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Sharri | 2 December · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry.
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Speaker 3: Good Evening.
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Speaker 4: Well, we've only got two weeks left until the Christmas break.
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Speaker 4: That's eight shows, so make sure you tune into every
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Speaker 4: single one coming up tonight. Backlash over an Australia Day
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Speaker 4: pub boycott as punters reject being bullied by corporates the
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Speaker 4: Wok company tonight issuing an apology.
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Speaker 3: Warren Mundane would join me live.
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Speaker 4: Also on the show, the author of Laptop from Hell,
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Speaker 4: Miranda Devine, responds to Joe Biden's pardon of his son Hunter.
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Speaker 4: That exclusive coming up, and the rift between Alberan Easy
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Speaker 4: and Tanya Plibisek. Labor insider Cameron Milner spills the beans.
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Speaker 4: But first let's go to the major backlash today to
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Speaker 4: the news that two hundred pubs across the country threatened
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Speaker 4: to ban Australia Day celebrations. The owners the private equity
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Speaker 4: firm based in Asia claimed our National Day caused sadness
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Speaker 4: and hurt. Well, this was outrageous. You don't boycott our
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Speaker 4: National Day. It's the fastest way ever to kill off
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Speaker 4: business and the company had to learn this the hard
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Speaker 4: way when they were forced to backtrack this evening and
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Speaker 4: issue a groveling apology to customers, and their backflip came
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Speaker 4: after premiers and politicians blasted their woke decision.
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Speaker 5: Countries need national days, they genuinely need them. We need
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Speaker 5: a sense of common purpose. I don't think it's what
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Speaker 5: the majority of people in the state or the country
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Speaker 5: agree with. And I also think that there has to
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Speaker 5: be a sense of national occasions.
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Speaker 6: I've participated in many Australian Day events over decades, and
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Speaker 6: I planned to continue into the years ahead.
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Speaker 7: From the government's perspective, it's our national day and the
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Speaker 7: day we come together.
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Speaker 8: We had the boys.
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Speaker 9: It was absolutely resoundingly defeated, and a lot of that
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Speaker 9: defeat was driven genous Australian saying absolutely we don't want
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Speaker 9: to be treated differently, and they celebrate Australia Day, many
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Speaker 9: of them in the same sort of way as we
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Speaker 9: as non Indigenous Australians.
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Speaker 4: And many commentators said the only way to react to
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Speaker 4: this proposed ban was to boycott the pubs.
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Speaker 2: Avoid them like the plague.
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Speaker 10: We have a stack of hotels right across the country
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Speaker 10: wanting to be part of Australia Day. Go to them instead.
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Speaker 6: The pubs owned by this group should become a patron
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Speaker 6: free zone.
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Speaker 7: There are plenty other pubs that you can go and
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Speaker 7: buy a beer at on Australia if these pubs don't
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Speaker 7: want to celebrate.
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Speaker 4: Australia and Indigenous Australians weren't happy about this either. Warren
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Speaker 4: Mundine will be on My show tonight, while an Indigenous
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Speaker 4: elder Ian hunter said that here to his family and
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Speaker 4: friends in remote communities like to celebrate Australia Day, they
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Speaker 4: have barbecues. He said it's the urban lefties, the white
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Speaker 4: people that are put wishing for this and he called
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Speaker 4: it condescending. In fact, there was so much backlash, mostly
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Speaker 4: from punters, that the Australia Venue Co by this evening
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Speaker 4: had apologized and reversed their decision. Releasing a statement, the
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Speaker 4: company said, we sincerely regret that our purpose is to
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Speaker 4: reinforce community in our venues, not divide it. It is
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Speaker 4: not for us to tell anyone whether or how to
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Speaker 4: celebrate Australia Day. They said, whether you choose to celebrate
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Speaker 4: Australia Day or not, everyone is welcome in our pubs always. Well,
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Speaker 4: they've been forced to backtrack, but there's no question their
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Speaker 4: original boycott was a deliberate decision.
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Speaker 3: And Chris Kenny pointed out earlier all the other days that.
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Speaker 4: This company boasts about celebrating, in a clear case of
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Speaker 4: virtue signaling.
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Speaker 11: You can see that Australian venue company does like to
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Speaker 11: celebrate some days. There's a big Gay Day they celebrate that.
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Speaker 11: It's a picture there too for Plant a Tree Day.
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Speaker 11: Also they're trumpeting how they celebrate where at Purple Day
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Speaker 11: and a similar day they have Lgbtqia Plus Day. There's
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Speaker 11: also Nadock Week celebrated for Indigenous Australians, of course, and
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Speaker 11: there's International Women's Day. They celebrate all these days and
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Speaker 11: they are all good days, to be sure, But apparently
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Speaker 11: there are two hundred pubs at bars in Australia now
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Speaker 11: who have time for all of those days, but no
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Speaker 11: time for our National Day.
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Speaker 4: Well said, and this company may have reversed their ban,
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Speaker 4: but the damage has been done. When Australians are looking
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Speaker 4: for somewhere to celebrate on January twenty six, they will
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Speaker 4: likely avoid these.
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Speaker 3: Two hundred venues.
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Speaker 4: And the company owns fifty seven pubs in Victoria, ten
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Speaker 4: in New South Wales, twenty in South Australia, ninety in Queensland,
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Speaker 4: the list goes on, but in New South Wales two
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Speaker 4: of their biggest ones are bungaloweight and Cargo in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: In Brisbane there's the Port Office.
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Speaker 4: Hotel in the Regatta Hotel in Melbourne, there's the Esplanade
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Speaker 4: Hotel in Prince of Wales and Sint Kilda, the Duke
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Speaker 4: of Wellington and Garden State Hotel in Melbourne. And if
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Speaker 4: you want the full list, it's up on our Sky
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Speaker 4: News website.
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Speaker 3: But this is part of.
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Speaker 4: A trend now of corporates trying to cancel our national Day.
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Speaker 4: It follows wool Words refusing to sell Australia Day merchandise
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Speaker 4: earlier this year and as you'll recall, about eighty councils
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Speaker 4: change the date of Australia Day citizenship ceremonies. Now, Australia
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Speaker 4: Day isn't about denying our history, what's and all. It's
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Speaker 4: about being grateful for the country we live in. But
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Speaker 4: there's this trend, pushed by activist groups and embraced by
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Speaker 4: corporate Australia, of trying to turn our national Day and
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Speaker 4: our Australian flag and everything it stands for into a
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Speaker 4: symbol of shame. They're trying to make Australians feel guilty
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Speaker 4: about celebrating our country. They're trying to bully us into
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Speaker 4: being ashamed of our national day, and the majority of
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Speaker 4: Australians don't want to change the date. An IPA poll
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Speaker 4: early this year showed sixty three percent one to keep
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Speaker 4: Australia Day on January twenty six. I personally always loved
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Speaker 4: Australia Day, and don't we all have memories dating back
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Speaker 4: decades of how we spent this one public holiday. Beach barbecue, friends, family,
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Speaker 4: cricket in the backyard and on TV, hot swims, rolling thunderstorms,
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Speaker 4: traditions passed down from one generation to the next.
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Speaker 3: I love this sunburnt country.
