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Demi Adejuyigbe Disobeys Bridger · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

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  Speaker 1: I invited you. Hear fun, I made myself perfectly clear,
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  Speaker 1: you dan to surbey me?
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  Speaker 2: no gifts. I'm Bridger Weineger. We're here in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: I've had breakfast, I've had lunch. I had a babybelled cheese.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even need that, but I had it anyway.
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  Speaker 2: just kick back, crack open a cold one. Don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Why would I even sugget I'm kidding. That's not this audience.
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  Speaker 2: What needs to be talked about. I watched The Little
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  Speaker 2: House on the Prairie as usual last night. The town
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  Speaker 2: drunk was drying out and he saw a bat, live bat,
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  Speaker 2: which was frightening. And that takes us brings us to today.
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  Speaker 2: You get to create your own reality. And if that's
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  Speaker 2: escorted out of the theater. I don't know who cares.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into the show. I everybody atdoors. Today's guest,
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  Speaker 2: it's Demi add Juebay. Welcome to I said no gifts.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Is there a new little house on the prairie or
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  Speaker 4: is this a thing? Okay, I'm just curious. I had
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  Speaker 4: a lot of questions through that intro and I was like, interrupt,
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  Speaker 4: but I would love to.
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  Speaker 2: Know there is a new one coming up. By mistake,
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  Speaker 2: we just started rewatching the old one. My boyfriend and
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  Speaker 2: I had never seen mist well, not like I slipped
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  Speaker 2: on a banana fiel. No, I wasn't aware that the
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  Speaker 2: new one was coming up, that they were rebooting the show,
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  Speaker 2: and we were out of things to watch because there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing left to watch on television.
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  Speaker 3: They've run out.
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  Speaker 2: It's clean. But I thought, let's try watching this, and
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  Speaker 2: he had watched the entire thing, and so he was
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  Speaker 2: excited to watch it again. And now we're I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we've been watching for months and we're not done with
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  Speaker 2: season one.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, how well we're slow TV watchers.
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  Speaker 2: I think last night we watched episode twenty three of
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  Speaker 2: season one.
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  Speaker 3: There are a lot of episodes in.
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  Speaker 4: Beautiful What TV used to be more than twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: It's eight.
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  Speaker 3: Now we've gotten to eight. Yeah, ten is a rare thing.
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  Speaker 4: Ten is like a oh they had money and like
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  Speaker 4: several a lists startingtechs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they had everything going for them. Thirteen it's
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  Speaker 2: unheard of. Yeah, eight and then six you think, well,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't really have an idea.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Six is they didn't believe in it, but someone's son
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  Speaker 4: wanted to do it.
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  Speaker 2: They needed to do something to cover six hours of tvage. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but Little House. I think it went for like ten seasons.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably like three hundred episodes.
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  Speaker 5: So wild.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you a single thing about that show,
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  Speaker 4: even though I know it's a phenomenon. But I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I do love that. That's how TV used to be.
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  Speaker 4: It's like there's an audience. Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was probably one of nine shows on TV at
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  Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, you grew up in Texas, so and
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in Utah and growing up in Utah
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  Speaker 2: I and the show was before my time anyway, But
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  Speaker 2: like reruns, I was never interested in. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that just feels like basically what I'm living in deserty landscape.
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  Speaker 3: So I avoided it. But now it's so enjoyable.
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  Speaker 5: Does it feel I don't. I don't. The show isn't
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  Speaker 5: set and you tie it.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's set in Minnesota but shot in Santa Clarita, California.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, Now when you watch it, do you feel
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  Speaker 4: like it reminds you of like the area you grew
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  Speaker 4: up in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, but then it's it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: almost a weird realm of where do where are they?
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  Speaker 2: Because they're in the desert, but it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota often in winter, but it's like the wind is blowing,
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  Speaker 2: it looks very hot. But the things you get out
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  Speaker 2: of the show are the actors actually driving the wagon,
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  Speaker 2: actors on horses, the same actor that you see on
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  Speaker 2: within the scenes, and then a lot of you know, raccoons, rats, bats, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of wild marm and none of its special effects.
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  Speaker 2: It's just creatures that they've brought in, beautiful chickens roaming.
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  Speaker 4: Before they were like, oh, we probably can't do this
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  Speaker 4: because we can't control these animals.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the new one is going to
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  Speaker 2: drop the ball in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 5: Certainly they're going to do like drone spins.
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  Speaker 2: I get a drone intro to the show. I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: And they're not going to put a child on a horse. No,
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  Speaker 2: they're not even put an adult on a horse.
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  Speaker 4: They'll shoot it from away where you're like, okay, that's
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  Speaker 4: just like they're being pushed in a parking lot, back
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  Speaker 4: and forth, and then they'll go to a wide and
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  Speaker 4: it'll be clearly like an adult small woman from behind,
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  Speaker 4: like doing the bugy.
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  Speaker 3: Motion, which has its merits.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose and they're all but they are shooting in Canada,
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  Speaker 2: so I which everything now is done as well, But
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  Speaker 2: this actually makes sense because that will look like Minnesota. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so maybe it'll get a few things right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I probably won't watch it. I've got the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the show to watch.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Cut to ten years from now, you're like, well, we
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  Speaker 4: finished the old one season, we start the new one.
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  Speaker 4: It's on season two.
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  Speaker 2: That's not a bad idea. Within ten years, maybe this
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  Speaker 2: new one will have aged so much that it.
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  Speaker 3: Will feel like a throwback.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And by then they'll be making one episode a season
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  Speaker 2: of each TV show and we'll be like, wow, remember
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  Speaker 2: when they used to make eight?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh what happened? Now Ryan Murphy gets to make two.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait to be like, oh remember Netflix.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I actually can't wait to say that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you were just in Australia, which I was talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, were you all over the country? What was going on?
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  Speaker 5: I was?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I was localized to like just I
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  Speaker 4: was in three cities in Australia, and then I went
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  Speaker 4: to New Zealand. I went to Sydney, Adelaide over to
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  Speaker 4: Auckland and then to Melbourne. Okay, so not too much
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  Speaker 4: of Australia. I felt bad because it's like, there's the
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  Speaker 4: entire East Coast and like up on the West Coast
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  Speaker 4: that I really wanted to visit.
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  Speaker 5: But I also was like, I'm here for.
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  Speaker 3: A month, right, and it's a massive country.
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  Speaker 5: Huge country.
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  Speaker 4: I also didn't like people were like, oh, any spiders
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  Speaker 4: and snakes. It's like no, I was in the city everywhere,
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  Speaker 4: so I didn't see any of that, not even like
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  Speaker 4: a small spider.
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  Speaker 3: Did you get to see a kangaroo at any point?
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  Speaker 4: I saw kangaroo in New Zealand because I was in
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  Speaker 4: New Zealand and I was like, well, I want to
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  Speaker 4: go to the zoo. I want to see some wildlife.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I saw kangaroo, I saw some EMUs. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I got the full tour of Australian wildlife
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  Speaker 4: in New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, how was your experience of Australia in general. I've
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  Speaker 2: never been there. I feel like it.
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  Speaker 3: To me, I'm like, oh, it's California, the country.
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  Speaker 5: It kind of is.
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  Speaker 4: That makes sense. Yeah, i'd never been either, and I
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  Speaker 4: really loved it. I'd spend a lot of time in
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  Speaker 4: New Zealand because I used to date a woman who
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  Speaker 4: lived down there, but I had never been to Australia proper.
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  Speaker 5: And I again, I.
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  Speaker 4: Was in the city, and I feel like I was
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  Speaker 4: so engrossed in just doing the show that I kind
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  Speaker 4: of didn't explore too much.
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  Speaker 5: But I really really liked it.
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  Speaker 4: It is like if California was a city that was
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  Speaker 4: more walkable, I had better ways to get around without
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  Speaker 4: a car, right, But I guess Los Angeles more than
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  Speaker 4: California as a whole. But I really enjoyed it. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like everyone I met was so lovely and just Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I kept describing it as like I felt like I
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  Speaker 4: was going to space. But it's not that the place
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  Speaker 4: is very very different. It's just like every little thing
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  Speaker 4: is like two steps away from what I'm used to
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  Speaker 4: it being right, usually in the way that it's more
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  Speaker 4: convenient or more like, oh that makes more sense when
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  Speaker 4: you'd be inventing this thing, but right, so.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like two inches into another reality. Yes, that
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  Speaker 2: sounds nice.
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  Speaker 5: It was very nice. I miss it. I want to
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  Speaker 5: go back.
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  Speaker 2: How are you getting from city to city just flying?
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  Speaker 2: Flying short flights?
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  Speaker 5: Though?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, did you have the food. I imagine it is good.
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  Speaker 2: That's the other thing where I feel like everything has
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  Speaker 2: so much sunshine. This is an idiot's view of a country.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm an idiot who went there, and I
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  Speaker 4: think my videos views the same.
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  Speaker 5: I did like the food.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't put a handle on what Australian food was, right.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's like when you go to the
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  Speaker 4: UK and it's just like, well, what's the great food here?
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  Speaker 4: It's like Indian food and it's like other culture's food.
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  Speaker 4: Right of colonization. This is what we brought back, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, that's fine, that's all good.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like the only food I can really associate
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  Speaker 2: with Australia is breakfast food. Yeah, because whenever I go
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  Speaker 2: to a country, like when I was in Italy or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: the best breakfast I would ever eat was at an
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  Speaker 2: Australian right place was it would it be like toast
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  Speaker 2: and like veggie mite or marmite, or it'd be like
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  Speaker 2: it just very like generic idea of brunch in a
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  Speaker 2: good way, you know, avocado and good bread and eggs
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  Speaker 2: and bacon.
