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HIST 101: Early Lane Stadium Exploration · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Giving Longhorn. Wow.
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Welcome at the boundary Corner podcast.
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Brian Siegel. How are you man?
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I'm good, buddy. How you doing Curtis?
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We're making it here today, sipping on a brewski.
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Watch The Incredibles with the boys tonight, man.
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I love that movie. You can't go wrong fix our man,
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that movie man. That I think Incredibles 2 might
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have been, it was definitely the first movie I saw with my older
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son and I just love that franchise.
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As I mean, it's just such an awesome movie.
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How about you, what you been up to today?
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Well today, I did my good old work from home routine.
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End up having both of my classes cancelled today due to internet
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connectivity issues. So my afternoon was a little bit
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different than I thought it was going to be, but it was a
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pretty, pretty relaxing, day nothing to complain about.
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Been been checking in on Twitter, making sure nothing's
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been going too crazy for us. I see some little little
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chatter, but nothing nothing too crazy yet.
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We'll see what happens. Definitely, definitely chatter
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right now, I think he's these young High School bucks or
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they're getting antsy. They can't practice.
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They got to work out at home. They're not able to get on their
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visits, you kind of feel for them.
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Because for so many of these guys, this is the time of year
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where there They'd be going to camps and making their visits.
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And you know, and it's all gone right now.
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And for the guys who are coming in, I mean you feel forming one
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way that they don't get that sense of accomplishment with the
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graduation. They don't get to walk across
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the stage and spend the waning last few days of high school
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with their, with their probably friends.
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They've had all their lives. So, you know, definitely stinks,
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but you see these guys out here, still having fun still cutting
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up, so it's awesome to see. That man.
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Yeah, like everybody else they're finding ways to cope
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just like we are it is very true.
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So, you know, today folks, what we're going to be doing, we're
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going to do some run down here of some hokey news over the last
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few days since we last met with you.
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But today, the big thing will be our first poke experiences.
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Yes, sir. All baby can't wait, can't wait.
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But let's start with some of the big news of the of the Few days
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here, Brian. And I got to say, probably the
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biggest thing that's happened for the Hokies positively is man
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Luttrell Novelle for Star wide receiver, 63 195, high power,
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High School, Missouri City, Texas number 307 in the country,
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and 44 offers brines. Yep, dude, that's a third of.
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Do you want football? And it's not like, Like that the
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bottom, some of the biggest offers he had Bama the Buckeyes,
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the Ducks and Boomer Sooners. I mean, he was in the in the
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fall with with with Boomer there.
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And then, you know, things turned sour and you know it that
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I'll take the reward, they're in this case, so good for him, it's
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nice to have him in the fold. It looks like You know, Dee
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Dee's out there, recruiting the Greater Texas area area just as
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hard as bow is so yes, sir, he is and Latrell.
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Seems like he's right on top of it.
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Following with DD & Bowman. Brian, tell me, I mean, you seen
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a little bit of his tape, what do you think of the trail just
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right now? I mean, I think the big thing is
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that, you know, we talked about the last couple times especially
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when we were talking about kind of the roster makeup, we went
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through that episode and kind of looked at everything.
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The thing we look, we We needed was some depth at wide receiver.
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So getting a four-star guy that's been going up against
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Texas talent for 3 years. Now, going into his senior year
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highly rated highly coveted, by a lot of big-time programs.
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I mean, there's nothing to really criticize about this.
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I mean you may not you may not call him quote unquote Elite,
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but in terms of being a high-caliber Target, he's
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definitely as high caliber target as you can really talk
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about. You know, meets you say 307.
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Yes. So we're pretty much talking
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about a top 300 player in the country and wide receivers,
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obviously a different animal because we're talking about
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there's three, two, two, three of those guys on every team that
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could potentially be to be getting a look.
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So yeah. Top the top, 300 wide receivers,
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nothing to scoff at. Yeah, to me.
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He is Elite because of what you just said, with a lot of the way
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offenses are running in high school nowadays.
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There's two, three, four, and even some cases you know, guys
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who are running empties It's not what it was ten years ago, when
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all he's the number 54 wide receiver.
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He's okay, like 54 wide receiver.
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You're saying, if this guy's on a top 20 team, he's going to be
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on the field every play. Oh yes.
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Oh yeah. Brian unfortunately news was
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great earlier in the week, but last night got a little
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Wednesday night, got a little little heartbreaking for us,
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little bit little bit. What you So elephant in the room
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we did not make this UP 844 Tony grinds for the Joker you know
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there was a bunch of Blue Bloods in there and then you know UVA
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and there which we didn't like to see but in some ways I think,
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you know, it's bad because you know that's the that's one of
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the top players in the country, top quarterback in the country
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and, you know, we're not in this top eight on the upside.
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In April or early April not December.
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He was talking about wanting to commit on December 1st.
