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- 0:00There's been allegations against us going around and I don't like
- 0:04that. What does that mean?
- 0:05People seem to think they think it's funny.
- 0:07They think it's a funny thing to do to say that me and you have a
- 0:11podcast going on and I don't like that.
- 0:14I don't like that they're saying.
- 0:15Podcast. Yeah, they're saying that we do
- 0:17me and you, which is weird. Really.
- 0:20There's no evidence of that. First and foremost, I don't know
- 0:23why this is what they this is a lie things it's a lie.
- 0:26It's weird. It's weird.
- 0:27And I don't like a weird lie. And it freaks me out thinking
- 0:30that people are are demented enough to spread rumors like
- 0:33that. This is this, especially right
- 0:35now. Not a podcast.
- 0:38No, no, this is just what we do. You just happen to hit record.
- 0:42I just happen to hit record. You're a fly on the wall and you
- 0:47know me and you. We're doing our stuff.
- 0:48The people listening, watching. That's correct.
- 0:52They just stumbled upon this, this conversation me and you're
- 0:55having somehow, I don't know how they did it.
- 0:57Yeah, we're not going to get too into it.
- 0:59But I mean, honestly, people just need to relax.
- 1:02They need to relax a little bit. And if you're wondering, you and
- 1:05I stopped procrastinating, but other people are currently
- 1:10procrastinating. Does that make sense to you?
- 1:14I don't know what you're saying entirely, but I think we can
- 1:17find out. But also we did if people want
- 1:20to see what a podcast actually is.
- 1:23I remember when that happened. Is that what you're talking
- 1:25about? That's exactly what I would have
- 1:28been talking about. Dude, I've got it now.
- 1:30Thank you. But here's another thing,
- 1:33another thing we need to talk about some I, I know we're going
- 1:35to have a few class clowns here pointing out the fact that it
- 1:40has to be a podcast because it's on Spotify, but they need to
- 1:45understand that's like that's that's a doing that that's a
- 1:48myth, That's personal. You, you told me yesterday.
- 1:51I love talking to myself and sometimes other people and
- 1:55uploading it to Spotify. Yeah, that's just a.
- 1:57Thing, but then I but then I, I remember, 'cause you, you and I
- 2:00got into a big argument. You're like, yeah, I, I said
- 2:03like a podcast and you said I'm gonna kill you in your sleep if
- 2:07you bring that up again. I haven't brought it up since.
- 2:11Yeah, because I'm a good friend. I'm a good friend.
- 2:13For that, and I'm a good friend for saying stuff like that to
- 2:15you especially. I like when I say stuff like
- 2:17that, but it's a personal matter.
- 2:19The fact that this is going on Spotify, it's a personal thing.
- 2:22If I try to explain it, no one would understand because it's
- 2:25for me, so I'm not going to. Try It's just you, me and this
- 2:28camera in between us. There's only This is the same
- 2:31camera too. It's just one camera getting
- 2:32both of us. It's just one camera.
- 2:34It's technology is awesome. We're in the same room.
- 2:36But the reason this is happening is we just, we, we were in a
- 2:40different country. It happened to be the same
- 2:43country that Jag X is from. And while we were there, we're
- 2:47like, let's discuss this behind closed doors when we get back.
- 2:51And that's basically what this is.
- 2:53You're saying discuss the things that we couldn't have discussed
- 2:56in the NDA, but like we're talking about it.
- 2:59We're both, you know. We may or may.
- 3:01Not we were both there. Today, yeah.
- 3:03No, the NDA could. Be there.
- 3:05There's always a chance. There's always a chance.
- 3:07There's always a. Chance how those work.
- 3:09There's always a chance. If you don't read them, it's you
- 3:11have to read them. I didn't read It's a good thing
- 3:13to read in NDA. Signed it, had no idea what it
- 3:16said. Not a clue.
- 3:17So dude, why not? It's fucked up.
- 3:19What? I actually did read that entire
- 3:22thing. Like you read the entire NDA.
- 3:24I read the entire NDA, yeah. Does that make me fucked up or
- 3:29no? It makes you extremely smart.
- 3:30I should probably start doing things like that more 'cause I
- 3:33don't. I didn't.
- 3:34Well, to be fair, I felt like an idiot 'cause I was looking
- 3:37around. Not a single other person read
- 3:39that shit. No, I sat there and I read I
- 3:41dude, I literally did that thing where like you reread something
- 3:43'cause you're like, I don't fully understand what I just
- 3:45read. So I did like the reread.
- 3:49Dude, I I didn't read a word. I think I even filled it out
- 3:54wrong the first time. I didn't even.
- 3:56Oh. I did fill it out wrong.
- 3:58I put the date wrong and I was like, you know what?
- 4:01They're gonna know what I mean by this.
- 4:02What do you mean you put the date wrong?
- 4:05Like I put the date in like America, you know, like, you
- 4:08know how America goes, like, you know, month, day, year.
- 4:12Yeah, I got it. I got to give this to them.
- 4:16Like, like after I signed it and I thought about it, I was like,
- 4:19you know, it actually makes way more sense that they do day,
- 4:21month, year because it's kind of like a nice build up of like
- 4:24like, oh, this day, month, year. Am I getting 30?
- 4:30You were. Thinking about that.
- 4:33Yeah, that's awesome, dude. Like, like if you looked at me
- 4:38in the moment, you probably could have actively seen like my
- 4:41brain like forming that connection and going.
- 4:43Oh, that's nice. I'm glad they did.
- 4:45That's. Nice.
- 4:46Appreciate the one thing here I appreciate is the way that they
- 4:49write this. You don't appreciate anything
- 4:52else. Yeah, no, I didn't do it that
- 4:55way. I wasn't going to do it that
- 4:56way. No, I wasn't either.
- 4:57Clearly, no way. But we did that that we did go
- 5:01to Jag X and I feel like there's a lot of stuff that we got to
- 5:04talk about. It's very important that we talk
- 5:06about a lot of this stuff. Rates 5 they're skipping over
- 5:08the 4th they're skipping they don't care about that one
- 5:11they're. Skipping the fourth rate, which
- 5:12is weird, yeah, very weird. But let's let's start from the
- 5:17beginning. Let's let's go back.
- 5:21But they invited a bunch of people out and it was kind of
- 5:26out of nowhere. And we didn't know why we were
- 5:29going out to what we were doing until we got there.
- 5:33Basically, like they said, hey, do you want to come here for the
- 5:3825th anniversary? And we're like, yeah sure, we
- 5:41went all the way up until like 2 days before without knowing a
- 5:45single thing of what they were gonna have us do there.
- 5:47They could have been asking us to go there so they could kill
- 5:49us all. I have no idea.
- 5:52But we we're fine clearly. But.
- 5:54Yeah, we just. Kind of left this like
- 5:56mysterious sort of vibe the whole time and really like that
- 6:00but. Dude, I literally did not know
- 6:03what was happening until like I would say the first night we got
- 6:09there and I asked like one of the Jag X mods, like in person.
- 6:14I was like, do you know what we're doing?
- 6:16And to be fair, they work at the company and you would think,
- 6:20yeah, of course they work there. They know what they're doing.
- 6:22I actually found out they didn't even know what's happening until
- 6:24like a week before. Yeah.
- 6:27The one I talked to, I, I'll it's, it was Goblin mod Goblin.
- 6:31I talked to him. He didn't know what we were
- 6:33doing. When I asked him, he was the
- 6:35first person I asked and he didn't know yet because he's
- 6:38doing other stuff. He's busy.
- 6:39Wait, we're skipping ahead. We had to fly there first.
- 6:42I think everyone knows that though.
- 6:44Everyone knows that you fly there.
- 6:45Think we sailed there, which is not true.
- 6:48We didn't do. That OK, that's a weird
- 6:50conclusion. A jump.
- 6:50Centuries have passed since. That we don't do that anymore.
- 6:54Yeah, we don't do that. No one.
- 6:55Does that more. We're not shipping cargo and
- 6:57does shit like that. Nothing in particular weird
- 6:59happened on my flight. But like I did one of those
- 7:02things where it's like I always get like economy and like, you
- 7:06know, I'm a little tall so I don't fit in it.
- 7:08So like right before, because it was like a red eye, I was like,
- 7:11I got to upgrade my seat. Yeah, I did like the little
- 7:14upgrade to like economy plus no one was in my row.
- 7:17I was so excited. I was like, maybe I can lay down
- 7:19and sleep. And they have one of those, one
- 7:23of those, like, solid plastic dividers in between the seats.
- 7:26Yeah. So like, I ended up having to,
- 7:29like, contort myself, like a pretzel only to sleep about 7
- 7:32minutes. So nothing cool happened on my
- 7:34flight. Like just garbage stuff.
- 7:36I think I also got 7 or 8 minutes of sleep, which is fine.
- 7:41It was just long. It was a long, yeah.
- 7:42I had no Wi-Fi on it. It was like barbaric barbarian.
- 7:46Time I always, I always raw dog that like I never go for Wi-Fi.
- 7:50I'm like, you're not convincing me to spend $13 for something I
- 7:54should have for free. You know, we're in the the age
- 7:57of man where we have figured out how to fly through the fucking
- 8:01sky in a metal tube and they still crammed us in there.
- 8:06And then they charge you $13 for Wi-Fi.
- 8:08Like how? How fucked up is that?
- 8:11It's pretty fucked up, yeah. We should feel really excited to
- 8:14be flying and instead like we're just shoved in there like we're
- 8:18cattle. Yeah, it's really disrespectful
- 8:20the way that they fly us places, the way we travel.
- 8:23Half the globe, the Earth, the star in the sky.
- 8:27Not star. What is it, planet?
- 8:28We're a planet. Yeah, us being humanity, I
- 8:31believe you meant. That's us.
- 8:32We're the ones. That's us.
- 8:34And. They fly dogs though.
- 8:37Horses dude. I found that they do fly horses.
- 8:40What? Yeah, I did find out they fly
- 8:43horses. I don't like that knowing that
- 8:44there could be a horse underneath me at any moment, I.
- 8:47Don't like that. I don't think it's gonna be.
- 8:49I don't think it's like on your plane normally.
- 8:52I don't think there's any horses on you.
- 8:53You think they gather them in like in like C1 thirties?
- 8:57They just like line them up with their military.
- 9:00Yeah, exactly. And then they just drop them
- 9:02out. Sometimes it's just a test
- 9:03whenever they have extra horses lying around.
- 9:06What do you mean they drop them out to test?
- 9:08Sometimes they just let them go, you know what I mean?
- 9:11Like every now and then people have extra horses and they're
- 9:13like, we need to test some shit, but they just let the horses
- 9:17drop. Why?
- 9:19When they they see. What are they testing?
- 9:22There's a lot of different shit. You could, OK, like, I guarantee
- 9:26up until probably like five years ago, no one would have
- 9:29dropped a horse out of of a plane.
- 9:31That's just not something you would have done.
- 9:32And now, like, you know, one person does, like, we have to
- 9:35fucking figure out what happens. They figured it out.
- 9:37And they're like, that wasn't conclusive enough.
- 9:39So they probably do it, like, regularly.
- 9:42I just don't see how to experiment.
- 9:43Benefits. I don't I don't understand the
- 9:45benefit of that experiment, what that could.
- 9:47Possibly science up close. Science up close is messy
- 9:51sometimes. I think we all know this.
- 9:52You got to break a few eggs sometimes and make an omelette.
- 9:55That's basically what they're doing here with the horses.
- 9:58They're breaking a few horses to make a horse omelette.
- 10:02But yeah, my, my flight, you know, was not that good.
- 10:05It was not that good. I did not sleep for a day.
- 10:08No, I didn't like my flight. And then not to mention, you
- 10:13know, first of all this flight was, was free.
- 10:16The one I'm complaining about. Also the thing that also this,
- 10:20the next free thing was the ride.
- 10:23It was actually me flooding and sick nerd in a car.
- 10:28We all got picked up. I think sick nerd had to wait
- 10:30like 3 hours to get picked up because they were waiting for us
- 10:34and so he was just chilling there.
- 10:35I didn't even recognize Sick Nerd because he looks good.
- 10:38Yeah, he's a good looking dude now.
- 10:40I just felt bad because we talked to him for the first like
- 10:4225 minutes in the car and then me and Flutten were so insanely
- 10:47tired we both just collapsed and fell asleep for the rest of the
- 10:51car ride. So he was sitting in silence
- 10:54with the driver for about two hours, 15 minutes in traffic,
- 11:00and we just were completely silent.
- 11:02And there's nothing I could do about it.