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  Speaker 4: I do feel yeah, they got like good, Like you said,
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  Speaker 4: bread and eggs, and like, I wonder what it is
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  Speaker 4: about breakfast because I'm like, I feel like the countries
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  Speaker 4: I associate with like strong good breakfasts are either like
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  Speaker 4: like European places like the UK, or like Whales or
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  Speaker 4: like Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Very like hearty. Yeah, I wonder is it like countries
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  Speaker 2: where they have a lot of miners, maybe because they
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  Speaker 2: got they gotta fill up in the morning.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta sos them up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, And there are other countries. Often when
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  Speaker 2: you're traveling you find out most people don't care about breakfast.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, no, I I felt, which is comforting to me
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  Speaker 4: as someone who here does not really eat breakfast.
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  Speaker 3: You're kidding. I hate to hear this. You hate to
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  Speaker 3: hit your big breakfast head.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand how people don't do it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't do it because I wake up too late,
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  Speaker 4: and also because I feel like growing up, I was
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  Speaker 4: just like all right, I'll just go off and then
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  Speaker 4: it's like at a certain point you're like really hungry,
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  Speaker 4: and then it's lunchtime, and much is so much more
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  Speaker 4: satisfying because it's like, whoa, I've been waiting for this, right,
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  Speaker 4: But I also it's largely that I wake.
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  Speaker 2: Up too late, right, so do like you wake up
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  Speaker 2: and you have a coffee and leave.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even have a coffee most of the time
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  Speaker 4: with you several things, but it's mostly the time it's
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  Speaker 4: I I didn't until very recently start drinking coffee. And
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  Speaker 4: even then it's not like a thing. It's like a
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  Speaker 4: this will be a fun treat. And occasionally it's just
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  Speaker 4: like a chai latte, which as no capture.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, no, I don't. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: My day just A lot of the problem is also
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  Speaker 4: like without a job, my day starts when it's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: what do I have to do?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: So I wake up and be like like for this
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  Speaker 4: it was like, okay, well the things at noon, So
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to wake up at eleven and then eventually
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  Speaker 4: I'll be there. But I, yeah, I've never really drink
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  Speaker 4: coffee routinely or had breakfast, and I do wonder if
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  Speaker 4: my life would be so much better if I did.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to say. It might be worse, way worse.
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  Speaker 4: That's so true, and I'm going to live in that reality.
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  Speaker 4: So I feel good about my own.
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  Speaker 2: So have you had lunch today? It's kind of lunch.
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  Speaker 4: I have not have I had anything to I had
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  Speaker 4: a handful of skittles before I came here because I
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  Speaker 4: left them on my counter and then was walking around.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, okay, yeah, so I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: Like I feel like we should bring in some sort
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  Speaker 2: of dairy product.
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  Speaker 4: Now, because then I'm going to really earn dinner another
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  Speaker 4: handful of skittles.
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  Speaker 2: Do you do?
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  Speaker 3: You have big dinners?
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  Speaker 2: Do you like? Because dinner for me is the grand
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  Speaker 2: prize and it needs to be special.
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  Speaker 5: I don't, but I do.
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  Speaker 4: I love cooking and I love like being in the kitchen,
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  Speaker 4: So I feel like there are times where it's like
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  Speaker 4: I will prepare for the day by going like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: what are we having for dinner today?
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm going to be like building towards.
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  Speaker 4: And it's more exciting when it's like I live with
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  Speaker 4: someone or I'm dating someone, because it's like, great, I'll
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  Speaker 4: cook for both of us. When it's just me, I'm
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  Speaker 4: like whatever, I'll throw some shit in the pan.
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  Speaker 2: Right, like a thing that you really put care into.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, well, this is just going into the void. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: someone should be able to witness it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not impressed who cares.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to eat anything, but if it's someone else,
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  Speaker 4: it's like vo la la a steak.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Going back to your trip just momentarily, because the thing
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  Speaker 2: that's keeping me from that part of the world is
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  Speaker 2: the air travel.
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  Speaker 3: How long is that flight it is? I want to say,
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  Speaker 3: sixteen hours. Walk me through how you survive that sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very good at sleeping on airplanes, oh yeah, which
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  Speaker 4: I've heard is a sign that I have very bad
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  Speaker 4: sleep patterns in real life, which.
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  Speaker 2: Is oh yeah, sounds like it was just the eleven
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  Speaker 2: o'clock waking up.
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  Speaker 5: Mm hmm, that'll do it.
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  Speaker 4: I also I have narcolepsy, so I feel like there's
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  Speaker 4: also a little bit of like I can fall.
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  Speaker 3: Asleep, right, It could just happen at any point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even have to be like they'll be
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  Speaker 4: like it's one hour flat. I'm like, I'm sleeping on
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  Speaker 4: that plane. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I'm so jealous of that.
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  Speaker 5: Don't be. My neck is not happy about it.
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  Speaker 4: It's such a It's the thing is to sleep on
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  Speaker 4: any plane, even if you're like people be like you
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  Speaker 4: just got to fly first class.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like first of all, shut up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a solution. You do not talk about
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  Speaker 2: that like that's an easy thing to do.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But even it's like there have been times where I'm like, oh,
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: I'm having this long flat, I'm gonna sploil, I'm gonna
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: go first class, and I'm like, it's nice to lie
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: down flat. You are still contained to this small box, right,
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: that's not really a bed, No, it's really not. And
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: like if you're like, oh, I want to bend my knees,
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: it's like, okay, well you're bending your knees into the
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: side of a very hard, like plastic container. But I
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: I will just sort of like roll up a blanket
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: and put it against the window and complain and like
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: sort of shift every hour, and then it's like that's
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: half of the flight you've covered because I can't sleep
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: for too long, right, And then what I do is
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: I go through Actually a lot of times it's the
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: other way around. Sometimes on a flight, I will just
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: go through like the the in flight thing and be like,
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: all right, here's every movie that I'm interested in watching,
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: and then I'll fall asleep. And sometimes it's like I
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: don't get to watch those movies and sometimes it's like,
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: all right, we'll still got eight hours, let's see what
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: we got, and it's just like going through and be
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: like all right, sure, twister, Okay, this now Charlie Wilson's War, why.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Not that's a real airplane?
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is based on the real movie that I
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: watched on my flight to Australia.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: That film was made to watch on an airplane.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: I think Aaron Sorkin's mad if he learns that you
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: watched it in theaters or on DVD.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: He campaign for that not to be in movie.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He wanted us straight to plane movie. Yeah, somebody
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: should have. Somebody's got to do that at some point.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Straight to plane movielane mo.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: American Airlines got to form like a studio where it's like, well,
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: fund any movie that's under a million dollars, knowing that
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: it won't make any money.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: It's just gonna go straight to plane.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: And it needs to be highly emotionally manipulative. Yeah wow, Charlie.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: And it cannot have a plane crashing for many reasons.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: But oh lord, yeah I watched We went to Japan
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: and in April and like three days before we watched
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the first episode of the reheard so the new rehearsal,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: which is all about planes crashing.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: It's it was a very difficult time for me.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Imagine, are you not good at plane travel?
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I've gotten so bad at it. Oh God, I get
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: worse and worse with each flight. It feels like eventually
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm gonna not be able to get on
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: a plane.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong with Did something trigger it
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: or is it just time?
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: And I guess just time? And yeah, I think the
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: news recently, but within the last two years, it feels
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: like every time turbulence begins, I just absolutely freak out.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I honestly, I feel like I used to be like
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I'd be like field turbulence and be like none I
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: can do bad it and just be like I would
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: accept death almost Ye, what can I do? And I
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: was flying to I think it was from Des Moines, Iowa.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: And we had like a layover in Las Vegas. And
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: the flight from Vegas to Burbank is like fifty minutes,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: shouldn't be too bad. There was turbulence on that plane
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: that was so bad. I was truly just like, why
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: is no one else everyone else seems fucking calm?
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: What's going on? Are we we must be dead already.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: I just like, I was like, I felt bad that
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: no one else reacting, And I was texting because my
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: ex has a big fear of flying, and I was
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: texting just like, Okay, I feel like I feel what
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: you're feeling. I don't understand what's going on. I understand
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: what's going on, and I think the worst part is
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: no one else was reacting. So I was just like,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I'm crazy, what's going And that was the first time
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: and I was like, do I have a fear of flying?