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I think that was the thing. He had trumpeted back in the
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first part of January, was he wanted to do commit around
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December the 1st. So at least we weren't hanging
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on and committing all these resources to him, through the
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whole process. Only to be left at the altar.
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So if it was going to happen, I'm almost glad it did happen
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now, but it still sucks not being one of the One of the
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eighth, and that was in heavy consideration for him.
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Yep. I'm with you on that.
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Very glad he did. Go ahead, not us include us in
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this topic because of what you mentioned with the resources.
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It does suck. Tony is a hell of a player.
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Hell of an athlete. You know, you know, the creme de
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La Creme of the cornerback class this year.
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Yeah, well I'll be a week. We talked about his versatility
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on the when we were breaking down the 21 class in the state.
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So he's a very Well guys, I was going to fit in good.
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Kind of with what looks like J Hamm is going to in the sperm
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secondary perspective, so that piece of it sucks.
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But you know, like I said, if it had to happen, it's almost
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better it's happening now. So we can go ahead and move
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forward and go to plan B. Yeah.
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Um, so for Tony his family, best of luck to you and all your
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endeavors, man. Yes sir, we did get some other,
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some other good news, at least, you know, in terms of being
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considered in a top eight or top 10.
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Rio we had Latrell mccutchin, top 10 for talking about
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quarterbacks that, you know, we lose out of the Joker, but we've
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got McCutchen, they're putting us in the top 10.
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Looks like he's been tweeting out some some VT love a lot
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recently. So I think Dee Dee and the other
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Latrell of down there. Working on him a little bit.
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So that's good to see. Oh, yeah.
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Oh yeah. I mean, he's a number one corner
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in Texas down in Austin and his offer list same way.
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I in the top ten along with Usual Suspects.
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I mean, got the Trojans. Got go.
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Tigers got the Seminoles and I want to say something about
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Latrell mccutchin last year, and I'm sure you read on this run.
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He had he heard his ACL. So he didn't have a 2019 season.
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Correct. And this is my thought with him.
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He's naughty eighth in the National right now.
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I think he's six or seven feel like six or seven on the corner.
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If I'm wrong my apologies. I think if he comes out and he
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plays this year and he plays at the level, he was his sophomore
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year. He's on a rocket, he's going to
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be a top 50 player because I think right now they're holding
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off because he's got the body type.
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You've got the he's got the show in his sophomore season but now
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you're talking about, he comes back and explodes.
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It's going to be like, oh we should have never doubted this
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kid. Let's rock it up the board and
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kind of the big thing here. You don't see it happened a lot.
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He committed from the time, which usually, when Nick gets
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his guys, next doesn't let him go.
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Yeah. And I mean it looks like some of
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that was probably related to the the junior junior year injury
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but at the same time you know we've got we've gotten on him
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since since he's been on our board who stuck with him.
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I'm hoping that you know, if he ends up rocketing up the board,
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like you're talking about that, you know, some of that loyalty
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and sticking by him, through that tribulation is going to
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potentially pay off in terms of him.
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Seeing us as someone that didn't turn, turn our back on him or
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you. Not even any way during that
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recovery process. Absolutely.
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Now even more good news, man was the California to Virginia Tech
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movement can still out there getting getting word, Anthony
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beavers and his top five along with Arizona state, Florida,
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Atlantic cartoony, Florida A&M University.
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Historically HBCU San Diego State and Sparty, four-star guy.
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And I want to ask you this problem.
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Got a chance to see Anthony Anthony's tape yet, but this
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comparison is Levante David and Levante David is an inside
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linebacker. He's not an outside will so and
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I know he's like, he's only like six, six 1190, but maybe again,
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you don't get to see these guys in person, but I'm wondering if
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this frame, maybe is built a little different to where they
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feel like, hey, this guy can play inside linebacker 225 that
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may be the case. I haven't seen a ton of tape on
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him, but you know, like you were saying making the top five is
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big for this. I mean, I don't think a few
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months ago we would have dreamed that we were be even considered
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a top-five candidate for a four-star out of California.
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So the fact that we're really stretching our recruiting
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footprint out there and you know, testing all the waters and
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see him seeing, who wants to become a hokie.
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I think that's a big thing. It'll be interesting to see how
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that develops. But as far as, as far as talent,
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I mean, you know, you don't become a four-star out to
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California for anything. I mean that's a pretty
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competitive competitive group out there and you're very
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similar to what they have in Texas and Florida.
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You know, I think this might be something if he ends up not
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getting quite the offer sheet that he was looking for some of
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the other guys on, I know what he tweeted out the top-5.
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It was on April Fools and they didn't have USC in their order.
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Yeah, we're decommitted from Yeah yeah so there was no USC,
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no Oregon and people were like April Fools and then he comes
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back and he's like no no. Another one to adani Mitchell
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out of Tennessee. Another pretty, you know, for
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Star wide receiver. Love to see.
