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Cubs lose 10th straight, Thunder roll, Hawkeye talk with Eliot Clough & Milan's Decision · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon.
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On our Wednesday, we welcome you to the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. We're talking sports with you
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over the next couple of hours. Whether you're joining us on Des
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Moines sports station One O 6.3, KXNO, the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network, all are fine affiliates throughout the state or anywhere
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in the I heart. I'm glad you are with us for the
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next couple of hours. Here's what's coming up on our
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program. Elliot Clough is going to join
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us. hawkeyeinsider.com going to go over all of the kick off
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times that were released. Whoops 2:00 Unbelievable.
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I thought we had them this morning.
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I thought so. I really did.
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Year after year after year. It's in morning, it's in
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morning. Yep. 2:00 So the boys in the
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afternoon catch another another break programming wise.
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So we will speculate. Yes, this.
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Is what we're going to hear coming up at 2:00.
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But I guess for everybody, all the first three weeks of college
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football, those games will be released and then we go to that
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week by week and some days the six day hold and you know all of
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the parameters when it comes to college football and scheduling.
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But Elliot Cleff is going to join us at 12:30.
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Cappy's going to be here. This should be fun.
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The Cubs are in the midst of a 10 game skid.
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We'll pick Cappy's brain on how he thinks, if he thinks that
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this team can find a way out of it or what needs to change in
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order for them to do so. The Pirates absolutely
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embarrassed them last night, but Craig Council got tossed when it
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was 12 to one in the ninth inning.
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I'm not sure what message that sends or not, but Council, I
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think it's part of the problem. Anyways, Cappy coming up at 1:00
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and then we're going to talk. I thought that the Fever played
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the Valkyries tonight. It's tomorrow, but doesn't
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matter. We're still going to preview the
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game and do a little Fever conversation, WNBA conversation
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with our friend Scott Agnes who covers the league and covers the
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Fever. We'll do that at 1:30.
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Tip off time tomorrow night for that game is 9:00.
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It is on prime. And no hockey tomorrow night as
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there's just going to be one NBA game.
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There's no NBA tonight. There's one hockey game.
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We're coming to the end of this TC.
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The winter sports are getting closer to crowning their
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champions. Well, it is almost summers.
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Well, it is, yeah. It would be nice for them, yeah,
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to get things wrapped up. But yeah, spread out that
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calendar as much as possible. We'll definitely take that and
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looking forward to seeing Game 4 coming up this evening with the
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Hurricanes in Montreal and just that scene.
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You've talked about it a ton. It's special, it's different,
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and if you're casual or maybe you're just not a big hockey
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person, take a gander tonight. Dip your toe in this one.
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Yeah, I think it'd be a great game.
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The last two have gone to overtime.
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They're evenly matched and and Montreal just elevates it.
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It truly does. Just the experience alone.
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I'm glad I've been out there a couple of times.
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I think 3 times have been able to get there and that was a no
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no as a kid. Yeah, Oh yeah, it.
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Was that was not a big fan of the French.
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Ah yes, and it was a very divisive.
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Well, it wasn't we we saw it his way, right?
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But and for whatever, we never thought about vacation in
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Montreal or not that we were vacation family by any means.
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We had a cabin, so that's where we would go and get on the rope
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swing. And my childhood was a Mountain
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Dew commercial for crying out. It was it was a blast, but I saw
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Montreal for the first time as blown away.
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Anyways, he came around later in life, but fun experience
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tonight. So that's our program.
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Ted Trent will make some plays of the day.
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How did yesterday go for you? 4:00 and 2:00.
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Another good day. We'll take it.
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Did your props hit? For the most part.
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What did we hit yesterday? Let's see, you had two.
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Strikeout props I. Remember, we actually went, we
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had three, OK. Or two, yes.
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And we hit Schlitter. He went over 5 1/2.
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Harrison only had two, though, did he?
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Yeah. Which was weird because he'd
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been striking out like 8-9 guys in a game.
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We hit Jordan Alvarez over needed over 1 1/2 bases.
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He had eight. Really.
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That helps. We hit the Nationals on the
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money line plus 1/22 and the Thunder last night, so four and
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two will keep stacking them up. When you watch the game last
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night, the NBA game and I, I thought I was going to watch
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more. It was such a boring game.
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Well, it was boring because one team was just dominating, with
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the exception of the first quarter.
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The first quarter was good. I mean, I thought the Spurs
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couldn't miss early and it was going to be a A game and it
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turned out not to be. And by the end of the first 12
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minutes, OKC had taken the lead and they were on their way.
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But it was got. I mean, Chad Holmgren got got
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him credit because he's been one of the poster child for
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underachieving players and, and, and Jared McCain stepping up
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and, and, and doing what he did last night.
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By God, he was good. 20 points for him.
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But maybe Chet Holmgren was as big of a story last night as
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anything. I think so his emergency,
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because if you look forward and even if the Thunder advances,
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they're now prohibited favorites to do against the Knicks.
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It can't just be SGA. They're not beating the way this
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Knicks team is playing. They're not beating the Knicks
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with one guy. Totally agree with you.
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And even the way that they play and the style and all that, they
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need Chet Holgren to be the guy that we saw last night.
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And that certainly was not the case in the first four games of
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the series. But I thought there were a
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couple of things early. Spurs jump out to lead.
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All right, that's nice. Champenny was nuts.
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I mean just hitting three pointers all over the place.
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After another, yeah. But it was right after the
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Thunder, all right? Kind of got their legs
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underneath them a little bit, got it back to basically even.
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And there are a couple of plays in the second quarter.
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Remember Vassal just missing a wide open layup?
