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That Stank Little Macy Girl (Trick 'r Treat 2007) · Scarier Things Club

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  There are rules to surviving a horror movie.
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  Don't split up, don't investigate the noise, and never say, "I'll be right
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  back." Here, three friends break down the scares, the kills, the monsters,
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  and the terrible decisions that got everyone there in the first place.
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  We rate the scares, we roast the victims, and we ask the important
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  question, would we survive?
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  So dim the lights, pour the drinks, and prepare for spoilers.
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  This is The Scarier Things Club.
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  Hello.
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  Thank you for joining us, uh, back at the Scarier Things Club.
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  We're so excited that you're here.
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  Um, Happy Halloween.
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  Yay.
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  We are getting so close.
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  We're all … You guys have really great spooky time shirts.
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  I'm really digging it.
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  'Tis the season.
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  We're all just festive.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm so excited.
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  And I think that also is just a fun, um, reason that we chose this movie,
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  Trick or Treat for this episode, because that's what we're gonna be all doing.
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  Well, maybe not.
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  Maybe passing out candy.
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  Do y'all pass out candy?
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  We're actually this year taking a trip to- Oh … Denton, Texas.
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  It's the Halloween capital of Texas.
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  So we'll be there that full weekend, 'cause Halloween's on
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  a … Is it a Friday this year?
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  Saturday.
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  Saturday?
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  Yeah.
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  So, like, we're taking that weekend and going, which will be technically
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  this weekend as this releases I guess.
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  Ooh, yeah.
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  And the city has declared itself the Halloween capital of Texas, and so
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  the month long they have just tons, like all the businesses participate.
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  Yeah.
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  And they have Halloween they have a parade and all kinds of stuff.
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  Like, their city hall is decorated all crazy.
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  They have a big pumpkin like the Halloween Town pumpkin.
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  Amazing.
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  So I'm really excited for that.
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  Aw.
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  They have all … There's all kinds of fun stuff, so I'm excited
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  to explore that a little bit.
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  So we won't be doing our standard Halloween ritual, which is stay in and
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  watch Trick or Treat and Halloween.
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  We don't usu- nobody really comes to our door.
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  Oh, okay.
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  There's not a lot of activity in our neighborhood- Yeah … sadly.
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  So.
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  There are a few, but not … Every time that we've done it it's just, we
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  always end up- We sit out there and- Yeah, and we- It's not worth it … we
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  end up with, like, a ton of candy.
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  Yeah.
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  And so.
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  That's funny.
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  We don't get any trick or treaters.
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  That doesn't surprise me.
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  Yes, with our, our street of two houses on it.
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  Yeah.
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  I feel like for the next house that would be something that would be a lot of fun.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Like, to be in a big neighborhood.
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  But yeah, that … So you watch this movie every year?
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  It's like a tradition?
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  Yep.
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  And you look forward to that?
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  This is Mark's pick.
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  It is.
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  So we each have, like, our number one … like I wanna watch, which he likes it,
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  too, Ha- the original Halloween- Yeah … from 1978, and so that's my pick of the
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  movie that we have to watch every year.
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  Yeah.
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  And then he's … We watch Trick or Treat.
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  It's one of his favorites, which I like this movie.
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  I like it, too.
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  I do like it.
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  I like this movie a lot, but it's definitely more for him than it is for me.
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  But- Yeah … I, but I do like it.
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  I mean, for me it's, like, the one movie that just screams Halloween the loudest.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's, it's definitely … I mean, the, the guy, or the director
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  and the writer, Michale Dougherty, he's obsessed with Halloween- Uh-huh
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  the history of Halloween, and you can definitely tell that, you
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  know, he put that into this film.
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  Yeah.
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  And so it just, it just has this, this feel to it that's just Halloween.
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  I could see it being a part of, like, my yearly- I mean, like, every Halloween
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  season I've gotta watch Hocus Pocus.
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  Oh, we- That's like- We do too.
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  Yeah.
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  That's my favorite Halloween movie.
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  We have a handful, like, a list of movies we have to watch- Yeah … for sure.
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  I will say this.
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  If you watch this again- Yeah?
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  One of the- I will … one of the greatest things about it is that you're gonna see
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  things that you didn't notice before.
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  Oh, I can only imagine, yeah.
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  Because it's littered throughout the whole movie, stuff in the background that
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  you would've just been like, "Oh, that's just some person in the background." But
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  when you go back and watch it, you'll be like, "Oh, that's that character." Okay.
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  So you- That's exciting.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, I'll have to watch it.
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  'Cause, like, at one point I'm, I was like, "Does, do any of these stories
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  connect to each other?" And I was like, "No, they don't," but we'll get into that.
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  Okay.
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  So before we get, too carried away this movie Trick or Treat is about,
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  it's, like, what, three or four different storylines all happening
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  simultaneously on Halloween night in the city I had wr- I had it written down.
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  Written, uh, Warren Valley, Ohio.
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  Yes, where it's, like, cursed or something.
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  And but there's, like, different rituals that you have to follow to,
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  like, keep yourself safe on Halloween night, so, like, don't smash a p- or,
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  like, don't blow out your pumpkin.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Keep your c- your Halloween decorations up.
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  Um, respect the dead.
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  Always give out candy.
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  Always check your candy.
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  And then just all chaos breaks loof- loose if you do not follow every single
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  one of those rules, and it just is crazy.
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  So, you know, in this movie we see lots of Halloween costumes, so I
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  gotta know, what were your favorite Halloween costumes growing up?
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  Any super cringy ones?
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  I wouldn't say cringey, but my favorite one probably, that I felt like the
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  most proud of or whatever, was when my sister made this Belle dress.
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  Yeah.
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  Sewed it herself.
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  It was like, the quality, the craftsmanship, listen, she did her best.
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  I mean, how old was she?
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  She would've been, like, early 20s.
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  And listen- Okay … she's not, that's not a skill that she developed a lot.
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  I think she- Oh … took it upon herself to just do this.
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  'Cause I was probably six, so she would've been, yeah, early 20s.
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  And but Belle was my favorite princess- Aww … and so I, it was all in love
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  and- Yeah … she put a lot of work into it and she, like, she'll even
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  herself say that was a tragic dress.
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  But I was really proud of it.
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  Um, and they, like, curled my hair all up and, um- Oh … heavy makeup, you know?
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  Yeah.
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  But, like, I was really excited one year 'cause I wanted to be Humpty Dumpty.
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  What inspired it?
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  Just the riddle?
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  I don't know.
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  I was a strange child.
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  Like, I used to copy the dictionary for fun, okay?
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  What?
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  What?
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  I was just that kinda girl.
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  I don't know what to tell you.
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  Hmm.
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  But I wanted to be Humpty Dumpty.
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  I thought that would be… I was definitely the only one.
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  Um- So definitely an original idea.
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  Yeah.
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  And so I was all stuffed up.
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  Yeah.
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  It was egg-shaped.
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  And it was, like, basically a sheet where I was heavy at the bottom.
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  And I had white- … everything white.
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  Tights and big, like, red… Like, white face and real, uh, red cheeks.
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  And I was so proud.
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  And then we went out in my neighborhood, and all these people we passed that
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  we knew, 'cause all our neighborhood was, like, a lot of people from
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  our church, and like, you just know people from- Yeah … town.
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  So like, "Oh, Beth, you're such a cute marshmallow." And I was like, "I am
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  Humpty Dumpty, you uncultured swine."
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  Like, I was so mad.
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  I am an egg.
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  Like, how do you not know?
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  And then like insult to injury, I fell off somebody's porch.
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  But I was so padded that it didn't hurt, 'cause it was,
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  like, probably a foot or so up.
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  Wow.
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  And I fell right off of there, but there was so much, you
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  know, padding in this hill.
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  What was it padded with?
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  Probably pillow filling.
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  They probably just got some from, like, the store.
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  Yeah.
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  Probably Walmart craft area- Oh, yeah … and just shoved it in there and- They
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  used to sell, like, big bags of- Yes … like, cotton I'm sure that's- Polyfill?
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  Yes.
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  Yeah, polyfill.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm sure that's exactly what it w- what it was, 'cause I was lumpy.
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  I was Humpty lumpy Dumpty.
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  I was Humpty lumpy.
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  Um, but I mean, as you're kids, I was like, "This is cute,"
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  but everybody thought I was a marshmallow and I was big mad.
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  But we did all, like, homemade costumes.
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  I love that.
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  Like, I did not, I don't recall ever buying, like, a bagged costume.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I was never that kid.
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  Yeah.
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  Same, it was the same for us growing up.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't really recall- Like any fancy costumes anyone ever had
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  Yeah It was mostly just generic.
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  I think maybe maybe the cringiest I think there's a photo of me dressed up.
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  I got camo on.
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  I'm the army man, and I, I think my face was colored with
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  like green marker or something-
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  or you know, uh- Did that stain your face?
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  Probably.
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  Yeah.
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  But my favorite one though was when I got a little bit older, I remember I got
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  this, uh, mask from, uh, probably Walmart, and it was this glow in the dark skull-
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  skeleton mask- Okay … with like a black hood, and I just remember being so- Oh
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  … I thought that was the coolest thing.
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  'Cause you were so scary?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  That's fancy.
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  And that- You were so scary … that's the… Yeah.
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  That's- Yeah … the only one I remember that was actually store-bought
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  and it was just a mask, and I just wore black- Yep Easy … with it.
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  Yeah.
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  I think my favorite was when I was in college, um, I went as a pinata.
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  That's so fun.
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  And it was like a big cardboard box with like a like the crepe paper, like, all
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  around it, and it had like the head.
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  It was like a horse pinata.
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  And I actually like, I wore it to a couple of different things.
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  But I went to a trivia night and I won best costume.
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  Nice.
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  And I made Alek go with me, and I made him wear a poncho, like one of those- Yeah
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  like Hispanic ponchos.
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  You need to find some pictures.
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  I do.
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  Yeah, I need to see pictures of your Belle- Okay … and- We'll see if we
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  can get some and maybe we can post them.
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  Ooh, yes, that's excellent.
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  I would say my most cringy was- I went as Michael Jackson one year.
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  Okay, but what- … what version of Michael Jackson?
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  Thriller.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Thriller version.
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  Classic.
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  I did not do blackface or anything like that.
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  Right, right.
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  But I had, like… And this was, like, for a gymnastics lock-in.
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  Me and my friend, we were like, I don't know why, but we were like,
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  "We're gonna go as Michael Jackson," and she was the zombie from Thriller.
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  Yeah.
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  But I had a wig, I had, like, a leather jacket, I had a glove,
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  and I'm pretty sure I had glasses.
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  Yeah.
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  And looking back, I'm like that's weird." Like, why?
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  I don't know.
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  There was that lady in Springdale that always dressed like
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  Michael Jackson and went- That's right … and danced on the corner.
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  Just on a regular Tuesday.
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  It didn't even have to be Halloween.
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  I… And she was good.
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  She was really good.
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  She was a good dancer.
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  Yeah.
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  And so she was at the one October show we did.
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  Yeah.
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  And so I thought it was just, like, a, it was her Halloween costume.
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  And then she was like… I met her after, and she was pretty indignant.
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  I was like, "This is pretty cool."
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  So- Yeah … 'cause somebody had insinuated that she's frequently
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  dresses like Michael Jackson.
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  And so, uh, when I met her, I was like, "This is a pretty cool thing
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  that you do." And she's like, "Well, I'm not always Michael." And I was
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  like, "Okay, excuse me." And then, uh, we had another show that New Year's.
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  To be fair, it was, like, '80s and '90s themed.
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  Decades themed.
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  And she was there, and she was Michael again, which is appropriate.
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  Okay, yeah.
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  And so I was like, "Well, maybe she just already had this in her closet." It's
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  like, "This works." It's easy, yeah.
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  But then I was going to Milk & Sugar Soap place in Springdale.
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  Have you ever been there?
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  No.
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  You need to go there.
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  It's, like, all artisan soaps.
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  Okay.
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  And they make everything there.
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  Oh.
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  And everything.
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  Like, they're the, they're really pretty ones.
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  So it's like Buff City?
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  And they have all kind of… Yeah, kinda like that.
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  Okay.
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  And then they, like, make- other things, like candles and lotions-
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  Yeah … and stuff like that.
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  But I was headed that way, and she was on the street corner, Michael Jackson-
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  middle of the day.
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  But she's not always Michael.
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  And I'm like, "Well, ma'am, it seems like the only time I see you,
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  you are Michael." Now, granted, I wouldn't recognize her otherwise.
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  But she, and her, her arm was, like, perpetually in a sling.
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  I was gonna ask you If her wrist was better.
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  No, it wasn't when I saw her later.
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  But it's like she, then she said, "My doctor told me I needed to not
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  dance for a while," and she clearly was not- … following those orders.
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  I'm never gonna not dance again.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm not always Michael, and I'm not gonna stop dancing.
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  But, like, it's, seems like you are always Michael.
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  That is insane.
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  I g- I completely, 'cause th- yeah, the first time that we had come
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  out and saw, to, like, see you guys perform was at that October thing- Yeah
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  which was really fun, by the way.
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  It was fun.
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  Yeah.
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  Wow, I wonder if she's still out there.
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  I think we, like, found, like, a news article.
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  There were, like, she was, like, on the news, wasn't she?
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  Yes, or maybe on television.
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  Yeah, she was on TV.
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  Yeah.
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  And was, she was dressed up as a reindeer, I think.
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  But doing Michael Jackson dances.
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  No, I think she was Michael Jackson.
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  I think she was doing Michael Jack- Michael Jackson dances-
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  Yeah … but dressed up as a reindeer.
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  So- For, it was around Christmas.
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  Yeah.
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  As a reindeer.
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  Yeah.
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  How… legs, like- She wasn't on all fours.
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  Like, she was- She was- How hard would that… Can you moonwalk
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  on all- Could she moonwalk?
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  I, yeah, I think so.
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  Surely.
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  She did some version of it.
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  She can't be Michael if she's- Yeah, I feel like you have to-
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  … moonwalking … if you're gonna do Michael, you gotta… Did you moonwalk?
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  No, I can't dance.
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  Shannon.
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  I can't dance, girl.
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  No, and I think, like, we, like, told ourselves that we were
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  gonna, like, learn the Thriller dance, and of course, like- Uh-huh
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  that didn't.
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  No.
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  Yeah.
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  But I want, okay, so we gave awards also at this lock.
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  It was for gymnastics.
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  It was a lock-in, and I won most bad.
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  Appropriate.
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  I know.
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  Very cute.
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  Yes.
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  But looking back, it is… I do cringe a little bit.
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  I was so, my gymnastics era, I went through these really weird phases,
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  'cause that's like, that's, like, where I was really obsessed with Titanic.
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  And then we did the Michael Jackson thing, and I just, I don't know how I had friends
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  there, 'cause I was just such a weird kid.
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  I don't feel like that's crazy or weird.
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  Andy Samberg.
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  I was really obsessed with Andy Samberg too at, all in that time.
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  Anyway, so- But he's, I mean, he's an icon, so it's not like- He is an icon
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  you know.
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  And Alek kind of looks like him.
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  Alek?
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  Yeah.
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  The curly hair.
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  I've never thought about that.
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  The nose.
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  And the glasses.