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: What's going on?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I will often look around and be like, Okay,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: if no one else is panicking, maybe it's fine, or
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: maybe I'm right right, there's no idea. Yeah, it's a terrible,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: terrible feeling. But yeah, I feel like there's nothing I
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: could do to solve that other than certain people say
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: take a xanax. But then I think, what if, for
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: whatever reason, it reacts poorly in my system and then
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I'm really freaking.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Out right, And what if it's like, oh, something's going
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: wrong and I'm out of control of my body?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Right, So then well then I guess it's everybody else's problem. Yeah,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: get me deal with Yeah, I get to go viral.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: All kinds of things are happening. That's really what it's
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: all about. Yeah, it could be good for you having
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: a plane meltdown, go viral.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: A friend of mine also has a newly a new
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: found fear of flying, and it didn't help that he
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: went on a flight once. I think it was actually
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: it was a flight that happened. It was like we
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: were in San Francisco for Sketch Fest when Kobe Bryant
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: died a helicopter crash, and I think on the flight
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: back from that, he experienced turbulence and someone else on
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: the plane said this isn't normal and freaked out, and
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: I think that made him just go like okay, I yeah,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I can't do this anymore. Awful fi, yeah, really bad.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I was in the Target parking lot when I found
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: out about Coe.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: It was weird because I remember someone saying it, and
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: that's being like, what a weird joke, and then seeing
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: everyone just be like get on their phones and be like.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Oh shit, oh shit.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: It's so strange to like have a strong memory of
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: where you are when someone famous dies, right, Like I
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: remember Michael Jackson died and I was at home and
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: I was like, this seems wrong.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I don't think so.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: And I went over the like the like sort of
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: upper balcony railing at my parents' house and just went
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: mom and she's like, yeah, Michael Jackson died, and she
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: was like, oh no, and like that's just I just
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: remember being like, that's not too strong of a reaction,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: and then I just remember the rest of the day
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: was me just looking at news and reactions to being
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: like this is wild, this is this is really insane.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: That I was working at overstock dot com. Yeah, I
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: remember I was copywriting and I find out Michael Jackson
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: died and it was a weird feeling because he was
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: such a complicated person. It was like I don't know
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: what to think about this. Yeah, also young death ish
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: young ish, Yeah, but we were all doing something and
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: just kind of I don't know what the react the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: appropriate reaction was at that time.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe other than confusion.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: For me, it was just sort of like, what do
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: you mean how Like I feel like whenever someone dies
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: in an age that isn't like natural death of ninety,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, must have been some weird freak accident.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: It must have been like they they got hit by
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: a car, like it saw yeah, d I'm doing a pivot.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna do carpentry, and and mediate was like, oh,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: never mind, I shouldn't have done that.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: He was framing a new room in his house. Or
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I remember where I was when Princess Die died. We
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: were all the family was in my dad's truck on
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: our way to what is now Jamba Juice, but at
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the time it was called Zuka Juice, Zuka Juice in Utah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: But then I got bought out by Jamba Juice.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: I believe. Oh so it was a separate, okay.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Separate thing.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I think Zuka Juice must have been like whoever, I'm
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: sure whoever opened that visited a Jamba juice elsewhere and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: then came back and was like, we got to do
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: let's do a Zuka juice. We were on our way
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to Zuka Juice to get a smoothie. Princess Die is dead,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: that's uh. And I think that's the only other celebrity
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I can remember dying. What other big celebrities have passed?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I remember where I was when day This is such
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: a pleasant topic for everyone. Yeah, I was in Kettle
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Glazed Donuts when I found out David Bowie had died
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: six am.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Six am. Yeah, that's well, you seem like an early riser.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: No, but at the time I was working at Jimmy Kimmel.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: We had we started working at seven am. Yeah, so
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I would go there and get as much coffee as possible.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: And then was that a thing where you're like, shit,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: how do we cover this on Kimmel now?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: No, I think that I can't remember how it was
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: covered that day. That's a great question. I don't I
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: assume there was at some point someone said something tasteful,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: or we just didn't cover it at all, or maybe
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: we were pre taping or something.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Hard to say, I remember I was.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I don't remember where I was when I found out
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: and he died, but I do remember that the previous night,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: we were playing a game and my friend drew the
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: name David Bowie and was like, sorry, I don't know
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: who this guy is.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: We were all like, what what are you talking to?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: He killed David Bowie?
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he killed David Bowie. He was like, I'm so
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: annoyed of them. I'll talk about this guy. I'm going
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: to kill him. He's dead now.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: David Bowie really felt like psychic damage to wake up
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: and be like, what the fuck?
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: How did he? What are you kidding? We were just
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: talking about him.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: What was the game you were playing?
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Do you know Fishbowl? Some people call it Celebrity?
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Oh? Of course our friend Ellen.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Oh oh yes, our friend Ellen, the inventor of.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Games, the first person to have fun. Yeah, as far
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: as I know, she taught me it was okay to
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: have fun and to dance. She unlocked dance for me. Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: It is funny to think that there might be someone
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: for whom that is true. That's a lot of people,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and I think that's actually very sweet. Outside of the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Ellen of it all, I'm just like, I do think
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: it's sweet. It's just like this lady who dances on
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: TV and she seems like she's having so much fun.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think that person's heart was probably broken later.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: But Ellen's trying to make a comeback. I just learned yesterday.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Is she she's in England selling our house, sure, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: wants to get back to daytime.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I see she's staging a comeback. In that case, I
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: take back everything I've ever said. Ellen, I'd love to
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: work for you. I love to work for you. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: was joking every time I've said it online, I've been joking.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: We're all kidding out.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: We're all kidding you love jokes.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: We have so many game ideas.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, reach out, Ellen, degenerous, reach out. This be the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: start of your comeback.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, come on the show.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I will read the list of accusations.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: And you can deny each one piece by piece.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Did you see any of her recent special?
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I saw clips of it because my my friend Kevin T.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Porters is the sort of impetus for.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: One of the craziest things that's ever happened.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Unbelievable.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: For Kevin to be the Hannibal Buris of Ellen's downfall
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: is psychotic. And I saw that it is essentially her
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: just going like they came for me, and just like
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: the opening of it being like the tweet being blurred
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: and like.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Oh his tweet, that's right, I totally forget his is
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in the special.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Being censored, the charity stuff being just like cut out
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: and be like that's not that's not part of it.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: But and then also her getting series of applause breaks
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: from people just being like yes, yes, you're the victim. Yeah,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: which I think is so funny. But I didn't see
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: any of the jokes.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I probably saw one or two of
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the jokes.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I watched just the beginning, and it's like, well, like,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: why would I watch any more of this?
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: But we wish the best.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, Ellen, we miss you.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Get back on your feet. Ellen, dust yourself.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Don't let the haters take you down, or your coworkers.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Or anyone else that you want to scream at.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't let anyone tell you that's wrong.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of inappropriate behavior, I was excited to have
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you here on the podcast today. I thought, Demy will
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: come by, we'll have a nice time, we'll move on
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: with our days. The podcast is called I said no gifts,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: So I was a little surprised, a little throwne. You know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: you've been around the block with podcasts. Uh. You showed
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: up holding what is obviously a gift, which I assume
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: is for me.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I misread. Oh I thought it was. I said no
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: gift like with a comma. Oh right right, Yeah, I'm okay.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: This is so embarrassing.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: That feels like an easy mistake to make.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I agree, So let's all let's not let's not go
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: ellen on me. But I did. I did, in fact
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: bring you some gifts.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, should I open it here on the podcast?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I mean if you want to, sure, fine, It's in
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: this delicious little blue bag.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Yea cuny. I love this type of paper.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: I was like, I'm going on a podcast. I want
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: something that makes a lot.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Of noise, Yes, as much noise as possible.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: And that's the gift. There's nothing insight, it's just it's
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: a plaything. Yeah, it's asmr.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Let me reach in here. It feels like there are
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: multiple things there are, doesn't matter what order I take it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I would say, the first thing you maybe want to
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: be careful with because it might get on your hands.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'm touching something that may be getting all
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: over my fingers. I'm gonna I'm just gonna pull it
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: out and see it for it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's a mini key lime pie that I made.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: That I've just put my fingers right into. Look at that,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: and I will say, there's also a hair in it?
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Is there a hair in it?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Is that a hair or a crack?
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Wait?
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Let me see you inspect. I do think that is
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: a hair. And what's worse, I think it is a
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: cat hair. It is a distinctly a hair with a gradient. Okay,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: so that's totally fine. I assume your cat my cat. Yes, well,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: I'll have to eat it at some point. At some point,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: maybe we could get a fork or something, and here
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: you can eat around the hair, eat around the hair.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: My cat's pretty clean. I've lived in homes with all
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: sorts of pets.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I assume anyone who's had a cat or dog has
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: consumed at least a pound of dog fur.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I do believe so, and then even more on accident.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, by accident, yeah, of course, on purpose, the
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: amount of furs handless, Yeah, but by accident at least
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: one or two strands.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what the dinner we were talking about
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: is a lot of cats, A lot of cat.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: For Yeah, well, I want to talk about cats and
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: key lime pie. But are you making a lot of
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: these little pies?
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: I make a lot of pies in general.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: The other day I made a pie for a friend
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: who was moving away temporarily, and I have all of
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: these tiny little gram cracker crusts, and I just had
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: extra Keylan pie feeling.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: So I was like, let me just make extra and
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I've just been ghishing them out.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: How long have you been making pies for?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I have been someone who likes to bake all my life,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: but I feel like pies have been pretty recent, Like
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I would say, in the pandemic, when everyone's getting into baking,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I was like, what's the thing I can bake that
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I can also distribute to friends? And pies and cakes
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: felt like a thing where it's like, oh, it's a
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: friend's birthday. I can go and drop this off and
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: say hi to them and talk to them. But it's
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: also just so I think pies are things that can
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: be made easily and feel like the ratio of difficulty
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to the amount of exuberance people feeling is like, it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: just like you've done this.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Huge things like a miracle.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: I'm like around hard, but I love to do it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I love to follow the instructions, Thank you so much,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: instructions of someone having putting them online, and they just
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: like I've made a thing.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I've done science right right.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And also there's certain It's like the amount of
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: that you can decorate a pie is so fun when
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: it's like a apple or rubar pie, and you do
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: like lattice.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're cutting a shape out of it. Yes, what
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: was the first pie you made?
