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10-9 H3: The Ocho & Hugh Millen Joins · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's time for the Ocho.
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  Speaker 2: The best 12 minutes of 8 minutes of radio. Brought
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  Speaker 3: Letter Buck. Please drink responsibly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, great morning to you all. Happy Football Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Football Fridays here on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Always
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  Speaker 2: brought to you by Washington's Beef Farmers and Ranchers Beef.
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  Speaker 1: It's what's for dinner. I had some beef last night.
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  Speaker 3: Had a nice.
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  Speaker 1: Burger here at The Draft. By the way, there is
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  Speaker 1: a draft.
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  Speaker 2: There is a sports bar here at the Tulalip Resort
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  Speaker 2: Casino where Anders and I are broadcasting today. And we're
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  Speaker 2: hosting our event last night with Hugh Millen, who will
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  Speaker 2: be joining us today at 830. And I knew of
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  Speaker 2: many of the restaurants here. I've eaten at many of
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  Speaker 2: the restaurants. I had never eaten at their sports bar.
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  Speaker 2: It's called The Draft. How are we not having drafts
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  Speaker 2: at the draft?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness. Like this.
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  Speaker 4: Missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I've already talked to our sales guy,
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  Speaker 1: Rich Strauss.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, we need to host some sort of draft
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  Speaker 2: at the draft.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: During the draft.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And you could do multiple different drafts at the draft.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: With a draft of beer.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's what it means is a draft
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  Speaker 2: of beer. But it is the draft. That's the name
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  Speaker 2: of the sports bar here.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how are we not sponsored?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we are.
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  Speaker 2: The person in America, in the world, in the galaxy
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  Speaker 2: who loves drafts more than anybody else. And I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know that the sports bar here at Tulalip is called
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  Speaker 2: The Draft.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to do something about it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I can promise you that.
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  Speaker 4: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: We've got the Ocho, your eight top stories of the
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  Speaker 2: day here on a Friday. It is game day right
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  Speaker 2: here on Sports Radio 93.3.
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  Speaker 3: KJR FM as the Huskies.
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  Speaker 2: We are the flagship station for Washington Huskies athletics. They
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  Speaker 2: are hosting under the lights on Montlake, the greatest setting
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  Speaker 2: in college football, Friday night football against the Iowa Hawkeyes.
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  Speaker 1: And we have breaking news on this front.
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  Speaker 2: Broken in the last hour, the Iowa Hawkeyes starting quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: Hank Brown, is not going to play in this game.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't big, shocking news. He was a question mark
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  Speaker 2: throughout the course of the week. But it was confirmed
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  Speaker 2: earlier this morning that 5'11, 200-pound Jeremy Heklinski, their backup quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: will be starting in this game for the Hawkeyes and
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  Speaker 2: not 6'4, Hank Brown. The truth of the matter is,
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  Speaker 2: as we discussed a half hour ago, this is not
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  Speaker 2: much of a drop-off, at least according to the articles
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  Speaker 2: that I've read. Heklinski very nearly beat out Brown for
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  Speaker 2: the starting quarterback job, and apparently the entire Hawkeye fan
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  Speaker 2: base has been wanting, clamoring for Heklinski this entire season.
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  Speaker 2: You know, must be some sort of Manziel type, because
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  Speaker 2: he's not really a runner.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I can't imagine he can see much over the
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  Speaker 2: line at 5'11, 200 pounds. Doesn't even look like an athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But he apparently is somebody that the Iowa Hawkeyes like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not going to act like I know much about
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  Speaker 8: Hicklinski himself, but if it was that close of a
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  Speaker 8: competition in Iowa, you could take it two different ways.
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  Speaker 8: You could think, number one, hey, they have two decent quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 8: The drop-off won't be that big, or you don't really
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  Speaker 8: have a quarterback, which could be also the case as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Brown has looked better than past Iowa Hawkeyes quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. I mean, they do have a
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  Speaker 2: 4-1 record on the season, so... Apparently, this is not
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  Speaker 2: much of an alteration to the Hawkeyes' chances tonight against
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  Speaker 2: the Huskies, where the Huskies are favored to win this game.
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  Speaker 2: Last I checked, by two and a half points, maybe
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  Speaker 2: that has changed since the Heklinski news. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to change Cam Cleland's analysis of the matchup.
