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  Speaker 2: How about this, Cowboys?
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  Speaker 3: Go, Cowboys!
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  Speaker 1: This is Cowboys Storyline, presented by Gillette, the official shave
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  Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. Here's Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Cowboys Storyline presented by Gillette. It's Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: October 28th. Cowboys are 3-4 on this not-so-young season anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the time to move, right? What do
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  Speaker 2: they say in golf on Saturday of a major? They're like,
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  Speaker 2: it's moving day. This is the time things start to
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  Speaker 2: really happen. Well, this is like moving month, even though
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  Speaker 2: we haven't turned to November 1st game. of November will
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  Speaker 2: be this next one against the Cardinals. So November's got
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  Speaker 2: to be the time where you move. I got some
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  Speaker 2: interesting stats that I want to throw out as the
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  Speaker 2: show goes on. But 888-855-2297 is our number to call.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Cardinals, talk about the Eagles, talk
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  Speaker 2: about whatever you want. This is that day where we're
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  Speaker 2: still kind of, you know, still two days removed from
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  Speaker 2: the game and a few more to go before we
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  Speaker 2: play The Cardinals. So let's see what you guys have
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  Speaker 2: on your mind. Irene is first. Irene, what's up?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: Good.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 6: Good, good.
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  Speaker 4: So JR, I know he's having a surgery today, so
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  Speaker 4: I just wanted to mention that, shout him out, praying
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  Speaker 4: for him and his family. I know that recovery is
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  Speaker 4: not always fun, so hopefully they're all good through that.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely.
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  Speaker 4: So getting that out of the way, we love them.
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  Speaker 4: Back to football. Okay, we got it. We did what
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  Speaker 4: we needed to do. I thought we'd win closer than that,
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  Speaker 4: and they just kept grinding, right?
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 4: At first, I was like, oh, boy.
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  Speaker 2: This is rough.
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  Speaker 4: And then they settled in. They settled in, and that
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  Speaker 4: seems to be a trend with the defense. I don't
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  Speaker 4: really get that, but, I mean, I'm cool with that.
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  Speaker 4: If they want to be better in the second half,
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  Speaker 4: so long as it doesn't get out of hand and
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  Speaker 4: the offense keeps... producing, it's a problem when the offense
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  Speaker 4: is also asleep right. We'll see. They're growing. I actually
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  Speaker 4: watched the Cardinals game. My mom's actually a Broncos fan.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how, but she is. There's opportunities for sacks.
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  Speaker 4: I know we're not the Broncos defense, so that's not
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  Speaker 4: really our forte, but their offensive line looks pretty suspect.
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  Speaker 4: I'm hoping we trend. We got two this week, so
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  Speaker 4: hopefully we can build on that.
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  Speaker 3: And then my.
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  Speaker 4: Biggest concern, maybe if you can talk about that as
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  Speaker 4: their running game, even without Jeremiah love, it seems pretty effective. So, um,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you could just talk on that,
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  Speaker 4: your thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Irene, thanks for the call. And, and, um, definitely, um,
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  Speaker 2: good to bring up, uh, Jr. So thoughts for, uh,
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  Speaker 2: definitely for him. Um, but, um, Going back to what
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  Speaker 2: you said about the Cardinal game, running game, Barkley leaves
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  Speaker 2: the first couple of runs in the game. He just
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  Speaker 2: kind of takes off. But then he's banged up and
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  Speaker 2: Damian Pierce comes in, and it's really not much of
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  Speaker 2: a difference. Pierce was tough to bring down, too, as
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching. I'm watching both screens. I'm seeing the NFL
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  Speaker 2: network and they're talking about all these trades that the
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  Speaker 2: Colts made. And I'm just like, you know what, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to go ahead and trade Jonathan Taylor, that'd
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  Speaker 2: be fine too. No, it'd probably be somebody that we
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  Speaker 2: are going to face, but it's still like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like when I saw Nelson getting traded to Seattle, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, that, that definitely helps them.
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  Speaker 2: But this game against the Colts coming up is one that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Cowboys should be able to, to win that. Now,
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they will. And I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 2: look ahead. I'm just saying these are some of these
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  Speaker 2: things that have happened. And the Cardinals did it too
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  Speaker 2: a couple weeks earlier with Marvin Harrison Jr., a guy
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  Speaker 2: that went off on them last year. So we're starting
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  Speaker 2: to see that. These teams ahead of the Cowboys are
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  Speaker 2: actually trading some of their players. So maybe that's making
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  Speaker 2: it easier for them. I don't know. I was with you, though, Irene,
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  Speaker 2: on slow start. I mean, when the Cowboys gave a
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  Speaker 2: touchdown on the first drive, I was like, You've got
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  Speaker 2: to be kidding me. Like, this is how this game
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  Speaker 2: is going to be. First two drives, really. But they
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  Speaker 2: settled down. They figured out a way to lock in.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Robbie in Cocoa Beach.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you and Irene already stole some of my thunder,
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  Speaker 5: but I definitely reiterate that those first two drives, listening
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  Speaker 5: to or watching them, you know, third and seven, third
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  Speaker 5: and eight, and then first down, first down. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: here we go again. yeah but our run game kept
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  Speaker 5: going and we kept chugging along in the first half
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  Speaker 5: it didn't look great but we kept at it even
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  Speaker 5: with the penalties and the second half demo showed up
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  Speaker 5: on one stop here one stop there and two three
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  Speaker 5: and outs in the game that's i was pretty impressed
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  Speaker 5: yeah and the four now too not to count that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no it was it was a fun game for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah it was a fun game to watch yeah without
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  Speaker 5: and uh That's it, man. I just wanted to say
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  Speaker 5: that RJ and I have loved watching it. We were
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  Speaker 5: screaming at the screen. We both took Tuesday off, him
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  Speaker 5: from school, me from work, so we could stay up
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  Speaker 5: late and watch it because we're on the East Coast
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  Speaker 5: and pretty dang late when it ends. But still, a
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  Speaker 5: great game. We had a great time, Nick. I know
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  Speaker 5: it's got to be easier to listen to us fans
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  Speaker 5: talk when we get a win. Let's just hope we
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  Speaker 5: can keep it up.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Got to keep it up. Got to keep it going.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing's all cured and fixed about this team. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when there's a wounded team out there that is not
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  Speaker 2: at 100%, you know, you got to go out there
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  Speaker 2: and take care of business and win. And by the
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  Speaker 2: end of the game, 17-point win on the road, doesn't
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  Speaker 2: matter who it is. I mean, that wasn't the line.