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: I think the first pie made was probably like it's
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: a standard apple pie.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, that feels like kind of high level difficulty.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: I don't think I was doing like lattice or anything.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I think it was just like I'm just going to
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: put the crust on top and have it and I'm
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: sure it didn't turn out well.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are you making your own like pie crust? See
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that's the reason I never try. I would try a
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: gram cracker crust. I get that. That makes sense to me,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: And it's hard to screw up butter and gram cracker. Yes,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: it's very Yeah, but with the pie crust, you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like every recipe is almost threatening. You like,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: if you don't do this, if you don't refrigerate the water,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: blah blah refrigeration.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: It's like it's a lot of prep. It's you going.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: It's you have to decide ahead of time that you're
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: going to make a pie from scratch. And it's been like, okay,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: well I'm making a pie tomorrow, so it's day I'm
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: going to make a crust right, which is sometimes annoying,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: especially when it's like make it in a circle and
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: then cut it in and it's like it crumbles sometimes huh.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: But I just feel like it's another step and I'm like,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: when there's more stuff I can do that's fun and
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: takes up time, and there's less I have to do
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: another thing?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: What a healthy attitude.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: My baking, I can't plan ahead. That's my big problem.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: So the only thing I can ever make is a
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: cookie because that required that's just one thing.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: You do it and then you're done.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I do love that though, where it's just like I
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: gotta bring something to sing, I'll make a cookie.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Right, make a cookie every I mean, I really do
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: think if you make anything at home, people are going
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to be like, Wow, what a life he's living. Yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: who is this renaissance man that he's able to do something.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: It's like, well, I'm not living in a life, which
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: is why I'm able to do.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: So much time. You have no idea what's your favorite
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: pie to make?
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: So until very recently I had not had or made
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: key lime pie. I made it for a friend and
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: she's like, how have you not had this? You should
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: try a slice. And I tried it and I was like,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: this is actually like I also rarely eat the things
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: that I'm baking. Sure it's for someone else, right, but
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I really enjoyed that, and I feel like I've made
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: so many since. And then we'll make like whipped cream
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: and do little decorations on it, and I I like that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: But I also I do like like a strawberry rhubarb pie,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: just because again the lattice work and getting put stuff on,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: and I think it's so fun.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: What do we think rhubarb is?
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I nobody knows, and it is confusing. Every time my bikes,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, this is a fruit. It's like a bitter.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Fruit but also celery.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And also if you eat it raw, it's poisonous.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Is that true?
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: That is true?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like I've eaten raw rubarb.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: You're one of our strongest soldiers.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Then I feel like it's a kid. I was obsessed
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: with raw rubarb really, yeah, because it's like sour.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: That's it is.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: I don't maybe it's if it's not cooked in a
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: certain I do.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I feel like many a time, maybe it's like when
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: you're a child, everything is fine or it's like you
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: were getting sick and you're like, I don't know what
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: it is.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Could explain a lot of things about my personality. Yeah,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: they're like, there's nobody to know what this is. Keeps
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: you on that rhubarb yeah, because I feel like I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: would eat it almost like celery. Yeah, and you usually
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the only time you hear of rubarb is essentially in
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a strawberry rubarb pie.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: And it feels like as no other use it's not.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: It's also like it's always it's with strawberry.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: At a certain point, I'm like, it feels like this
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: should just be one fruit.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hybrid, Yeah, that feels like some straw straw barb
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: straw barb barbery barberry.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: The options are endless.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: It feels like somebody's got to start working on that,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: although textually it might start to be a little bit
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: of a freak. YEA strawberries are I guess they both
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: have a snap though A good strawberry isn't like mushy.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: No, But I feel like the texture of a strawberry
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: on the outside is like that has the little seed dimples,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: and I love that so much, and I'm not I'm like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: don't give it to rhubarb, rubarb.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: It's just flat. It's celery. It's like crunchy. I don't know.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And to see all those little seeds in a long
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: celery stock would be unpleasant.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Mortified.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is why they haven't done that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: That's why you and I don't work for Monsanto.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Monsanto does mon Santo do the sort of
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: thing make uh, genetic vegetables.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they are doing the GMO. It's like someone's like, no,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: they don't, Mike will publicly probably.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got a real doctor Moreau. Is that the thing?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, the island of Doctor Monsanto.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: They've got a basement where like someone's just whipping like
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: fruits that like got it, get back, get.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Back, Okay, I need to I want to try this pie.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: You don't have to if you don't want to. I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: mean I've had We're gonna get it out of I'm
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: gonna get away from the.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Hair if you must.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: If I'll save that for later. A little midnight snack.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: Do you have pets?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: I just started to ask a question right as you eat.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: So rude talk now. Oh that's good. Yeah, that's a
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: good lime flavor. Yeah, very tart, which I enjoy.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I Also, the thing about a key lime pie is
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: when you buy the ingredients for one pie, it's like,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: now you have the stuff to you just have a
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: bag of key limess.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: Right, so I will just be like, Okay, well who
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: wants pie?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Everybody? I gotta make fucking four pies to make this
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: worth it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I'm drowning here right right.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: No, But to answer your question, we just got a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: puppy about a month and a half ago and she's fantastic.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: You have it one cat.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: I do have one cat. I used to have a dog.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: He was a senior dog.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Every time I hear about someone getting a puppy, I'm
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: just like, I cannot imagine that.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Well, that's that was my thought as well.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: We had a dog up until twenty twenty three and
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: she passed away and my boyfriend got her when she
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: was one, so she was young but not a puppy. Yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: and he came to her very well trained. Whoever had
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: had her before had done some training, so we like
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: it was just an easy as a cake walk with her.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: And I've had a puppy, like as a kid, we
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: had a puppy, and I know that it's a process
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: you have to go through. It's a tough situation. And
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I said absolutely no to a puppy. But then we
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: started going to shelters and stuff and trying to find
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: a dog, and eventually we found this picture of Bonnie
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: or dog, and it was just you know, of course
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: it's nature tricking you where it's like, look at this creature.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Of course you want it. And so we got her
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and she's been fantastic. My boyfriend, I think, was a
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: little like I can't believe that she has energy. I
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: can't believe she wants to chew on things. Yeah, but
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: like as far as a puppy goes, she's been as
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: good as she possibly can because I did not want
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to deal with a puppy and basically we haven't had to.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: She's huge though, yea.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: She started maybe this big, and she's I think thirty
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: thirty five pounds at this point, and she's gonna be
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: she's going to she's a Rottweiler, so she's gonna be
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: like eighty five pounds maybe.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: But it's fun when you have a puppy because you're like, oh,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I want I think this is This is also how
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I felt when I had my first my sister had
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: her first daughter.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I want to know you at
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: every age.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's just like, oh, I don't care what
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: sizer or whatever you are.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: It's just I'm sure it'll be lovely the whole time.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: I do remember thinking, like with my dog, when I
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: got so attached to him, and just being like, I wish,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: more than anything I can know who you were when
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: you were small. But also because I'm like, he was
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: so sweet and like never barked him. It was just
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: very nice and friendly to everyone, I'm like, how did
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: you get this way? What happened?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: So? But yeah, oh right, I mean the amount of
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: like Google and I came close to hiring a private
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: eye to get pictures of our past or old dog Eedy,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: photos of her as a poppy.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I was desperate to see pictures of this animal as
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: a baby.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: And the private I would just be like, I'll just
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: go find a dollar.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Looks right, I'll go to like a breeder and take
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: a picture of this sort of dog for you.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: We'll use AI to make the dogs smaller.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: It's did you ever watch that Errol Morris documentary Tabloid?
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: No?
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good. It's it's not about dogs. Basically,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: it's about a woman who kidnapped a Mormon missionary in
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: England and kind of turned him into her sex thing
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: for a little while. Wow, And it became this giant
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: tabloid thing in the seventies. But then she disappeared and
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I guess this is kind of a spoiler, but whatever,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: she ended up being the first person to clone her dog.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: So later, like decades later, suddenly she's in the news again,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: but for this other crazy reason.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: What the waituh?
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: And and was it are they connecting any way where?
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: It's like the cloning thing? Is that?
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: No, she just, like I wonder if there was some
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: desperation for attention.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but she just loved her dog, which I think
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: was named Booker, and she I remember, like it must
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: have been twenty years ago or something like that the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: first dog got cloned in Korea or whatever, and it
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: was her. That's this lady just kept getting in the news.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: And then I worked at a talk show in the
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: when I first moved to LA and apparently I was
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: banned from answering the phone because I was so bad
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: at answering the phone. But uh, podcast again, what's happened. Yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: it was too many buttons. Ye, too much.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I can't push hold and then send about.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Actually sound stressful. Oh it's so stressful. You have no idea,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: You have no idea. But do you know Patrick McDonald? Yes,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: he worked at the show as well. He was allowed
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: to answer the phones, and I believe it was him
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: that was telling me that she, this lady would call
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: in trying to like book herself as a guest on
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's insane. What is she in jail?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Now we should check whoever you are, reach out.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Let's have her. We'll have her and we'll have Ellen
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: on the same show.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she probably would reach out to be honest, it
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: sounds like she wants to be on something. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind. Oh and also former Mormon here. Oh
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I'm putting myself in danger.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Oh that's very true. Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Well, anything for the scoop, anything for anything, for a journalist.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's also not a type that she has as
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: much as it was, like she did it once and
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: now she's actually I've been there.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I don't want no thank you.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I've closed the chapter on that. Yeah, no, she's she's
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: out there somewhere I think in Wyoming potentially still cloning dogs.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean, truly the most immoral thing
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: you can do, pet wise, clone your dog.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yes, it's I mean I just can't
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: imagine the desire for that. And also because it's like
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: people going like I want this exact dog, and I'm like,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: that's not how it's gonna go.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Do you know how anything works?