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  Speaker 2: He was with us on Wednesday. former tight end of
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  Speaker 2: the huskies and voice of the dogs uh told us
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  Speaker 2: what he thinks will decide this game.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah they're not going to make a lot of mistakes
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  Speaker 9: you're going to have to beat them they don't give
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  Speaker 9: up a lot of sacks they don't turn the ball
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  Speaker 9: over they're going to run the ball so getting off
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  Speaker 9: the field is premium for us to be successful we
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  Speaker 9: have to be at least 50 on third down going
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  Speaker 9: into friday night i'll be honest i don't have a
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  Speaker 9: lot of confidence right now that we're going to be
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  Speaker 9: a 200 yard rushing team but can we get to
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  Speaker 9: 100 can we simplify it a little bit sure but
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  Speaker 9: you're going to have to beat them, and you have
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  Speaker 9: to beat them with precision. That means mistake-free football. Don't
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  Speaker 9: turn the ball over. Don't have penalties on third downs
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  Speaker 9: that are procedure penalties. A couple big plays, and that
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  Speaker 9: should be good enough, and let's get a couple turnovers
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  Speaker 9: on defense.
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  Speaker 2: Cam, Elise, and Softie on the call starting at 6 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: That's your kickoff from the greatest setting for this Friday
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  Speaker 2: night matchup. Honks will start at 2 o'clock. That's led
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  Speaker 2: by Softie. Softie will lead the postgame show. Softie will
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  Speaker 2: drive the bus. He'll drive the players to the game.
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  Speaker 2: Softie will be making popcorn during the game and burgers.
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  Speaker 4: And he'll have Gatorades when they come off the field.
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  Speaker 1: Softie will also.
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  Speaker 2: meet with Coach Fish at halftime to discuss the game plan. So, yes,
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  Speaker 2: Softee's hands are all over this one, but we're used
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  Speaker 2: to that. Is it a must-win? F, yeah, it's a must-win.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they all are from this point forward. If
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  Speaker 2: the 3-2 Huskies still are holding on to their preseason goals,
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  Speaker 2: they can't afford to lose another game this entire year.
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  Speaker 2: So it has to get on a heater, and it
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  Speaker 2: has to happen tonight against the Iowa Hawkeyes, whose only
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  Speaker 2: loss this year was to powerhouse Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: And yet, the Dawgs enter this game as a favorite.
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  Speaker 4: At home.
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  Speaker 1: College football week.
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  Speaker 2: Number six, a terrific schedule, but there is a clear-cut
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  Speaker 2: game of the week. Rick Neuheisel was on with us Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: and he has a clear lean for Georgia versus Alabama.
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  Speaker 7: I like Kalen DeBoer against.
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  Speaker 1: Georgia.
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  Speaker 7: Kalen is, I think, 2-1 against Kirby. For whatever reason,
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  Speaker 7: Kirby struggles against the tide. I think he's 2-7 overall.
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  Speaker 7: One of them was the national championship game, and last
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  Speaker 7: year was the conference championship game. So it's not as
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  Speaker 7: though he doesn't know how to win. For whatever reason,
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  Speaker 7: it's been a bad matchup for them. I just love
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  Speaker 7: how Kalen Russell is playing. But don't count out Gunnar Stockton.
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  Speaker 7: He's a poor man's quarterback, but he's playing like a
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  Speaker 7: rich man. He is really, really hot right now. I
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  Speaker 7: think it's going to be a hell of a game,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm going to take the roll tighter.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia's number two in the country. Alabama's number six in
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  Speaker 2: the country. Both teams are undefeated heading into this game.
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  Speaker 2: Neither team has even had a close game, not even
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  Speaker 2: had a scare. A 14-point win for Alabama over Florida
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  Speaker 2: State is the closest game either team has played this season.
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  Speaker 2: Then again, Georgia has played no one to this point
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  Speaker 2: in the year unless you count Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 1: Kickoff is at 4.30.
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  Speaker 2: Alabama enters as a one and a half point favorite
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  Speaker 2: at home in this game. One other note we should
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  Speaker 2: point out, Hurricane Isaiah's good impact. Actually, it is going
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  Speaker 2: to impact this game. I mean, it may not cancel it.
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  Speaker 2: It may not postpone it. Hopefully the storm diminishes because
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  Speaker 2: there's obviously a lot more at stake than playing a
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  Speaker 2: football game this Saturday when we're talking about natural disasters.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully it diminishes and doesn't affect anything. even anyone's backyard,
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  Speaker 2: much less this football game on Saturday. But it certainly, Anders,
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  Speaker 2: is going to affect the game in some way. There's
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  Speaker 2: at least going to be rain and wind. There's no
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  Speaker 2: question about it for the biggest.