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Speaker 4: As Dorothy mckeli said, should be an Australia Day, a
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Speaker 4: single day when we can celebrate this great nation of
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Speaker 4: ours and how lucky we are.
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Speaker 3: To live here.
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Speaker 4: But having said that, I do have to admit that
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Speaker 4: this Australia Day will be heart Our country is not
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Speaker 4: its best self under the Albanzy government, from the deepening
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Speaker 4: cost of living crisis to the despicable rise in anti
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Speaker 4: Semitism Australia. At the end of twenty twenty four, is
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Speaker 4: sometimes not a country I recognize. It seems everything Albanez
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Speaker 4: he does as Prime Minister is only making life worse
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Speaker 4: for Australians.
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Speaker 3: We're pushing back.
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Speaker 4: At his radical changes and his misinformation laws thankfully were
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Speaker 4: voted down, but much of his green left agenda is
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Speaker 4: being rolled out and everyone is talking about it. Almost
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Speaker 4: every person I speak to says that this is the
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Speaker 4: worst government and the worst prime minister in Australia's history.
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Speaker 3: Let's face it, our beautiful.
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Speaker 4: Country is not what it was just a few short
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Speaker 4: years ago, and not what it can be with proper
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Speaker 4: leadership restored. I love this country, but it can be better.
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Speaker 4: And so this Australia Day in early twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 3: Will be bittersweet. We'll celebrate all that we have, but
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Speaker 3: we have to vow to fight to.
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Speaker 4: Protect our country from those who seek to undermine our
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Speaker 4: way of life and destroy our social cohesion, those activists
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Speaker 4: who found a friend in of all people, the Prime
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Speaker 4: Minister now Anthony Albinezi, is denying a rift with Tanya
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Speaker 4: Pleibasek after he killed off.
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Speaker 3: Her environmental laws.
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Speaker 4: But this saga is a fascinating insight into how the
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister does business, his lies and obfuscation. WA Premier
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Speaker 4: Roger Cook said that he spoke to Alberzi on Tuesday
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Speaker 4: and received an assurance that these laws would be on ice.
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Speaker 12: We were concerned in relation to some of the elements
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Speaker 12: of the nature positive laws and we made that position
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Speaker 12: very clear. Are very pleased to have received assurances from
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Speaker 12: the highest levels of government that those laws will not
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Speaker 12: be going ahead in their current form this week.
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Speaker 4: So the WA Premier saying pretty clearly there for everyone
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Speaker 4: to see out a press conference that albin Ezi agreed
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Speaker 4: to put these laws on ice. The understanding is that
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Speaker 4: they would have been problematic politically at both the state
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Speaker 4: and federal level in WA. So Albinizi made this decision
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Speaker 4: apparently without consulting the Minister in charge, Tanya Plivasek, who'd
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Speaker 4: been negotiating in good faith with the Greens.
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Speaker 3: Alber Ezi tried to deny all of this.
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Speaker 4: Haven't Thirty host Sarah Ferguson It pushed him repeatedly, as
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Speaker 4: she does in her persistent way, you killed.
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Speaker 13: The environmental laws promised at the last election in order to,
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Speaker 13: as we understand it, protects seats in Western Australia. Was
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Speaker 13: that you just clearing the decks for an election.
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Speaker 10: Now, well, that's not right. Did the legislation remain so
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Speaker 10: stuck in the Senate we didn't have the majority for it, Sarah,
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Speaker 10: there's a rate you.
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Speaker 13: Killed the negotiations. So what did you say when the
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Speaker 13: Premier of Western Australia rang you to or you spoke
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Speaker 13: to the Premier of Western Australia to talk about that
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Speaker 13: bill and why it should be held up?
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Speaker 10: I spoke to the Premier of WA about my visit
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Speaker 10: to WA next week.
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Speaker 13: You didn't talk about the bill.
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Speaker 2: That was the BASI.
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Speaker 10: Well, I don't give all the details of my private
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Speaker 10: discussions with.
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Speaker 13: Premiers In talking about the bill? What did you say?
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Speaker 13: Did you agree with him that it was not the
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Speaker 13: right moment for that bill to be concluded?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 10: I informed him that we didn't have the numbers.
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Speaker 13: So how did the Premier of Western Australia reached the
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Speaker 13: conclusion that he had been instrumental in stopping that building
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Speaker 13: resolved this week?
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Speaker 10: That's a question for the premiere. He's a good friend
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Speaker 10: of mine.
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Speaker 3: And that went on.
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Speaker 4: So Alberizi reluctantly admitted there that he had spoken to
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Speaker 4: Roger Cook about this, but denied it was the reason
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Speaker 4: he killed off the deal. He even denied that the
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Speaker 4: laws were permanently done and dusted again. Plivosk, the Minister
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Speaker 4: in charge, was reportedly never brought into this decision.
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Speaker 3: She did a deal with the.
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Speaker 4: Greens and that alban Easy in a meeting that didn't
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Speaker 4: include her, that included Katie Gallagher, and the Greens killed
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Speaker 4: it off. Now Albinizi has presented different versions of events
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Speaker 4: of what happened. He even tried to claim a deal
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Speaker 4: was never struck or at least not with him.
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Speaker 8: Have a look on.
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Speaker 7: These environment laws. Clearly a deal was either close or
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Speaker 7: according to the Greens, was done. They reckon you did
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Speaker 7: I say that?
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Speaker 10: Non't and they don't say that David. There is no
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Speaker 10: one in the Green says that I.
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Speaker 3: Agreed to it.
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Speaker 4: And David Spears said he'd done a draft agreement or
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Speaker 4: he'd seen a draft agreement between Plebasak and the Greens.
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Speaker 4: Albanezi denied it again or said it wasn't with him.
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Speaker 10: There's no draft agreement to me, and what we did
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Speaker 10: was make.
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Speaker 7: Sure saying that letter doesn't exist.
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Speaker 10: Well, no letter to me exists. I was negotiating across
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Speaker 10: the parliament and that's how you have to do it.
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Speaker 10: You can't have forty five sets of negotiations.
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Speaker 7: But a letter from the minister to the Greens that
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Speaker 7: you're saying you weren't aware of.
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Speaker 10: That, well, that wasn't a letter from me.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is splitting hats. She's his cabinet minister.
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Speaker 4: There was clearly an agreement between Plebasak on behalf of
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Speaker 4: the Albenezy government and the Greens.
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Speaker 3: But how can anyone believe anything this bloke says. You've
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Speaker 3: just seen how we twists and turns.
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Speaker 4: Albanezy has rejected suggestions that he was treating Tania pilibisec
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Speaker 4: poorly as minister.
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Speaker 7: When you told them there was no deal on this
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Speaker 7: it was you adambout Sarah Hanson young but not in
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Speaker 7: Katy gallaher okay, but not Tania Pilibisik the minister.
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Speaker 10: Why not because we had forty five pieces of legislation.
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Speaker 7: David, I've had some of your caucus colleagues expressed to
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Speaker 7: me of view that Tanya plibi Sik was unnecessarily treated badly.
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Speaker 4: So Plibisek had done a deal and alban Easy and
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Speaker 4: his mate Katie Gallagher undid it? So where does this
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Speaker 4: leave Tanya Plibisek and her authority? This is disastrous disunity
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Speaker 4: at the highest levels of the Albanezy government, leaking going
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Speaker 4: on to the ABC ahead of an interview with the
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister from his own colleagues, and now he's facing
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Speaker 4: ongoing questions about a rift.