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  Speaker 2: That's never been the line of any– odds makers, games,
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. There might be one or two,
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  Speaker 2: but for the most part, it's not. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: put an asterisk by this. I don't feel sorry for
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  Speaker 2: anybody or anything like that. The Cowboys go out and
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  Speaker 2: win the game. No one feels sorry for them when
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  Speaker 2: it happens. And you don't have to give up 38 points.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's another thing, too. Their offense is definitely
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  Speaker 2: in bad shape, but Eagles. But their defense... Those guys
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  Speaker 2: are out there. Those are some of the highest paid
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  Speaker 2: defensive players in the NFL. And they didn't look like it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Cowboys kind of steamrolled them. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's really no excuse for that. And I thought that
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  Speaker 2: part was very impressive. By the way, the Cowboys ran
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  Speaker 2: the ball and just kind of ran it at will.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Josh in Chicago.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, man, let's talk about running the ball. Number 77
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  Speaker 9: reporting in as eligible.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: It faked out the ref. Did you see the ref
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  Speaker 2: called it? Because it was kind of weird because Spanford
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  Speaker 2: was on the outside of the right tackle steal, and
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  Speaker 2: then on the outside of him was Roderick Jones. And
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  Speaker 2: the ref immediately threw a flag and almost wiped out
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  Speaker 2: a 17-yard run until they talked it over and said, no,
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  Speaker 2: he reported out. He's a tight end at that point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they did that. And you know what else I
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  Speaker 2: like about it, Josh, is that it kind of gets
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  Speaker 2: him in the flow of the game a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Your swing tackle, if he has to play knock on wood,
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  Speaker 2: he's kind of out there a little bit. So I
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  Speaker 2: kind of like that.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't TJ Bass like I wanted, right?
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  Speaker 9: And I think it was more of a 12 personnel
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  Speaker 9: look than a 22 personnel look. But what I really
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  Speaker 9: loved about it was the fact that, like you said,
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  Speaker 9: it gets him involved. I mean, we spent a third-round
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  Speaker 9: pick on this guy, so play him, right? And this
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  Speaker 9: is the mismatch that I've been talking about for a
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  Speaker 9: couple weeks. You add him on the line, and what
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  Speaker 9: I really loved is they didn't just run to the
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  Speaker 9: right side a lot when they did that. They ran
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  Speaker 9: up the middle. They ran to the left side. They
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  Speaker 9: ran all over. So that's going to keep Arizona honest
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  Speaker 9: and other teams looking forward. Now start passing out of
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  Speaker 9: that set as well. And, oh, my gosh, man, that's
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  Speaker 9: what you open up– with that's how you start running
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  Speaker 9: the ball and passing and keeping cd and gp on
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  Speaker 9: the field at the same time so i loved it
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  Speaker 9: yeah i thought that that was one of the best
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  Speaker 9: things that schottenheimer was doing as a play.
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  Speaker 2: Caller yeah and that and now i think that's one
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  Speaker 2: where you kind of give a little bit of credit
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  Speaker 2: to the entire coaching staff on that that specific thing
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  Speaker 2: because that's that's what your offensive coordinator i think clayton
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  Speaker 2: adams is going to help with and your And your
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  Speaker 2: offensive line coach, Connor Riley, as far as like those alignments,
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  Speaker 2: let's do this. Let's put, you know, tackle eligible plays
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  Speaker 2: and put, you know, Broderick Jones in right side. We
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  Speaker 2: can run some to the left, you know, depending on
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  Speaker 2: how they handle it. So the structure of what they
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  Speaker 2: did running the ball, I think, is more than just
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  Speaker 2: play calling. I think it's kind of how they prepared
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  Speaker 2: throughout the week for that.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 9: With that being said, I don't know how many times
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  Speaker 9: Broderick Jones checked in, but I know Schoonmaker only played
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  Speaker 9: like 11 snaps. I'm wondering if we can keep seeing
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  Speaker 9: more of this look with Jones lining up there as
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  Speaker 9: tight end and what you think about that going into
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  Speaker 9: the future and using Schoonmaker less or even when other
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  Speaker 9: people come back, what kind of happens with Schoonmaker.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks, man.
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  Speaker 9: Talk to you soon.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, I mean, I still think as the third
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  Speaker 2: tight end, I think he kind of has that role.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's going to be active. Just because from
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  Speaker 2: a depth standpoint, usually you keep three, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: really have an issue with him. This is his last
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  Speaker 2: year of his contract. I don't really foresee him.
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  Speaker 2: Being here next year unless things change, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily see that. I like seeing that they had Lipke
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  Speaker 2: in there. It felt like a little bit more. It
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  Speaker 2: just looked like they had a little extra time. They
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  Speaker 2: only had the extra day in the Monday night game,
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  Speaker 2: but it just kind of felt like they did a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more with it, saw some new looks, and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just even the two-point conversion play. You know,
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  Speaker 2: with Dak, that's not one that we had seen, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think, this year. And whether or not that was
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  Speaker 2: designed or it looked designed, but he might have just
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  Speaker 2: been kind of waiting to see if it was going
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  Speaker 2: to open up for him. Either way, we saw some
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  Speaker 2: different looks, different things in that game. All right. I'm
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  Speaker 2: A in Napa, California.
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  Speaker 8: I'm A.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, what's up, Nick? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 8: How are you?
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  Speaker 7: I'm great, man. Thanks for asking. Obviously doing much better
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  Speaker 7: after a Cowboys victory. Definitely against the Eagles, Eagles week.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't get a chance to call in last week.
