, because they interviewed him yesterday and we played
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: it on our show earlier today. He's calling himself Morris
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: the Blade, So take that for how you want. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: believe it's a nod to Boris the Blade from a
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: movie called Snatch.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: But that's just my opinion.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Just call yourself Dewey Winger so people know who you are.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your alter ego? Pete the devil.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Man something?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: So some love that, you know.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I think I just again the safety spot
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: to me, really well done. And those guys played really
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: good football. Now okay, okay, here come to Bengals. Now
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: we'll see what you do when you play an offense
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: like that. So I get it they were good on Sunday,
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: but we'll see. And and by the way, another real
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: quick thing. A luacon in this defense goes downhill a
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: lot better than he did in the other defenses. You
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: know what helps He made a tackle behind the line
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: of scrimmage and he never.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Does that, Pete. You know what helps that actually being
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: on the field all the time like one.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: But also the aggressiveness of the calls helped that too,
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: you know, and I think he think about this. He
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: made a ton of tackles the last couple of years
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: Ton and we've always talked about that JP.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Do you remember plays where he's blowing it up in
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: the backfield.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it always seemed it was like line of scrimmage
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: yard or two down, you know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: Right, But yesterday that one was in the backfield. He
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: blew it up. So yeah, he had a nice really
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: a nice game.
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: And you know, for all to talk about, we thought
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: Lloyd might not start, he ended up starting.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: They didn't play playhole. I mean he played what the
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: snaps or something like that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: What Ventrel Miller played.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I think it was.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Less, Yeah, it was less than that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: He got less.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Ventrel played sixteen snaps. Lloyd played twenty two, and there
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: were sixty four defensive snaps in the game.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well they yeah, they Yeah, that's that's not a
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: lot of snaps for those two guys.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: But I'm sure they had certain packages situations for each
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: one of them. Is I guess? You know.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: I thought Camp and Neally did a nice job with
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: that defense. He really did.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: He's a good coach, but he's gonna for a guy
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: he won't be sleeping this week.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: He's he's gonna have his work cut out for him.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: So it'll be interesting to see what he comes up
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: with to play that group.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Although that group's offensive line on Sunday not very good.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: It's gonna say how the Browns do against him.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Miles Garrett had a hell of a day, you know.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think he was having a series.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: They had a series where they're backed up of their
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: own end.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: Sack sack, sack and almost the safety on this last
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: sack sacks three plays in a row, sack sack, sack
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: that doesn't happen to league.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: And Garrett had two of those sacks, and he almost
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: had the third one, but they get the credit the
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: other guy to the the other one.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but Twin Miller did that here at the
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: end of a game one time to seal a game.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I remember that.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: But Pete Tacho, like, you know, Camp's gonna be up
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: late at night because the question is, I mean.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: How do you how do you stop Joe Burrow?
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Then, because you see an offensive line right now that
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: is porous, that can't block anybody. But how confident are
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: you into your defensive line? So are you gonna send
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: the house? You're gonna blitz a little bit, because I
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: get it. If you're playing Bryce Young That makes a
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: lot of sense. If you're gonna send the house against
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Joe Burrow and you got t Higgins, Jamar Chase going deep.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Burling is not gonna underthrow them like Bryce Young did.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: No, and you don't want to get caught in a
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: lot of man of man situations with those two guys, correct,
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: So you come plays the one behind it and we
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: see him drop out and play zone when he blitzes too.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: I think you know, he had a lot of short
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: corners for the defensive backs with They didn't get home,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: but they got close the other yesterday, the defensive backs
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: tackled better than they have in years, even even on
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: run plays.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Now there's one. There was a run.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: Play away from Jerry and Jones, I think, and he
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: came down the line and grabbed the guy or it
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: was I think it was him. You gotta be careful
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: with those because when you start doing that, they're gonna
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: get you and boot and come outside and have an
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: easy chuck down the field with nobody, you know what
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: You gotta be careful with They were really aggressive.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: I like the aggressiveness, don't get me wrong, but I
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: saw him do it. I think I saw Jordan Lewis
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: do it once too, where they cut, you know, quickly,
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: come around the corner when there's not really any contained
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: on the side when they come down the line and
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: make the tackle.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: So you gotta be careful with that well.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: And it's not like nitpick too much or anything, but
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: if the plan is to blitz again, they're gonna have
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: to get their lane discipline a little better, because we
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: saw yesterday Bryce Young sneak out the side a little
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: bit and get those first downs, you know when it's
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: third and long or third and whatever, five six plus
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: and you can pin your years back.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I'm all for the games.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I'm all for running, you know, twists up front and
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: everything and sending linebackers. But if you do that, everyone's
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: got to be on the same page and have that
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: lane discipline. And yesterday I saw a couple of guys
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: didn't have that lane discipline.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I think I wanted they ask you that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you that because on the one
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: play Austin, they were kind of running a twist, but
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: Hamilton couldn't get out around and when when he's that
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: was the long scramble. I think the long whatever that
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: was was It thirty yards at twenty five yards, Ye,
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Young scrambled for that?
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: Is that that's on Hamilton? Right?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, regardless, it's on Hamilton.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Now, whether or not this is something that PFF was
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: never going to tell you, whether that that was a
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: designed you know, stunt, or if I forgot who the
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: defensive end or the linebacker was on that side. Okay,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: so so guard So some times, you know, on defensive lines,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: if you're a defensive end, you have the luxury to
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: go inside or outside, and it's the tackles job to
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: make you right. So they always call it making you
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: right right, And basically if the guy goes crosses your face,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: then it's the defensive tackles job to go outside and
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: have contained. So whether that was like a design pressure,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: a design stunt, or whether Gardic just went inside because
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: he felt something, it's on Devon Hamilton to make him right.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: And unfortunately Hamilton didn't make him right. Bryce Young gets
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: out in the corner and it's a it's a first down.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there was nobody else there.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Everybody else was there, and Hamilton wasn't gonna chase him down.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: He just had to get there. So he couldn't get
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: out that's what he had to do.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: So yeah, and there was another one I think where
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: they tried a game like that and got caught on
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: it as well.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: But you're not wrong that those are things.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: If you do that against Burrow, he's going to get
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: outside and fire a shot down the field for about
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: fifty plenty more.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Ahead, we're back in a moment with the AFC South.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: We'll take a look at all the teams in the division.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: And you said three magic letters a moment ago, Austin PFF.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Pete loves the PFF. Great, and we'll see if you
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: do too or not. How about that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Let's get it.
• 39:10
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  Speaker 7: Been a competitive been a football player, man. We don't
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: work hard to come out here and put our best
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: book for it with my little bud on the other
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: sideline of habit action motivation.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: We kind of want to show him how to.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Run the ball.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Sham has done, so.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: This is a great feeling just being able to shed
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: a field with him, and they have to come out with.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Dylynn, Travis Et and Junior fantastic day including a seventy
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: one yard run in the game, well over one hundred
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: and forty three yards on sixteen carries eight point nine average,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: and I led the way for a two hundred yard
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: rushing day for the Jaguars. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Hour GP Shadwick, Pete, Prisco and Austin Lane after a
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Jaguars win over the Panthers twenty six to ten. Of course,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Trevor Et and his brother on the other side kick
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: returner running back had some minimal time in the game.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: He had one carry for four yards and one punt
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: return but didn't have any yardage on it to kickoff returns.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: But I think Travis got the best of him at
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: least in this game. Good to see both of those
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: guys on the field together and this season the Jags
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: are bringing the heat. Pete with four chances to see
• 40:49
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  Speaker 5: That makes me.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: I think I'm young again when I see those uniforms,
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: when I cover the tea, I was a young man
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: back then.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: It's like with songs that you liked when they came
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: out on the oldies station. Now that's never fun, right.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Well, maybe they could play oh.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: No, oh yeah they might, they might actually do that
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: those days. I don't know.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: No. I like it's cool that the doing that, and
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: I think it's good for the fans. They like it.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: But you know, you talk about the running game, and
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: we were talking about atm what is he now second
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: in league in Russian? Who etn now after yesterday? Yeah?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I thinks to the screen, Pete, like where you're staring
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: at your like in our face all of a sudden, like.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: You're Henry Henry as Henry's first, isn't he.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Let me look, I would assume Henry first.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And he was probably trying to hide because
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: he was on trams to see him as supposed to
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: be Tutans offense.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I thought was supposed to be Tutons backfield.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: Pete Well, he had a couple of good runs too,
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah he did.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where was Tank Pigsby?