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We're in his top five as well. You know, again, we lost out on
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Tony but we're gaining on other guys here, man.
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And it's, it's pretty awesome. To see we, you know, we won't
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state of Virginia. It's great, but it's also to see
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that we have a staff. That's basically saying you have
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Virginia's important. You saw Bo when we lost out, it
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is a priority, Tony was a priority, we didn't get it but
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we're not stuck in this. We're not stuck in a region
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anymore. Yeah.
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We're now saying we're going to go to Texas.
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We're going to we're going to we're going to go to California.
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We're going to offer these kids. Those are The two biggest states
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in this country. There's so many football players
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there and is me and you've discussed and no had some
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conversations other folks guys who were ranked 40, 50 60, in
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those State classes are in basically top tens of just about
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every state and oh yeah, we talked about with with Luttrell
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with the commit, we got on Sunday, you know, he's what 44
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in Texas but that's that's number eight in Virginia by the
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if you use the 24/7 Rate is actually at number 8 in
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Virginia. So that's you know, when you
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look at look at it state by state, you can't really look at
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that. Let's look at the composite
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score and see where they're falling on the, you know, if
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you're using the like top 300. Yeah, we can, we can look at
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that because that's something you compare against, but if
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you're looking at 0 we will use. So and so on the state, yeah,
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that matters, but it does nothing.
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Another thing that we need, we can look at here, you know, this
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Dead period is hurting. Some of the guys, we were trying
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to get on campus, but the other thing that it's doing that
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somewhat in our favor is because we've set up these different
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connections and other states were in a dead period right now.
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So in terms of recruiting recruiting, the state of
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Virginia and recruiting everywhere else is pretty much
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on equal footing, right? But a percent 100% man.
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All right, let me throw it to you.
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Hard hat. Series cap and oh yeah.
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What you think, man? Well, we got what we expected.
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I think we got, we got an energetic Darryl, Tapp, and we
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got a very collected and cerebral tear link and I think
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that's what we're going to talk about going forward is that you
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know, tearling is going to be the guy that's going to be the
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scheme guy. He's in get in there and in
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scheme things up, and Taps going to be the guy that's drilling
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their ass, getting them on the field.
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Getting them in the the weight room, getting them in the film
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room. And I think just the combination
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is great, and I think the other thing that they brought up that
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is great for us. Is that NFL pedigree and the way
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they hammered that home, kind of in the end they're just really,
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really I think was something that we need to focus on and the
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big thing with that is you look at what unc's doing right now.
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You know, you got a head coach, that's got a national
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championship ring, you got a quarterback coach that has the
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Super Bowl ring. Yep.
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That matters to kids with, you know, it might seem trivial but
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it matters to kids. Yeah.
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So we get something like that with with the with Bill and with
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with Darryl in there that's going to start mattering two
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kids. Two hundred percent of a couple
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things that really stuck out to me was the way Darrell and both
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of them talked about, they speak the same language and they have
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the same thought pattern and then Darryl said it the
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defensive scheme that bill was. Yeah, the bill is running is
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what he Learning the soup at the Senior Bowl in.
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What he ran. His whole 12 years.
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So that tells me they're connected, the other piece and
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this was Justin Hamilton. He's like there's one guy in
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that room that you don't want to get in a wrestling match with.
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And the other guy, you respect how smart he is at this line.
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Boom, let me ask you this of all the ones that they were talking
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about, you know, the payers. What was your favorite?
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We have your Batman Robin, right.
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All right. Well, see I wouldn't Murdock and
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ba baracus from The A-Team baby because they They really do kind
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of look like those guys. Hi big guy.
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So sad. Well, first of all, I want to
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get to Saturday night in a second.
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The John laser interview with Coach food was just so thank
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God. They got talked.
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He seem loose, he brought he's in.
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He's in the basement Command Center.
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That's the safe Zone, man. Exactly.
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He was definitely hitting the good points, but just some of
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the kind of the cooler things you brought up was, he's an 80
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movies guy loved hearing that, and he said, it all would almost
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brought a tear to his eye when his daughter was like, can we
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watch Ferris Bueller again? There we go.
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Awesome, and I mean, you can't, you can't go wrong with, with,
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with those 80s movies, man. Right.
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This great man. And were you shocked by his
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selection of the Monopoly piece? Yo, I didn't catch that part.
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What was the selection? What are you thinking?
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What do you think? You said since you missed that
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piece? The iron know that the apps.
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Okay, I'm going with the Iron Man and they are always was the
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race car. I just played it like a young
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age where it's like a race car, I'll win.
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And then like, somebody smokes you and bankrupt you and you
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know, like all do I did like him going in on Some of the grilling
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aspects though talking about having a brisket on and you know
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that's one of the things he does to kind of hobby relax and
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everything like that. So that was kind of cool because
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that's that's a big thing for me.
