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LNC Goes to See Beetlejuice · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Nerdrunk Collider podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always is the
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  Speaker 1: ever patient, ever kind, ever wonderful Johnathan.
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  Speaker 2: Stream me sleepy.
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  Speaker 1: You can't take that from me. I'm so sleepy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are both sleepy here.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it doesn't help that it's kind of like gray
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  Speaker 1: and rainy.
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  Speaker 2: Out And I had, like I had more lunch than
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  Speaker 2: I should have had, so I'm in like that full
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  Speaker 2: post lunch, want to take a nap mode.
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  Speaker 1: I am in sleep deprivation mode, which will be fun.
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  Speaker 1: And I forgot I'm just now realizing I forgot to
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  Speaker 1: make coffee. I could be up here with coffee and
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  Speaker 1: ushers right now, but instead I'm gonna be stumbling to
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  Speaker 1: speak English.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I already I had a cup of coffee this morning.
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  Speaker 2: And because because of my medical fun times, I am
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  Speaker 2: only really allowing myself one cup of coffee a day,
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  Speaker 2: and I am regretting that that decision. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: a decision that my kidneys absolutely require me to make.
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  Speaker 2: But I really wish I could have another cup of
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  Speaker 2: coffee or even just a tea, like like something hot
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  Speaker 2: that could help me kind of get through it.
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  Speaker 1: So could you do like an herbal tea like like
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  Speaker 1: a like an herbal tea that doesn't have actual tea
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  Speaker 1: leaves in it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can do, I believe. So. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: so here's the complicated thing. And Ariel and I have
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  Speaker 2: talked about this. I don't think I've mentioned it on
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  Speaker 2: the show. Maybe I have, because who knows. At this
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  Speaker 2: point my brain is is Swiss cheese. But I have
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  Speaker 2: like a list of food that I'm to not completely avoid,
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  Speaker 2: but to severely limit how much I can have because
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  Speaker 2: otherwise it can cause issues. And they are foods that
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  Speaker 2: have that are high in oxalates because those can contribute
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  Speaker 2: to the types of kidney stones I can develop, which
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  Speaker 2: is one of, but not the only, medical issue that
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  Speaker 2: I face. And so coffee and tea are both on it.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that when they have that they mean
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  Speaker 2: like black tea, like those like tea leaves. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine like rubios and those.
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  Speaker 1: Others like a peppermant or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those might be okay. I honestly don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: do know that, like, for a while I was really
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  Speaker 2: good about avoiding those foods and I was eating other
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  Speaker 2: types of foods, and then my nephrologist told me that
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  Speaker 2: my potassium levels were too high and gave me a
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  Speaker 2: list of foods I needed to avoid that were high
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  Speaker 2: in potassium. And the unfortunate thing is that the list
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  Speaker 2: of one doctor and the list of the other doctor
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  Speaker 2: has like no overlap. Instead, it's just a list that's
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  Speaker 2: twice as long of foods I'm not supposed to have.
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  Speaker 2: And for a while I got really sad about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it might be worth linking into about the
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  Speaker 1: other kind of teas because I know sometimes yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: having a hot beverage helps. You can also do I guess,
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  Speaker 1: do hot water with some lemon and honey. Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, water with lemon is one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that one of my doctors has asked me to drink
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  Speaker 2: more of. So that's what that's typically why I do now,
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  Speaker 2: as I put in a squeeze of lemon juice before
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  Speaker 2: I I bottle up an enormous amount of water. I
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  Speaker 2: actually have a gallon sized water jug. I mean it's
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  Speaker 2: a it's a bottle, but it's a gallon sized bottle,
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  Speaker 2: and I put in quite a bit of lemon juice
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  Speaker 2: in that because it is a gallon. And if I
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  Speaker 2: drink one of those in a day, I better not
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  Speaker 2: have anything planned for the second half of a day
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  Speaker 2: because it's just gonna be uh me walking back and
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  Speaker 2: forth between the bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that. I understand that. So my like, I
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  Speaker 1: have a cardiologist, right because I have trigemony, and he
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  Speaker 1: has also suggested not to have more than a cup
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  Speaker 1: of coffee a day. But I was smart. If you
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  Speaker 1: have two or three cups of decalf it's like the
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  Speaker 1: same amount as one regular cup of coffee, So.
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  Speaker 2: So you just divide the caffeine up into like three
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  Speaker 2: three servings. Yeah, gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I still drink high tests sometimes, but like, if
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna have a soda too, then so.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Welcome to Ariel and Jonathan's Medical Corner, where
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  Speaker 2: we discuss our various medical issues.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, trigemeny is really cool. Well, it's not really cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's not really horrible either. It's just every so often
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  Speaker 1: you get an extra heartbeat. It's just interesting. It fools
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  Speaker 1: fools a lot of like heart rate monitors and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, whereas I just I have high blood pressure,
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  Speaker 2: and there were lots of potential contributing factors and to
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  Speaker 2: this day, not entirely sure what caused the insane spike
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  Speaker 2: in my blood pressure, but it was probably a combination
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  Speaker 2: of different factors. So stuff like you know, stress, diet,
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  Speaker 2: lack of exercise, plus a kidney stone that I had
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  Speaker 2: a pretty massive one which I had to have surgically
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  Speaker 2: removed earlier this year. All of those things, I think
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  Speaker 2: we're contributing factors. So it's not one of those things
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  Speaker 2: where you can just point at one cause and say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: just don't do that and you'll be okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but hopefully you'll find you'll you'll figure it out
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  Speaker 1: and get back to normal.
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  Speaker 2: Well what passes for normal. Yeah, it is me. We're
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  Speaker 2: talking about that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the best any of us can do. Also, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little bit regretting, Like I don't mind talking about
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  Speaker 1: medical stuff. You know, it's important if it helps somebody
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  Speaker 1: else the journey that you're going through. If it helped
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  Speaker 1: somebody else, it's worth sharing. Right. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it'll help any of our listeners, but I do regret
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  Speaker 1: it because our first thirty seconds or less stories very sad.
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  Speaker 1: But then I just remembered that we talked about what
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  Speaker 1: we watched first, So never mind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So instead we're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 2: about the things what we have seen since the last
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  Speaker 2: time we recorded one thing each of us saw individually,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't see it together. We both saw the same thing,
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  Speaker 2: which was Beetle Juice. Beetle Juice. Yes, we saw the
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  Speaker 2: sequel to the Beetel Juice. And so why did you think, Ariel?
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  Speaker 1: So I I was unimpressed. It wasn't a bad movie.
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  Speaker 1: Like I actually watched the first Beetlejuice like a couple
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  Speaker 1: of nights before in preparation, even though I knew that
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  Speaker 1: Burton pretty much said that he didn't really review the original.
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  Speaker 1: Going into the second one, I was like, I want
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  Speaker 1: to and so like the first one is also not
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  Speaker 1: like it's a lot of fun, but it's not like
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  Speaker 1: a brilliant piece of cinema. It meanders, it's slow at times.
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  Speaker 2: Beatle juices in it for like fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I So I saw reviews and some of the
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  Speaker 1: reviews were like, this is so much fun, It's so
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  Speaker 1: good it's doing so well, and I saw Friend and
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  Speaker 1: reviews were like, it's a lot of fun, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not you know, great cinema. It's just a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun and it has flaws. So I went in expecting
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  Speaker 1: a like a good but not great movie, and I
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  Speaker 1: should have set my bar a little lower because it
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  Speaker 1: was an okay movie. The beginning was way too slow.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like the first third to first half was
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  Speaker 1: far too slow, and then once they got to the
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  Speaker 1: underworld mad Caps, it was a lot more fun. I
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  Speaker 1: agree with many people that like there kind of wasn't
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  Speaker 1: time for any particular plot line to play out, so
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  Speaker 1: everything everything did resolve, but very quickly. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind that because it gave it a more beatle, juicy,
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  Speaker 1: phrenetic energy that it was missing in the first half.