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It was, yeah, I do. I do.
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How does that happen to the NBA? Right.
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This isn't Jack right at a breakaway.
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It's still maybe a 5050 proposition.
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This is an NBA player with nobody around it.
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I I one of the most baffling things.
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But as soon as you see. That a lot, though, and guys are
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usually get not a lot, but not with this he this case, he was
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why all by himself. But you see guys that have an an
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open lane to the basket that miss and you get that clean up.
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You know, then that one of his teammates coming and saw that a
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couple of times last night. But I don't know.
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I I hope it's not over, but man, it sure seems like it's over.
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I love the Spurs in Game 6. I hope.
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Maybe it's just hopeful. I hope you're right.
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Not a Thunder fan BI enjoy the Spurs team.
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I do too. Most importantly, I want to see
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a Game 7. I do too.
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Saturday night. Yep, bring it on.
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That would be excellent to be able to get that two young
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teams, two teams that are going to be part of our lives for a
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long time, I think going forward, and to get that
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opportunity to get that in a playoff.
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Overall, the NBA has been OK. Not yeah, I mean, it's not the
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NHL. No, the NHL is far surpassed it.
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And again, I'm biased, but I think I could put that aside
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because, you know, if you watch the games, I think you see the
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same thing I'm seeing it's and look, if they're still, they're
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still obviously a championship series.
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And I can't. I look, I think the Knicks are
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going to give whoever it is a series.
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Right there with. You, I really do.
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And I'm, you know what? I think I'd find myself pulling
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for the Knicks just because I think these two teams from the
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West, whoever it is, they're not going to where, as you said,
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you're right, they're going to be back.
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I, I don't know if that's the same for the Knicks.
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It's just New York, right? It's been since the 70s, for
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crying out loud, 73 or 7474. I think since they won a
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championship, that building would be packed.
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It is a special place. Madison Square Garden is I, I
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loved it. I'm so glad that I, I checked
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that box in my life. It's a really cool venue and
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it's New York. And it's special and you hear
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New Yorkers talk about it and when the Knicks are good in the
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springtime and the seasons changing and everything and, and
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just how different the city it's, it's a buzz.
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Let's see, let's see a couple of outsiders.
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How do you? How do you?
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Think New York sports fans, and I know this is every there's
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going to be a lot of different ways we could go what's the most
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popular team in New York is it the Yankees then the Knicks I.
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That's difficult because without knowing really what the city is
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like, because you do have the Mets there.
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You do, right? And that is a portion.
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And even if it's 2/3 versus 1/3 or whatever it is.
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There's more Giants fans than Jets fans, right?
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But there are there is that you know allotment percentage of
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Jets fan. The Rangers are popular.
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But you also have the Islanders. Because you have the Islanders.
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I I would love to know what, what new, how New York fans kind
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of rank their fandom, if you will, in the city.
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I think I think it'd be. Closer than you think.
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I think the Yankees, because of the national perception, maybe
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change. And the championships.
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Yes, the way that we look at them because of where we are
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compared to maybe how New Yorkers overall, and I don't
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know, it's a really good question.
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I think probably the next number #1 though I wonder there's no
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Nets fans. No, no.
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Not very many, no. At minimum, right.
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It's, I think, different than the fracture that you have in
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the other sports for New York, in comparison, the Knicks are
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just different. Yeah.
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And 1973 by the way. Is it 73?
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Yeah. Is it?
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But it do. Do we have the right the first
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2? Is it Yankees?
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Knicks. I think so.
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Too. I think so too, but it's so
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hard. Hey, we're sitting in Des
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Moines. We're crying out loud and I'm
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like, I've been there a bunch of times, but I don't know how the
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fans feel about how they rank their teams.
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And then, you know, what would what would be a method that we
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would go about it? We could remove the biases.
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I don't think you possibly can. Well, we're headed in that
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direction seemingly. OK, see right now in the
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driver's seat and they will get the Knicks who will wait.
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And I'm sure if you're a Knicks fan or your Knicks player, they
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were. You're hoping this thing does go
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seven games. Let's get Thunder Joe in here.
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You had to like last night. Joe, how are you?
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I, you know, OK, good afternoon, Ken.
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I did like last night and I'm not a big fan of the theatrics.
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I just I can't it's I love the NBA.
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It's tough. I don't know if they need to
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hire some guy to watch every game at the end of each game and
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start handing out and start handing out like every every 20
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you get a quarter suspension, 42 quarters, you know, and so on.
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He's here. I'm going with that.
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Two things here real quick. I think Alex Caricio is the
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Western Conference MVP and I don't know if they win, they win
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the series. I think it's a travesty if he
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does not get it. I wonder what he was prior to
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the series to be the Western Conference MVP.
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Do you have any idea what he was?
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Bree before the playoffs started.
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No, but I wish I could have that back in the future Almanacs and
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I think I think the Knicks are the most popular team in New
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York and I've got a theory. OK.
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Yankees and Mets fans hate each other.
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Jets and Giants fans hate each other.
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Nobody cares about the Nets. Islanders and Rangers fans hate
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each other. But they all love them.
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But they all love the Knicks. Yeah, I think you're probably
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right, Joe. I think you're probably right.
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Who do you want? Do you think it's going to be a
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series? If it if we do get OKC in the
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Knicks, we're trying to make it a series.
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I think it's going to be. Do you think it will be?
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Well, I'll give my unbiased opinion and it's going to sound
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biased. It's going to come down to
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depth. We've known this for two years.
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We talked about it last year. I think.
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I don't know if the layoffs going to hurt the Knicks come
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game one like it did the Panther, Carolina, Panthers,
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like it did the Thunder. I mean, you sit, but it's going
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to come down to depth. And when a team like Oklahoma
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City can hit you wave after wave.