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I mean that's been a lot of time outside on the deck grilling
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smoking all that type of stuff. So yeah.
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Oh yeah. Well that's that's something
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good that he's you know, kind of say hey I'm just like some of
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you fans out there too. Absolutely.
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And then when he started Saturday night food over oh yeah
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what did I text? Run, you know, you need to ask
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him, right? Yeah, that's another brisket
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turned out. He said it was just average
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risk. If he blames laser.
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Yeah. I'd like to know what John laser
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did did did Lazer. Those a long interview man.
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You forgot to go out there and spread so he didn't put the
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Texas crutch Obama just Saturday in general just influence on
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Twitter it was a breath of fresh air to us as fans.
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Oh yeah he was answering questions.
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You know, some people are like, oh, it's not really him but
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then, mr. Trey Turner decided to debunk
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that real quick with the hey Coke Zero to ten.
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Right me what I did when I came up for the Elite Series day
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Zero, it was like garbage. Yep.
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And then try gives the backstory of he was focused on, you know,
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basketball with that point in time.
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He pretty much went to that to stay on the radar.
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Exactly. And you know, when you, when you
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sort of read kind of what was said after that, like, you know,
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you can feel there's a connection there with him and
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Coach but it was everything. This, his Twitter game lately
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has just been up. I think for us as fans, you
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know, it's were really happy and he claims he was sober.
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I'll believe him. Although he has been in the
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house with three women. For the n22.
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Hey, so again, I seriously think he that basement is his comfort
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zone, man. All of a sudden he's been in
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there for was like, okay, I'm a fire up the Twitter and see what
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happens, and it was awesome and he went because he texted about
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going fishing with his girls and then was about 7:45 eight
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o'clock. He fired that thing up to like,
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12:30 he was answering all sorts of questions, interacting.
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It was it was awesome. And, you know, ask for follows
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and Giving him that stuff and are we assuming that him
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thinking Drake was Prince was a joke?
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Yes, I do. Think the difference.
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We hope so. Yeah, I mean he's close to our
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age, that's what. Yeah, Hearts about to head
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coach. I think Justin's 41 and I'm 36,
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you're 35. We're pretty much in that same
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generational, thanks, I think, he knows who it is.
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I think he was just messing with People.
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So so yeah and then of course upon the Latrell Neville
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commitment the Steven Naismith gifts.
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Yeah. With the that would call real
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girls like oh really Maybe just his wife being around
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his kids and wife and maybe that's why he's coming out
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because normally I'm getting people talk about him, he seems
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like he's failing. He goes to church with them.
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He's very, very family-oriented. So, when he goes home, I'm
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wondering, it's like, I've got to put the phone down.
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I need to spend time with my children, chat with my wife, you
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know, yeah, I could sit here on Twitter all day and play around,
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but but now he's getting that opportunity and it's been really
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cool to see, man. I mean, I'll say this just
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Looking at everything. It looks like he's a guy that
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compartmentalizes things very well.
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Yeah, you know, he he manages it and then he puts it to the side
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and when he's doing one thing, he's not doing another and then
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they'll die back into that when it's time.
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So I think that's why maybe he comes off as, you know, maybe
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his personality isn't what you think it is because he's not
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bringing everything in all at once.
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He's focused on. Okay.
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Well, It's post-game interview. So here's my post game interview
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that I did, then, you know, things like that.
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And I think, you know, obviously there are going to be those
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moments where he's 100% himself, but that may be reserved for his
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players and his family and not for the general public, although
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we have seen crazy insane for you and some, some one of the
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Twitter guys brought it up was like, what exactly did you say
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to the refs on the card game game back in 16 they got you a
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personal foul. It's not suitable for print.
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I remember when that because we hadn't really seen the a lot of
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emotion from, but when we saw that say, okay, this kind of set
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a fire it up, you always want to say is if this was like a bar
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fight, I think he would have punched the rep in the face.
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Oh yeah. Accuracy accurate.
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So folks we're going to move on and we're going to go to some of
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our first hokey experiences and Brawn leadoff man.
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Cuz you You got me by a year buddy, Brian.
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Got you by a year and I got you on some I guess maybe you've got
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the you've got the saddest story.
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I've got the weirdest ones, so cute.
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We'll start with the more straightforward one.
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So that the actual first time set foot in Tulane stadium was
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2002 Rutgers. All right give me the backstory.
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How'd you get all right. Backstory backstory so your boy.
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Was not on the Travel Squad. His first year Hammond Sydney
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full disclosure. Yep, I know that's going to
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sadden everyone. They thought I was some sort of
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baller, I did start but not my freshman year.