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  Speaker 3: Game of the week.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it sounds like it's somewhat improving from the reports
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  Speaker 8: that have come out this morning. But, I mean, at
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  Speaker 8: the very least, it's going to be a weather-impacted game,
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  Speaker 8: as you just said. But I think this is Alabama's
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  Speaker 8: best chance, best team possibly, that Kalen DeBoer has had.
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  Speaker 8: They need to prove it if they're going to be
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  Speaker 8: kind of that championship caliber team that they think they
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  Speaker 8: are against Georgia tomorrow afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Someone will have to make this weather decision for them.
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  Speaker 2: They're not responsible enough to make it. Those crazy rednecks
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  Speaker 2: will play inside an erupting volcano before they cancel a
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  Speaker 2: big ball game.
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  Speaker 1: This is true.
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  Speaker 2: So somebody's going to have to be the smart person,
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  Speaker 2: going to have to be the adult in the room
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  Speaker 2: because there aren't any in Alabama.
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  Speaker 4: There's really not.
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  Speaker 2: Kickoff is at 4.30. There's another monster game, top 25,
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  Speaker 2: within the Big Ten. The Oregon Ducks hosting... Undefeated UCLA
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  Speaker 2: at 12.30 on CBS on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the National Football League.
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  Speaker 2: Item number three on your road show, Seahawks hosting the
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco 49ers. Biggest game of the year for either team. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I include that Australia team. matchup for the 49ers in
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  Speaker 2: week number one I mean this is it 49ers have
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  Speaker 2: a lot to prove against the Seahawks this specific matchup
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  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks have a lot to prove on Sunday
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  Speaker 2: because they haven't played a game of four good quarters
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  Speaker 2: this entire year maybe it's coming just in time against
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  Speaker 2: the division rival Greg Bell was with us a little
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  Speaker 2: bit earlier this hour uh excuse me this show I
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  Speaker 2: should say and he's been with us throughout the week
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  Speaker 2: talking about Nick Emanwuri being the key versus the 49ers
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  Speaker 2: array of versatile weapons.
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  Speaker 5: Again, that's the one thing that these 49ers usually have
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  Speaker 5: an advantage over all other teams. See, we heard on
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  Speaker 5: our show the other day that Matt Barrow, 49ers beat
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  Speaker 5: writer for the Athletics, said that he was measured, Kittle was,
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  Speaker 5: at running 20 miles an hour last week. And that's
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  Speaker 5: coming off of a huge injury. That, on top of McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 5: McCaffrey has become what he is in a zillion-dollar running
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  Speaker 5: back because of catching in the flat and turning upfield
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  Speaker 5: and beating defenders to the edge and He did not
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  Speaker 5: do that against Nicky Maury last year. He caught the
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  Speaker 5: ball and he went down. And there are singular players
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL who can do that, and he did
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  Speaker 5: it in two consecutive games against them.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell, if you want to hear the entire conversation
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  Speaker 2: from this morning, you can check out our podcast at 933kjar.
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  Speaker 5: Com.
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  Speaker 2: Some other things that we covered in that conversation. Leonard
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  Speaker 2: Williams sat out practice with that ankle injury. We just
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  Speaker 2: saw a video of him running out onto the field
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesday, and he did not look hindered whatsoever. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to look at this, Anders, as, hey, he
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  Speaker 2: looks great. Why even risk him? re-aggravating an injury on Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: give him his rest. And I suspect that we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get Leonard Williams on the football.
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  Speaker 1: Field, and we really need Leonard Williams on the football field.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you could make a case for a
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  Speaker 8: lot of different players, but I think he might be
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  Speaker 8: the best defensive player on this team, just about how
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  Speaker 8: much he impacts the game.
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  Speaker 4: And I agree with you.
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  Speaker 8: I think we'll see, of course, with the injury designation
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  Speaker 8: later today, but I think they would be a little
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  Speaker 8: bit more on the cautious side of things, trying to
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  Speaker 8: keep him ready for this game.