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Speaker 5: And this is how are things between you and Tania
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Speaker 5: Plibask now though, because there's there's still confusion from some
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Speaker 5: over what happened here in talk of an internal feud,
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Speaker 5: can you categorically deny.
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Speaker 10: That, Absolutely, there's still some It's extraordinary that the media
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Speaker 10: want to concentrate on what didn't happen as opposed to
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Speaker 10: what did happen.
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Speaker 4: Always criticizing the media, but the problems.
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Speaker 3: Extend to other areas as well.
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Speaker 4: There's reports today that tensions are flaring between the pair
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Speaker 4: between alban Ezi and Plibisek over the controversial issue of
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Speaker 4: salmon farming in Tasmania. And I'm going to talk about
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Speaker 4: that with Joe gilder Brand and Steve Price in a moment.
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Speaker 4: But clearly on the environment laws there was a deal
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Speaker 4: that Albanzi scufp it. Perhaps it didn't bother him that
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Speaker 4: he'd step all over Plibisek. They've been political rivals for years.
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Speaker 4: But Tanya Plibisek is reportedly pretty angry about how this unfolded.
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Speaker 4: And meanwhile, the sense voters have is that they're not
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Speaker 4: being told the truth. I mean, wouldn't it have been
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Speaker 4: better for alben Ezi to say, yep Wa was unhappy
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Speaker 4: about these laws. It was going to cost us votes
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Speaker 4: at the next election, so we dumped them. Isn't it
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Speaker 4: better for him to be honest with Australians instead of
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Speaker 4: muddling up excuses and getting caught out trying to twist
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Speaker 4: the truth because voters are smart, certainly smarter than alban Easy,
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Speaker 4: that's for sure, and we can see easily through his shenanigans.
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Speaker 4: All Right, a big show coming up. I've got New
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Speaker 4: York Post columnist Miranda Devine joining me to discuss Joe
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Speaker 4: Biden's stunning backflip on his decision to pardon his son
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Speaker 4: Cameron Milner, Warren Mundine, Sarah Henderson. But first, let's bring
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Speaker 4: in our Sky News host Steve.
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Speaker 3: Price and contributor Joe Hildebrandt. Welcome.
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Speaker 4: Before we get to you, Joe trying to defend Albo
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Speaker 4: Steve Price. We are seeing repeated signs here of disunity
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Speaker 4: at the very top of the alban Easy government, not
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Speaker 4: just the rift between Albanizi and Antonia Plebisak.
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Speaker 3: But colleagues who are really.
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Speaker 4: Concerned about how he treated her, a senior woman in
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Speaker 4: the Albanzi government.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it resembles the shambles, doesn't it. And when you
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Speaker 14: put those clips together as you have tonight, I mean
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Speaker 14: you can just see Anthony Albanesi dodging and weaving. It
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Speaker 14: can be very interesting to see how Joe defends him tonight.
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Speaker 14: But I mean you've got to go all the way
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Speaker 14: back to when they won the election. I mean, Tanny
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Speaker 14: Plubisec wanted to be education minister, as I understand it,
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Speaker 14: and Anthony Alberzi threw her the handball she didn't want
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Speaker 14: to receive, which was environment She didn't want to do
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Speaker 14: that job. She was very unhappy about the job she
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Speaker 14: was given. So it's no surprises that's come to this.
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Speaker 14: What is surprising though, is the fact that Anthony Albanezi
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Speaker 14: would be so blunt about it that he would have
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Speaker 14: Katie Gallagher in the meeting. He's got bant there, he's
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Speaker 14: got other Green MPs I would say that in the past,
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Speaker 14: I'll be interested in you Yon the Sharin. In the past,
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Speaker 14: a minister, cabinet minister treated that badly would put their
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Speaker 14: hand up and say, I'm going to jump out of
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Speaker 14: this job. I'll go to the back bench. Thanks, and
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Speaker 14: I'll see you down the track.
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Speaker 4: Joe, what do you think. I'm not sure a cabinet
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Speaker 4: minister would do that.
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Speaker 3: So publicly they knife the leader in the back round.
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Speaker 4: I've done it in the past, but this is an
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Speaker 4: undeniable not just rift but leaking as well against the
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Speaker 4: prime minister.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 15: Look, I think it's certainly Steve is right that Tania
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Speaker 15: Pundesect was expecting to continue in the education portfolio, in
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Speaker 15: so much as anyone expected anything. But the Prime Minister's
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Speaker 15: job is to allocate portfolios in the cabinet, and that
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Speaker 15: is the Prime Minister's progative, so he's allowed to give
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Speaker 15: anyone whatever jobs he wants in terms of the actual
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Speaker 15: decision making. And again putting aside the sort of personal
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Speaker 15: rift or whatever that people seem to be obsessed with.
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Speaker 15: Are you suggesting or is there a suggestion that the
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Speaker 15: PM should have stuck with the nature positive laws done
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Speaker 15: with the Green where a deal has been done with
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Speaker 15: the Greens that could potentially.
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Speaker 3: The suggestion is he hasn't been a frunt about it.
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Speaker 4: And besides, these controversial laws were laws that he promised
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Speaker 4: he would introduce before the election.
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Speaker 15: That's right, that's right, and in the cold and in
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Speaker 15: the cold light of day, once he's actually got his
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Speaker 15: hands from the range.
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Speaker 3: It has been upfront about that. But he hasn't. He
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Speaker 3: said no, We're still going to introduce them next year.
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Speaker 4: He's not even saying that they're done and dust the election.
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Speaker 15: There been three three issues and again I like DANIELI
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Speaker 15: a lot as well as you say, I like everybody.
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Speaker 15: But there was the mcfillmy's gold mine fiasco where this
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Speaker 15: blue band doesn't exist.
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Speaker 2: We do this every one week.
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Speaker 15: There was there was a there was a literal one
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Speaker 15: billion dollar gold mine where a submission about a blue
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Speaker 15: banded bee and a dreaming of that and a dreaming
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Speaker 15: of that bee that the actual local official Aboriginal elders
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Speaker 15: say is bogus, is bullets or her decisions?
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Speaker 4: Can I just say they are both from the radical
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Speaker 4: left faction Tania polib second anthemy.
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Speaker 1: Easy and leadership governing from the center statening from this,
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Speaker 1: he's not even governing at all.
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Speaker 3: Joe garverening at all. He's not not just not from
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Speaker 3: the center, he's not governing at all.
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Speaker 2: But Tanyli I would rather deal with the Greens goes.
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Speaker 4: No one said that Joe tiny plibisk remains a future
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Speaker 4: leadership threat to alban Easy and that's why he's so
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Speaker 4: concerned about her and why he put her in this
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Speaker 4: portfolio in the first place, and potentially why she's causing
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Speaker 4: him so many problems.
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Speaker 3: Let's turn to the budget now.
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Speaker 4: We're looking at fresh budget forecasts from economist Chris Richardson
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Speaker 4: and have a look at what he said. He said
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Speaker 4: that since being elected, the government has made decisions that
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Speaker 4: have added one hundred and four billion dollars to spending
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Speaker 4: while also raising taxes by forty four billion dollars for
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Speaker 4: a net worsening of the budget bottom line by six
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Speaker 4: billion dollars. Steve, isn't this irresponsible spending in an inflation crisis?