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: He was there, He ran a couple of times.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: He ran the fourth down play. Wasn't that him?
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: What did he ended up with? It was for like
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: eleven or.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Something, five for twelve, Bigsby.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: And had three for eleven, yeah, and Alan had one
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: one for seven. Yeah.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: I think I think Tut's gonna start getting more carries
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: as you move along.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: You know, remember early last season Bucky Irvan wasn't getting
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: carries for the for the Bucks either.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: It was Rashad White.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: Well, go ahead, and I think he has, you know,
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: showed that he can take the hill get his carries too.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: But I think to eventually start taking carries away from
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: those guys.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: So it's funny you bring up Rashad White and everything,
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: because you know, this morning I ended up taking my
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: shoes off. I got a little grounded, and I went
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: down this deep rabbit hole. In terms of how Liam
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Cohen's offense last year for Tampa Bay, how he handled
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: those reps between Bucky Irvin and how he handled it
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: between Rashad White and Rashad White was coming off of
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: a great year. They ran I think it was Rashad
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: White sixteen times and he did nothing. So they gave
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: him every opportunity to shine. Unfortunately he didn't. And that's
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: what this was I think for Travis Etn here where
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: they gave him the opportunity and said, all right, if
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: you want to go out there and earn your spot,
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: you want to go out there and you know, earn
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: some money, Let's see what you got. And I think
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Travis Etn passed with flying colors, and I think until
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: he proves that he can't do it, he's gonna be
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: the guy going forward. And it's crazy because let's be honest,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: he probably won't be here next year right like this
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: is it's almost like a one year lease and now
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: he's playing for another team to watch film on him
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and give him, you know, his well deserved money and everything.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: But until that time, I think travst to the point
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: where it's like, you're gonna have to take this starting
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: spot away from me because I have money to make too.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: But let's just say he ran.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, as crazy as it is, he runs for
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: fifteen hundred yards.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, then what do you do?
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I know what you would do or you wouldn't do, Pete,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I know that I wouldn't. I wouldn't resign it exactly.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: The run is a running back. I mean, you don't resign.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: I don't resign him. But here's the other part of
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: that equation. Etn showed yesterday that he could do his part.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Does Houton start taking carries from Bigsby? That's a good question,
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, And here's the other part.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Came in the long run by the way.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: By the way, if Twton had made the run through
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: that whole he would have scored.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Correct, I definitely agree with that.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: And that's the different of all of them. He's that's
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: the difference with him. He has that home run speed.
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: I think you're gonna start seeing more of him as
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: we move along here. I think he has to learn
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: how to pick up blitzes and.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Do all that kind of stuff. And you know, that's
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: the big part of their offense.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: So I do think maybe he starts taking carries from
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: Bigsby and get you give Etn the lead dog for now,
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: and then Tooting starts getting eight carries and then you know,
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: see what he does with him he gets eight for
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: fifty five. Then maybe he takes them from Etn and
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: he starts getting more carries.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: Because I think in the.
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: Grand scheme of things, let's be real, don't you think
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: that they think right now he's going to be the
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: running back next year?
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wholeheartedly. I mean, yeah, yeah, tooting for sure.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, you have to ride the
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: hot hand here and regardless of right now, you do yes,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: and if Etn even if he's not going to be
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: here next year, like it was on his legs that
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: they they won the football game. You know, I'll pensive
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: line and everything too, but like it was because of ETN.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Now could have toot and done the same things. What
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: do you have to score a touchdown?
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably on that one long run that ETN played,
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: But it doesn't matter.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day. Etn got the opportunity.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: He shined, and I think until further notice, until proven wrong,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be your guy going forward.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: I think Touton's third run shows the flaw in his game.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: There was go forward, you get three yards. He had
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: a little hole there and it wasn't gonna be a
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: big run, but you take what you can get there.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: And he tried to go to the right. Do you
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: remember the run and there was nothing there and he
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: got stuffed. Yeah, And I think that's as.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: He learns the NFL game, he knows, Look, you.
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: Can't cut every and we've seen runners around here have
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: done that.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: You can't cut everything back. You just can't.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: You know, if you're special like Fred Taylor, you could,
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: but that's that's a whole different story. You can't cut
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: everything back. So I think I think he's once he
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: adjusts to the NFL game, I think Touton's gonna start
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: taking carries away from Bigsby and then maybe down the
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: road start taking carries away from ETN.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Like all of Bigsby's touches came late, didn't they. I
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: don't think he had anything because I remember Ellen had
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: one early. I remember seeing Allen out there, and then
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Tuton was the guy right after the long run that
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: came on for the next two carries.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: The other thing they did with Allen, by the way,
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: is they tried to set him up in a one
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: on one situation. Again in the past game, Remember they
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: had to lead it was a design play.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Where they got him and I forget who the blocker
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: was a tight end I think in front of him. Man,
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: the guy made the play. It was and he had
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: made the play.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: The great solution to this when we come back on
• 47:38
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• 47:39
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• 47:58
  Speaker 13: it's happening here in September.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Gonna go on. Jaguars owners shot Cohn in the locker
• 48:11
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• 48:15
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• 48:18
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• 48:30
  Speaker 2: We're on tentin XLM, Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: and well here we are. The Jaguars want to know
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: after a win over the Panthers twenty six to ten,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: dominating the Panthers with physical play all around, especially on offense.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: The Jags ran for two hundred yards, one hundred and
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: forty three of that from Travis et and Junior. The
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: defense was rather spicy as well, three takeaways after only
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: nine a season ago. They shut down the Carolina run
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: game for the most part and harassed Bryce Young a
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: lot of the day. Penalty is an issue, eleven for
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: ninety three yards, were two more declined. They overcame the
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: lightning delay after the first touchdown of the game and
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: then came back out with the same energy and pulled away.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: And now we're on to Cincinnati. The Bengals somehow won
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: against the Browns yesterday seventeen sixteen, and here we are
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: one and oh, Pete Victory Mundo, you.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Know what, I didn't see your signal that you were
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: going to break. So that's my bad because she I
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: got cut off.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: We were waiting for the thrilling conclusion of your point.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: No, the point was on Allen's play.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: They clearly wanted to get him in space in a
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: one on one situation, and you know what, the way
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: it was designed, if it if the guy had made
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: his block, he would have been in space in a
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: one on one situation where the chance to score a touchdown.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: So I think they have plans for him clearly in
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: that passing game, which is which is smart because but
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: that means four back's gonna play he said that too.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: He never shied away from that. They always said four,
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: we're gonna play.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: That's right, had them all up and they all played.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: By the way. Bisby did not have a first half
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: carry in the game.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: Did Tutans did right at the end of the first
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: thing a couple.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Right after the long run, yes, before the Brian Thomas
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Junior carry for a touchdown. Let's take a look at
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: the AFC South. Of course, the Jaguars and the Indianapolis
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Colts are tied for first in the division. The Colts
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: blew out the Dolphins yesterday, the Texans lost, the Titans lost,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: which is great for everybody. And that's where we looked
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: at the AFC South. The you know, let's see what
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: happened yesterday. What what happened that the Colts just dominated
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: the Dolphins Miami and the Dolphins happened.
