Latest / The Piano Maven with Jed Distler / Vladimir Ashkenazy's Best "Rach 3?"
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- 0:00This is Jed Distler and welcome to the Piano Maven, your friendly podcast guide to piano
- 0:13recordings. I hope you've had a few moments to decompress from our mini series devoted
- 0:21to the Beethoven sonatas. And I thank those who took the opportunity to subscribe to this
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- 0:52Sometimes we will have special guest luminaries from the piano world to join us. And there
- 0:57are other goodies available to those who take out a paid subscription. You can find my sub
- 1:04stack subscription link in the episode description. I've talked about Rachmaninoff's third piano
- 1:12concerto before on this podcast. In fact, our fourth episode in our first season covered
- 1:19the recording by Alexis Weissenberg and the Chicago Symphony with Georges Pretre conducting
- 1:26the Chicago Symphony. Recently, I was asked to contribute the booklet notes for an upcoming
- 1:33release on Decca that will offer that live performance from the 2022 Van Cliburn competition
- 1:42with pianist Yuchan Lim and the Fort Worth Symphony Orchestra conducted by Marin Alsop.
- 1:49This was that so-called Rock Three heard around the world. All of the jury members were positively
- 1:58gobsmacked by this performance. And the performance certainly played a decisive role in Yuchan
- 2:06Lim winning the gold medal. He had also performed all 12 of Liszt's transcendental etudes in
- 2:13his semifinal round. And that also left jury members rather speechless, not to mention
- 2:20piano-loving viewers around the world, including me. That was an amazing performance. And it
- 2:26has been issued on CD. But the Rachmaninoff Third was the topic of a ToneBass.co video
- 2:36put together by my friend Ben Laudy, who you probably know from his wonderful Chopin
- 2:43podcast and also from his hosting of the Miami Chopin Competition. I'm actually a part of
- 2:51every one of his Chopin podcasts, because at the end of each podcast, you see me recommending
- 2:57various recordings of Chopin's music. But let's get back to the topic of the Rachmaninoff
- 3:03Third concerto, because I'm detouring a lot now. But I want to come back to the topic
- 3:11of Rach Three, because I want to bring up a recording that I just stumbled upon in my
- 3:18collection. And I hadn't heard it in a while. And it was wonderful to reconnect with it.
- 3:24It's a recording that may not be on every piano maven's radar. But I think it's quite
- 3:31special. It features the pianist Vladimir Ashkenazi with Eugene Ormandy conducting the Philadelphia
- 3:39Orchestra. It was recorded for RCA Victor in 1975. Although Ashkenazi was under contract
- 3:49to the DECA label at that time, he did occasionally appear on other labels. For instance, he recorded
- 3:57chamber music with violinist Isaac Perlman for the EMI label. That was probably a reciprocal
- 4:05agreement in exchange for Perlman to record with Ashkenazi on DECA. But Ashkenazi only
- 4:13recorded twice for RCA Victor. My goodness, do you hear the sirens all on the back? I
- 4:20wonder what that is. Anyway, the first time that Vladimir Ashkenazi recorded for RCA Victor
- 4:27was when he and Isaac Perlman recorded the two Prokofiev violin sonatas. And the second
- 4:35and last time that Ashkenazi recorded for RCA was this 1975 recording of the Rachmaninoff
- 4:44Third Concerto with Eugene Ormandy in the Philadelphia Orchestra. I don't know what circumstances
- 4:52led to this recording being made. Had they performed it in concert? I really don't know.
- 4:59But I do remember when this first came out on LP, I was in college and I was kind of
- 5:06surprised. I was thinking, why is there a new Rachmaninoff Third from Ashkenazi and
- 5:12on RCA? Because, I mean, after all, hadn't he just recorded this concerto for DECA with
- 5:21Andre Previn a few years earlier as part of a complete Rachmaninoff Concerto cycle? And
- 5:27furthermore, Ashkenazi had recorded Rock III even earlier for DECA in 1963. And there would
- 5:36be yet a fourth Rock III from Ashkenazi in 1985 on DECA with Bernard Heiting conducting
- 5:46the Concertgebouw Orchestra. So keeping all of that in mind, I would say that on balance,
- 5:54the Ormandy version is arguably the best and, to my mind, the most interesting of the four
- 6:04Ashkenazi commercial recordings of the Rachmaninoff Third Concerto. It's generally an expansive
- 6:11and rhetorical kind of interpretation. It's conceptually similar, if not identical, to
- 6:19the 1958 Van Clyburn recording, which also was for RCA Victor. But the Ormandy Ashkenazi
- 6:28is better realized in every way. Also, the sonics are much more vivid in detail and much
- 6:37more updated, obviously, for 1975. Also, I think that the orchestral support has more
- 6:43backbone compared to the softer-edged Andre Previn recording. I can give you one example,
- 6:51if you want to research this. At the start of that Poco Piumoso section in the second
- 6:57movement intermezzo, in the Andre Previn recording, the solo flute seems kind of lost in space,
- 7:06but under Ormandy's watch, the flute is much more prominent and it aligns perfectly with
- 7:14the pizzicato strings and the piano. And you get a really excellent chamber music perspective
- 7:22here. And I think throughout the Ashkenazi Ormandy recording, you get much more of a
- 7:28sense of how the piano and orchestra interact in this concerto. And I think it's an important
- 7:36factor because the orchestra often carries much of the melodic interest. And I think
- 7:43that's a matter not so much about the placement of microphones than of Ormandy's seasoned
- 7:50experience supporting and responding to soloists. He was one of the best accompanists ever in
- 8:00the history of recordings. And I think that has to do with why the climaxes seem to have
- 8:06more drive and power under Ormandy's watch. And I think that Ashkenazi's pianism has a
- 8:14slight edge over his still excellent finger work in his later Bernard Hightink collaboration,
- 8:23which I think is a little more straightforward and headlong as an interpretation. I think
- 8:29the one with Ormandy is a little more introspective. And incidentally, Ashkenazi plays the heavier
- 8:36and thicker of Rachmaninoff's two first movement cadenza options. He played this heavier cadenza
- 8:45also with Andre Previn and later on with Bernard Hightink. Although his first recording of
- 8:52the Rachmaninoff third from 1963 with Fistullari conducting actually uses that lighter cadenza
- 9:00option. That was the one that Vladimir Horowitz preferred. That was the one that Rachmaninoff
- 9:06himself recorded. And Yuchun Lim also played that lighter cadenza. So did Martha Argerich
- 9:13and Zoltan Koscius for that matter. I think that it's a much better cadenza than the heavier
- 9:19one and it fits in more compositionally. I think musically it's much better. The heavier
- 9:25cadenza I just don't like. But young pianists trotted out all the time and especially in
- 9:33competitions probably because they want to show the jury that they have the chops to
- 9:40play this music. But I think musically it's not a very wise decision. That's just my opinion.
- 9:46I know others will disagree with me. So at any rate, when I'm in the mood for an introspective
- 9:55and poetic and orchestrally oriented Rachmaninoff third concerto rather than the kind of fire
- 10:03and brimstone you get from Horowitz or Argerich or Weissenberg, I go to this Vladimir Ashkenazi
- 10:11Eugene Ormandy recording. And if you haven't yet heard it, really give it a shot. Give
- 10:17it a try because I think you will be pleasantly surprised. This is Jed Disler and you've been
- 10:23listening to the Piano Maven, your friendly podcast guide to piano recordings. I wish
- 10:30you happy listening and I look forward to being with you next time.