- 11:05I. I, I was mainly with the Wow
- 11:07guys and like foe, right? I, I had to sit in the front.
- 11:11They, we got like a giant van. I think there was like like 5 or
- 11:156 of us or whatever. Everyone was having like a great
- 11:18time talking in the back. They were, you know, it's like a
- 11:212 hour drive from the airport to there.
- 11:24And the entire time, you know, again, I got 7 minutes of sleep.
- 11:28Maybe I was crunched up like a pretzel on this plane.
- 11:32I'm doing doing one of these every every couple minutes.
- 11:36Like, yeah, yeah, that's great. And then my like, my neck ends
- 11:39up hurting so bad that like I just take myself out of the
- 11:42conversation for like 20 minutes at a time.
- 11:45And I was like, they probably think I'm so fucking like weird
- 11:48or just rude because, you know, they're all talking, having a
- 11:51good time. Like I'm like, yeah, that sounds
- 11:53great. Yeah, well.
- 11:55You have I just like kept to myself.
- 11:57You have a responsibility, dude. Yeah, like you're, you're riding
- 12:00shotgun. It's your responsibility to seem
- 12:02calm and composed for the driver while they handled the
- 12:05discussions. That's.
- 12:06You're. I did talk to the driver, dude.
- 12:09I don't think I remember a single word we exchanged, but I
- 12:11talked to for 20 minutes. Yeah, You don't need to
- 12:13remember. He was a nice enough guy.
- 12:15Yeah, dude, like, kind of like everyone like that was flown out
- 12:20to this event. Pretty nice people like.
- 12:23You think so? Yeah, I don't know why you would
- 12:26necessarily expect otherwise, but like literally everyone I
- 12:31met, I did not have a bad thing to say about.
- 12:34Yeah, no, I was. I was on edge trying to find if
- 12:37there was someone I should be wary of, but I couldn't.
- 12:40You were. Looking for threats?
- 12:41I was looking for threats I was looking for for any potential
- 12:44confrontation that I should avoid.
- 12:47Couldn't find it, didn't find it the whole time.
- 12:50I was kind of disappointing. Didn't didn't make for any fun,
- 12:53you know, almost died stories or anything like that.
- 12:55But yeah, yeah, everyone was kind of just really friendly and
- 12:58nice and. Yeah, if you don't nearly die in
- 13:01an event, then it's really not worth talking about the event
- 13:04normally. Yeah.
- 13:05Well, that first night there, I think the biggest shocker to me,
- 13:09I didn't expect to have a really long nice conversation with the
- 13:15CEO of the company of Jag X that that was pretty shocking.
- 13:21He called me a prick within the 1st 30 seconds of meeting me.
- 13:25Dude, yeah. Which was awesome.
- 13:27It was, of course, joking. Dude in the first like 3 minutes
- 13:32he he called me two dads Kev. It's like I was like, that is a
- 13:37Runescape name that I had on one account and that was from like 7
- 13:41years ago. You're the CEO of the entire
- 13:44company. How the fuck do you know that?
- 13:47Why do you know that? 'Cause he knows all of us, dude.
- 13:50Dude and then like later on in the night, he's like talking
- 13:53about like my second channel, talking about like non Runescape
- 13:58videos that I made on that. It's like dude, like did you do
- 14:01a deep dive on me? Like are you about to tell me
- 14:04like like where I was fucking born in shit?
- 14:07Like dude, if I if you talked to him long enough, he probably
- 14:09would have. He probably would have dude no
- 14:11dude. Like he knew everything about
- 14:13everyone. He did.
- 14:14And it's like and that's like it was so surprising.
- 14:17And dude, he was like. Ridiculously nice.
- 14:21Yeah, Like, almost too nice, right?
- 14:23Almost. Almost like suspiciously nice.
- 14:25Like he's got. Someone suspiciously nice.
- 14:27Yeah. But then but then he said like,
- 14:29I feel like I know you all, but this is like some weird
- 14:32parasocial thing. So like, you know, even even
- 14:35though he's like a dude that like has like a lot of like
- 14:37self-confidence, that kind of like struck me as like he's like
- 14:40a like get to meet everyone type of thing dude.
- 14:45Yeah, no, I felt. Almost like a child.
- 14:46Like Wonder. Yeah.
- 14:48Yeah, I felt very powerful. Well, the first thing he said to
- 14:51me, the actual first thing he said to me was, holy shit, it's
- 14:54Gary Gilbert. So I was like, that's nice that
- 14:56you know that. Yeah, that's really cool that he
- 14:58knows that. I do need to clarify, since I
- 15:01didn't get to finish saying that he called me a prick.
- 15:03He was just really telling a funny, like he was just having a
- 15:07little funny thing to say to me because we were talking about
- 15:12the, the Runescape 3 MTX announcement and the fact that
- 15:15they had this like big build up. They had like fucking Hollywood
- 15:18trailers building up the biggest announcement of all time in the
- 15:21history of Runescape, like hyping it up.
- 15:24Like you would have thought Runescape 4 was coming.
- 15:26Like it was going to be the craziest shit ever.
- 15:28And all they did was we're pulling the removal of of
- 15:32treasure hunter keys. And I was like, I commented on
- 15:36the video of that. I just said, just get rid of it.
- 15:38What are you guys doing? And it got like a ton of it got
- 15:42a ton of like thumbs up on YouTube.
- 15:44And I was like, OK, that yeah, I don't regret saying that.
- 15:48And he was like basically saying how crazy of a thing it was for
- 15:53Jag X to do that. He was like, and then you go and
- 15:55just comment that, you prick. I was like, yeah, sorry, dude.
- 16:00I said what? I said, I don't know, man.
- 16:02And. Then finding out like the, like
- 16:06the behind the scenes kind of like you were saying, like how
- 16:09hard he had to fight for that. He's like, when he became like
- 16:12CEO, like, like I, I think that was one of the like the main
- 16:16things he really wanted to fight for.
- 16:18Yeah. He was always trying to do that,
- 16:20yeah. Yeah, so and he was like, you
- 16:22know, really building this up and it kind of like he wanted it
- 16:25to be this like this huge thing. And then like, like before I
- 16:29talked to him and like, because I I also saw your comment too.
- 16:32I thought it was funny. And like, in my mind, I was
- 16:34there's not a shot in hell. People are gonna vote now.
- 16:37Let's keep it in. They know the outcome that's
- 16:40gonna happen. Yeah.
- 16:41So I was kind of on your side too, of just fucking remove it.
- 16:46What do you mean? But then after seeing him in
- 16:49person, you kind of forget. It's like there's a real people
- 16:52on the other side of this that are really like they, they put a
- 16:56lot of effort into this. You you just wipe away like like
- 17:00months of work with one common. Like yeah, just fucking remove
- 17:03it. Yeah, well, I think we, we see
- 17:05that obviously because we we met them and stuff.
- 17:06But I mean, I ultimately, you know, the consumer, the player
- 17:11here, they will never ever consider the fact that there's
- 17:16humans behind it, not just for Jag X, but like any company, any
- 17:19product they're using, any game they're playing.
- 17:22Like, it's not the consumers really like responsibility to be
- 17:28concerned about any, yeah, be concerned about really anything
- 17:31except for what they're paying to experience sort of thing.
- 17:34So that's the truth. Yeah, that is that's.
- 17:36Ultimately what it comes down to, So I mean, like, I I mean, I
- 17:39said it at the table to Maude NI was like, yeah, I don't regret
- 17:42saying that. Like I'm sorry, dude.
- 17:44Like, I mean, it's gone. Clearly, you know, you guys had
- 17:47to kind of present it for many, you know, behind the scenes
- 17:52investors reasons, you know, you had to, you know, make a
- 17:55spectacle out of it, Sure, But you know, I I'm still going to
- 18:00say that just fucking get rid of it.
- 18:03Just just relax, dude, Just just get it.
- 18:05Don't even pull it. Why even pull it?
- 18:06No one wants that shit there. Like if you don't remove it, the
- 18:09game just it's just gone soon. So you know, what are you doing?
- 18:13But I'm glad they did take the step because it was just pretty
- 18:16hype listening to them talk about all the shit they're
- 18:18doing. I'll say this, by the way, What?
- 18:21I don't even think it's like, oh wait, actually what?
- 18:27I don't even know if I could actually say that one.
- 18:29Well, say it and I'll say it if you can't.
- 18:32So say it and then yeah, like Runescape 3 leagues or no, Like,
- 18:36did they talk about that? Yeah, they.
- 18:37Talked about it in the yeah yeah Runescape 3.
- 18:40Leagues so that that's like a a public thing.
- 18:42Yeah, yeah, they they announced that they're doing Runescape
- 18:44leagues too, like they do. You remember that video we got
- 18:47shown in the auditorium? Auditorium, yeah.
- 18:51They should they publish that. That's all public now, like
- 18:53everything we saw there. OK, Yeah.
- 18:55All right. Yeah.
- 18:56To be fair, I feel like it's also obvious that they would
- 18:59have done another one. Yeah.
- 19:00If they successfully pull off what they're trying to pull off
- 19:04in Runescape three, I think I would play leagues, too.
- 19:07I didn't play the first one, but I think I'd play it with you and
- 19:10you know, see how it goes. Yeah, well, I noticed on their
- 19:13leagues slide like I don't know what how much I can say about
- 19:17this because it was like for us like, but they watched my video
- 19:22basically is what I confirmed. I think they did talk a little
- 19:25bit about the stuff during the like video that they they
- 19:29posted, but they addressed almost every single point that I
- 19:33brought up about that league. They just they really just need
- 19:36to make it the most disgustingly overpowered game mode of all
- 19:40time. Like they need to make it
- 19:41stupid. Like even if they make it so
- 19:43that you could finish everything day one or day 2, just clear
- 19:48everything because of how fast it is.
- 19:50They need to do that because their goal is to get people to
- 19:52just play it for a second like you need membership to play it.
- 19:56So that's. That's true.
- 19:58I mean, The thing is if I was sitting there and wiping out
- 20:02every single thing in that game like leagues, I would try it
- 20:06yeah like I would try it cuz it's like I don't know the first
- 20:09thing about like any abilities and I I do understand cuz you
- 20:13had a whole thing about this in your video.
- 20:15You know, technically just point and click yeah, I know that I
- 20:19get that yeah. But at the same time, I feel as
- 20:23though I would not really be utilizing.
- 20:26The entire system and I really want to understand what I'm
- 20:30doing, you know, with all of those abilities.
- 20:33Basically the only thing I know about is ults because you know
- 20:37Valorant unfortunately. Well, do you remember when we
- 20:43were at dinner the the Runescape three guys sitting next to us,
- 20:45they were saying that like they don't even know what's going on
- 20:48with fucking Runescape 3 abilities.
- 20:51Like they play it for a living and they are doing that content
- 20:54and they'll see some like super high end PVM shit and they're
- 20:57like I don't know what's going on like.
- 20:59Yeah, they're like, it's fun to play, but like visually, like
- 21:03who knows what the fuck's going on?
- 21:05Even they said that because like they released like a mask it
- 21:08right in Runescape 3 and I was like, oh, I know that one let me
- 21:12go look right. And their their whole thing was
- 21:14like the first person to beat it at 2000 difficulty, which I
- 21:18don't know what the fuck that even means, but sure.
- 21:21Congrats. Yeah, You know, I thought
- 21:23percentage just only go up to 100, but whatever, you can go
- 21:26past that. I I get what you're going for.
- 21:29Numbers don't matter anymore. They don't matter anymore.
- 21:30Maybe that's a weird hill for me to die on, but yeah, I'm not
- 21:34even willing to die on it. I'm willing to be corrected
- 21:36immediately. Point being, like when I was
- 21:39watching that, like there was like a 12 or 13 hour stream of
- 21:44like the world's like first, there was so much excitement in
- 21:47the beginning of the stream, right?
- 21:49And like, I just like kind of kept coming back to it, you
- 21:51know, throughout the day. I, I don't know exactly how long
- 21:55it took. Maybe I'm making this number up,
- 21:57but it was like 10 or 11 hours or something, Maybe 12 hours.
- 22:01Point being the energy was gone halfway through the stream and
- 22:06then there was another 6 fucking hours on top of that.
- 22:10Like I felt bad for because it was like a J mod and I think
- 22:14also maybe the artist guy was the one doing it.
- 22:19No, maybe not. I'm I'm not sure it's it's been
- 22:22a minute, but like just watching what was happening, like I was
- 22:25like, I would love to understand what's going on, but there's not
- 22:28a shot in hell that I would understand even when there was
- 22:31like shit on the floor happening.