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, Miami's bad. They Tua was terrible, The secondary
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: is awful. It just they weren't very good and they
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: got They made Daniel Jones look.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: Like Peyton Manning and a Colt's unifor him. I mean,
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: he was good.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: And so the Colts might be better than we thought
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: because defensively they did some really good things as well,
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: and so they might be better than we thought because
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: they got a physical They're talking about a team that
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: can be physical in both lines when they have Buckner
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: and Stewart going in the middle of that line that's physical,
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: and then the offensive line a lot. You know, when
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: they're on the field, they're healthy and tough. So that
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: could be a problem that think might be better than
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: we think they are.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of skill positions too, you still have
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor's running at a very high rate. Tyler Warren
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: now seems like he's picking up the offense pretty quickly.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Josh Down's one of the most underrated wide receivers, I
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: feel like, just in terms of being the gadget guy
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: and being a speed guy. But you know, it's hard
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: to tell because I've watched a lot of that game.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: The Dolphins just looked so bad, you know, so it's
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: hard to tell really how good are the Colts. But
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, condolence is the Giants
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: fans because you watch Saquon Barkley go out the door
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: and do his thing, and now are they going to
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: watch David Jones have a little resurgence to become day
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: dimes again.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: Don't forget about Zaviory McKinney, who was in the Defensive
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: Player of the Year right, yeah, raced last year in
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: Bay Yeah yeah, I'll tell you what though, Xavi and
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: Howard was picked up off the scrap heap and just
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: starting a corner for him.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's a good thing.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Rams over the Texans fourteen to nine.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: Same problems for the Texans.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: The offensive line stinks, and they were gonna start ed
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: Ingram at right guard, and he got got hurt on
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: Thursday and practice, so they shuffled.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: They put they were.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: Gonna start Ursery the rookie, at left tackle, and Titus
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: Howard at right tackle. Well, when Ingram went down, they
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: moved Howard to right guard and put Cam Robinson back
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: in at left tackle, played Ery at right tackle, and
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: it didn't work and Cam was actually wasn't awful.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: But the line isn't very good. So there, that's gonna
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: be a problem for them all year long.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: And you saw last year he didn't look like the
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: same guy with that line.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Their defense is nasty though, yeah, oh, defense is legit.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: And also at running back and then now Mixing being
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: out too, so you don't really have a safe checkdown
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: because you had Nick Chubb and then kept Damian Pierce
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: back there. And yeah, Stroud just didn't look comfortable back there, man.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: And but their defense is going to keep him in
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: a lot of games.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: I mean, they kept the Rams and check Now the
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: Rams don't run that well, so it's easier to defend them,
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: I think. But their defense is nasty.
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: But all the corners can play.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: The safeties are good that you know, the pass rush
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: is good.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: They're gonna be tough to move the ball on consistently.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And finally, the Titans lost to Denver yesterday twenty to
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: twelve drops in the game, thirteen penalties on the Titans,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: and then what the what the hell's the coach doing
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: with the replay thing? He was confused after the game,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: he couldn't review it. What happened here?
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: It?
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: Well, first off, cam Ward did some get Ridley had
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: a drop late in the game that might have had
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: a chance to get get him down there and where
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: they had a chance to tie the game.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: But their defense actually played pretty good football.
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: They made bow Knicks turn the ball over four times
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: I think in that game, where three times.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: Uh, they did the Broncos.
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: For all to talk about the Broncos being the you
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: know team and the super can get to the Super Bowl.
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: I didn't see that in that game at all. Now,
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: that's only one game, but they didn't show well. Cam
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: Ward had some good things and had some really bad things.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: But that's a tough place to play against that defense
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: on the road to open your career.
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: It really is.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't happen group though John Peyton did him a
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: favor too.
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: By the way, John Peyton did him a favor.
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: It was twenty to twelve, they had a fourth down,
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: could have kicked the late in the game, could have
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: kicked the I think it would have been a fifty
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: something yard fifty one yard field goal.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: With fifty three yard field goal.
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: Which in altitude is ten yards, you know, it's much easier.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: And he decides he's going to go for him fourth
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: and seven.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: I think it was was like fourth and seven, fourth
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: and eight. Yeah, and did they go deep with it
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: instead of just yeah with me? Zero sense? I mean
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: at elevation, especially after kickers making fifty yard field goals,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: at making it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: Eleven, you making it an eleven point game, and the
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: game's over going for it and he didn't kick it.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: And I will say this though, Bo Nicks picked the
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: wrong receiver because the other.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: One on the other sid had crossed over.
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: It wasn't the sole near him, but he predetermined where
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: he's going before the snap, and that thing went incomplete.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Jaguars, of course, got the victory twenty six to ten
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: over the Carolina Panthers. You know, our previous co host,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Pete loved the PFF grades. I'm curious if Austin feels
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: the same way. What are your thoughts you don't love it?
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm being completely transparent, if you've listened
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: to some other shows I've been on, sometimes I refer
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: to them as nerds.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: You're another show.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: I'm another show. I'm a prelancer, man, I do what
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: I want you.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: That's all good, No worries. That was not on the
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: broch shirt.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: Oh my bad, Sorry that wasn't in the resume. No, okay,
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I've said before. You know, sometimes it's it's
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: a bunch of nerds with glasses that don't understand the
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: game of football.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Tournament with the nerds with glasses, what is that supposed to?
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Because here's what it means.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: It means like you go with an analytical approach, but
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: do you know is this defensive tackle dropped back into coverage?
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: Is he supposed to stunt? Is he playing it straight up? Like,
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: unless you know like the scheme, unless you talk to
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: the coaches, unless you talk to the players, there's no
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: way of knowing exactly what this guy's responsibility is. So
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: you can go and turn on the film and be like, Okay, whoa,
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: this guy got reached here. Well maybe that was maybe
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: supposed to have outside contained as a defensive tackle on
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: a stunt. So when it's plays like that, they don't
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: know exactly what the defense is running.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: That's my issue with it.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: You know, it's funny, you're right, Austin, But they always say,
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: we're our coaches know what the scheme is, so they'll
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: have it. And I've actually went when I went down
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: to Arizona years ago and watched watched tape with with
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: a bunch of offensive linemen in the league, and we sat
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: there and we got into this debate about PFF and
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: they said, I don't know what the assignment is on
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: his team. When I watched the tape, I know what
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: mine is. He doesn't know what mine is and I
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: don't know what his is. How the hell can they
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: grade us based on thinking what the assignment is? They
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: don't know, and so it's it's really unfair, but they
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: do it.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: And you want to hear how unfair it is.
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: In their grading scheme from Sunday, Bryce Shong had a
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: higher grade than Trevor Lawrence.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: How's that?
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: How the hell do I know? I mean Trevor through
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: an interception, but Bryce through to this.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Four down.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no way Price Young played better than Trevor Lawrence.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: I do not know. You want me to give you
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: the grades? Okay, who do you think we'll take one
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: guy out.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: Because he's you know, he played a little bit. Who
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: do you think the highest graded offensive player was for Jacksonville?