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so environment based and all. Yeah, it's just
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: not it's wild.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: And putting the pressure on that poor creature you've created
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: to become the same animal.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: I'm also just a little like you gotta learn, you
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: the thing there is really just you need to learn
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: to let things go. Not in a way of like
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: that would never say that when they're grieving, but in
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: the way that it's like if your attachment to something
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: is so strong that you're like instead of letting it
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: go or being upset that it has died and like
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: coming to terms with grief, I'm gonna use science to
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: replicate it, exactly. I'm like, there's millions of stories, like
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: cautionary tales about that, exactly.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Caness maybe like legends and myths.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think you should do that.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: They never turn out well once unless you found out
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: that the dog actually went to hell and you have
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: to rescue it by cloning it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now there's a story.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: There's a story, there's an interesting.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: You clone it and you're like, this time, I'm gonna
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: do it right. I'm gonna I'm gonna teach it how
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: to be a good dog. So it goes to heaven.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Uh, which you know you shouldn't rule anything out. No,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: you know how old your cat?
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: My cat is?
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: I think a little over to oh baby, yeah very
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: much baby.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Where did you get it?
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: So?
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: My dog passed away also in twenty twenty three years
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: but a few weeks before he passed away, a friend
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: of mine who was moving to Alaska just text me
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: being like, dimmy, there's like a cat in my yard.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. I was like, oh shit,
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I do you want to help? And then
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: she didn't respond, and like ten hours later she's like,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: this cat is still in my yard, like meowing and
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: trying to get in here, and I don't know what
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: to do because I'm about to leave town.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: I can't deal with this.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: And she had dogs and was like I can't deal
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: with this at all, and so I was like, Okay,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: i've lived with a cat before. I can come and
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: take the cat and like foster it. And I was like,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not keeping this cat though, and I named it
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: in TBD because I was like, I'm literally I was like,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I'm not giving him a name. But then at certain point,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: it's like, well, I gotta get a litter box, so
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: we had somewhere to pee, and I'm gonna get him
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: food and I had all the provisions, and I was like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and teach him to be whatever, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: he got along with my dog just fine. But I
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: also was like I can't deal with this cat and
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: this dog a lot. It's a lot, and I was
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: just like at a certain point my dog was dying
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: and my friends kept like throughout the process of my
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: cat being there, people kept just being like, you're obviously
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: going to keep the cat, Like no, I'm not.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: I'm really I'm not doing it. I'm just not. I
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: don't want a cat.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: And then like the day before my dog passed, I
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: had friends come over to say goodbye. And my dog's
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: name was Clooney because it fit his vibe. But also
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: because to me, I was like, oh, I love Ocean's eleven.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I was like, Clooney is the vibe of this dog.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: And so the day before friends came over and they
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: were like, sir, I was going to keep the cat.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: What name you think you're gonna give it. I was like,
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing that.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: And they were like, let's go through a bunch of
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: names from the Ocean's franchise that you could It's like
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Bernie mac kate and they were like Elliott Gould and
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not doing any of these. And
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: they were like, what about Terry Bennedict And I was like,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Terry Bennedict. It's kind of like TVD Terry. But yeah,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: if I kept the cat, I would And then like
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: it was, my dog passed away and I was pretty
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: quickly just sort of like, it's nice to have another
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: animal in the house.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: We're going to keep the cat.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: And so I kept him, and then my ex was
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: basically like when she would come over, would call him
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Benny a Terr Bennedict and that suck. And so now
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: his name officially is Benny, but on the like the
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: VET forms Terry Benedict. But yeah, Terry Benedict being the
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: villain from Otions eleven, of course.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: So when you go to the vet, do they like?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: The nurse comes out and says Terry Benedict, Yes, and.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: It does nothing to him because he only responds to Benny.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, cat names are interesting because you're rarely used.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like a lot of times they don't
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: answer them at all, and it does just feel like
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: a way to be, like, here's my way of acknowledging
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: the creature that is also in this right, my cat
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: very recently has been answering to it and will be
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: like I'll be like in bed, I'll just pick Benny
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: and he'll running out of nowhere and just jump into
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: bed with me, which I think is just because I
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: was gone for so long that now he misses me, right,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: so he'll get over that quickly.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: What color of cat he is?
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: Gray, short hair, Yeah, I.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Love a good cat. I love a sweet cat.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: Very rambunctious.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Well, should I keep going in the bag or that
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: you meant on the pile?
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Finish the pie was?
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, every bite? But yes, please keep going right?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, now this is a larger object. Oh oh my god,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: three D film camera.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: This is wait a three D Yeah, how I don't
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: know that I've ever heard of this.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: So basically, it shoots like if you have a roll
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: of like twenty four exposures on a roll of film, Yeah,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: will shoot half frames and it'll shoot three half frames
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: at once, which you then when you get the film back,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: you can like put it in an app or line
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: them up. So it's basically you have them like moved
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: together in like a stereogram way.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: I can show you. Yeah, I would own an example. Spatially.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I'm very bad, so I need this show too.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: It's hard to it's hard to describe, honestly, but I
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: let me just find one here.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Whoa, yeah, is this a new thing? Not because this
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: camera looks, you know, like it's old and older. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: want to say it's that's from the nineties. There's so
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: in the eighties. I believe there was a camera call
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Nishika and three hundred. I want to say that you
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: used to shoot four lenses and it's very similar, and
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I think that's probably when this kind of thing started.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: They don't do it a lot anymore. But I have
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: like two of these and was like, well, I'm going
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: to give you this one my god. I think it's
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: my favorite type of party camera and it's just yeah,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: it's just a lot of fun.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Wow, where did you get it?
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: I want to say, I got that one in New York?
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: And how did you become aware of these?
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I'm a big camera and film guy. I have I
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: think thirty one different cameras.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Use all of them, not like routinely, but it's like
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: if I buy a new camera the intention, it's like
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: I'm not just collecting them, it's.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Like I want to use it.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that like with these ones, I
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: want to say that I saw it online someone and
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: was like, that's interesting. I love to buy one of that,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: and I bought a different one, and then that one
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: broken about this one, and then I bought the original
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: one because I missed it, right, But it's just uh, yeah,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: I just I love going to a party and shooting
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: photos with.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: This, and everyone like really enjoys it when I.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Get it back, and it just feels so much more
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: lively to have a photo that shows like, of course it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: A little more cool. Yeah, what were they doing initially
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: before apps? Like how would you experience? That?
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Is such a good question. I genuinely don't. Until ten
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: years ago, you just couldn't use these.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, video like I because it's not it's not like
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: so new that it is for phones.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Right, I'm like imagining you know, like those little stop
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: or the the flip book thing something like that. Yeah,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: because I can't. And maybe they just said the technology
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: was ahead of its time and it was unusable for decades, Like.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Well, now you have four photos that look exactly the
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: same with slight differences.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: Maybe it was like in video in some.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Way, right, So sort of they put it on a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: tape or something, which seems deeply inconvenient.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's like, hey, you guys want to see like
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: a second of some photos.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Just a flickering photop on my TV.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure what they did before.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Fascinating. Yeah, do you have a favorite camera.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: You work with?
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: I have a go to camera that I shoot like
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: everything with because all of my cameras, aside from one,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: are film cameras, and I will shoot with a it's
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: a Canon EOS one end, which is just like a
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: it's a standard, but it's like it has auto focus.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: It's digital, right, but with film, and I just that's
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: a camera that I'll take everywhere with me. If it's
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: like I'm going on a walk or I'm going I'm
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: on a trip, it's like standard and fast and just
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: I don't have to like manually anything.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Right, quality but quick?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, interesting and what got you into cameras I've had.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: There was like a film camera I had for like
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: ten years that I would use every so often. But
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: there was a two years ago I was working on
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: a show that shot in Puerto Rico and I had
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: to be in Puerto Rico for three months and I
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: took this camera with me. I feel like that's when
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: it really I was like, I can just walk around
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: and have a camera, and that's a thing to do, right.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: It was an immediate activity, yes, and it made.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Me like sort of be like, oh now I'm thinking
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: about how I look in the world and how I
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: do things. And then I got into like every it
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: was like I also, as someone who like directs and
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: wants to be more of a director, I think like
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: shooting on film means that I have to be in
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: particular about the way that I frame things. And therefore
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: it's like I think it makes me better at composition
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: and understanding what.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I like in the photo.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: You actually have to think it through. You have fewer chances.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: It also gives you like an authority that I feel
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: like a phone does. Yes, when you have a camera,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: people are like, yeah, of course he's taking photos. Sure,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: that's what he would do with this thing, whereas with
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: the phone's like you're trying to sneak it or I
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: don't know, there's yeah.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I also feel like I care so much more about
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: the photos I take on a proper camera, yeah, than
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: with my phone, which I'm just like I'll be I'll
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: forget that. It's like, oh yeah, there's a two screenshots
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: of my uber eats in here, and they're also a
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: photo of my cat, and it's like.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: There's a QR code from a fly. Yeah, things like that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: But yeah, and then I got into like developing film
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: and like different types of film formats, and it just
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: became a thing that, like now is a huge hobby
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: of mine.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Are you are you developing? Like you're in the dark room? Yeah,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: do you have a dark room at your house?