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Hell, Jared McCain would have won Rookie of the year last year
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had he not got hurt and they fleeced and they fleeced the
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Sixers. He's coming off the bench,
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although he although he didn't start last night.
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He last started last night. Yeah, Yeah.
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But. He was great come down to yeah.
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Yep. Thanks, Joe.
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I appreciate the call. And I and I think you're right.
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And I, I think that's good reasoning behind it.
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Just the hatred that the fan bases have for the team that
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they share the city with, you know, McCain was unbelievable.
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So I started messing around just trying to, you know, because I I
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thought I'd like the Knicks, Knicks, Knights, and then found
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I think the Yankees are going to prevail.
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OK. And I think the Brewers are a
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free square and they're not that much overwhelming favorite.
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The Brewers are a free square. I Who's going to beat them?
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Cups. No, no, I'm not so sure.
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They finished in the top two. Who Trent, they're pitching is
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just, I mean, it's just decimated.
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And what they did last night, I mean, how embarrassing.
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But you have no other options. You trot Wicks out there and
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then he's got to wear it. Gives up five in the 1st and
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sorry, you just got to keep going.
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Back out there. Because we don't want to tax his
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bullpen anymore. You're throwing Palencia because
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you got to get him some work. Tyone's been going to be asked
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today to stop A10 game losing. Streak.
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I don't think there's a free square though.
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I feel really good about it and it's and it's not that over.
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You don't have to lay a ton of money.
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I mean, the Cardinals are a nice story.
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The the Brewers crushed him last night.
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I'm anxious to see this game today because of the history
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onics at the end. Did you see the relief pitcher
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for the Brewers? I did doing the DX suck.
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It What was he thinking? And good for Pat Murphy nipping
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that in the buds. That's not how we do things
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here. And apparently they reached out
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to the Cardinals and apologized to them as well.
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I guess maybe trying to get ahead of what was going to
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happen today. There's going to be some balls
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coming in right high and tight. And I'm still not so sure that
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that's not going to be the case today.
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But I just think the Brewers are just so much better, at least at
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this point. And again, we're 1/3 of the way
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through the regular season, right?
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50 something games into it. So about 1/3 of the way through,
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they've taken the lead. The Cubs have have They can't
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hit. They can't pitch.
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It's not a good combo. It's not a good combo.
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They got gloves. Yeah, most nights.
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Most nights, by the way, I heard.
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I think we shot this PC AAA. Had you heard of that nickname?
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I hadn't heard that till this morning until they said it.
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I peed my pants. That's a pretty good one.
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It is GPC AAA, so they haven't won since.
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Since White Sox Bride and PC AAA got into it.
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I guess the owner of the Billy Goat Tavern died the last day
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the Cubs won a game. Really.
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And they haven't won sense. Another curse.
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Another curse. It lives.
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We'll see, but I but I like the Brewers.
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I think the Brewers are going to prevail.
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Anxious to talk to Kathy about that.
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Coming up at 12:15. All right, since we won't get
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the Television times, you thought yesterday that the
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Seihawk game is going to be a 630 kick.
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Yes. Lucas says you're wrong.
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Well, Lucas is wrong. He says it's 2:30.
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CBS. He's wrong.
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I saw where he saw that. He saw it on Twitter.
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Did he I? Don't know.
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I saw somebody on Twitter that had it.
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No, I've heard both doctor men with us yesterday.
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Yeah, he did say that. He what did he?
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I think he said you're going to have to wait most of the day for
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the game. Yes, something I'm paraphrasing,
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but that was the. Gist of it, Tom Caker from
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Hawkeye Report has speculated the same.
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I believe it's going to be a night game and that's good.
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I agree with you. The most ridiculous tailgate
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environment I've ever seen. It was the 2002 game.
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Oh. My God. 5:00 kick. 5:00 kick.
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It was obviously Iowa State in the midst of the winning streak
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that they built up up to six. It continued there.
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A great game. Great game. 24/7 lead for Iowa
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at the half. Yep, Iowa State comes roaring
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back. Yep, Brad Banks gets his hand
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wrapped too tight and fumbles the ball twice.
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Fall apart. Iowa State comes charging back.
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Seneca was outstanding. He's a Heisman contender.
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It wasn't the time till Oklahoma.
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That was also a game that I dropped my wallet in the student
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section. Oh, good, yes.
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So I get up, I make my way from downtown area to the stadium,
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hoping maybe because I got to the bar that night, no wallet,
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couldn't get back in all right. But he's floating B20 and back
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then that was enough to get through the night and
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everything's locked up not getting there.
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But the walk from downtown to get to the stadium is unlike
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anything I've ever seen. It was just looked like there
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was prayer post post game. This is Sunday morning and it
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looked like Obama got off. It was awful.
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This also led to in the closing of the old field house lot that
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is now. And that was behind it?
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Or was that the last straw? No, but this was, this was bad.
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I mean, there was, there's a parking structure there.
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People are up there like 5 floors up and they got a beer
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bong that's going all the way down.
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I mean, it was an incredible party, a very fun scene, but it
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went to the NTH degree. That's what happens with night
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kick offs now I don't think. We've had somewhat, we've had a
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night kickoff subsequent to that.
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Yeah, we had the rain delay that turned into a night kickoff, or
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I guess it kicked off before that but ended under the lights.
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There's been a few, but take me back because you're in the
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middle of it here. I was in the middle of it as a
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student. That time in 2002.
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Losing streak ends at 15. Iowa State's taking control.
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They're having success. Iowa is building.