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Speaker 2: Well, of course it is.
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Speaker 14: I mean, and he may be copying Tim Pallas in Victoria,
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Speaker 14: because all they do down here is also try and
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Speaker 14: spend their way out of trouble. I mean, they've made
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Speaker 14: so many promises. I mean, obviously the hex's debt promise
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Speaker 14: is going to be very expensive. Jim Chalmers got lucky,
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Speaker 14: he got two surpluses and now the economics have caught
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Speaker 14: up with him and as they head toward the election,
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Speaker 14: the timing couldn't be any worse. The debt is soaring.
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Speaker 14: Are you going to get budget deficits are The Australian
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Speaker 14: reported last week there was a forty two billion dollar
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Speaker 14: turnaround to the worst downwards and so now they're going
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Speaker 14: to have to fight an election. They're going to have
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Speaker 14: to promise more things that they have to go. If
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Speaker 14: they go, you know, in the first half of next year,
20:49
Speaker 14: they're going to have to come out after the Christmas
20:51
Speaker 14: break and promise more spending. That's the only way they
20:53
Speaker 14: think they're going to get re elected. Make expensive promises
20:56
Speaker 14: and hope you suck people in.
20:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that is going to be a major
21:00
Speaker 4: worry pre election spending announcements.
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Speaker 3: But Joe, I want to get your prediction.
21:03
Speaker 4: There's a lot of debate over whether or not there's
21:06
Speaker 4: going to be another budget.
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Speaker 3: What do you think?
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Speaker 2: Look, it's a hard one.
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Speaker 15: I think the most important thing they will be looking
21:12
Speaker 15: at is not the budget. It's whether or not there
21:14
Speaker 15: is a likelihood of a rate cut, So that will
21:16
Speaker 15: determine whether or not they go for an election. If
21:17
Speaker 15: they think they can just squeeze that and going to
21:20
Speaker 15: happen before an election, that's right. So if it looks
21:23
Speaker 15: like if it looks like there's going to be no
21:24
Speaker 15: chance of a rate cut, they will probably go early
21:27
Speaker 15: because they will not want to be in the middle
21:30
Speaker 15: of a campaign with people hoping for or expecting a
21:33
Speaker 15: rate cut and not getting one, So you would go earlier,
21:35
Speaker 15: so he.
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Speaker 3: Might not return to parliament in that scenario.
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Speaker 2: I think the budget is this?
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Speaker 15: I think yeah, possibly. I think the budget is a
21:43
Speaker 15: secondary consideration and why I certainly understand that. You know,
21:46
Speaker 15: people who like to pour over these figures and have
21:48
Speaker 15: an understanding of economics know what the implication of a
21:51
Speaker 15: budget surplus or deficit is for the economy. Most people
21:54
Speaker 15: simply think, what's in it for me? What am I
21:57
Speaker 15: getting out of it? Clearly the government has spent more
21:59
Speaker 15: than a lot of people would like, but it's made
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Speaker 15: that decision deliberately because it was not prepared to accept
22:05
Speaker 15: you know, people sort of falling through the cracks during
22:08
Speaker 15: what has been a much longer cost of living crisis
22:10
Speaker 15: than and more severe I think than most people expected.
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Speaker 13: All.
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Speaker 4: I think the spending is in a range of areas,
22:15
Speaker 4: not just the cost of living crisis.
22:17
Speaker 3: But let's keep.
22:19
Speaker 4: Moving and have a look at the warnings we're now
22:21
Speaker 4: getting about blackouts, and not just for New South Wales either,
22:25
Speaker 4: but across the country. The Daily Telegraph reporting that without
22:29
Speaker 4: urgent action.
22:29
Speaker 3: Will all be paying more for power even when it's
22:32
Speaker 3: not working. I mean, Steve Price, if there are blackouts
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Speaker 3: or the.
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Speaker 4: Risk of it, or if yet again we're told to
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Speaker 4: limit our power use over the summer months and we're
22:43
Speaker 4: just starting summer now. I mean, look, this has been
22:47
Speaker 4: gross mishandling of our energy system by both state and
22:51
Speaker 4: federal governments.
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Speaker 14: Can you imagine being in a country as rich in
22:55
Speaker 14: energy as we are and having a premier Tellia last
22:58
Speaker 14: week to turn your dishwasher often, don't put the air
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Speaker 14: conditioner on full ball because you might force a blackout.
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Speaker 14: In New South Wales extraordinary, it wasn't even hot. It
23:08
Speaker 14: got to thirty three or thirty four degrees. It wasn't
23:10
Speaker 14: even like a forty degree day. I mean, it's just
23:13
Speaker 14: unbelievable that we're in this position and it's going to
23:16
Speaker 14: get worse. And then I just can't believe Chris Bowen
23:20
Speaker 14: dancing around the country. You know, I was celebrating the
23:22
Speaker 14: fact that he's going to be the renewables king when
23:25
Speaker 14: the rest of the country might have blackouts. I mean,
23:27
Speaker 14: Joe talks about an early election. Well, they might be
23:30
Speaker 14: having an early election in the middle of say, you know, March,
23:33
Speaker 14: when it's forty really is forty degrees in western Sydney
23:37
Speaker 14: and people can't turn their air conditioners on. That's going
23:39
Speaker 14: to be That's going to go down well in an
23:41
Speaker 14: election campaign, isn't it.
23:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good point. I mean, you think
23:45
Speaker 3: about Chris Bowen.
23:46
Speaker 4: There are so many ministers in the Albanezi government who
23:49
Speaker 4: would be competing for the title of the worst most
23:52
Speaker 4: unpopular minister. Is it Panny Wong, is it Chris Bowen,
23:55
Speaker 4: is it Tony Berg? I mean, you've never met a
23:58
Speaker 4: less likable government.
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Speaker 15: There's some very likable people in the government if you
24:02
Speaker 15: just get to know them, Sharry, I'll.
24:04
Speaker 2: Introduce you to them.
24:05
Speaker 3: But manimal animal, there's.
24:08
Speaker 15: I think certainly it is not the time to be
24:11
Speaker 15: crowing about climate change and renewables at a time when
24:14
Speaker 15: people cannot afford to pay their power bills or even
24:16
Speaker 15: turn on their appliances in the middle of the heat wave. Ironically,
24:19
Speaker 15: of course, the same people who are saying that this
24:21
Speaker 15: renewable stuff is all crazy, the same people saying there's
24:23
Speaker 15: going to be record hot days in March, like there
24:26
Speaker 15: were record hot days in November. So maybe there's a
24:28
Speaker 15: little bit of something to this climate change thing, but
24:30
Speaker 15: the truth is it's spend in omni shambles.
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Speaker 2: That's been not.
24:34
Speaker 15: Hot days at all.
24:35
Speaker 2: There are two, there are two, there are.
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Speaker 14: Two regid history of hot temperatures in Sydney.
24:41
Speaker 2: Mate, Well, certainly it's been very hot in.
24:43
Speaker 4: November, Dorothy mckeler earlier, as she said, we've always had a.