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: I mean you have to go taking Trames ctn out.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, he's in it. He's in it.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I would say the highest grade has
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: gotta be Travis etn Well.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: Strange was the highest grade.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, oh yeah, because he was good in a.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: Run blocking, good in passed protection. You know, he did
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: it across the board. It went like this.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: Strange was one Hainsey, who I thought had a really
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: good game was two, Harrison was three and Etn was four,
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: So you know that's I had after watching the tape.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: Harrison and Hainesy were good. I thought Cleveland was good too.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: And he's right behind him. McCarry was good. He's right
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: behind him. And then you go Walker Little was down
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: a ways because Walker Little still has problems a little
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: bit in the run game. He's not as good as
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: he could be in that. And then all the way
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: who the Brian Thomas and Travis Hunter eighteen and ninety.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunter had what six sketches.
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for about twenty yards thirty three thirty three.
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: He was, by the way on that screen pass, he
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: was a two screen passes. If Brian Thomas Junior makes
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: his block on the outside instead of getting.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: Blown up, that's going to be a big play.
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: And then on the one on the inside screen, the
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: defensive tackle Derek Brown has made a really good play
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: coming off, coming off and making the play otherwise that
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: would have been a decent play.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: And then if Trevor gets into the throwdown field that
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: he got intercepted, that's he's open behind him.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: Well, Trevor needed to because Brian Thomas Junior was open.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: Underneath, and Trevor needed to hold him, hold j C.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: Horn on Thomas for a second longer, and then he
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: gets it over his head.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: He kind of comes off of him, and you could
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: say he's.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: Gonna throw that ball when you watch the tavy because
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: he's gonna throw it, but he needed to keep.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: His eyes on Thomas more and then throw it, you
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, because he's sunk on that play.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: He made a really good play, but that's a big
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: play if he puts it over the top of him.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: In terms of gamescript everything, because I get this was
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: third and long. I think he had a.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: Penalty or something here, but it seemed like they almost
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: were trying to force feed Brian Thomas Junior and Travis
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Hunter at the end right where you're upcomfortably. Usually in
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: the past to be okay, just run the football, run
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  Speaker 4: the clock out, and we didn't really see that from
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  Speaker 4: this team.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Reminded me of the remind me of last year when
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: Minnesota was here and then Justin Jefferson had a quiet
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: day and they kept trying to force feed him the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: ball in the end zone and Donald threw like two
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: or three interceptions that game. It seemed like they were
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: trying to go out of their way to appease Brian
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  Speaker 4: Thomas Junior and Travis Hunter. And I'm just I'm wondering,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, was that the right? Obviously it was fine
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: because he won the football game, it's all that matters,
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  Speaker 4: But like, would you like to see him run the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: football little more to run the clock out or is
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: your job now when you're up by so much you're
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: comfortable to get your playmakers the ball.
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  Speaker 6: No, I was okay with that because that was, like
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  Speaker 6: you mentioned, that was a third and long situation right there.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm saying throughout the entirety of the second half, though,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: it seemed like they were trying to pass a little more.
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  Speaker 6: Well, if they were trying to get the ball to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: Ryan Thomas, they didn't do a very good job of
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: it because he didn't get.
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  Speaker 5: The ball very much. So you know that's something that
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: and well, I think we're going to talk about that later,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: but we're gonna keep it. Yeah, what about the defensive grades.
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  Speaker 6: Who's the highest rated defensive player?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: He was by far and away, then Devin Lloyd was second.
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  Speaker 5: By the way.
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  Speaker 6: Hinz Allen had some pressures he didn't get a sack,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: but he.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: Had some pressures. In fact, I think he was credited.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: With seven of them and said a smooth sacked too
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: on their game on the outside.
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  Speaker 6: He's third, then Murray, who I thought played well as
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: fourth guardak fifth and wingered is sixth.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: And all the way down to the bottom Hamilton, because
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: I thought Hamilton in terms of you know, obviously he
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: gave up that that run to Bryce you on, but
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: also in the one game he got reached I probably
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: a couple of times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, the defensive tackles Hamilton bottom, then uh Saunders sixteen,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: Johnson fifteen, and Armstead twelve, So all of the tackles
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  Speaker 6: were twelve down. So they were the lowest rated guys
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: on that team. And that's you can't argue with that.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: That's that's that's what that tackle group is right now.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have it. PFF grades are in your first
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: experience for those Austin, Yeah, you love them.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna lie as much as I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: was hating on him in the to start the segment,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: they didn't make a lot of sense.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: I mean I would they made this.
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  Speaker 5: They were pretty spot on on this group except for
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: the quarterbacks. Yeah, the quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: There's no way, There's no way in hell Bryce Young
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: should be graded over.
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  Speaker 4: I mean start putting my body language into PFF as well,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: because if you saw the body language from Bryce Sung
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: on the sideline, man, let's go ahead, knock him down
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: another five six points?
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I probably have bad body language if I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: threw in the stands unfourth down two. Guess what something?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: Brian Thomas has bad body language sometimes when he doesn't
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: get the ball.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: By the way, we'll come back in a moment and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: keep it real about Brian Thomas Junior and the chemistry
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: or lack thereof with the quarterback. How about that Pete
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  Speaker 9: I think we try to get him a touch on
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  Speaker 9: the first or second drive of the game. First play
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: of the game, right, we don't convert it, throw him
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  Speaker 9: a screen low doesn't come down with it. And then
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  Speaker 9: the flow of the game, we missed him on an
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  Speaker 9: inbreaker which he had a lot of room to run,
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  Speaker 9: missed him on a corner route where he was fairly open,
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  Speaker 9: and then missed you know, had the one on the
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  Speaker 9: out of bounds. So you're talking about that's five catches
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  Speaker 9: right there. That gets him into the flow of it.
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  Speaker 9: It's just the way the game went, and you know,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 9: we got to details of route running, timing, depth, the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: quarterback protection, everything goes into it. So I fully anticipate
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  Speaker 2: All right. It is about Brian Thomas Junior. Let's keep
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: it real. He was targeted seven times, only one reception
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: for eleven yards. He did have the handoff in a
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: round touchdown on the ground, which is great to see.
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  Speaker 2: Is there you know? Is it a chemistry thing? He
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: just went through all of the most of the targets yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a concern long term or is it a
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: blip on the radar? Austin. What do you think.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna call it a blip on the radar.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it a one off. Now, there is
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: a little concern because if you go back to last
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: season when Trevor Lawrence was in, like there wasn't a
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: lot of chemistry either. It took It took Trevor Lawrence
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: getting hurt and Mac Jones coming in to, you know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: build that relationship with Brian Thomas Junior making the fantasy
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: darling that he was last year. Now he fast forward
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: to this season. It's not for a lack of effort.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: The very first play of the game. You want to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: talk about being physical and everything. You want to run
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: the football, what do you do You you have Brian
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: Simas Junior on a little bit of a goal route.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: Ball's a little underthrown and it's an incompletion. So they're
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: gonna try to get him the football. And that's what
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen's job is, and I respect it. But whether
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: it's that drop ball that he had, whether it was
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: the overthrows like they got it, get a better report.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and he had had a great summer, you guys
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: know that. I mean, there was concerns about him in
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: the summer. He wasn't winning fifty to fifty balls of practice.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: He dropped a bunch of practice and so, but he's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: a gamer, and I thought when the lights went on,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: he'd be a gamer.
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  Speaker 5: Let's be real.