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  Now I'm gonna look at, now I'm gonna have to like look closer.
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  Yeah anyway, so Good.
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  Man, the Humpty Dumpty, I don't think I could have ever had been like that
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  creative to come up with Humpty Dumpty.
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  I don't know what it w- just we loved Halloween so much- Yeah … and
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  so like, and I know we didn't do masks or anything like that.
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  We did a lot of face paint.
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  I just, that was always so fun- Yeah … to me to do 'cause otherwise
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  I didn't really… Our lives were so like- regimented, and that was the
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  one time it was, like, free night.
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  Just like you can be creative- Free to be creative … yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's, 'cause, like, it was we… Like, my brother was in sports and I was
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  in this or that, or we had church.
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  It's like something every night from the whole time I was growing up.
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  And so it was like Halloween's like one night where it's like all bets are off.
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  Okay.
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  You can just be creative.
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  You can, like, plan it out.
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  It's just something you look forward to.
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  Yeah.
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  It's a good time.
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  And like your, your parents were involved too.
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  Oh, gosh, yeah.
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  Like with Halloween, like, I mean, making your costumes and, like, painting
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  your faces- Yeah, it was definitely- … and stuff … a family thing.
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  And then by the time I got a little bit older, I didn't wanna
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  do as much for trick-or-treating.
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  I was more concerned with dressing up to be scary and stay at the house
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  and scare the trick-or-treaters that came to our house- Oh, amazing
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  with my family.
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  That was al- then that became a big, "We gotta plan what we're
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  doing to the trick-or-treaters this year," and all kinds of stuff.
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  So- That's so much fun.
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  It was a lot of fun.
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  That would be s- like, something fun to pass down too-
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  Yeah … and, like, continue.
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  'Cause, like, we didn't do anything like that growing up.
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  I mean, like, we would go trick-or-treating and stuff,
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  but, like, we never decorated.
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  I don't think we ever passed out candy at our house.
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  And so with Jay, you know, it's like, okay, we get to, we
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  get to create that magic now.
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  Yeah.
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  And so, like, what do we do?
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  I think this year he's gonna go as, I think originally we had talked
• 15:42
  about I really wanted to go as Holes.
• 15:44
  And so I would be, like, the sergeant or, no, the, what is
• 15:49
  Sigourney Weaver's character?
• 15:50
  What do they call her?
• 15:51
  The warden, I think.
• 15:53
  Yeah.
• 15:53
  The warden.
• 15:54
  Alek was gonna go as, uh, Mr. Pendanski.
• 15:57
  Okay.
• 15:57
  And then Jay would be a yellow-spotted lizard.
• 16:00
  Cute.
• 16:01
  But my brother got w- him, like, one of those, like, skeleton, like,
• 16:04
  dinosaur skeleton things, like, where you put on their head and then- Yeah.
• 16:07
  the, the spine with the tail.
• 16:08
  So we're like, obviously we, he has to go, like, as a little-
• 16:10
  Have you tried it on him?
• 16:12
  Um, he would not tolerate it.
• 16:14
  Yeah.
• 16:14
  Like, he was not putting up with it.
• 16:16
  So we'll have to try it again.
• 16:17
  Yeah.
• 16:17
  I think we got that maybe, like, a month ago or so, so maybe we'll see.
• 16:21
  But obviously we have to, like- Yeah
• 16:23
  have to be dinosaurs now, maybe Jurassic Park again.
• 16:25
  But yeah, I'm excited.
• 16:27
  What… Did you guys have, like, a route, like a trick-or-treating
• 16:30
  route or, like, a strategy?
• 16:32
  Yeah, there was, like, a… Our, our neighborhood was in a circle,
• 16:36
  and it had little loops off of it.
• 16:38
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:38
  So we would just… And some of, like, the back ways were, like,
• 16:41
  super hilly, so we'd be like no, time to turn around at that one."
• 16:44
  So it was probably, like, we had a mile route- Oh, right, yeah … to,
• 16:48
  like, when my, my parents would, like, walk in the mornings.
• 16:51
  So we'd pretty much just take that, that around- Mm-hmm … the thing 'cause
• 16:55
  then you'd start and end at the house.
• 16:57
  And it's like, "Well, this is our easy everyday morning route," so-
• 17:00
  Yeah … we just went and did that.
• 17:02
  Okay.
• 17:03
  Yeah, for us, it was just… I mean, my parents would drive me to, probably
• 17:10
  friends, family- Yeah … all that.
• 17:13
  And we would stop at those houses and do the trick-or-treat,
• 17:16
  you know, go up to the door.
• 17:17
  And then at some point, it switched to a hayride- Ooh … uh,
• 17:21
  which that was pretty fun.
• 17:22
  That is fun.
• 17:23
  Um- Love a hayride.
• 17:24
  Yeah.
• 17:25
  And so- But your… Yeah, you don't really have a good walking
• 17:28
  trick-or-treating area- No, no.
• 17:29
  Yeah, 'cause it was- … that you grew up in … yeah, it was, like, a rural area,
• 17:31
  and so everything was kinda spread out.
• 17:34
  So you couldn't really walk it.
• 17:35
  Yeah.
• 17:36
  What about you guys?
• 17:36
  Oh, yeah.
• 17:37
  We figured out, like, where the rich neighborhoods in Springdale were.
• 17:40
  Oh, yeah.
• 17:41
  And so we would hit those up 'cause they, like, Springdale is kinda, like,
• 17:44
  laid out where our house was maybe 15 minutes, like 10, 15, probably not,
• 17:49
  honestly, like, not even that far.
• 17:51
  So we would go hit that place up, like that neighborhood.
• 17:53
  Were they, like, the full-size candy bar type people?
• 17:55
  Oh, yeah.
• 17:56
  For sure.
• 17:57
  Yeah.
• 17:58
  Yeah, we weren't getting, like, toothbrushes or anything like that.
• 17:59
  It was, like, king-size Snickers, which was great.
• 18:02
  So the one that we got, and I'm curious if you guys got
• 18:05
  them too, peanut butter kisses.
• 18:08
  Peanut butter kisses.
• 18:09
  The things that are in the black or the orange wrapper?
• 18:12
  Yes.
• 18:13
  Yeah, I hated those.
• 18:14
  Oh.
• 18:14
  I hated them too, and I don't know who loved- And the
• 18:16
  strawberry granny purse candies.
• 18:18
  We got those a lot too.
• 18:18
  Oh, yeah.
• 18:19
  I'm pretty sure- Now I like them.
• 18:21
  The strawberry candies.
• 18:22
  Now you get it.
• 18:23
  Yeah.
• 18:23
  I'm pretty sure all of the adults- … were- I don't think I know what that is
• 18:27
  in on it.
• 18:27
  Because my dad liked them.
• 18:29
  Yeah.
• 18:30
  And so I think all the parents were, like, giving them out, and it was
• 18:33
  basically just- For each other?
• 18:34
  … for each other.
• 18:35
  Because I don't know anybody that liked those things.
• 18:39
  And like I s- you'd always get a ton of them.
• 18:41
  Yeah, you would.
• 18:42
  But they're, ugh, like- I think maybe they were just cheap for a big bag,
• 18:45
  'cause they're, they're simple- Oh
• 18:47
  orange and black wrapped candies.
• 18:50
  I mean, I love peanut butter stuff.
• 18:52
  I mean, I might like them now as an adult.
• 18:54
  I haven't tried them since I was a kid.
• 18:55
  That's true.
• 18:55
  You should try them.
• 18:55
  I haven't had one in a long time.
• 18:57
  Yeah, I've, I have not eaten one of these things since I was a kid.
• 19:00
  I hated them when I was a kid.
• 19:01
  Yeah.
• 19:01
  But you've got those sitting next to like a bite-sized
• 19:04
  Twix or s- Reese or something.
• 19:05
  Oh, yeah, no, it doesn't hold a candle- Like a little- … or,
• 19:08
  you know, the Reese's Pumpkins.
• 19:09
  Yeah.
• 19:10
  Oh, yeah.
• 19:11
  Oh, where are those?
• 19:12
  I haven't seen any of those out yet.
• 19:13
  Are those out yet?
• 19:14
  Oh, yeah.
• 19:14
  I'm already on my second bag.
• 19:18
  Do you put them in the freezer?
• 19:20
  Uh, the first one we did out of necessity because it was- Had melted
• 19:23
  it had melted some, for some reason.
• 19:25
  Oh, okay.
• 19:25
  I can't remember.
• 19:25
  We had to stop somewhere in the course of s- we just got this heat wave.
• 19:28
  Yeah.
• 19:30
  And so maybe that's what it was, but.
• 19:31
  They are pretty good out of the fridge.
• 19:32
  Oh, yeah.
• 19:33
  They are.
• 19:33
  'Cause then the chocolate's like really crisp and then you can like- Mm
• 19:35
  work on it, like the layers, you know?
• 19:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:37
  Yeah.
• 19:38
  Anyway.
• 19:38
  Mark doesn't eat things in layers.
• 19:40
  Oh yeah, no, I don't do, I don't do- You just- Are you talking about
• 19:42
  like you take the chocolate off and then they eat the peanut butter?
• 19:44
  Yeah.
• 19:44
  Oh yeah, no, I didn't know that.
• 19:45
  You start on the sides and you like t-, whittle your way around.
• 19:47
  Oh my goodness.
• 19:48
  Pin through.
• 19:48
  That's what she does with a Kit Kat.
• 19:49
  I know.
• 19:50
  I know, we talked about this.
• 19:51
  And then you gotta take, you like peel the top layer off of the chocolate, and
• 19:55
  then if you can you get the bottom, but usually you can't because it's so thin,
• 19:59
  and then you enjoy the peanut butter.
• 20:00
  Okay.
• 20:01
  So it's like two, it's like two candies in one.
• 20:06
  It's delicious.
• 20:07
  You should try it sometime.
• 20:09
  It's too much work.
• 20:10
  Yeah, but then, like, it lasts longer too.
• 20:12
  Like, it's, like, lasting you 30 seconds instead of five.
• 20:16
  Doesn't it, like, get melty in your hands?
• 20:17
  I mean, a little bit, but then you just- You just lick the chocolate off.
• 20:22
  Okay.
• 20:23
  Okay.
• 20:23
  Do you… Okay, which to that I ask, like, when you eat Che- do you eat Cheetos?
• 20:27
  Yeah, and that drives me nuts.
• 20:29
  Do you- Pretty much already know- Oh, that's the best part when
• 20:30
  you have a Cheeto Dust built up … do you eat the powder?
• 20:32
  Yes.
• 20:33
  You do?
• 20:33
  I mean- 'Cause I always, in public I always feel weird about it.
• 20:37
  But if I'm home- In public, yeah … so, like, at work I
• 20:40
  get, like, the SmartPop corn.
• 20:42
  Uh-huh.
• 20:42
  That's, like, the white cheddar, and I'm always like I really wanna lick
• 20:44
  my fingers, but I'm like, "Are these ladies judging me?" I mean, in public
• 20:49
  it's a little bit different, I guess.
• 20:51
  It depends on where I'm at.
• 20:53
  That's so lame.
• 20:53
  It is.
• 20:54
  Like, let me live.
• 20:55
  Just let me live.
• 20:55
  Exactly.
• 20:57
  It is.
• 20:58
  But, like, a Cheetos Puff, what, so I would not eat Cheetos Puffs in- Oh
• 21:02
  public, but the Cheetos Puffs, when you get done with that bag, there's,
• 21:05
  like, a film of the- … of the stuff- Yeah … around the edges, and you
• 21:09
  can put your finger in there and just a scoop of the… It's magical.
• 21:15
  Ooh.
• 21:15
  It's so good 'cause it's, like, greasy, fake cheese.
• 21:18
  The best kind.
• 21:19
  Oh, it's so good.
• 21:20
  That is delicious.
• 21:21
  Okay, I love it.
• 21:22
  Perfect.
• 21:22
  So, there we go.
• 21:25
  For a second I was like, "Did we do this at the scene?" Yes, we did, so-
• 21:27
  Oh, yeah, so- … Halloween night.
• 21:29
  Yeah, so I'm interested to hear what you think about this movie or, like,
• 21:33
  how you w- what you thought watching it.
• 21:36
  'Cause we've seen this movie so many times- Yeah
• 21:39
  that I was trying to really pay attention watching it, looking for
• 21:44
  things, and, like, trying to feel my feelings about it 'cause it's kind of
• 21:49
  now where it's, like, second nature.
• 21:52
  It's background.
• 21:52
  I know what's gonna happen.
• 21:54
  Okay.
• 21:54
  Yeah.
• 21:55
  So I'm interested to hear your reactions to it.
• 21:58
  Okay, I had no idea what it was about going into it, and I, just, like, the
• 22:05
  way it starts I thought it was gonna be, like, pretty straightforward.
• 22:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:08
  And, um, and then it just, it was un- it was unhinged.
• 22:13
  Yeah.
• 22:14
  It was just unhinged.
• 22:15
  And so I thought it was interesting, you know, 'cause, like, you've got the
• 22:18
  opening scene of, like, the man and the wife, which I was like, "Where is
• 22:22
  that actress?" I feel like I thought she was gonna be in it longer 'cause I
• 22:26
  feel like I've seen her in other stuff.
• 22:28
  Yeah.
• 22:28
  And I didn't look her up, so, like, that, it's okay.
• 22:30
  Her name's Leslie Bibb.
• 22:32
  But she has been in a lot of stuff.
• 22:33
  Yeah.
• 22:33
  Yeah.
• 22:34
  So I was like, okay, like, she's gonna be a prominent character, and
• 22:36
  then they killed her off so fast.
• 22:38
  And pretty quickly you get, like, okay, she, you know, like, wants to
• 22:42
  clean up, which I was like, same, girl.
• 22:44
  Like, I would wanna be, like, cleaning up the clutter, like,
• 22:47
  as soon as Halloween's over.
• 22:48
  Even after a party, after you were tired, you'd been at a party all night?
• 22:50
  I mean, probably not, but- Uh, but, uh, maybe it just depends.
• 22:55
  Like- Yeah … if I'm in my, like … I think it just depends.
• 22:59
  Yeah.
• 23:00
  Because I do hate the clutter.
• 23:02
  So when she dies right off the bat, I was like, "Well, where are we gonna go?" Like,
• 23:06
  I thought it was gonna be about these two people, but also I thought, "Okay,
• 23:10
  they're breaking another rule by, like, breaking out, like, a sex tape." Oh, yeah.
• 23:16
  That, yeah.
• 23:17
  Yeah.
• 23:17
  And then, um, he, like … He, like, passes out.
• 23:20
  Yeah.
• 23:21
  I'm like, okay, well, obviously you weren't that amped up because she's
• 23:26
  like, "Go put on the tape," and then he's just, like, passed out on the bed.
• 23:30
  I'm like, well, what was even the point in that?
• 23:33
  Because you just fell asleep.
• 23:36
  I mean, I guess he was just … It's like there's two different people.
• 23:40
  If it's like, I don't know, if there's, like, alcohol involved, right?
• 23:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:43
  'Cause, like, some people would be like, "Yeah, let's go," and
• 23:45
  then the other person's like, you know, you passed out- Yeah
• 23:48
  and then wake up later.