24:47
Speaker 2: Sign we have we have in God love it. But
24:51
Speaker 2: it is getting worse.
24:51
Speaker 15: But the at.
24:54
Speaker 14: Least Senney swamped and rain.
24:56
Speaker 2: Yesterday it was that's right, very.
24:59
Speaker 4: Ratic weather light and then today it was all right,
25:03
Speaker 4: we've got to move and we've got to get to work.
25:06
Speaker 15: Part of the reason for the shortages because colified plants
25:08
Speaker 15: have not been maintained.
25:09
Speaker 4: We need more gas in this Yes, it hasn't been
25:11
Speaker 4: investment deliberate decision to kill them off.
25:14
Speaker 3: Steve Price, Joe, you're making him shake his.
25:17
Speaker 1: Head against it's the whole audience against you.
25:22
Speaker 2: Al but easy. Look at what is another repressed.
25:29
Speaker 3: Back up people? Thank you both for joining me again.
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Speaker 4: All right, as we spoke about it at the start of
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Speaker 4: the show, the nation's second biggest pubs group, Australian Venue Co,
25:40
Speaker 4: has been forced to backflip on their boycott of Australia
25:43
Speaker 4: Day after a massive backlash from Australians. Let's bring in
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Speaker 4: now the director of the Indigenous Forum at the Center
25:49
Speaker 4: for Independent Studies, worrying Mundane Warren.
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Speaker 3: So good to see you as always see you. How
25:54
Speaker 3: did you did you view.
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Speaker 4: This as the latest work company to engage in virtue signaling.
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Speaker 16: Look, it's probably the worst one because there's been a
26:03
Speaker 16: number of companies now have cropped a flogging over this issue,
26:07
Speaker 16: and they've seen it during the Voice campaign and so
26:10
Speaker 16: the last Australia Day in twenty twenty four and then
26:14
Speaker 16: they still come out, you know, a couple of months
26:17
Speaker 16: before the next Australia Day and come up with this
26:21
Speaker 16: dog of an idea. We're all getting sick and tired
26:26
Speaker 16: of this. The Australian people are getting sick and tired
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Speaker 16: of it, and we're not going to cop it anymore.
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Speaker 2: You know, we celebrate Australia.
26:33
Speaker 16: Day not because of talking about invasions and we're talking
26:36
Speaker 16: about James Cooker, half of Philip and that we celebrate
26:40
Speaker 16: Australia Day because Australia is a great country and Australians
26:44
Speaker 16: are great people. All the migrants who come here worked hard.
26:48
Speaker 16: Some of them couldn't even speak English when they come here,
26:50
Speaker 16: and they got out. They worked in the factories, they
26:53
Speaker 16: worked out on the roads. I worked with them across
26:55
Speaker 16: the country in regards to pipelines and power stations and
26:59
Speaker 16: all the incredible, amazing people who help build this country.
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Speaker 16: And we've got people who have been here for over
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Speaker 16: two hundred years and in those institutions we have in
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Speaker 16: the rule of law and everything like that. And then
27:10
Speaker 16: of course the indigenous people, you know, been here for
27:14
Speaker 16: thousands of years, and we've built this amazing country of multiculturalism,
27:19
Speaker 16: in multi face, multi everything, multi It's just an amazing,
27:26
Speaker 16: amazing country and it's under threat. And as you said
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Speaker 16: in your introduction tonight, you know, Shari. You know nowadays,
27:34
Speaker 16: underfret and the time we need everyone to come together
27:38
Speaker 16: and to work together.
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Speaker 2: We have a stupid company.
27:42
Speaker 16: Like the AVC coming out and saying we're not going
27:45
Speaker 16: to celebrate Australia and forcing their staff and not celebrate it.
27:49
Speaker 16: And I'm sure there's a lot of people who work
27:52
Speaker 16: for them who actually do want to celebrate it, but
27:54
Speaker 16: also putting them in a dangerous position. Couldn't you imagine
27:57
Speaker 16: if someone accidentally walks into one of their pubs, got
27:59
Speaker 16: is a tray and T shirt on and his flag
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Speaker 16: on his head, and he comes up and he gives
28:04
Speaker 16: the bloke a cuddlet at the bar and says, Happy
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Speaker 16: Australia Day. What's that staff member supposed to do? You
28:11
Speaker 16: know what this is to ask.
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Speaker 4: You, though you know you have very mainstream views and
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Speaker 4: some of these issues you're rejecting, the push to change
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Speaker 4: the date, what sort of backlash do you get from
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Speaker 4: some Indigenous Australians but also from you know, the radical left.
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Speaker 16: All the good news for me is in the in
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Speaker 16: the Indigenous Australians is a lot of people support my views.
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Speaker 16: You see them coming out you know today and Yesterday's
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Speaker 16: saying hey, you know, we want to support you know, Australia.
28:44
Speaker 16: In fact, I was in Kannanara a few years ago
28:46
Speaker 16: when I got rung on the phone from an Australian
28:48
Speaker 16: TV show and they said, look what average will seek
28:51
Speaker 16: And I said, well, I'm just passing the phone around
28:53
Speaker 16: here because I'm standing with twenty of them. I passed
28:56
Speaker 16: the phone around and everyone responded, we don't care. We
28:59
Speaker 16: just want to have a good day. We want to
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Speaker 16: celebrate and bring it together. And they were shocked. They said,
29:04
Speaker 16: here we are niece and Kimberley's Aboriginal people think that way. Well,
29:06
Speaker 16: a lot of Abriiginals people think that there were too
29:08
Speaker 16: many people listen to these radicals. But as you say,
29:12
Speaker 16: the most against this are non Abrigals, white people and that.
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Speaker 4: But do you think these activists are going to continue
29:20
Speaker 4: and continue to bully everyone on this issue until the
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Speaker 4: date has changed.
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Speaker 16: Oh, They're going to keep on bullying. There's no doubt
29:28
Speaker 16: about that. You know, I'm always reminded by Margaret Margaret
29:31
Speaker 16: factors in comments. You know, you don't win wars, win
29:34
Speaker 16: you win battles, and then the next morning you get
29:36
Speaker 16: up and fight the same battle again. But The difference
29:38
Speaker 16: now is Australia has caught a cop that in the past,
29:41
Speaker 16: but since the voice they saying okay, you're bastards now.
29:45
Speaker 16: We we love this country. We love the migrants who
29:47
Speaker 16: come here, we love, love, love the British institutions we've got,
29:50
Speaker 16: we love the Indigenous people, and we all want to
29:53
Speaker 16: come together and work together and keep on this journey
29:56
Speaker 16: of building a strong, important and incredible nation. And they're
30:01
Speaker 16: sick and tired of all this division that people are pushing.
30:04
Speaker 16: And I'm glad to see that this company got a
30:06
Speaker 16: bit of a whack around the head and it almost
30:09
Speaker 16: come to come back to common sense. They didn't actually
30:11
Speaker 16: say that they were going to support Australia today. You know,
30:15
Speaker 16: you've got to be reading some of their medly mouth words.
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Speaker 16: We're going to fight these people because we want to
30:21
Speaker 16: keep Australia as a great nation. Everyone can come together,
30:27
Speaker 16: no matter what their faith is and what their ethneticity is,
30:31
Speaker 16: and make this country a better country.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, said Warren Mundine. Thank you very much for
30:37
Speaker 3: joining me tonight. Really appreciate it.