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  Speaker 2: But well, yeah, I think part of the problem is that,
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  Speaker 2: like in the first film, we had the Maitlands, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Alec Baldwin and Gena Davis's characters, and so we were
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  Speaker 2: we were experiencing what it means to be dead within
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  Speaker 2: the world of Beatle, just for the first time. So
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of discovery there, right, Like, oh, how interesting,
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  Speaker 2: how weird, how quirky, but we've already done all that
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  Speaker 2: with the first movie. You can't you can't have the
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  Speaker 2: joy of discovery twice. You've already discovered it, so that
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  Speaker 2: part is gone. It also meant that the characters that
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  Speaker 2: we were really invested in in the first film, they're
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  Speaker 2: not there anymore. They're gone, and they're they're departure, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: which makes sense, Like everyone's aged, So how do you
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  Speaker 2: how do you have a film that has characters who
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  Speaker 2: are ghosts, and the ghosts of clearly aged, unless it's Beetlejuice,
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  Speaker 2: who even though you could tell he's aged a lot
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  Speaker 2: through that makeup, it's okay because these Beetlejuice, so they
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  Speaker 2: don't have the maitlands there and they're just sort of
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  Speaker 2: explained away but in their absence, Like Jenna Ortega's character
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  Speaker 2: is kind of who we're meant to be invested in
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  Speaker 2: and follow but her, and she's playing, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of a skeptic. She's the daughter of Lydia Deets, but
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't herself believe in ghosts, and it takes a
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  Speaker 2: long time before she gets to the point where she
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  Speaker 2: does believe in ghosts, which I think is what part
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  Speaker 2: of what makes the story drag. And as you pointed out, Ariel,
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  Speaker 2: there's like four plot lines going through this movie, and
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  Speaker 2: only a couple of them get fleshed out. The one
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  Speaker 2: that I was most excited about, which was the bride
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  Speaker 2: of Beetlejuice returning and wanting to seek him out. She's
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  Speaker 2: barely in the movie and plays like she doesn't impact
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  Speaker 2: the story much at all, apart from driving a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of other tertiary characters who don't have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: impact on the main story. So it almost feels like
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  Speaker 2: that should have been its own movie, this Bride of
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  Speaker 2: Beetlejuice wanting to track Beetlejuice down and make that the
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  Speaker 2: full focus.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But at the same time, that plotline had a
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  Speaker 1: backstory for Beetlejuice that I'm not going to share with
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  Speaker 1: our listeners in case I haven't watched it. And I
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  Speaker 1: also felt like while they delivered it in a fun way,
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  Speaker 1: it was unnecessary. I did not I prefer not knowing
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  Speaker 1: Beetlejuice's backstory.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I go back and forth on it, because,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, they did find a fun way to
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  Speaker 2: present it. That is one of the things I thought
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  Speaker 2: was kind of cool about this movie is that in
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  Speaker 2: at least two sections I think just too they tell
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  Speaker 2: flashbacks by using a different kind of film format than
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  Speaker 2: from the rest of the film, and it's two different ones.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the same film format, and it makes me
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  Speaker 2: wish that they had done that more. I would have
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  Speaker 2: actually liked, like maybe there's another sequence where it was
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  Speaker 2: told through puppetry or something like that would have been
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. But the way I described it was,
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  Speaker 2: I felt that the gags in this movie we were
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  Speaker 2: pretty good that those were what really worked for me
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  Speaker 2: in the film, the gags, whereas the story of the
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  Speaker 2: characters kind of left something to be desired.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the gags only a few of them
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  Speaker 1: hit for me. They hit real well for the people
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  Speaker 1: sitting behind me, which is great.
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  Speaker 2: And some of the gags were repeats from the original Beetlejuice.
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  Speaker 2: Those did not work for me, right, Like the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing where he scares people by having stuff explode out
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  Speaker 2: of his face. I was like, yeah, this is the
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  Speaker 2: exact same joke from the first film. Or the gag
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  Speaker 2: about sealing someone's mouth shut when they're trying to say
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  Speaker 2: his name. That again, same sort of gag. So there
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  Speaker 2: were a couple of those that I found very It
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  Speaker 2: made me think of Mike Myers doing the Austin Powers
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  Speaker 2: movies where he just uses the same jokes, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: here's the part where they do the joke about silhouettes,
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  Speaker 2: or the joke that's all double entendres. It's just strung together.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's kind of felt like that, and I hate
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  Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But the other gags, like not
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  Speaker 2: to give anything away, the train station, I actually really liked.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't understand why they chose what they chose, but
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  Speaker 2: I did like the presentation of it.
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  Speaker 1: I did too, although I did have a couple of
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  Speaker 1: friends who are who are people of color who maybe
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  Speaker 1: didn't appreciate it quite as much.
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  Speaker 2: Got it, Yeah that makes sense, Like, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: I like, I think I liked it for the style
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  Speaker 2: and the presentation, but yeah, from the from the choice
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  Speaker 2: of it, it definitely raises questions.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so no, Like, I agree. I I watched that
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  Speaker 1: scene and I'm like, well, geez, I kind of hope
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  Speaker 1: that does happen if I die, because what a great
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  Speaker 1: way to go. Yeah, But at the same time, Burton
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  Speaker 1: has Tim Burton has historically not had as diverse casting
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  Speaker 1: as people would like.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he has been He has been accused of of
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  Speaker 2: making films that almost exclusively consist of white people for
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  Speaker 2: the cast, and has has made some comments about that
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  Speaker 2: that give me bad feelings.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and like this movie was better, but some
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  Speaker 1: of the some of the more diverse casting was in
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  Speaker 1: very stereotypical roles, which that means I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it is better, but uh, yeah it was, it was, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know until researching the movie that Monica Belushi
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  Speaker 1: was married to Tim Burton.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that either.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the person who played Beetlejuices.
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  Speaker 2: Because before that, before it was him and Helena in
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  Speaker 2: a bottom carter. Yeah yeah, okay, that there's not that
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. There's a pattern, but no.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. The other thing I'll say is circling
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  Speaker 1: back to back to what you said about Jennet Wortega
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  Speaker 1: kind of being a skeptic and taking a while to
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  Speaker 1: be pulled in. That is a rule I learned during LARPing.
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  Speaker 1: If you play a character who kind of nay says
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  Speaker 1: the plot line, you're not going to have much fun.
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  Speaker 1: And when I'm watching a movie about a character who
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  Speaker 1: nay says the plot line, you got to be real
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  Speaker 1: creative or I'm not going to have much fun.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I get really tired of the trope of
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  Speaker 2: skeptic character who is a skeptic in horror movie ultimately
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  Speaker 2: proven wrong because it happens over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I get it for the purposes of
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  Speaker 2: horror movies, but in the real world this is a
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  Speaker 2: really harmful kind of way to approach things, like if
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  Speaker 2: someone is being trying to be a critical thinker and
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  Speaker 2: like other people like, that's where you get into like
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  Speaker 2: denihalism and stuff that gets real ugly. But anyway, the
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  Speaker 2: other thing I will say is that while I thought
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  Speaker 2: Winona Ryter did a great job as Lydia, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: feel like the Lydia and Beetle Juice. Beetle Juice felt
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  Speaker 2: like the same character as the Lydia from the first film.
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  Speaker 1: I was about to say the same thing. She felt
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  Speaker 1: more like Joyce from Stranger Things at the beginning, which
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  Speaker 1: is which is not her fault. There is a point
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  Speaker 1: and I actually tmi. I was at a din In
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  Speaker 1: movie theater and I ate something that disagreed with me.