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  Speaker 7: It was tough getting through, but glad I'm through now. Man,
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  Speaker 7: I just wanted to touch on, you know, I think
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  Speaker 7: it was something we talked about kind of like all
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  Speaker 7: during the offseason and after the draft is just– If
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  Speaker 7: the defense just gets a little bit better, you know,
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  Speaker 7: we were talking about them, you know, maybe being somewhere
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  Speaker 7: in the halfway point, you know, 15, 16, 17, that
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  Speaker 7: would be awesome. But, I mean, a lot of us
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  Speaker 7: were just even talking, you know, in the low 20s. Man,
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  Speaker 7: if we could get in the low 20s and get
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  Speaker 7: a couple stops, you know, things would change. And I
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  Speaker 7: think that this last week or Monday's game was– exactly
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  Speaker 7: what we've been looking for as storyliners or fans like
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  Speaker 7: all season we're been asking and looking for shoddy to
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  Speaker 7: run the ball and you know um you know he
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  Speaker 7: finally went with it and you know the defense wasn't
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  Speaker 7: great they weren't perfect but they made stops and for
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  Speaker 7: us to score was it three times in a row
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  Speaker 7: or 18 points in a row or whatever down the
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  Speaker 7: stretch like That was the game-sealer. It doesn't matter how
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  Speaker 7: we start, it's how we finish. They're still having penalties
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  Speaker 7: and giving first downs. They're doing all of the things,
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  Speaker 7: but they're also creating some turnovers, getting a couple sacks now,
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  Speaker 7: making stops on third downs, and getting off the field.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's all kind of just slowly shifting our way. Obviously,
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  Speaker 7: you've got to win some more games and keep things going.
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  Speaker 7: And hopefully, you know, like what you kind of said
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  Speaker 7: in your article, like, you know, shoddy being mad and being,
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  Speaker 7: you know, kind of being, you know, short with everybody.
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  Speaker 7: It's like, okay, if that's what it takes, like, that's good, man. Like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, yeah, we'd love for you to be all buddy,
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  Speaker 7: buddy and tell us everything. But if you're not, you know,
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  Speaker 7: that's fine too. Just go out there and not out
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  Speaker 7: coach yourself, you know, like run the ball, do all
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  Speaker 7: the things you're supposed to do. And, you know, things
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  Speaker 7: will come our way. The one last thing is, um, is, uh, Man,
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  Speaker 7: I love the max protection that we're doing. Let's get
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  Speaker 7: Dak more behind center, you know, max protect. And I'm
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  Speaker 7: okay with only two receivers out in the route, as
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  Speaker 7: long as one of those is Pickens or Brown or
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  Speaker 7: even Mingo. And so let's go, you know, throw it up,
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  Speaker 7: you know, two people on them. you know, PI call,
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  Speaker 7: whatever it is. But, I mean, we had a lot
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  Speaker 7: of success last year with, you know, going to pick-ins
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  Speaker 7: with two guys on them, going with CD with two
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  Speaker 7: guys on them, and coming out with positive plays. So
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  Speaker 7: I'd like to just see more max protection, keep Dak
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  Speaker 7: more comfortable in the pocket, and, you know, let's keep
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  Speaker 7: on running the ball and take our shots when we
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  Speaker 7: need to. You know, we'll get to 30 points. You know,
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  Speaker 7: we don't need to do it all in the first half.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I mean, thanks for the call.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of stuff there. I can't even, I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember everything that he just said. I did. The last
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  Speaker 2: thing you said about, you know, we have success throwing
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  Speaker 2: the ball with two guys on you. I, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's, that's really what Dak wants to do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think what he wants to do is
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  Speaker 2: find the open receiver and, and, and make, you know,
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  Speaker 2: make sure that, that, you know, he's got the right read.
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  Speaker 2: He trusts everybody that's running routes for him. So, You know,
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  Speaker 2: I thought Ryan Flanoy had one of the biggest plays
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  Speaker 2: in the game, honestly, early on when it was seven
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  Speaker 2: to three in the first quarter and Philly had already
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  Speaker 2: just gone down there and scored and it's third and
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  Speaker 2: eight maybe. And, you know, it's not. It's not looking
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  Speaker 2: good early because your defense just gave up an early
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  Speaker 2: touchdown and all you got was a field goal. And
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  Speaker 2: now you're about to have to punt here on third down.
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  Speaker 2: And Dak had a really nice throw on the right
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  Speaker 2: side to Flanoy in front of the Eagles bench. And
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  Speaker 2: then he kind of toe tapped and got up the
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  Speaker 2: field and didn't go out of bounds. I thought he would.
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  Speaker 2: And he got a 35-yard gain. And then that got
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys rolling on offense to go score their first
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  Speaker 2: touchdown and take the lead. And then from there it
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  Speaker 2: was that type of game. But I thought that play
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  Speaker 2: was really important because any time your other guys do something,
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  Speaker 2: because the focus is on Pickens and CD, and then
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  Speaker 2: you've got obviously running the ball. But when someone else
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  Speaker 2: does something like that, when Flanoy or Ferguson or Spanford
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  Speaker 2: or any of these guys, Turpin, when he's in there,
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  Speaker 2: when they do other things, It only just adds to
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  Speaker 2: the arsenal of what they've got. All right, let's go
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  Speaker 2: to Rick in Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, Nick.
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  Speaker 11: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 11: I'm good.
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  Speaker 5: I'm good.
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  Speaker 8: What's up?
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  Speaker 11: You know what you said earlier? It doesn't matter who
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  Speaker 11: you play. You play when you play them. So if
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  Speaker 11: they're hurt, they're hurt. You go out and do what
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  Speaker 11: you can do for your team. and you play the win,
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  Speaker 11: whether they're playing against inferior talent or not. Because if
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  Speaker 11: it was the shoes on the other foot, nobody would
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  Speaker 11: be talking about all the Cowboys lost to the Eagles
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  Speaker 11: because they didn't have all their players. It doesn't happen
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  Speaker 11: that way.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 11: But I thought it was a good balance of running
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  Speaker 11: and passing, so that was good, too. uh, keep that
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  Speaker 11: up and going against Arizona, break that streak of losing. And, uh,
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  Speaker 11: let's go in. And, uh, my, you're probably going to
• 16:31
  Speaker 11: right now, my initial, uh, score, uh, score is going
• 16:35
  Speaker 11: to be 28 to 20 Cowboys and go Cowboys. And let's, uh,
• 16:40
  Speaker 11: get this win.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks Rick.