• 23:49
  But and then I just didn't understand, like, what the thing, like, was in her
• 23:53
  mouth whenever, like, he finally, like, reveals that she's, like- Yeah … dead.
• 23:58
  And I thought that she was hanging from the tree at first, 'cause,
• 24:01
  like, he walks out, he can't find her, and then he sees you know, an
• 24:04
  arm and a leg hanging from the tree.
• 24:06
  And so then it goes to the magazine kind … And I, I did kind of like
• 24:11
  the magazine kind of feel to it with the, you know, like, earlier that
• 24:15
  night or, like- Yeah … you know.
• 24:17
  I, I thought that was a cool touch.
• 24:19
  And so I was trying to read everything that, like, you see in
• 24:23
  the- Oh … opening credits, and I know I probably missed some.
• 24:26
  And I tried to watch, I watched this Friday, but I already know
• 24:29
  that, like, I've forgotten stuff.
• 24:31
  But, like, you know, I was like, okay, there's this town.
• 24:34
  And I think the, the bio of this movie is, like, people of this town have
• 24:39
  to join forces to, survive the night.
• 24:42
  And so I was like, "Well, interesting."
• 24:44
  That's not really accurate at all.
• 24:45
  No, that's not accurate at all.
• 24:46
  Yeah.
• 24:46
  I, well, and that, so I think that's kinda why I was like,
• 24:49
  "What?" This is so unhinged.
• 24:51
  What is going on?
• 24:52
  Yeah.
• 24:52
  And so who do we meet first?
• 24:54
  Is it, I'm trying to … So we … Is it, oh, it's like, is it the,
• 24:59
  the girls at the part, like, at, getting their Halloween costumes?
• 25:03
  Yeah.
• 25:03
  I think so.
• 25:04
  That's, that's sort of the first.
• 25:04
  Yeah.
• 25:05
  Yeah.
• 25:05
  Yeah.
• 25:06
  And so then I made a note.
• 25:08
  I was like, why is everything, well, like, why is everything about
• 25:13
  being a virgin in these darn movies?
• 25:15
  'Cause they're making fun of the sister, who also was in, oh, I feel
• 25:18
  like has been in a lot of stuff.
• 25:20
  I think, was she the, like, main girl in True Blood?
• 25:23
  I didn't watch that show, but I think she was- I, I didn't watch that
• 25:25
  show … anyway, so I was like, okay, like, there's, like, recognizable people.
• 25:30
  Yeah.
• 25:31
  Or maybe… Okay, actually, I think the first thing that you see is Charlie.
• 25:38
  Oh.
• 25:38
  Dragging the bag.
• 25:39
  With his street juice all over the pillowcase.
• 25:42
  Yes.
• 25:42
  Disgusting little boy.
• 25:43
  So also in that scene you will see Mr. Wilkins coming out of
• 25:47
  a s- store with his groceries.
• 25:48
  Okay.
• 25:49
  Which- Who's the principal … the principal.
• 25:51
  Yeah.
• 25:51
  Okay.
• 25:52
  And then, like, the girls, they pass the robot guy, the two
• 25:55
  people at the very beginning.
• 25:57
  They literally bump into them on the street.
• 25:59
  Oh.
• 26:00
  Yeah.
• 26:00
  Yeah.
• 26:00
  So, like, the opening scene, and, and, technically the opening scene is
• 26:03
  actually the very end of the movie.
• 26:05
  Yeah.
• 26:05
  And so- Right … you will see this girl, you can't see her face at the time,
• 26:08
  but you see this girl pulling a wagon.
• 26:10
  That's Rhonda coming from the rock quarry.
• 26:12
  Freaking Rhonda.
• 26:14
  Wow.
• 26:14
  In the car with the werewolf girls pulling up at the same time.
• 26:17
  Okay.
• 26:18
  So that's, like, their- Yeah.
• 26:20
  So they all cross paths in some ways.
• 26:23
  Like, they just, they don't necessarily interact, but they're-
• 26:27
  right on top of each other.
• 26:29
  Yeah.
• 26:29
  And which is cool to see that over time.
• 26:31
  Like, you start to point out those there or recognize them
• 26:34
  the, the more you watch through.
• 26:36
  Yeah.
• 26:36
  Yeah.
• 26:37
  But yeah, Charlie, good Lord.
• 26:39
  So yeah, he's, like, pushing these pumpkins off the fence, and I was
• 26:43
  like, I put, what's that chubby kid got against those pumpkins?
• 26:48
  And so, and then he, like, comes up, I guess it's Mr. Wilkins' house,
• 26:52
  and he's got the take one sign.
• 26:54
  Mm-hmm.
• 26:54
  Which I asked, did y'all follow that rule as kids?
• 26:58
  Like- Yeah.
• 26:59
  Oh, yeah.
• 26:59
  Yeah.
• 26:59
  You did?
• 27:00
  I think I did.
• 27:01
  I'm sure.
• 27:01
  I mean, I never encountered it, to be fair.
• 27:03
  You never did?
• 27:04
  No, because like I said, we were going to- Oh, like, friends' houses and
• 27:08
  stuff … friends' houses and stuff, and so I never encountered that.
• 27:10
  But if I had, I would've.
• 27:11
  Okay.
• 27:12
  And you did too?
• 27:13
  Yeah, I mean, it was rare there weren't a lot of people who just
• 27:16
  left a candy- they just turned off their light and didn't have anything.
• 27:18
  Oh, yeah.
• 27:19
  But on the rare occasion where somebody would've left a bowl,
• 27:22
  I would've taken just one.
• 27:23
  Yeah.
• 27:24
  I mean, you're choosing, though, like, what you're taking.
• 27:26
  Absolutely.
• 27:26
  It's like you're digging through.
• 27:27
  For sure, yeah.
• 27:28
  Yeah.
• 27:29
  So he, like, took more than, he took more than a couple-
• 27:33
  Mm … or more than one, I guess.
• 27:34
  Oh, he dumped the whole thing in his- Oh, did he really?
• 27:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:36
  I missed that.
• 27:37
  He ate a lot, yeah.
• 27:38
  And then it's the principal shows up, and he's like- … "It's not good
• 27:42
  for your diabetes, Charlie." Yeah.
• 27:44
  And he's just so, like, calm and stuff, and then he comes up, and then
• 27:48
  he's, like, wielding this huge knife.
• 27:50
  And so, I, I asked, "Knife safety, Mark?"
• 27:54
  'Cause, like, you're always like, "That's not safe to do with a gun," and so I
• 27:56
  was like, Mark's gonna have something to say about he's just, like, wielding
• 27:59
  this big old butcher knife around.
• 28:02
  Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 28:03
  'Cause I feel like carving a pumpkin- Yeah, especially when
• 28:05
  you're dealing with a gourd.
• 28:06
  You know, like, 'cause I think of, like, cutting a spaghetti squash or something.
• 28:09
  Yeah.
• 28:09
  Mark's always really weird when I n- wanna cut a spaghetti squash.
• 28:13
  He's like, "Do you need me to do that for you?" I'm like, "I'm an adult." But it
• 28:16
  is hard to get the knife through there.
• 28:18
  Yes.
• 28:18
  And a pumpkin's similar to that.
• 28:20
  I mean, it's hard to, you know.
• 28:22
  Yeah.
• 28:22
  You don't have a lot of control.
• 28:24
  No.
• 28:24
  So a couple years ago Alek and I went camping in Silver Dollar City
• 28:27
  or, like, by Silver Dollar City, and then we went to the Pumpkins in the
• 28:30
  City, and we watched, like- So fun
• 28:32
  it was beautiful.
• 28:33
  Yeah.
• 28:34
  And we, we watched this, uh, pumpkin carving master, and he was talking
• 28:38
  about how it's actually the safest to carve a pumpkin in your lap.
• 28:43
  Where you're going, like, down at it?
• 28:44
  Yeah.
• 28:45
  Interesting.
• 28:46
  'Cause like, he's like, "You have more control that way." And I was
• 28:48
  like, "No, I'm not doing that."
• 28:50
  That seems risky, but- That seems- I guess he would
• 28:52
  know … one wrong move and- Yeah.
• 28:55
  But did you feel like, did you come across the big party?
• 28:57
  Were you there at night?
• 28:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:59
  Did you come across the huge party with the biggest blowup pumpkins
• 29:02
  you've ever seen in your life?
• 29:03
  Yes, it's like down you can like, see it from the street.
• 29:05
  Yes, I felt like we had stumbled upon that.
• 29:08
  Like, Halloweentown.
• 29:08
  And I felt like I had walked into a movie.
• 29:11
  It was so magical to me.
• 29:12
  It made my heart so happy.
• 29:14
  Yeah.
• 29:14
  I was like, "I didn't know a place like this existed." I know.
• 29:17
  And like, as an adult, 'cause like, you know, like that part of
• 29:19
  the park is like, for the kids.
• 29:21
  Yeah.
• 29:21
  And so, but like, when we went there, it was like, bubbles everywhere too.
• 29:25
  Uh-huh.
• 29:25
  And yeah, it was, it was pretty magical.
• 29:26
  All kinds of black light stuff.
• 29:27
  Everybody… There was a big DJ, dancing, everybody, and I was like,
• 29:30
  "Oh, just let me walk around here for a while. I don't care." Yeah.
• 29:33
  Like, we didn't have a kid or anything with us so I'm like,
• 29:35
  "Well, this is kinda weird," but this is like, this is my scene.
• 29:39
  This is my pe- This is where I wanna be … my people.
• 29:41
  Yeah.
• 29:41
  Yes.
• 29:42
  Wouldn't it… Has Halloween always been your favorite holiday?
• 29:46
  I've always really liked it.
• 29:47
  Is it?
• 29:48
  It's just something our family always did together.
• 29:50
  Yeah.
• 29:50
  So I would say yeah, it's probably been a favorite,
• 29:54
  yeah.
• 29:54
  Yeah.
• 29:54
  That's good.
• 29:56
  Is it your favorite holiday?
• 29:57
  It is.
• 29:58
  Okay.
• 29:59
  And has it always been?
• 30:00
  No, I don't think so.
• 30:02
  Um, I've always really liked it.
• 30:04
  Yeah.
• 30:04
  But I think probably once we met- … and then it just kind of grew into that,
• 30:09
  'cause it was something that we, we both really liked- Yeah … and bonded over.
• 30:15
  And so over time it's just become this, this thing.
• 30:18
  I probably look forward to fall way more than I look forward
• 30:21
  to winter- Oh, for sure.
• 30:23
  Yeah … in general, so.
• 30:24
  Yeah.
• 30:25
  So yeah, it's just become not only my favorite holiday, but my
• 30:28
  favorite time of year all together.
• 30:29
  Yeah.
• 30:30
  Yeah.
• 30:31
  I have grown into like the person that like I want to put my
• 30:36
  Christmas stuff up like- Mm-hmm
• 30:37
  November 1st.
• 30:38
  I don't wanna listen to Christmas music yet, but I like fall and I
• 30:42
  do, like Halloween's fun, but like then I am excited for Christmas.
• 30:47
  And as a, like a new mom, it's like, okay, how do we create like that magic for Jay?
• 30:53
  Yeah.
• 30:54
  And so that will be fun, like watching him grow up- … and figuring out like
• 30:57
  what that's gonna look like for us.
• 30:58
  But anyway, um, so Charlie.
• 31:02
  So they're, they're, you know, carving this pumpkin.
• 31:05
  This principal is like flinging this knife everywhere, and then
• 31:10
  he's eating candy- And in all caps I go, "What the H-E-L-L?" Yeah.
• 31:19
  And this kid starts puking and, like, you can hear, like, his stomach gurgling.
• 31:25
  Sounds like he's either about to, like, blow up or poop himself or vomit.
• 31:31
  Luckily he threw up everywhere.
• 31:33
  And it's just… It's like you s- It starts off and
• 31:35
  it's, like, just a little bit.
• 31:37
  Right?
• 31:38
  And I'm like, "Okay." And then I'm like, Principal Wilkins was just
• 31:42
  trying to, like, prove a point, 'cause he didn't check his candy.
• 31:44
  And then there's more, and then there's more.
• 31:47
  And then I'm like, this kid is gonna puke his actual guts up.
• 31:51
  Yeah.
• 31:51
  And then basically he does.
• 31:53
  I mean, you don't see, like, any guts or anything, but it's just so much blood.
• 31:57
  It's bad.
• 31:58
  And the noise.
• 31:58
  Like, I can't watch it.
• 32:00
  I don't u- I don't have, like, a, a weak stomach, 'cause… and I can handle a
• 32:04
  lot of gore, but that s- that particular scene, like, it does something to me.
• 32:09
  I just, I can't.
• 32:11
  And so then I just won't watch it, I'll just look down.
• 32:13
  But the noise- Oh, yeah … is so assaulting to me.
• 32:18
  I agree.
• 32:19
  And I'm just like, I'm, a, I just have to, like, hang on for dear life.
• 32:22
  I'm like, it'll be over in a second.
• 32:23
  It'll be over, it'll be over.
• 32:24
  Just keep your contents of your stomach inside of yourself now.
• 32:29
  It's- So- … such a good job … does it help to know that
• 32:32
  it's chocolate syrup with thickener?
• 32:34
  No, not really.
• 32:35
  I was gonna say, it's so thick.
• 32:37
  Yeah.
• 32:37
  It is also very brown, but then when it's on Wilkins' shirt, it's blood.
• 32:40
  Yeah.
• 32:40
  Yeah, I think it starts out as brown because he's eating,
• 32:42
  like, a chocolate candy bar.
• 32:43
  Oh, so gross.
• 32:44
  And then, you know, like you said, he's, like, puking so much.
• 32:48
  But- Yeah … I did see a thing where the director got his inspiration
• 32:51
  from that from The Exorcist.
• 32:54
  Oh.
• 32:54
  Oh.
• 32:54
  And so that's… I guess that's why there was so much vomiting in that scene.
• 32:59
  Well, I'ma tell you, you weren't awake.
• 33:02
  But when I got sick, when I went into DKA, it was very much like that.
• 33:09
  Not blood, but- Oh, okay.
• 33:11
  I was like, "Beth!" … the, the volume and the force.
• 33:15
  Oh my gosh.
• 33:16
  'Cause I'd alwa- Like, that scene honestly hits different now.
• 33:20
  And I'm like, "Oh, that takes me back to-" Mm … that experience.
• 33:26
  So that's some PTSD.
• 33:27
  It was bad, yeah.
• 33:29
  I mean, it, it's, it… So I was like when I would watch that,
• 33:32
  I'm like, "That's excessive.
• 33:34
  It would never…" And I'm like, "Well-" But now- It's possible.
• 33:37
  Can I just tell you, you had texted me that morning, and you were like,
• 33:41
  "I am not feeling well." I did.
• 33:43
  And I don't remember- I forgot about that … what exactly I had said to you.
• 33:46
  I think I said, "Maybe you should go get checked out at urgent care or something."
• 33:50
  Maybe.
• 33:50
  And then Mark s- in our group text, he's like, "Hey, maybe pray for Beth.
• 33:56
  Like, maybe…" She- he was like, "She wouldn't stay still, so they
• 34:00
  had to put a tube in her." And I'm thinking, "Oh my God." So I texted
• 34:04
  Mark and I said, "Bro, I'm so sorry.