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  Speaker 6: The passing game, it wasn't just like it was him.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Travis Hunter caught six balls for thirty yards
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: or whatever, thirty three yards. The ball wasn't really going
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  Speaker 6: down the field.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't. They didn't.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: Who had the longest throw might have been the strange
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: Of the field. Janmy Brown had a twenty three yarder.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but so so I think from that standpoint, whether missus.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the first play of the game, he wasn't open.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't run by that guy.
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  Speaker 6: You know that when you get what that's when the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: quarterback comes to a lot of scrimmage. And Trevor even
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: said this when I talked to him in May. If
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: he sees one on one with Brian Thomas.
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  Speaker 5: He's going there. Well he went. It just didn't connect.
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  Speaker 5: There were other throws where he could have hit him.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: You know, I told you on the one he was
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: picked off on he could have had if he wanted
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: to take the underneath rout.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: He had him there. But yeah, it wasn't like they're
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: not trying to get him the football.
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  Speaker 6: I just think the game plan was to be physical
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: and throw off the physical.
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  Speaker 5: Run game, and it just didn't. Mesh didn't work out.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, think about what he had. Seven targets. Is
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: that what it was?
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  Speaker 2: Jason correct? Seven targets, one catch, eleven yards?
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: I think I'm trying to think of the sixth where
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: he didn't catch it, the one what happened, the one
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: down the sideline, that's one of them.
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  Speaker 4: There's the overthrow that he ran the corner out where
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: he was wide open. Trever's has to hit him and
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: Trevor overthrew him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got to hit that. The one where he
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: got his feet and bounds and they said he didn't remember.
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  Speaker 5: I thought he caught that ball. I think so then
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: you think he got both seat down.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was close.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like the they didn't review it, did they
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: They just they they didn't review it. They did review it, okay,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: so yeah, because it was they called it incompletion and
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: then I guess an evidence wasn't there enough to overturn it.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: I mean I thought it was. I thought it was
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: a coin flip.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: And I thought since airing on the side of they
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: called it incomplete, they went with that.
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  Speaker 5: I thought at first they called it complete and reversed it.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know the game. When of the
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: game was this. I don't remember this.
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  Speaker 5: It was in the fourth court, the fourth quarter, on
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  Speaker 5: the sideline.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Back to your point of throwing the ball up two scores.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you, man, they're they're trying to get
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: their their plate.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: Maybe it was in the third quarter, right, trying to think.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: There's no fourth quarter, nine to fifty nine to go,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: pass short right, pushed out of bounds of the seventeen
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: going in fourteen yards, uh past challenged by Carolina. So
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: it was okay then, yeah, I stand corrected.
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  Speaker 5: I thought he caught it. I thought he caught it.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: But there's one of a So I'm just trying to think.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: It wasn't like any other than the corner route that
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: was open.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: There weren't any blatant misses by Trevor on them.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: I didn't think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that hasn't worked.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: Say it hasn't worked the same this summer for some reason.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Now you're pointing on Austin earlier. I mean most there
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: was a game, the Minnesota game last year. I don't
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: know it was that week ten, probably something like that. Yeah,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: three targets, two catches, twelve yards. They just weren't throwing
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: them the football a lot, especially you know, first part
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: of the season, midway through the season. Then the Houston
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: game hits, and that's when that's when Trevor had the concussion,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: right December first. Every game the rest of the way
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: he had double digit targets and had eight or seven
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: or more catches in the last five games of the season.
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  Speaker 4: Mac Jones, well, I remember that that Minnesota game stood
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: out to me because like there was moments where he
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: was open, they just weren't looking his way. And then
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  Speaker 4: finally I just think that they had no other choice
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: but to go to Bryanton. He was all the right
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: and now whether and a lot of that was you know,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: there was like these screens and everything, these bubble screens.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: But that's the thing with Brian Thomas junior as well,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: and you're going to see this in Liam Collen's offense,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: is if you get this guy the ball in space,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: he's quick enough he's he's fast footed enough where that's
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: a word, fast footed, but he's quick enough where he
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: can get open and.
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  Speaker 3: Make plays with his speed.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: You just gotta get him the football right, whether it's
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: a corner route, whether it's a slant like, just get
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: the ball in his hands and let him do his thing.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: What did let me ask this? Did anybody talk to
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: me after the game?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I was here in studio. I did
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  Speaker 2: not see any video of that.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't see anything either.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, so if he's around on Wednesday,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: that should be the first you got it?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: Why aren't you getting the ball more? You know that? Shoot?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: You know me JP back in the day, I would
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: have had a headline out of.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: That damn thing. Yeah oh yeah on the on Monday.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, you come over and you go, hey, you know,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: you should be catching seven eight balls a game. And
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: then the guy goes off and says, you damn, I'm open.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: But but here's the thing, and this is the difference
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: I think from last year to this year now, is
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: they're trying to get him the ball. Like when it
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: was Doug Peterson's offense last year. To start out that season,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: they weren't even looking his way, And it was frustrating
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: because you take a guy in the first round with
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: his resume of being the speedster, you're not looking his
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: way at least, Like I get it. If you're playing
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: fantasy football, you didn't like the numbers yesterday, right, if
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: you're a Jaguars fan, you're probably a little leader from
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: the numbers yesterday. But it wasn't for a lack of effort. Now, Yeah,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: Trevor's gotta hit him on that corner route. Yes, he
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: has to catch that ball, Brian Thomas, do you're not
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: drop it? Like there's plenty of blame to go around,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: but the fact is that they're gonna get him the football, like,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: they're gonna give him opportunities to It's not like last
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: year where it's like, well, why aren't they doing this?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: Why don't they They're doing it now, just got to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: connect on it.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: How many proposed did Trevor end up with to.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: The day Trevor Lawrence in the game. The statistics say
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: nineteen of thirty one attempts.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 14: So thirty one attempts and seven of them went to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 14: Brian Thomas. Yes, so ratio, it's not abnormal. Something like that,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 14: you're not hitting them.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: That's the problem. He's just not hitting them. And he's
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: got to hit those, particularly that corner round. He's got
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: to hit that.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: So but it's a quarterback issue. Then also it's both,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: it's both sides of this equation.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: It feels like, let me ask you this.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: If if you could say you're gonna rush for over
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: two hundred yards every game and Bryant and Brian Thomas
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: is only going to get a couple of catches, I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: think the Jaguars would take that.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: That means you're winning and you're running it. They would
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: take that.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well they not if you're winning, they would absolutely
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: take that.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because and.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: Again it's not like somebody else is getting all the catches.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: The other guy had six for thirty three and it's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: like six for thirty three. He could fall forward and
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: get that average.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: No, and I get that, But I think what it
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: comes down to Pete is and I'm not saying Brian
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Thomas junior to the level of a Jefferson or a
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: Tyreek Killer or an elite wide receiver.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: It's supposed to be okay, exactly.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: So if he's supposed to be at what point if
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: you're the Jaggars and you're Liam Cohen. Do you go, Well,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: I don't care how much we're up. I don't care
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: how much we're rushing the football. We gotta take care
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: of Brian Thomas Junior. Like we have to get him
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: the football. We have to get him his yards. That's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: that's what elite wide receivers get. They get that special treatment.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: But they were playing a lot of off cover, which
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: is why Jacksonville ran the ball too. You know, I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: mean if if he goes three games like this, then
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: we've got a major story. Oh one game, Yeah, but
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: one game is kind of an aberration normally, look at that.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Look at A J.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: Brown last year, like they were winning in Philadelphia, they
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: were on the road of the Super Bowl.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: A J. Brown wasn't getting the ball with He said
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: he had an issue with it.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: And this is a guy who was part of a
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: winning team that they were parting in all cylinders, but