• 16:42
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: It's been a uphill battle for the Cowboys against the Cardinals.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: It just, it just has been. And, um, Every one
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: of these games that they lose, it's always kind of
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: a surprise, I think, because it's the Cardinals. I mean,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: it just is. And I'm not downplaying them because they've
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: dominated this series here for the last almost decade now.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: And they've never lost a game at AT & T Stadium.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're 4-0 here. Even that really
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: good season the Cowboys had in 2014 where– They were
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: playing really well. I think Romo was banged up some,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and he gets hurt. Brandon Whedon, I think, has to start.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I think I got my year right there. And then
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals win that game. And it was just right
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a really good season Dallas had,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: but they didn't even beat the Cardinals. And so that's
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: just kind of continued. They did win a Monday night
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: game in Arizona in 2017, but that's the last time
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: that they've won against the Cardinals. So they, uh, Arizona has, uh,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Dallas's number for sure. And, um, and not only that,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: but some weird game, weird things kind of happen in
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: these matchups. Uh, so let's see if the Cowboys can
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: handle success. I mean, that's, that's the thing. They, they
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: had a really big emotional win at Houston and four
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: days later went and just sleepwalking in that Tampa Bay game. Um,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: so how do they, how do they bounce back here?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Short week again. Um, and It was a really good
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: win against Philly, but now you've got Arizona coming in here,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and they're 2-5. But the same quarterback dominated Dallas last year.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: So let's see what happens this time around. All right,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Chris in San Angelo.
• 18:34
  Speaker 12: Mr.
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: Nick, how are you doing this morning?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Good, how are you?
• 18:37
  Speaker 10: I'm doing well. Thank you, man. Yeah, I'm going to
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: dwell on this win.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to stay with the win a little bit longer,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: not quite ready to move on. 17 points is impressive
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: in the win, and you think about how many times
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: the defense could have gotten off the field, but a
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: penalty extended the drive.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Too long.
• 19:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you think about it, but if they had cleaned
• 19:07
  Speaker 10: up penalties or if they do going forward, if they
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: hadn't had that in this game, it actually could have
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: been a laugher. I mean, it could have blown them out.
• 19:21
  Speaker 10: But yesterday you were talking about the touchdown run callback
• 19:27
  Speaker 10: from Goodson, and your point is well taken about saving
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: the defensive snaps But also, it gave Goodson, I think
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: it gives him confidence. And they're going to need that
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: second running back going forward. So I was going to say,
• 19:46
  Speaker 10: is it fair to say that with... Javante's running style,
• 19:52
  Speaker 10: he doesn't really run away from a lot of contact?
• 19:56
  Speaker 10: So do you think that could be a recipe for
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: trying to see more carries from Goodson going forward?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I was going to see what you thought about that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Chris, thanks for the call and good to talk about
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: this running game again and more than just Javante. I mean,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Tyler Goodson, his stats weren't that impressive, but he's a
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: different type of back too. And he's one where, you know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: if you run him the same plays you're going to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: run Javante, it's probably not going to have the same
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: kind of success. However, what it does is it kind
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of throws off the timing a little bit for what
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: these defenders are used to with when, you know, Javante
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: gets the hole, hits the hole, hits the hole, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: then Goodson hits it. And it's different than what– it's
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: kind of very similar to what they had a few
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: years ago with Zeke and Pollard. That's a real thing.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Linebackers will tell you, defensive coaches will tell you that
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: having that change of pace back really is what it is.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: the pace and changes the rhythm. And so Goodson is
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: going to be that type of guy that, you know, every,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: every now and again, he's going to, he's going to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: bust one for, for a nice run because he's got
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that kind of speed. He saw it on the kick return.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: That was what was unfortunate about the penalty is that,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: you know, at first I saw a different angle and
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, there's no way that's a, that's a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: hold on Baron. I saw it from the back end,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: but when then when they show the end zone cameras
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: kind of saw that he tugged on the, on the
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: shoulder pad, You could see the call, but it was
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: unfortunate because the way Goodson was moving, that linebacker wasn't
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: going to touch him. So really not necessary, but it
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: was a really good run. He looked like a running back,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: kind of, which he is, returning a kick. And nothing
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: against Turpin, who kind of does his thing in his
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: own unique way. But if Turpin gets past the wave,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I mean... it's it's going to be a touchdown and
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: he's just got that kind of speed with goodson you
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: could see he was kind of a running back he
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: got through the the hole and then he had to
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: cut it back and then he cut it in touchdown
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that's not really what you're going to see out of
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: turpin it's just going to it's just going to go
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: and so when it hits it hits it but i
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: think there's advantages to having both of them back there
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and you know when turpin does return I think you
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: still put Goodson back there as well. He's a little
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: bit bigger. He can block for Turpin if he needs to,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: and if the ball goes directly to him, take off.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: But a good thing to have, I think Javante is
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: still going to be your back, obviously going to be
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: your main focus, but having a different change of pace
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: is good. The Cowboys just cut. Demar Cardo again as
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: their third back. So they may try to bring him
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: back to the practice squad, but right now they just
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: have the two backs. All right, let's go to break.