• 34:06
  I didn't realize it was that serious." And he goes, "Well, what
• 34:08
  she also didn't tell you was that she was having trouble breathing."
• 34:11
  And I was like, "Oh, okay." Well, I thought it was just really bad heartburn.
• 34:18
  And it probably was.
• 34:19
  It was.
• 34:20
  But there was a little more to it.
• 34:21
  It was that.
• 34:21
  There was that.
• 34:21
  But there was also some other stuff.
• 34:22
  And if, if I had gone to Walgreens to get- Yeah, 'cause I wanted some
• 34:27
  Tums or something like that … you wanted some Tums or something, I
• 34:28
  don't remember what it was, but you wouldn't be sitting here right now.
• 34:31
  No, yeah.
• 34:32
  No, there were a lot of things that if they hadn't gone exactly just so-
• 34:36
  Mm-hmm … I wouldn't be- 'Cause I, I- … which is crazy … I was starting
• 34:38
  to pick up that something was very wrong.
• 34:41
  Oh my goodness.
• 34:42
  But I did.
• 34:43
  Thank goodness.
• 34:43
  And bless his heart, Mark, he cleaned all that up in the Airbnb.
• 34:47
  Oh, Mark.
• 34:49
  You are seriously, like- He's too good
• 34:51
  one of the sweetest souls that I've ever met.
• 34:53
  Too good.
• 34:54
  Yeah.
• 34:54
  Like, Mark.
• 34:56
  Oh, man.
• 34:57
  I gotta tell you, so- We talk about gross things on this
• 35:00
  podcast- We do … apparently.
• 35:01
  Yeah.
• 35:02
  We like scary movies, but we also talk about poop involvement, I guess.
• 35:05
  Yep.
• 35:05
  Um, I had been back at work for maybe, like, two days b- after
• 35:09
  maternity leave, and Alek and I and Jay had gone to Taco Tuesday, as we
• 35:14
  do, and Cliff had made Italian beef.
• 35:17
  Like s- Okay … you know, like, sandwiches.
• 35:19
  Have you ever had Cassie's Italian beef?
• 35:23
  It's, like, roast and- I'm sure- … like, pepperoncini-
• 35:26
  Yes … and that … I'm sure we have.
• 35:27
  Yeah.
• 35:27
  Oh, it's so good.
• 35:28
  Yeah.
• 35:28
  So we had that, and then on the way home Alek was like, "Yeah, I'm not feeling
• 35:32
  too good." And I was like, "Here we go."
• 35:34
  I am not very sympathetic toward, like, towards sweet Alek whenever he gets sick.
• 35:39
  I should be better.
• 35:40
  But, like, we got home and he's like, trying not to vomit, and I'm like, "Okay,
• 35:44
  whatever. I'm gonna go deal with, you know, our, our son." And so I'm, like,
• 35:48
  rocking Jay, trying to get him to sleep, and Alek's, like, laying in bed, and he
• 35:51
  just gets up and he bolts out the room.
• 35:53
  And I was like, "Oh my God." It was like I knew he was gonna throw up.
• 35:57
  And instead of coming to, like, this trash can right here, he tries to go
• 36:01
  to the bathroom, and I just hear him vomit- Oh … all over the floor,
• 36:06
  'cause he didn't make it in time.
• 36:07
  Yep.
• 36:08
  And I was like, "Babe," like, "you leave it.
• 36:10
  I'll take care of it." And he cleaned up, he cleaned it up
• 36:13
  before I could get in there.
• 36:15
  And it's a good thing, because I stepped in the hallway and I could smell it.
• 36:18
  Ugh, yeah.
• 36:18
  And I was like, "Yeah, I probably wouldn't have-" That smell.
• 36:22
  It's so bad I- It's so bad … can't handle it.
• 36:25
  Like, whether it's my own or somebody else's, that is the thing.
• 36:30
  I don't get sympathetic puking.
• 36:34
  I don't do that.
• 36:34
  Like, if I see somebody else- Oh, yeah, I don't get- It does,
• 36:36
  that doesn't really have…
• 36:37
  Or if somebody's gagging, I'm not, like… It doesn't happen to me.
• 36:40
  But that smell- Yeah … I c- That'll do it … cannot.
• 36:44
  And so, like, there have been twi- two times I can think of- Like when
• 36:50
  I was very, very sick in Salem, and then one other time I had a virus
• 36:56
  and we were in our house that had carpet- … and I didn't make it.
• 37:00
  And Mark- Oh, no.
• 37:01
  Mark, you cleaned it up?
• 37:02
  He's so good.
• 37:04
  You are such a good man.
• 37:05
  He's so good.
• 37:06
  Oh, my goodness gracious.
• 37:09
  Seriously, though, like husband of the year right here.
• 37:13
  Yeah.
• 37:13
  Yeah.
• 37:13
  Wow.
• 37:14
  But, and I… Like, he doesn't get sick much.
• 37:18
  Or if you do, like, you're, yeah, please, God, 'cause I don't know if I
• 37:22
  can be as good as you, I'm telling you.
• 37:24
  Or if he do- Like, I'm sure you've thrown up since we've been together.
• 37:28
  Yeah.
• 37:28
  Yeah.
• 37:28
  Yeah, when's the last time you threw up?
• 37:29
  But, like, he usually just he makes it… He has a bucket or he, he- No, I go, I go
• 37:33
  camp out by the toilet … he'll, yeah.
• 37:35
  Oh, okay.
• 37:36
  So, like, it's not- I kind of- It's contained I, I go… If you
• 37:39
  can kind of- You don't risk it.
• 37:39
  No, yeah, I don't.
• 37:40
  'Cause if I f- There's a feeling you get.
• 37:42
  Yeah.
• 37:43
  Yeah.
• 37:43
  And sometimes you get it early.
• 37:45
  Yeah.
• 37:46
  Yeah.
• 37:47
  I will sit in there for a hour or two hours and I'll just wait.
• 37:50
  I'll just wait.
• 37:51
  'Cause I hate, that's the one thing I hate more than anything, I hate throwing up.
• 37:55
  I know.
• 37:55
  Me too.
• 37:55
  I hate it.
• 37:55
  I would do anything to avoid it.
• 37:58
  It's not fun, but I don't… Like if it happens, it happens.
• 38:02
  I hate it.
• 38:03
  Like, I will do any possible way- … to not have that happen, and, like,
• 38:08
  just power through and not do it.
• 38:09
  I'm gonna have to put, like, a trigger warning on this.
• 38:11
  Yeah, true.
• 38:12
  But, like, that's, a- although, usually if you would just get it
• 38:16
  over with- Then you feel better
• 38:18
  you feel better.
• 38:18
  And I know that.
• 38:19
  Yeah.
• 38:22
  Like, I, I just- You can't do it?
• 38:23
  I hate it so much.
• 38:25
  Can I tell you a really gross story?
• 38:26
  Yes, always.
• 38:27
  Okay.
• 38:27
  So this was in our last year of college, and that last year of nursing school
• 38:31
  too, and me and my good friends, we decided to have, like, a delayed New
• 38:35
  Year's Eve party at our apartment.
• 38:37
  And like, I've had gl- like wine, like, recording this, like, you know, like,
• 38:42
  we c- we're very, like, we don't drink a whole lot, but, like, w- we will drink.
• 38:47
  And so at this time in college, we drank quite a bit more.
• 38:49
  And, um, so we had been, you know, drinking and, and so my friend who was…
• 38:56
  There were, like, I don't know, seven or eight of us, and my friend Rosa was
• 39:01
  like, "I need some I- some Waffle House."
• 39:03
  And of course it's, like, past midnight, and we're like, "Oh my gosh, yeah,
• 39:05
  like, let's go to Waffle House." So we all pile into this car, me
• 39:10
  my friend Meg, and my friend Grace.
• 39:12
  We were, we had, had way too much to drink obviously.
• 39:15
  So we get to Waffle House, and, like, the three of us go to the single
• 39:18
  stall ladies bathroom, and that's just where it all goes downhill.
• 39:24
  You all went in the one stall?
• 39:25
  Yeah.
• 39:26
  Yeah.
• 39:26
  Okay.
• 39:27
  I mean, that doesn't bother me.
• 39:30
  I'm just, I mean, like- But yes … the logistics of it are just- Oh, it's small.
• 39:35
  Okay.
• 39:35
  Small bathroom.
• 39:36
  Okay.
• 39:37
  Yeah.
• 39:38
  Three drunk girls, yes.
• 39:39
  Yeah.
• 39:40
  So someone's sitting on the toilet having diarrhea.
• 39:44
  I think I am feeling nauseous, and then my friend Megan starts to throw up,
• 39:50
  but my friend Grace is on the toilet.
• 39:52
  Oh.
• 39:53
  She's also throwing up.
• 39:54
  So Megan starts throwing up, too, but in the sink.
• 39:58
  I sober up.
• 39:59
  It's like a bridesmaids kinda- Yes.
• 40:01
  Oh, no.
• 40:02
  I had to sober up so quickly because I was like, "We're gonna
• 40:05
  get, like-" Yeah … public intox.
• 40:07
  Yeah.
• 40:07
  And, like, we're g- like, gonna, like, lose our nursing
• 40:09
  license before we even get them.
• 40:11
  And then Megan clogs up the sink.
• 40:17
  So you- Oh … so you know what I did?
• 40:19
  You didn't.
• 40:20
  I did.
• 40:22
  Tell me you didn't.
• 40:24
  With your hand?
• 40:25
  What else did I have?
• 40:27
  I don't know.
• 40:29
  I didn't have anything else.
• 40:31
  I scooped it up.
• 40:32
  Oh.
• 40:32
  'Cause I had to… I mean, it clogged up the sink.
• 40:34
  This is at a Waffle House.
• 40:35
  Yeah.
• 40:36
  Oh.
• 40:36
  This is at a Waffle House.
• 40:38
  I'm not okay.
• 40:39
  I gu- So I know I said I don't get a weak stomach.
• 40:44
  I mean- That, the thought of handling- It's all right.
• 40:50
  You don't have to- … someone else's- No, you don't have to.
• 40:52
  Oh my gosh.
• 40:53
  Mark's like, you don't have to say it.
• 40:55
  It's… Well, yeah, yeah.
• 40:56
  Yeah.
• 40:57
  So I did that.
• 40:59
  I'm not that good of a friend.
• 41:01
  Oh, I'm not a great friend.
• 41:02
  I'm not gonna say that.
• 41:03
  But I was, in the moment, I was like, "We're gonna get arrested.
• 41:06
  We're gonna get arrested." But we didn't.
• 41:09
  So really it was self-preservation- Yeah … not friendship.
• 41:12
  But then afterward, when we got back home, I did wash her hair.
• 41:16
  I like had her like- Yeah … you know, overnight washed her hair
• 41:18
  'cause like- Yeah … she had gotten like stuff in her hair.
• 41:19
  But yeah.
• 41:20
  I did that.
• 41:21
  Oh, golly.
• 41:21
  But now as a nurse, I mean, I deal with stuff all the time.
• 41:25
  Yeah.
• 41:25
  You, yeah.
• 41:26
  You don't even wanna know what I had to do last week, so I mean, actually I
• 41:31
  kinda do, but so you can tell me later.
• 41:34
  'Cause I feel like it always comes back to the- We're gonna
• 41:36
  lose, we're gonna lose people.
• 41:37
  They're like- They're gonna be like, "No, those they always talk about- Yeah
• 41:41
  poop and vomit." Or if there's like a timestamp, they're gonna be like,
• 41:43
  "All right, an hour in is when they actually start the freaking-" I mean,
• 41:47
  we haven't even… So there's- Okay, but they set us up for it with Charlie.
• 41:51
  So he, he's done puking, and then he just keels over.
• 41:54
  Yeah.
• 41:54
  And I was like, "Oh my gosh, is he dead?
• 41:57
  Is he dead?" And so then he like, Mr. Wilkins like drags
• 42:02
  him back in the house, right?
• 42:04
  And then oh, what do you know, Mr. Wilkins, he's got trick-or-treaters.
• 42:08
  And so he goes to this door with blood all on his shirt.
• 42:12
  But it actually made me think of that episode of The Office when
• 42:15
  Creed shows up to the office-
• 42:16
  and he's like also covered in blood- Yeah … on Halloween.
• 42:20
  And he's like, "That is, that's a good timing." And so I'm like, "Well, maybe
• 42:26
  that's just his Halloween costume." I guess, but like what a terrible criminal.
• 42:31
  He was awful.
• 42:33
  He didn't, he was not covering anything up well.
• 42:36
  No.
• 42:36
  'Cause like he also… Okay, so you're covered in blood.
• 42:40
  There's also all this junk on your stoop that the kids are like, "Ugh." And then
• 42:47
  … And then he has it covered all over him.
• 42:50
  They're kinda like, "What is wrong with you?" Yeah.
• 42:53
  You didn't have to open the door.
• 42:56
  They're like, "We know you're in there." I don't care.
• 42:58
  I'm an adult.
• 42:59
  Yeah, this is my house.
• 43:00
  You're the… Not those little kids.
• 43:01
  And he didn't have to do that.
• 43:03
  And then when he was in his backyard, he bribed the dog with a finger.
• 43:07
  "Here, let me- Literal DNA … let me give you evidence and
• 43:10
  just let a dog take it." Yes.
• 43:13
  Yes.
• 43:13
  Terrible criminal.
• 43:14
  And then he, there are some other things that we'll get into later, but like he's
• 43:17
  like my least favorite charac- well-
• 43:20
  He's one of my two least favorite characters in this whole thing, that
• 43:23
  I'm just like, "You- No, he did suck
• 43:25
  you're just awful." But- You're not even good at what you're doing.
• 43:28
  But I did love the actor's portrayal of this character.
• 43:33
  You do?
• 43:34
  Oh, yeah.
• 43:35
  I feel like he's such a weaselly man.
• 43:36
  Well, yeah.
• 43:37
  I mean, he's- Well, but he fits the- Yeah … fits the bill.
• 43:39
  Point, but ugh.
• 43:41
  Yeah.
• 43:42
  I just, I don't like a weasel.
• 43:45
  I can't.
• 43:45
  Like Bear in Obsession- Mm
• 43:47
  and all these just icky, non- 'Cause he was, he was- Lousy
• 43:52
  men … he was super icky.
• 43:53
  Yes.
• 43:53
  He was- Yeah … I mean, he just, he nailed the part.
• 43:56
  Yeah, he did.
• 43:57
  I guess so.
• 43:57
  He's been in other stuff.
• 43:58
  He looks familiar.
• 44:00
  But I also don't know if it's 'cause I've seen this movie 50-11 times.
• 44:02
  Maybe.
• 44:04
  I thought the whole thing was so funny, like when he's
• 44:06
  like trying to bury this kid-
• 44:08
  and then like his own son is like, "Hey, Dad- Yeah … can I pick our pumpkins?"
• 44:12
  And he's like trying… Which, okay, so he goes through this whole thing,
• 44:16
  and then his neighbor comes out, 'cause he's like, "What's all that yelling?"
• 44:19
  Like, "What's he, what are you barking at, dog?" And he's like peeping through,
• 44:23
  like- Out of like- Through this hole- Yeah
• 44:26
  in his- Yeah … in his fence.
• 44:27
  And he's like, "Oh, it's just a sewer problem," still covered in blood.