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So with so when the team was away, your boy was at home and I
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happen to have a good buddy up in Blacksburg the said, hey, I
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got you a ticket. Let's roll as Matt wasn't met
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more, not more. So get to Blacksburg my boy
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lives in lately. Hall, he's a Once I get we get
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to Lee Hall, we're hanging out, we go, I forget where we went.
25:05
We went to get a bite of food and we came back and he realized
25:07
he forgot his hokey past. He's like, I know a secret,
25:10
though. It's like Lee Hall door across
25:15
from the basketball practice facility.
25:18
If you push it in and then Jerk it out real quick.
25:21
She'll come open even though it's locked.
25:23
Okay, so we got in. This is going to come to this.
25:27
There's a theme here. That's very good.
25:29
Important for later consideration for your second
25:32
experience, you know? And then we had another buddy,
25:36
actually a cousin of mine named Jeff Hudson.
25:39
He had an apartment. So we went over to his place
25:41
later and did some pre-gaming and then hit up the tailgate
25:45
seen for a little bit just before we went into the game.
25:47
All right, well, hold on. Where'd you tailgate first
25:50
place? Oh, man.
25:52
I'm trying to remember where we were tailgating.
25:54
You did you like, was it like kicking Hill Duck?
25:56
Pond. It was, what was that fun?
26:02
And so little duck pond that we head to the stadium.
26:06
So as for the game itself, it was one of those games.
26:09
Those classic hokey games were. We're way better than the
26:12
opponent but this game is way closer than it should be
26:15
freaking Rutgers. Yeah.
26:17
But the big plays, I don't know if anybody remembers this but
26:23
the Kevin Jones reverse field touchdown.
26:26
It's one of the Highlight, the one of the first big Kevin Jones
26:30
highlights. And you want to remember this
26:32
that, that was the end of it. Stuck with me most because I was
26:37
like, I'd never seen a running back, do something like that
26:40
because, you know, he reversed field and Escape then wound back
26:44
around to the middle of the field and hit the sidelines.
26:46
Again then was back in the middle of the field for the
26:48
touchdown. Then we had the Angelo Hall, had
26:51
a punt return late in the game to kind of close things out.
26:55
But the game kind of was slow because we had a lot of mistakes
26:58
and a couple turnovers But the big thing is in the thing that
27:03
stood out and we have talked about this early, Lee Suggs had
27:06
himself a game. He did you played against that
27:09
guy, so even more fitting for you buddy?
27:11
Yes he did. Yeah, so he was just under 200
27:14
yards, rushing KJ, had another like 130.
27:19
Oh my God, and then emo had about 25.
27:22
So we had 350 combined, rushing yards between slugs, KJ and emo.
27:27
I love emo man, but you remember that year?
27:29
That was The Untouchables you Yes.
27:32
I mean did I get chills thinking about that?
27:34
Those guys were so damn, good, man.
27:36
So damn good Suggs. Just out there, just rolling
27:41
over people and then once he got past them running away from
27:43
people and KJ, just, I mean a man, he just so electric on the
27:48
field, just hard to hard to really compare to anybody else
27:52
and he KJ was just so electric out there.
27:54
Nice. All right.
27:56
What about you, man? What was your first?
27:58
Give us your first run down. Let's start with the backstory.
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Hi. Let's go back.
28:01
Get the years 2003. 2007, 17 years ago.
28:07
Let's let's do that. And Shake our heads.
28:10
Remember Travis own. Oh yeah.
28:12
Travis on. I had ran into him like the
28:14
weekend before he was moving up the going back to Tech and he
28:17
said, hey do come up Labor Day weekend, we'll find you a
28:19
ticket. Will go the game, awesome, man.
28:22
You know, I went ahead got off from work for the whole weekend
28:25
except Monday of Labor Day weekend.
28:29
I'm in Community College at that.
28:31
At point in time. So I go to my classes and about
28:35
my thing, my last class ended at 11:00.
28:38
So I get in the truck head back to so Bo my parents know I'm
28:43
leaving, but I got to go pack my bags and stuff, and I gotta get
28:46
in touch with Travis, so he knows I'm coming.
28:48
Well, I call traps No answer. I called him again.
28:57
No answer. This is the now I've got a
28:59
cellphone at this point so we're, you know, we're not that
29:01
aging folks. Yeah, whatever he wanted.
29:06
He's up in school, you probably get smashed.
29:08
Last night, I'll go home. Get on Iron Man's team and get
29:11
his address and tell him. I'm awake go home.
29:15
And remember the old feed I am when it was black.
29:18
It was like Oh, that's not good. Yeah, yeah, go home.
29:23
He's not there. It's been like 26 hours like,
29:29
since he was at his computer. Where are you being mean?
29:31
Oh, my God. Now, of course, I know lots of
29:36
guys in Blacksburg, I mean, you know, Wilkerson Hudson, your
29:41
cousin but I'm sitting here, I'm like, crap.