• 22:54
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  Speaker 2: We are moving right along here. We're in Utah. Travis
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: in Utah is next.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Hi, Nick.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: I wanted to ask if you could give your assessment
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: on how you feel special teams have been performing so far,
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: and particularly with the last game. We just talked about
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: the kickoff return that got called back, bummer that got
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: called back, but I think that showed some potential that
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: we have there. I wasn't really impressed with special. I
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: didn't feel impressed with special teams the first few weeks
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: of the season, but I feel like there's We've been
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: performing better. We've got good kickoff turns. I really like
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: the kickoff. I feel like the Eagles really struggled to
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: catch the kickoff, and then we were able to pin
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: them really deep. That also raises the question of, were
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: the Eagles just not well-organized relative to us on special teams,
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: or are we just really gotten good at special teams
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: or both? So I wanted to ask your opinion about that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: I really liked our kickoff return, but I also just
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: really liked our our kickoff game and covering the kickoff
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: versus Philly.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: All right, Travis, thanks for the call. I think that's
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: a very good point. And to, to, to point out
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: there that the fact that the, the coverage has been
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: really good to me, it starts with Aubrey, the, the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: kickoffs that he it's, you know, and he's been criticized
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: when he kicks it out of bounds and, Or if
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: it doesn't hit the landing zone or whatever. But there's
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: so many different strategies that you can do with kickoffs.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: And the best one is if you can line drive
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: it and get it to roll into the end zone
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: for a touchback to the 20. That's probably the best
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: case scenario. However, he did a really good job of
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: getting that ball to bounce around in there in the 20. Now,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: even though it bounces, you don't start until the guy
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: gets the ball. But think about your momentum when it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: up in the air, just your regular kickoff, end over end,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and the guy gets it, and he goes. That's a
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: motion that they're used to do. That's how they practice.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: They look at it, they get it, and they're already
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: kind of moving forward, and it got momentum. But when
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the ball rolls around, it's rolling around, and you've got
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to make sure that you get it, number one. And
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: so you're Once you finally secure it, I mean, you're
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: just as flat-footed as can be. And then you start
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: to get upfield, and then you have to take your
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: eyes off of everything. So now you're not really sure
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: where it is. And by then, the guys are already there.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So it starts with the kickoff, and they're doing a
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: good job of kind of mixing it up. And then
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the coverage units have been good in that field position. Now,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: we say all that. And we still see 85-yard drives
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: for touchdowns and 90-yard drives and all that. So just
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: having them pinned back doesn't always mean great things. But
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I think you've seen some good returns. You know, decent
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: not only by Goodson, but Mingo, I think, had a
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: good one on kickoff return. And then Turpin, you know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: when he's been in there. So, yeah, I think overall
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: special teams has been good. I mean, other than.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: This was a few weeks ago. We had the two
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: blocked field goals in a row, back-to-back. That was just
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: a mishap, two weeks in a row. They look like
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: they've cleaned that up. I would say it's kind of
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: been about 50-50, maybe a little bit better than that
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: because you can't forget about those field goal blocks. They
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: were a part of it as well. Sebastian in Savannah,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Georgia is next.
• 28:39
  Speaker 15: What's going on, buddy? How are you doing?
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 28:43
  Speaker 15: I'm doing real good, man. I'm going to get to
• 28:45
  Speaker 15: the 30-second scouting report on the cards. But first I
• 28:48
  Speaker 15: want to touch on Brian Schottenheimer's presser because I forgot
• 28:51
  Speaker 15: to yesterday. Listen, Brian came out with the Black Forest
• 28:53
  Speaker 15: of Energy, and he came from the era where he
• 28:56
  Speaker 15: was here with Martin McCarthy. So he knows how bad
• 28:58
  Speaker 15: it can actually be.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: So, of course, it's a double-edged sword.
• 29:01
  Speaker 15: Now some people know that they actually do get to
• 29:03
  Speaker 15: use some of the buttholes. We'll try to do it
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: even more. But as far as the card notes and
• 29:08
  Speaker 15: the Cowboys games goes for Sunday, my prediction is a
• 29:11
  Speaker 15: 28-20 game. They have a good defense. Josh Sweat, Nolan,
• 29:16
  Speaker 15: and those guys over there, and Collins, David Collins, they're
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: all getting after it. Uta Baker has been in the
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: league for like nine years, and he's still making plays
• 29:23
  Speaker 15: every single week. Their defense is not the reason that
• 29:25
  Speaker 15: they're losing games. As far as Jacoby Brissett goes, he's
• 29:28
  Speaker 15: playing okay. He's actually, like, against defenses like ours, he's
• 29:30
  Speaker 15: actually playing very well, so we do have to be careful.
• 29:33
  Speaker 15: And then I'll call in tomorrow because I discovered a
• 29:35
  Speaker 15: few things about CP's defense that I wanted to talk about,
• 29:37
  Speaker 15: but I'll let other people get in. Other than that,
• 29:39
  Speaker 15: you and Mr. Beam have a great day, and I'll
• 29:41
  Speaker 15: catch you the next time.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: All right. Appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, Cardinals have some
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: guys over there on defense. And, yeah, Sweat and Baker. Yeah,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Sweat's a guy that's been talked about as potential trade.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Jacoby Brissett, and I thought this was a
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: very interesting stat that I came across yesterday, just kind
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: of looking at stuff. There's 13 players in the league
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: that have started seven games this year. You know, that's
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the max, seven weeks. There's some teams that have had
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: a bye and obviously injuries. But of the 13 players.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: That have started, the Cowboys are going to face one
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: here in the next four games. Of those quarterback ratings,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: if you just rank those 13 guys, and Dak is
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: one of them, so he's like sixth or seventh in
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that group. They're going to face number 13, number 12,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: number 11, and then number one. So Daniel Jones is
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the worst quarterback rating of those guys that have started
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: every game. And then next is Jacoby Brissett, and he's
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: like at 82. He's. 4. And then Cam Ward for
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the Titans, he's in that group, too, at 11. And
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: then number one is Brock Purdy, who you're also going
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: to face. So I thought it's interesting because in the
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: next four games, if you're like, hey, if they win
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: three or four, these are the three you would pick
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: to win and this one and all that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: So, but....
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: 49ers aside, and really the Colts aside, you know, Jacoby Brissett,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: he kind of is what he is. But if you
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: give him opportunities, he can go and win games. I mean,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: he kind of reminds me a little bit of what
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: we've seen in Baltimore, you know, when Huntley goes in.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just different. But, like, they can run
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the offense. They can make plays. You know, they can
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: be sound and go win games. I mean, if Cooper
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Rush can go win games for you, Then the backup quarterbacks,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: and Jacoby Brissett is not a backup. He's not the backup.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: He's their starter for now. Now, they are looking at
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: some other options. I think Carson Beck, he's been injured,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: but he might be somebody at some point that they
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: turn to. This might be their swing game, the Cardinals.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: But they're in a tougher spot, obviously, than Dallas. I mean,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: they're one game down, but they're in a tougher spot
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: just because they're in the— They're not winning their division.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at where the Niners are in Seattle
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and even the Rams. Now they beat the Rams. I
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: thought it was kind of weird, too. Two and five
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: football team. They've only won, you know, in the same building,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's not their own. They've only won
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: at SoFi this year. They went at the Chargers and
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: at the Rams. So that's the only place that they've
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: won a game this year. But then again, they might
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: feel at home against the Cowboys. They've never lost there.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Jeff. He's in New Jersey. Jeff,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: what's up?
• 32:45
  Speaker 12: Yo, what's going on, man?
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: How you doing?
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: First-time caller, man.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Good, good.
• 32:48
  Speaker 12: Long-time listener. Appreciate you letting me get on here.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Chris?
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: There it is.
• 32:55
  Speaker 11: I was waiting for it, too.