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: he wasn't getting the football.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: So he had something to say. And then they added
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: up point he got and he had one.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: By the way, he had one catch in their opener
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: on Thursday.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: One.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, It's just I think if you run the ball
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: for towndred yards and you're not taking a lot of shots,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: then you're not gonna have a lot of catches. If
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: you're a bad team, the receiver are gonna have even
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: more catches.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: That's obvious, so I think.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: But if you go into Cincinnati the Bengals are scoring
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: and Jacksonville has to score and he's not getting the
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: ball and other guys are, then you got it.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: Then you start to well, there might be something here.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: We'll keep it real next week. If that's the case
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: with the same topic, we'll see what happens moving ahead.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: Keeping They always run a reverse for him.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: They couldn't they You probably will just for you. It's
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: your new stream. There's a touchdown. What else do you want?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's a good play call.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: But I guarantee if you asked him, would you rather
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: have that rushing touchdown or a sixty five yard down
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: the field bomb for touchdown?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: Which one? Do you think he takes?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: No receivers like to receive?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: Of course they did.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: It works.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: We're back running.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: Backs six and you count the Hommy Brown.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Pull Deebo Samuel and just line up in the back
• 1:16:28
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  Speaker 9: Some footwork things. You know, there was a couple uh
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 9: on the mistargeted throws that you know, if you look
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 9: at he's nineteen at thirty one. We missed four screen No.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 9: Three screens on Omaha to Diami on the right sideline,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 9: and then you talk about the one to BT. It's
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 9: like a few of those, and he's twenty five at
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 9: thirty one for two hundred plus. And now you're talking
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: it's not about the stats. It's about the balance. You know,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: It's about the balance. And so if you're sitting there
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: saying he could have been twenty five at thirty one
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 9: for two hundred plus and you try to eliminate the turnover,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 9: you're sitting there saying he had a damn good game.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 9: So what's nice is that I thought he operated the
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 9: offense really well. I thought he had a great command,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: he uses cadence, We got the free play response. There
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 9: were some really good things that did show up.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Willam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, discussing the quarterback play Trevor
• 1:17:49
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• 1:18:19
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• 1:18:24
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• 1:18:26
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• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: come up with today. Jordan Lewis will be one of
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: the best free agent signings in how many years?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: H wow?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: I mean the best to me in recent history, the
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: best free agent signing was Kalis Campbell. Oh of course, yeah.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: I mean I think we talked about Klais Campbell. He
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: had such an effect on the game. He made his
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: impact pretty much in every single play. Now, can Jordan
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: Lewis do that? Probably not, but based off what we've
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: seen so far, and I'm gonna give him a bump
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: as well, just because of the mentality that he brings
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: in that locker room, I think he's up there.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: What do they say, the best ever or the best
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: in years?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: In years? I don't know. Okay, yeah, I think that's pretty.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: The best ever. The best ever. The two best ever
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: are Leon and Keenan.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, and they were both they were both free
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: agents unrestricted free agents, so that they're the To me,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: they're the two best ever.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: Leon seriously was a dominant right tackle.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: Keenan mccardill was one of the best receivers in team
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: history and one of the top receivers in league history.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: So those two are the top free agents they ever
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: had as far as recent history.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: Klayis Campbell's that guy.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: Does any of these, Yeah, do any of these guys
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: that they signed in this class? I mean it's a
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: good start, right, Yeah, it's a great start.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: But like wasn't Klays Campbell in All Pro and two
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: positions in Jacksonville? So does Lewis play linebacker as well?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: He was playing inside? Anna Allis I saw a little
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: bit yesterday.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but Lewis Lewis will be a good signing and
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: it will be here for a couple of years.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: Murray is a good signing for now. I don't know,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: you know, he's.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: Not a kid, so he you know, you can't say
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: he's going to be around here for a long time.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: Well, keep in mind too, they have Caleb Bransaw, who
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: you know, I think we're all excited to see just
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: based off of his speed and when what he could
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: do out for the season next year, you think his
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: name will be mentioned as as a starting state after
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: at least competing for that spot.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Luiken is still right there too, has been a solid
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: player here, but on some bad defenses. So who knows?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: All right, next question at Robbie Santis. With the performance
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: that each had yesterday, what does that say about his
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: future with this team and the usage of others. We
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: touched on this a little earlier, but what do you feel, Pete.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: I think he's going to be the lead back for
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: at least at first half part of half of this season.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: As far as the future, I can't imagine them bringing
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: him back.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: I can't.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: I just I mean, if he ran for fifteen hundred,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: there would be a market out there for him. If
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: he ran for a thousand after going for one hundred
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: and forty something in the first game, then they're.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: Not going to bring him back. So I don't. I can't.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: I can't see any scenario where he's back as the
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: running back in Jacksonville next year.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, I think in terms of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: what you drafted, right, because this is James Gladstone now
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: right like Travis Etn wasn't his guy. They don't pick
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: up the fifth year, you know, thing on his contract,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: so you essentially said we're going to move on from you.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: You draft Twoton in a higher of a round, so
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: it's all on the table now. So basically, what I
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: think with Etn is it's it's his job until it's
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: not his job anymore, and as long as he can
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: keep on producing, doesn't matter. If it's week four or five, six, seven, eight, Like,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: if he can keep producing the entire year, then he's
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: the starter, like he's earned that right. But if he
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: starts faltering a little bit, then I won't be surprised
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: to see more of of a tank Bigsby orre tootonin.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: By the way, here's the other lesson in this is
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: really important. You're an individual corporation at heart, and he's
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 6: taken that and done everything in the offseason to make himself,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: I think, a better player. So he's marketing himself for
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: thirty one other teams with the idea that he's probably
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 6: not coming back to Jacksonville smart.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Man contract year. That's what That's what these things do
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: from time to time, and we'll see if he can
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: keep it going, certainly. Next question that Jags fan five
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: eight five eight. How did Trayvon Walker and Josh Haynes
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Allen play. I didn't hear their names much.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: The take throws that Josh Finz Allen got a lot
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: of pressure, didn't get anybody on the ground, but got pressure.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: Now he was working up, work against the backup most
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: of the time because the starting tackle wasn't in the game.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: But he still took advantage of it, influenced a couple
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 6: plays with his pressures. I think it was him who
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: influenced the throw that was battled down by that knocked
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: away by Lewis. There should have been a he couldn't
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: really step into the ball, and he influenced that A
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: little bit walker solid, nothing great, and he's and he
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: for most of the game was working against a pretty
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: good right tackle in Mowten.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: That's a pretty good player.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: But he had a couple couple plays where he got
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: in the run game and he got a couple plays
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: where he did get a little pressure, but it wasn't
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: He wasn't as loud as I thought he would be.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: Heinz Allen was loud in terms of his pressures against
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: the backup, but they didn't get the quarterback on the ground.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Sam.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: I think, like, if you look at the box score,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: it probably didn't knock your socks off or anything.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: If you're grounding and getting your shoes are off, maybe
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: you knock your socks.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: Open your mind a little bit.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: But if you want to open your mind, then you
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: want to go past the box score. You look at pressures.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: Then yeah, I think Josh Heinz Allen did really well.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: He came close a couple of times. You could see
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: the frustration of because he's he's closing on the record
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: now too. I forgot how many he needs to be
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: two and a half to surpass the record. Okay, so
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: he's he's right on the doorstep of that record. Obviously
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: he's trying to go for that. Do his interception the
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: pick six that got called Was that Walker on that play?