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  Speaker 1: I had an allergen, so I missed parts of the
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  Speaker 1: movie and I missed the part where they kind of
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  Speaker 1: addressed that. So I thought that that maybe that was
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  Speaker 1: me just missing some plot.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't. I don't think so. I think, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there there was no moment in the film that I
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  Speaker 2: felt adequately explained how she had gone from the character
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  Speaker 2: we know in the first film to the world. I mean, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: like a lot of time has passed, so people do change,
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  Speaker 2: Like I am not the same person I was when
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  Speaker 2: I was a kid, so I can't really be too
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  Speaker 2: head up about this, but it just felt like like
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  Speaker 2: it made me wonder, like, apart from her choice of fashion,
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  Speaker 2: how she still the same character, because that seemed to
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  Speaker 2: me the only thing that didn't change.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think. I mean, like, there are things
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  Speaker 1: that I can reason about it, and I would, except
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  Speaker 1: for I don't want to ruin it. For people who
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen the movie, Well.
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  Speaker 2: What else did you see besides the Beetlejuice Squared?
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  Speaker 1: After Midnight came back? So I watched an episode of that.
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  Speaker 1: I finished season one and started season two of Kevin
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  Speaker 1: kin f himself still delightful, and we finished my group
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  Speaker 1: watch finished Scavenger's Rain, which the group consensus was, well,
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  Speaker 1: that show. That was a show. So it's it's slow,
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  Speaker 1: which is fine. The world building is very cool, but
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it. So Scavenger's Reign is a story
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  Speaker 1: about these people who are in a spaceship going on
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  Speaker 1: this long journey. There are people in like cryo and
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  Speaker 1: all that, and one of them makes a bad decision
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  Speaker 1: and basically harms the ship and everybody gets put into
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  Speaker 1: cryo sleep except for some people who go down, who
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  Speaker 1: are sent to Earth to try to get things set
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  Speaker 1: up so they can rescue everyone, and that does that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't go well for some of them, and it goes
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  Speaker 1: better for some than others. But it's this very very
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  Speaker 1: alien planet and they're all just trying to survive and
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to bring i think the name of the
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  Speaker 1: ship is the Demeter down and get everybody out of cryostasis,
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  Speaker 1: and they're fighting all of these world things like aliens
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  Speaker 1: and creatures and plants that are all very dangerous and
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  Speaker 1: do things that they don't understand. And the first couple
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  Speaker 1: of episodes, those creatures and plants were so well designed
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  Speaker 1: that I was like, I have never seen anything like
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  Speaker 1: this before. By the end, I'm like, that's just a
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  Speaker 1: modified sloth. That's a modified creature from the time machine.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's that's a bird, that's like an em you
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  Speaker 1: so so like, I feel like the creature design got
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: a little more familiar, and maybe that was on purpose
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: to make me feel like I was getting more acquainted
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: with this planet. But yeah, and then the end had
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like an end scene that was just so bizarre. I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: have no idea what it was, and it was meant
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to set up season two, but we don't know if
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: we're getting a season two. So it was a lot
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and got very scary despite being a cartoon. And there
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: is one character who's an antagonist that we ended up
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: calling Uncle. It's a long title. It is a long,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: long title. But he was like a weird alien who
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: kind of messed with people's brains, and so I called
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: him the bad touch Alien, not knowing what he was
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: yet because he's messing with people's memories and things. And
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: by the end of it, it was honorable Judge, We're
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Admiral Comptroller doctor Uncle Touchy Senpi first of his name.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this tells me a lot about your friends.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: It was bad. It was bad. I'm so sorry. I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: know that that's horrible.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: But well, I'm just saying no, I'm saying more like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: like that's the level of sort of goofy in jokeness
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: that I used to engage in. But now I feel
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: like I've transitioned into grouchy old man territory where I
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: just I just hear about that. I just go, yeah,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it's a thing, yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And like it's it's maybe a little I will admit
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit in poor taste, but it was a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: very creepy alien. That being said, we watched it. It
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: was interesting, it was scary. I feel like that kind
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: of thing. What did you watch?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I finally watched The Martian, the film that's adapted after
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the Andy Weir novel The Martian, the one that with
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Matt Damon, and it came out like twenty fifteen that.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I've watched like twenty times, and I can't believe you haven't.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Hadn't watched it before.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: It wasn't on like a streaming service for the longest time,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: but now it's on Max. So I watched it. I
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: had read the novel, so I didn't feel the need
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: to have watched a film, I already experienced the story
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: through the superior medium of the written word, so fair. Yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: So I had read the book and now I was
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: finally watching the movie. Now, granted, I read the book
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: when it first came out, so it's been more than
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: a decade since I read the book. But I enjoyed
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the film. And also it's one of those movies where
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: it's been clipped so many times and those clips have
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: been like uploaded to YouTube that I felt by the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: end of it, I was like I might have gotten
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: about twelve minutes of footage that I had not seen,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: just you know, in bits and snippets throughout the years
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: on YouTube because I would always click through to watch.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I want to see how this
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: scene plays out in the film. And by so I'm
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: watching this and I'm like, yep, I've seen this bit. Yep,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: seen this bit. So there's only a little bit that
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I had not seen, but still found it enjoyable. It's
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: very entertaining.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I thought it was very well cast.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Well cast, slightly less realistic than the novel, but even
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the novel has to take some liberties. For example, the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: atmosphere on Mars is so thin that I don't think
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: even major storm would be enough to like push you
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: over right like you wouldn't because the atmosphere is then
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: it's not thick enough to do that. It's strong enough
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to hold dust, so you would have dust completely blocking
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: your vision. Also, the gravity on Mars is like a
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: third of what it is on Earth. So seeing him
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: strained to pick stuff up, I'm like, well, I guess
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: maybe you could have a lot of muscle atrophy in
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the nine months it would take you to get to Mars.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: But he looks pretty buff, and I'm sitting there thinking like, no,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you'd be able to lift that no problem, because it
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: weighs a third of what it would on the planet Earth.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: You misunderstood. You thought he was struggling to lift things up.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: He was struggling for them not to fly away.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Ah, sure, yeah, that's what it was. So anyway, anyway, obviously,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: like they're shooting on Earth, they're going to have I mean,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: they're obviously going to have the limitations of the planet.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I should not expect anything else. But it just was
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: one of those things that would pull me out because
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: knowing about Mars, it starts to you know, you start
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: to say, like, well, that really shouldn't be an issue,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: whereas other things absolutely enormous issues. It did make me
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: wonder who would design a Martian mission that would only
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: last thirty or so Martian days, Because in order to
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: make the journey between Earth and Mars, you have to
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: wait until the planets are getting ready to line up
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: where they're on the same side of the Sun, so
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: they're the closest they're going to be, So that means
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you have the least amount of space you have to travel,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: and that means the least amount of fuel you need
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: in order to make the journey by the time you
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: get to the planet, like and this is planning everything
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: out way in advance, because you know, obviously you can't
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: leave when the plants are aligned, because as you're traveling,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the plants are going to move out of alignment and
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: get further and further apart. So it's kind of like
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: planning where Mars is going to be. But by the