- 22:33I'm like, yeah, like I I get, I've put, you know, old school
- 22:36has that. Don't stand there.
- 22:37No fucking. Clue.
- 22:38No clue. I was like like Lightning's
- 22:41going through and then some of them ran into it.
- 22:43I was like, oh, that's the good one I guess.
- 22:45Yeah. But I, I do think they are
- 22:47trying to improve upon that. Like what?
- 22:49They're a little road map, which is which is cool.
- 22:51Yeah, but. You know, until then I don't
- 22:54know what the fucks going on man.
- 22:56And it might just stay that way. Didn't it kind of seem like like
- 23:00the old school, everyone from old school was there for like
- 23:02this leisure fun time. But it felt like, 'cause you
- 23:07know, the Runescape three guys, they stayed an extra day like at
- 23:09Jack's for more workshops. It felt like those guys were
- 23:12there to like, get down to business, like get, get dirty,
- 23:16get their hands dirty. Paid.
- 23:17Help unpaid fucking just try like clawing and scratching
- 23:23desperation mode like we need your guys help please God help
- 23:27us. And that's what they did.
- 23:29They they literally had a whole extra day own workshop things
- 23:33and and all that. It was 2 entirely different
- 23:36things happening between the two games at the.
- 23:39I could be wrong, maybe they were just having a bunch of fun,
- 23:41but from outside view kind of looked like they were getting
- 23:45serious about things in their their rooms.
- 23:47Yeah, I mean, to be fair, they're doing like an entire
- 23:50rework, yeah, of that entire game.
- 23:53Yeah, they're not. They have to, yeah.
- 23:55Yeah, they're, they're talking about like redoing the character
- 23:58faces when they they got to that section of like, you know, we're
- 24:03redoing faces of guys. You know, I was like, is this
- 24:08really that big of a problem? And then all of like the
- 24:10Runescape, three guys in the room were so happy about it and
- 24:13I was like. I was happy about it too.
- 24:15Yeah, I always have fun at the. Player models, were they like
- 24:19just that fugly? I don't get.
- 24:20It they're terrible. Oh my God, they're so bad dude.
- 24:23I made fun of them almost every time I talk about Runescape 3.
- 24:26Like I there's so much disgustingness happening.
- 24:30The player models they're the same as they were or when EOC
- 24:32dropped like they they haven't changed.
- 24:34So I guess Runescape three maybe.
- 24:36I don't know when the last like true remodel of them are, but 14
- 24:40years, Yeah, it's been so long and they look terrible.
- 24:44And they just haven't changed it.
- 24:45No, they it doesn't fit what's going on anymore, so wow be.
- 24:49Fair, when you made that one girl character hate it.
- 24:54I didn't hate it. Yeah, Jet from Val, whatever you
- 24:57called yourself. Jet from CS GO, yeah.
- 24:59Jet from CS GO, yeah. And then there was pretty sluts
- 25:03was my my next one, and that would that one who she got a lot
- 25:07of free stuff. A lot of free stuff A.
- 25:10Lot of free stuff. That was awesome.
- 25:11Crazy cool name by the way. Pretty sluts.
- 25:14Yeah, I'm very happy. Did you get?
- 25:15Any comments about that or did everyone just pretend like, you
- 25:18know it just wasn't a thing? Like it was just the not only
- 25:21elephant in the room. People commented about it.
- 25:23People recognized me in Runescape Three with that name
- 25:26after that video. Really.
- 25:27Yeah. Yeah.
- 25:28It was crazy. Yeah.
- 25:29I was like, I'm glad I did this for myself.
- 25:31I'm glad that's that's an alternate name that I have here
- 25:35now. How much money did you get from
- 25:38people giving you stuff? Hundreds of millions of GP,
- 25:41which I know isn't like a crazy thing, right?
- 25:44It's like nothing in that game. Like you get 300 mil on Old
- 25:48School Runescape, You're like, I can do basically everything I
- 25:50want to do. You get 300 mil on that game.
- 25:54I actually remember from one, like we played fresh starts.
- 25:57Yeah, like, like I, I really wanted to have like a double,
- 26:02you know, that like a little ability of a go weren't like
- 26:04like really fast. You can do like the double, like
- 26:07forward, the forward dash thing, the Runescape three.
- 26:09Yeah, I, I was like, I really want to get that.
- 26:12That'd be sick. And I remember it's like, you
- 26:15know, to do that you need to like have a codex or something.
- 26:18I don't know, Whatever it is, I'm sure I'm butchering it and
- 26:20maybe I'm misremembering, but. I remember how it works now
- 26:24they've changed it so you just need like 10 agility or some
- 26:27shit but. Well, that's cool.
- 26:29But yeah, like, like for, for that double dash, maybe I'm
- 26:33making this number up, but I, I remember it being something like
- 26:36120 mil and I had like 39 mil and I was like, I thought I
- 26:41would be able. This is just a go forward twice.
- 26:44Yeah. And that, that that's all this
- 26:46is. But I I did enjoy fresh start
- 26:48worlds when they did happen though.
- 26:49Yeah, that was really fun. That was really fun.
- 26:52You're supposed to be talking about a trip though, aren't we?
- 26:54Yeah, I guess so, I guess. All right.
- 26:56So here's the thing. We were talking about breaking
- 26:58an NDA earlier, and I don't want to say we're going to be
- 27:05breaking the NDA because legally that could cause problems.
- 27:08But I'm going to say like this, we may or may not in the next 10
- 27:12minutes break the NDAII just have a lot of cool stuff that I
- 27:17remember being seeing in their presentation that I just, I'm so
- 27:22excited about it. I have to tell people.
- 27:24I have to tell them somewhere. So.
- 27:26Absolutely. And there was one and there was
- 27:271 crazy like fucked up thing that I remember seeing.
- 27:32I'll let you go first. I will let you go first.
- 27:35OK, All right. First things first.
- 27:40Player models on old school finally getting a boob slider
- 27:45which is huge to. Be fair.
- 27:48They're not going crazy. You know what?
- 27:51I. Mean.
- 27:51Yeah, it's like. Realistic There's room, there's
- 27:54room. They're going from A to like, I
- 27:58don't know, it seemed reasonable, like double DI think
- 28:02they're like just for fun. He was triple FI was like,
- 28:04that's fucking crazy. Yeah, we needed it.
- 28:07So I'm glad they're doing it. I I was talking to Aiza and
- 28:10Sween about this actually, and they were the ones who actually
- 28:13pushed this to the front. So they really, they were
- 28:16enthusiastic about this. Side note, they had some crazy,
- 28:21you know, back and forth. Am I remembering that correctly?
- 28:24I mean, you tell me. I feel like this wouldn't be
- 28:26under NDA. You can tell me what if you
- 28:28remember this. Back and forth between what
- 28:29about this subject? No no, like that.
- 28:32They got like really angry with each other.
- 28:34There was like a fist. Ohh.
- 28:35That yes, yeah. In the lunch, in the.
- 28:37Cafeteria. Wasn't long like Sweens really
- 28:40buff right? So he's like he's towering over
- 28:42Aisa and his his voice is just so strong and it is really I
- 28:49felt bad for he's the way he was just.
- 28:52I thought he was going to break him in half.
- 28:54Yeah, that was awesome. Break him in half.
- 28:55Yeah, apparently it's just a regular thing that those two
- 28:57guys do. But but I think the argument was
- 28:59over the boob slider, which is the craziest thing.
- 29:01They they were like, where do we draw the line?
- 29:04And that's what got them into that I.
- 29:06Remember them agreeing too. Yeah, that was the weird thing
- 29:08about it is they were like on the same.
- 29:10Arguing and they agreed. I think it's just one of those
- 29:13things. It's just like, you know, you
- 29:15could get heated at work sometimes.
- 29:18Yeah. It was a culture shock to me.
- 29:20Yeah. But for them, it was just a
- 29:22Tuesday in the office. It.
- 29:24Was really weird to see, but I liked it a little bit.
- 29:26Side note, you know, what's it the this movie?
- 29:32It's a classic movie. It's like my name is Indigo
- 29:34Montoya. You killed my father.
- 29:35What's that movie? Do you know that?
- 29:37The Princess Bride. The Princess.
- 29:39Yeah. The Princess Bride.
- 29:41Yes, The Princess Bride. Dude, tell me.
- 29:45Because I I brought this up to Sween to his face, and I used it
- 29:48too. It was after their fight.
- 29:50And I was like, you know, has anyone ever told you that you
- 29:55look like the main guy from The Princess Bride?
- 29:58He's also in Robin Hood too. I forget you know the actor's
- 30:01name. Yeah.
- 30:02Yeah. I was like, has anyone ever told
- 30:03you you look exactly like him? He's like, no, it's only been
- 30:06you. And I'm like, I find that hard
- 30:08to believe. This is what he looks like the
- 30:10entire movie. You're gonna tell me that guy's
- 30:13not even related to swing, OK. Am I right?
- 30:17It looks like it could be like his uncle or something.
- 30:19Yeah, he does look like he's. Blood related.
- 30:21That is bloodline right there. That is blood related.
- 30:25It doesn't need to be him exactly.
- 30:26They at the very least see each other every Christmas.
- 30:30Like you cannot change my mind. That is absolutely.
- 30:33You might be right, Speaking of the next very real truthful
- 30:36thing that we heard about. The next leagues.
- 30:39The name of the next leagues, Thumple.
- 30:42Thumple Rock, I believe, and I don't know what that means.
- 30:45I don't know what that includes. Thumple Rock.
- 30:47Thumple Rock. It was a it's a cool name, but I
- 30:50don't know what that could possibly be.
- 30:52It might have. Something to do?
- 30:54It might have something to do with the new skill digging.
- 31:00Dude, you're going. You have to cut this out.
- 31:03You're going to be sued out the fucking ass.
- 31:06I just I'm not taking part in it.
- 31:07I, I'm not very excited about it.
- 31:09I'm very excited about it. I don't.
- 31:11You are. But dude, OK, yes, we got the
- 31:13play test. Digging for two days.
- 31:15It was fucking sick. I found a mine and I dug out the
- 31:20entire thing. 46 rubies in my bank explosive.
- 31:23Mine right like. No, that was yours.
- 31:27I just found like a normal. Mine explosive.
- 31:28I found like claymores buried under the ground like like
- 31:31bouncing betties and shit. Yeah, I was digging those up,
- 31:34Yeah. Be fair, OK, It looks like a
- 31:36bouncing Betty, but it's like old, old Lord.
- 31:38It's like, 'cause there's like the, the, the fifth age, there's
- 31:41like castles and shit. There's no technology, dude.
- 31:43It looks like a bouncing Betty. I'm willing to give you that,
- 31:46but I'm sure they call this something else.
- 31:49Yeah, they sure they called it something else.
- 31:50It was like a purple, like unfinished asset that they,
- 31:54yeah, couldn't see the whole thing.
- 31:56But you found a mine though. That's kind of cool.
- 31:58You know, like, you know, where the dwarves go type of thing.
- 32:00This was a new mine A. New one, you know.
- 32:03Yeah, they called it Minerville. I said I don't really want to be
- 32:06here after I heard that they. Shouldn't call it Minerville.
- 32:09That's not a good. Name for that place.
- 32:10It's not a good name. And to be fair, I left the
- 32:13moment that I heard the name. One of the dwarfs is like
- 32:16welcome to Minorville. And then like I turned to AJ
- 32:19models, like is that why is he saying that?
- 32:21He's like, that's just the name of the.
- 32:22Town that's got to be like a stand in.
- 32:24Surely they're not keeping it as that?
- 32:26No, no, he said. This is final.
- 32:28This is. He's like a lot of things are.
- 32:30Subject. He said a lot of things are
- 32:32subject to change. This is final.
- 32:34This is one of those very few things.
- 32:35This is final. I got out of there.
- 32:38I got out of there immediately. Like I, I, I made sure to click
- 32:41on the exit and then I physically got up and I left
- 32:45from the computer. I did not go back.
- 32:47I did not go back to that computer.
- 32:49Yeah, I don't blame you for that.
- 32:50That's I They got to do something.
- 32:53Someone's got to snap them back to reality.
- 32:55That's not a good name. What did you think about the the
- 32:59new game mode? They were calling Fuck my slug,
- 33:03Fuck my slug life. It's like where you run around
- 33:09the map, you're constantly being chased by a slug.
- 33:12Like my slug? It's and they said it's like
- 33:15going to be a lot faster than the slugs that we know.
- 33:19What do you mean I don't know many?
- 33:21Slugs. I thought you were listening
- 33:22when they said that. Fuck my.
- 33:23Slug, I was. I was.