• 44:32
  Yeah.
• 44:33
  And then I guess this kid is like also still alive though, 'cause
• 44:36
  he's like trying to fight him.
• 44:38
  Yeah.
• 44:38
  But I have questions.
• 44:40
  I do, too.
• 44:41
  What are your questions?
• 44:42
  Well, how?
• 44:43
  When does his head cu- get cut off?
• 44:45
  That's the thing that I just noticed when watching it through this time.
• 44:49
  Because, A, there was already a body in the hole.
• 44:52
  Oh, I didn't notice the body in the hole.
• 44:53
  Which I had never noticed before.
• 44:55
  When he threw this sack in the hole, there was already a body in there.
• 44:59
  And this kid was clearly not Charlie.
• 45:02
  I have, every time I watched it- 'Cause he had a white glove on … thought it was
• 45:04
  Charlie, but he's in a different costume.
• 45:06
  Oh, yeah, no.
• 45:07
  Yeah And he has his head and everything, but then you find out later that
• 45:10
  Charlie's head is in the basement.
• 45:12
  Yeah.
• 45:13
  Yeah, no, it's, it's like a kid dressed up like a clown.
• 45:15
  So where did he get all these people?
• 45:18
  Well, he's, he's a very twisted human being, as we see throughout the movie.
• 45:22
  He's probably kidnapping them It's like, uh, this is also the thing that I still-
• 45:26
  He's poison- he's poisoning candy.
• 45:27
  He is like the embodiment of all of the lore or the urban
• 45:34
  legends of Halloween, right?
• 45:36
  It's very pick me.
• 45:37
  I don't like it.
• 45:37
  He's doing too much.
• 45:39
  Principal, candy poisoner, mutilator- Vampire … vampire.
• 45:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 45:43
  It's too much Serial killer.
• 45:45
  You're doing too much, Wilkins.
• 45:47
  Yes, it's too much.
• 45:49
  And it, it gets him.
• 45:50
  Pick one.
• 45:50
  It gets him.
• 45:50
  Yeah, you don't get to be everything.
• 45:52
  He, he doesn't.
• 45:53
  No.
• 45:54
  No, he doesn't.
• 45:54
  So yeah, it's like, is this a yearly thing that he does if there's a- the other body?
• 46:00
  Or like- Well- I think so, 'cause it… did you see all the masks on the
• 46:03
  wall in the- Yeah I assumed that those were people he had gotten, like kids.
• 46:09
  Crazy.
• 46:10
  So then you think the son's innocent- Yeah … just, like, trying to like, you know-
• 46:14
  And then he's- … enjoy Halloween with his dad … stabbed his son in the head.
• 46:17
  You think he's killed his kid.
• 46:19
  I literally, yeah, thought that he stabbed his kid, and
• 46:21
  like, what happened to his mom?
• 46:24
  They don't ever say.
• 46:24
  They don't address that, I don't think.
• 46:25
  Just an- I think his mom died, though.
• 46:27
  Yeah.
• 46:27
  Yeah.
• 46:27
  Um- She's probably in the backyard.
• 46:30
  Probably.
• 46:31
  So yeah, I literally was like, "Oh," like, "don't tell me he kills his son," and then
• 46:37
  turns out it's, no, it's just Charlie.
• 46:38
  They're carve the… I, I guess they're gonna carve Charlie's head
• 46:41
  together- Yeah … is the thing.
• 46:45
  And then tell me what that little- That's freaking- … terrible little
• 46:47
  demon child, and then I felt bad for him when he's sitting on his stoop.
• 46:51
  By himself.
• 46:52
  By himself, dad's not coming home.
• 46:53
  Nope.
• 46:54
  Dressed up like his dad.
• 46:55
  Yes.
• 46:56
  I know.
• 46:57
  I also felt sad for him, 'cause he doesn't know.
• 47:00
  I mean, he, he deserve all, deserves bad things, but does he know any
• 47:05
  better- I don't know … if that's like, "This is what Dad and I do"?
• 47:08
  I have a feeling that, I don't know if we'll ever get a sequel,
• 47:13
  but I wouldn't be surprised if he grows up just like his dad.
• 47:17
  I hope not.
• 47:18
  Yeah, I need to know, like, what happens to him after.
• 47:20
  Like, does he go into foster care?
• 47:22
  Yeah.
• 47:22
  Does he kill those kids?
• 47:24
  Does he, he's like, "Well, this is what we would do"- Yeah … and
• 47:28
  then he's like, "Ha ha.
• 47:29
  I'm just kidding." Yeah.
• 47:31
  You know?
• 47:31
  And then they find out, I mean, they're gonna find all the bodies.
• 47:35
  There's a big gaping hole in the backyard that he never filled in- Yeah … so
• 47:37
  they gotta come and get the kids.
• 47:38
  No, they, they, he filled it in, 'cause it showed him, he had it
• 47:41
  all filled in- Oh, he was watering it Oh … and he was watering it.
• 47:43
  That's right.
• 47:43
  Oh, that's right, he did.
• 47:44
  But it's like a very obvious, like, mound.
• 47:46
  Yeah.
• 47:46
  Oh, yeah.
• 47:46
  Well, yeah, I'm sure.
• 47:47
  Perfectly rectangular- Yeah, yeah … body-sized hole.
• 47:52
  Oh, my gosh, yeah.
• 47:54
  So that was- That was my introduction- … to this movie.
• 48:00
  And so I was like, I couldn't have predicted anything
• 48:02
  that was about to happen.
• 48:03
  No.
• 48:04
  Just then.
• 48:04
  And then you swap to the kids looking for the pumpkins.
• 48:10
  Yeah.
• 48:11
  And that, then that whole thing went left.
• 48:15
  Yes.
• 48:16
  Let me scroll down because I think, I think the order… 'Cause I, like,
• 48:20
  do my notes like, as like you said, just like a stream of consciousness.
• 48:23
  Mm-hmm.
• 48:23
  So it's like the, the girl, like, the teenage girls,
• 48:27
  like, looking for their dates.
• 48:29
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:30
  Which I thought that was interesting, too.
• 48:31
  I mean, obviously, like, once you get to the end, you know, like, what's going on.
• 48:36
  But I just thought, they were like, "Oh, we're, we're from out of town.
• 48:38
  We're going to this party. Like, do you wanna be our dates?" And so I was
• 48:41
  like, you're just asking… Which, first of all, like, that was just a life
• 48:44
  that I never was destined to live- No
• 48:45
  like just being able to, like, pick up, like, random dudes, which
• 48:48
  I'm, I'm grateful for, right?
• 48:49
  Like, it's, it's a good thing.
• 48:51
  But I I was like, man, like, what kind of party?
• 48:54
  Like, what- Yeah … what are we doing here?
• 48:56
  And then they're making a big deal out of, like, it's the sister's,
• 48:59
  like, she hasn't, like, had sex yet.
• 49:02
  And so then I was like, why is this such a big deal in all these movies?
• 49:05
  And then I think it, like the sisters go off, like the sister
• 49:10
  and her friend just leave her.
• 49:12
  Yeah.
• 49:12
  And I'm like, "Well, where'd they go?" 'Cause she was
• 49:13
  like, "I can find my own date.
• 49:14
  My own date is fine." Yeah. And her older, her sister didn't want her
• 49:19
  to, but she was like, "No, it's fine.
• 49:21
  I'll figure it out." And then she called and was like, "I found you a guy." I know.
• 49:26
  I was so confused.
• 49:27
  I was like, this guy is, like, not it.
• 49:30
  Well, yeah, 'cause at the time you don't really know, you don't know, you
• 49:33
  think it's just a date for a party.
• 49:35
  Yeah.
• 49:36
  And 'cause, like, also when you watch back the scene, like a lot
• 49:39
  of the stuff that they say have, will have, like, a double meaning.
• 49:43
  Okay.
• 49:43
  Like, when they're in the, um, dressing rooms and they're talking, you can
• 49:47
  hear bits and pieces, and one of them at one point says, like, "Well,
• 49:51
  yeah." They were like, "I ate some bad Mexican or something," and you, like,
• 49:54
  you realize it, like you think it's food at the time that they're ta- but
• 49:57
  they're probably talking about a person.
• 49:58
  Yeah.
• 49:59
  They, they were talking about a person.
• 50:00
  Yeah.
• 50:00
  Definitely.
• 50:01
  And so, like, little things that they'll say.
• 50:03
  Oh, my gosh.
• 50:04
  They're like, um- Or she, yeah, she says that, you know, "I
• 50:05
  just, I worry about her. She was the runt of the litter." Yeah.
• 50:08
  Yeah.
• 50:08
  Yeah.
• 50:09
  Yeah.
• 50:09
  Mm-hmm.
• 50:11
  Oh, man.
• 50:12
  So then, yeah, like, come to find out they're werewolves.
• 50:15
  Yeah.
• 50:16
  There was a funny scene… Oh, and then, like, they say at one point,
• 50:22
  like, "Oh, what big eyes you have- Yeah … to her 'cause, and she's,
• 50:26
  like, Little Red Riding Hood.
• 50:28
  Yeah.
• 50:28
  It was a clever movie.
• 50:29
  I mean, it was just so unhinged and I I had no, I thought concept
• 50:35
  as to, like, just where we were, like, what was going on.
• 50:39
  But it was very clever.
• 50:41
  I real- I really did enjoy it.
• 50:43
  I felt bad for the little kids- Like, on the bus and- Oh, the, the Halloween
• 50:49
  bus massacre … oh, the bus part.
• 50:50
  Yes, yes, yes.
• 50:50
  Yeah, that was real- that was really sad to watch.
• 50:53
  Like, I said, as a parent, like, this is hard to watch.
• 50:56
  And then I kinda like how they're, like, talking about how, like, they
• 51:00
  never knew what happened to the driver.
• 51:02
  But, like, you see that clip of him, like, I guess crawling out of the water.
• 51:05
  Yeah.
• 51:05
  And then, so there's that, and then, like, they go down and you think that
• 51:10
  they've accidentally killed Rhonda.
• 51:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 51:13
  'Cause she, like, falls back and, like, hits her head, but then the, the kids
• 51:17
  are actually there- from the bus, and- 'Cause they knocked down all the pumpkins.
• 51:21
  Yeah.
• 51:23
  And I was … Like, I just, like, thought it was interesting because the
• 51:25
  one dude was, like, kind of hitting on Rhonda, or, like, you see, like- And he
• 51:29
  was kind of nice to her at that point.
• 51:31
  Yeah.
• 51:32
  Yeah.
• 51:33
  But- It's too late at that point.
• 51:34
  You lured her out there.
• 51:35
  Yeah.
• 51:36
  You intentionally brought this girl who you know is different.
• 51:39
  Yeah.
• 51:39
  And just because now you feel bad- … you don't get to do that.
• 51:44
  Like- No.
• 51:44
  Yeah, so- … that was one of the things that you, if you watch, you
• 51:47
  notice that he's intentionally trying to lure her out there at first.
• 51:55
  Yeah, he was flirting with her- Yeah
• 51:57
  at the house … flirting with her, and he has … At, at that point he has no
• 52:00
  intentions of, … How do I put this?
• 52:03
  Like, he's, he's not really … he's acting like he's flirting with
• 52:05
  her, but, trying, just trying to get her to come out there.
• 52:09
  Yeah.
• 52:09
  And then, you know, of course everything goes down, and then he
• 52:13
  feels bad about it, and, you know, then he's starting to, be nice to her.
• 52:18
  And that was one of the things that did kinda … Like, every time I watched it,
• 52:21
  it would always just kinda sit, just feel weird to me that, you know, he's, he was
• 52:26
  like, "Hey, I'm sorry, this was wrong. We shouldn't have done that." And then she
• 52:30
  just straight up ice water in her veins.
• 52:34
  Yeah.
• 52:34
  Casually waved him- Just casually waves at him
• 52:36
  and then left.
• 52:37
  Now, I don't f- I don't think this is … I'm not entirely convinced this is
• 52:41
  relevant, but I did pick up on it this, this time around when I was watching it.
• 52:45
  Whenever, uh, I think his name's Chip, the, the other little- The pirate kid?
• 52:49
  … the pirate kid, and he's talking to her.
• 52:52
  They're walking, they're on their way, and then, of course, this is our, the
• 52:55
  moment where she demonstrates that she is super knowledgeable about Halloween.
• 52:59
  Definitely.
• 53:00
  She's a rule follower.
• 53:01
  Yeah.
• 53:02
  And so one of the things that she mentions is, uh, talking about
• 53:06
  Samhain, is human sacrifice.
• 53:10
  And so- What did she say?
• 53:11
  Oh.
• 53:11
  I missed that.
• 53:12
  I kinda wonder if that was, like, her version of, "I'm gonna sacrifice
• 53:17
  these humans." I don- I don't know.
• 53:18
  Oh, yeah.
• 53:19
  Maybe.
• 53:20
  So I don
• 53:21
  'Cause she just straight up was like, "Yep, nope, I'm outta here." Yeah.
• 53:25
  Well, but I mean-
• 53:28
  They were so terrible to her.
• 53:30
  They were.
• 53:30
  They were.
• 53:30
  They were.
• 53:31
  And you can only imagine the what does she deal with on a daily
• 53:36
  basis 'cause she's different.
• 53:37
  Like, "Oh, she's not…" Then like they, I'm not gonna say the R-word.
• 53:42
  I don't like it.
• 53:43
  Like, they're not, she's not that.
• 53:44
  She's a, she's an idiot savant.
• 53:47
  She, uh, which I'm, yeah, I'll tell you right now.
• 53:49
  But like- I am, I am 100% Team Rhonda.
• 53:51
  For sure.
• 53:52
  Yeah.
• 53:52
  But like, I wrote down that like I feel nothing when she pushes
• 53:56
  the button and starts going up.
• 53:58
  Like, I don't, even though that one kid kinda started feeling bad about
• 54:01
  it, like, y'all, this was premeditated.
• 54:04
  Yeah.
• 54:05
  You knew this girl was gonna come out.
• 54:07
  You flirted with her, messed with her emotions- Mm-hmm … the whole time,
• 54:13
  acted nice, when you knew that y'all were gonna come out here and terrorize her-
• 54:18
  Yeah … out in the middle of nowhere.
• 54:20
  And now, because you and that stank little Macy girl- Oh, now she was terrible.
• 54:26
  She was.
• 54:26
  She was terrible.
• 54:27
  And you had the w- even the kid that, the pirate kid
• 54:33
  I couldn't tell, where he was.
• 54:36
  I think e- eventually…
• 54:37
  But, like, did you feel bad or you feel bad 'cause you got caught?
• 54:39
  Yeah.
• 54:40
  Yeah.
• 54:40
  Like, you were mean-spirited enough to put this whole ruse together,
• 54:46
  to put costumes and whatnot down there- Yeah … for no good reason.
• 54:51
  You get nothing out of this but to be mean and terrorize a
• 54:53
  person, and you got what you got.
• 54:56
  Yeah.
• 54:56
  And I'm just like, "It is what it is." I was like, "Yes, Rhonda,"
• 54:59
  when she deadpan face look at them just, "Bye-bye." Bye bye.
• 55:04
  Yeah, then she, when she gets to the top, I love the, the interaction between
• 55:07
  her and Sam- Yeah … where she just, they just k- it's almost like a nod of
• 55:10
  approval and then- Yeah … on their way.