30:39
Speaker 4: Thank you now still to Comet Camera's Rumormel is working
30:43
Speaker 4: over time. Cameron Milner is going to join us with
30:47
Speaker 4: to spill the beans on the inside detail of the
30:50
Speaker 4: rift between Tanya Plubsek and Anthony Albanezi, plus Joe Biden's
30:54
Speaker 4: extraordinary lie pardoning his son Hunter. Miranda Devine, who wrote
30:59
Speaker 4: the book on the Laptop from Hell, will join me next.
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Speaker 3: That's after this quick break. Welcome back, we're us.
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Speaker 4: President Joe Biden and his Press secretary Karine Jean Pierre
31:13
Speaker 4: have repeatedly promised not to make any moves to pardon
31:18
Speaker 4: Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 2: But let me ask you.
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Speaker 6: Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter
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Speaker 6: what it is. Yes, And have you ruled out a
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Speaker 6: pardon for your son?
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Speaker 5: Yes, I shaid, I admired by the jury decision.
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Speaker 10: I will do that and.
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Speaker 2: I will not partner him.
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Speaker 6: From a presidential perspective, is there any possibility that the
31:37
Speaker 6: president would end up pardoning his son?
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Speaker 3: No, I just said no. I just answer you, go ahead,
31:44
Speaker 3: go ahead.
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Speaker 4: It's the same the world over, political lies and spit,
31:49
Speaker 4: And of course, in his final days in the White House,
31:52
Speaker 4: Joe Biden today once again went against his word and
31:55
Speaker 4: pardoned his son Hunter. Biden was found guilty of lying
31:59
Speaker 4: about his drug use when buying a gun, as well
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Speaker 4: as tax evasion, and now he's going to be spared
32:04
Speaker 4: a prison sentence. The President, in a statement, blamed a
32:07
Speaker 4: confected witch hunt. He said there'd been a miscarriage of justice.
32:11
Speaker 4: He said the charges in his cases came about only
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Speaker 4: after several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them
32:19
Speaker 4: to attack me and oppose my election. He said, no
32:21
Speaker 4: reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter's cases
32:24
Speaker 4: can reach any other conclusion than Hunter was singled out
32:28
Speaker 4: only because he's my son.
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Speaker 3: Well, that is some rewriting of history.
32:34
Speaker 4: As you know, this entire story was censored by tech
32:38
Speaker 4: giants eight years ago. Well I spoke about this stunning
32:41
Speaker 4: backflip with the author of two books related to this case,
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Speaker 4: Laptop from Hell and The Big Guy, Miranda Divine, a
32:48
Speaker 4: little earlier.
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Speaker 3: Miranda Divine, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 4: As always, firstly, what's your reaction to the news that
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden, who promised that the law would apply equally
32:58
Speaker 4: to everyone, has now pardoned his son Hunter.
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Speaker 17: Well, look, Sherry, I think it's probably the least surprising
33:06
Speaker 17: news of the decade, certainly the least surprising news of
33:09
Speaker 17: this whole Hunter Biden saga. It was obvious that Joe
33:14
Speaker 17: Biden was going to pardon his son, despite the fact
33:18
Speaker 17: that he.
33:18
Speaker 8: Had repeatedly vowed not to do it.
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Speaker 17: You know, he's told reporters that there was no way
33:26
Speaker 17: that he was going to pardon his son, that he
33:28
Speaker 17: promised not to do it, and he was going to
33:30
Speaker 17: not do it because he was a man of his word.
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Speaker 17: Karine Jean Pierre and the White House podium kept on saying,
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Speaker 17: I mean as recently as just after the election, she
33:41
Speaker 17: kept on reiterating, no, Joe Biden's not going to pardon
33:45
Speaker 17: his son. But you know, Joe Biden never keeps his word.
33:49
Speaker 17: He's always breaking promises, he's always telling lies. So I
33:54
Speaker 17: think it's rather fitting that one of the final acts
33:58
Speaker 17: that this president makes before he leaves office is to
34:02
Speaker 17: break yet another promise to the American people.
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Speaker 3: Well, Miranda.
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Speaker 4: In his statement explaining his decision, Joe Biden claimed that
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Speaker 4: Hunter had been hard done by and persecuted and unfairly targeted.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Miranda, what about your two books.
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Speaker 4: Your thorough investigation has been anything remotely unfair. It's really
34:22
Speaker 4: been the opposite, hasn't it. There's barely been any action taken.
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Speaker 17: You're absolutely right, it's been the complete opposite. Hunter Biden
34:30
Speaker 17: has acted always with impunity. He's broken the law. He's
34:35
Speaker 17: committed crimes. I mean, he's admitted to committing tax fraud
34:39
Speaker 17: and tax evasion when he pleaded guilty in September to
34:43
Speaker 17: those felony charges in California that would have carried, you know,
34:48
Speaker 17: at least average a three year jail term, and when
34:53
Speaker 17: he was convicted by a jury in Delaware on those
34:55
Speaker 17: gun charges in June. He knew that his father's power
35:02
Speaker 17: and influence would always protect him. And as you said,
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Speaker 17: in both of my books, in Laptop from Hell and
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Speaker 17: in The Big Guy, I've charted just how his father
35:13
Speaker 17: and his father's minions in the government, whether it be
35:16
Speaker 17: the FBI or the Department of Justice, or the State Department,
35:20
Speaker 17: or the CIA or even the irs, have all swung
35:25
Speaker 17: in behind Hunter Biden to clean up his messes, to
35:29
Speaker 17: get him off the hook. He was constantly getting into
35:32
Speaker 17: trouble and being a problem because he was a crack addict,
35:36
Speaker 17: and he was ricocheting around the world just basically extracting
35:42
Speaker 17: money from America's adversaries, from China, from Russia, from Ukraine,
35:48
Speaker 17: all sorts of places that his father, when he was
35:50
Speaker 17: vice president, had power over by a hunter would just
35:55
Speaker 17: sort of invoke his father's name and promise various favors
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Speaker 17: from his father, and he would get millions of dollars.
36:03
Speaker 4: Miranda, Do you think there's any chance that under a
36:06
Speaker 4: Trump administration we will see some of these matters properly
36:09
Speaker 4: investigated for the first time.
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Speaker 2: Look, I don't know.
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Speaker 17: I know that Donald Trump has just, for instance, nominated
36:19
Speaker 17: cash Patel to be the FBI director, which has caused
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Speaker 17: great conniptions on the seventh floor of the jad Go
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Speaker 17: Hoover Building in Washington, DC, where the top executives sit
36:31
Speaker 17: because Cash Patel, when he worked for a congressman who
36:36
Speaker 17: was the head of the Intelligence Committee back in twenty sixteen,
36:39
Speaker 17: twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, Devin Nuness, Cash Pateel was instrumental
36:45
Speaker 17: in exposing the Russia Gate hoax and the wrongdoing by
36:51
Speaker 17: various people in the FBI and other members of the
36:54
Speaker 17: deep state in framing a Hillary Clinton's campaign, as well
36:58
Speaker 17: in framing Donald Trump as being somehow of Vladimir Putin's lackey,
37:02
Speaker 17: an agent of Russia that was all false and shown
37:06
Speaker 17: to be false by the Muller Report, but it crippled
37:09
Speaker 17: Donald Trump's presidency. So once bitten twice shy, he's now
37:14
Speaker 17: put a real attack dog in there to clean out
37:17
Speaker 17: the FBI, and I'm sure that Cash Pattel. It's not
37:20
Speaker 17: about vengeance, but it's about accountability for those people who
37:26
Speaker 17: who really perverted the.