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: time you land there, then the Earth and Mars are
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: no longer lined up, so that you can make the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: return trip home easily. So the general belief is that
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: if we were to send people to Mars, they would
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: need to stay there for like two years so that
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the planets would be lining up again properly in order
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: to make the journey back home and not require more
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: fuel than you could possibly take with you. So again,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: like I'm watching this, but that was the problem with
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the book too.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Is Mars Day is a Mars day as long as
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: an Earth day.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Though Mars Day, I think it's actually a little longer.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: But even so, it's not two years long.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Because like I mean, you think, like conceptually you'd be like, Okay,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: we don't want to stay more than thirty days because
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: we don't have We don't want to cause more stress
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to our bodies from being on the Martian landscape than.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: That, you know, sure, absolutely, yeah, yeah, because I mean also,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Mars lacks the protection of Earth's atmosphere and magnetosphere, Like
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: it does have a magnetosphere, but it's very weak. It
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: has very very thin atmosphere, so you don't have much
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: protection from things like solar radiation and.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: So, which is a part of the story.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so you don't want to be out there
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: for too long without being able to protect yourself. Anyway.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: That's me ranting about space in a movie that ultimately
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: was very entertaining and I very much enjoyed it. So
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: that's just the way my brain works is if I
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: watch something where I know about the topic, that's constantly
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: going to be going through the back of my head
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: even while I'm enjoying the film.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: You're just tooting, dang, smart John.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Only about certain things.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But that's a lot of certain things. You're smart about
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of certain things.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Something I am smart about is how
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: long thirty seconds is. But what I'm bad about is
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: keeping keeping news items to thirty seconds. But now it's
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: time to transition to our thirty seconds or less.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: What a nice segue, And we're going to start with
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the news that everybody knows. But we would be remissed
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: not to mention, which is that James Earl Jones passed away.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He was ninety three, which is, you know, a nice
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: long run. It still feels way too soon, because in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: my mind he is not ninety three. He played such
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: iconic roles as Mufasa, the voice of Mufasa, and the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: voice of Darth Vader, and the Dad in Coming to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: America and so many many other things, and he will
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: be missed.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll always think of him as the weird priest
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: carecharacter and the Exorcist too. No, I'll think of him
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: as Darth Vader. Of course, I'll think of him as
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Darth Vader. Well. Some other serious and sad news. As
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: we have mentioned in previous episodes of Large Nurgron Collider,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: author Neil Gaiman is at the center of several allegations
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: regarding sexual harassment and assault, and it should come as
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: no surprise that some of the projects based on his
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: work have now been put on hold or canceled. That
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: includes the Disney Plus adaptation of the young adult novel
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: The Graveyard Book, as well as Amazon's third season of
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Good Omens, which is based off a book that Neil
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Gaiman wrote with Terry Pratchett.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Breaking news on that last thirty seconds or less, Neil
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Gaman has made an offer to Amazon two step away
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: from Good Omens season three, which is in pre production
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: or was in pre production, so that they can continue
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: getting it done without his health, so that the fans
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and the show and the actors still en stuffer from
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: his allegations.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which, you know, that's a big move on
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: his part. I think it's probably the only way that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: project could potentially move forward given what the allegations are.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: But they're considering it. They're considering it, but no final
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: decisions have been made.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: So maybe by the time this goes out, depending on
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: when I'm finished editing it, we'll know. But in the meantime,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty eight, Steve McQueen and Faye Dunaway starred
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: in The Thomas Crown Affair about a wealthy man who
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: also happens to be a bank robber and the investigator
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: who gets let's say, romantically entangled with him. The film
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: was remade in nineteen ninety nine with Pierce Brosnan and
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Renee Russo, and now it's slated to get remade again.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: So who is stepping into the very expensive shoes as
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: the thief this time? That would be Michael B. Jordan.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: He will direct and star in the film for Amazon
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: MGM Studios.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Nice. Next, we have news that we may in fact
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: be getting a fourth Spider Man movie. Sony wasn't certain,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: but they were considering it. Because now they are talking
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to depending on the report, either have already gotten him
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: or are in talks with Dustin Daniel Cretton to direct
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the next movie. No word also whether or not it
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: will have Tom Holland. But my guest will be yes.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: If that name sounds familiar, it's because he was the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: director for shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: which was a fantastic movie.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really underrated MCU film. I think that was one
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: of the ones that because it came out around the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: same time as like things like The Eternals, which you
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: know was not so good, but shang Chi was a
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: lot of fun. Yeah. Well, Josh Brolin has been Thanos
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: in the Avengers films. He was Cable in Deadpool two.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: He was Jonah Hex in Jonah Hex. But one comic
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: book character he will not be bringing to life on
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: screen is how Jordan, aka one of the Green Lanterns.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: The Hollywood Reporter says Brolin was offered the role, but
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: he passed on it to be in Lanterns, a series
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: about the Green lantern Core. No word on what guided
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: his choice, but I'm sure it wasn't exactly a snap decision.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Good because he was Thanos. Snap decision.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we all get it, okay.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty three, we learned that we were
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: getting new Lord of the Rings movies from Peter Jackson.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Now we know that one of those, maybe the first one,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: will be The Hunt for Gollum, coming out as early
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: as twenty twenty six, and we know because Ian McKellen
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: might be returning his Gandalf. He said that he expects
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to see descript in twenty twenty five and decide whether
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: he wants to be a part of the movie at
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: that time. But he also said, in the long line
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: of directors to need people to edit them down, that
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: it might be The Hunt for Gollum might be two movies.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: You all, it does not need to be two movies long.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: The Hobbit did not need to be three movies long.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: But that makes sense. I really loved the original trilogy,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: so I'm not like dissing Peter Jackson because the original
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: trilogy was fantastic.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: But well, yeah, the first one was my favorite, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: then I liked the second one a little less, and
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I liked the third one a little less than the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: second one, But I liked all of them. I just
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: loved the first film and the other ones anyway, last
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: one for me here. Eight years ago, Rogue one came
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: out in theaters. The film included a digital replica of
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: actor Peter Cushing, who played grand Moth Tarkin in A
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: New Hope who passed away in nineteen ninety four. Lucasfilm
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: had cleared Cushing's digital appearance with his state, but one
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: of Cushing's old friends, Kevin Francis, claims that Cushing granted
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Francis those rights and Francis didn't give Lucasfilm permission. The
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: matter is now headed to court and may impact how
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: AI can be used in future films.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Very interesting, I have a question for you.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Ask me your question.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Uh, this, I haven't prepared you for this, but it
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: was something that came up at the end of Scavenger's
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Reign and I meant to mention it during what we
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: had been watching. Uh, if if you were caught in
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: a creepy alien situation, who would you want by your
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: side to protect you from the aliens?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Mmm? Who would I want by my side to protect me?