- 33:26But like I legitimately until you brought this up now I was.
- 33:28I thought I misheard that. I thought I misheard a lot of.
- 33:31No, I wrote it down. I made sure I was listening.
- 33:33Dude, I. It's really to be fair, I
- 33:36thought you were like a little weird for bringing a notepad and
- 33:38sitting there writing fucking notes.
- 33:40But now I kind of. Get why why you were doing.
- 33:44Information and I knew I needed to take notes, 'cause I wanted
- 33:47to talk about this. I wanted to be the first you
- 33:48hear. About it Slug Life.
- 33:51Yeah. Dedicated service.
- 33:52You're sure that's what they said?
- 33:54I'm you're sure that's what they said?
- 33:55I'm positive I even I recorded it.
- 33:58I have recordings of them saying this.
- 34:00Of course I'm never gonna, and this wasn't.
- 34:02Just a game jam, right? No, this was during their
- 34:04presentation of like future updates.
- 34:06Fuck my slug life. It's coming back.
- 34:09I do remember seeing a slug and like, dude, what, what, what was
- 34:14it? It was, I think it was like
- 34:17Maude Rice. He was like, like he was really
- 34:19proud of it. Dude.
- 34:20He was like, like the slug moves 3 ticks every three ticks.
- 34:25Yeah. And I was like, and I remember
- 34:26someone asking and is like, is that speed up from 5 ticks?
- 34:31And he said like, like he looked there.
- 34:32He gave like one of these. He kind of.
- 34:34He's like, yeah. Yeah, he's very.
- 34:38He's an enthusiastic guy from. 5 ticks to three.
- 34:40He did. He did one of these.
- 34:41He did one of these. You know what I mean?
- 34:43Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that.
- 34:45It was it was nice. It was real nice.
- 34:48But like, the energy he brought to that presentation, I was
- 34:52like, I'm. I'm just happy that he's up
- 34:54there. Yeah.
- 34:55He's living the dream. He knows he's really stupid.
- 34:58He knows his slugs. Yeah.
- 34:59And that's why I appreciate most about him.
- 35:02Yeah, I, I, I really think so. That Fuck my slug life.
- 35:07You know, I'm hearing this for the second time, thinking that's
- 35:11not a good name. Yeah, but it's all coming wrong.
- 35:15I think it'll work. I think people will really like
- 35:17that. Yeah.
- 35:20Yeah. So I they, I know they touched
- 35:22on this too. This is what I was.
- 35:25I mean, I don't know how I feel about it, but they said
- 35:27Runescape 3, they're going to be removing microtransactions, yeah
- 35:32and replacing them with huge fucking transactions, which is
- 35:35crazy of them to say. I.
- 35:39Fuck it, I get it. I fucking get it, dude.
- 35:42Like, if you're gonna fucking commit to a change, might as
- 35:45well make more money in the fucking process.
- 35:47Yeah, I I was like, I that's, I respect that telling everyone
- 35:51you're removing the micro. Transactions.
- 35:54The huge. Fucking transactions are coming,
- 35:56the huge transactions. I just realized that we were
- 35:58telling the stories prior to this NDA thing, and people are
- 36:04really going to have to think hard about what we're saying is
- 36:07true and what's not. Because.
- 36:10We definitely told some true stories at the start.
- 36:12And in the middle. Maybe even in the middle
- 36:15somewhere, who knows? I want to talk about my favorite
- 36:19moment. This is the truth.
- 36:20This is an actual truth. This is a real thing that
- 36:25happened. So Jag X took us to this
- 36:28restaurant and you know, we get there, we got there late.
- 36:34We they were so far behind because of how many of us there
- 36:37were. There was like 80 people.
- 36:39So we get hauled to this restaurant like group by group.
- 36:43I think they were just like calling Ubers or something to
- 36:45get us there and there's only so.
- 36:46Many it was not as efficient as you think it would be.
- 36:49No, no, they should have just gotten us a big old bus.
- 36:53Just a huge, maybe 2, maybe two big old buses or something.
- 36:55Ironically, like when we came out of the hotel and we saw the
- 36:59like a giant bus that was just sitting right there.
- 37:00I was like, that's cool. They got us like one of those
- 37:02like double deckers and then I watched it pull off and I was
- 37:05like, guys, it's not for us. I know, yes.
- 37:06We're not going in that thing. That was not for us, that thing.
- 37:10But we got there super late. So like, like I think it was, it
- 37:14was like Bodie Stefan. It was like 40 minutes late.
- 37:17It was. Like 40 minutes late and they're
- 37:19already sat down, like all the chairs already taken up.
- 37:23Stefan kept you a seat. And yeah, not us, not me.
- 37:29That was, that was sweet of him, that was.
- 37:31Sweet of him to completely just forget that I was there in the
- 37:35UK. It's fine.
- 37:37Be fair. The moment you said you're not
- 37:39doing Guillenora games like he shot you a fucking look, I knew
- 37:42it. I knew from then on there like
- 37:43you were. You wanted me killed, Yeah.
- 37:45You were a dead Dome. That's.
- 37:46Fine, I understand that. Anyway, we're at the very end of
- 37:49this table. We're with the, the guys that
- 37:51were just now meeting like the Runescape 3 fellas and I got, I
- 37:56don't really know them and they look like they're exhausted.
- 37:58They, they were like, I got, I sat down, they were all on their
- 38:01phones and I was like, guys, what's going on?
- 38:03You guys on your phones? Like let's here we go.
- 38:05And they're like, dude, we just talked for like 10 hours
- 38:08straight, man. Like, all right, I get that,
- 38:11dude. Like it's fine.
- 38:13So then like it was really silent.
- 38:14It was really silent until I begged you to come over and.
- 38:19Live in an You didn't come over, come over.
- 38:22I was like, dude, please, like I can't live in this area up by
- 38:27myself. Like everyone's on the verge of
- 38:30sleeping right now. It was basically just, it was me
- 38:35flooding Kraken sea engineer and Mike Guru.
- 38:40I think he is how you say it. Yeah.
- 38:43And then Mod Doom. And like, we're all like, you
- 38:47know, we're all talking, but everyone's just super tired.
- 38:51And so I was texting you like, dude, I'm going to fuck.
- 38:53I'm going to literally throw your food on the ground if you
- 38:55don't get over here. Like you need to get here now.
- 38:57Because I really wanted to talk to the Runescape Three guys, but
- 39:00I feel like I messed it up with my first sentence to them.
- 39:03I think they I got off on the wrong foot them by saying come
- 39:06on guys, no phones, let's talk. They did not like they said
- 39:10that. Yeah, they thought you were a
- 39:11narc, bro. Yeah, they thought I was being
- 39:13that's. That's a teacher bullshit.
- 39:15I was like, I'm sorry, you guys can stay on your phones.
- 39:18It's cool. Yeah.
- 39:21But anyway, my favorite moment of, of this whole restaurant
- 39:24ordeal, you know, we all had to make orders ahead of time, like
- 39:28we had to like submit our, the food that we wanted and the
- 39:33desserts that we wanted. You know, we get the dinner
- 39:36everyone eats. Like there are two things that
- 39:38come out for each person. And if you order desserts, those
- 39:42came last. And so the desserts start coming
- 39:44around to every anybody. And we all have these like
- 39:46little cards in front of us that say what we got, but they're
- 39:48usually like folded down. No one's really looking at them.
- 39:51So they start handing out the desserts and they come around.
- 39:53They're like, oh, who got this chocolate cake thing?
- 39:57And then you raise your hand and they give it over to you.
- 40:00And so sea engineer, he gets, he raises his hand when they call
- 40:06it out, he gets his and they call out the second thing, which
- 40:09is like the same dessert and like you straight faced, like
- 40:12poker faced you just like this. He puts it down in front of you.
- 40:18And so you start eating it. And I was like, what is that
- 40:21dessert called? So I grab your card and there's
- 40:24nothing there that there's no dessert on your card.
- 40:28And so I was like, did you, is this yours?
- 40:31And you just said like, yeah, clearly it's mine.
- 40:34I'm eating it right now. Yeah, it's no one else's
- 40:38currently. It's not what's going on.
- 40:41And so I it, it, it hit me that somebody's not going to get
- 40:46dessert because they made the desserts from the orders and
- 40:51you. Got to justify this.
- 40:53I got to justify this when you're done and.
- 40:55And so that someone didn't get dessert, but you got dessert.
- 41:01And that's fine. But then the, the real nice part
- 41:04of this, the real good part is that you proceeded to eat the
- 41:09entire thing. And I'm laughing because I
- 41:12figured out that you didn't, that was not yours.
- 41:16And you just put your fork down all polite.
- 41:19And you look me straight in the eyes and say I didn't even want
- 41:22that. I started crying, laughing.
- 41:28The fact that you just stole someone's sweets for the night
- 41:33and didn't even really want to do it in the first.
- 41:35Place look, this is what was going through my head at the
- 41:40time. All right, before we got to the
- 41:42restaurant, one of the, the J mods that like set everything up
- 41:46and that order form said, yeah, look, if you, because some
- 41:49people weren't able to order a head, right?
- 41:53And So what he said was, look, you know, you, you can have like
- 41:58your cards there and everything, but like, you know, even if you
- 42:01don't get what you want, just ask them to bring you out, you
- 42:04know, something and like, we'll cover it, don't worry.
- 42:07So it's like like, so just so you can get whatever.
- 42:10And I was like, that's really sweet.
- 42:11OK, so then when they're bringing desserts out, I'm
- 42:15thinking, man, I really should order dessert.
- 42:18And and like, so they're putting desserts out and the guys kind
- 42:22of looking around seeing like, like who, who got this?
- 42:25So then I kind of did like one of these.
- 42:27I was like, well, no one's raising their hands.
- 42:31So, so, so I just grabbed it right.
- 42:36And something so like in my mind, I wasn't taking it from
- 42:39someone else. I'm not just sitting there and
- 42:42going, I'm going to make sure I get this and not someone else
- 42:45because I didn't have the foresight to order beforehand.
- 42:48I thought I was being so good because like, you know, you
- 42:51ordered it like a week before. And I remember sitting there
- 42:54looking at the options. By the way, I got the chicken.
- 42:57Fucking terrible. Fucking whatever.
- 42:59Everything else was great there. Like I was reading these British
- 43:02ass desserts. It was like chocolate Poupon
- 43:05with a strawberry table top. And I'm like, I'm not getting
- 43:09this dog shit dude. I'm, I'm just gonna fucking not
- 43:12eat dessert. Like I don't need it.
- 43:14I'll be fine, you know, and I'm gonna be so proud of myself for
- 43:18not eating dessert. So that was the real tragedy.
- 43:21I don't. Think they were anything?
- 43:23Crazy. The one the one I the one I saw
- 43:26it. It put me off from reading any
- 43:27of the other dessert names, I thought.
- 43:29Translation just couldn't understand.
- 43:31I was like, there's a lot of fucking trouble in this menu
- 43:34here. Yeah, yeah.
- 43:36So I ended up, you know, like the the shameful thing to me was
- 43:40that I ate the dessert. When I said yeah, I promised
- 43:42myself I wouldn't, but you know that.
- 43:44Was the worst part of it is that you that?
- 43:46Was the worst part, Yeah, yeah. But if I ended up if there was
- 43:50anyone at this event that would like would have was supposed to
- 43:54get this this dessert and they did not get this dessert.
- 43:58And I I don't want to hear like it's three people because then
- 44:00it's a restaurant issue. It's not me.
- 44:02It has to be specifically one person.
- 44:05If there's one person that did not get their dessert, I will
- 44:08buy you a dessert wherever you want.
- 44:10Let's keep it under $50.00 but. Dude, everyone's going to be
- 44:15raising their hand saying that they didn't get the dessert.
- 44:17You can't offer that. Don't go through.
- 44:19That all I'm saying, All I'm saying it takes.
- 44:22If one person says it, you know it was them and no one else.
- 44:26I got you. If the second two people say
- 44:28you're both fucked, okay, that second person screwed it for
- 44:31that first person, even if that one person was lying.
- 44:35One person's got to step up and that's it.
- 44:37No one else gets 2. I also thought it was funny, too
- 44:41because, like, it was pretty loud in this restaurant, so.
- 44:45And like, I had sea engineers sitting to my left.
- 44:47Yeah, You and Flooding are sitting across from me.
- 44:50And sea Engineers, like, you know, I don't want this dessert.
- 44:54Like, you know, And he offers it to you.