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  Speaker 2: Ty Okada is expected to play his first game of
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  Speaker 2: the year on Sunday. And as for the running back room,
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  Speaker 2: no Jadarian Price. Zach Charbonnet is not ready. And Joe
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  Speaker 2: Mixon came and went. So Emmanuel Wilson will start. George
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  Speaker 2: Helani will back up. Oh, Hugh can't wait. And newcomer
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  Speaker 2: Robert Henry is expected to not only play in this game,
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  Speaker 2: but get some carries in this game as well. As
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  Speaker 2: for San Francisco, fullback Kyle Juszczyk is out. Nick Bosa
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  Speaker 2: is doubtful, which usually means out. And Mike Evans is questionable,
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  Speaker 2: which usually means in. Kickoff is at 125 on Sunday
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  Speaker 2: afternoon as, yes, the Seahawks are hosting the San Francisco 49ers.
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night football kicked off week number five of the season.
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  Speaker 2: The Cowboys were expected to blow out the winless Tampa
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  Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers, starting their backup undrafted rookie quarterback Jalen Daniels,
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  Speaker 2: and instead the Cowboys got embarrassed.
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  Speaker 4: Gainwell comes in as the running back now.
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  Speaker 1: On the end around, inside the 10, all the way
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  Speaker 1: to the.
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  Speaker 2: Prime Video, Al Michaels there on the call, and they
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  Speaker 2: won the game. Bucky Irving rushed for over 160 yards.
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  Speaker 2: Poor tackling. No ability to stop the run. No ability
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  Speaker 2: to run the ball themselves. But let's face it, the
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys lost last night because Chris Kidd picked them.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's pretty clear-cut, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's the conclusion that I come.
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  Speaker 1: To, yes. 24-16, the final score.
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  Speaker 2: Think about if you're Jerry Jones, architect of your football team...
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  Speaker 2: And how many significant moves they have made to make
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  Speaker 2: sure they can stop the run.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody has spent.
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  Speaker 2: More resources on bringing in run-stuffing defensive tackles.
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  Speaker 1: They got Kenny Clark on the Micah Parsons trade.
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  Speaker 2: They got Quentin Williams last year from the New York
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  Speaker 2: Jets in a trade.
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  Speaker 1: And nobody spent more on.
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  Speaker 2: Making sure we have the pieces to at least stop
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  Speaker 2: the run. And what does Tampa Bay, without a passing
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  Speaker 2: game threat due to them, ran at will against the
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  Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, this is kind of an embarrassing loss
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  Speaker 2: for them.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it seems like the one thing that Jerry Jones
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  Speaker 8: hasn't done is call into Sports Radio KJR and make
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  Speaker 8: sure that Christopher Kidd does not pick them in Fact
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  Speaker 8: or Fiction.
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  Speaker 4: If he does that, maybe he might have a better
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  Speaker 4: chance next time.
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  Speaker 3: Poor kid. Poor kid.
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  Speaker 1: How bad is the NFC East right now? Well, let's
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  Speaker 1: put it this way.
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  Speaker 2: Dallas looks bad, and yet they're not anywhere close to
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  Speaker 2: being out of it. I mean, the New York Giants
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  Speaker 2: are 3-1, but they're not any good. Not without Jackson
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  Speaker 2: Dart at quarterback, and then You've got the Philadelphia Eagles,
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  Speaker 2: who right now seem to be scrambling for an identity.
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  Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Eagles will be in London taking on Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 2: That'll be the first game, 6-30. That's one worth getting
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  Speaker 2: up for, by the way, though, Eagles versus Jaguars. And
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  Speaker 2: then the best early game, I'm going to go with
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  Speaker 2: Raiders at New England. The best afternoon game that's not
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco at Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: Denver at Los Angeles is pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: And then the Sunday night game now is looking like
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  Speaker 2: a great game, especially if Lamar can play. Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 2: and the Baltimore Ravens in Atlanta to take on the Falcons.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people as they were exiting
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  Speaker 2: were telling me we got to do this again. So
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  Speaker 2: that's only because of you. So nice work.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, well.
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  Speaker 6: Appreciate everybody that was involved. I'm not going to list
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  Speaker 6: the names. They know who they are. You know who
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  Speaker 6: you are. So thank you.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 3: How about the dogs tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk. It's game day.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk some Huskies a little bit. And, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: obviously it's must win tonight if they're going to try
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  Speaker 2: to achieve all their goals. Every game the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the year is a must win. So they better start playing.
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  Speaker 2: Last start tonight. They better start playing better immediately. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean a lot better. Where is it falling short
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  Speaker 2: for you? Coaching, quarterbacking.