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: Or what was that not on the pick six that
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: got called back? Obviously it was Okay, was Walker? So
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: like Walker made his presence known a little bit. It
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: looked like he kind of had a hand issue for
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: some of the game because he came out on the
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: sidelines and I saw like on the on the broadcast,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: like there's a trainer by his hands. So I don't
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: know if he he messed up his thumb or something.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I thought josh Heinz Allen played better than Walker.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: But I don't think either were really a liability out there.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: We'll say this, and I watched some of the Bengals tape.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 6: Walker has a favorable matchup this week against Mimes.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: On the on the right at the right tackle.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: He he'll have a favorable matchup against him, and and look,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: Brown's okay, but I think Hines can get his rushes
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: against him too.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: At surf for jag eleven. How does the coaching staff
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: go about addressing the penalty issue? Eleven for ninety three
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: yards two more that were declined Austin, what are you saying?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Is it going back to the basics again?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: Like listen, we saw this in preseason game number one
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: against the Steelers, right, there are some self afflicted penalties.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen mentioned it. You felt like they were past
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: that point. And now Week one against the Panthers and
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: now we're right back to kind of where.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: We started from.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: So only a couple of pre snap ones, all right,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of holding calls in game action. But
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: to me, like that goes hand in hand though, whether
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: it's the pre snat penalty self inflicted or whether it's
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: the holding like that comes down to coaching, coaching.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: It up better.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: Now, there's some teams in the NFL that have a
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: lot of penalties that can.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: Get by with it.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: If you look at last year, the Ravens were tied
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: for second and penalties last year, and no one was
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: talking about them out they're undisciplined. I mean, they're a
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: hard nosed, tough team, right. The Jaguars aren't quite there
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: yet to make up for all those self inflicted penalties.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: You played the Carolina Panthers, and the Panthers is what
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: they are, who they are. But when you play a
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: more quality team like the Kansas City Chiefs or even
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: the Bengals, you can't have us up so stuff like
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: the penalties.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: Did you think there was a hold on month?
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: That was because it looked like it was a good
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: block and then somehow his hand kind of got caught up.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: You remember when they called.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: The whole Now, I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: See, I'm gonna always err on the side more of
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: the player than than the call because like it when
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: it's happening in live reps.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: I thought that was a good block, right, Like you
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: see that.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: All the time in practice, or I can call that
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: in practice, and I get games are different, but I
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: thought it was too Yeah.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: And then and then you know got the the holding
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: penalty on Was it Jones on that that negated that
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: picked six?
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Yes it was?
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: Or was it Louise?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: It was Lewis it was Lewis.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: Lewis, Yeah, he grabbed the jersey, so that was a
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: was obvious. Uh what were the other ones though, Like
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: I don't know there was another hold on on on on.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: The right guard? Yeah, guard had one, I think.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, McCarry and he had I mean, he played well,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: but he had his problems with a couple of rushes too.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: But al though, like when you talk about the Ravens penalties,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: when you're getting fifteen yards for putting your forearms somebody's helmet,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: that's a little you could deal with that one a
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: little bit better than you can with three pre snap
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: penalties for fifteen.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, there's almost some penalties where it's like you're
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: okay with it right because you're you're kind of showcasing
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: your physicality, if you will, And that's who the Baltimore
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: Ravens were last year. So I think there's some penalties
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: when you actually break down penalty about penalty where you'll
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: accept that. But in terms of like you know, the
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: play that got do we called back right or some
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: of the pre snap things, you can't have those, you know, hainesy.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: But like I always say, if you're backed up on
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: your one yard line. It'd be a great like a
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: first down play. It's a great place to get a
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: cheap shot on somebody for personal foul because all I
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: can do is move it back at a couple of inches.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: Oh but we always had We had a call in Detroit.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: No, he's not. So it's just funny to say that
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: we uh take some cheap shots, well get two inch.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: We we had to call in Detroit when I played there,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: where you know, like say like that the team's got it,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: like the offense that were going against they have it
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: like within the two yard line, right it's first down.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: We always try to jump the snap because okay, if
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: we're off sides, what you're gonna move it up an
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: inch and reset the play? So be it so like
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: we had calls where we'd actually jump the snap every
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: single time to try to get the timing down and
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: stop them from scoring.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: If you if you're involved in a game with a
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: guy and he's irritating the hell out of you're getting
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: into with each other, and you're backed up on the
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  Speaker 6: one yard line and you're an offensive player, why not.
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  Speaker 5: Take a shot?
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  Speaker 2: You send a message?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah fifteen pedally, Oh no, you can't.
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  Speaker 5: It's gonna be fifteen inches.
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  Speaker 2: Next question, our last one at Eric Eristine. I'm starting
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  Speaker 2: to think the Jags can start three and oh what
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  Speaker 2: say you, Pete?
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  Speaker 5: Why I'm not locking that.
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  Speaker 6: I can promises that, But I will say, after watching
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  Speaker 6: the Bengals and the Chiefs, it's not as daulting a task.
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  Speaker 5: As I thought it might be before the season.
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  Speaker 6: The Bengals had problems on the offensive line which impacted
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  Speaker 6: how they played on offense, and the Chiefs had all
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  Speaker 6: kinds of defensive issues against the Chargers.
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  Speaker 5: So is it possible? Yes? Is it probable?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I think I mean sure, anything is possible, right, But
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  Speaker 4: we as football fans sometimes we get so preconceived of
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  Speaker 4: just the first opening game, right, like everyone's right to
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  Speaker 4: sell Okay, Colts are the real deal with it against
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: the and maybe the Colts are the real deal or
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: they're decent, but we got to keep it within perspective, right,
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  Speaker 4: Like you find out who your teams are when it's
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: like week four and week five. That's when you start
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  Speaker 4: building the identity. Too many times people want to say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: week one, you see what happened there? Week one is
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  Speaker 4: always an anomaly. Okay, the Jaguars beat the Panthers. Yes,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: you were supposed to beat them. Now was it good?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: Someone was good? Someone was just okay. But at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the day, I'm not gonna sit here and say, well,
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  Speaker 4: they can beat the Bengals, they can beat the Chiefs
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  Speaker 4: simply because of one week.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is overreaction Monday always, and we are grounded
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  Speaker 2: on this overreaction Monday. We are not going by what
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  Speaker 2: we do. We are uh, we're locked in. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can take put that shoe right back on Austin. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: sorry about that. Come on, man, Sorry, that's a small room.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, man, says spacing here, isn't it. Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Ok All I want to know is where did that
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  Speaker 5: come from? By the way, like, whose idea is that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. We got to come back and talk
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  Speaker 2: about this though. We gotta go around the league as well.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take our final time out. Final moments coming up
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  Speaker 2: This is Travis if yeah, picking his way.
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  Speaker 9: He's got some round twenty into the open field, thirty
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  Speaker 9: thirty five, forty forty five, fifty in the Panther's territory
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  Speaker 9: party thirty.
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  Speaker 2: Five along the left sideline. He's gonna a tag it
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  Speaker 2: at the twenty yard line.
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  Speaker 6: An explosive run from twenty din to the twenty yard line.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Carolina Panther. Frank Fanzi with the call of
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  Speaker 2: the available inventory. Let's go around quickly the National Football League.
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  Speaker 2: In Week one Thursday, Eagles over the Cowboys twenty four
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  Speaker 2: to twenty. Friday in Brazil, the Chargers beat the Chiefs
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty one. Bucks over the Falcons twenty
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  Speaker 2: three to twenty. That game was a little weird coming
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  Speaker 2: down to the wire. There In Atlanta, Bengals beat the Browns.