- 44:57Yeah. And he's like, you know, Jimmy,
- 44:59do you want this dessert? And you're like, you know, sure,
- 45:01why not? And you're about, like, halfway
- 45:04through eating and, like, I'm kind of noticing the entire
- 45:06time. Flooding's just kind of like
- 45:08like looking over you like this. And then like something in her,
- 45:12she finally can't take it anymore.
- 45:14She's like, why are you eating all of that?
- 45:16Like, like you're not you're not supposed to be eating that.
- 45:18Give it back to him. She thinks, she thinks he
- 45:22offered you a bite and you're just eating the entire thing.
- 45:25That that was I I think that was like kind of like the start of
- 45:29like for me getting in like a wacky mood dude.
- 45:33Cuz yeah, after that I don't even remember the rest of what
- 45:36we said, but we were laughing like jackasses the entire night
- 45:40after that. I love the fact that she was
- 45:42just watching in pure anxiety. Every bite was just killing her
- 45:46inside, thinking that she was just like, you want to bite like
- 45:49you want to try this and. She just.
- 45:51Watched me devour I I didn't leave a thing on the plate.
- 45:55I cleaned the plate dude. She didn't have the fucking
- 45:57balls to tell her husband of multiple years don't eat his
- 46:01dessert. I just think that's so funny.
- 46:04She's literally been with you for so long and she, she, she
- 46:09had to question like she questioned your character in
- 46:11that moment 'cause she's like, why would, why did I marry
- 46:14someone who was just gonna like gluttonously eat everything off
- 46:18of everyone's plates? Like unasked I.
- 46:23Mean, I think she was just worried that there was
- 46:24miscommunication between me and C engineer and there was not.
- 46:29No, he didn't want that shit. I think it's because what
- 46:31happened was, is when I when he's like, Jimmy, do you want
- 46:34it? And I was like, yeah, yeah, I'll
- 46:36try it. And I think that's what got her
- 46:39thinking that is because she thought me saying, I'll try.
- 46:42It was me saying, yeah, I'll take a bite of it.
- 46:45And and then the. Rest.
- 46:47That was on me. I guess I should have said yes.
- 46:49I will take your entire dessert, please.
- 46:51Thank you. Yeah, language is very
- 46:54particular. You have to say your full
- 46:56intention every time. That's every time English.
- 46:58Language will do. It's hard.
- 47:00Yeah, we went to a bar, too. I remember that.
- 47:02They took us all to a bar. Yes.
- 47:05Yeah, We all took a picture together.
- 47:07It was like who was in charge of that picture, by the way of all
- 47:10the YouTube guys, remember who organized that?
- 47:13Because, you know, it was all about like getting everyone with
- 47:16a lot of subscribers in one picture.
- 47:17And I remember like, you know, like smiling through and
- 47:19everything and. All I could think they were
- 47:21talking about the giant ass group picture.
- 47:24No, no, no no no. The the one with all the
- 47:25Youtubers like the YouTube guys. Yeah, we were all just kind of
- 47:28talking. Yeah.
- 47:29And one of them's like, oh, you know, 3,000,000 YouTube
- 47:32subscribers right here. I remember because I was like,
- 47:35that's a cool idea. So then I, I tweeted it.
- 47:38It's the one time I logged into Twitter.
- 47:40Yeah, I just remember thinking during that like, I'm, I'm like
- 47:42smiling in it, you know, like looking, looking at all the guys
- 47:46next to me and like, we're looking real cute.
- 47:49Yeah. My first thought was this is
- 47:50cool that we weren't able to do this right now.
- 47:52And my second thought was we're a bunch of pretentious pricks,
- 47:55dude. Like, we are the worst.
- 47:57What? Dude, what a bunch of we are
- 47:59right now. When I was coming up with the
- 48:02caption, bro, when I was coming up with the caption, I was like,
- 48:05I was trying to say like, you know about everyone in the the
- 48:09photo. I wasn't including myself
- 48:11because I'm not the type of person that would do that.
- 48:13No, never and. I was, I was really trying to
- 48:15think of like a particular way to word it so it was clear what
- 48:17I was trying to say. Yeah, I was trying to say like,
- 48:21these are all the Runescape YouTube goats.
- 48:23But again, I was in that picture.
- 48:25So I was like, I'm not going to sit there and say that about
- 48:28myself because, like, what sort of Jackass am I?
- 48:31So then like, I went to my my tweet writer settled and then he
- 48:36wrote that for me. Yeah.
- 48:37Because like, like dude, he, he's, he has fact checked me on
- 48:42like that's not the right word, but he, he is like, he's like
- 48:45saved my ass from like, like wording something in a way
- 48:49that's been like you could kind of be seen as like a douche if
- 48:51you say that he, he's done that multiple times.
- 48:54So shout out to him for making me not look like a douche in my
- 48:57own tweet. He's your douche filter.
- 48:59That's awesome. He's my douche filter.
- 49:00Absolutely it's. A good title for him.
- 49:03He's a. Douche filter?
- 49:03Yeah, he's the douche filter bro.
- 49:08That's a nice thing to say about someone.
- 49:13It's hard to earn that title you.
- 49:15Don't just earn that. You don't just earn that.
- 49:18But the captions objectively true.
- 49:21So like if someone gets mad at you for that, like they're just
- 49:23mad at you for like stating a fact, really, it's just like
- 49:28they're jumping to conclusions about you because you're saying
- 49:32something that is verifiable, like numbers, so.
- 49:36Yeah, one guy, one guy said like settled makes up most of that.
- 49:41And I was like, I don't think you know what we're doing here.
- 49:43That's kind of what I like, what my thought was.
- 49:45I guess it is like an objectively true fact.
- 49:49Yeah. Much like the entirety of what
- 49:53we have said here today. Speaking of, by the way, dude,
- 50:00depending on the title and thumbnail, you're gonna have
- 50:02some J Mod nervously fucking someone gonna be assigned to
- 50:04watch this whole thing to see if we fucking yeah yeah broke NDA
- 50:08and he's like, they just wasted an hour of my life.
- 50:12That was kind of what I wanted to do with that, wanted to have
- 50:15them like, like really be nervous about this.
- 50:18You you wanted to willingly waste one employees hour of his
- 50:22life. At least a few of them, yeah, I
- 50:24wanted to make sure. Speaking of things that fucking
- 50:26people make up, Bodie went live, bro.
- 50:28Bodie went live and he started fucking yapping and like I hung
- 50:32out with him for a while. Cool dude.
- 50:34Obviously it was like like like, you know I I like hanging out
- 50:37with them whenever I get the chance.
- 50:39Everyone like everyone again in real life, cool people, but then
- 50:43like I get I get told by settled and and soup that, you know,
- 50:51Bodhi said that I showed up every single day with a
- 50:54different $5000 Rolex to all these different events and I was
- 50:59iced out and I was like dressed in like like freaking like like
- 51:04Louis Vuitton, like head to toe and like all designer shit.
- 51:08Yeah. Well I got this shirt from
- 51:10Costco the the sweatshirt for $16.00.
- 51:13This is the most expensive thing I fucking own.
- 51:17Yeah, he, he likes to, he's our little section here, you know,
- 51:22talk about what we heard about. In theory.
- 51:26That's most sentences I feel like he says is he's he's trying
- 51:30to just see what kind of things he can plant in people's minds
- 51:36so that they go and spread it as much as possible to see like
- 51:38what how far something can get and how true people believe it
- 51:43to be for years. Before I forget about this, I
- 51:45want to I want to say something. All right, I got I got some
- 51:48dirt. I got some dirt on ODA Block.
- 51:51OK. He doesn't want people to find
- 51:52out about ODA block. He's actually a pretty nice guy.
- 51:57He doesn't want you to know that he's a really fucking nice guy,
- 52:01great to talk. To.
- 52:02I don't want you to know it. No, no, that's the last thing.
- 52:04Yeah, he's a he's a pleasant man to be around.
- 52:07One of the most fucked up thing that happened between me and
- 52:10him. Like we're because I, we said
- 52:12hello, that like we hung out, you know, nice guy, He said
- 52:16right at the end, right at the end, dude, like like when he was
- 52:21like everyone's going up the bed for the night.
- 52:22He said you're going to be a good father, dude.
- 52:27What if I wanted to be a piece of shit dad?
- 52:29He's putting that on me. He didn't consider that that's
- 52:31that's messed up. He didn't, he didn't consider
- 52:33maybe I had a game plan to really just, you know, yuck.
- 52:38This whole thing up and now, now I feel like I'm letting him down
- 52:41if I'm not a good dad. Yeah.
- 52:44Well, you know, he, he kind of put that on me.
- 52:47But but in reality, dude like like very nice guy, dude very
- 52:51nice guy. Very nice guy, yeah.
- 52:53Very easy to talk to like. He does not want us to be saying
- 52:57this about him right now. No, that, no.
- 52:59This is going to go against a lot of what what people thought
- 53:02about him, but I got to tell the truth that times we're in the
- 53:06truth part of this this conversation right now.
- 53:09So I got to tell the truth. You you think that many people
- 53:13are thinking I do not want him to be nice.
- 53:16I think a lot of people do. In reality, people are way nicer
- 53:21in person. Yeah, than than you think
- 53:24they're going to be. Like I, I think, I think people,
- 53:27it's very easy online to build up a perception of who you think
- 53:30someone is. Yeah, but like the, the, the
- 53:33thing I've heard said so many times, you don't have any
- 53:37fucking clue who someone is until you meet them in person.
- 53:41And then like, you really get to like talk with them.
- 53:43You really don't know online, dude, you don't.
- 53:46You and I, we could be the biggest fucking assholes in the
- 53:49world, or we could donate the fucking charity every single day
- 53:52and just not talk about it. You could do both of those
- 53:54things like those are. Both those don't cancel.
- 53:56Each other out. Yeah, you could be a chaotic
- 53:58neutral in there. That's what that is.
- 54:02Oh, Speaking of being nice, I'd so Josh Dreyfe Hayes.
- 54:05Did you talk to him at all while we were there?
- 54:07A a little bit, yeah. He's a nice guy when?
- 54:10We were at the bar like that the first night.
- 54:14You know, I'm, I'm like just scanning the room and I spot
- 54:17Josh and Josh always has a huge smile on his face.
- 54:23He's a happy guy. And.
- 54:25No, no, I, I I don't think he's stoned.
- 54:28I didn't think that because that's what ODA Block thought
- 54:32about me. And I don't like they thought
- 54:34that I was always high. Yeah.
- 54:35But Josh, yeah, Josh is extremely happy all the time.
- 54:40He's he's so enthusiastic talking to everybody.
- 54:43And I start looking at him, talk with everybody just.
- 54:45And the smile never fades. And I and I said out loud to the
- 54:48people I'm with, I'm like, something's not right here.
- 54:52Something's wrong. He's too happy.
- 54:54He's too happy. Really suspicious.
- 54:56Something isn't adding up. So about 15 minutes later, I'm
- 55:00like, I move our our way near the food and Josh approaches.
- 55:05Of course, huge smile. It's still there.
- 55:08And so I, I said to him, I'm like, Josh, what's, what is
- 55:11this? I'm, I'm determined to piss you
- 55:14off just to see if you're able to be pissed off because you're,
- 55:17you're looking way too happy. And he said to me it, it all
- 55:21came together. He said, well, it's because I
- 55:23used to be a teacher and I was like, oh, he's like, I get to
- 55:29just be at this event on a game I've played for my whole life,
- 55:32talking to people who do what I do for a living.
- 55:35And I'm having drinks with everybody.
- 55:37And it, it, it, it's amazing. And I'm like, that makes so much
- 55:41more sense because like my mom's a teacher and I completely
- 55:46understand what it's like for, you know, going back home after
- 55:51a day of, you know, teaching asshole kids and Josh gets to
- 55:56talk about MMORP GS and go to Jags events.
- 56:00So it all came together. The puzzle was was put together.
- 56:04Very happy for him. I don't question his happiness
- 56:07anymore. He's not suspicious.
- 56:08He's off my radar. My suspicious radar dude after.
- 56:12That someone someone that is suspiciously nice.
- 56:15You're a spam dude. I was thinking the same thing.
- 56:18I have known him for like 15 years.
- 56:22And that guy, there are skeletons in that guy's closet.
- 56:26He's too nice. You know, like, you look at him,
- 56:30he's just sitting there. Every time I talk to him.
- 56:34Yeah, he's he's always talking about how he wants to catch up.
- 56:37Right. And he specifically says he
- 56:39wants to have a chin wag. I'm like every, every time you
- 56:42tell that to me, I'm ignoring you for an extra week.
- 56:46I don't know what that means. That would freak me out.
