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49ers Trade For Deforest Buckner · 49ers Rush Podcast with John Chapman

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[SPEAKER_00]: time for the 49ers rush podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's your host, John Chapman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: what is going on faithful back for a second show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody asked, let's get a trade done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to kind of match what the Seahawks just did in a quiet and quit Nelson the left guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, John Lance has answered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is accepting all apologies and you're welcome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 49ers have just traded for Defore's Buckner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine what he will look like in a 49ers jersey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have
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[SPEAKER_01]: Captain, pro-bolar, incredible last year of his contract in the cults as they are selling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, they were one of the teams we told you earlier this morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We even told you before the quit and Nelson trade that the cults were selling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the John and Wayne show live, they did the quit and Nelson deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, a couple hours later, you get the trade for the force buttoner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the terms of the contract or of the trade itself is a 2027 fourth rounder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: not much at all and so you know it will have to see what happens with the ramifications and the contract but that is just not really what's important and so a twenty twenty seven fourth rounder and exchange for Buckner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean that is huge and so
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a player the four-air strafted first over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was at that draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was so pumped I was with my buddy Chuck you guys all know Chuck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He helps us with our draft work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's an equals fan I have loved Buckner since forever now the trading away of him that was rough and you know You can get into all why that happened and
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[SPEAKER_01]: The good, the bad and did it work out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it worked out for anybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only person worked out for was Buckner who got the money that he wanted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 40 hours got the pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted it didn't work out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the cults have had no success since he's been there, but Buckner's been awesome every year, every year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you trade a 20, 20, 7, 4th rounder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for a pass rusher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good lord and you don't have to be concerned now it is pending the physical but he played last week so like you you just here I pull it up his statue just again this past week he had five combined tackles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you didn't have any sacks or any quarterback hits but you look at what he's done on the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He already has four sacks on the year matching last year's total.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got four tackle for losses eight quarter back hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just plug them in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a two-time all-pro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a three-time pro-polar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is somebody that knows, man, the last year he was here was 2019 and it's just, it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a return.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 49ers are doing this return of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shoot, you bring back Debo, who was drafted in 2019.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You bring back Drake Greenlaw, who was drafted in 2019.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You even brought back Kevin Gibbett, who was a drafter for Yajit in 2019.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have both to come back from an injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you trade for Defore's Buckner, who was on the roster back in 2019 as well, which was probably his second or third best year of his career, and again, since the Niners,
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[SPEAKER_01]: boiling a player's efficiency down to, you know, just sack numbers because it's so much more than that for defensive linemen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to force Buckner, these are his sack total since he's left the 49ers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been gone since 2020.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So six seasons he's got he had nine and a half
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[SPEAKER_01]: the lowest of, you know, since we've traded him way, and then for this year and half the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he's been very, very durable until 2024 and 2025 and 2024 played 12 games and 2025, he played 10 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: he's played every single game so far this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's played in seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he gets the by week with the 49ers and just got a step right into a role.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, you know, how big this is because now your starters, now you have to force Buckner and also the GZ.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are your starters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Grace had halted who has flashed coming up probably his worst game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: gets to go back into a role where I think it's going to tailor fit him better as a rookie where you don't have to do too much and then you can rotate on the back end and you know kind of get a lot of that set up with you know allowing guys to play complimentary roles much better than playing 30 to 40 snaps all the time you you look at this past game and if we're going to be
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're coming off your worst game where you got literally no pressures yet, three total pressures, no quarterback hits, it's Michael Pinnick's not good, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you start to look at just the defensive tackle rotation, goodness, Sebastian Valdez played 38 snaps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's too many for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Grayson Hall to play 34 steps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just the game against the Falcons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's too many snacks for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got James Thompson Jr. playing in 28 snacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's too many for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like these guys are just playing too many snacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also take you to a 48 snacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's maybe not too many for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're kind of in this mode
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[SPEAKER_01]: this one piece and the force buttoner who comes in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you get all of these guys, hey, guess what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to go crazy anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just get to be a complimentary piece and we will work you into where you just come in
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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe you just work on nickel packages, third and long packages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you just work on your passports.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you just work on, you know, if you're a matchup, whatever, like that's all you gotta do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You look at the total snaps that Tafor's butner has played this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 353 snaps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's always been an iron man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his most naps in the game where we two against can't city plate 64 snaps the lowest snaps to force butner has had in the game this season is 43 snaps he has all I mean this is 11 year pro this is 11 year pro to force butner you get him back he knows a locker he knows the staff he knows the front office he knows he knows and now he just gets to step right