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: You did.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: You were holding out. Yeah, you're a veteran. You've done this.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so just a quick point and then a question.
• 33:05
  Speaker 10: For you, if you will.
• 33:05
  Speaker 12: So I was obviously listening a.
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: Little bit there.
• 33:08
  Speaker 12: The Cardinals stuff, do you think that, you know, especially
• 33:12
  Speaker 12: based off what the Packers did there, that Jonathan Gannon
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: made a big impact there on Dak's luck, I guess,
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: when they end up playing the Cardinals?
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I do. I do think that, I mean,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: they weren't, they weren't, Dak wasn't himself in that. You
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: talking about last year's game or, and every time.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:32
  Speaker 12: Just like in general, like it seems like when he
• 33:34
  Speaker 12: runs into him, he, he seems to struggle.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: Yep. He does.
• 33:37
  Speaker 15: He does.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Um, and, and that, that Cardinal game, that was just not,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: that was just a weird game again. And like, like
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: all of them are, you know, it just, it just
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: was one that just, that didn't look like what we
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: have seen out of Dak and this offense and, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: defense and, He seems.
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: To have his number, especially with Arizona, then with Green Bay,
• 33:55
  Speaker 12: and then even when he was in Philly, he always
• 33:58
  Speaker 12: has a little something for Dak. And then a question
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: that I have here. So I was watching the game,
• 34:03
  Speaker 12: the Philly game, obviously, and when I see these guys
• 34:06
  Speaker 12: get off the ball, these linemen, with the edge rushers
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: and stuff like that, there's a little more hand movement
• 34:13
  Speaker 12: and hand fighting and stuff like that. But the guys
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: in the interior, they seem to kind of still want
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: to do hand fighting. When the ball snaps, they're up.
• 34:20
  Speaker 12: they're standing up trying to put moves on one to
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: two seconds. Just from my perspective, at least it's almost
• 34:25
  Speaker 12: like a waste of time instead of actually pushing to
• 34:28
  Speaker 12: try to get back there. I don't know, especially in a,
• 34:30
  Speaker 12: in a instance with McGee there, you know, having that
• 34:32
  Speaker 12: extra time with that for any quarterback, I guess, obviously,
• 34:35
  Speaker 12: but is that something to where like they're trained to
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: kind of do this swim move things or kind of,
• 34:40
  Speaker 12: you know, instead of just straight initiation and just start
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: pushing back bull, I understand bull rushing and stuff like that, but.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I don't know about you, but that's not
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a place that I've lived before, you know, really in
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the trenches. And so for me to sit here and
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: comment on what's the best move there, do you get
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: their hands down or do you just start bull rushing?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I don't. I would be lying if I told you
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: that that's– I would love for Nate Newton to answer
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that question. But I'll say this. You know, Quinnen Williams
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: is leading the NFL in– tackles for loss among defensive
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: tackles from, you know, among the, that position in that area.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Nobody's got back there more than, than Quinn Williams this
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: year in this, in the entire league, he was leading
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: the league last week or tied with six. And then
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: he gets three in the game. So I, I, you know.
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: I, Maybe it's just like a perspective for me.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Whatever he's doing to win back there, and he also
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: leads the team in sacks, which is not a good
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: thing because you really want your edge rusher to do that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: But whatever he's doing to get in the backfield I
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: think is working now. If you're talking about maybe some
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: of the other guys, Kenny Clark or Abonia.
• 36:04
  Speaker 12: Maybe Overtone or Abonia and stuff like that. I just
• 36:07
  Speaker 12: feel like with our– the needed for the need for
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: pass rush, the minimal second, you know, even if it's
• 36:14
  Speaker 12: one to two seconds that you're wasting, trying to get
• 36:16
  Speaker 12: your hands in the right spot or trying to throw
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: hands or swim moves and this and that, you know,
• 36:20
  Speaker 12: maybe that's, that's time wasted.
• 36:21
  Speaker 15: That could be brought on pressure. I.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: You know what, I, I haven't seen that. And, um,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: but that's something to certainly look out for. Um, you know, I'm,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I think Quentin Williams has done a good job. He's
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: the one that we see. But if some of the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: other guys, you know, maybe that is something to look for.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I haven't noticed that. But, you know, I don't always–
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of bad about it. I follow the ball
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit. And I shouldn't all the time. I
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: should kind of keep an eye on the trenches some,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: but I haven't done that. But that's something to look
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: at for sure.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: All right, cool, man.
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: I appreciate it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 36:58
  Speaker 12: I'll try to get through again.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 36:59
  Speaker 10: It was good.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Great job, man. We'll talk to you.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I like people being observant, you know. I mean, I
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: can't say that I've seen that, but I think that's cool.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: That's next-level stuff. Good to hear from Jeff in New Jersey,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: or the first-time caller. All right, let's keep it going.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: This guy, not first time. Albert in Tucson. Albert, what's up?
• 37:17
  Speaker 16: Good morning, Nick, my brother. How are you, man?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I'm good. What's the vibe in Arizona? Are they thinking
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: they're going to go get a win?
• 37:26
  Speaker 16: You know what, man? I think they're going to have
• 37:29
  Speaker 16: a fire sale here pretty soon from what I see
• 37:32
  Speaker 16: on the news.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Let's start now. Get after it. Start doing it this week.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Why wait?
• 37:39
  Speaker 16: Why wait, right?
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: See?
• 37:41
  Speaker 16: Hey, we got a double up from that win in
• 37:44
  Speaker 16: the preseason. But you know what? I'm on the game.
• 37:49
  Speaker 16: Of course, very happy with the outcome. I got a
• 37:53
  Speaker 16: question for you. Their leading receiver is Trey McBride, tight end.
• 37:58
  Speaker 16: What do you think of Joey Porter on him all day? Also,
• 38:05
  Speaker 16: you know, this is what I like.
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: About the offense.
• 38:08
  Speaker 16: It's a little bit more balanced.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: What do you think?
• 38:11
  Speaker 16: We're going to see more trickery in there. Babysitting, so
• 38:16
  Speaker 16: that's all I got. Go Cowboys, and thank you.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:20
  Speaker 11: Bye-bye.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Bye.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: You say he was babysitting? Is that what I heard?