29:45
And I just saw A ping Matt Hastings.
29:50
Hey yo. Matt, we doing man.
29:51
Things like I do just drink the beer.
29:53
I do. You seen Travis on?
29:55
I know you guys are up to he's like now it's like damn it.
29:59
I'm like dude I'm supposed to come up and crash with him.
30:01
This weekend Go the game party. He's like dude bleep him.
30:04
Here's my address, get your ass in your truck and come, so I'm
30:08
like screw it. Love, Matt went up there.
30:12
He was living at Fox Ridge at the point in time.
30:15
That's Ridge. Fox Ridge.
30:17
With him on Friday night, catch up with Wilkerson on Saturday
30:21
and stayed with him. We roam because that it was
30:25
going to sound really weird folks.
30:26
But that first game I went to was on Labor Day.
30:29
Sunday, as A330 kick. So partied.
30:33
All weekend. Hang out with a boy Brian.
30:35
Hang out with Matt. Lot of the other boys from back
30:37
home. Get house all around.
30:38
Five Trish have a blast wake up game day tailgate down at prices
30:44
for I don't get to get smashed though.
30:47
No, because I have to drive back home after the game.
31:05
I don't know, blares Mary name. Now had a great time game was
31:10
August, 31st, 2003 against UCF man.
31:15
And dude, I forgotten. Pieces of this game.
31:18
So I went back hokey tape. Shoutout, we wish you were still
31:22
up. It was screw those guys who got
31:25
you kicked off, man. I hate them.
31:29
But dude the amount of Talent on the team and I won't.
31:33
You start going through names and you're going to be like yep.
31:36
So Brian Randall. Marcus Vick did Jones Humes.
31:40
Jake Grove. Got to get you out while I'm in
31:43
love. Jeff, King Will Montgomery.
31:45
Wilfred coach, Justin Hamilton catching a wide receiver at
31:49
wide. Receiver catching a touchdown,
31:52
the next season, he's at running back.
31:54
So you how to develop he is on the defense offense and special
31:58
teams. The hall was doing everything
32:00
that day. He caught a couple passes punt
32:03
return and we'll throw some just this is like the this the love
32:06
name's Daryl. Cat has his first game at Tech
32:10
as Taps first. Omnitech men Nathaniel DB cold
32:15
is cold, the Lewis Brothers Vegas Robinson Jimmy Williams
32:20
when I was watching this game and the pieces of it it was just
32:23
like this is awesome and you know the first live touchdown.
32:29
I got to see the here Skipper. Fire and Tech trying to be
32:33
played with Kevin Jones for the touchdown run and there we go.
32:40
And You have some invalid pretty close games to.
32:45
It's kind of like you're going to take one up big 28 knots,
32:47
then UCF didn't score 21 in a row Tech didn't score 21 in a
32:52
row to put it Out Of Reach and one 4928 Bryan Randall toward up
32:59
markets through a TD defense plate, great but I didn't
33:02
realize how much talent you see. I've had that Brandon Marshall
33:06
Atari big be Matt Prater. I mean, that's that's cause it's
33:12
the significant time in the league.
33:13
And, yeah, that was my first experience first time.
33:17
I jumped. It was unbelievable.
33:22
You know, I toast Wilkinson and I don't think I can't remember
33:25
ever saw Travis that weekend, but I don't know.
33:29
Did you ever did you ever talk to him later?
33:31
We like what the hell? I did and basically he went on a
33:33
bender for like three days. Okay.
33:37
So he was he was outside his For several days.
33:46
He crashed with him a couple times so he made it up to in a
33:52
nice way. All right.
33:53
So Brian, we're doing multiple experiences.
33:56
So what is experience? Number two for you?
34:01
That's going to be Commonwealth cups.
34:03
Same hero to in laying there were snow flurries in the second
34:10
half which I think is documented the last time.
34:14
There's been snowed during a game.
34:15
Yes, it was, it was barely there but it was it was blowing
34:21
sideways. That was a windy day.
34:24
So I actually wrote up with a friend of mine from high school,
34:28
Tyler Abbott and my step-brother, For Wilkerson, we
34:33
actually got tickets last minute apparently.
34:37
Justin's mom had them for some sort of client event that got
34:42
canceled so she just passed them on to us.
34:46
I was like sure why not? But as we all know, it's
34:50
Thanksgiving. So not as many people on campus
34:55
as their normal would be. So I coordinated with again, my
34:59
cousin, Jeff Hudson. Like yeah, I'll be up there so
35:03
you can crash at my place. You guys can crash at my place.
35:06
Looks like perfect. You know I wasn't planning on
35:08
getting like super trashed afterwards but I don't know.
35:12
I didn't really get trashed with Tyler very much.
35:14
So I wasn't sure how that was going to work but anyway anyway
35:19
that's a different different story.