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[SPEAKER_01]: And man, he's been awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you just look at 20 pressures on the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to about his four sacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got three quarter back hits on top of that three batted balls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing the 49ers have not been very good at at the defensive line setting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 16 total tackles, three missed tackles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 12 solo run stops.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no penalties.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Clean football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a professional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a professional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 49ers have traded a 2027 fourth rounder for the legend himself to force Buckner to come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The grass is not always greener.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he has pumped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that this is so great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you get them back for 2027 fourth rounder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You pull up his contract and kind of the terms, we'll have to see what that looks like and how much they're gonna keep and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the last year of DeForce Butterners contract that he's currently under.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has two void years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So these are some,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you might not even find this out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Niners don't leak this a lot of times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of keep this behind the wraps until way later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But one, he's got to pass this physical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is pending the physical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got to see, all right, how much of this money are they keeping?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's got a $7.2 million cap hit next year, the void year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm curious to see how they're going to work this out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's got another additional void year, which is just signing bonus in 2028.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That probably won't hit the Niners at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is the last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is a player who has 11 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't get that luxurious compensation pick, if the force buttoner leaves after this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know right now we're all focusing on 2026 rightfully.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is badass, but this is part of the equation because when a player has 10 or more vested years in the NFL and it's not a quarterback,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The most compensation pick you can receive if they leave inside elsewhere is a fifth rounder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't think DeForce butner is gonna be pulling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, maybe if he goes out and balls out, maybe you get to keep him and all those things, but this does factor into the equation whenever you're just looking at kind of like what he does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, shoot, he's getting paid 23 million a year right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I doubt he'll pull that again, unless he gets up into the double digits,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then of course he will, but the 49ers they have traded at 20, 20, 7, 4th did not give up the farm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of us wanted him back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I wanted more of the run stuffer last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I saw the lack of pass rushes like all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad to have him back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tray, appreciate you man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the super chat buddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, we are all in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That that's kind of the like I think that there is more you gave up a 20 27 fourth you start looking at the 49ers draft capital that they have next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have their own first second third.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they just traded away their fourth they have their own fifth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have their sixth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have the Raven sixth and then they have two sevenths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have their own seventh and then the chief seventh, that was in the sky more kind of swamp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You gave up a sixth to get a future seventh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So currently, you've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got seven picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have a fourth now, but you got your own first, second, third, fifth, seventh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a sixth from the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was part of that Jayden Dugger trade back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, trade packs are a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the 40 riders, I don't think that they have to be done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the compensation picked formula.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't even wear the draft, there we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The compensation, this is according to over the cap, which they have gotten the 49ers wrong on multiple years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're scheduled to get a seventh rounder back and that is it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you didn't really lose a lot in free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You lost Kendrick born Spencer Burford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those were marked out, you know, crossed out because of the signing of Mike Evans and Vidarian low.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan, Elliot, you're supposed to get a seventh rounder back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that depends on play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so like the formula of factor,
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[SPEAKER_01]: for compensation picks is contract and then snaps and then post season awards which he ain't getting he's been kicked off the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're you're scheduled to get a seventh rounder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you're even going to get that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're used to the 49ers getting all this compensation pick volume.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, the picks that we just went
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's this
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[SPEAKER_01]: and you know Adam Shefter just put this out there and this was very similar that the cults.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're pretty close to it fire sell and I said you're going to have to fire Chris ballad first once that happens see how the team responds and then it's going to take place they fired Chris ballad they said we're not selling they went out and laid a stinker and now it's time to sell and you saw the trade for quit Nelson
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[SPEAKER_01]: where they would have gotten, you know, perhaps a third or fourth round compensation pickback, but it's a four year out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they traded for a third and a fifth, and then, you know, Adam Sheftler put this out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a line with what we were talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the force buttoner left this year and got paid, like the Colts kept them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he signed elsewhere in free agency, they would have gotten back a 20 28 fifth rounder because he's an 11 year vet pass that 10 year crew season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they chose to take a 20 27 fourth, over a 20 28, 20 28 fifth round comp pick, it like I'm not in the realm of F the picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not that that's not where I'm at with this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you get somebody like a Garrett Wilson or a Jeffrey Simmons or one of these young foundational core players that you can keep for five to six years, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm totally in on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not in the f them picks for these old expiring contracts one to yeah, I'm into those value trades the fourth round pick for the forest bug near good Lord I think me and Larry Krueger were talking about this a couple weeks ago like yeah third a little too pricey but a fourth I could do a for like I remember saying that on the shot I need to go back and clip it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Third a little spicy but a fourth yes go do that and then that's exactly what they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so props to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not completely out on the whole F-dim picks or whatever else that's the way that's not where I'm at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you are it's got to be a foundational future all pro type guy that is already proven
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's hard to do and I keep getting asked about like Jeffrey Simmons and Garrett Wilson that's multiple first round picks those are foundational franchise players on the side of the stadium that every team has to keep to sell jerseys
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a little bit harder to pull off, but I do not think that the Niners are done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This year is special though, right here, Tray, appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the Super Chase.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As rumor has it, Jed offered $140.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, $20 for the protection or lack thereof.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, a fourth rounder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not bad work, not bad work, Michael.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for the super chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fifth rounder to the Chargers for Mac now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mac is a little bit different because Clill Mac, if we look up his years, as he passed the 11 year mark, yeah, he's been playing forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has that 13 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, very similar for Clill Mac.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Chargers are gonna be getting a fifth rounder,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Caught pick a 2028 fifth round if they just let him leave and he signs somewhere else But he's been playing for 13 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Clio Mack is 35 about to be 36 years old and February Is he gonna hang up the Cleats and Retire?