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  Speaker 6: Where's it falling short for you right now with this
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  Speaker 6: football team? Well, coaching, quarterbacking. If you want to start there,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's interesting, just some thoughts that I have.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going to try and convince. It's just an
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  Speaker 6: opinion I've kind of landed on. I think that college football,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm not trying to exclude basketball. I'm sure that applies,
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  Speaker 6: but college football, no more. It feels like there's a
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  Speaker 6: component of that. Obviously, with your alma mater, the the
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  Speaker 6: provinciality of it, a lot of times you're selling hope.
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  Speaker 6: Hope is really important to a college football fan because
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  Speaker 6: you can be okay with my team is not where
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  Speaker 6: I want them to be today, but the idea that
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  Speaker 6: they're going to be where I want them to be
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  Speaker 6: tomorrow is a real– I don't mean literally tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right.
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  Speaker 6: That's an important facet, and I feel like with Demond–
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  Speaker 6: You know, everything... Originally, it was... Well, it's all the
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  Speaker 6: people around DeMond's fault. And then all of a sudden, bam,
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  Speaker 6: now it's... In some people's eyes, now it's all DeMond's fault.
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  Speaker 6: And then you say... And the calculus may be... This
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  Speaker 6: is a theory. Oh, well, he's going to be gone
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: in six games. We can take his $ 4 million next year,
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: and next year will be better. If there's a problem
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: with the coach... The path to success gets a little
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: murkier because you've got things like buyout. If you have
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: to realize that the coach is part of the problem,
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: then that's a little messier. We're talking a lot about
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: one conversion and third down. Just a real quick review
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: of the tape of the third downs against USC. And
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: the precision's in the details. If you see really good
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: offenses at the professional and college level, the details matter.
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: And so the first third down, you're running a shallow
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: cross and man coverage. The running back, he's going to
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: chip and help. Now, instead of running a swing route
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  Speaker 6: to open up the man with the shallow cross coming,
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: he runs what Bill Walsh used to call an M route,
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: which is it's a confined– a little route right off
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: the tackle, and he runs the defender right into the
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: shallow cross that would have been open. Coach Fish talked
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: in his coaching show on Monday night. He said, Desmond Robeck,
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: you know, all week long he breaks on the inside,
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: and then here against the Trojans he breaks the outside.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: Jed Fish is absolutely right on that play. Desmond Robeck
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: on the choice route should have ran inside. But the
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: receiver that's clearing out the next window, you want to
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: scream right at that defender. Don't slow down. Come right
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: at him and cross his face and go to make
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: the window wider. Don't go up and juke and slow
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: down because that narrows the window that Roebuck and the
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: quarterback have to see. That's a detail that matters. Now,
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: there's a short comeback that DeMond just flat out missed.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: It's a lay-in. So that's on DeMond. Come back on
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: another one.
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: We watched on our tape last night, how many times
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: did we see JSN and Cooper Cup dying to get
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: outside releases against press man-to-man?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Every time on a corner route. Every time they had
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: a corner, they're dying.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And my guess is they do things right a lot.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I think that they do it right.
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  Speaker 6: And as a quarterback, if you see press coverage on
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: a corner route, you say, hey, look and see, does
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: he get his outside release? And because if he takes
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: an inside release, the percentages are so low that it's dead.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: And so, you know, we got a third down and
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Roebuck takes an inside release on the corner. And oh,
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: by the way, on the fumble six, he took an
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: inside release on the corner. That's a detail that matters.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: And on that play, you had again. a shallow cross
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: with the running back instead of running a swing to
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: open up the vision, the running back runs right into
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: the area with the shallow cross. The shallow cross is
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: running wide open. Why is the running back going to
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: the spot and taking the defender that's covering the running
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: back into that area? It's like a box of code
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: for the quarterback. You either coach that or you allow that.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: Third and 10 from the 25-yard line, Demond is looking
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: out at the comeback. It gets to the 45-yard line.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: I can't make this up. This is not an opinion.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: The line of scrimmage is at the 25. That is
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: a fact, not in dispute. The receiver went to the 45.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: That is a fact, not in dispute. That is a
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: 20-yard comeback. And Demond is getting pressure. How the hell
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: do you hang in for a 20-yard comeback? Nobody does it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: And the in-breaking route was also at 20 yards. This
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: is not an opinion.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: This is a fact.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: So the interpretation of this do you think that we
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: have time to wait for 20-yard breaking routes?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Slow developing.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: You can't find that in the NFL.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Just a couple more.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: On the fumble six, as I said, the inside release
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: on the corner, the tight ends running at a basic in-route.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: He.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: His is too shallow because it runs into the robber defender,
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: and he's losing ground. He's got to come down. There
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: was a whip route. There was a lay-in throw. That
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: was a great call. Great call by Jet Fish. Got
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: the protection, got the route. DeMond misses the whip route,
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: misses the lay-in.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: And then....