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Did the the hate feel bigger at that time?
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You know what it did? I think it's this is how I
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remember for a couple of times, a couple of things.
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A because I would say basketball was good.
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It it to me was the at the time, the high watermark for Cyclone
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athletics. It seemed like they'd finally
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gotten over the hump and beat quote, I'll say it, Big Brother
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and it just felt different. I remember that we put a cyclone
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show on the air. We did because there there was a
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there was a market for it and we're sponsorship behind it.
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It just it, it just felt different that that I was dated
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leveled the playing field after being well, I look, I, I got
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here in 89. It was I, I I I, I was.
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Yes, it was. Yes, Yeah.
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And, and some people, younger people think we're crazy.
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I I told you where I grew up, Iowa State was not a thing
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outside of a couple of farming families.
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That was it. We had this thing in elementary
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school, every side hawk week, Mr. Mayor would put up two big
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pieces of poster board and he'd write your name and the score on
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what side it was. And it would be, I don't know
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how much school probably had, what, 4 grades, probably 400
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kids. And there would be 380 on the
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Iowa side and there'll be about 20 on the Iowa State side.
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And it's not to be flippant. It's not me being Ariel Hawkeye
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fan. It's the reality.
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It was from WHO to the Iowa Television Network and what that
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turned into for back. Yes, those were the things that
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just made it a statewide phenomenon.
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Well, I'll, I'll, I'll throw this in too, because as a, as a
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rank out a total outsider. I was at Prairie Meadows and we,
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we were done racing and you know, a little bonding group.
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We went to Kinnick and we went to Jack Trice that same season.
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Buses, bus loads of us, right, bus loads of Prairie Meadows and
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probably just doing a, a company outing thing.
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I got to Kinnick. There's a holy mackerel.
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Right. It's a stadium.
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It's really cool. What a neat.
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I kind of started to, I was starting to grasp college sports
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because at that time I hadn't college sports rhyme From his
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family and friends and girlfriends, period.
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Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
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And then I got to Jack Trice later on in the year.
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I was like in a pasture. I was literally in a.
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Now, I might have been AI don't know where we were.
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I know we were South of the stadium 'cause I can remember
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the park there was, but we were in like a field and a Kinnock.
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I felt like it was just elevated.
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Yeah. So I had that preconception, I
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guess planted at 89, but it was just Iowa, Iowa, Iowa, Iowa.
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But Fast forward to when McCartney finally, and I'll
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never forget his khaki pants. I mean, he sweated right through
20:14
them, right? That's the thing that sticks
20:16
with me about that streak finally coming to an end.
20:18
And then they kept winning, and then they kept winning.
20:20
And there were seemingly more Iowa State fans.
20:24
I don't know where they were, not that they weren't hiding,
20:26
but they, they weren't necessarily wearing their
20:29
cardinal and gold on their sleeve.
20:31
Like very quickly they, they, they began to do so.
20:34
And then it all changed when Paul had put up the billboards.
20:37
And that was so damn good for business.
20:39
I mean, it was what a what a time to be doing talk radio.
20:43
What a time we had God, it was fun and just the Hawkeye fans in
20:49
disbelief right that some guy was going to do this and do it
20:53
over in Eastern. I will not nerve the gulf and it
20:56
was thank you Jamie Pollard. This thing just took a a toll
20:59
new turn and went to a whole new level.
21:02
The vitriol online is as ugly as it's ever.
21:04
Well, and that that's true. Don't forget that was preceding
21:07
message boards or if message. Boards were a thing.
21:09
They were a. Thing but nowhere near the The
21:13
first message board I remember was I couldn't believe Hawkeye
21:15
fans were so mean to Kyle McCann.
21:19
I mean, good God, that's your quarterback.
21:21
AS 2001 two. 1001 I hope he's not seeing this 'cause I, it's
21:26
not that I was thin skinned, but I'd never seen this part of it.
21:29
I mean, you get toughened in this job, right, Right.
21:32
But yeah, that's just the the whole message boards thing.
21:35
So I can imagine what the vitro and and today it's just.
21:39
But that's also that's different too from message boards to
21:42
social media, because for a lot of them, they're hiding behind a
21:46
screen name. It's not you, no.
21:49
And the interactions. But this also might be just age
21:51
too, where I'm aging and probably don't kind of fly quite
21:55
at the level that I once did. But I don't see that tailgating.
22:00
Yes, go buy an Cy Hawk game and you'll see some people
22:04
bickering, you'll see some hollering.
22:06
There might be a fight or two. Pre or post fight?
22:09
No, I'm talking about now. Right, but pregame or post game
22:12
fight either OK. But it felt more prevalent at
22:17
that time. It was little brother getting
22:20
their wind underneath. They got a little something to
22:23
lungs down and they're going to shout back.
22:25
And after having to take it for the last 15 years.
22:27
Right, we're here. It's built up.
22:29
And it just feels different. And maybe because people also
22:33
have the outlets now, they can do that and he can our message
22:37
do it on. Our message boards as active as
22:40
they would because we have Twitter and we have all those
22:43
other outlets. Are they still as active?
22:45
Probably not. I wouldn't think so, right?
22:48
In the pre Twitter era, right, That was all that there was.
22:51
You go back to the heyday, like of the mid aughts, like old 5 to
22:55
2010. That kind of feels like the
22:56
sweet spot, doesn't it? I think it does when message
22:59
boards were really blown up all across and were huge everywhere
23:02
and it didn't matter where it was.
23:04
And you still see them all over the place, but then still
23:06
frequent some of them from time to time.
23:08
Usually just Halo, but that's enough for me.