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Speaker 8: Course of justice.
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Speaker 17: And in my second book, The Big Guy, I talk
37:32
Speaker 17: about how with the Hunter Biden and Joe Biden corruption story,
37:37
Speaker 17: the biggest story ended up being the cover up by
37:41
Speaker 17: those agencies I mentioned the CIA, FBI, Department of Justice,
37:45
Speaker 17: State Department, and in basically protecting Joe Biden and covering
37:52
Speaker 17: up the crimes of his family and the corruption of
37:55
Speaker 17: his family and also the fact that he was involved,
37:59
Speaker 17: that was very elaborate cover up and really compromised those institutions,
38:06
Speaker 17: the security apparatus of the United States. I think that
38:10
Speaker 17: at the very least the fifty one former intelligence officials,
38:13
Speaker 17: most of them from the CIA, who signed that dishonest
38:17
Speaker 17: letter saying that the laptop was Russian disinformation, I think
38:21
Speaker 17: they will be seeing some scrutiny on their behavior, and
38:26
Speaker 17: at the very least they'll have their security clearances revoked.
38:31
Speaker 17: And since many of them are current CIA contractors, they
38:35
Speaker 17: weren't just formers, they were contractors. But even more sinister
38:40
Speaker 17: is the fact that that letter got the green light
38:43
Speaker 17: from the then CIA director under Donald Trump, Gina Haspell.
38:48
Speaker 17: She knew full well as did everyone who signed the letter,
38:52
Speaker 17: that it wasn't Russian disinformation, and she should have known
38:56
Speaker 17: that the FBI had had possession of that laptop since
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Speaker 17: November of twenty or December of twenty nineteen, and they'd
39:03
Speaker 17: verified that it was Hunter Biden's, that it was not
39:07
Speaker 17: tampered with, and that it was fit for use in
39:10
Speaker 17: a court of law, which it was used in June.
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Speaker 2: In that Delaware courtroom.
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Speaker 17: I sat there and I watched as that silver MacBook
39:18
Speaker 17: Pro was held aloft by the prosecutor, walked across the courtroom,
39:23
Speaker 17: shown to the jury, and then shown to the FBI
39:27
Speaker 17: forensic expert in the witness box, who verified that, yes,
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Speaker 17: this was Hunter Biden's laptop, the very laptop we were
39:34
Speaker 17: told wasn't real.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's extraordinary.
39:36
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been eight years now since the laptop
39:39
Speaker 4: was first discovered. It's been such an extraordinary journey since
39:42
Speaker 4: then the claim of Russian disinformation, the tech platforms removing
39:46
Speaker 4: it are now in a sense, it's come full circle,
39:49
Speaker 4: Biden having to take the step of pardoning his son,
39:52
Speaker 4: and we may or may not see more thorough investigation
39:55
Speaker 4: under the likes of Patel and John Ratcliffe.
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Speaker 3: We'll see, all right.
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Speaker 4: Miranda Devine, thank you so much much for joining us.
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Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.
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Speaker 17: Thank you, Sherry, it's great to see you again.
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Speaker 4: All Right, Still coming up on the show, the teals
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Speaker 4: accused of lacking integrity. Sarah Henderson will join me later,
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Speaker 4: but first Albanizi's rifted with Tanya Plibersak. Cameron Milner will
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Speaker 4: spill the beans. That's after this quick break. Okay, let's
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Speaker 4: get straight into it. Former Queensland Labor State Secretary and
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Speaker 4: former chief of staff to Bill Shott.
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Speaker 3: And Cameron Milner joins me.
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Speaker 4: Now, Cameron, let's turn to this rift reported rift between
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Speaker 4: Albanezi and Pliversak. What inside detail can you tell us
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Speaker 4: from labor circles.
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Speaker 6: Well, there's definitely a rift, and there's been a rift
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Speaker 6: for a long time between the two of them. I
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Speaker 6: mean they're neighboring electrics there, both of them as the Left,
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Speaker 6: but they hate each other's guts.
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Speaker 2: Behind the scenes.
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Speaker 6: And you know, as one Left minister said to me,
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Speaker 6: it all goes back to a lover's tiff, a lovers tiff.
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Speaker 6: I don't subscribe to that theory. I think it's far
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Speaker 6: more simple, far more venal Albo challenged by Tenure. Tenure
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Speaker 6: is a talent. Albo is a dud.
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Speaker 2: Tanya was going to be Deputy Prime Minister under Bill.
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Speaker 6: Shorten and was demoted demoted from Education to Environment by
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Speaker 6: Albert and in fact threatened to be left the ministry altogether.
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Speaker 6: Albou was so threatened by her at that stage. Now
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Speaker 6: only only the threat of her causing a by election
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Speaker 6: in her seat and leaving parliamentll together kept her in
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Speaker 6: the ministry. So I think there's a lot of animosity
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Speaker 6: between the two of them, and a lot of Albo
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Speaker 6: being very paranoid about just how talented Tanure is.
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Speaker 4: I just want to clarify something, just so that our
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Speaker 4: viewers don't get the wrong idea. When you said lover's
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Speaker 4: tiff rift, there's no suggestion at all that they've been
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Speaker 4: in any relationship in recent history, but perhaps dating back
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Speaker 4: decades and decades and decades. They might have been close then,
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Speaker 4: but it's unconfirmed.
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Speaker 2: No, that's right.
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Speaker 6: A senior Left ministry or colleague said that despite the
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Speaker 6: age difference many years ago that had occurred, it may
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Speaker 6: or may not have Matt.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, unconfirmed, but yeah, those are from decades ago. Industry
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Speaker 4: and Minister ed Husick the most senior Muslim politician. He's
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Speaker 4: begged voters not to punish Labor over the Middle East issue.
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Speaker 4: He gave an interview where he basically has accused Israel
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Speaker 4: of all the atrocities in Gaza and Lebanon. No mention
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Speaker 4: of Hamaso Hesbla, no mention of the hostages. God forbid,
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Speaker 4: he should care about the hostages.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Cameron, is this.
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Speaker 4: One sided, biased and a blatant misrepresentation of how this
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Speaker 4: war has unfolded.
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Speaker 2: And it's absolute disgrace.
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Speaker 6: I mean, if ed Husick wants to be the Muslim
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Speaker 6: votes candidate for Chiffley, let him resign and go and
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Speaker 6: be the under.
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Speaker 2: The Muslim votes candidate.
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Speaker 6: Don't disgrace the Labor Party with such appalling, appalling coverage.
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Speaker 6: But to his point about the article today about being
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Speaker 6: worried the Muslim vote might not vote Labor This is
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Speaker 6: like a pyromaniac who started a bushfire and worried because
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Speaker 6: the wind change.
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Speaker 2: It's coming back to Bernie's own house.