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Dave Bautista.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. They my friends when they posited this question,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: originally said who's the best at killing aliens? And I'm like, well,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: that's not the greatest.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we all know the answer to that question.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Well exception exception of like I might slightly disagree. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: think Thanos is better at it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's indiscriminate. He's going to kill half your friends too.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, anyhow, it was just it was just a question.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I think Dave Patista is a very good answer.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: My coin flip, coin flip, chance of getting out yourself.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: My my, my cool answer is readA VERTASKI from Edge
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: of Tomorrow.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: So oh, so you were naming a character as opposed.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: To or Emily Blunt. I'd also take Emily Blunt.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean having Mary Poppins on your side, even
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: if it's not the original one. Not a bad choice, No,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: not at all, not at all.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, now.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: It's time for us to talk about a crap ton
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: of movie trailers.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let's see if I can remember which ones
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: are which.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Ariel, first of all, can you tell me
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: what is the franchise about?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, so, during the pandemic, Netflix came out with a
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: movie called The Bubble about people trying to make No,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: actually has nothing to do with it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: It did remind me of that.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's us. Yeah, so I'll work back to that.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: The franchise is an HBO show about people making a
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: making a superhero movie and it looks like it's a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: bad movie, and just all of the turmoil of on
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: set and personal turmoil of all of it. And yeah,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: when I watched the trailer, it reminded me of the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Netflix b movie The Bubble, in which everybody goes to
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: make like a Jurassic Park type movie during the pandemic
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: and nobody's allowed to leave until the end of the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: movie and mad capness ensues. So yeah, but now HBO's
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: behind it, so it looks slightly higher quality.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: It also made me think a little bit of Tropic Thunder.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: In that Tropic Thunder you have, you know, like Tom
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Cruise's character Les Grossman, who is a producer who comes
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: in to interfere with the whole film production because he
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: things are going over budget and taking too much time
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and he doesn't have the patience for that. And even
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: though the character is a supporting character, he plays a
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: really big part of the story of Tropic Thunder. As
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I was watching this, I was like, oh, yeah, here's
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the producer character who's like, I'm not going to pay
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: for this if you guys don't get your act together.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: That kind of that's the kind of vibe I was getting.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, you have all your other kind of stereotypical
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Hollywood comedy stuff when Hollywood makes a comedy about the
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: film industry, so that includes things like insecure actors, a
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: director who's just trying to get something made, you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: while also going through his own personal issues at home,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So it looks it looks like
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be entertaining. Honestly, I watched the trailer
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: again before we started recording, and while I was watching it,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, I recognize all these things being set
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: up as comedy, like it's set up as a joke,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: but none of this is making me laugh. I am
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: finding it entertaining.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is honestly, when I say about a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: lot of HBO stuff, I'm like, that's entertaining. It wasn't
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: like laugh out loud, but it was entertaining. The cast.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: The cast for it. They have some big names in it,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Billy magnuson lay Out of Faux Pay. I don't know
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: how to pronounce her last name, but she was in LOVECFT,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Lovecraft Country and Scavenger's Reign, and also Loki and Deadpool three.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Richard E. Grant and Daniel Brule and yeah, so.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Richard D. Grant. He can be a
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: really fun character actor. I love watching him and stuff. Uh.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Next up, we got a teaser for wolf Man, So
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: another revisit of a classic universal horror movie, Monster and
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: and it it really centers on the uh presumed like
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Canthrop's struggles of going through this change while also having
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: a family and not wanting to give the family up
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: but also wanting to protect the family. So it looks intense.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: It does. It looks very scary, which I understand is
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: needed if you're rebooting the classic Monsters, they need to
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: sit up to today's standards. But you know, that makes
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: it harder for me to watch. Part of the thing
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I liked about the Originals is that it was It
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: was scary and it was suspenseful, but it was still palatable.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I honestly like it looked It looked good, but it
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: didn't look quite as intriguing to me as There was
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: another movie trailer we watched in like the last couple
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of months that had a similar storyline like is this
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: dad really.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Really oh right right right? Like or possessed or something? Yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I remember, I don't remember remember what that movie was,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: But I do remember the trailer.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and that one seemed a little bit more
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: interesting to me than this one. This one seems pretty
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: cut and dry and like it may not fall too
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: far from the original concept.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I will say that out of all the
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: attempts to bring the Universal Monsters back to screen over
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the last decade and a half or however long it's been,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: this one looked the most interesting to me. I Now,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: to be fair, I didn't watch a lot of those
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: movies because I just never got to the point where
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: those trailers interested me enough to actually take the plunge
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and watch the film. So like, I haven't seen Benicio
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: del Toro's wolf Man movie, right, I haven't seen that one,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And but that's because I just didn't feel like intrigued,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Whereas this one I felt was a little bit more
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: effective for me personally. I'm not saying it's going to
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: be a better movie, but it just it it held
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: my attention better than the other more recent attempts to
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: bring Universal back, you know, in the Monster Realm.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I agree. I'm I'm excited to see what they do
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: with Creature from the Black Lagoon. I'm still on the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: fence on whether I'm gonna see Nosfaratu this Christmas. I
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: think I'll have to see a couple more trailers and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: maybe read a spoiler review first.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't have a good read on whether
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Nosferato is going to be a good film yet. So
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: for me, it's more of a concern about does the
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: movie work as a movie. I'm not too concerned about
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the scariness part.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I think I think it'll work as a movie. I
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: worry about it being too gross or depraved for gross
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and depraved sake, which sometimes can hurt a story. But
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that is not the case with the next trailer we're
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: going to talk about Aaron Kopovich.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to call this next one sweet d
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Solves crimes.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, except for it looks a lot more heartfelt. So
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: there's a series coming out called High Potential about this
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: woman who's got like three kids and she's a single mom,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and she's a janitor and she goes around and she
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: messes with the cops like evidence boards at.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Night because she works as a genitor at the police precinct.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's she's got good like insight and I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: for detail, and she's like now you got this wrong.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: So she'll just write notes and like mess with their
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: evidence to be like, you got this wrong. So it's
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: kind of got like a like a castle kind of
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a vibe to it too. But it started off looking
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: funny and it ended up feeling very heartfelt by the
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: end of the trailer.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, I mean part of it is that it
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: does have actors that you might more associate with comedies, right, like, oh,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: that's the actress from Scrubs.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Carla, she played Carlo the nurse.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yet right, Oh that's the actress from It's Always Sunny
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. And yeah, there are a lot of folks
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: in there who have had work in like sitcoms and
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: other types of comedies, and now they're in kind of
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: a procedural. And the main character is sort of a
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Sherlock style character in that she's just hyper observant and
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: very good at drawing connections between things. I thought the
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: trailer looked kind of fun. I mean, I don't fall
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: into a lot of these kinds of series, but this
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: was one where I was like, Okay, this feels like
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: it could be another fun twist on the extremely gifted
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: detective genre of things like Sherlock and House and Monk
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: and that sort of stuff.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't often fall into those, but I do
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: have ones. I like, like I watched Castle, I watched Bones,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: you know. So surprisingly enough, the creator of High Potential
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: was also the writer for Cabin in the Woods and
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the producer for Bad Times at the l Royal and
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Lost and The Martian, so that's also some and the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: executive producer for The Good Place. So that's some possibly
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: positive light on it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Next up, we've got a trailer for an animated series
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: on Netflix called Leviathan. This is an adaptation of a
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: young adult novel series that is kind of a magical
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: alternate history version of the events leading up to an
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: including World War One, but imagine that World War one.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Instead of it being the Axis and Allies type of stuff,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: well that's World War two, but you know, instead of
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: it being at those two camps, it's one group. Their
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: whole warring approach is to use enormous machines, like steampunk
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: type machines, and the other group they genetically create animals
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: that end up being their like warfaring equipment and vehicles
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: and such. So you've got like this enormous airship. That's
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: built around a flying whale, for example, and yeah, a
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: lot of elements of science fiction and fantasy. I am
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: unfamiliar with the book series. But the trailer, which didn't
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: have any dialogue in it, it was just set to
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: a song. It was it looked really like the art
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: style looked super neat, and the ideas looked really kind
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: of interesting.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: It's very pretty, And when I first watched it, I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: wasn't sure if it was going to be a problematic