35:20
Not not really pertinent right now so I was like yeah, just a
35:24
place to lay my head, you know whatever.
35:27
So you get to the game we are in South.
35:31
South Endzone. Okay, yeah, decent seats are
35:36
great seats. It's unlikely, but that's
35:39
exactly. And the game, you know, tight
35:43
throughout the big play, the game was the J, Hamm plus r, and
35:47
who scooped it? Oh, that's a detached scoop and
35:51
score there. Sir.
35:52
That's DTaP scoop obvious, and it's crazy to think those guys
35:55
are on the staff down room. Yeah.
35:58
So J, Hamm had the plum blog DTaP scoop and score for the
36:01
touchdown. Final score, 20 19, again last
36:05
game that there was actually documented snow during the game,
36:09
but here's where things get interesting for me.
36:13
And my two compatriots text. My cousin after the game.
36:18
Hey man, cool. If we come over and he texts
36:23
back. Yeah, well, you, Kiki calls me
36:25
back at this point. What we weren't weird text, but
36:27
out, he, he got back to the, yeah.
36:29
I wasn't able to get back up there, huh?
36:32
What this have been something great to know several hours ago,
36:39
several hours. So, you know, we're kind of in
36:43
no-man's land because none of us felt like driving back but at
36:47
the same time, none of us had a place to go.
36:52
So we were also 18, so none of us really wanted to get a hotel
36:59
room because we were all kind of for college broke college kids.
37:05
So, we made the Strategic decision.
37:08
Well, I did in this case because I was the one that had the
37:11
golden ticket and that golden ticket was I knew how to get
37:16
into Lee home. So, I did the push-pull trick
37:21
worked like a charm. Walked up to the second floor.
37:24
Grabbed a couple Sofas in the common room, crash for the
37:28
night. Woke up at about 7:00, 8:00 in
37:31
the morning, drove back on. Now that is that that's not the
37:36
last of the great Lee Hall stories, but the third one has
37:39
nothing really to do with football first date.
37:44
Picking up my wife driving the Blacksburg.
37:48
She says she lives in Lis home, she's like I was like hey I'm
37:52
almost there. She was like I'll come down to
37:54
let you know it's like don't worry about it.
37:56
I know how to get to your dorm creeper.
37:59
Somehow she still went on this date with me and somehow later
38:02
she married me and you Yeah, but Lee Hall has been good to me
38:12
every time we walk by every time we've won up, you always point
38:15
you like get in right there or at least I could do.
38:20
So, Curtis you got a what I would call a heartbreaking story
38:23
from a phantom effect and you wanted to share for your second.
38:26
Okay, sighs, well one really experience but it's a story,
38:30
great homie a moment. And a couple weeks before the
38:38
mind again, Ron, Wilkerson want to guide.
38:42
We've known forever man. Came here.
38:44
If you gave me a call or send me a message, only ol, he said
38:49
Curtis, I've got a ticket to the Miami came in the North End
38:54
Zone. The guy's got to be out of town
38:56
wedding family, something he wants, 65 bucks for it.
38:59
So somewhere in there, a reasonable price.
39:04
And I'm like get that bleeping ticket.
39:06
I'm coming. Yes, I'm so jacked now, the
39:10
Wynwood I was sales, everybody remember.
39:12
No three were unbeaten. Freakin screwed the pooch
39:15
against West Virginia, the week before, but still that game was
39:19
tight. It was Saturday night, it was on
39:22
ESPN place was jacked, but I didn't get to see it.
39:29
Because, as I'm sitting there, all happy, tell my folks, hey,
39:33
I'm going to Blacksburg this weekend call into work.
39:36
Hey, I'm not coming into work. I need to be off this week.
39:41
Well, Ryan, you've heard the story and it's sad.
39:45
Oops, it is. The car insurance bill came for
39:48
the truck. My mom walks into my room, hey
39:52
you need to pay this. I look at the bill.
39:56
I look at my bank account. and needless to say, You show Curtis
40:04
didn't get to go to the tech, Miami game of 2003.
40:10
I watched it at home because I was literally broke after I
40:13
wrote that, check for my car insurance, it was an amazing
40:17
experience. But one of the sad things is of
40:19
that crowd, that night was electric, that crowd watching it
40:25
at home. You that was one of those games.
40:29
And then, all the plays that happened with you, No, give it
40:32
to me Rosco and you know, just blowing the doors off the
40:36
minute, third quarter. I admit I believe I cried that
40:41
night because I know, not just in South Endzone, the North End
40:51
Zone, the creme, de La Creme of Sikhs.
40:54
For Tech game for when we were in that age in my 20s, so yeah.
41:05
I think that would have been worth taking the dean up, man.