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Speaker 6: Ed Husick's right up to his eyeballs in inciting this
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Speaker 6: sort of stuff, just as you did today in the news,
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Speaker 6: with things which are factually incorrect, completely biased and aren't
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Speaker 6: aren't what the Labour Party.
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Speaker 2: Should be saying about Israel.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. It's astonishing that the bipartisan support
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Speaker 4: for Israel has been abandoned. I mean, on this topic,
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Speaker 4: Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke has come out and defended
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Speaker 4: his decision to refuse the former Israeli minister Alet Shaked
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Speaker 4: her visa application. I mean camerin when this government fast
43:27
Speaker 4: tracked the visas for nearly three thousand gardens, and we
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Speaker 4: know because we've reported it, that some of them either
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Speaker 4: express sentiments supporting hermas on social media or have been
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Speaker 4: linked to hermas.
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Speaker 3: I mean, how can he have made this decision?
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Speaker 6: Well, it's a terrible decision, and I think you had
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Speaker 6: a really good interview last week which I listened to
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Speaker 6: with the Israeli former minister. I mean, she's not a
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Speaker 6: security risk. She might have strong views. But goodness me,
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Speaker 6: that's what a democracy is all about. No, the three
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Speaker 6: thousand gardens without security checks who were just led into
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Speaker 6: the country because Tony Burk's got a problem.
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Speaker 2: His own electorate of Watson to hold the vote.
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Speaker 6: There was terrible misjudgment, terrible misjudgment by the Albany's government, but.
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Speaker 2: Made far worse, far worse by.
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Speaker 6: Insulting a senior minister and a woman senior minister from
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Speaker 6: one of our strongest allies, Shari so No an appalling
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Speaker 6: decision and just goes to the virtue signaling that Burke
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Speaker 6: wants out there in the electorate of Watson to try
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Speaker 6: to save his hide.
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Speaker 4: It's all about domestic politics, no question. I mean, Camera milty,
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Speaker 4: you know you must not recognize the Labor Party we're
44:31
Speaker 4: seeing at the moment.
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean I worry for the Labor Party. I
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Speaker 6: think there are some really great people in the Labor Party.
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Speaker 6: I had a Jewish friend who said they were about
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Speaker 6: to resign. I convinced them to stay because I think
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Speaker 6: we need good people in the Labor Party, the Labor
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Speaker 6: Party to get back to being in the center rather
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Speaker 6: than being run by people whose only interest is getting
44:49
Speaker 6: themselves re elected in a Western Sydney electric and everything
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Speaker 6: goes through that prison of their own personal politics to
44:55
Speaker 6: get re elected. The Labor Party is much bigger than
44:57
Speaker 6: any one individual.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Camra mil thank you very much for
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Speaker 3: joining me tonight.
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Speaker 4: Now after the break, we'll look at the integrity of
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Speaker 4: the Teals with Shadow Education Minister Sarah Henderson.
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Speaker 3: That's next. All right, let's bring.
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Speaker 4: In our Shadow Education Minister Sarah Henderson.
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Speaker 3: Sarah, great to see you as always. Look, I want to.
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Speaker 4: Get your reaction to the fact that some of the
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Speaker 4: Teals are endorsing a controversial independent candidate, Cherry.
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Speaker 8: Good evening, great to join you.
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Speaker 18: Yes, this is Alex Dyson in Wannan, who says he's
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Speaker 18: an independent, but he's been endorsed by the Teals and
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Speaker 18: he's had a very sordid history being involved in all
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Speaker 18: sorts of tasteless stunts as an ABC comedian.
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Speaker 8: He worked for Triple Jay as a breakfast host.
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Speaker 18: But most offensive of all, Sharry, he participated in a
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Speaker 18: horrifically offensive holocaust joke. He never apologized for that joke. Frankly,
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Speaker 18: it's discussing. I'm not going to repeat what he said
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Speaker 18: because it's so offensive. His co host Tom Ballard did apologize,
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Speaker 18: the ABC did apologize, but this frankly joker never did.
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Speaker 18: And as for the Teals claiming they raise the standards
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Speaker 18: in the parliament, they're concerned about integrity, why has someone
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Speaker 18: of this color being endorsed. He simply is not fit
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Speaker 18: to represent the people of Wannen and he never even apologized.
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Speaker 18: So that says told you everything you want to know
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Speaker 18: about the Teals.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sarah, I also want to ask you about the
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Speaker 4: Albanezi government their failure to stop the use of the
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Speaker 4: University Students Support and Amenities fee for student protests. You're
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Speaker 4: saying that this is week leadership from Jason Claire. Can
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Speaker 4: you explain to us how this fee works.
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Speaker 18: So the government has mandated that forty percent of this fee,
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Speaker 18: which of course is tens of millions of dollars, will
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Speaker 18: go to student organizations and student led unions. And we
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Speaker 18: put up an amendment in the parliament last week amidst
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Speaker 18: the debicle in the Senate, with of course dozens of
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Speaker 18: bills being shot through the Senate, and that amendment was
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Speaker 18: to stop this money being used for protests.
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Speaker 8: Sherry, the universities.
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Speaker 18: Have been as you know, an absolute hotbed of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 18: I'm so concerned that this money is going to be
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Speaker 18: used to print off posters and to fund anti Semitic
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Speaker 18: hate and incitement.
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Speaker 8: By some of the student unions.
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Speaker 18: And unbelievably, the government refused to support our amendment and
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Speaker 18: that is more incredible weakness of leadership from Jason Clare.
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Speaker 3: Sarah.
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Speaker 4: Just finally, I want to get your reaction as well
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Speaker 4: to the move we saw today where a corporate, a
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Speaker 4: company that owns two hundred pubs in Australia, threatened to
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Speaker 4: boycott Australia Day.
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Speaker 3: They had to backflip on their.
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Speaker 4: Decision, but you know this is part of a trend
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Speaker 4: that we're now seeing a pattern of corporates wanting to
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Speaker 4: virtue signal.
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Speaker 18: Oh absolutely, and I think they've been caught out for that.
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Speaker 8: They've now reversed their position.
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Speaker 18: I want to see Australia Day being celebrated right across
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Speaker 18: this great country.
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Speaker 8: It's a day which brings Australians together.
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Speaker 18: It should not divide, and any corporate or any local
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Speaker 18: council who wants to play politics with Australia Day, I
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Speaker 18: think Australians are coming after them. Australians love Australia Day.
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Speaker 18: It's a very special day. And as I say, any
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Speaker 18: corporate who does what these pubs have done will rue
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Speaker 18: the day that they tried to divide Australians.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's this trend where we're met to
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Speaker 4: feel embarrassed about our national flag instead of feel proud
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Speaker 4: of the fact and grateful for the fact that we
48:43
Speaker 4: live in Australia, even though, as I said at the
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Speaker 4: start of the show, it could be in better shape
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Speaker 4: if it weren't for the current Albanezy government. All right,
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Speaker 4: Sarah Henderson, thank you so much for your time, really
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Speaker 4: appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: That's it for me.
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Speaker 4: I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. Our final two
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Speaker 4: weeks on air before the Christmas break.
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Speaker 3: Don't miss the show in the next two weeks. And
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Speaker 3: up right now, my good mate Pau Murray
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