• 55:12
  Yeah 'Cause she, she respects the rules and- Respects the rules … she knew-
• 55:15
  That's all he's really worried about.
• 55:17
  Yeah.
• 55:18
  Yeah, I said- So- … she knows the rules … so did you c- pick
• 55:21
  up on the driver at that point?
• 55:24
  Oh, yeah.
• 55:24
  When did you figure out about the driver?
• 55:28
  I didn't pick it up until the end- Okay … until they tell you what-
• 55:31
  When he- I didn't, I didn't either the first- When he was burning the pictures.
• 55:32
  Yeah.
• 55:32
  Yeah.
• 55:33
  I didn't the first time- Yeah … either, but when you
• 55:34
  watch it through again, you'll see that he's got cuts under his eye.
• 55:38
  Oh.
• 55:38
  And Mr. Creeg has scars under his eye.
• 55:41
  And then he's also wheezing when he comes out of the water.
• 55:43
  And the ring.
• 55:44
  Oh, the ring.
• 55:45
  I, like, listening to this guy breathe- … I was like, he is as close to death as it
• 55:52
  gets already- from like COPD or something.
• 55:54
  I was like, this man needs some oxygen The breathing drove- Yeah … drove me crazy.
• 56:00
  And I alway- like, that's my least favorite sequence of the whole movie,
• 56:04
  and, and Achilles slice- I said that.
• 56:07
  Uh-huh … y'all, I just, I c- something about that when it, in, in
• 56:10
  movies, it just gets me every time.
• 56:12
  Oh, yeah.
• 56:13
  Every time.
• 56:14
  G- I had always heard that would happen to, like, women, like,
• 56:17
  trying to get in their cars.
• 56:18
  Someone would be, like, under their car- Oh … and they would just slice it.
• 56:20
  Ooh, I had never heard that, but now I'll worry about it.
• 56:23
  Sorry.
• 56:23
  It's okay.
• 56:26
  Sorry that I did that, yeah.
• 56:28
  Let's see, what I thought.
• 56:29
  Oh, I really liked… Okay, so, he's, like, at his house and they, like, show
• 56:34
  the TV, and they showed, like, a quick scene from Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island.
• 56:41
  And I was like- I thought of that Leonardo DiCaprio meme where
• 56:43
  he's, like, pointing at the TV.
• 56:45
  So that, I got really excited about that.
• 56:49
  Y'all should watch, especially Spooky Island I f- I mean, like,
• 56:54
  Scooby-Doo is something that should be up my alley, honestly.
• 56:58
  I just never- I, I enjoyed it when I was a kid.
• 56:59
  Yeah … it just was never, I never encountered it, ever.
• 57:03
  And then they had the live action movie when I was young-ish.
• 57:07
  I mean, and I loved Sarah Michelle Gellar.
• 57:09
  I loved Freddie Prinze Jr., like, I should have watched it, but I just never did.
• 57:14
  It just didn't happen.
• 57:16
  Yeah, 'cause it definitely wa- every single episode was, you
• 57:18
  know, dealt with some sort of- Yeah … paranormal- Yeah … type thing.
• 57:22
  I mean, I'm pretty sure it always ended up, there was always an explanation
• 57:27
  or there was always someone behind it.
• 57:29
  Yeah.
• 57:30
  Yeah.
• 57:30
  Uh, but it was still, there was some creepy stuff in there.
• 57:32
  Oh, yeah.
• 57:33
  Okay, so old Craig, and then he his dog is, like, eating the finger
• 57:41
  Like the principal had been over the fence Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 57:44
  And then it kinda creeped me out how, like, all of the lit up pumpkins,
• 57:47
  like, uh, on his front porch.
• 57:49
  Yeah.
• 57:50
  I wa- like I d- for that I was like Sam is so dramatic.
• 57:54
  He is.
• 57:54
  It's like it's like Home Alone but in reverse.
• 57:58
  Oh.
• 57:59
  Because he goes into his house, and then like, you know, he does
• 58:02
  all the stuff out on the front, and then upstairs he had the pumpkin
• 58:06
  with the writing all over the walls.
• 58:08
  Like just so mu- just the theatrics.
• 58:10
  And then he tries to walk down the stairs, there's the candy everywhere
• 58:12
  so he goes, like, slipping down, like, the marbles and whatever.
• 58:14
  Well, candy and glass.
• 58:15
  Yeah.
• 58:16
  Yeah.
• 58:16
  And so I'm just like, "This Kevin McCallister, is that you?" Well,
• 58:20
  so all right, so here's another thing that I kinda picked up on
• 58:23
  and maybe this is the reasoning.
• 58:26
  Uh, so the clown, kids that are dressed up like clowns- Mm-hmm.
• 58:29
  Yeah … um, they show up and they, of course, they're terrified
• 58:33
  to knock on this guy's door.
• 58:34
  I don't even know why they're doing it in the first place.
• 58:37
  Uh, yeah.
• 58:37
  And, you know, he kinda ekes out, you know, "Trick or treat." And then
• 58:41
  of course he opens the door, the dog comes running out, they think it's a
• 58:44
  monster- Yeah … and then he ends up coming out there and taking their candy.
• 58:48
  So the key there is that they said, "Trick or treat."
• 58:52
  They did not get a, a treat.
• 58:54
  So Sam is delivering the tricks.
• 58:56
  Oh.
• 58:57
  Because immediately one of the first things you see after that
• 58:59
  point, so the first thing Sam does is throws an egg at his house.
• 59:04
  And then he- Mm … comes in through the doggy door, and then of course
• 59:07
  some of the writing that's on that, that wall is, "Trick or treat,
• 59:11
  give me something good to eat."
• 59:12
  Yeah.
• 59:13
  And so the whole sequence there is he's, he's giving them, he's giving them tricks
• 59:18
  because he did not deliver- And so- He was, he was asked, "Trick or treat." Yeah
• 59:22
  And he did not give a treat, so that's why he leaves him alone when he stabs him.
• 59:25
  When he gets the candy.
• 59:26
  Yep.
• 59:27
  Yeah.
• 59:27
  That's, it's so weird 'cause then he just is like, "All right, guess we're good.
• 59:31
  I got this chocolate bar."
• 59:34
  Yeah.
• 59:34
  Which is random.
• 59:35
  But after that, though, after that point, he bandages himself up and now
• 59:39
  all of a sudden he's willing to respect the holiday and he's handing out candy.
• 59:42
  Yeah, but then he gets got anyway.
• 59:44
  Yeah.
• 59:44
  That's from his past actions.
• 59:45
  Okay, but what I didn't understand was that the jack-o'-lanterns
• 59:48
  were all still on the porch and I thought the jack-o'-lanterns
• 59:50
  were supposed to protect you.
• 59:53
  Well, they protect you from Sam Yeah.
• 59:56
  No, because the, at, at the quarry when all the kids were there, and it
• 1:00:02
  was all the foggy, you know, and the kids are like, the, the pirate boy
• 1:00:06
  was like, "Oh, there's still one down here that's lit." And Macy's like,
• 1:00:10
  "Ugh, I told you." You know, and she kicks it into the water, and that's
• 1:00:13
  when all heck starts breaking loose.
• 1:00:16
  When she gets the… sh- when she… That's when they come up, is when she
• 1:00:21
  extinguishes that last pumpkin that they took down there- … by the water.
• 1:00:25
  That's true.
• 1:00:26
  That's true.
• 1:00:28
  So I don't understand why they could come up to his door-
• 1:00:31
  May- … with all those pumpkins.
• 1:00:33
  Well, maybe it's 'cause he didn't put them out.
• 1:00:34
  Maybe.
• 1:00:35
  Oh, because Sam put the pumpkins under.
• 1:00:37
  Sam put them there.
• 1:00:38
  Maybe.
• 1:00:39
  Well, and I wonder if it's just kind of like one of those things where
• 1:00:41
  it's like, you know, the veil is like the thinnest or whatever between-
• 1:00:44
  Mm-hmm … the dead and the living, and so they're coming to get their revenge.
• 1:00:48
  And it was the 30 years.
• 1:00:52
  But like, I don't know, maybe they had never been disturbed before.
• 1:00:58
  Maybe.
• 1:00:59
  I don't know.
• 1:00:59
  Like that- Well, it's 'cause they they had said earlier that no
• 1:01:01
  one ever found the school bus.
• 1:01:03
  Yeah.
• 1:01:03
  Which to me, I'm like, "Did you even look?" But yeah- Because if it- But
• 1:01:06
  it's right there … it's right there.
• 1:01:06
  'Cause it's, it's just there It wasn't under water or anything.
• 1:01:09
  No, and I don't know 'cause he, why did he keep those photos for 30 years?
• 1:01:14
  Well, it probably, it probably haunted him.
• 1:01:16
  I mean- Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  Probably, but why do you wanna keep evidence of that?
• 1:01:18
  And also, what sick freak parents are like, "We know what's about
• 1:01:22
  to go down today. Everybody round up, we're gonna take a picture."
• 1:01:24
  I know, that really- Seriously?
• 1:01:26
  … that scene made me sad, and like that poor kid wa- just wanted to go home.
• 1:01:29
  I know.
• 1:01:29
  It's terrible.
• 1:01:30
  Like, he just wanted to go home.
• 1:01:31
  It, 'cause like, I just like… And of course you know, these kids I guess
• 1:01:34
  just had awful parents, but I just like imagined Jay being like, "I wanna go to
• 1:01:37
  home to my mama, like, where I'm safe."
• 1:01:39
  Yeah, and it's their, it's their parents that are the reason that they are there.
• 1:01:43
  It really made me sad.
• 1:01:44
  And they tried to make, their parents were tired.
• 1:01:46
  Well, there are a lot of people who have special needs kids- Yeah … that
• 1:01:51
  they don't do stuff like that.
• 1:01:53
  Right.
• 1:01:53
  Like, that's not- And they were chained into their seats.
• 1:01:56
  Yes.
• 1:01:57
  Chained into their seats.
• 1:01:58
  And I don't know if that was just like a normal everyday thing of like that's
• 1:02:04
  how their bus worked- Yeah … or if that was particularly that day.
• 1:02:08
  Ugh.
• 1:02:09
  But it's just like, it's so messed up.
• 1:02:11
  It's so, so, so dark.
• 1:02:13
  Yeah.
• 1:02:14
  That's- And they just tell it like it's a little, like, legend.
• 1:02:18
  That's why I think- Yeah, like golly, that is messed up … yeah, that's
• 1:02:21
  why I think he, he ultimately, fi- meets, meets his, uh, demise because
• 1:02:28
  I think it catches up with him.
• 1:02:31
  Not necessarily that he's, you know, all, all of a sudden he's like, "Okay,
• 1:02:33
  yeah, I'm, I'm following tradition now. I'm good." And of course Sam
• 1:02:38
  walks away, but I think ultimately through the actions of these kids that
• 1:02:43
  disturbed those spirits, that brought them back and then now they were- Yeah
• 1:02:48
  gonna go get him.
• 1:02:49
  But what I also don't understand so the thing with the kids must
• 1:02:54
  have been one of the first things that happened that night, right?
• 1:02:57
  Because he leaves Krieg's house, he's walk- he's standing on the outside.
• 1:03:02
  He turns around, and he's actually living across the street from the robot- couple.
• 1:03:08
  And that's when they walk up, and Rhonda's just, chilling.
• 1:03:11
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:11
  And then the, the girls hadn't been out there yet.
• 1:03:14
  No, the, the girls have been out to the party.
• 1:03:16
  At that point.
• 1:03:17
  Yeah, they're like on their way back.
• 1:03:17
  So that was first.
• 1:03:19
  But then like, okay so the kids were collecting jack-o'-lanterns
• 1:03:23
  for a long time, right?
• 1:03:25
  Because they saw, they went to the, that one teacher's house.
• 1:03:28
  And they're having the crazy, like, rager party.
• 1:03:31
  And, But at some point, the hot dog guy ran into a werewolf woman somewhere.
• 1:03:39
  Yeah, because the- Because he was at the… Like, when they come in- The
• 1:03:40
  guy got got, yeah I think that night.
• 1:03:42
  Yeah, you remember , they're like, "Is coach so-and-so in a hot dog costume?"
• 1:03:47
  I don't like, the, it was really crass the way that they worded it, but like- It,
• 1:03:52
  there was a party with, like, a teacher.
• 1:03:53
  They answered the door … and she was like, "You guys want some,
• 1:03:55
  you guys want something to drink? It'll be our secret," or whatever.
• 1:03:57
  Oh.
• 1:03:57
  And they pan in the back, and there's a guy in a hot dog costume
• 1:04:00
  and somebody in some other costume, and they were just really c- close.
• 1:04:04
  And but then, like, at the werewolf party, they're, like, zooming in or
• 1:04:09
  out inward, and people, they're, like, ripping people to shreds or whatever, and
• 1:04:13
  the hot dog is getting, like, rolled in.
• 1:04:17
  Yeah, so the hot dog guy got got.
• 1:04:18
  In the corner of the screen.
• 1:04:20
  So screamy.
• 1:04:20
  Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Yikes.
• 1:04:21
  I really enjoyed that, uh, Mr.
• 1:04:25
  Wilkins, like, that's how he died, though.
• 1:04:26
  I mean, he was terrible.
• 1:04:27
  Oh, yeah, that was good.
• 1:04:28
  But I thought it was… 'Cause he's, like, telling his son that he had a
• 1:04:30
  date, like, a hot date or something.
• 1:04:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:04:32
  So was the date the first girl that he just, like, left- … on the bench?
• 1:04:38
  I think maybe he got her earlier on.
• 1:04:42
  I don't, I'm, I don't know.
• 1:04:43
  It's hard to say, 'cause that was super early, too.
• 1:04:45
  That girl, which is also, like, a mad fear of mine that I will be killed
• 1:04:50
  in plain sight- Oh … at some point.
• 1:04:52
  Yeah.
• 1:04:52
  And it'll just be such chaos, or people will think it's a gag or a bit.
• 1:04:56
  Or, like, at a haunted house or something, and people are like,
• 1:04:58
  "Oh, yeah, that's part of the…
• 1:05:00
  Wow, what, what effects." Yeah.
• 1:05:02
  And then it'll be like, "No, I just got offed." I actually-
• 1:05:05
  "They're killing you." Yeah.
• 1:05:06
  Please care.
• 1:05:07
  Yeah.
• 1:05:08
  Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Yeah, I tried to, I meant to put down a timeline to try and figure
• 1:05:12
  out when everything took place.
• 1:05:14
  Let's see.
• 1:05:15
  But, like- Really quickly … so I can tell you one thing when
• 1:05:19
  they're at the rock quarry.
• 1:05:20
  When it's Rhonda and Chip are just sitting up there by themselves,
• 1:05:25
  you hear werewolves howling.
• 1:05:27
  Oh.
• 1:05:27
  Oh.
• 1:05:27
  And she goes, "Werewolves." You know?
• 1:05:30
  And so I think that's- Yeah … that point whenever the werewolves are turning.
• 1:05:35
  Okay.
• 1:05:36
  And so that's that point in the timeline.
• 1:05:39
  So that's why whenever we get to Mr.