- 56:47Shit. It's like, it's like a British
- 56:49euphemism of like a chin wag's like, oh, like, let's let's
- 56:53talk. And it's like, you don't need to
- 56:55say what you just said. You could just say I would like
- 56:58to talk to you. Yeah.
- 56:59Don't tell us how, how you had a lovely time hanging out with us,
- 57:03dude. It's implied.
- 57:05It's implied. Yeah, yeah, he really angered me
- 57:11with his niceness recently. Yeah, dude.
- 57:14Like, like, like I, I sit there and I'm like this guy, this guy
- 57:19there, he is suspiciously nice. He is trying to take my, he's
- 57:24trying to take my eye off off the ball dude.
- 57:27Right. Like if that's maybe I just
- 57:29combine 2 sayings, dude. He, he's trying, he's trying to
- 57:35divert your attention somewhere else.
- 57:37Yeah. The moment, the moment he does
- 57:39that, you have to start looking. You have to start sniffing.
- 57:42You got to start that guy. That guy is he wants to plug.
- 57:45Your nose and you got to sniff, Yeah.
- 57:48I get that he's up to no good. Doesn't matter how happy he is.
- 57:52You know, we're we're going to have to you know, the the the
- 57:55moment we get any, any negative thought out of him, you know, he
- 58:00is no longer a threat level. He's in the he's in the clear.
- 58:04Yeah. But until then, you got to be
- 58:06you got to be on your toes with that guy.
- 58:08We we can't have someone sitting there going around pecan people
- 58:11and then saying good fight beast.
- 58:13Not everyone's a beast. No, they're not.
- 58:16So I don't drink a lot. I drink like 3 * a year when
- 58:19we're at like events like this, right?
- 58:20So and, and yeah, flooding too. She isn't.
- 58:23She only gets whenever we go to like an event or, you know,
- 58:27families in town and we're like going to like a casino or
- 58:30something. She always gets a vodka
- 58:32cranberry because that's the only drink that she knows about.
- 58:36And we we were talking about that with, with skill specs.
- 58:40He was at the bar near us and the bartender overheard us and
- 58:45he was like, well, let me make you something since you don't
- 58:47know anything like about drinks. And you know, we're like, yeah,
- 58:50sure. So he ends up making her like a
- 58:53cosmopolitan. He's like, well, what do you
- 58:54want? And I'm like, I don't know
- 58:55drinks either. Like go ahead and make me
- 58:57something. So he's like, OK, OK, I'll make
- 58:59you something. And like 15 minutes goes by.
- 59:03He's like, sorry, it's taking so long.
- 59:05I'm just waiting on some ingredients.
- 59:06I was like ingredients like what the hell is this guy making?
- 59:09And dude, I was so shocked that he was like going this far for
- 59:14I'm like, you didn't need to do that.
- 59:15Like you could give me something simple.
- 59:16So like, I don't really see what he's doing.
- 59:18Like I see him getting crazy and then he he turns around, finally
- 59:23gives it to me and I'm like that, that looks great.
- 59:28Like I'll try it. It's just a Red Bull vodka.
- 59:32Yep dude, I had the same thing 'cause I drink 0 * a year,
- 59:37right? And I like I asked them can I
- 59:39have a virgin pina colada? Yeah and they said we don't do
- 59:44that here. And I asked do you have like
- 59:49coconut juice? And you know like they're like
- 59:52yeah I was like, do you have pineapple juice?
- 59:55So like, yeah. And I was like, can't, can't do
- 1:00:01that. Like, no, we don't have the
- 1:00:02ingredients. I was like, OK, well, look, I
- 1:00:04don't want to. I don't want to cause a scene
- 1:00:07like I'm. Yeah, a Jag X is is covering for
- 1:00:12this event, you know, so like, I, I don't want to be that guy,
- 1:00:17right? Right.
- 1:00:18Yeah, To be fair, I'm literally never that guy anyway.
- 1:00:20But no, I especially don't want to be that guy now.
- 1:00:23Now is not the time. It's not the time to.
- 1:00:26To do tryouts for being that guy you're.
- 1:00:28Not your home country, Yeah, I don't.
- 1:00:30Exactly. They could arrest me for that.
- 1:00:32They I don't know. They could have different laws.
- 1:00:34I'm sure they do. So I'm thinking, OK, well, I
- 1:00:38need anything. So they're like, like, you know,
- 1:00:41the bartender's like, well, we have a mocktail, right?
- 1:00:43We, she says we have one mocktail.
- 1:00:46I'm like, all right, I'll get that same thing.
- 1:00:48I'm standing at the bar. I think it was for like 12 or 13
- 1:00:51minutes. She comes up and she says I'm
- 1:00:54making it now. We just had to get you an
- 1:00:56ingredient. Yeah.
- 1:00:58And I'm like, and I'm like, OK, like same thought process.
- 1:01:02Like what? What is this ingredient?
- 1:01:04Like that's they must be crazy what they're making, right?
- 1:01:09It was a seltzer with just some strawberry flavoring in it and
- 1:01:20then like some strawberry thing on top.
- 1:01:24Yeah, and they don't. Get me wrong?
- 1:01:27They had to dive through those ingredients.
- 1:01:29I enjoyed it, but I was like, I don't think this took you 13
- 1:01:33minutes to get. I think you were doing something
- 1:01:35else and you could have just admitted that.
- 1:01:37That's fine, yeah. Right.
- 1:01:38Just be honest with me, yeah. I'm very clearly chilling there.
- 1:01:42I don't need to have things in that moment.
- 1:01:44So I feel as though they could have just, you know, saved a lot
- 1:01:48of trouble of having to think, you know, of that ingredient lie
- 1:01:51they told me and you. Maybe that's something they
- 1:01:53agree upon. Every night they say we're
- 1:01:55getting an ingredient. Yeah, it's like a code like
- 1:01:57they've all talked about this like just tell them they get
- 1:01:59ingredients it because it does it sounds like they're going
- 1:02:01like the extra mile for you, but.
- 1:02:03Yes, exactly. In reality, they're just like, I
- 1:02:06got to think about something else for a while, yeah.
- 1:02:08Like do something that's not. This and just when you really
- 1:02:11think about it, the job of any bartender is to already have the
- 1:02:16ingredients. So like if if you're getting the
- 1:02:19ingredient, you don't need to say that it's like.
- 1:02:22Ordering a pizza and then 10 minutes later they call you and
- 1:02:26they say hey man, we're just getting the pepperoni.
- 1:02:30It's like all. Right, that's that's cool.
- 1:02:33Did ask for that. So thank you.
- 1:02:35Yeah, I'm glad you guys are still on the clock.
- 1:02:37That's really nice. For me it means it's going to
- 1:02:39work out. This worked out.
- 1:02:44For me. Oh dude I totally forgot about
- 1:02:46this. I just want to get your opinion
- 1:02:49of all people as applies to you. This was actually a quote from
- 1:02:52Flutten. She said this to me on the the
- 1:02:54drive from our hotel back to the airport and it it really got me
- 1:03:01thinking she just this was out of nowhere like no context.
- 1:03:04She just turns to me and says anyone above 6 feet should be
- 1:03:09banned from being a streamer because they're wasting their
- 1:03:12natural gift to do manual labor. Do you?
- 1:03:18What's your thoughts on that? So she thinks that everyone
- 1:03:22above 6 foot should do manual labor.
- 1:03:25Yeah, because they have a, you know, a better ability to list
- 1:03:29things. Here's the thing.
- 1:03:31See that's that's, that's a real dwarf thought of her.
- 1:03:34OK, so here's here's the thing. Because when you're taller, when
- 1:03:39you're above 6 feet tall. Yeah.
- 1:03:42You got extra stuff filling the gaps between your different
- 1:03:46parts of your body. Shit breaks easier, right?
- 1:03:50And shit makes easier. I guess I would need to
- 1:03:53understand what type of manual labor she's talking about.
- 1:03:56Like plowing in the fields all day.
- 1:03:59Sort of. Section or something?
- 1:04:00Yeah, yeah. Is she talking about like in in
- 1:04:05terms of like muscle or what? What does she mean I.
- 1:04:08Don't know what she meant by that.
- 1:04:09I just because you just because you're over.
- 1:04:11A6. Just because you're over a six
- 1:04:14foot doesn't mean that you're automatically built for labor.
- 1:04:17I would argue a lot of people over 6 feet tall have no ability
- 1:04:23or reason why they should be doing manual labor.
- 1:04:26Specifically saying they shouldn't be allowed to stream.
- 1:04:30Well, that just, I don't understand, like, do you have to
- 1:04:33be like a Hobbit to stream in her mind?
- 1:04:35I kind of feel as though she is angry towards tall people and I
- 1:04:44don't get why. Maybe, maybe, maybe it has to do
- 1:04:48with the fact that, you know, she like, only comes up to here,
- 1:04:52you know, on me and like, you know, she's just not a threat to
- 1:04:56me physically. No.
- 1:04:57Like she could have a, she could have a gun, and I feel like I'd
- 1:05:01be able to figure it out before she could pull the trigger in in
- 1:05:04the process of trying to kill me.
- 1:05:06Yeah. That's really interesting.
- 1:05:07I I mean, I don't want to see how that would play out, but
- 1:05:10like, I'm really. No, I don't want her to shoot me
- 1:05:12either. Yeah, if like we have like a
- 1:05:13simulation to run that, I'd be, I'd be curious about it.
- 1:05:16Yeah, put someone like me in it, but not me.
- 1:05:19Well. I was thinking there's gonna be
- 1:05:20a virtual thing so we don't have to actually sacrifice anybody.
- 1:05:23Like, no, I, no, I, I get what you were saying.
- 1:05:26I get what you're saying. I'm glad.
- 1:05:27But like, you know, with, with the way technology is going, one
- 1:05:31day they could figure out how to upload us and you know, someone
- 1:05:35like me instead of me is going to be getting fake shot and then
- 1:05:39and then they're, you know, they're, they're going to die in
- 1:05:42the game. Well, you made me think of this.
- 1:05:45The experience of, you know, like where tech is going and
- 1:05:49being able to experience like, you know, getting shot.
- 1:05:52You're going to talk about what's the kind, aren't you?
- 1:05:54Are you talking about used to go?
- 1:05:56I have it already did that. I have that written down, but
- 1:05:59that's for later. Yeah, this is about.
- 1:06:01So you didn't you never played Cyberpunk, did you?
- 1:06:04The No, no, you don't play a lot of.
- 1:06:06Games one one of these days, one of these days I will.
- 1:06:09I heard there's a boob in that game.
- 1:06:11Not like. That yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:06:13I'd. Like to understand what that
- 1:06:14boob is? But in that game, there's these
- 1:06:16things called brain dances and essentially it's like a VR
- 1:06:20experience, but like you are essentially reliving the memory
- 1:06:24of somebody else and experiencing every like all 5
- 1:06:27senses of them during that experience.
- 1:06:29So like, yeah, you get, I don't know if you get introduced to it
- 1:06:32this way, but essentially in that in the story, you
- 1:06:37experience a brain dance of somebody going in and robbing a
- 1:06:40store and then leaving the store and getting shot and killed.
- 1:06:44And like you experience his like adrenaline and like his the
- 1:06:47feeling of getting shot and dying, like you experience all
- 1:06:50of it. So I'm like, would you, what
- 1:06:53kind of brain dance are you ordering?
- 1:06:55What what would you want to experience?
- 1:06:56Because that's like extreme, that's fucking crazy.
- 1:06:58But like, what would you order if you got to if you got to
- 1:07:00order something? I feel like I know most people's
- 1:07:02answers, yeah. They're immediately going like,
- 1:07:06I'm having lots of sex or something.
- 1:07:08Yeah, I think. That's what most people would
- 1:07:10get, yeah. That's not me.
- 1:07:12And and also, by the way, if you're living in Cyberpunk, I
- 1:07:16haven't played the game. I got to imagine there's
- 1:07:18freakier ways to get off than doing a brain dance.
- 1:07:22All right, right. But you know, and there's like
- 1:07:27there's a lot like a lot of weird things, like are you doing
- 1:07:29like a brain dance of like your buddy type of thing?
- 1:07:31And is, you know, like, like I want to, I want to be the father
- 1:07:34of his kids. I want to know what that's like.
- 1:07:37Because some people are thinking that like, I want to know
- 1:07:40everybody like to raise those kids.
- 1:07:42Yeah, like I'm going to beat you and you're not you're not going
- 1:07:45to stop me type of thing. I really hope this never becomes
- 1:07:48a thing, you know, in general. But my brain dance in
- 1:07:52particular. I'm going, I'm going someone
- 1:07:56that did some like fucking, you know, that guy that the Red Bull
- 1:08:00jump from fucking space. Oh yeah.