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: I have like a little half bathroom downstairs in my house,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: and I just sort of when I don't have people over,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: I'll be like, Okay, that's the room where I'm developing film.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: There's chemicals and I got the window open.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I love the smell of film.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: It's really nice.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: What is that? It's like almost dangerous.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: I do think there's a world in which I had
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: I would have someone over and they'd be like, hey, actually,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I can tell that this is not good for my brain.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: I'm sure I do it a lot.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I think it's probably doing this constantly, yeah, every day.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you study film or or like photography or
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: anything in school?
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: No?
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: I I I studied film, but it was never a
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: thing that I like, I didn't use a dark room
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: in school or anything. I think it is just truly
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: like I got into the hobby of film, and then
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: by extension, would like get into like subreddit where they
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: were talking about film and then talking about film development
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: and talking about other things. Right, I'd go to the
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: place where I go to buy film and be like,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: what are all these supplies that you have around me?
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: And then just be like the curiosity just care of, like,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: well now I want to do all of this, right.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: It really can becomes such a rich hobby, yeah, which
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: just kind of never it.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Is fully you need to even just to be like
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna shoot on film and develop.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: It's like, okay, well you're gonna have to pay for
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: the development.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Literally if you have a disposable camera at this point,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: well it's still going to cost a decent amount of
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: money to even get this developed, which I do.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: One thing I love about having like a dark rumor
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: like chemicals is occasionally friends, I'll just be like, if
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: anyone's developed their film for free from a disposable I'll
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: do it with you, like in my bathtub. Who It's like,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: it's fun to like teach my friends how to do
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: it and also just be like, look at the photos.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: You look at them right now, But yeah, that's always
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: a blast.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Wow. So you can do develop in color? Wow, that's
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: really the next level. We in my high school we
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: had a photo class and we could develop in black
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: and white.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: You know what's weird is because I feel like everyone
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: starts learning in black and white, and like I was
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: told that that is the easier way to do it.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: But for me, black and white is so much more
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: complicated because it's very specific to the film right versus color.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: It's like every color role is a standard, like time
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: and probably you can do a bunch of color roles
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: at once.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Interest.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: I think it's maybe it's like because the chemistry is
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: like different or more dangerous, that it is a little
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: more like you have to do it specifically.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, color has been easy. It seem makes it kind
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: of like makes no sense logically or within the rules
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: of REAC. Yeah, it's like where did the colors come from?
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Honestly genuinely don't understand it. And I'm like, so, if
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I developed color in the black and white chemical, is
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: it going to be black and whiter?
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: Is it going to be? Like I just I don't
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: ask questions.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Have you had any big disasters?
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Not actually not like bad big disasters, but there's been
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: like one time where like the chemicals had sort of
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: worn out. I didn't realize it and I developed a
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: friend's to disposal roles and I was just like, these.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: Are very faded.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Uh okay, So I think I realized what happened, and
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: like I had to like edit them in light room
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: the best I can. But she was just like, that's okay,
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: I don't care. But I was very like, oh god,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: I've I've fucked up your photos. So you could have
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: taken to a place and had nice photos. Right, there's
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: no do over there, there's no yeah, which really bums
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: me out.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: You kind of ruined her memories.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: I ruined a lot of my own memories too.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: It's very temperate also because it's like there be times
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: where like the film gets stuck in a camera, or
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: I've like rolled my own film and it just I
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: did it wrong. So mouse stresses me out in a huge,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: huge yeah. I went to a friend's wedding recently. First
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: of all, I brought four cameras, which is crazy, but
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: I knew that she would appreciate it, so I was like,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: that's great. I shot her engagement photos. I brought like
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: a super eight camera. I had a lot of stuff
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: that I was doing. But then we went to a
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: baseball game the next day and one of the roles
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: got like stuck in the camera and I was like, well,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: in order to get it out, I have to open
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: it and brought it's like a heist, yes, And it
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: didn't successfully do the highs cause she went all right, yeah,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, I'll just undo it when
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: I get home. But like, so a lot of the
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: roles from that camera from the actual wedding. I was like,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: I didn't get and luckily I had my three D camera,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: I had my Super eight, I had a medium format
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: camera that was really heavy.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Are you you want to be directing more? Have you
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: directed anything recently?
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: Not recently.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: I directed a short film for some friends last year,
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: and I'm probably going to direct another short this year.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: But I also I feel like I've been just like
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: I have a movie that I want to direct that
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: I just am like, I need to finish writing it
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: because it's so important to me.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I keep being like, right, of course, of course it
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: could take the rest of your life.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: Oh, let's hope not it should just be like, finish
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: it this week. It's just edits. But I'm like, but
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: I can't if it's not perfect.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know that, feeling very well, yeah, well, thin,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: you'll get it done eventually.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: Let's hope, or you won't.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: And who cares.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: We're all die, Well, it'll die today.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: We could all be on a plane right now.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I have a time I got on a plane.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm going to write now, and it's like,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: now you owt you're gonna die instead?
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Is there anything else we should say about this camera.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited about this.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know if there's uh no, yeah, it's like
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: there's a little counter on top. Because it's like, basically,
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: if you're shooting twenty four a role that has twenty
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: four photos on it, you're actually shooting eighteen photos. You're
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: eighteen of the three photos shooting thirty six. It's twenty four.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: Let me say, I don't know how to Well.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you say that because the math in my
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: head was way off. Yeah, I won't even reveal what
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: I thought would the amount of photos would be taken.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: You're like three times as many.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: So I get to take a thousand photos right now. Oh,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited about this. I'll have to take some
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: pictures and put them on Instagram at point. Does Instagram
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: allow you to put them on?
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's as a video, so it'll just okay, right,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: a boomerang, right pre boomerang?
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Do they still do boomerangs?
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: I am sure that kids don't.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Right, but they're probably planning to. It'll be like a throwback.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be like I remember boomerangs.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, look at me, I'm thirty and I'll be like, okay,
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: I'm older than that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Boomerangs they didn't last that long.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: No, It's also like it's not that interesting of a thing,
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Like what if a video was short and went backwards
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: at the end, and I'm like, where's it start, what's
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: what's the action?
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: What am I getting from this? And why is this
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: better than a picture?
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: If boomerangs came before video, it'd be massive? Oh of course,
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: It's like at that point we could just you can
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: just do a longer video.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: Why would you would you have a boo?
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Right? Well, it was a bad idea on Mark Zuckerberg's part.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: We'll blame him. Well, I'm so excited about this is
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: there's nothing else in here. There's good I've gotten. What
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: a gift, What a delicious and wonderful gift I've been
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: a given. I think we should play a game. Let's
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: we're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: But I need a number between one and ten from you.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: Seven. Okay.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating to get our
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: game pieces. Okay, so right now you can recommend, and
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: let's not talk about my maths.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: I was like the way I said the way I said,
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: It's like I don't know about that, Richard. It's more
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: that you just said that you were bad at maths
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Oo okay, sorry, what do you What were you saying?
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Right now?
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: You can recommend, promote, do whatever you want. I'll be
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: right back.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Did you give me a number already?
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: I said seven?
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Seven, that's right. I don't know that I have much
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: to promote. I shot a special recently. It's called demy
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Dejuibe is going to do one backflip uh and it
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: is going to come out sometime this year, I think November.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: But I also don't hold me to that on dropout
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: where I also am doing a lot of performing stuff.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: Aside from that, Do I have anything to promote Fantastic
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: four in theaters now? I'm not involved with it, but
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: I also haven't seen it. So also I could see
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: it before this comes out and be like, I didn't
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: like that very much?
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: What else? What else have you heard?
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: The music of LCD sound System also not involved with them.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: I do like them, though, so I know that that's good.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: They could use a foot up.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not doing well. They're struggling. LCD Sounds needs
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: the Demi boost.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: They're coming in September with Pulp.
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: They sure are.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: I want to see Polp.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I want to I'll see LCD Sounds this m I
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: haven't bought tickets, so I.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: Want to go to that, but I think I'm not
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: going to be in town. But every time I've seen
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: an LCD Soundsystem show, I have a moment where I'm
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: actively thinking, this is one of the best moments of
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: my life, which is, where.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Are you going to be New York?
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Oh shame?
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, wort City in the world.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: O wor city on a plane and.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: I'm just going for fun. I want to be there.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Another obvious mistake. Yeah, okay, this is how we play
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: You'll tell me if there are a gift or a
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: curse and why. Then I'll tell you if you're right
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: or wrong, because there are correct answers, of course, and
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: you can lose shit, so just be nervous.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I'm there.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: This first one is from one of our Patreon listeners
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: who goes by the name Old Timey Juvenile. I assume
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that's their Christian name. Gift or a Curse targeted ads
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: on Instagram for things you would actually want to purchase.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: Oh gosh, that's a good one.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: I've had this many times and I do end up
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: purchasing a thing and then people will compliment me on
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: it and I have to go, thanks, it's from in Instagram ad.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say curse because when it is a
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: thing that you want and if people are like that's
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: really cool, you then have to say it's from an Instagram.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Ad, the least cool thing you could possibly.
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: Possibly You could just be like, oh, thank you.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: I wish I remember where it's vintage, but they'll know no, Yeah,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: curse because it's from an Instagram ad. No matter how
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: good it is, you have to own up to the
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: fact that it's because they saw everything that you like.
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: And when I bet you're like this, you little fucking piggy,
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: and you're.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Like I do. Yeah. Every time I've every time someone's
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: told me that, I'm like, well, you just didn't have
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: to tell me that.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could have just said thank you.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm like, I'm I feel guilty and
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: just like I don't want them to look it up
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: or be like I gotta know where that's from.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: It's like they'll find it right then it'll be even
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: more embarrassing, and I kept it from them.