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Had a beautiful third down 11 on an out route
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: to the Husky sideline and then the sack on the
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: proceed to the last play.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: Where there's six guys coming five and you've got to
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: either change the play protection, bring the tight end to block,
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: or you've got to sprint away from it. But if
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: you're going to snap the ball, you have to throw hot.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: And you've got your most experienced receiver who's got to
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: get to the flat now.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: But he's up.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Jimmy and shocking you know giving the shucking and jiving
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: like it's zone to get open and there's no sense
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: of awareness of what's happening so there's all kind that
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: you know that's just in the third down so i'm
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: yeah i'm not going to burn another segment on first
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: and second now but guys just understand so so what
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: what happens is you get a comprehensive list where you
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: say if you're trying to be better than one for
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: ten you gotta you gotta shore up these details and
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: damon williams isn't going to be the one that shores
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: up these details Now, I could do another segment on DeMond.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: DeMond's got a lot of issues with his play. But
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: I think that right now, Jed Fish is getting a pass.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: And his role, he said he's going to be the
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: offensive coordinator. Then the tape is his resume. The tape is,
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: and you either coached it or allowed it. And these details.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's the most important thing that you said.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Because you don't get off the hook.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: If they're not executing, that's your fault. If you designed it,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that's your fault.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: He doesn't get off the hook either way. But we're
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: not in week one.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: We're in the conference play, and so if I see
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: a running back who, after chipping to help the freshman tackle,
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: which is a good idea.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with chipping because that freshman tackle needed help.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: Now the question is, what do you do on the
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: running back route tree?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: You got more. Well, more than a couple of options.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: You don't have an infinite number, but there's things you
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: can do.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: One thing I know, if you've got a shallow cross
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: coming from the other side, you better get that dude
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: the hell out of there.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: Because otherwise, the dudes that's covering the running back is
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: going to be right in the throwing lane.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Which is what we watched. We watched it twice. I
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: just showed you the tape in the commercial break. Anders.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Anders, make this three for three. Verify for the people.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I concur.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be one to argue with you.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: But you saw how it's a murky picture unnecessarily. So
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: then we say, all right, well, this is DeMond's fault.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: And now some people have stayed on the DeMond thing.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: It's the offensive line trouble, right? Yeah. But the people
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: who are saying, well, it's all DeMond's fault. There's a
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: lot of it that's DeMond's fault. But the scheme, as
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: I've just described, in my opinion, is problematic too often.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: There's good stuff. That third and ten, that deep out route,
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: that was gorgeous football. And Jed, you know, he called
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: the right play. But the last two plays of the game,
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: which were totally disparate, you had a cover zero. The
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: Huskies had the wrong plan. The offensive play caller for Washington,
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: whomever that is, took the L. The defensive coordinator for
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: the Trojans took the W.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: He happens to be Gary Patterson. And then on the
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: fourth down, it was a zone, and the defense set
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: the nickel defender over the slot, and he buzzed him
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: right to the primary receiver, and DeMond had nothing. He
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: would have had to break the pocket, distort the defense
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: to try and make a play. There was nobody open
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: based on what was covered. And again, that was the
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: play that....