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: story or not. I'm going to be real honest, and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I had to look into it a little bit more.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: But it also does focus on this girl who who
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: dresses up as a boy to go join the army,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: so kind of Twelfth nightish a little bit.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The one downside of this particular, I would
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: call it more of a teaser than a trailer, even
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: though the series is coming out like in less than
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: a month. One downside I would say is that with
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: the lack of dialogue, you really don't get an idea
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: of what the story is. You just kind of get
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: to see a bunch of different little sequences from you know,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: from what unfolds that give you an idea of the esthetic.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say. I thought it was very pretty.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: They show like a jellyfish type creature at one point,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and I went down a giant rabbit hole because I'm like,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: why is this jellyfish? So Georgia O'Keefe, but I never
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: found an answer. Yeah, but now my search is all
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: messed up.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, that's Heaven help you when you go on
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: TikTok now. But uh yeah, it's essentially standing in for
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: a parachute, like it's a it's wild. But yeah, that
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: that one actually looks and it made me honestly curious
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: about the book series. Yeah, same, same because at first
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, well, this is an anime. I
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: wonder if it's based off anything, and the novel was
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: not written by a Japanese author. It's it's a Western novel,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: but it's a you know, a Japanese style or at
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: least an I don't know if it's all of Japan,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: but it does like an anime style adaptation of that story.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks vaguely like me as Zaki, very vaguely
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the Glassblower style that he was an Iranian movie that
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: came out recently.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that one too, where it
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: was also kind of a magical realism story, as I recall.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now I don't want to make sure I don't
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: remember anyhow, it was a very pretty movie. I might
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: have gotten the country wrong, and if I did, I'm
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: very very sorry. Get it right.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I think it was Iran.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I think you're right, Okay, the it's just important because
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: it was like the first of that kind of movie
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to that, Yes, I remember that. We know about next.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: We've got a trailer for Citadel, Diana. It's an Italian companion.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I'm reading. I'm just reading Jonathan's notes off of our
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: notes page to Citadel. The Citadel series on Amazon, which
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I did not watch but I heard was not great.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the one that was produced by the
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Russo brothers. It's kind of like their big thing that
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: they were doing after they were done with the Avengers films.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: So if you're unfamiliar with Citadel, you could be forgiven
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: because if you're like you know Ariel or myself, you
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: haven't watched It's it's like a spy series. And the
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: original Citadel series on Amazon it was directed by someone else,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: like the Russo's didn't direct that they were producing, but
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: the plan from the beginning was to have a bunch
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: of different companion series, each set in different parts of
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: the world, produced in those parts of the world, directed
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: by people from those parts of the world, starring people
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: from those parts of the world, shot in their regional language,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: and then launched. So Citadel Diana is the first of those,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: and it's as Ariel said, said in Italy, others will
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I think the next one is in India. But the
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Citadel Prime series, which is in English, is also coming
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: back for another season. And from what I understand, Russo,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: one of the Russo brothers, don't know which one one
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: of them will be directing those. So I also remember
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: hearing like kind of just sort of just lackluster response
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: to Citadel. Maybe this is a real hard push to
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: try and get this massive plan back on track, because
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: it sounds to me like Amazon sunk a huge amount
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: of capital into making this happen, and if it all
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: just fizzles out, it will just be an enormous write off.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, next we have.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I like that to have nothing else to add. I mean,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: it's a spy it's a spy series.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: It's a spy thing. There's some weird tech. I'm gonna
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: be honest, I was. I was hitting a very sleepy
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: point when I watched that trailer, so that one didn't
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: stick as much with me. Next we're going to talk
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: about It's What's Inside, which is like Game Night meets
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Freaky Friday.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It also was making me think of other recent
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: horror movies that have come out, like the one where
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: they had the Demonic Hand or Tarot or you know,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: where it's a bunch of friends all coming together and
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: they experience something that's sort of paranormal, supernatural or in
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: this case, science fiction y, and then that's where the
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: rest of the story kind of unfolds from that moment.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: So in this case, you've got a bunch of young adults,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: including a one who just struck me as insanely obnoxious,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: the one who's the game master one anyway, all gathered
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: together and they hook themselves up to a machine and
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: it's not entirely clear from the trailer what exactly happens,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: but the implication I felt that was there was that
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: their brains all get swapped around so that they end
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: up inside the bodies of like everyone ends up in
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: someone else's body.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And Sexy Time and evil time, and all
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: those times occur because what do you do when the
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: consequences aren't to your physical person right right?
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Like if you're like, oh, well, eventually, I'm going to
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: be returned to my body. In the meantime, like you know,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I can do all these things in this body that
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: isn't mine and raises lots of ethical questions and things
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: of that nature, and you get the feeling that at
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: least some of the people in this group of friends
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: are not the best people. Maybe they're not maybe they're
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: not the outright bad, but they make poor life decisions.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this movie is the concept is cool. The
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: trailer did not make me feel like I would appreciate
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the execution. Though I don't think it looks bad. It
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: just doesn't look like it's necessarily for me.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious about it. I think the challenge for
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: me is that there needs to be at least one
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: or two characters that I really empathize with. If it's
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people that I just look at as
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: a bunch of jackasses, I am not going to enjoy it.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I need to be invested in at least a character,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and this trailer didn't do that. But largely that was
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: because it was kind of focusing on the guy who
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: somehow got access to this technology, and.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: He just is obviously not the hero.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: No, he just struck me as the biggest butt face ever.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to use the right language knowing our demographic here,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: but I would be using some colorful metaphors if ever
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: on a different show, for sure. However, the next one,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: so this next movie is a French film. It's in French,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: so it's subtitle or subtitled or dubbed I guess, depending
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: on the cut. But it's called Family Pack. It's actually
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: an adaptation of were Wolves of Miller's Hollow I believe
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: is the full name of the game, but it's were Wolf, right.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: It's that card game where you're either a villager or
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: you're a were wolf, and every night the were wolves
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: kill a village and then the surviving villagers. Their job
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: is to suss out who's the werewolf and to eliminate
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: the were wolves turn by turn, which each turn is
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: a day and ends with night where the were wolves
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: get to do another kill. So the goal is to
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: identify and eliminate the were wolves before all the villagers
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: get killed. That's the game. So this film is based
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: off that, and it's kind of Jumanji but with were
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: wolf and in French.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Yes and goofy is it looks very goofy and fun.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: It doesn't look scary. No, I.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Have to be honest. The gag at the end of
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: this trailer made me laugh out loud. I snort laughed
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: at the end of this trailer, and then I was like,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: maybe that's just my own mean spirited sense of humor.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: It's not that mean spirited. It's more I think it's
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: more Monty python ish.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: But then I show Becca because I was like, I
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: need a second opinion. I'm not going to tell her
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: what happens. I showed her the trailer. At the end
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: of it, she goes, ha, I.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Also leaught pretty hard, not gonna lie.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna watch this like me too. I
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: had not heard anything about it. But it's also fun
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: to watch, like Leon the professional being a kind of
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: a grandfather figure, which is wild blows my mind.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll watch it too. It's sometimes hard to
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: get my husband to watch movies with subtitles, just because again,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: if you're reading, you have a hard time paying attention
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: to the movie, and it's not the way he prefers
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: to enjoy media. But he likes reading books. But then
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: you aren't having to I guess.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Your attention isn't divided. Yeah.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know if I'll be watching this
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: one alone. But I you know, if you had told me, yeah,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: we're making a movie based off the game where Wolf,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, this is bad. This is as bad
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: as Battleship.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, well, because well because it made me think
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: of were wolves within.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I watch that one.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: So that was the one that was directed by It's
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: one of the guys who's always on make some noise.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, I did not watch Josh Rubin and I didn't
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: watch it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's with with Vaine trub as one of the
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: main characters, the actress who I think, for American audiences
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: was best known as being the best buy Yes, yeah,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Guillermo from What We Do in the Shadows and I uh,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: I've so that's a movie. I don't know that I
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: can recommend the movie because I don't know that it's
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: good enough to recommend. But all the performances are fun.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: It's just that the story is a little.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: A little.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Uneven. Yeah, but Vain trumb doesn't. She like carries that film.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: She's she always does a great job. But I look