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, damn, you're on that phone too much.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I do that with any compliment on clothing.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: I just immediately undercut it. Yes, well, like tell them
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: where I got it from and how cheap it was, yeah,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: rather than just saying thank.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: You, yeah, oh, thank you so much. But I think
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: it's like that.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: That's how you either keep the conversation going or you're like,
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: I know it's gonna be the next question, so let
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: me just say I got it from the trash.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Well, you're wrong. Oh, it's a gift for me. I
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: feel so strong. They've never gotten me. Yeah, They've shown
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: me things I would like to buy. Wow, and I
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: say no every single time. Okay, Well it's a gift
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: because you're strong enough. It's a gift. It's shown me
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: how strong I can be. Yeah, and how strong I
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: continue to be that. You know, they have more information
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: on me than even my partner. No one in the
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: world knows more about me than the internet, and they
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: still can't get me, still can't get you. They can
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: show me whatever they want, I'm not gonna buy it. Yeah,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: So it's a gift. For showing me how strong I am.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: That's a good point, so next time you're a tempted
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: to be strong.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: There are times where I'm like, I think you think
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I need this, and I definitely don't.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: But it's always something stupid.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: It'll be like I did see this once for like
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: an app that is like an email sort of thing,
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: and they're like, aren't you sick of paying thirty bucks
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: a month for email? And I'm like, that's not you
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: lost me, you fucked up. That's not a real problem,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: and a real problem I don't have that. You think
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: I'm different. Sorry, I'm scrolling away.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Who's spending thirty dollars a month on you?
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but it really it haunts me because
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: I'm just sort of like, oh, I think, yeah, I don't.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: That's not enough for me. I also saw one. I
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: think about this a lot. I saw one that's just
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: sort of like, will take care of a vacation. You
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: just show up and you won't even know where you're
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: going until you land. And I'm like, that is human trafficking.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: That is absolutely not a service.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: This is coming from the dark web.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Yes, there these are things that are just like they
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: think I'm either richer than I am and I'm spending
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: money poorly, or they're like you, you want the experience
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: of being hunted for sport, but you don't want to
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: admit it.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Wow, bad business concept probably works. Yeah, Okay, you've gotten
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: one wrong so far, and that's fine. Number two. This
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: is from a Patreon listener named Cashley. Gift or a
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: curse color contact lenses.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: Uh, curse. I'm gonna say. I feel like, I don't know.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: I feel like wearing a color contact lens makes you
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: look and feel so interesting, but it also does just
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: feel like, well, I guess it's probably a gift to
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: the person wearing them, because like, wow, how interesting to
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: imagine I have a different eye color.
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: But it does just feel a little like what like
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: a what a weird? Uh? Everyone thinks you have that
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: eye color.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: That's what's strange to me.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: If I met someone, I was just like, U, suge
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: striking eyes, and then they were like thank you, And
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: then over time you're like, Okay, I gotta admit.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: The different I got them from an Instagram.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, unless it's like Instagram knows that you really hit
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: your eyes. I guess if it is a color that
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: it's like, that's so on, Like if it's like red eyes,
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: it's like, oh, that's only interesting, but also still I
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: think disorienting in a way.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, stick with curse, correct curse. I mean,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: come on, it's never worked for anybody. Yeah, it's always
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: it's almost always a psycho. It almost always makes you
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: look like you work at a vape store or something.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: It never looks right.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Even if it's like basically like oh, that person would
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: have that color of eyes, it doesn't look right.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: It feels like something in like a weird dystopian sci
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: fi which was just sort of like I've decided I
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: want purple eyes. I'm like, okay, well I don't. We
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: don't have to talk that long. No offense to anyone
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: who loves their color contacts. That's great for you. I
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: just the conversation will be sure.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is is every eye is nice looking. Yeah,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: they're all interesting colors already. Hey, yeah, what's your don't
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: be insecure about the color of your eye, the.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: Thing you've had since birth.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: That will like, no one's going like, oh, brown eyes
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: brown I guess probably people do, but I think at
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: a certain one you have to be like they're wrong.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Actually that I'm fifty three.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, curse.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: You know, if you want to change a color of something,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: dye your hair, get a new.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Shirt, right, wear glasses, you wear fake glasses. I think
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with that. Fake glasses, go for it. Yah,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: it's an accessory, I agree, helps frame your face whatever.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: The only guy who gets to do is that guy
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: from Limp Biscuit who had the black eyes. Remember that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: guy the basis for Limp Biscuit, that's his name. I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: feel like we talked about him very early on in
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: this podcast, but you bring him out every episode and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: he's like, you don't know this guy. I feel like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: I'm always talking about him.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I just I'm haunted by his image.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: He wore like black contacts, so it was just like
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: all pupil that kind of a cool metal look.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that works for new metal.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: But if I just met him out in a bound
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: and he's wearing that, I'll be like, no, no, no, no,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: you're off the stage right now. You take that shit off.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: That is for music videos and for performing only.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Making everyone uncomfortable.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, one likes it. Man, you look possessed, you
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: look spooky.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, now you've gotten one right, So that's good.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: And with a member of gorillas like the cartoon.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Members, oh my god. See they can wear them, they
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: can wear them, they can do whatever they want a session.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: Wise, if I'm talking to two D, if I'm in
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: the real world, I'm talking to my best friend to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: D and he's got the contact on, I say, take
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: them out, take them.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Out, gorillas, do whatever you want to do.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: H okay. Number three this is from Emily Gift. He
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: a curse when someone says, you already told me when
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: you're telling a story, curse, huge curse.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: How fucking dare you let me just do it? Actually? Wait, no,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: I cannotigate real.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Actually this has happened before.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I've changed my mind immediately because I think if I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: got to the end of it and then learned that
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: they were just like, yeah, we're just humoring you. We
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: let you tell me if I've told you already, I'm yeah,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: I came out too hot on that. Tell me if
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: I tell me, if you told me already. I don't
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: want to waste your time. I don't think it's so
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: interesting with a story that, like I need you to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: go through it again. And also if I tell it
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: differently because I forgot a detail and now you realize like, hmm,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: wasn't what you said last time with the liar?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: I look, yeah, I look like an asshole. So it's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: a gift.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Correct, it's a gift. I think a lot of people
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: have that same reaction because it is a startling thing
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: for someone to be like, I don't want to hear
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: what you're saying. Yeah, but this is it saves everybody
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: some time. We don't unless you're the greatest storyteller to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: ever live, I don't want to hear your story another time.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: What you do need, as the person who sang you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: already told me, is you need to say that early
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: on and in a nice way say oh, you actually
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: told me this.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: Oh wait, no, I remember you said. Yes.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: That's a way to say, oh I remember you. There
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: you go. Then you put your saying you're the problem.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: And also it's like you say it in a way
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: where it's excited. He's like, now we can engage about it.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: You skipped the beginning. Let's just talk about the rest.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: But you obviously can't stop talking about this boring story.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's get into it. I think it's a gift.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: It feels similar to I think my gut reaction came
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: from the feeling of like you already told me. Almost
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: feels a little like we've met before or I'm just
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: like I'm sorry, dude, like let it go.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: We've met before. Never needs to be said, no, unless
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I guess you could say it in a nice way
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: of like there are some circumstances, but the way you're
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: currently the worst thing a person can possibly say.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the attitude of like, how dare you not remember?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: And it's like you remember everyone you've met, Like I'm
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: I think it's if anyone ever, If I if anyone
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: ever comes up to me and doesn't remember that we
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: met before, I don't care.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: You could be like my sibling and I'd be like,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: that's who cares you.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is a bad thing. Yeah, exactly, we've met before.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: There have been times where a guy will just be
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: like I'm not getting come on, dude, we've met before.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: What's my name? And I'm like what, I don't I think,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: why do.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: That to himself? Yeah, that's just cementing the fact that
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: you don't know who he.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: Is, yes, And now I'm like, well, I guess I'll
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: remember you now as the guy that I don't want.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Who's really annoying and thinks everyone knows who he is.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, meeting people, all of that is very complicated. I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: think it's just we need to stick to how are
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: you doing?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Nice?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Not even nice to see you. How's your Jacob?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's up?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Who cares if someone's met you before, doesn't matter what
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: you got two out of three?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: That is huge for me. That's huge. Tree.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: I was gonna somehow guess wrong on each one. I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: was like, it's a binary option. I'd still suck it up.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: Fifty fifty very good. You needed the win today and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: you got it. Well, you got a sixty six percent.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: You needed that today and you got it. And now, Honalise,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: our producer, has one of their own gift a curse
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: which we both have to speak to to kind of,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: you know, level the playing field. Honalise, what is it?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: Gift a curse when pop stars give their fans collective names,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: for example, little monsters Orienators.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: What's an Arienator? I've never heard of the Ariana fanom
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: I've never.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: Heard it, said, out loud, which and when you say that,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: I was like, arians, that one's a curse.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's what Hitler called. Yeah, ariators, Arienators, ariators.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: I think it's it's gotta be arian. But even then,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, I think, just.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: The grande heads, my little grande's yeah, my little thing.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: That's cute, petite.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we fixed that for you.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Oh god, Okay, do you want to or should I
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: speak to it first?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: I didn't you speak to first? I'm still thinking one.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's see. I'm going to say. I'm going to
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: say that this is a curse because it is well,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: let me back up now, because it's nickname terror to
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm trying to think of who names who you
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: give people their nickname, they don't choose their nickname. Oh,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: I'm but I am.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Going to say. I'm gonna say it's a gift.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a nice thing that
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: you get to give to the your fans. Yeah, to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: you know, collect themselves and label themselves.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: Oh so the fans presumably like it to be Like also,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: I'm like, are they giving it? Are they always giving
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: it to the fans or is it like sometimes popping
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: up in the fan group.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Like the Reddit, the subreddity side. We're at the area nat.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: Do BTS fans do they decide they're called the army?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: Or is it like the BTS calls them the army.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: I think it's still a gift either way. I'm like,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: I think it's probably a nice thing to be an
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: collective group and be like, here's how we refer to ourselves,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: and isn't that cute?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Right? I think that's nice. And I mean, this is
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: something that pops up for this podcast pretty frequently, listeners
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: saying what should we be called? And I just never
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: have an idea, which I guess that's a curse for me.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's up to them. I don't know, I curses.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: I don't like think, I don't like anything.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the big problem.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: I've been calling them listeners for years, but I guess
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: that's not specific enough. I'll do some brainstorming. If anyone
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: has a really good idea. My secret wives, secret secret wives,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: maybe my secret wives the bridge, okay, your bridge and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: they're the tunnel bridge and tunnel. We'll think about it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: We'll think about it, little monsters. I'll just rip it
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: out of Gaga's hands. Yeah, you just take it, honestly,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: how did we do?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry you guys, but they're a curse because it
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: takes something that should be an aspect of like it's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: a thing you like, but now it's become a part
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: of who you are, and this is what divides people.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: So suddenly you've got like the swiftye against the beehive.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: It becomes then this like almost like tribalist ship that
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: is like very bad and should not be like you know,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: uh explored on the internet, like we don't need any
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: more reasons to be like divided on the internet. And
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: then suddenly you were giving names to just like arbitrary
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  Speaker 6: things like oh I happen to like a thing and therefore.