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like if I'm the 49ers calling on Clio Mack I say listen man He might leave like this might be his last year kids something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What give you a fifth rounder?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What give you a fifth rounder form?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be all for that now if I'm the chargers, I'm not sure I take that so it might take a fifth round or plus a 20286 or seventh or you make it conditional fourth round or I think gets Mac you don't have that now right so like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a first second third.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trading any of those for Clil Mac for one game for an eight game rental.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I give them a third.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting back a fifth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'd be down with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But with these players, and it's like, and that's what we're seeing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Teams that are buying 49ers in the Rams, they're not overpaying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Quentin else was over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think that the divorce book there was an overpay either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the culture just, man, we'll take whatever we can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just kind of where they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of hard, that's kind of hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, still wanna de-end, still wanna wide receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that those are both legitimate smart plays
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[SPEAKER_01]: that will bolster this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think a lot of fans want the eff them pick, swing home runs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to bolster this roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that where are the pieces that if you missed this guy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have this player injured, things come to a scratching holes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The player at the top of that list for me right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just saw it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a different offense without an x-wide receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a different offense without an x-wide receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I mean, I want to outside edge guy that strictly a password.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got so many buck style strong side defensive ends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want past rush specialist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to X wide receiver, and that's what I want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Send, appreciate you so much, say so to Super Chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John, I hope you're doing well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does Defa want to come back?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he's likely salty due to the way he was traded away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, I'm just going to keep going back to this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The quote, I have it somewhere in my notes, but like people get mad at me whenever I say this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To force Buckner chose to go get paid and he deserved it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And John, let's set that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said how much are you guys wanting per year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The agent said, well, it starts with the two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John says, man, I don't think we're going to be able to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's earned it.
21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we're going to be able to do that.
21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to go find a trade, better get back a first.
21:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's earned it, go get paid.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: If the force Buckner wanted to stay, he could have stayed.
21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He chose money and nothing wrong with that.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then you had like several years later after you know, no playoffs, no division titles.
21:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It sucks losing, especially after you've been with the 49ers who started to win.
21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And you see like, yeah, just horrible franchise and getting pissed.
21:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Winning care so many yields, it, it cares so many yields, it, you've seen it with
22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: He takes care of his people and they always come back green law like I mean, it's just it's everybody So I love it man.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I really really really do
22:22
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just incredible to force but men and like that's the thing about, you know, to force bugger two is he's his wife lives in Fresno, he's huge in the community, he's huge in the community everywhere he's been he's he's a plus man, a plus player a plus person captain he was a captain when he was here.
22:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm a huge to force butner guy.
22:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think whatever saltiness he has had, this dude has been coached by some of the worst coaches.
22:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's been dealing with the worst general manager.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet he's going to be happy to sell the comeback to the West Coast.
23:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, he's Oregon dude and Hawaii and the natives and all that, the tie to, I think that's where he is from.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Some place in Hawaii is where he's from originally.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be wrong on that.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, if I am wrong,
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Right here, Senate, oh, I can't pronounce that one.
23:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That is awesome.
23:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Santa is appreciate you, man.
23:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Super chat is awesome.
23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, John?
23:24
[SPEAKER_01]: See you out there for the Dallas strip, dude, I'm just going to keep saying this.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to keep saying it.
23:31
[SPEAKER_01]: This year for the 49ers has the makings of something special.
23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It has the makings for something special.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens.
23:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you're coming off the loss and you're six and one.
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You're still up in the division.
23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Two games, two games, you're six and one.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I like, it's also, no team has more wins than you in the NFL.
23:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You have the most wins in the NFL.
24:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And you just keep acquiring these stud stall words that you know what you are getting.
24:08
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a special year.
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Dallas is just over two weeks away.
24:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot freaking wait.
24:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We are going to be there with Navarro Bowman.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be at Texas live the day before from 2 to 6.
24:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And then our tailgate is incredible.
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, we're going to crush it there.
24:24
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24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be in Mexico City.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be in Los Angeles.
24:30
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be.
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We also added Arizona.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to update the flyer.
24:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be an Arizona as well.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've still got lots of trips this year and a big reason why we had to go and add trips to it is because I think there's a great chance of four hours to get home field to vanish.
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't get any road trips for the playoff run.
24:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, man, this year is looking special.
24:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not even about coming with us.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we just want to provide space.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to the legend, Raj, right before this show.
25:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And I told those like, do trade to tap it.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to call you back.
25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, get with people and enjoy the experience of this season, because this is one of those ones where you look back and say, I remember this year.
25:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was there for that.
25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And ain't about us.
25:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about you.
25:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the entire premise of this show increased the fan experience for 40 irons fans.
25:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like where we started.
25:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Build the community as much as possible, educate through film.
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're trying to do.
25:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That's everything that we're trying to do and say it is, it can't wait to see you, man.
25:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait to see a Dallas.
25:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That trip is going to be a good time.
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at this, Nick.
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's up, friends, how we doing, man.
25:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the super chat.
25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming full circle this season.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to finish the job this time when it all.
25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not done yet, either is what I'm hearing.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's freaking go.
25:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's freaking go.
26:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That feeling in 2019, I just, I remember being so upset because I was like, dude, Joe Staley,
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: that look like Joe Stanley is going to get a ring and that like Joe State is one of my favorite human slash players ever.
26:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like that sucks for him and I felt the same way in 2023.
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't expect Trent would continue to play at this level.
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't expect that.
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But now that you get buckner back there's a zero chance you get it with the cults that ownership, no, just can't happen.
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: One playoff when since he left in six seasons, a little bit different here.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got to be at the top of the list as far as odds and whatever else.
26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to go out there and execute, coming off a loss.
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But now you got to buy week and you're returning five starters just by health.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And now you're adding to force Buckner.
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Six starters are returning.
27:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And Buckner counts into that.
27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You only have 22 starters.
27:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You only have 22 starters.
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That is crazy.
27:14
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... can somebody tell me well what is six divided by twenty two yeah twenty seven percent starter increase from the falcons game to the next game twenty seven percent it's a pretty big deal and did the vibes were at their lowest point this season right after the falcons game and everybody found out about the quentin else
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like that, you totally redeem yourself.
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: The vibes are back, baby.
27:52
[SPEAKER_01]: The forest buttoners back and Nick Wagner, shout out to him, practice squad mood for the 49ers today.
27:58
[SPEAKER_01]: The 49ers have released wide receiver of elite Turner.
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He will be back and have re-signed Kevin Gibbons.
28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So not one 2019 defense attack will then I just say Kevin Gibbons will all go.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: to Forest Butner and of course Kevin Gibbons.
28:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's I buried the lead with the Kevin Gibbons out into the practice squad.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Silent.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the super chat, my friend.
28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: How much do you think the guys are smiling on defense?
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Good Lord.
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you, Fred Warner's always smiling, even when he's hitting somebody in the face?
28:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That dude.
28:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, kiddo was vying to the coach, to the general manager to get this done,
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, Kiddles, everybody's biggest cheerleader, which is such a wonderful thing.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Like celebrate other people's success.
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe in that there's a big reason why Kiddles so popular and happy all the time.
28:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he loves everybody.
28:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he fights for his people and I don't know.
29:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a lesson there.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But gosh, how happy do you have to be?
29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Rahim Morris is never coached to force buttoner.
29:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a fun new tool.
29:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a fun tool to unleash against opposing offenses.
29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Rainier.
29:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for the super chat.
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, are you okay trading a future first round pick for a wide receiver or a corner?
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty against trading for corners.
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... top tier pick so i'm pretty much against that like i'm not given a first for sauce garden he has been maybe the worst corner in the NFL uh... starting corner like he's been that bad he's just getting toasted by everybody and injured all the time he's not healthy so that hurts i don't think corner success transfers very well now have you said that
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You look at the cowboys and Joey Porter Jr.
29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been awesome.
29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You look at Big Duffy with the Rams.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been awesome.
29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not always that.
29:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, trade for a wide receiver.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That is what I want.
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Which wide receiver would I be willing to give up a first for?
30:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd give it up for lad Maconkey.
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they would do that and he's not even a true outside.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just that good.
30:11
[SPEAKER_01]: The dolphins don't have anybody I'd give up a one for the titans.
30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, they're not trading away.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Carnell Tate.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Colts.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nobody.
30:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really want Josh down.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a Josh down's guy.
30:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Not with what we have coming back.
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not outside guy.
30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: The Eagles.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I give up a first for Devante Smith and a heartbeat, but they just paid him and he's got to be a focal point of their, you know, whatever long term.
30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Cardinals.
30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have anybody Michael Wilson's awesome.
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't give up a first and they just did a long term contract Garrett Wilson.
30:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd give up a first.
30:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Commanders.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I want stuff on digs.
30:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be cool with stuff on digs on like a six round pick or something like that.
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually I think that would make sense Bucks.
30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not giving up a first for anybody on there.
30:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I would for amica.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not trading amica Chris God would not give it up a first Chris.
31:02
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of A. I would in a heart beat They're not trading amies their franchise guy the Texas first.
31:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd give up for Nico.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so
31:11
[SPEAKER_01]: But the answer is always sure you've got to pave out, kind of how I see this.
31:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, the reason why I brought up all of those teams this morning before the John and Wayne show, I broke teams down into three categories of sellers.
31:27
[SPEAKER_01]: There's the four sure sellers, which are the Colts, Titans, Dolphins, Chargers.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen that with the Colts.
31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: They're in cell mode.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no hope for this season.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gone.
31:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They're in cell mode.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe cell teams, Eagles, Cardinals, Jets, Cardinals.
31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not trying to us.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing long term for sure.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Jets, you know, going to see some movement there with the coaching staff, there's still two weeks to the trade deadline.
31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think the 49ers have to trade everybody now.