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Yeah, it was a quick call. It was
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: in and out. It's all good. So, yeah, keep an
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: eye on the kids. I love that. Man, Joey Porter
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: versus McBride. I mean, that would be one. I think
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: that would be an advantage, obviously, for the Cowboys to
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: be able to do that. uh, you know, that's not
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: what make bride, um, is, you know, he's, he's not,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: he probably doesn't get a lot of corners going after him.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Now you get closer to the goal line and, and,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you know, it becomes a, maybe a, you know, kind
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: of a fight down there, your jump ball type situation,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: but Joey Porter is pretty tall too. So, uh, I don't,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I hate that. Uh, I, I
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: like anything. I say it all the time. I, I would,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I would mix it up. I would, you know, I wouldn't,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it in the first quarter or so.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: And it's, second and second quarter and it's a big
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: third and seven you need to get off the field
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: the next thing you know Joey Porter's right on him
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: And so if that's what Brissette's looking at, you might
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: have to think something different. Now, I wouldn't just say
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: first play the game and just do it every time,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: but at times, at spots, yeah, mix it up a
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: little bit. Maybe Caleb Downs can get in there, but
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I like Porter, especially from a standpoint that they don't
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: have a ton of other guys. I think Wilson, is
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: that their other receiver? He's not bad. They did trade
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: away Harrison. But, you know, so they've got some weapons.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: But I don't hate that idea about Porter on there.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Not every play, but at times, sure. And also, depending
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: on where he's lining up, you don't see Porter a
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: ton in the slot. But, you know, for a situation
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: like that to go up against a tight end, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: a good one, I mean, a really good one. I mean,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: he's a receiver-type tight end. But, yeah, he's one of
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the best in the league, if not the best tight
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: end right now. So, all right, let's go to break.
• 40:18
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• 41:38
  Speaker 2: got Bruce in Houston. Bruce, what is up?
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Here we go!
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: Hey, Nick.
• 41:44
  Speaker 17: I ain't first-time caller.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I'm one of the OGs.
• 41:46
  Speaker 17: I got the sweatshirt.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I know. I specifically told Chris. I was like, we
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: need a here we go. Here we go is for
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: first time in a while is what it is.
• 41:56
  Speaker 17: I know that's right. Well, I've had some different work scheduling,
• 42:01
  Speaker 17: and quite honestly, Nick, I've just been so frustrated with
• 42:03
  Speaker 17: these guys. You know, I'm 65 now, and I've been
• 42:08
  Speaker 17: rooting for them boys since I was five years old,
• 42:10
  Speaker 17: thanks to my dad.
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: But.
• 42:13
  Speaker 17: And speaking of Scottie, I just have a couple of points,
• 42:17
  Speaker 17: and then I do have one question. I'll hang up
• 42:18
  Speaker 17: and listen to your thoughts.
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: A couple points.
• 42:23
  Speaker 17: I like Shottie. I like his energy. You know, you
• 42:25
  Speaker 17: see some of those post-games. And we got one touchdown
• 42:29
  Speaker 17: for so-and-so. And I don't know if the– I could
• 42:33
  Speaker 17: see that working in college. And I know these guys
• 42:37
  Speaker 17: are still in their 20s. They're babies to me. But,
• 42:39
  Speaker 17: you know, I just don't think– I just don't– well,
• 42:44
  Speaker 17: when Parcells came and Jimmy, we all know all the
• 42:47
  Speaker 17: history there, Mr. Landry, who I grew up with, you know,
• 42:51
  Speaker 17: Jimmy even said, hey, I'll be your buddy in the offseason.
• 42:53
  Speaker 17: We'll go fishing and drinking. But, damn it, we're going
• 42:55
  Speaker 17: to work right now. And he didn't– you know, I
• 42:58
  Speaker 17: think they need that. I hate to say it, but
• 43:00
  Speaker 17: that's what it seems like. So I don't think he's
• 43:03
  Speaker 17: the right coach. That's just my opinion. But, you know, hey–
• 43:09
  Speaker 17: Hopefully they go on a– I was hoping at first.
• 43:12
  Speaker 17: I thought, well, if it's done, if they're done. If
• 43:14
  Speaker 17: they got beat by Philadelphia, I think they'd probably trade Pickens,
• 43:17
  Speaker 17: you know, and try to get what they could for
• 43:19
  Speaker 17: him like all these other teams. But hopefully they'll turn
• 43:22
  Speaker 17: it around. I mean, this is the year to– because
• 43:25
  Speaker 17: you're only going to get one game. There ain't going
• 43:26
  Speaker 17: to be no wild card out of our division. That's
• 43:28
  Speaker 17: for darn sure. And anything can happen in the playoffs.
• 43:31
  Speaker 17: Dak played great, and he's been playing so-so, but he
• 43:35
  Speaker 17: played pretty good. And there's the blueprint right there, Nick.
• 43:38
  Speaker 17: Run the ball, let him throw it 15, 20 times max,
• 43:43
  Speaker 17: and just control the clock. And the defense should get better.
• 43:47
  Speaker 17: I know it's a new change and all that other stuff,
• 43:49
  Speaker 17: and I'm going all over the board here, but my
• 43:52
  Speaker 17: question to you is this. You know, they're talking about
• 43:55
  Speaker 17: Aikman possibly coming, you know, out of– ESPN to the Dallas.
• 44:02
  Speaker 17: Do you think that's possible? And would he, would he
• 44:04
  Speaker 17: have a GM de facto, uh, name or, you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 17: I'll just see what you think about, but.
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: Anyway, good show, Nick.