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: forward to seeing Family Pack. I'll watch that before I
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: watch were Wolves Within as much as I love watching
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Josh Rubin do his work and the other actors. This
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: next trailer and we're gonna I'm gonna have We're gonna
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: have to speed up a little bit, Jonathan sure, this
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: next trailer. I definitely will not watch this movie. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: could barely get through the trailer. It hits on my X,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: which is for a movie called Little Bites.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you want to know what the short
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: version of this film description is, I'm gonna read it
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: as it was written in IMDb. So quote. In a
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: desperate attempt to protect her ten year old daughter, a
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: young widow allows a nightmarish monster to slowly eat her alive.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: End quote.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Hate it, hate it, hate it.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Like I conceptually, you know, the tagline on the trailer's
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: motherhood will consume you, And we talked about that last
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: week with the night Bitch trailer. So it's conceptually not
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: bad that I don't nope.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Squick yeah, yeah, this is taking this is taking the
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: concept and really dialing the horror part up quite a bit. Yeah,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: it's funny because funny, funny in the weird way. It's
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: funny because the title Little Bites doesn't communicate to you
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: how horrific the actual presentation is. But this trailer does
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: a good job at making this a horror film, like,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: like your appropriate response is to be horrified by what
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: is going on, and that they take that seriously in
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: this trailer.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, accomplished, accomplished.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this would be on my list of things
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: to see in Ariel's list of things she never needs
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: to think about ever.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Again, that is absolutely true. We got a trailer for
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Salem's Lot, which is a vampire story yet by Stephen
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: King that eventually bleeds into Dark Tower kind of vaguely.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Father Callahan shows up in the Dark Tower series. Yeah. Yeah,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: so this was written in the nineteen seventies. Fun fact,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I'm actually listening to the audiobook version of Salem's Lot,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: which I was doing before I even remembered that there
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: was a film version. So this movie was supposed to
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: come out back in twenty twenty two, it didn't, and
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: it has been kind of on the shelf since then.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: And in fact was one of those projects where people
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: were wondering if Warner Brothers Discovery was just gonna acts
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: this the way they did with Matt Girl. And in fact,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: it's not getting a theatrical release. It's going to Max
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I think, at least not getting a theatrical release here
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: in the United States. I think in other parts of
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the world it is, but not here in the US.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: There's also all these rumors about whether the film works
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: or it doesn't work, any pro problems that came up,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: you know, whether or not there were other reasons why
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: it wasn't released over the last two years. So I
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: don't know if there's any validity that I know. There
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: are plenty of YouTube channels that have been speculating wildly
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: without a shred of evidence when we were or another
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I am. I'm curious about this movie because Salem's Lot
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: is one of those early Stephen King books that really
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: established him as a horror novelist. But I gotta say
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the trailer just didn't really do much for me. I
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: didn't really like it that much, which is a shame
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: because as I'm listening to the book, I'm enjoying the book.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have not read much Stephen King, and I've
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: watched very little as well. I've now watched, I think
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: the paramount version of The Stand I've watched the mini
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: series of it and the new recent remake and stand by.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Me of course, Shawshank Redempson.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I did watch shash Ank Redemption. I watched Green Mile,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if Green Miles Stephen.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: King, Yes, it is Green Miles staking.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: And I did watch one and a half seasons of
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Castle Rock, which I quite enjoyed. And I watched the
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Dark Tower movie, so I guess I've watched more than
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I thought. And Misery anyhow, Now you gotta watch.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Now, you gotta watch The Langeliers because it's so bad.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: It is so I'm familiar with it.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: It's well it does. It does have a very unfortunate
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: person in that series, so you'd be forgiven for skipping.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: It the first time. There are many times that I
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: can get through a movie if that happens. Not always,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: but many.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: The the first time I heard about Salem's Lot was
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: watching Castle Rock, because, of course, all of Stephen King's
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: stories collide in that television show from I guess more
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: than a few years back. Now, it's probably closer to
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: like five, but I wasn't super familiar with it. This
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: trailer doesn't incredibly grab me the storyline. It feels like
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: a ho hum vampire story. But my husband did share
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: like some of Father Callahan's journey both in Salem's Lot
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: and then crossed over into Dark Tower, and I absolutely
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: love that little plot line. I thought that was really cool.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I remain curious about Salem's Lot. I mean,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: since it's coming to Max and I'm a subscriber to Max,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I'll probably watch it, but I don't have particularly high
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: hopes for this film adaptation. I also get the feeling
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: like they so big spoiler for Salem's Lot, I guess,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: but you know, we've already said it's a vampire story.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: There are two main antagonists in the story. One of
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: them is the vampire and the other one is the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: vampire's familiar, and the familiar is the one that has
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: way more interaction with most of the characters. The vampire
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: is kind of held back in reserve and is a factor,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: but is not really that prevalent a character, so much
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: so that when I went to IMDb to look at
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: the list for Salem's lot. That character is not even
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: listed in the cast. The vampire, which is Kurt Barlow,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: is his name, but he doesn't that character. No character
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: by that name showed up on the cast list, at
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: least as I was looking at IMDb, whereas his familiar
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Straker was maybe.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: It's the same actor, much like how in Venom, Tom
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Hardy is both Eddie Brock and Venom.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Great segue, thank you, yeah.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: So yeah. We've got the final trailer out for Venom,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the Last Dance, and this one made me a little
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: bit sad honestly. Like I liked the first Venom movie,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched the second one, but it is a
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: delightful chemistry that Tom Hardy has with himself in the movie.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Finally someone who can work well with Tom Hardy.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: And I think it's one of his better characters, quite honestly.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Like he's a good actor. I liked him in Fury Road,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: but and I liked him fine as Baine despite all
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: the jokes. But I think he does a great job
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: in it, and it's it's very it's a very bittersweet
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: trailer because it alludes to the fact that Venom and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Eddie are gonna have to part ways, and then Eddie's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: gonna die of cancer.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, Eddie, you and I will have to part ways.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's Baine is vain Venom?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I like it?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bainim Uh. I have no emotional investment in this
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: because I hadn't watched either of the first two films,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: so I thought the trailer was fine. Like I thought
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: it looked like if you're if you're into the Venom movies,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: this looks like another one. Uh, and not in the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: bad way. Like, I don't mean to be dismissive, it's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: just because I haven't watched the other two. I don't
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: feel drawn to watch this one. I feel like I
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: would just not understand what was going on.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: It's brilliant cinema compared to some of the other stuff.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: So sure, yes, right, but me like me looking at
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: a dead television is brilliant cinema compared to say, Morbius
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: or Madam Webb.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: You know I've said that I have not brought myself
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: to watch either.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I tried, I tried, I couldn't like, and I watched
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: border Lands, but I.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I was wanted to say, what's worse Mobius, Morbius or Borderlands.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: I think Morbius. But but it's also because I have
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: strong feelings about the lead actor and Morbius that yeah.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Same, he's done some stuff that I find unprofessional.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Uh. The next movie we have is next trailer is
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: for something that looks absolutely delightful called Your Monster. It's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: kind of it's a it's an indie film, and it's
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: like kind of Beauty in the Beast dish. Yeah, kind
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: of both Beauty and the Beast.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Right, like so kind of Beauty and the Beast if
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: the Beast was also trying to help turn you into
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: from a from a blow to a wow like that.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Like it's almost like like like what if Beauty and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: the Beast mixed with queer eye for the straight guy
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: kind of thing, with the main character being a young
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: woman who is absolutely devastated because her boyfriend has broken
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: up with her and it turns out there's a beast
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: man secretly living in her home.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, who's supposed to represent her rage because she's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: a very The character is a very soft spoken actress
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: who kind of gets walked all over and yeah, is
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: a people pleaser, which I relate to not at all.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And she he has these interactions with the Beast
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: character who is very sardonic and kind of sarcastic and
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: uh and trying to help her begrudgingly trying to help
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: her through her grieving process and to kind of go
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: on a journey of self discovery in the wake of
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: this this jerk dumping her. And I love this trailer.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, Me too. It gave me like updated
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: vibes of like the old Beauty and the Beast TV
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: show with Linda Hamilton and Ron Pearlman a little bit,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: except for this Beast was completely happy with his lone noss.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Do we even say what the title was if we didn't?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Your Monster your Monster? Yeah? Why? Oh you are your
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: as this monster is your monster? Yeah? I agree. It
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: did have a very Beauty and the Beast kind of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: feel to it, as in the Linda Hamilton Beauty and
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: the Beast television series, because the Beast design kind of
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: reminded me of that Ron Pearlman's version of the.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, plus it's set in modern day and the Beast