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not done.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling this right now.
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: The 49ers are not done.
32:04
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to do more.
32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I tweeted out this morning that a 49er trade was taking place next three days because they're going to get some practices done.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said three days because the trade deadline still
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: two weeks away November 10th, but damn, I should have been a little more bold that trade was happening today.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Johnny Dale was pretty bold.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he predicted he predicted the christian McAfrey trade, too, like a month before it did.
32:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Johnny.
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He came out party with us.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It was such an honor.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Have it him out there.
32:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That was really, really cool.
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And Alex was out there, you know, she's, she's a credo, zeppel leader.
32:42
[SPEAKER_01]: She is incredible.
32:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, I would trade a first for a wide receiver.
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I gave you the names that now maybe there's a team not on this list of you know should be in the trade but not yet.
32:59
[SPEAKER_01]: This is my last category.
33:00
[SPEAKER_01]: They should be selling, but I don't think they are yet the commander's book Saints Texans.
33:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they are yet.
33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: If they lose another gamer to before, then they might be, then they might be.
33:13
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33:14
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33:26
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33:35
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33:36
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33:38
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33:41
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33:46
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33:48
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33:50
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33:52
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33:58
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34:02
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34:23
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34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, more good news, you know, we've broke down a little bit of the contract details of DeForce Buckner and what was left on his deal.
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Ian Rappaport just put out the culture going to be eating a large portion of the $8 million that were left on his contract this year to facilitate this trade.
35:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I know like,
35:07
[SPEAKER_01]: People don't like the numbers and the cap numbers that matters for the 49ers not this year They have the most cat space in the NFL this year.
35:13
[SPEAKER_01]: They are negative cat space next season They are negative cat space 2028 the only team the NFL that it is currently negative for not one but two seasons on the horizon So all the cat space they have now.
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They're rolling forward To help cover those plus you'll do some Renegotiations some extension some cuts some releases to get under that belt
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But for the 49ers, the cap matters because you are paying so many top tier contracts, christian McAfrey, Brock Perti, George Kittle, you know, like, that there's so many, he calls me kivots even.
35:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Evans, you got on a bargain, but then Fred Warner, oh, so Dicky Zua, you've got Diomador the nor, you're paying a lot of players, Nick Bosa, you can go on it on it on the money matters.
36:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so whatever you look at certain players in acquiring and signing to long-term deals, the Niners are a little hamstrung hamstring, hamstring your days, 40 hours away, right?
36:18
[SPEAKER_01]: This is huge.
36:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to have a team that's willing to, man, you're going to trade us this guy.
36:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to eat some of this cash.
36:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have the exact numbers or what that is.
36:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, we're probably not going to get a lot of that out until the physical happens.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all pending physical ladies and gentlemen.
36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: If the force buttoner comes out, fails the physical, which I doubt he just played and played well.
36:42
[SPEAKER_01]: How many staffs did he play this past week?
36:44
[SPEAKER_01]: got 49 played 49 snaps against Minnesota.
36:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
36:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So I, I think he's got to be all right.
36:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Going to be all right.
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, there is that silent.
36:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for the super chat, man.
36:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think the recent draft classes make them feel more okay with sending picks for Vets this year?
37:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, nine or nation.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's all donate our ligaments for the wind.
37:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the 49ers have dominated the last two drafts.
37:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you could talk about the injuries to CJ West, add to Alfred Collins, that has been problematic.
37:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But the 49ers value three positions more than anything.
37:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Defense of tackle, edge-rusher, wide receiver.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: and probably gonna put running back forth on that list, but that is where the Niners spent their resources.
37:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said on the show, do the Niners don't value guard whenever the Quentin Nelson trade happened live with Wayne.
37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And I forgot who put it out there, but they listed all the teams.
37:50
[SPEAKER_01]: There were four teams that were in the Quentin Nelson sweepstakes.
37:54
[SPEAKER_01]: The Niners weren't even one of the teams interested or in the conversation.
37:58
[SPEAKER_01]: The National Value Guard, they value defensive tackle, defensive end, wide receiver and running back.
38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just the reality of the situation in the 10th season since Kyle Shanahan, a John Lachabin here.
38:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I put that out there.
38:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It was weird.
38:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a lot of people like custom me out mad at me and blow and like I'm just like, I don't understand why people would I think they're just mad at the situation because their team didn't trade for Quentin Nelson so they got to go out somebody Uh, but then you come at me because of that mean you don't even follow me.
38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I ain't got no time for that.
38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You blocked over Which I don't usually like blocking people.
38:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: conversation, but it's like dude, you don't even like support us or follow us and you're cursing at me?
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't got no time for that.
38:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm too tired.
38:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at this!
38:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Rick, the rush grew.
38:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the president of our 49ers rush road trips.
38:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see him out there.
38:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I did give it away every time I turn around.
38:54
[SPEAKER_01]: He's given away in terms of somebody.
38:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He is the best of the best.
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Rick.
38:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for a super chat.
39:00
[SPEAKER_01]: He says this makes Sunday a little better.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we need Wilson Max sweat and I will be more happy.