• 1:05:41
  Craig's house and he comes f- and Sam comes walking out, the girls
• 1:05:45
  are now returning from that party.
• 1:05:46
  Okay.
• 1:05:47
  This is also now after the, the rock quarry- Yeah … incident, 'cause
• 1:05:51
  Rhonda's now returned from that.
• 1:05:52
  And so… Well, and, like, before, like, when Mr. Wilkins is, like,
• 1:05:57
  coming inside from, like, digging that hole and covering it back up, Mr.
• 1:06:03
  Craig is, like, shouting for him to help him.
• 1:06:06
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:06
  Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  So all that in his house is happening at that time.
• 1:06:09
  Yep.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  You'd have to like watch it multiple times and piece together
• 1:06:14
  little bitty- Yeah … things.
• 1:06:15
  Somebody probably has.
• 1:06:16
  This is like a cult- Oh, yeah … favorite It's, it's a cult favorite.
• 1:06:20
  So I'm sure someone has put together a timeline somewhere, but- Yeah.
• 1:06:24
  I mean, it's on, it's on Google.
• 1:06:26
  So this says like you start with the flashback with like the school,
• 1:06:29
  like the school bus massacre.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah.
• 1:06:31
  Early evening is Emma and her husband Henry, and like Emma blows
• 1:06:35
  out the jack-o'-lantern before midnight, and then is murdered.
• 1:06:39
  And then it's the school bus massacre prank.
• 1:06:42
  And then it's and then it's Principal Wilkins like killing that kid,
• 1:06:47
  burying him in Mr. Craig's battle-
• 1:06:53
  But I feel like because then it goes to the werewolf bonfire, which you said
• 1:06:58
  that you would've been able to hear during the school bus massacre prank.
• 1:07:02
  Or the- So I'm assuming- … the mirror howling
• 1:07:04
  yeah, I assume that's what that was So maybe all three of those
• 1:07:06
  are happening at the same time.
• 1:07:07
  Maybe so.
• 1:07:07
  Yeah.
• 1:07:07
  I think a lot of it is gonna be simultaneous.
• 1:07:10
  Yeah.
• 1:07:11
  And then the late night like a bandaged Mr. Craig gives candy out on his
• 1:07:16
  porch and sees Rhonda pass by, and then 'cause then it shows Sam- Yeah
• 1:07:24
  But then when it shows Sam, it's so confusing, this movie.
• 1:07:27
  So really the first thing you see is actually probably
• 1:07:30
  the last thing that happens.
• 1:07:32
  But you said that, though.
• 1:07:33
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:07:33
  Like, you see the last thing- Yeah, it's- … happening at the s- start of the movie.
• 1:07:37
  Yeah, the start of the movie is basically the end of it.
• 1:07:39
  Okay.
• 1:07:40
  It's… Yeah.
• 1:07:42
  Okay.
• 1:07:43
  Clear as mud.
• 1:07:44
  Okay.
• 1:07:44
  Yeah.
• 1:07:45
  It's
• 1:07:46
  I could not have ever come up with a story like that.
• 1:07:48
  No.
• 1:07:49
  And did you say it's based on a, an actual graphic novel, or they
• 1:07:52
  created- So- … one afterward?
• 1:07:53
  They created one after.
• 1:07:54
  Okay.
• 1:07:55
  Um, and he basically came up with this idea.
• 1:07:59
  First he created the character Sam, 'cause he wanted … He … Again, this is,
• 1:08:04
  this is how much he loved Halloween, is that he looked at all the holidays and he
• 1:08:08
  goes like Christmas has Santa Claus you know, Easter has the Easter Bunny- Mm-hmm
• 1:08:11
  and," talking about all these.
• 1:08:13
  And he's like, "Valentine's Day has the, the chubby little Cupid- Yeah … or, or
• 1:08:17
  whatever." And he was like, "But Halloween doesn't have a mascot." And so that's what
• 1:08:22
  one of the things he was, he wanted to do, was create this character that was kind of
• 1:08:27
  like the m- like the mascot of Halloween.
• 1:08:29
  Okay.
• 1:08:29
  And so that's how Sam was kind of born.
• 1:08:31
  And so he, he then, when he got an opportunity to, to write it, he ta-
• 1:08:36
  he took four of his short stories and, like, combined them all together to make
• 1:08:42
  this- Yeah, that's cool … this film.
• 1:08:44
  And it's, that's why it's like an anthology of all of
• 1:08:46
  his, of those short stories.
• 1:08:49
  Also interesting to note, this month as this episode releases I think it's
• 1:08:54
  October 13th, or will have been Oct- October 13th, they're releasing a new
• 1:08:59
  graphic novel- Oh … for Trick or Treat called Trick or Treat: Witching Hours.
• 1:09:04
  Next year will be the 20th anniversary.
• 1:09:05
  I have fingers crossed that we'll have some sort of news on
• 1:09:08
  a sequel, 'cause I would love to have more of this or another one.
• 1:09:12
  Kind of- Yeah … but I also, like … You know how some things are
• 1:09:17
  so good- Mm-hmm … in the one thing?
• 1:09:20
  Yeah.
• 1:09:20
  And then when people try to add to it or explain it.
• 1:09:25
  'Cause I, I sat here and I was like, "I wanna know more about
• 1:09:27
  Sam." Like, where does he come from?
• 1:09:28
  Yeah.
• 1:09:28
  What is his deal?
• 1:09:29
  'Cause it, like … I didn't notice … Maybe I have noticed before, but it,
• 1:09:34
  like, registered again to me that his insi- when he gets cut off, like,
• 1:09:38
  his insides are pumpkin guts- Mm-hmm
• 1:09:39
  and stuff like that.
• 1:09:40
  And I was like, "What?" Like, "What are you?
• 1:09:41
  Where did you come from?" But then I'm like, "Do I wanna know?" 'Cause sometimes
• 1:09:46
  the explanation is just not rewarding.
• 1:09:49
  Yeah.
• 1:09:50
  Um- Goes way back So there is an origin story?
• 1:09:54
  Yeah, like Sam- Well, there's, there's- … Sandlin or something.
• 1:09:58
  Yeah, I think it goes back to, to Samhain.
• 1:10:00
  Samhain.
• 1:10:01
  But S- But- … that character?
• 1:10:03
  So in the, in the, in the graphic novel- Yeah … I've, which I
• 1:10:06
  have not read, so I don't know.
• 1:10:07
  I've just, you know, in looking at some, some stuff that people have
• 1:10:11
  put together on, kind of the history.
• 1:10:15
  I don't know about the origin, but some of the history of Sam.
• 1:10:18
  Yeah.
• 1:10:19
  And so there have been s- I mean, I'm assuming that's why his name
• 1:10:21
  is Sam 'cause it's spelled- Yes
• 1:10:24
  Sa- like Samhain is spelled S-A- S-A-M, yeah … M-H-A-I-N.
• 1:10:27
  Yeah.
• 1:10:27
  And so that's where S- Sam comes from.
• 1:10:29
  Okay.
• 1:10:30
  Is from the spelling of, of Samhain.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah.
• 1:10:33
  But yeah I mean, there's definitely some history there.
• 1:10:38
  I don't really know what it is, and if you'll notice in the movie
• 1:10:42
  for that scene where it goes back to 30 years with the bus- Mm-hmm
• 1:10:47
  massacre, there's one scene where they drive.
• 1:10:49
  They're driving through an area and you see Sam.
• 1:10:52
  Yes, on the side of the road.
• 1:10:53
  On the side of the road.
• 1:10:54
  Oh, no.
• 1:10:55
  So he's, he's been around for a long, long time.
• 1:10:58
  And like I said, I don't really know.
• 1:11:00
  I need to do some research and see how far back he goes, but- Yeah
• 1:11:04
  I don't know.
• 1:11:05
  I mean, I just feel like there, there's more opportunity.
• 1:11:06
  Like, I just love a good anthology.
• 1:11:08
  I do, too.
• 1:11:08
  Yeah.
• 1:11:08
  And I really like movies where stuff overlaps.
• 1:11:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:11:14
  And it's revealed over time that, like, things that seem disconnected are
• 1:11:17
  actually really, it's all integrated.
• 1:11:21
  I like that because it's hard to do.
• 1:11:26
  Yeah.
• 1:11:26
  It's not just, like, a linear story, and I think that's really creative,
• 1:11:30
  and I like to discover those things.
• 1:11:32
  So yeah, I mean, I would like for them to be able to do another one.
• 1:11:36
  I just fear, you know- No, and I- … what it is … I get it.
• 1:11:38
  I mean- Yeah … and I'm, I'm such a huge fan of the character
• 1:11:41
  that, like, I don't wanna see a, a bad version of it, but- Yeah.
• 1:11:44
  I do love the fact that, as we said, we watch this movie every year.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah.
• 1:11:49
  And every year, it seems like I see or spot something in this movie
• 1:11:54
  that I've never noticed before.
• 1:11:55
  Yeah.
• 1:11:56
  Yeah.
• 1:11:56
  Just some little detail or some, some character in the background I notice.
• 1:12:00
  I noticed, uh, so when we, we talked about earlier with, uh, Charlie smacked,
• 1:12:05
  smashing the pumpkins along the fence row.
• 1:12:08
  Across the street you see Schrader pushing his cart.
• 1:12:11
  Yeah.
• 1:12:12
  And so, and then of course later he's talking to the other kids,
• 1:12:15
  and he's like, "Yeah, some kid was smashing all the pumpkins." Yeah.
• 1:12:18
  And so- So that's why he couldn't find- Yeah … as many as he should have.
• 1:12:22
  But it's they kinda make it out to, like-
• 1:12:26
  They couldn't find enough, and then the, and then Macy is like, "Oh, I know
• 1:12:31
  where to go." And they go to Rhonda's house, and she has a billion of them.
• 1:12:36
  It makes it kinda seem like, to even the viewer, that they only went to her
• 1:12:42
  house because they needed more pumpkins.
• 1:12:48
  And then she was like, "Yeah, Schrader, use your charm to a- to
• 1:12:54
  get the pumpkins that they needed."
• 1:12:57
  And then she ended up going with them.
• 1:12:58
  So- And then that girl was annoyed, but it clearly was from the jump they
• 1:13:04
  intended to do that to her because they had all that stuff down at the quarry.
• 1:13:08
  Yeah, so every single one of these stories is, represents a costume, if
• 1:13:16
  you will, of the people that start out.
• 1:13:20
  So in every single one of them, they're seen as one thing, and then by the time
• 1:13:23
  the story is done, they're another.
• 1:13:26
  So like, the kids, you think they're just rounding up these pumpkins
• 1:13:30
  for whatever reason, just innocent.
• 1:13:33
  Turns out they're not so innocent.
• 1:13:34
  You have Mr. Wilkins.
• 1:13:37
  Turns out he's this mask-wearing serial killer toward the end of it, of course.
• 1:13:42
  You know, he's, he's a principal handing out candy when you first
• 1:13:45
  see him, but then slowly we see, okay, no, that's not who that is.
• 1:13:50
  Mr. Krieg, we find out that he's the bus driver from that horrible
• 1:13:55
  incident that happened in the past.
• 1:13:58
  And then of course the girls, we find out they're not just girls looking for a date,
• 1:14:01
  they're werewolves looking for victims
• 1:14:06
  Right, but like their costume didn't really… That's, but like the, the
• 1:14:12
  dialogue, it, the what they're talking like makes it seem like they're just
• 1:14:20
  going there to get pumpkins, but that's, that becomes… I don't know
• 1:14:24
  why they, it made it seem like that.
• 1:14:27
  Because they knew they were gonna go get her, so why didn't
• 1:14:32
  they just start with her?
• 1:14:33
  Why did they have to collect pumpkins from somewhere else?
• 1:14:35
  They know she had an abundance of pumpkins.
• 1:14:37
  She would've had plenty of pumpkins.
• 1:14:38
  They could've just said, "Hey Rhonda, come hang out with us at the quarry and bring
• 1:14:42
  eight pumpkins." I'll have to go back and watch- I- … 'cause I could've swore I
• 1:14:46
  remember them saying, "If we'd known she had this, we would've just started here."
• 1:14:51
  I think you're right.
• 1:14:53
  Because they made it sound like they just went to her house to get the pumpkins
• 1:15:00
  So if they'd known she had them all in one spot, we would've just
• 1:15:03
  started here, but then her coming to the quarry didn't… They didn't
• 1:15:07
  act like they went there for her.
• 1:15:10
  They acted like they went there only for the pumpkins.
• 1:15:13
  But they definitely went there to get her because they were
• 1:15:16
  gonna play that prank on her.
• 1:15:18
  Maybe it was like a two for one.
• 1:15:20
  I mean, they were gonna get somebody down there
• 1:15:25
  Yeah, I'd, I'd have- I don't know … I'd have to go back and watch.
• 1:15:27
  'Cause I mean, they, the, the plan was to take her down there.
• 1:15:30
  So- And so I, I would have to go back and watch, 'cause the only thing I
• 1:15:32
  remember is them saying, "If we'd known that she had this, we could've just
• 1:15:38
  started here." C- but Macy knew that apparently the whole time, because
• 1:15:42
  when they couldn't get enough pumpkins, 'cause somebody had smashed them all,
• 1:15:45
  she was like, "Oh, I know where to go."
• 1:15:47
  And then they go to Rhonda's house, where they were gonna go the whole time.
• 1:15:51
  Maybe just she knew.
• 1:15:52
  So why did you have to ask Mr. Wilkins for his pumpkin?
• 1:15:56
  Why'd you have to ask your creepy teacher for her pumpkin?
• 1:15:59
  You just sent the, your friends on a wild goose chase when you
• 1:16:02
  could've just gone to Rhonda's house.
• 1:16:04
  Because she's crazy.
• 1:16:05
  She's a master manipulator.
• 1:16:06
  Can't stand that kid.
• 1:16:07
  I'm so glad she got- 'Cause she was the ring leader … killed.
• 1:16:09
  She's the worst.
• 1:16:10
  Yeah, she was terrible.
• 1:16:11
  Oh, I can't stand her.
• 1:16:11
  And she's, like, dressed as, like, an angel.
• 1:16:13
  Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Ugh, terrible.
• 1:16:19
  All right, so dumb decisions.
• 1:16:21
  I would say taking down dec- decorations on the night of Halloween.
• 1:16:27
  Yeah.
• 1:16:27
  That's definitely something.
• 1:16:28
  I mean, it, kinda like what was saying earlier, I don't know why you would
• 1:16:31
  even… You know, it's usually late.
• 1:16:34
  Yeah.
• 1:16:34
  Like, go to bed.
• 1:16:36
  Do it in the morning, sunshine.
• 1:16:38
  You got daylight.
• 1:16:39
  You can see what you're doing.
• 1:16:42
  But then- Put your stuff up … you would have more time to do more
• 1:16:44
  productive things in the morning.
• 1:16:46
  I guess.
• 1:16:46
  I mean, like, even though, like she said, his mom was coming
• 1:16:50
  or something the next day.
• 1:16:51
  Yeah.
• 1:16:52
  I'm like, "I don't care." If I'm coming home from a party, whether
• 1:16:57
  I'm drunk or not, I'm gonna be tired.
• 1:16:59
  And my parents, your parents, they're just gonna have to accept this is who I am.