23:11
It's it's fun interactions. It's still behind the screen,
23:16
but yeah, Twitter and Facebook and Facebook and Facebook for
23:19
your generation. Yeah.
23:20
I don't go on it. Thank God.
23:22
Yeah, You know what? I it's so bad.
23:25
I think most people have at least sampled Facebook, right?
23:27
Yeah. I'm so glad I haven't.
23:29
Yeah, I it's never. I mean, I don't know.
23:31
I don't know why I didn't, but I didn't.
23:33
And I've no desire to to catch up what I've missed.
23:36
All right, 1225 Elliott Clef is coming up.
23:39
We will, I guess, speculate as to what we think we're going to
23:41
get for kickoff times. We'll get the whole college
23:44
football slate unveiled to us coming up at apparently 2O clock
23:49
is when is now when it is anticipated to drop.
23:52
So if you're sitting on pins and needles as far as kick off time,
23:55
obviously the one we want to find out most of all is Psy
23:58
Hawk. And we'll see if indeed it is
24:00
NBC at 6:30. I hope it is.
24:05
Yes, I hope it is. Do you know what the competition
24:08
is that day as far as big games? I do.
24:10
I had the list up here and we'll bring up the Big 10 football
24:15
schedule for 2026. How about how about the entire
24:19
slate do? You have, well, that doesn't
24:21
really matter because it's going to be a Big 10 broadcast game.
24:23
Right, But what will it go up against?
24:25
What will? OK, I get what you're saying.
24:27
Well, this is what they're working against in the Big 10.
24:29
Let's start there. That's how I can simplify
24:32
things. Here I see.
24:32
OK, Where you going? I see where you going.
24:34
So already announced 11:00 Big Noon kickoff is Oklahoma at
24:38
Michigan. Yeah, yeah.
24:40
Already also announced 630 Texas hosting Ohio State.
24:44
Wow, yeah. And who's got that?
24:46
That is on ABC. Holy mackerel.
24:48
So selfishly, 230 would be better just as a fan.
24:51
Yeah, because you're not beating that.
24:52
Just a college football fan. That that game will will win the
24:56
night. Right.
24:57
Other games, though, that potentially could have something
25:01
to do in those other good windows from the Big 10,
25:05
Mississippi State at Minnesota, SEC versus Big 10 potentially.
25:11
Kind of sounds like a Thursday night game on BT Doesn't
25:14
Minnesota always start the year on on Thursday?
25:16
Night. They do.
25:17
They do. Yeah, because of the state.
25:18
Yeah. For the State Fair.
25:19
No, this is remember, this is week two.
25:20
Yeah, this is week. Right, right, right.
25:22
Yeah. Morgan's at Oklahoma State, but
25:25
that falls under the Big 12 purview, so that'll be that one.
25:29
San Diego State's at UCLAA, decent game.
25:32
Feels like FS1 at 9:00 though, doesn't it?
25:34
Or BTN at 9:00 with that one. Not a whole lot else.
25:38
Bowling Green goes over to Huskerland, Nobody cares.
25:41
Nobody's going to be real fired up that.
25:43
Stat that Doc threw out yesterday about all the Big 10
25:46
teams that would have made the playoff with the exception of
25:49
Rutgers. Marilyn Perdue and Nebraska.
25:55
That floored me. That's the company that they
25:57
keep. That is the company that they
25:58
keep. You love that.
26:00
I do. I was just.
26:02
He's right. Other big games that weekend.
26:05
OK, let's see what else we have. I'm looking at teams that are
26:09
ranked. Tennessee's at Georgia Tech.
26:11
No, Georgia Tech doesn't move the needle.
26:14
Alabama at Kentucky, we do get an SEC game that might be ABC
26:18
2:30 for that one. I could see that.
26:22
Not a whole lot else as I continue to scroll through here.
26:26
Arizona State at A&M. OK, that's decent.
26:29
Yeah, that's not too bad. That's not too bad.
26:32
Texas Tech at Oregon State. Not really, by the way.
26:35
That's about it. Texas Tech's president?
26:37
Did you see him go to bat for Soresby?
26:42
I did not. Oh my God.
26:45
I saw the that the NCAA said no, right?
26:48
As it should be. Now they're appealing,
26:50
obviously. And this Texas Tech quarterback,
26:53
our our, our president rather going to to bat for his
26:56
quarterback. OK.
26:58
I mean, it's it's nice. I want to believe that it's just
27:01
because you feel for the kid. Would you be doing this for the
27:04
long snapper? Nope.
27:07
They don't have a quarterback. They don't have a quarterback.
27:10
Until Hammond's healthy. Until Hammond's healthy and and
27:13
how healthy is going to be, but just that they're going to
27:16
appeal. We're keeping his look, he's
27:18
sick. There's no getting around.
27:20
Sarsby's got a disease. When you're sitting in
27:22
Cincinnati, you're betting pitch after pitch after pitch.
27:25
You're you've got a problem. He's betting a buck.
27:27
But he's still betting. I mean, he's not even looking at
27:30
the you're not even looking at the field.
27:32
You've got a Major League Baseball game in front of you
27:35
and you've got your hand on your phone.
27:36
If you're betting every pitch, that's sick.
27:38
This is where I struggle with this and why I really Maybe I'm
27:44
becoming jaded. As soon as this happened,
27:47
everything went down. He's going to rehab.
27:50
Yep, great, wonderful for him. Yep, absolutely.
27:53
He needs the help. And that's part of the argument
27:55
for the from the Texas Tech president.
27:58
But also it was stated that he had not placed a wager since
28:02
he'd arrived in Lubbock. That was also part of the
28:04
initial story. If you have an addiction, a true
28:08
addiction. You're going to find a way to
28:09
bet. That's where I jump off and
28:16
where I start to think about nefarious things.