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, am I missing anyone else?
39:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's just get them all.
39:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You get a player.
39:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You get a player.
39:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Rick hand in out trades like he does jerseys at our events, which I love to keep it up man.
39:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Love you, brother.
39:20
[SPEAKER_01]: He crushed this weekend.
39:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Great job.
39:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Great job.
39:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Just making sure everybody has a good time.
39:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think they're done either.
39:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, like the comments from the earlier show to where we are now.
39:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy now as there's still some day and I even saw like crazy people put like man We need to fire John Lynch and Kyle Sheddy and after one loss after one loss after one loss Like like if you are I shouldn't say this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't say this If you have the opinion right now That Kyle Sheddy hands should be fired
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to go out on the limb here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sorry if this upset you are fined you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's okay.
40:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Discussion is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here for you.
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You're out your goddamn minds.
40:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You are out of your goddamn minds.
40:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You're insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at what is happening to McVay, who is a badass coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as any injuries happened, he's had an injury season twice in his head coaching career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: McVay has losing record both times so far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: losing record both times so far shanahan went 12 and five last year with scraps didn't even have an x y receiver on the roster so have he said all those things like if you are one of those and that's okay i love you my dad was one of those and the big reason like people always ask me like dude
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[SPEAKER_01]: Won't you get so mad or whatever else?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do get angry, but like my dad got kicked out of like so many Braves games.
41:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But since I was a kid, like, it always just used to ask about as a kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why do you go these games?
41:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You're so miserable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even when they win your pissed off, like, this is a time period for 40 and it's fans that should be looked back on man.
41:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Those were good years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are great years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're competitive every freaking year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every year 2020 weren't and it took you a couple of years for Kyle Shanand to kind of rebuild Yeah, the 2024 year that just went crazy but man
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[SPEAKER_01]: So much to look forward to and enjoy and if you live your life for Super Bowl or everything sucks You're going to be miserable eight teams in the NFL two full divisions worth have never won the Super Bowl before and ours have won five Doesn't mean I'm content with it.
41:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to swim the Super Bowl as much as anybody But that doesn't mean that today's like today Should be celebrate that days like beating Seattle and Seattle two weeks ago should not be said like celebrated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They should be
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[SPEAKER_01]: s is three weeks ago now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome.
42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And man, the 49ers are making moves.
42:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Because a lot of the people that are like, oh, get rid of shenanigans and lynch.
42:24
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not making moves.
42:25
[SPEAKER_01]: They just sit on their hands.
42:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They just did a freaking trade in a great value trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't overspend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You gave up a 2027 fourth rounder for the forest butner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
42:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what's up, brother?
42:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Our resident Cowboys fan, what's up, David?
42:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Tableau, they're awesome guy.
42:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Good friend.
42:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait to see you down as money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fireshed a hand, so the Cowboys can hire him.
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
42:52
[SPEAKER_01]: If Shed a hand was fired, he would be the first coach hired from teams with five, six teams with fire of their coach just for the opportunity to interview Shed a hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I believe in that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really, really do.
43:04
[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, bad, appreciate you, man?
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: John, in 2019, you were saying as a nine or a fan, enjoy this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome, same in 2023.
43:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And here we go, it's building to that.
43:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And those were two beautiful years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't result in a ring, but God was badass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What an incredible year, 2019 was.
43:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of our started doing the road trips, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2019, Kylie, I've been doing it for seven years.
43:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
43:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We are some crazy people over here.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much longer we're going to keep doing it, Rick.
43:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But uh, we go pretty hard, man.
43:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we got to start taking some days off at some point.
43:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Mucky, thanks for the super chat, man.
43:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, here's towards some cough drops for you, John.
43:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Let the NFC West Arms Race continue.
43:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they're not promoted me, but I got, well, I got a couple in here now.
43:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, dude, when you're running around these events and on the mic and yelling, and then at the games and then you do the post game show,
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's a lot so sorry for the voice I know it's it's not the best trying to work for that sexy you know late night radio DJ voice just a couple of way but the NFC West arms race how fun is this and you know it started with the Rams bringing Donald back you've got the huge trade for the corner then you go get miles Garrett you do all of those things and you don't even have a winning record
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[SPEAKER_01]: 3 and 4 and here's another day at the playoffs where today Seattle's not in the playoffs They're not in the top 7 of the NFC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're 4 and 3 and yeah, they're very good football team And I fully expect them to be in the playoffs But through two months of the season or first seven weeks of the season They're not one of the best seven teams in the NFC The Rams are not even close to the playoffs Playoffs They're 3 and 4
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's so we'll see the the arms race is fun and I still think it's probably the best division in a scene north and they're playing some interesting football.
45:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say it's good football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They keep winning.
45:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right here.
45:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this.
45:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's funny shout out to my man James one of the guys I coach with he got me the Peter King Book the game which I just started today and it was reading earlier before I got sidetracked, but like yeah, I mean He talks about damn marino, you know, and in his preface about how you know the Niners destroyed damn marino Don't worry you'll get back You don't get that promise
45:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And so whenever these years, like this year happen, like this year happen, you can't look forward and say, oh, we're winning it.
45:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We're winning it all this year with insane confidence.
46:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You can hope, Paul's got to bounce your way.
46:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to get calls that go in your favor sometimes.
46:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to have health.
46:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to have all these things in the trajectory of where this nine-ers team is currently, it's going that direction.
46:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And I tell this story all the time, like we would sit in coaches office, you know, back in Tuckerville, Texas, you know, even in Calu, whenever I was a head coach out there, like, man, we got a chance to, you win it all this year, you would know this team has a chance to make it to the playoffs.
46:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So things go right, some players improve.
46:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So people step up, maybe, maybe I was part of some great teams with some top tier talent.
46:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty hard to sit there to just be like, yep, where the best there is, nobody can mess with us.
46:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Shoot, Dunkvill, they've been in what?
46:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Six state championships in the past eight years, your championship games, watch away with two.
47:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to SEC is loaded with Dunkvill players.
47:05
[SPEAKER_01]: This year alone in the first round, there's gotta be like five Dunkvill players drafted the first three rounds of the upcoming draft.
47:13
[SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't even win it all, right?
47:18
[SPEAKER_01]: things have to go your way.
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So you set everything up to bracket the entries and to bracket the horrible plays or reps, you know, terrible calls, ball not bouncing your way.
47:34
[SPEAKER_01]: To try to limit those as much as possible control what you can control, you do that with coaching, you do that with training, you do that with roster.
47:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the 49ers are doing that.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I really, really do.
47:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Rick, what's up, Ban.
47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you, buddy.
47:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He says everyone's freaking out and it's quite literally insane.
47:50
[SPEAKER_01]: 49ers are 61 and are the favorites to win nine of their last 10 games remaining shoot 14 and 3 and that's with two more messups.
48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I shout out to my man, Jack, you know, I said this a lot after the 40 hours hired, Rahim Morris,
48:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, like, I love Raheem Morris and, you know, my cousin, he's a Falcons guy.
48:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I was able to spend time with him, shout out Travis in the fan.
48:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And whenever they hired Raheem Morris, the Falcons, like I told him, I was like, dude, I love your coach.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fans are going to love them.
48:27
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with Raheem Morris, and we've already seen this with the Niners.
48:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said this this offseason so many times.
48:33
[SPEAKER_01]: The difference between Robert Sala and Raheem Morris is this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Robert Solas at his best versus young quarterbacks and bad offensive play colors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He will beat them 19 out of 20 times in experience quarterbacks and bad uncreative play colors, rubber solid dominates, but rubber solid against quality, innovative counter imposing offensive play colors or quality quarterbacks, he gets, he gets dogwalked a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot, when he Morris, he's a junk ball pitcher.
49:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He will make awesome offense to play colors and awesome quarterbacks look completely lost.
49:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you about the Rams, thank you about the Seahawks, like there's a lot like just like holy cow, just destroy him.
49:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But he will lose to teams that he has no business losing to more often than he should.
49:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the Michael Pinnick thing.
49:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what got him fired for the Falcons.
49:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Now so far, where he Morris has been incredible, he's been awesome.
49:49
[SPEAKER_01]: This game, he got taken to the wood shed.
49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It looked like Nick Sorns and Coach Stephens out there.
49:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But this has been his track record throughout his NFL career.
49:59
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a Super Bowl winning defense coordinator.
50:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He's incredible, but there's one or two of those games where it's just like, what the hell was that?
50:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like really, now you didn't touch Michael Pinnick's one time?
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, didn't touch him.
50:13
[SPEAKER_01]: No quarterback hits whatsoever.
50:15
[SPEAKER_01]: No sex had three pressures that were just hurries.
50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody got close to him.
50:20
[SPEAKER_01]: This helps with that.
50:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Rick, thank you for putting things into perspective.
50:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
50:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Tommy, my man, Tommy, what's up, brother?
50:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for Super Chat.
50:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, Bosa and his best friend will meet again at the quarterback.
50:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, man, that is so cool.
50:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We can see to force buttoner play for the 49ers again.
50:41
[SPEAKER_01]: How cool is that?
50:44
[SPEAKER_01]: How cool is that?
50:46
[SPEAKER_01]: How are we like, oh, now lucky we are.
50:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I love talking to the old hats because shoot me.
50:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I was born a 82, right?
50:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, with the nighters were winning all those super bowls, even a 89, I became
51:05
[SPEAKER_01]: a fan, you know, whatever.
51:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I was nine years old.
51:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm talking 91.
51:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So I missed a lot of that stuff from nine years old.
51:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been a 49ers fan.
51:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But you talked to the old hats and about the old super bowls and all that stuff and like dude, I go back and I watch NFL films and I try to read and you know, I try to learn, but I wasn't there for that.
51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: These are the
51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: with the next generation of faithful.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you've been to one of our rush road trips, kids are everything, man, trying to create new experiences for the youngsters so that they have something.
51:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I became a fan-wise nine.
51:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I can help these kids leave with something tangible from our events,
51:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That's huge.
51:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I look forward to the day.
51:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be shooting.
51:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting there.
51:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to graze in there already, baby.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the time will be upon us.
52:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like some kids are like, dude, 94.
52:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to round for that.
52:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I can tell them about that.
52:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that, like nothing.
52:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, this is a good time, man.
52:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Tommy, appreciate you, buddy.
52:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Sam, thank you so much.
52:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at the super chat in your generosity.
52:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you five times Super Bowl champion, 49ers are so close to the sixth.
52:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be there for it, 2013, 2019, and in Vegas for 2023.
52:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, being said, and we were together, man.
52:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good time.
52:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the 49ers make the Super Bowl, like, you know, I'm probably never gonna go to the actual Super Bowl game again.
52:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have the best experience.
52:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like it.
52:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It was too stale, too sterile, too corporate.
52:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
52:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We had such a great time.
52:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably was a 40 hours loss of the game over time, but we will be hosting a Super Bowl watch party in the city where the Super Bowl is any time the 40 hours ever go back there again.
52:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So this year it's in LA, the 40 hours making that far.
53:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We will be hosting a Super Bowl watch party in Los Angeles.
53:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably times we've already got a contract with them.
53:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think actually talked to my boy Scott, but we'll be there like again, this season special.
53:21
[SPEAKER_01]: David, what's up, brother?
53:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The man says, I'm taking back my early text to you, John.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to read this live on on, on, on, I can't hear her.
53:32
[SPEAKER_01]: David texted me this morning.
53:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Son of a bitch, funny second.
53:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Right after the Quentin Nelson trade, they're just appreciate you, man.
53:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Love what you've done with those kids.
53:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Fellow foster parents, ah, you're an all star, love you, brother.
53:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep doing the good work.
53:51
[SPEAKER_01]: freaking grandparent now how cool is that new that is awesome yeah so updating just kind of where we are like this is this is a good time man 49ers trade a 2027 fourth rounder for the force buttoner for the force buttoner that's it a fourth I love it man
54:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
54:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
54:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
54:19
[SPEAKER_01]: J.M.
54:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate the wet blanket attitude, but I think you are kind of correct.
54:24
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a decent side of not a splash or a blockbuster, but it's a start.
54:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say it is a splash.
54:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It is not a blockbuster.
54:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a start.
54:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm with you on one.
54:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go to.
54:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're one for three.
54:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm two for three.
54:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say this is a start and a splash.
54:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I do not put this in the blockbuster.
54:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I do agree with that.
54:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Blockbuster trades.
54:47
[SPEAKER_01]: First or second round pick.
54:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking at three, four year plus player.
54:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm talking about.
54:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But I am just, yeah, and I'm with you right here.
54:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
54:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
54:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
54:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and this, this team I'm excited.
55:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so pumped.
55:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Mike Garifold just put this out.
55:04
[SPEAKER_01]: According to ESPN research, the Niners have a pressure rate of 23% using four fewer passers, the second worst mark in the NFL, butner has four sex, the starting line up.
55:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Very soon.
55:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, man, are you kidding me?
55:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to force butner and also deezu.
55:24
[SPEAKER_01]: What next to each other?
55:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's also with Nick.
55:29
[SPEAKER_01]: to be kill Williams and Nick Bosa.
55:32
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a bad ass defense of front.
55:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a bad ass defense of front.
55:38
[SPEAKER_01]: You got Ramello height.
55:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He's coming in.
55:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Keon White, who's been awesome.
55:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Grayson Houghton, who is like, dude, might be the next dude.
55:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, come on.
55:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you kidding me?
55:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, I'm super psyched.
55:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I am super sight.
56:01
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be fun guys.
56:02
[SPEAKER_01]: The Niners went got another one and brought him back just when I thought I was out.
56:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They pulled me back in.
56:10
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
56:11
[SPEAKER_01]: He is back.
56:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to do it for us today.
56:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Join us tomorrow for our zoom and hang out 5 30 PM.
56:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Go sign up the 49ers rush dot com.
56:20
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to do it for us here today.
56:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's listen to the trade.
56:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to jump back on our film breakdowns will be up early in the morning.
56:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to rest the voice.
56:29
[SPEAKER_01]: They keep doing these trades.
56:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.
56:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just kill myself.
56:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Right here, sir, Kaiser, thanks for the super chat.
56:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, how does the salary cap look after Buckner's 3.4 million?
56:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We won't find that out until after the physical, but Ian Rapoport has reported that the culture taken a sizable chunk of his cap this year.
56:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So we will have to wait for those financial details to come out fully.
56:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I do not know how that's going to work.
56:57
[SPEAKER_01]: How much of the salary of the cult's taking, we don't know.
57:01
[SPEAKER_01]: We, that has not been put out in public yet.
57:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So you guys are the best.
57:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit easier to sign off on this show.
57:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Glad the voice held up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to the best.
57:13
[SPEAKER_01]: The fourth button is back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Until next time, stay strong, people.