• 1:17:04
  Take it or leave it.
• 1:17:05
  Yeah, for real.
• 1:17:06
  There will be Halloween decorations up.
• 1:17:08
  Yeah.
• 1:17:09
  And then also put that, uh, when the kids are down in the quarry- … and
• 1:17:15
  they're like, "Okay. Well, party's over 'cause Rhonda's upset," and
• 1:17:20
  so they go to pick, pick up their things over by where the bus is.
• 1:17:24
  Again, just come back later.
• 1:17:27
  Clearly, no one goes here.
• 1:17:29
  Or just leave it.
• 1:17:30
  Yeah, they would've found this bus.
• 1:17:31
  Just leave it- Yeah … and come back later.
• 1:17:33
  Or don't come back.
• 1:17:34
  Or don't come back.
• 1:17:35
  Yeah, 'cause it… What, what of value, what do they even have over there?
• 1:17:38
  Yeah.
• 1:17:39
  So that would be the other dumb decision they have.
• 1:17:41
  But that was really the only thing that I saw or one- anything
• 1:17:45
  that I really picked up on.
• 1:17:46
  Yeah.
• 1:17:46
  I put, like, disrespecting any Halloween- Mm … tradition or rule.
• 1:17:52
  I mean, being a, just being a bad person, I guess.
• 1:17:56
  It's not… Yeah.
• 1:17:58
  Let's go.
• 1:17:58
  I, I do like that the good people in this movie, they
• 1:18:04
  seemed pretty well safe, I guess.
• 1:18:06
  I mean, like, well, no.
• 1:18:07
  What about the werewolves?
• 1:18:08
  I mean- The werewolf victims, I guess.
• 1:18:11
  So maybe not.
• 1:18:12
  So really only Rhonda.
• 1:18:15
  She is the- I guess, but hers was, that was all the tradition, so I guess it
• 1:18:19
  doesn't matter your, your moral code.
• 1:18:22
  It's just- You just gotta follow the rules.
• 1:18:24
  Yeah.
• 1:18:26
  On that note- … what are the club rules to ensure that
• 1:18:29
  you would survive this movie?
• 1:18:30
  Definitely keep your jack-o'-lanterns lit.
• 1:18:32
  Yeah.
• 1:18:33
  Like, number one, 'cause that was a rule across multiple scenes.
• 1:18:37
  I mean- I said don't trust the little kids.
• 1:18:42
  And any time you hear the sound of a child laughing, just get outta Dodge.
• 1:18:46
  Get there, outta there- Yeah … as fast as possible.
• 1:18:49
  Yep.
• 1:18:49
  Don't go in an alley with a guy, whether you, honestly, whether
• 1:18:53
  you know him or not in this world.
• 1:18:54
  Mm. Yeah.
• 1:18:55
  But like that girl who, like the, the first victim of Wilkins, it's
• 1:18:59
  like, that's not a wise place to be.
• 1:19:03
  But, like, I wonder if he actually did kill her.
• 1:19:06
  Like, I wonder if she died.
• 1:19:07
  I think she was dead.
• 1:19:08
  You think so?
• 1:19:09
  It seemed like… She looked dead.
• 1:19:10
  Yeah, she was dead, 'cause he did the thing where he closed her eyes.
• 1:19:12
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:13
  So I guess that's the sign.
• 1:19:14
  So what, he just, like, bit her neck?
• 1:19:16
  I guess she bled out.
• 1:19:17
  I mean, 'cause he had that the fake teeth.
• 1:19:19
  'Cause he'd bitten her all over on like huge- Oh, that's right … vein
• 1:19:23
  points where he'd bit her wrists and he bit her neck and stuff.
• 1:19:26
  Ugh.
• 1:19:27
  I liked how he got, like for one, just that he, a bad character was,
• 1:19:35
  he got his, what was coming to him.
• 1:19:37
  Yeah.
• 1:19:37
  But also it was like that var- werewolves versus vampires thing- … that's
• 1:19:41
  kinda classic and- Yeah … 'cause a lot of the times the werewolves
• 1:19:44
  don't come out on, on top of that.
• 1:19:46
  Most of the time it's the vampires.
• 1:19:47
  Yeah.
• 1:19:47
  So has that like been like a thing like before Twilight,
• 1:19:51
  vampires versus werewolves?
• 1:19:53
  I think so.
• 1:19:54
  Well, I guess so 'cause this came out- It came out in '07 Yeah, 'cause
• 1:19:56
  didn't Underworld come out before?
• 1:19:58
  That came out before, uh, Twilight.
• 1:20:01
  I don't know.
• 1:20:04
  I don't know.
• 1:20:05
  Anyway.
• 1:20:05
  But yeah, I mean, I, I'm sure that's been a-
• 1:20:09
  longstanding kind of thing.
• 1:20:11
  Yeah.
• 1:20:13
  Uh.
• 1:20:13
  So would y'all survive this movie?
• 1:20:16
  I don't think so, 'cause I don't follow s- superstitions really.
• 1:20:20
  Oh, okay.
• 1:20:20
  Like we now, we rarely even have a pumpkin.
• 1:20:25
  Yeah, I mean, I, I put that I would not survive because if we do have
• 1:20:31
  decorations out and there's … I'm always gonna have something that's lit up.
• 1:20:36
  Yeah.
• 1:20:36
  Whether it is a pumpkin out there that's lit or if it's
• 1:20:40
  some decoration or whatever.
• 1:20:43
  I think for me, part of what I do, uh, when we're done handing
• 1:20:47
  out candy is turn everything off.
• 1:20:49
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:20:50
  Yeah.
• 1:20:50
  So people don't come to the door.
• 1:20:50
  To, yeah, to signal- We're done … yeah, we're not, we're done.
• 1:20:53
  We're not handing- Yeah … anything else out.
• 1:20:55
  And so that's why I put and then I would … They would get me, because I'm not gonna
• 1:20:59
  leave my stuff on, because I have left stuff on before and we weren't at home.
• 1:21:03
  Oh.
• 1:21:04
  And some punk little kid- Oh … kicked over some of our stuff 'cause-
• 1:21:07
  Aw … 'cause, trick or treat and no one answered, and so he-
• 1:21:10
  Oh … kicked over our pumpkins.
• 1:21:12
  That's rude.
• 1:21:13
  Yeah.
• 1:21:13
  That was rude.
• 1:21:14
  So now I just, I, I turn everything off to- We had our very own Charlie.
• 1:21:17
  Yep, we did.
• 1:21:20
  I said I would not survive either because I would be just like cleaning
• 1:21:24
  everything up before the cover of dawn.
• 1:21:28
  Yeah.
• 1:21:29
  Well- Mm … our favorite, smash or pass.
• 1:21:34
  There's a couple of different like- Yeah, a couple ways you could go with this.
• 1:21:37
  Yeah.
• 1:21:38
  I said pass on Wilkins in Always.
• 1:21:42
  Yeah, well I did say he wouldn't be worried about all your little quirks
• 1:21:47
  He's so insufferable.
• 1:21:50
  Is he, like, the worst?
• 1:21:51
  Is he worse than Bear?
• 1:21:54
  No.
• 1:21:55
  Mm.
• 1:21:56
  I don't think so, 'cause Bear was just … Bear was so icky.
• 1:22:01
  Wilkins is too, but Wilkins is just bad.
• 1:22:05
  Yeah.
• 1:22:06
  You know?
• 1:22:06
  Like, there's not much facade there really.
• 1:22:09
  He doesn't hide it.
• 1:22:10
  Yeah.
• 1:22:10
  Yeah.
• 1:22:11
  But Bear was like, he wanted to be the victim, and that I cannot.
• 1:22:15
  Yeah.
• 1:22:15
  So no, I don't think he's worse than Bear.
• 1:22:17
  Okay.
• 1:22:20
  Sam is easy to please, though.
• 1:22:22
  You just give him candy, keep your pumpkins lit- Yeah, I mean- … and
• 1:22:25
  you seem like you're pretty safe … again, it's kind of like
• 1:22:27
  you have the rules for success.
• 1:22:29
  Yeah.
• 1:22:30
  You just gotta follow it.
• 1:22:31
  That's all on you.
• 1:22:32
  That's not his fault.
• 1:22:32
  Very true.
• 1:22:33
  He didn't … Well, I guess he did make the rules, but yeah
• 1:22:38
  I thought Sam wouldn't care, like, what you looked like in the
• 1:22:42
  morning after a Halloween rager.
• 1:22:44
  Very true.
• 1:22:45
  He would just throw that burlap sack over to you, be like, "Just put this on."
• 1:22:49
  And does he only come out once a year?
• 1:22:51
  Does he only come out on Halloween?
• 1:22:53
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:22:53
  Because really, then you're all, like, scot-free, 'cause you really only have to
• 1:22:58
  follow those rules one day of the year.
• 1:22:59
  Yeah.
• 1:23:00
  And that should be easy enough.
• 1:23:01
  Easy.
• 1:23:02
  Should be.
• 1:23:02
  And then the rest of the time you just do whatever you want.
• 1:23:04
  If you know what's at stake.
• 1:23:06
  I would think so.
• 1:23:07
  Yeah.
• 1:23:08
  Maybe this is the most successful one we've had so far.
• 1:23:11
  The, like, most successful Smash?
• 1:23:13
  And- 'Cause usually we end up saying, like, not ultimately.
• 1:23:17
  I think I said ultimately pass.
• 1:23:20
  What'd I say?
• 1:23:21
  He could take me out with a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, a Blow Pop.
• 1:23:25
  I don't remember why I wrote that down.
• 1:23:27
  True.
• 1:23:28
  Yeah, and that little- that little sucker he uses.
• 1:23:31
  The- Oh, yeah … when he's got the candy bar, and he peels it down
• 1:23:35
  slowly, and there's the box cutter.
• 1:23:38
  You're such a drama queen, Sam.
• 1:23:42
  Yes.
• 1:23:42
  Uh- Was it he put that in there?
• 1:23:44
  Yeah, I think so.
• 1:23:45
  Okay.
• 1:23:47
  Let's see.
• 1:23:48
  Mark, I would always pick you over Sam.
• 1:23:50
  Okay.
• 1:23:51
  Good.
• 1:23:51
  Appreciate that.
• 1:23:52
  Good.
• 1:23:53
  All right.
• 1:23:54
  So does it join the club?
• 1:23:56
  Yes.
• 1:23:56
  Yeah.
• 1:23:57
  I mean, obvi- obviously- For sure … for me it's a- it's a- Yes … resounding yes.
• 1:24:01
  Yeah.
• 1:24:02
  I'm glad you- I'm glad you liked it, 'cause when you sent us that text, and
• 1:24:05
  you're only 15 minutes in, I was like, I was ver- like, once that happened,
• 1:24:10
  I- it was kinda like it was- I was hooked, but for the wrong reasons.
• 1:24:14
  Yeah.
• 1:24:15
  Like, what else could happen?
• 1:24:17
  Is this man gonna get caught?
• 1:24:19
  Where are these kids' parents?
• 1:24:21
  Yeah, lot of questions.
• 1:24:23
  Yeah.
• 1:24:24
  Yeah.
• 1:24:24
  I really did enjoy it.
• 1:24:25
  It was unhinged.
• 1:24:26
  It was like, it's, like, the perfect
• 1:24:28
  it's like Halloweentown but rated R version.
• 1:24:33
  Yeah.
• 1:24:34
  It's its own- And kind of- … form of whimsy.
• 1:24:36
  It is.
• 1:24:37
  It's- it pokes fun at … It doesn't take itself really seriously, and I like that.
• 1:24:41
  Yeah.
• 1:24:42
  But what's crazy about it, though, is that this was … So in 2007, I think it's
• 1:24:48
  actually, so it released in 2007, but only in a very limited, handful of theaters,
• 1:24:55
  and it may have been just festivals.
• 1:24:57
  Yeah.
• 1:24:57
  And I think it was in 2009 it went straight to DVD.
• 1:25:01
  Oh.
• 1:25:02
  And so this was a straight to DVD release- And over the years, it has gained so
• 1:25:08
  much popularity- Okay … that Sam is now, like, one of the icons of horror.
• 1:25:14
  Yeah.
• 1:25:15
  You go into a Spirit Halloween every year, you're gonna see a
• 1:25:18
  section for Michael Myers- Yep
• 1:25:20
  Freddy, Jason, uh, Ghostface, and you're gonna see one for Sam.
• 1:25:25
  And they make new merchandise all the time every year- Yeah … for Sam and this
• 1:25:30
  movie, and there's only been one of them.
• 1:25:34
  Whereas all those other ones, they've had multiple movies- Yeah
• 1:25:36
  … theatrical releases, all that stuff.
• 1:25:38
  So insanely impressive that it's just straight to DVD, and
• 1:25:42
  it climbed to what it is today.
• 1:25:45
  Yeah.
• 1:25:45
  Yeah.
• 1:25:46
  Was this… Did this used to be on Netflix?
• 1:25:48
  I feel like that's, like, where I saw the trailer f- or, like,
• 1:25:51
  might've been- It might've been.
• 1:25:51
  It is very possible.
• 1:25:52
  Yeah.
• 1:25:53
  It bounces around.
• 1:25:53
  Like, you'll see it pop up on streaming services.
• 1:25:56
  I think I saw it on one of them just the other day.
• 1:25:59
  Maybe on HBO, I'm not sure.
• 1:26:00
  Mm. But- Yeah.
• 1:26:02
  I thought it was really good.
• 1:26:03
  It's a classic little movie.
• 1:26:04
  Yeah, I agree.
• 1:26:06
  Okay, so next couple of episodes, we had talked about, So Backrooms has also, also
• 1:26:12
  came out this year, and it is on HBO Max.
• 1:26:16
  And so we had talked about doing that one, so I think we're gonna do Backrooms next.
• 1:26:21
  And then, so when this, when that one comes out, we'll be into November.
• 1:26:26
  And so for our second November episode, we would want to do Thanksgiving.
• 1:26:30
  I'm so excited about that one.
• 1:26:32
  And I think- So excited.
• 1:26:34
  I love that movie.
• 1:26:34
  Um, okay, I can't wait, 'cause I've never seen it.
• 1:26:37
  Oh, you haven't?
• 1:26:38
  It's just… I don't know.
• 1:26:39
  It's, it's got a campiness to it- Okay … that's on purpose.
• 1:26:42
  It's kind of in the same vein of Trick or Treat, where it's
• 1:26:46
  yeah, it's a scary movie.
• 1:26:47
  It's meant to be a… there are some, some things in it that you're
• 1:26:52
  like, "Oh, I recognize that's just how a scary movie goes." Yeah.
• 1:26:55
  But it pokes fun at itself in some ways in it, the slasher genre, perfect.
• 1:27:00
  Okay.
• 1:27:01
  I like it a lot.
• 1:27:02
  I'm excited.
• 1:27:02
  I think we've got some good ones coming up.
• 1:27:04
  So- Yeah … if you're still here, we're, we're glad that you've hung
• 1:27:07
  in there with all of the, all the things that we've talked about today.
• 1:27:10
  And then make sure you watch Backrooms and Thanksgiving in preparation for our
• 1:27:15
  next episodes, and we'll see you later.
• 1:27:17
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• 1:27:18
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• 1:27:19
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• 1:27:26
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• 1:27:30
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