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  Speaker 2: We touched on this one earlier, Pete, but this was
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: really strange at the end. Nearly had a safety for
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: the Browns that would have given them the lead late
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: in the game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that that game was weird and ugly
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  Speaker 6: and not what I thought it would be. I thought
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: the Browns would hang around, but I didn't think the
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  Speaker 6: Bengals would be so bad on offense.
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  Speaker 2: And the Raiders not off to a good starting. The
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  Speaker 2: peak Carroll here the oldest.
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  Speaker 5: By the way.
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  Speaker 6: One quick note on the Falcons game, and I don't
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  Speaker 6: know if you guys saw the play late in the game.
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  Speaker 6: Pennick scrambled on the sideline and dove for the first down,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 6: and as he was.
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  Speaker 5: Diving for the first down, the ball popped out and
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: went into the end zone and they recovered.
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  Speaker 6: At the bucks and they ruled he was down because
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: he gave himself up.
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  Speaker 5: Did you see that play?
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  Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen this one. There.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't give himself up for the first down. That's
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: given yourself up.
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  Speaker 2: That's wild. I guess, like if you dive head first,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: it's where the dive begins technically.
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  Speaker 5: Right, But if you slide and you can give your
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: or you go down, you're giving yourself up.
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  Speaker 6: Like you can see see a receiver catch a ball
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: and go down and he's giving himself up. We know that,
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  Speaker 6: but if you look at the play they called Panix
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: giving himself up, which was just a If.
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  Speaker 5: That's that, we know what the rule is. If that,
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  Speaker 5: if that's part of the rule, it's a horrible rule.
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  Speaker 4: I don't defenders like I mean back even when I
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: played like it was a thing. But nowadays you saw
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  Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and that game law shoulder and embarrassed that
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: that defender. I think it was at cornerback, Like what
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  Speaker 4: what constitutes giving yourself up? What constitutes running towards out
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: of bounds? What constitutes you lowering a shoulder? Like, man,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: I'm just hitting them and and and and I'll let
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: the paramedics sort them out. Wow, I mean, come on,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: what are we doing like football? Yeah, I'm not gonna
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: let Patrick Mahomes lawyer shoulder and knock me over, of course.
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  Speaker 3: No way.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I have a child that goes to school. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not I'm trying to try to get him bullied in
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: school with that.
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  Speaker 5: Ha.
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  Speaker 2: No way, he'd never hear the end of it. Raiders
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  Speaker 2: over the Patriots twenty to thirteen. Cardinals beat the Saints.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Saints had some sweet uniforms, but they lost the game
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  Speaker 2: the Steelers and Jets thirty four to thirty two. And
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: this was another whild when a sixty yard field goal
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  Speaker 2: at the end to win it for the Steelers and
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers gets his revenge against the Jets.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: Well touchdown passes. It look pretty good, Rogers.
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  Speaker 4: And still remains polarizing with his soundbites after the game.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you guys heard those.
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  Speaker 5: But I love them. I love them.
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  Speaker 4: That guy finds ready to be relevant right there. Let
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: me tell you he loves the saltiness.
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  Speaker 2: He loves it just in general. Saltiness. Nonchalant saltiness is
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: what he brings the table. Yeah, perfect, right up, Pete Salley.
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  Speaker 2: Commanders over the Giants twenty one to six. The Niners
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  Speaker 2: beat the Seahawks seventeen thirteen. Packers over the Lions twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven to thirty.
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  Speaker 5: Defense is good, and it was good before Bikeah Parsons
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: went there. Now it's really good.
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  Speaker 2: You see him chase down the quarterback, get that sack
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  Speaker 2: on the sideline.
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  Speaker 6: You know what a lot of young players on that
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: defense are growing up.
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  Speaker 5: Edrin Cooper is going to be a All Pro this year.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: Lucas Fands had a really good summer and a good game, Wyatt,
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  Speaker 5: good game. I mean they're growing up.
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  Speaker 4: Pete are the Detroit Lions because they're one of my
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: favorite sectually go to the Super Bowl? Are they in
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  Speaker 4: trouble just because that offense was non existing for a
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  Speaker 4: lot of that game.
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  Speaker 3: I get just one game.
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  Speaker 6: But but you know there are red flags though, because
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  Speaker 6: remember Ragnow retired, so Glasgow played center one great. The
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: two two new guards weren't great, and so I think,
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  Speaker 6: you know they want to run the ball, and if
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: you know you're not going on the interior the offensive line,
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  Speaker 6: you're not going to.
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  Speaker 5: Run the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And then finally last night, I audibly gashed on my
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  Speaker 2: couch when Derrek Henry fumbled the football and the Ravens collapsed.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: The Bills won at forty one to forty unbelievable game.
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  Speaker 5: That's a really telling game in a couple of ways.
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  Speaker 6: The Ravens stoke, but Josh Allen was fam I think
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: he threw for two undred and sixty yards or something
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  Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the guy. Can you make a case now
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: that he's the best quarterback in the league.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to argue when you have that kind of performance.
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  Speaker 4: I think when you talk about best quarterbacks in the league,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: you talk about the ability to elevate the guys around you.
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  Speaker 4: And if you look at his wide receiving weapons, like
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: they're not a bunch of household names. There are a
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: bunch of guys that could either draft or you brought
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: from other teams, and he finds a way to elevate him. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think Josh Allen's in the conversation.
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  Speaker 6: And he doesn't get to turn and handed off to
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 6: Dereck Henry. Yeah, I mean that's a big difference, and
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: Lamar's part of that because he.
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  Speaker 5: Can run so well that he opens it up for
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: Derek Henry.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, one more game.
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  Speaker 3: It's Monday Night football.
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  Speaker 2: We had to Soldier Field, Chicago, where the field is awful.
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  Speaker 2: After a series of concerts, it's a battle in the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: NFC North. After missing his rookie season with a knee injury,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy makes his debut as quarterback for the stacked
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. A say visit quarterback Caleb Williams and the
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears as the Ben Johnson Arab begins who you
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: Got in the Windy City Austin go.
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  Speaker 3: And give me Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: I think any quarterback back there and they're gonna find
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  Speaker 4: success in that Kevin O'Connell offense. I'm not sold yet.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: I'm Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. I haven't seen it.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: I have seen Kirk Cousins come in and compete for
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: you know, legit time. I saw last year Sam Darnold
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: came out of nowhere and was legit. Why wouldn't J. J
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: McCarthy be any different. So I'm gonna say Vikings.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Bears.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: Ben Johnson faces Brian Flores and it's different offense, but
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: he faced them twice last year averaged eight point eight
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: for pass play against eight point eight.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: That's a big number against a good defensive coordinator.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 6: I think with the weapons that Kayleb Williams has, we'll
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 6: get the ball out of his hands.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: I think they find a way to win.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 6: And there's a big difference between Kayleb Williams playing last
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: year and JJ McCarthy making your first start in the.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 5: NFL on a Monday night on the road. That's hard
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  Speaker 5: to do. I'll take the Bears most importantly.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: Would you grade the read therapy?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know Ce minus you weren't even have the
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 6: music bringing and you just didn't bring it.
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  Speaker 5: Well. It was a little low ba.
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  Speaker 2: The read was fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta jump the music a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I think you got a little because the NFL films
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  Speaker 2: Pete Austin next week thanks to our crew. I'm J P. Shadwick.
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  Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.