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: is well acquainted with society and culture and all those stuff.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I think I'll check this out because
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: it looks fun.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Me too comes out in October, so we don't have
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: to wait that long. Next is a trailer for a
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: cartoon called Twilight of the Gods that if you watch
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: it on one point five speed is a reasonable pace.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Produced by Zack Snyder, which will be a surprise to
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: nobody once they start watching this trailer, which.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Is why I said if you watch it sped up
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit, it's at a reasonable pace.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: If you think that Zack Snyder mostly makes movies where
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: it's action figures slamming against each other until one of
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: them breaks. This is more of that, but in cartoon form.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's about a Norse woman, a Viking woman something yeah. Yeah,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: and Thor I guess, kills her husband and she wants revenge.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she meets her husband when the two of
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: them are in battle. She saves him from being killed
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: when it's like this massive skirmish that's going on, which
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: absolutely makes the man smitten with her, which, hey, great
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: example of masculinity there. He's not at all embarrassed or
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: ashamed that a woman has saved his life. He's appreciative
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: and falls in love with her. Love that Thor for
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: some reason, like apparently he didn't give permission for this
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: woman to get married, so he comes down and kills
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: the husband, and she takes a shue with that, so
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: she works with Loki to figure out a way where
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: she could potentially kill Thor.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like conceptually, it's one of the things that Zack
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Snyder has come out with that is more interesting to me.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: It'll be too long. The trailer was already too slow,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: and the jokes that were in the trailer didn't quite
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: hit right. But the art style is really pretty and
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I'm totally like, I'm torn. I would
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: love to Cause play the main character because she's just
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: got like a sowirly around herye, And I could just
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: do that, but then everybody would think I was a
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Zack Snyder fan.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Although I think he's just the producer on this. I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: don't think he I don't think he directed it, but
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: it definitely has elements of it that make you think, oh,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: this is very similar to other Zack Snyder projects.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: And again not to diss him, I think he does
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: some very beautiful work. I just think he needs to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: be edited down a lot.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Like Peter Jackson.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, more more than you know, And I didn't you know,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch some of his more recent stuff, but like, yeah,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: and I like three hundred Fine, it was a very
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: pretty movie.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a little curious about this, but I think
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: this is one where I'm going to wait to read
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: some reviews before i invest time into it. But yeah,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: I am intrigued, but not like the Zack Snyder thing
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: gives me pause as well. Lastly, we have a trailer
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: for a sci fi kind of heist maybe some horror
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: elements in it movie called Things Will Be.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Different, Yes, where a brother and sister get into some
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: trouble and he, the brother, gets them out of that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: trouble by winding a clock in a house and going
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: through it all lying the witch in the wardrobe, and
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: they end up in the house or a different house
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: in a different time to wait out the trouble that
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: they've gotten in until it passes. But then there are
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: antagonistic figures that are threatening to be a harm to
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: the brea in sister's life while they stay in that house.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it kind of feels like he somehow found
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: out about this mysterious and mystical house where you can
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: manipulate time, so they it looks like they pull a robbery,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: is what I got from the trailer and they use
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: this to try and avoid the authorities, but then it
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: turns out messing with the timeline has consequences. This isn't
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: making me think of anything else like Loki in the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Time Variance Authority. I'm not thinking about anything like that
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: or like the other myriad of time manipulation films that
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: we got recently.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Honestly, it didn't make me think about LOOKI despite the
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: fact that you're right the story is very similar, but
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: it did. I think that's because the slight offness of
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: being in a different time and to make them feel
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: like they really shouldn't be there. Give me more of
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: like a lime Limetown vibe or or like a Rabbits,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: which are both podcasts that just deal with funkiness happening
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: to the timeline and augmented realities.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I said, there is more of a
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: horror edge to this, right, So it's not like it's
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: a bureaucratic organization that sweeps in to clear up the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: mess of a messed up timeline. It feels more like, oh,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: you have messed with the natural order of things and
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: now it's going to push back. So in a way,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: it's actually kind of it's not nearly as horrific, but
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: it is kind of giving me like final destination vibes, right,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: the idea that, oh, you escaped death, but you were
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: meant to die, so it's still coming for you. You
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: can't escape it.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this movie could be horror or it could
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: be suspenseful. I'm interested, but if it's more on the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: horror side, I don't think I'll be able to watch it.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: It'll creep me out a little too much. But it
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: looks good. Yep, And that is it. Sorry, we had
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: to rush a little bit through the last few stories.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I am on a bit more of a time crunch
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: than normal, but lots of you know what I'll say
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: this year, there are a lot more movies coming out
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: this fall around spoopy season that I am excited about
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: than I have been in the past.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course we'll probably get more before we
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: even get through the rest of September. So although we
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: may not be recording.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Next week, correct, we probably will not be recording next week,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: but we you know, we will get more things probably
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: through September. I don't know how much, because of course,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: everything is a little thrown off from all of the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: strikes this past year. You know, we're gonna have some
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: weird dips and rises and media, especially as since we're
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: in between that and the holiday season. But that at
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: least I don't know. I'm not speaking on authority. I'm
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: speaking from an educated guess.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, same, I have nothing to add to that.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, it's okay, sad, No, not at all. You
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: did not make me sad.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: You're making a face and I can't read it, Jonavan.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: It's just it's because I was looking something up, and well,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with what you were saying.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I was looking something up, okay, because.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: You have a question to ask me, and I needed
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: to have reference.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Oh what is my question? I wanted to ask?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: What do you ask at the end of every episode?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Oh? Shoot, you're right. Oh sorry, I'm sleepy, Jonathan.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ariel, do you have a question for me?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: I do? How do people reach us?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: So what you're going to have to do is you're
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: going to have to plan a game night with a
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: bunch of friends, and then you're going to realize, oh crap,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I actually don't all of my board games like they're
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: missing pieces and stuff. I don't have a complete board game.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: I need to go out and get something. So you
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: rush out and you go down to like a secondhand
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: store because you're like, I just need a game. Maybe
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: even I'll just get some copies of games that I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: already have, and perhaps I'll be able to get a
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: full set out of this stuff. It'll be cheap. I'll
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: do it that way. And you find that when you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: get back, you've got this, you know, hall of games,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: and for some reason, one of the games you grabbed
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: you don't even remember that this was one of them,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: but it's an old game of candy Land, and you're like,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: what the heck am I doing? But weirdly enough, your
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: friends come over and everybody gets, you know, a little
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say in debriated. They celebrate, and
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: in the celebration they just decide, for funzies, let's play
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: a game of candy Land. Yeah, we're all adults. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to play a game of candy Land anyway. So
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna start playing. And the weird thing is you're
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  Speaker 2: all going to get sucked into the game. You are
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  Speaker 2: in candy Land, and you're going to make your way
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  Speaker 2: around Candyland, trying to avoid all the dangerous environments that
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  Speaker 2: are throughout the realm, and eventually you're going to come
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  Speaker 2: upon Lord Licorice, and this is going to be a
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  Speaker 2: big deal. The way you present yourself to Lord Licorice
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  Speaker 2: is you have to bow with deference and beg for
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  Speaker 2: his mercy, and then upon closer inspection you will see
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  Speaker 2: that Lord Licorice is, in fact me, I've been there
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  Speaker 2: the whole time, and that's when you can ask your question.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome, And if you're not a Liquorice fan or you're
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  Speaker 1: more of like a og mouse trap kind of a kid,
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  Speaker 1: then you can reach out to us on social media
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook and threads and Instagram. We are a large
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  Speaker 1: nurdrunk collider on discord we are large nur drunk Collider.
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  Speaker 1: You can find that invite on our website www dot
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  Speaker 1: largenurdrun collider dot com. We're also on Twitter slash ex
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  Speaker 1: for LLNC Underscore podcast and if you get something long
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  Speaker 1: for him that you want to send us, you can
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  Speaker 1: do it in an email. Our email is large nerdron
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  Speaker 1: Pod at gmail dot com. That's a lot. My brain
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  Speaker 1: is now completely fried because I am so tired. So
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  Speaker 1: until next time, I'm going to be I until next time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be Ariel. I can finish a sentence
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  Speaker 1: cast in and.
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  Speaker 2: I will be Jonathan MacArthur. Park is a terrible song.
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  Speaker 2: It's not as good as Harry Belafonte. How dare you?
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  Speaker 2: Tim Burton Strickland.
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  Speaker 1: True Facts.
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  Speaker 2: The Large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
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  Speaker 2: published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
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