- 1:08:02Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm doing that guy.
- 1:08:06I'm picking that. Well, I'm not doing them.
- 1:08:08I don't, I don't know, maybe he's married.
- 1:08:09But I I'm picking that guy's brain experience, brain dance,
- 1:08:14and I'm falling from outer space onto the ground because he
- 1:08:18lived. So you don't like, you know, you
- 1:08:21know the outcome. You know you're fine.
- 1:08:23Yeah, like, you know, nothing would get better than that.
- 1:08:26Because like one of those things I've said for like my whole
- 1:08:28life, I was like, you know, when I'm older, I'm going to skydive.
- 1:08:32Like I said that when I was like 17 and in my, in my excuse, I
- 1:08:35was like, I have $6. Like no way I could afford to
- 1:08:38skydive. That's not happening.
- 1:08:39And then, you know, like when I got to be like, I don't know,
- 1:08:43like 22, when I had $40, I was like, you know, yeah, I could
- 1:08:48skydive right now. But you know what, like, I want
- 1:08:50to keep going. Like, I really want to save that
- 1:08:53experience. That's going to be a good one,
- 1:08:54right? And I kept pushing that off more
- 1:08:58and more. And, you know, here I am now,
- 1:09:01you know, early 30s, I don't want to skydive, you know what I
- 1:09:05mean? I don't either.
- 1:09:06I'll go my whole life without doing it.
- 1:09:08My little brain dance, I'm going into that guy that's the
- 1:09:10ultimate skydive. I'm going into Red Bull Man
- 1:09:13himself and I'm dropping down under the earth.
- 1:09:16So it's it's Runescapes 25th anniversary, right?
- 1:09:18It's the whole it's the whole thing.
- 1:09:21And I saw somebody, I don't know if it was like AJ mod or
- 1:09:24something, or maybe it was just a guy commenting on the video,
- 1:09:26but they were essentially like, you know, cheers to the next 25.
- 1:09:31Do you think Runescape's going to be around for another 25
- 1:09:33years? There's a chance the United
- 1:09:38States of America is not around 25 years.
- 1:09:40So I got to say I, I don't have the ability to think that far
- 1:09:47ahead, you know what I mean? So I would like for for that to
- 1:09:52be the thing. Yeah, I'll give them another
- 1:09:55five years for sure. Another solid five years, Yeah,
- 1:09:59but you know, like I would love to play this game for another 25
- 1:10:02years, even though that would make me like, you know, some 50
- 1:10:07year old man, 57 year old man playing Runescape for his whole
- 1:10:12life. Yeah, but.
- 1:10:14I don't know, dude, I don't know, you know, maybe maybe it
- 1:10:19can survive the test of time cuz like it really has such a
- 1:10:22simplistic charm. I really think they they need to
- 1:10:26host some sort of insane contest.
- 1:10:30Like they need to make something that's like so hard that like it
- 1:10:36takes people months to complete it.
- 1:10:38It's like literally like people can't do it.
- 1:10:40And then whoever is the first person to complete that, they
- 1:10:44send them to the moon. They said wow they need to send
- 1:10:49prize. The moment that contest gets
- 1:10:51announced, all eyes on Runescape.
- 1:10:54All eyes on Runescape, dude. Like everyone's going to want to
- 1:10:57know I can go to the moon for free from this company.
- 1:11:02How? Oh I just have to buy membership
- 1:11:06and become the best in the world at this game.
- 1:11:09A lot of people are delusional dude.
- 1:11:10They'll think they can do it right.
- 1:11:13People think I could be that guy.
- 1:11:14People play the lottery every day.
- 1:11:16It is more likely that you get struck by lightning twice, then
- 1:11:20you win the lottery. People play it every day.
- 1:11:23You got to be in it to win it. That's what people are going to
- 1:11:25think about this. Everyone's going to think I
- 1:11:27could be the guy that goes to the moon because I was good at a
- 1:11:29video game. That is the viral marketing
- 1:11:32right there. We need to do that, and I
- 1:11:35already know who's going to win. Five years.
- 1:11:37I don't know how. I mean, 25 years, the way tech's
- 1:11:41gone, like who knows what it's going to be looking like, but 25
- 1:11:46years from now, going to the moon might not even be that
- 1:11:48cool. Like that might just be a thing
- 1:11:50that people do like, oh, do you want to for our vacation this
- 1:11:53year, go to the moon for a second, like.
- 1:11:55All right, so then then they can keep this thing going for like,
- 1:12:00you know, months, months and months.
- 1:12:02It is free viral marketing for months and they can update it.
- 1:12:05They can be like, you know what, why?
- 1:12:06Who's going with you to the moon?
- 1:12:07If you go, we're going to get Barack Obama to go with you to
- 1:12:11the moon. What?
- 1:12:14That's what they would think. They'd think what?
- 1:12:15And then they would buy 12 years of membership.
- 1:12:18They would get so excited. They don't buy 12 months.
- 1:12:21They miss click on 12 years. You don't think there's anyone
- 1:12:23else they could choose to maybe get more incentive here?
- 1:12:26That's not even Jag X is in the UK.
- 1:12:28We were just there at their headquarters.
- 1:12:30Why would they choose Barack Obama?
- 1:12:31That like UK wouldn't care about that even.
- 1:12:34You're going with Obama, you're going with Akon, and you're
- 1:12:36going with Sydney Sweeney. Akon that's a crazy poll.
- 1:12:41Acons Wild. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:12:44No, no, there's no fucking way this games last another 25
- 1:12:49years. You don't think?
- 1:12:51No way. Maybe 10, maybe 10 and I think
- 1:12:56there will be like after the game is done I think, I think
- 1:13:00like private servers will keep going.
- 1:13:02Yeah, that's kind of how always. Happen.
- 1:13:04That'll always happen, but like 10 actual years.
- 1:13:07As they die, dude, as they. So this is kind of how I felt
- 1:13:10about Project Zaneris. I was like, that's eventually a
- 1:13:14good idea to do, but you know, maybe towards like the end of
- 1:13:21like like the main games life, we're going to go Minecraft
- 1:13:24style and we're going to rent out servers to people and that's
- 1:13:27how the game survives. I could see that being the next
- 1:13:30iteration of it if the main game ever dies.
- 1:13:33Yeah, 'cause there is a lot of, I remember a lot of people that
- 1:13:37don't play regularly like Kraken.
- 1:13:39He was, he would have been like prime Project Zanners, like
- 1:13:45hosts, host of a server sort of thing, like the, the people that
- 1:13:49don't play a lot would come to play a server that they can
- 1:13:53make. But I don't think we're there
- 1:13:55yet. I, I think it was probably a
- 1:13:57good move to not do that right now.
- 1:13:59I I don't think it would have gone well.
- 1:14:01I felt relieved. I felt relieved personally.
- 1:14:03Like I, I'm sure a lot of people were heartbroken by that, but
- 1:14:07you know, I, I kind of felt like a like relief from it because it
- 1:14:11just kind of felt, felt like a little too soon.
- 1:14:13But what do I know, dude, I'm just a guy talking to my friend
- 1:14:17who's talking to his friend who is being eavesdropped on by
- 1:14:21potentially thousands of people. Potentially.
- 1:14:24I was just happy that we got to do a promo for it.
- 1:14:26That was really funny. But even though they kind of
- 1:14:29butchered the presentation of IT, people kind of hated our
- 1:14:32guts for the way that we presented it.
- 1:14:34But it was still really fun for us, which is all that matter.
- 1:14:37You and me, right talking, talking about how they didn't
- 1:14:41even give us a script, they said.
- 1:14:42No, no. I remember, and correct me if
- 1:14:45I'm wrong, they literally said something to the effect of like,
- 1:14:48like, let your heart speak it's truth.
- 1:14:51It was something like that where it's like I need to look and I
- 1:14:53need to basically insinuate more or less what is happening.
- 1:14:57Yeah, insinuate's not the right word.
- 1:14:59It's got a negative connotation. I didn't know that insinuate had
- 1:15:02a negative connotation until I was at a wedding because my wife
- 1:15:06was in the wedding party. So we went to this hotel early.
- 1:15:09Yeah. And that one of the other girls
- 1:15:11that was in the wedding party, we like, caught each other in
- 1:15:13the elevator, whatever's going down.
- 1:15:14I don't even remember what she said, but I said something to
- 1:15:17the effect of like, like you'd insinuate that.
- 1:15:21And like, you know, I was like, yeah, I about like 30 minutes
- 1:15:24later, my wife calls me is like, are you mad at this girl?
- 1:15:29I was like, what? Why?
- 1:15:30Why would I be mad at her? And she's like, you told her
- 1:15:33that she was insinuating something.
- 1:15:35I was like, yeah, like I, I was joking.
- 1:15:39Like I was, I was saying like, like you're implying something.
- 1:15:42That's basically what I was trying to say.
- 1:15:43Yeah. And she's like, that's.
- 1:15:44The word you were looking for, yeah.
- 1:15:46And I was like, no, I thought it was like interchangeable.
- 1:15:49She's like, no, it's not interchangeable.
- 1:15:51She thinks you hate her. I was like, I didn't even use
- 1:15:54the word aggressively. I left a bad impression on this
- 1:15:57girl. I, I ended up talking to her and
- 1:15:59apologizing. And my wife, you know, was like,
- 1:16:01don't worry. He just gets words wrong
- 1:16:03sometimes. I'm like, well, don't say that.
- 1:16:05That just makes me seem like I'm always getting shit wrong.
- 1:16:08I just didn't know that it's like one word.
- 1:16:10I'm allowed to get one word wrong every now and then.
- 1:16:13That reminds me of that there. There's a bit in Curb Your
- 1:16:17Enthusiasm where he he like Larry David's on like bad terms
- 1:16:22with a with a girl who's who's deaf.
- 1:16:24So she's like always using sign language and he did something he
- 1:16:28didn't mean to be said something he didn't mean to be, you know,
- 1:16:31fucked up, but it was. And the the husband of the deaf
- 1:16:35girl is like, I'm like, dude, you got to like apologize to
- 1:16:38her. Like they're in the bathroom.
- 1:16:39He's he's like, you got to say something to her.
- 1:16:41Like she'd really appreciate if you apologize because you know,
- 1:16:44it would mean a lot. And he's like, OK, he starts
- 1:16:47drying his hands like in the dryer.
- 1:16:50And he's like doing this. And he accidentally signed
- 1:16:53something really fucked up. Like, sign language is something
- 1:16:55really fucked up. Like while he's just trying to
- 1:16:58dry his hands and the guy's just like, what the Hell's your
- 1:17:01problem? He storms out of the bathroom.
- 1:17:03Oh my God, I'm just. Drying my hands so I feel like
- 1:17:06that was almost the. Equivalent I was in AI was in a
- 1:17:08Larry David Kirby enthusiasm scenario.
- 1:17:11In real life, that do happen. Yeah, it it absolutely does
- 1:17:14happen. Just like, I don't know, people
- 1:17:16just they, they assume the worst.
- 1:17:18I guess that's just kind of how it goes, 'cause they, I mean,
- 1:17:22they see you and they're just like this guy, He hates my guts
- 1:17:25by default. It's like.
- 1:17:26By default. Where you're at, Yeah.
- 1:17:28I actually I I feel as though my default state is I don't want to
- 1:17:35be mean to someone I don't know, and then if I know them I also I
- 1:17:41also don't want to be mean. Yeah.
- 1:17:44That's kind of why, but. That's how you think that's
- 1:17:46good. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm
- 1:17:47thinking about whenever I'm in any social situation.
- 1:17:52That and then I'm thinking, I hope to God this person knows
- 1:17:56how to talk to other people because I can't carry a
- 1:17:59conversation with someone who doesn't know how to talk to
- 1:18:02people because then I don't know how to talk to people.
- 1:18:05If someone's good at talking to people, I can talk to that
- 1:18:07person for like 9 hours, right? But like if someone just sits
- 1:18:12there and they give you nothing, I'm like, I'm in like my own
- 1:18:16little version of hell. Like I want to leave, yeah.
- 1:18:21Yeah, I think you get, you don't give yourself enough credit.
- 1:18:23I think you're pretty good at carrying conversations, at least
- 1:18:26in the environments I've seen you in.
- 1:18:27Because like once you get going, there's no stopping you.
- 1:18:30It's, it's a, it's a train. It just keeps going.