41:08
I didn't know much better. I'm just saying that might have
41:12
been worth it. Oh yeah, but you know, the
41:15
issues, my parents were really good friends with the Farm
41:18
Bureau agent. If I hadn't paid that a lot of
41:20
been a out of been given hell yeah, it is what it is.
41:26
All right? So guys, this week, we're not
41:30
really doing a poll but we're going to do some open-ended.
41:34
Questions your first time in Lane Stadium who is that first
41:39
player? That just pop to you Braun.
41:45
Go ahead with yours from that game at Rutgers.
41:47
And I think it's in a way for you.
41:49
It's probably a little more, a little more personal.
41:56
Yeah. So I'm going to I'm going to
41:59
preface this with, I'm probably going to give some love to see
42:01
people here, but I'm going to go with Lee Suggs as the
42:05
sentimental pick here. I was in high school, we played
42:10
against them when he when he was still still in high school and I
42:13
do man just watching him was kind of like it's like oh that's
42:21
what a running back can be like because you know we didn't I
42:24
didn't really experience that up until that point.
42:25
I was like, okay well, That's what it is.
42:27
I got a buddy that got truck by Suggs.
42:30
Jackie Rogers will talk about it to this day.
42:33
Jesse Roger still talks about to this day.
42:35
Jesse Rogers, one of those, like, undersized Scrappy guys
42:38
that played on both sides of the line and, you know, Subs was
42:43
coming through the hole and he decided.
42:45
All right, I'm going to stick my head in here and see what I can
42:47
do. And he landed flat on his back
42:50
and lie kept on going. So, yeah.
42:55
You know, big shout-out to Lee Suggs.
42:57
I mean he had a huge game was 193 yards, rushing two
43:01
touchdowns and just every time he touched the ball looks like
43:05
he gained five or six yards minimum, I mean, and then he was
43:09
going to be, he broke a couple 20 yarders broke a couple 30
43:11
yarders, I mean he was just up and down the field.
43:14
I know KJ had probably the most electric play of that game but I
43:19
came away a big still Lee Suggs believer because of just how
43:24
dominant he was from start to finish.
43:26
In this and another sentimental, shout out for that game is to
43:31
Bryan, Randall, because at the time, not only being a tech fan,
43:36
but my already down the hall from me and him to Sydney was
43:39
Brandon, Randall Brian's older brother stretch for for him and
43:45
Sidney for, for a few years there.
43:47
So, it was fun, you know, having that little tie in that, you
43:50
know, not everybody knew about. So it was kind of cool when
43:54
always been a big, big Brian. No fan.
43:58
Just think you know he was a he was a guy that probably somewhat
44:01
underrated in terms of the The Glory Days of Virginia Tech from
44:06
a quarterback perspective. So you know Vic and in tie rod
44:10
get the get the most loved and Logan gets a lot of love I think
44:13
sometimes we forget about Brian so that's my two.
44:17
What about you? But um the first one you
44:19
mentioned in with that run but Kevin Jones, his the first play
44:25
I ever saw Was not a Kevin Jones play.
44:28
His was the second. The first was, does geese like
44:32
full big 43 to fullback a little catching will pass beer and but
44:36
watching some of his jump cuts and just again when I watch that
44:41
game through hokey tapes and yeah I kind of went back and
44:43
said he was that good. And Kevin Jones was that good in
44:47
the NFL. Kevin Jones doesn't get that
44:49
list. Frank spring.
44:51
My opinion on him is of the 2000-2010.
44:56
Is he would have been considered one of the best running backs.
45:00
Now, the other guy and this is just straight up just because of
45:05
who he was, it's the hall D whole plate, everything that
45:09
game, he caught two passes for 40 yards.
45:11
He was always a ballroom defense.
45:13
He was legitimately one of the best punt returners in college
45:17
football. History, not just in Virginia
45:18
Tech History college football, history and just to see him.
45:22
He was out there so much. Those are my two guys.
45:26
Now, you know fans, but will ask you guys to do, if you've got
45:30
one, if you've got to put them out there and tell us who was
45:35
that first player. That when you saw them, that
45:38
first game you went to, was it like, oh boy, this is different.
45:43
All right. Brian, have we missed anything.
45:45
Any breaking Twitter news while you sat here and, you know,
45:51
relive, some below, see, anything popping up for me.
45:53
I don't see anything popping up, so I think we're good to go.
45:56
I don't think. We've had anything anything that
45:58
we need to break right now. I'll definitely say hello.
46:01
But You know, tomorrow is another day.
46:05
So I think I think we got some good news coming down the
46:07
future. So I mean, you feel like there's
46:09
some momentum and I'm with you. So, hopefully the next time we
46:12
do this, we're talking about three four, five, six commits
46:16
where, which slight whoa, what happened.
46:20
So let's do this man. This is going to wrap up this
46:24
episode of The Boundary Corner podcast.
46:27
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