28:19
I gotcha. And that's an excellent point.
28:21
And that counters my point. And you're 1000% right.
28:23
If you're sick, if you're an alcoholic and you go to a dry
28:26
state, you're going to bring your you're going to find a way.
28:29
Absolutely. You're an addict, you're going
28:32
to find a way. And yet we're to believe.
28:35
And once he got to Lubbock cold, cold Turkey, but he's addicted.
28:40
That does not jive with the way that I think about things.
28:42
Fair, unfair. That did not pass the smell
28:45
smell test for me. Yeah, I can.
28:48
I can. I can see your point.
28:50
You make it. I can't argue that.
28:51
I can't argue that, but I I just he's just a base himself, the
28:56
Texas Tech president, he really and truly did.
28:58
Again, it's the most important position in all sports.
29:01
Would you be doing this for your long snapper?
29:02
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hawkeyeinsider.com. Elliot, we thought we might have
29:39
some kickoff times. It sounds as though we're going
29:41
to have to wait until 2:00 before we get into football.
29:44
Elliot, I do want to pick your brain, Not pick your brain, but
29:47
just get you to opine on your colleague Sean Bach, who did a a
29:51
piece on Andrew through McKeever.
29:52
I've not read it. I'm excited to see his fit at
29:56
the University of Iowa. I I think he's going to he's got
29:59
a chance, I think to play obviously a major impact in
30:03
what's left of his career. Your thoughts and and what did
30:06
Bach discover when it comes to McKeever and his potential fit?
30:11
Yeah. Well, Ken, I was working this
30:13
morning myself, so I haven't read it either, but it, you
30:17
know, I think it's one of the primary things that is going to
30:22
be different about Iowa this coming season.
30:24
I mean, when you look at him, Manny out, what he did in the
30:27
front court, pretty impressive for his size, but moving to a
30:30
position where he can come off the bench, much more
30:33
advantageous for him and Iowa. When you look at McKeever, I may
30:37
have said it to you guys before, but the thing that sticks out to
30:40
me and that I remember for my first year on the beat was going
30:44
to watch the Hawks play at Purdue when back Eddie was there
30:49
and Peyton Sanford telling me about how much space Edie took
30:53
up. And that's such a positive
30:56
towards the team that has a big guy.
30:58
And now that's Iowa having having McKeever in the middle.
31:01
He's I think he was, I can't remember the exact number, but
31:05
he was one of the top players in the country and rebounding
31:09
percentage, which again, that's huge for this team going into
31:12
next season. Just the guy that takes up a ton
31:14
of space that you can go to in the short pick and roll as a
31:18
passer. Those numbers that that he put
31:21
up as a passer and in a small sample size are really good.
31:25
So just a guy that you know he's going to provide some serious
31:29
size. That's what they needed.
31:30
That's what they wanted on the portal.
31:32
Underrated passer and a guy that can overwhelm overwhelm opposing
31:37
offenses with his ability to take up space in the middle and
31:41
in the paint. So just an ad that I were really
31:45
needed and that they they got and that's a big win out of the
31:49
out of the portal for for Ben McCollum and his and his second
31:53
year leading the program. Speaking of out of the portal,
31:56
Tyree Coleman his fit, another guy.
31:58
You look at some of those numbers from Synergy, they're
32:00
really good in the pick and roll game and something that you
32:02
think he could strive on. Do you see him and Kale Combs
32:05
playing a bunch together next year or maybe a little bit,
32:09
maybe a stretch of 5 to 8 minutes a game?
32:11
Do you think they're going to be the back court together or more
32:14
of a combo, each of them running the point at different times?
32:18
Yeah, that's a good question. I would imagine just because of
32:22
the usage of the those type of guards in McCollum system that
32:28
they'll play quite a bit together.
32:29
It'll probably be interchangeable, right?
32:31
I mean, those two are our combo guards with some positional
32:36
versatility in terms of in terms of their size and and defense
32:42
for that matter. Those that'll be two guys that
32:44
play some really good perimeter defense for Iowa next year,
32:49
whether it's on, you know, a point guard or or a shooting
32:52
guard. I think what you want more from
32:55
Combs is consistency in terms of shooting the three.
32:58
Coleman brought that last year for Illinois State.
33:01
My concern honestly, guys, is, is the immediate expectations
33:05
for Coleman out of the portal because he was good for Illinois
33:09
State last year. I think I think it's best
33:10
basketball is ahead of him, but he's not going to be all Big 10
33:13
first year, right? He averaged 10 points per game
33:16
last year for Illinois State. So I think that's something
33:18
maybe to tamper some expectations from the fan base
33:21
at least. And you know, a lot of that
33:23
expectations and stuff you see from the fan bases on Twitter.
33:26
So maybe I'm overreacting because Twitter is not the real
33:29
world, right? But yeah, but it'll be really
33:35
interesting to see how McCollum balances those guys out.
33:39
How much does Isaiah Howard factor into that rotation in the
33:43
back or going into next year? Because he's one of the better
33:45
defenders on the team and a really solid athlete.
33:48
But he needs to be much more consistent as a shooter to see
33:52
more consistent minutes this coming year.
33:54
But I mean, honestly, your guess is as good as mine.
33:56
I think that's going to be one of the more intriguing pieces
33:59
about this team this coming year.