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: That solved the game. It was fourth down to win
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen is with us.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: We've got some more time with Hugh Millen here on
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: a football Friday. We're going to do X's and O's
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: at 9 o'clock, talk Seahawks 49ers. We always do our
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: little Big Ten preview in this next segment, which is
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: coming up. So I'll run through the schedule, but we'll
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: have more on the Hawkeyes and Huskies coming up with
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Hugh on Sports.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: All right, Chuck, in the morning, Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Great to have you with us here this morning on
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: a football Friday. And, of course, thanks to Tulalip Resort
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Casino for hosting us here for the last 24 hours.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: We've got extended Hugh Millen here this morning. He hosted
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Chalk Talk last night here at Tulalip Resort Casino in
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a special event. that we had for some listeners who
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: were kind enough to come out and be a part
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: of it. I know they had a good time because
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: they all told me they had a good time. And
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: then we're going to have an extended X's and O's
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: coming up with you as we talk about the Seahawks 49ers.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: But we do always provide this service on a Friday,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten schedule for you.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Let me rip through it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Indiana at Nebraska, 9 a.m.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Kickoff.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: That's big noon on Fox. I think Indiana is just
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: going to steamroll them. Northwestern, which looks like a playoff
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: team the way they've played so far this year. They're
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: hosting Ball State at 9.30. At 12.30 is the game
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: of the week in the Big Ten. UCLA at Oregon,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: number 21 versus number 13 there. Illinois is at Michigan State,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: also at 12.30. Fifth-ranked Ohio State probably can just call
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: how many catches and yards and touchdowns Jeremiah Smith wants
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to score. They can probably just make that happen at will.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: They'll be hosting Maryland, who's terrible, 115 kickoff there. Penn
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: State's got to get their act together. They gave up
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: over 400 yards rushing last week against Northwestern, for goodness sake.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: They will be hosting USC at 430. It's a whiteout
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: for Penn State. And then Minnesota, who's feeling kind of
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: froggy these days after huge back-to-back wins against Washington and Michigan.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: will be at Purdue and that kickoff is at five
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: o'clock but of course the Big Ten schedule gets started
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: tonight with Iowa at Wisconsin at Washington I don't even
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: know why I said Wisconsin 6 p.m kickoff under the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: lights on Montlake greatest setting in college football as the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: 20th ranked Iowa Hawkeyes roll into town and here we
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: don't have a lot of time to talk about this
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: but Man, that Iowa brand, they are consistent, isn't it not?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're just going to know exactly what you're
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: going to get out of Iowa tonight.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: They're just going to be tough, hard-nosed guys that play
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: really sound defense. They're not going to beat themselves on defense.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: What they may lack in athleticism, they make up in
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: physicality and toughness and playing together. And if you get
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: to 20 points on it, you know, bake a cake
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: and have a celebration.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Right? Yeah.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: And yet their offense is just going to be, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: stuck in 1976. And so, yeah, I mean, we just
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: kind of know. And if the weather's a factor tonight,
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know, it's supposed to clear. I don't know
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: the latest. That's a good question. I looked that up.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I'm just getting so used to this amazing fall weather,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I just took it for granted.
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Uh, all right.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: But, uh.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: No, it looks like we're good. We're good.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: But everything plays to Washington's advantage. Yeah. It is emotionally draining.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: You know, don't those psychiatrists say the most emotionally toiling.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Things in your life are a death in the family
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: and a marriage.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. To despair, right?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: You know, now they are entirely different emotions.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Yes. Right.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: Presumably, if everybody's happy with.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: The wedding proceeds.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: A somber and a happy occasion.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Joyous, right?
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: But in terms of the drain on your body, the
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: emotional drain, they're supposedly equal or thereabouts.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Let the experts weigh in on this. But we've all
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: heard that theory, right?
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Well, Iowa just played Ohio State. That's a big damn
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: game for them. So they had an emotional game. They
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: had a wedding or a funeral, whatever. More of a
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: funeral because they got smoked, right?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It was kind of like the scene from Monty Python's
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Holy Grail.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: It was kind of both. Let's not bicker and argue
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: over who killed who. This is a happy occasion.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Well, so can we agree their tank was a little
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: bit empty?
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: And then now they fly across the country playing on
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: a short week, playing on a Friday.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: So that and... playing with a backup quarterback. All three of.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Those things in combination doesn't guarantee Washington wins, but it's
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: a good place to start. You're in a better position.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: As you said, Washington... you know, playoffs start tonight. Is
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: that a fair– if– now. If they're going to achieve
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: their goals. I think a lot of people rolling their eyes,
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Are you talking the Huskies and playoffs? That sounds absurd.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: But– Just saying that those were the goals before the season.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: In their building.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: They're either thinking or talking about it or both in
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: some form or fashion.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, they're aware, like, hey, we got to get
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: on a heater.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: You got to get hot.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Now. Tonight.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Starting tonight.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Really hot.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Seahawks 49ers are going to be playing Sunday X's and
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: O's with you is something we do every Friday at
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: 9 o'clock. But obviously we've got a little more time
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: with them here today at the Tulalip Resort Casino.
• 30:27
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