• 44:12
  Speaker 17: I still listen to you. I just hadn't been able
• 44:13
  Speaker 17: to call, but have a great.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: Day, buddy.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Bruce is, uh, he's definitely one of the, one of
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: the original, uh, storyline guys that he was, you know,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: all storyline team, I think his first year for sure. And, uh, uh,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: glad you could, you could call back. So, um, As
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: for shotty, you know, I think it's really about the wins.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: You know, that's what it is. I don't try to
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: get involved with all the, you know, the rah-rah stuff
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: like that, you know, after the game. But I think
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: that's fine. You know, I don't– I think that Terry Bradshaw–
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: had one of the worst takes that I've heard in
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: a while when he said that about after the game,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: they were celebrating Dak when, you know, they all touched
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: down record. And, you know, you're supposed to celebrate championships.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's just stupid. That's just a stupid take.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: And I always say that opinions are, you know, everyone's
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: opinions are, you know, are undefeated. But that's just, to me,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a former player that, like, yes, you understand locker rooms.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: because you were in one, but you don't understand this one.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: You don't understand that one. And so to sit there
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: and to say, well, Dak, you're not supposed to be
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: celebrating that. They celebrated the win, okay? They won the game.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: They won the game, and it was a convincing game.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: They went out and won, and their quarterback went through for, what,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: three or four touchdowns, and he's the all-time leading quarterback.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Touchdown passer in franchise history. Cool. I mean, that's awesome.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: They celebrated it right then. It's not like they went
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: out for a week and did a parade and all
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So anyways, and it comes back
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: to that, like, you know, and Chris right here, our producer,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, he makes a good point about Pete Carroll.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: That's his style. And when they won, it was fine.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: No one cared about that. And that's what Shoddy did.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: He learned it from that. You can be Landry. You
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: can be Tony Dungy. You can be that, and you
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: can win, and you can be rah-rah guys. If you win,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: your style is good because it's your style. There's a
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: lot of coaches out there that are just jerks. I mean,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: look at them. They're just a jerk, but if they win, cool.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: That's who you want. Jimmy was that way, but it worked.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: So I think none of it really matters unless you win. Now, Aikman...
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about that one. I mean,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I'm here. It's picking up steam, it seems like. He's
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: saying some things. Jerry's saying some things. I don't know
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: if that will ever be the title that he will get.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's what Jerry would do.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I really don't. That's one that sounds great,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: but I'll believe it when I see it. I know
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Troy's going to be doing something different next year. We
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: know that. But, you know, it would be cool to see.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: But I just have a hard time thinking that's going
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: to happen just because it hasn't happened.
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: We got one more. Chris in Saratoga Springs. Yeah.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: Hey, Nick. I'll wrap it up.
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: How are you, my man?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you doing?
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: Not too bad.
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: Been listening to you all day, all morning. And, you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: I agree with you on the take on Terry. He's
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: getting older. I don't agree at all with what he said.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: Not one bit.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: You know, and he also came back after that and
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: said the defense is actually now playing really good. When
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: he said that, I was like, you're not watching. You're
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: not watching.
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: You're not watching the game.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: No, and I even tweeted that out. What's worse, the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: take or the Fox actually clipped it and said, let's
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: post that. Like, they actually messed that up as well.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: But anyways, go ahead.
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just want to give you your props, Coach.
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: You know, you got all these podcasts, you got all
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: these shows, and there's multiple people involved. It's just you
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: sitting there behind a microphone, and you make it work
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: every single day. I just want to thank you for
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: all that you do, first of all, because it's commendable,
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: and I appreciate you very much.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. You know, and
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of it, too, is, you know, I like
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: to talk, and I like to be selfish, so, you know,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: I don't have to be like, well, I don't have
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: to wait for this person. You know, they're all out
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: of here. It's just me, you know, so... Uh, no,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: it's fun. You know, it's, it has its moments. I mean,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. After some of the losses,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: it's not, it's not easy. And then, you know, when
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: the hang up, I'm just like, take a break. And
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh wait, it's just me.
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: Like I have to keep talking.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: So, but it's a good thing. I, thanks for saying that.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: And it's, um, you know, you guys are so well
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: informed and it's, it's, it's really good to, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: you guys bring up some good points. Like today, some
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: of these, some of these points you guys are making,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: it's just like, wow, you really do study and watch
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: the game very closely and, It matters to you guys,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: and that's what I like about it, because I've been
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: on the other side of it, and I appreciate it
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: from the fandom part of it.
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: Now, as far as Shoddy goes, I might be on
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: an island, but I really like Shoddy. I like what
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: he does. I like how he acts. He's really in
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: a no-win situation sometimes. You know, the media's on him about, oh,
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: he talks too much, he's explaining too much, and then
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: the next time after a game, he's docile, doesn't say much,
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: and then they give him crap for that, too. He's
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: in a no-win situation. What's going to quiet the noise,
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: like you just said, is winning. Winning cures all. Once
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: we start winning and we stack a couple wins... and
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: getting on a little bit of a winning streak, all
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: the noise will go away as far as what shot
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: he can and cannot do. I think he does a
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: very good job. Um, and we just, you know, we
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: need time and we're getting a couple of people back again,
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: coming up soon. Um, and I, I, I re I
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: really do like him and I'm, I'm rooting for him
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: a lot for, for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, for sure. As a person, I mean, yeah, he's
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: easy to root for. So yeah, I mean, you want,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: you want his style to, to work. So, um, but
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: you know, he, he didn't have a lot of experience
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  Speaker 2: as a head coach and, And, you know, there's a
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: lot of reasons where you could say, well, you know,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: this was a bad hire, bad move, whatever, if you
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: wanted to go that route. But, you know, I think
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: that the Cowboys are believers in him and his style
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: and his change in the culture, or at least trying to.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
• 50:17
  Speaker 8: Yep, and last thing, my son, he still, to this day,
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: he plays flag football, and I coach him, and he
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: uses that saying again, can you win a game in
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: the first quarter? No, he still says that to this day.
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: So I think that means stuff to these guys in
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: the locker room as well. So, again, thank you for
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: everything you guys do. We appreciate you very much.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. Thank you so much, Chris. Thanks
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: for saying that. Yeah, it's, you know, it's... I don't know.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Going back to the shotty thing, you're right. It's a
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: no-win situation at times, especially with the media because of
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: how you handle it. It's like if you came out
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: and you were just all fired up and it's like, yes,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: we did this. And the response would be, dude, you
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: beat the Eagles. They don't have any players.
• 51:02
  Speaker 16: Congrats.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: But then he comes out and he's like, yep, motivated.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: It was a good win.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, what's wrong? What's wrong with shotty?
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: So it's like– You know, you're right. Can't do it
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: either way. But anyways, I mean, I think he's about
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: as honest as a head coach as we've seen before.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, really, as far as he tells it, pretty
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: much like it is. And if you listen to him,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: especially at training camp, you start listening to some of
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: the things he says, you know, then you don't get
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: surprised with, oh, this guy made the team. It's like,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: he actually has been saying it for a couple of
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: weeks now. So anyways, we'll talk about this tomorrow. For
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. We'll see you tomorrow on
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