34:00
And and where does a stage factor as a guy who plays on the
34:04
ball this coming year? Is he going to play on the ball
34:06
more because he is a guard, right, despite his his size and
34:10
kind of fitting into that hybrid size of being a 67 wing, he does
34:18
identify himself as a guard. So will he be on the ball this
34:22
coming year? And how much does that factor
34:24
into how much the ball is in Coleman's hands in Cale Combs
34:27
hands? It's really, really interesting.
34:29
If I had to guess, they probably start together, Coleman and
34:33
Combs. That's that's my guess right
34:34
now, but it'll be really interesting as to how they they
34:39
split those roles. How Colmes grows in this coming
34:43
year with with stirts having moved on and how much on ball
34:46
responsibility each of these guys is going to get because
34:50
that's I mean, that's a factor of McCollum and the way he likes
34:53
to play the ball. Yeah, it's like to have a
34:55
dominant on ball guard and and is Colmes, does he have that
34:58
star power to take over that role and and play at a high
35:01
level or or could Coleman, you know, blow, blow my expectations
35:07
out of the water and and play at a really high level after just
35:10
one year of mid major ball. Do you know the answer to this
35:13
when it comes to see that one of the I guess one of the things I
35:16
want to watch is, is the season ticket renewal and when
35:20
deadlines are because look, we, we know that the women have have
35:24
sold way more tickets over the last few years than the men
35:26
have. I think that gap narrows this
35:29
year, Elliott, obviously based on the, you know, the Elite
35:32
Eight run and, and the, and the feel around the program and
35:35
seemingly men's men's basketball fans who may have, you know,
35:38
checked out during the end of McCaffrey era.
35:40
I, I think if they were on the fence, I think they're totally
35:43
going to be back in. Do you know when there are any
35:45
deadlines as to as far as renewing your season tickets or
35:49
where they're going to be out for men's basketball?
35:53
Unfortunately, I don't off top my head, Ken, I know that some,
35:57
some messaging were was sent out by the athletic department just
36:02
recently, but I, I as far as I know, I think it was just a
36:05
reminder to to sign up for your for your tickets.
36:09
But yeah, I would imagine that that those numbers are going to
36:13
be way up relative to last year, especially with the portal
36:17
edition and that success that they had at the end of the year.
36:21
It'll be intriguing to see how Iowa does in the non con against
36:25
the their high major opponents. And I think that'll really help
36:28
dictate how things go in the Big 10.
36:30
And, you know, at the beginning of Big 10 play, it'll be it'll
36:34
be interesting to follow. I imagine, you know, well, there
36:37
will be more sell out this year than there was last year.
36:40
And I will will have an opportunity to right the wrong
36:44
of what happened against Purdue at home during that one sell out
36:47
this last year. That was a brutal one.
36:50
But I, I think, I think they'll be much more prepared for that
36:54
and, and be ready to go and, and big games like that at home.
36:58
Was announced yesterday that season ticket holders.
37:01
The renewal deadline is July 30, 1st for that.
37:04
So there you go. People can renew and then we'll
37:06
get the new ones that'll go in there.
37:07
And yes, it's going to be a good environment in Carver.
37:10
You know, one guy Elliott I don't think we've talked much
37:12
about is Cooper Koch and the essential we saw for him golf.
37:16
With Jess Settles and just pops yesterday.
37:17
That's not too bad, right? That's a good day out on the
37:19
golf course playing with Jess and and with Jr.
37:21
So we saw the shooting finally start to improve in the back
37:25
third of the season. Kept him in a couple of games,
37:28
really shot the ball well. Is there more to him skill set
37:31
wise offensively, is he a guy not consistently, but a little
37:35
bit more that can put it on the deck when people are closing out
37:38
hard that can finish at the rim a little bit better.
37:40
Offensively we saw the emergence on the defensive end.
37:43
What more can he do on the offensive end to become maybe a
37:46
more complete pair player this season?
37:49
I think one thing that went super underrated about Cooper
37:52
coming out of high school was his ability to score at all
37:54
three levels. That hasn't necessarily
37:57
translated so much at this point anyway.
38:01
Would not surprise me if McCollum and staff, one of their
38:04
big focuses is getting him in a position to handle the ball a
38:08
little bit more, granted that hybrid position.
38:11
I mean, like, like we started off this conversation talking
38:13
about Combs and Coleman in terms of how how heavily on ball they
38:18
are in this system. If you can get your hybrid to be
38:22
a little bit more consistent on ball in terms of attacking the
38:24
rim and such, that'll be really interesting.
38:26
It'll be interesting, too, to see how how McCollum combines
38:34
these lineups and how often, like how how he uses the hybrid
38:38
in relation to McKeever in that you don't want to clog the lane,
38:42
right? You don't want to cause
38:44
turnovers by getting too bunched up inside.
38:47
So with with Makeba as a Screener, how often are you
38:50
going to use your hybrids in a thick and roll?
38:53
Or is that going to be primarily your your your guard?
38:57
So, yeah, I think if the next step, if there is a next step in
39:01
Cooper's game, it is putting the ball on the deck, maybe doing a
39:05
little bit of creation rather than just a catch and shoot guy,
39:08
which he was really, really good at towards the end of the
39:12
season. And it was just a matter of time
39:14
before that started the, you know, the his shot started to
39:17
fall. And luckily it happened towards
39:19
the end of the season for Iowa. But yeah, I think it's putting
39:22
the ball on the deck. I think it's it's scoring at the
39:24
rim specifically. You know, you talk about a three
39:27
level score. McCollum is not one to go for
39:31
mid range jump shots by any means.
39:33
So I think it's putting the ball in the deck, maybe creating a
39:35
little bit off the dribble on the outside and then getting
39:38
downhill and attacking the rim, finishing through contact,
39:41
right, going for those and ones because coops are really good
39:43
free throw shooter too. So what you want to score right?