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  Speaker 2: You killed Joy?
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  Speaker 6: What are you kidding me? And then as and as
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  Speaker 6: a musician myself, now suddenly I have to think of
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  Speaker 6: something like a yeah, no, it's awful.
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  Speaker 5: It's awful.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 4: I do agree that the tribalism is insane, but in
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  Speaker 4: my head, I'm like, that's kind of happened whether or
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  Speaker 4: not they have a name.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, psychos are going to be psychos. Yeah, uh, And
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: on a least, you're unfortunately wrong. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about. We were correct.
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  Speaker 5: Get in the comments tunnels.
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  Speaker 3: Secret wives, get.
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  Speaker 5: In comments, secret wives.
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  Speaker 2: Of all gender, of all gender. Of course, anyone could
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  Speaker 2: be a secret wife. That's the great thing about being alive.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: If you want to be a see wife, go for it.
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  Speaker 2: This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called
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  Speaker 2: I Said no emails. People write into I Said no
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  Speaker 2: gifts at gmail dot com, or they leave a voice note,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: send a voice note, which I realized is complicated, but
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  Speaker 2: on a least, can you explain.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, because we have not gotten enough voice notes.
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  Speaker 3: I don't just stop doing it.
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  Speaker 6: We have to do it. We have to do it.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm going to go over something with you. Okay,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: So you have this thing and it's called a phone.
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  Speaker 6: And on the phone there's this little app and it
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  Speaker 6: said it's called voice Memos, and you're going to click
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  Speaker 6: on that. You're going to hit the big red button
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  Speaker 6: at the bottom. Okay, You're going to ask a question
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  Speaker 6: and it's going to be in a quiet space. It's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: not going to be longer than sixty seconds. Then you're
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  Speaker 6: going to hit that red button again. Then you're going
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  Speaker 6: to press three little dots on the new thing that
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  Speaker 6: you've just created. It's going to ask if you want
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  Speaker 6: to share it, and then you're going to email it
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  Speaker 6: to I said, no gifts at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 3: Wonderful.
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  Speaker 6: We gotta do it, guys and make them juicy.
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  Speaker 3: An interest secret wives, let's do this.
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to be my secret wife, you better
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: have some great voice questions. Yes, I'm tired of reading emails. No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't mind reading emails either. Do whatever you want
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: to do. But Honiley's thank you for the directions and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: the little patronizing rude but whatever, demy.
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  Speaker 3: Will you help me answer a question?
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  Speaker 5: Yes they will.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, this is Bridger and celebrated guests. That's nice. They
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  Speaker 3: guessed correctly.
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  Speaker 5: They don't know that well.
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  Speaker 2: They threw a dart and they hold Yeah. I could
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  Speaker 2: use your advice on something. It's small, but I find
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: it weirdly stressful. Question mark, my friend has been hosting
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: pool parties off and on this summer. Nothing huge, just
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: casual hangs with snacks. He doesn't provide towels. Okay, I
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: don't think that anyone needs. Okay, is that the question?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: This is we're halfway through the thing is Hey, that's
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  Speaker 2: what makes it casual. Sorry, Oh yeah, interesting, Well, we
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: all have a different idea of what a pool party
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: should be.
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  Speaker 3: I guess the thing is.
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  Speaker 2: At the first one, I brought a bottle of wine,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: and I thought that sort of covered me for the season.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: But since then, I've shown up empty handed a few times,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: and I think he i'd have made a light comment
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  Speaker 2: slash hint about people not bringing things. Well, well, i'd
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  Speaker 2: like a specific whatever. So now I'm spiraling Are you
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  Speaker 2: supposed to bring something every time? Am I reading into
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: things too much? Or is this one of those unspoken
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: rules that I should have clocked that's from Becca?
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  Speaker 5: Huh?
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  Speaker 3: Why just what is towels? Why doesn't that that has nothing?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that might just be a similar like
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: it's so non he's doing almost nothing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm also just like, if I throw a
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  Speaker 5: pool party, I'm not providing.
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  Speaker 2: How many towels does a person own?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, bring a fucking towel.
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  Speaker 3: That's such an easy, bare minimum.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, so not up to a great start, Becca, But
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  Speaker 4: I also would say, I so my personal take on this,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't I think no one else agrees, is
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  Speaker 4: I don't need you to bring something?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: When you ship to my ass.
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  Speaker 4: The point that actually sometimes people bring stuff, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: this is cumbersome. Now I just have four hundred beers
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: and no one's drinking them, and I don't drink beer really,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: so I'm just like, so put the beer in my fridge.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, you don't have to bring me stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But also I think depending on how casual to hang is,
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  Speaker 4: you absolutely shouldn't have to bring stone.
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  Speaker 2: No. If it's not casual, like what especially a pool party,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: it's doing a bunch in a short period of time. Also, no,
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  Speaker 2: I think the fact that Becha brought something at all
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: is she should get a key to the house at
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: this point. Yeah, she should get to drive his car.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: And the guy what is this guy? Why does he?
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  Speaker 3: What more could he possibly want?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm i gotta know what the comment is
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: in the tone, because I'm like, was it a joke?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Was it like a thing of like? And also, if
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: you're spiraling, I think next time, bring something small and
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  Speaker 4: just be sort of like, sorry, I haven't been bringing anything.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: And if they're like what, no, it's like their response
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: to that is really it's.
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  Speaker 3: Now become a game.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, a psychological game that Becca gets to make the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: next move. Yes, and hopefully we'll outsmart this person. But
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: there's also a chance he just doesn't like Becka's personality
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: and it's trying to just hurt her.
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  Speaker 4: But also, if Becca, if you keep getting invited, I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: think it's maybe not that big of a deal. And
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: if it was a small comment, maybe it's like they
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: were they were being a little shit right.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he was extremely drunk mm hm, because of that
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: wine you'd be bringing, yes, that he's been drinking all summer. Well, Beca,
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  Speaker 2: I think you have your answer there. Buy a towel,
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  Speaker 2: that's the get. Throw a few in your trunk and
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: you won't have to worry that gift next time. He's like,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: I brought a couple of towels. I know you don't
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: provide towels. Yeah, that's what a great way to get
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  Speaker 2: back it.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he'll he'll call him be like, hey,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: so I've been throwing these pool parties and my friendmate
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: is comment about a towel.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna destroy both of these people's lives. Well, we
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: answered the question perfectly. Yeah, you played the game pretty well.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: I've got a pie that I'll eat around the hair. Yeah,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: and I also now get to wow, I had never
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: heard of this camera before. Yeah, I'm so excited to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: see what becomes of it. Yeah, the photos, I've got it.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: When I buy a roll of film, it takes me
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: for amfer to get through it.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: I used to be that way and now ever, so
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: it'll be like I go through a period where I'm
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: shooting so much and then I stop and I'm like, oh,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take my care.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: I've forgotten that there's like half the role used, which
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: is always so nice because I'm just like, what and
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: then you get to see.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Oh I love that face. Yeah, that's gotten memories. But
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: I'll try to power through within the next three months.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: I think that's a doable plan.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: I wish I had loaded up with film and then
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, just take one now, but I did not.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Just take eighteen now. Yeah, it's fine, Demie. I've had
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: such a wonderful time with you here. Thank you for
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: being here. And listener. Uh, you know the podcast is over.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: You've got to take care of yourself. You've got to
• 1:14:26
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• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: got to learn to fly and I believe you can
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: do that. If you can't, that's your problem. Take care
• 1:14:34
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• 1:14:58
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• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: the gifts?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: When you're a guess to my home, you gotta come
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guests, You're own presences,
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  Speaker 1: presents enough that I already had too much stuff, So
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: how do you dare to surbey me