- 1:18:33I, I kind of do like this little test with people sometimes
- 1:18:36depending on like if I, if I feel as though, you know,
- 1:18:40there's someone I can talk to in a much more light hearted,
- 1:18:45funny, candid way. And I did this test on Kraken
- 1:18:49because obviously you're friends with Kraken.
- 1:18:52And by default I was like, if Jimmy's friends with this guy,
- 1:18:56then this guy is like someone I can probably easily talk to.
- 1:19:01Let's test this theory. So I told him that like an
- 1:19:05intrusive thought I had as one of the first things.
- 1:19:08Yeah, yeah. Within like the first 5 minutes
- 1:19:11I basically said to him like dude, you ever just meet someone
- 1:19:16and you know you're talking to him and things are going well
- 1:19:18and like you just get that thought.
- 1:19:20Like I could knock this guy out right now.
- 1:19:22One punch across the face and you're not sitting there
- 1:19:26thinking like that's what I want to do.
- 1:19:27You don't want to do that. I have never hit someone across
- 1:19:30the face actually in my whole life.
- 1:19:33I'm not hitting people and I never have.
- 1:19:36So I told, I told him that and then he immediately goes, Is
- 1:19:39that what you want to do to me? Like you want to punch me in the
- 1:19:42face? That does sound exactly like
- 1:19:44what you were saying, to be fair.
- 1:19:46Immediately upon meeting, of course, for the first time.
- 1:19:49And I didn't even hear that until it was like kind of said
- 1:19:52out loud. And I was like, I was like, to
- 1:19:55be honest with you, like, and I was actually thinking about the
- 1:19:59CEO of Jack XI was that's what I was thinking and not like, and I
- 1:20:05liked them. I also had that same thought for
- 1:20:07my first job. This guy was so nice.
- 1:20:10He taught me how to build websites and everything.
- 1:20:12Like I'll take you guys on a vacation and stuff.
- 1:20:14Like, you know, I'll get you help you manage your own
- 1:20:16clients. Like, you know, we're really
- 1:20:18gonna build that like out all of this.
- 1:20:20Like he bought me lunch and everything.
- 1:20:22He's grooming you. You got groomed.
- 1:20:23Yeah. Well, no, not like that.
- 1:20:25He was just a genuinely nice guy.
- 1:20:27He was. Yeah, he.
- 1:20:28Was sure that's what he wanted. Grooming.
- 1:20:29Yeah, sure. Grooming in the sense that he
- 1:20:31wanted me to help him run his business.
- 1:20:34So I guess sure in the in the least closer to dog grooming
- 1:20:39than the other kind. More of like pampering.
- 1:20:42That's what I would say he was. He was pampering.
- 1:20:44Well, you you pamper a dog when you groom him.
- 1:20:47Yeah, groomers say they pamper is what they that's what they
- 1:20:50use when they're. So you're implying that they're
- 1:20:51like, they're getting some on the side with the dog.
- 1:20:53I understand that. But, you know, aside, aside from
- 1:20:56your theory about what happens at these places, Yeah.
- 1:20:59He was just sitting there talking to me, showing me how to
- 1:21:01do this website. And, like, he was really patient
- 1:21:04with me. He was, like, really kind.
- 1:21:06And then I thought to myself, I could just punch him across the
- 1:21:08face and ruin this entire friendship and relationship
- 1:21:11right now. I really could.
- 1:21:13Yeah, and and that was more so akin to the thought I had of
- 1:21:17like, there is zero part of me that wants to this guy's nothing
- 1:21:20but nice. I like this guy.
- 1:21:22This is one of those things where like you get that thought
- 1:21:24and you're like, why did I think that?
- 1:21:26Like, I don't like that. And and that's kind of where I
- 1:21:28was going with with Kraken when I was like talking to him.
- 1:21:31I was like, let's see if he has these thoughts too, right?
- 1:21:34Let's see if that's a normal human thought of like, you get a
- 1:21:37weird intrusive thought. And then he just made me feel
- 1:21:39bad about it. He's like, what, you want to
- 1:21:41hate me? I was like, that's not it,
- 1:21:43that's not it. I'm thinking about something.
- 1:21:44He. He absolutely applied to the,
- 1:21:48you know, the criteria of what you were talking about.
- 1:21:49Absolutely. You just met him.
- 1:21:51You just met him. And you asked if he had ever
- 1:21:54felt like punching someone he just met.
- 1:21:56Yeah. And.
- 1:21:57And more so, it was more so for me, I guess the thought process
- 1:22:00was like, I could ruin my entire career right now, if you can
- 1:22:04even call it that. Yeah, I could ruin that by by
- 1:22:07punching the CEO across the face.
- 1:22:10But why would I do that? I like him.
- 1:22:12Also, it would ruin your life. It would ruin your life.
- 1:22:14I really hope he doesn't hear. This.
- 1:22:16Because he will. He will.
- 1:22:17He's. Watching.
- 1:22:18No, no, That guy, I hope he's not.
- 1:22:21He is Jagic. Sorry.
- 1:22:22I hope you're not watching. I don't know if he says yeah,
- 1:22:25he's like such a nice guy. He likes me.
- 1:22:28I like him. He really want like, he loves
- 1:22:30the game, you know? He loves both games.
- 1:22:32You know, he's like a great person for this role, right?
- 1:22:36Yeah. And like, I had a lot of nice
- 1:22:39thoughts about him. Then I was like, you know, just
- 1:22:43that crazy little thought comes in and it's like, it's like a
- 1:22:46thought that's it's like, it's here.
- 1:22:47You're like, what the fuck you. You blow it away.
- 1:22:51And then the rest of the conversation is lovely.
- 1:22:54But for the record, you know, he's probably correctly thinking
- 1:22:59this. If he is hearing this, he could
- 1:23:00knock my ass out. That dude's huge.
- 1:23:03Easily. Dude, yeah, that that dude.
- 1:23:05He'd One Punch Man made and I'd be dead.
- 1:23:08Yeah, we should have a conversation with him and film
- 1:23:10it. And really by accident?
- 1:23:12Yeah. Do you?
- 1:23:13Think he would? Do you think he would?
- 1:23:14Maybe I think, I think we could convince him because I I wanted
- 1:23:17to talk to him. I kept telling him.
- 1:23:18I kept, I kept telling him, I'm like, dude, we need to talk like
- 1:23:22together. I haven't gotten a chance to
- 1:23:23like one-on-one. It was always when I was on my
- 1:23:25way with people to somewhere else and I was like, dude, we
- 1:23:27gotta, I haven't gotten to like talk with you yet.
- 1:23:29You've been talking to everybody.
- 1:23:30I haven't gotten to talk to you. And we never got to the whole
- 1:23:32time. There was never a second SO.
- 1:23:34Yeah, that's a nice one. I once with him.
- 1:23:36He's a, he's a good dude. I really do think he's a good
- 1:23:38dude. Oh yeah.
- 1:23:40I, I think people have a lot of a lot of thoughts about that
- 1:23:44guy. I like him, you know.
- 1:23:47Yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, I think basically everyone
- 1:23:51there including like the impression I got, including from
- 1:23:55like the J mods that like the people that work there, I really
- 1:23:58got the impression that basically everyone there really
- 1:24:01did have like a lot of respect for him.
- 1:24:05And you know, without going too much into it, that guy's got a
- 1:24:08hard job. That's all I'm going to say.
- 1:24:11And I and I will never punch him across the face because he
- 1:24:14would, he would ruin me and he'd be right.
- 1:24:16I. Forgot to bring this up.
- 1:24:17I forgot to bring it up. I have to go get it downstairs
- 1:24:19because this is really cool. Hold on, I have to bring it.
- 1:24:22I got a nose hitch I've been trying to wait on You can't hear
- 1:24:25me but. Dude, J mods are going to have
- 1:24:28to get through all of this shit to get to the part they probably
- 1:24:31want to hear. Good luck to them.
- 1:24:34Hope hope they're here. But yeah, the I and got a copy
- 1:24:37of betrayal at Falador and this is like first edition.
- 1:24:42It's like the last one on Amazon or something.
- 1:24:44But I brought it and I've got like a shit ton of the mods to
- 1:24:50to sign it. I got like Sween.
- 1:24:52I got Elena on there. Ayiza mod Ash.
- 1:24:56Look at that shit mod Ash dude. They all like they, we put it on
- 1:25:00a table and they all all signed it.
- 1:25:02And I was talking to like it was when I was upstairs, I was
- 1:25:08talking like Mod Ash about this book and I was telling him the
- 1:25:13second book in the series, there's only one copy available
- 1:25:18on Amazon and it's 500 dollars, $555.
- 1:25:24And I wasn't going to buy that. So Maud Elena said, oh, I have a
- 1:25:29copy of it at home. And she literally, I went in to
- 1:25:32record the podcast with Aeiza and Sween and she just left it
- 1:25:36on the the chair when I walked in.
- 1:25:39It's just a note to Jimmy and Joy from.
- 1:25:42Oh my God. And she gave me her a copy of
- 1:25:45Return to Return to Canafis. That was awesome.
- 1:25:49She was really nice. She's.
- 1:25:50Incredibly nice. Dude that was like, that was so
- 1:25:52sweet. Dude, do you ever have like this
- 1:25:55whole this thing where you're like, because there's like,
- 1:25:59there used to be like 10 J mods, you know, like, like basically
- 1:26:03like a very short list of J mods.
- 1:26:05Yeah, right. And then there's more and more J
- 1:26:08mods that join. And it's like, I do a pretty
- 1:26:09good job at remembering names. But like, for the most part,
- 1:26:12like I'm, I'm bad with names and like, I'm really good with
- 1:26:15faces. I, I, I'm like, I'm like an
- 1:26:17elephant. I'll remember a face, Right.
- 1:26:20But I think do you remember? Faces.
- 1:26:22Is that a thing? I don't know, maybe they
- 1:26:24remember passwords or some shit, but like I'm, I see a face and
- 1:26:29then I remember it almost always That's I'm very good with that,
- 1:26:34right? I saw Acorn and she was like
- 1:26:37looking at me and I just kind of sat there looking at her like
- 1:26:39this for like 10 seconds. It was probably like 4 but I
- 1:26:43felt like 10 seconds like. Very creepy, yeah.
- 1:26:45And I'm like what the fuck is her name?
- 1:26:49Like what is her J mod name right?
- 1:26:52Yeah, you. Were you were sitting next to me
- 1:26:55too? I'm pretty.
- 1:26:55Sure. I remember the whole thing,
- 1:26:56yeah. You never want to be the guy
- 1:26:58that forgets someone's name and you're like, oh, you didn't
- 1:27:00fucking Remember Me. It's like, no, I did.
- 1:27:02I remembered you. I remembered your face, but I
- 1:27:04just didn't remember your name because I'm bad with it.
- 1:27:06And like I'm just sitting there. I'm still panicking.
- 1:27:09I'm not thinking with my right mind, she said oak tree.
- 1:27:11So I'm just thinking I was like mod oak after she already said A
- 1:27:16and C. Dude, she hated your guts.
- 1:27:19She hated your guts. You to leave.
- 1:27:21Hated my guts and then when she realized that we're in like like
- 1:27:24the little groups to talk about Fuck me sideways slug or
- 1:27:28whatever it was called. Fuck my slug life, yeah.
- 1:27:31Fuck my yeah, fuck my slug life. She's like Oh my God, like I
- 1:27:35don't want to fucking talk about fuck my slug life with this.
- 1:27:39OK, we've been talking way too long, so we're going to stop.
- 1:27:44We're going to stop the conversation that people happen
- 1:27:47to be listening to. That's not not a podcast.
- 1:27:50It's weird. Not really what people have been
- 1:27:53saying. I surely hope not.
- 1:27:55I hope that's just a a rumor. And we, we, we would have some
- 1:27:58names for this if it was a podcast, but it's not.
- 1:28:01Yeah, we'd we'd have a name and ever if this was a podcast, we'd
- 1:28:04have a, we'd have a name, we'd have a brand, a logo.
- 1:28:07And I don't see any of that here, so.
- 1:28:11Leave a like and a comment. Now talk about fuck my slug life
- 1:28:14if you want to see it, you know. Yeah.
- 1:28:19And don't worry, I mean, you're going to see it.
- 1:28:20It's in the content reveal. You'll see.
- 1:28:22You'll see it. Winter.
- 1:28:23Winter summit's coming. No, it's in the summer summit
- 1:28:25that's there. It's an early development.
- 1:28:27In the summer, yeah, you'll see it in the.
- 1:28:28Summer You don't see it in the winter summit the.
- 1:28:30Slug summer's coming the. Slug Mint.
- 1:28:33It's a slug mint dude chewing in.
- 1:28:35OK, goodbye.