39:46
You want to score at the rim, you want to score from the free
39:49
throw line and you want to score for three.
39:51
McCollum is all about efficiency.
39:53
Super conscious he can get to the rim, finish with both hands,
39:56
finish through contact. That would be a major step
39:59
forward in the game. What the last thing for me?
40:01
What time do you speculate we're going to see the Iowa State Iowa
40:05
Seihawk football game 63230? Any idea what?
40:09
What's your guess as to when we're going to see Seihawk at
40:12
Kinnick this year? Man, it'd be cool to have a
40:15
night game for for Cyhawk again, wouldn't it?
40:18
Under the lights that Ed Kinnick, it's been a while was
40:21
the last one. The the punt where it was well
40:24
muffed by a teammate tackling is that was the last.
40:28
Name. Yeah.
40:30
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that would be, that
40:33
would be really fun. But I'll be a company man.
40:36
I I'll say it's going to be on CBS at 2:30.
40:40
Good stuff. All right, Elliot, thanks for
40:42
popping on. We appreciate the contribution.
40:44
As always. We'll talk to you in the weeks
40:46
ahead. Thank you, Elliot Clough,
40:47
hawkeyeinsider.com. Thanks pal.
40:50
Yeah. Thanks guys.
40:51
Yeah, good to talk to you. As we speculate on, I would talk
40:54
a little basketball, little football with Elliot Clough.
40:59
Good stuff on it, Elliot. It's going to be fun.
41:00
This McCullum air is off on the right foot to say the very
41:03
least, right? People are in.
41:05
Yeah, I'm anxious to see the numbers.
41:06
Trent does. Does the do the women continue
41:09
their sell out right their stronghold on the attendance or
41:13
does that come at the expense of the men becoming more popular
41:17
again? We're still talking about a
41:19
media market that's not very big, right?
41:21
And there's only so many entertainment dollars.
41:24
Wrestling has their fan base. Yep.
41:26
And they're selling out. Yep.
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Now you have women's basketball now people getting back into the
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men. And I told you that phenomenon
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of women's basketball and how my parents and their friends and
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how it wasn't like it was growing up when I was men's
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basketball was appointment viewing.
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It was women's basketball. Well, now with the success, and
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I started to see it in in March, they're starting to get back
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into it. Oh, yeah, this is fun.
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This, this is enjoyable. There does feel like there is a
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peak for everybody. It's going to be very difficult
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for everybody to be able to sell out everything.
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We'll take our final time out of our number one, David Kaplan off
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to Chicago to kick off the second hour, Miller and Condon
42:06
on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Hi, Miller and Condon, welcome back final couple of minutes,
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First hour of our program. David Kaplan kicks off Hour 2,
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Scott Agnes on the WNBA and the Fever that play the Valks
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tomorrow night in that rematch. Real quick, 11 hours from now,
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where are we? About 11 hours.
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Monchilovich will have told the world what he's going to do.
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It seems like if you wait till this long, you come back to
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school. That's my guess.
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I don't know where he's going. I don't think it's Iowa State.
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I don't think it's Iowa State either.
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I don't think it's Louisville. I don't think it's St.
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John's. You think it's Kentucky?
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I think it's Kentucky. I hope it's not Arizona for Iowa
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State fans. Yeah, when that one came up
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yesterday. When Goodman.
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Yeah, I. And of course, clone fans
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attacked him because he's after clicks.
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That was their push back. Nothing but clicks.
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I he's obviously got look, he's he's as connected as there
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anybody. He's in the sport, yes.
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Fair. Yes, I think, I don't think that
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this, I hope this isn't going to happen.
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He's also a Rankin tour. Yeah, he's not.
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That's true. He's not a strict, Yep news guy
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like Matt Hauerlander. Yep, he likes to prod and poke.
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Yeah, that's true. He does.
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So to be fair, on both sides, he also has more of that element,
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but I think it's Kentucky. I just don't think he pulled it
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out of his. You know what?
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Right. I also know where Jeff Tubman
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went to school, right? No.
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Where did he go? Arizona did he?
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Yes. And yet, Arizona fans hate.
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Him and he lives in Charleston, SC.
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Is that where he is I. Think he does?
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Yeah, I hope it's not Arizona. It's not a it would be if you go
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to another Big 12 school that wouldn't like it.
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It seemed pretty clear that the TJ and Milan had a conversation
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as soon as the year ended and both seem both seemingly were
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good with we came this far. It's time to go different ways.
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I I, I think he's going to Kentucky.
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I don't think he's going to the NBA.
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The St. John's won.
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The money's there. Yeah, get him over the hump.
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Talk about being a legend in in New York, right?
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That'll be pretty good. What?
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Who's going to be better? Who's.
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And you'll have essentially, if by the sounds of things, you'll
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have two years to play. If we get the passage and the
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opportunity for the five for five.
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That's Ted Cruz and some other and and another politician
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putting forward. Yeah, that's from Washington
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state. Yeah.
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Is that got a chance? I mean, there's some things in
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there that I like, Trent. Yes, the Lane Kiffin rule is the
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best one. I love it.
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I love it. If you missed it.
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So this has been being worked on forever.
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They've come together. They still got to get the votes.
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We're a long ways away from that, but they put it at the
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Lane Kiffin rule where you can't leave your program until the
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season is over, right? Perfect.
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Love it, love it. You get 5 years, one transfer.
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If you transfer again, you got to sit out you.
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Got to sit out here like you can, but you we'll see where it
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goes. We're going to go to Chicago and
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we come back. Cappy kicks off our number 2
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Miller and Condon Iowa Sports Radio Network.