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Patriots Unfiltered 8/6: Live Broadcast from Joint Practice with the Commanders · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, a special edition high above the
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  Speaker 2: practice fields here at Gillette Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: This is a special joint broadcast.
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  Speaker 2: And what I mean by that the Washington Commanders are
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  Speaker 2: in town for a joint practice with the New England Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be here for the first four periods to cover
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  Speaker 2: everything that we're allowed to show you, and then after
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  Speaker 2: practice Deuce and Paul will be around to wrap up
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  Speaker 2: everything that they saw today. This is a big day
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  Speaker 2: for you know, both teams, but we only care about
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  Speaker 2: one of them. A good measuring stick for the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: to see where they are against uh, you know, players
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  Speaker 2: that they haven't seen yet.
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  Speaker 3: So guys, what do you what are you looking at?
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  Speaker 4: Pretty much everything?
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  Speaker 5: I totally agree with you about the importance of seeing
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  Speaker 5: what what it looks like against another team. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: another set of personnel, set of schemes, coaching styles and whatnot.
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  Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot to watch. For me.
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  Speaker 4: It starts and ends with Drake May.
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  Speaker 5: As you know, I'm always quarterback centric, but I feel
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  Speaker 5: like the offense has shown some signs of being improved
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  Speaker 5: this year this summer, but we haven't seen it on
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  Speaker 5: a consistent basis. So I do still have a little
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  Speaker 5: PTSD to that joint practice that we had last year
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  Speaker 5: against Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 4: I want to make sure it's a hell of a
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  Speaker 4: lot better than that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've said this before.
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  Speaker 2: I hope somebody put that tape in from Mike for
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  Speaker 2: Abel because obviously he wasn't here last year.
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  Speaker 3: He needs to see that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and somebody, you know, whether it's Robert Craft
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  Speaker 2: or Milton Williams.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Milton Williams.
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  Speaker 2: This can't happen again because you know, sometimes you'll learn
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  Speaker 2: from mistakes, and last year was terrible, so we don't
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  Speaker 2: want to see a repeat of that now.
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  Speaker 6: I just echo what Paul had to say.
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  Speaker 7: I think for me today it's really about Drake May
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  Speaker 7: and the competitive period, probably the very last period they're
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  Speaker 7: going to do today. It's gonna be Red Zone Live
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  Speaker 7: eleven on eleven. Those are the periods over the last
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  Speaker 7: couple of practices that you know, we've seen the offense
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  Speaker 7: sputter a little bit. They look good early on seven
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  Speaker 7: on seven when they're putting stuff in when it's not
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  Speaker 7: quite so competitive, But the more competitive it's got, the
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  Speaker 7: more the defense has dominated these practices at the end.
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  Speaker 7: So to me, today it's all going to be a
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  Speaker 7: build up to that final drill to see if Drake
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  Speaker 7: can maybe deliver and help that offense get in the
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  Speaker 7: end zone and start inspiring some confidence in his teammates
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  Speaker 7: that he's going to be the kind of guy when
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  Speaker 7: the game's on the line that he can lead the
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  Speaker 7: team down the field and get critical points.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, I go offensive line.
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  Speaker 8: I think that's the biggest thing right now if with
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  Speaker 8: this team, Paul, you brought up last year's joined practice
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  Speaker 8: with the Eagles, and that was the most glaring issue
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  Speaker 8: out of that was just how overmatched the Patriots offensive
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  Speaker 8: line was against that Philly front. You know, this Washington
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  Speaker 8: defense doesn't quite have the horses. There's no Jalen Carter
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  Speaker 8: and you know Nolan Smith and those guys in Philly
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  Speaker 8: that not quite at that level. But still you got
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  Speaker 8: those two rookies on the line that you're expecting to
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  Speaker 8: see a lot of today, Will Campbell and Jared Wilson,
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  Speaker 8: And how do those guys look?
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  Speaker 4: How do they hold up to get to deuce?
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  Speaker 8: As part of Drake being able to succeed in those
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  Speaker 8: big moments, he's got to be protected. They got to
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  Speaker 8: keep the quarterback up right, and then I think he's
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  Speaker 8: gonna be able to do his thing. But until they
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  Speaker 8: can protect for him consistently, they're gonna have issues offensively.
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  Speaker 2: So that's where I'm looking. Do we have a participation
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  Speaker 2: report from the commanders? Who's in, who's out? Jayden Daniels
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  Speaker 2: is playing, he'll be out there today. Terry McLaurin, What's
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  Speaker 2: what's the deal with him?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 6: It sounds like Terry mclaurin's in a hold ink.
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  Speaker 7: You'll see him unless the person the rams was Terry McLaurin.
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  Speaker 7: I did see a jersey, but I don't think that
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  Speaker 7: was him. Unfortunate though, I mean when we first saw
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  Speaker 7: these practices come in, I thought to myself, Wow, Terry
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  Speaker 7: McLaurin versus Christian Gonzales. Maybe no such luck today, but
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  Speaker 7: still plenty to look at in those one on one periods.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't seen anything, Fred, I haven't you know,
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  Speaker 5: spent much time doing the Washington prep work. Just for me,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's more about what the Patriots are doing. And
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, Evan focusing on the offensive line.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really care who's who's rushing the pass or
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  Speaker 5: I want to make sure that they're, you know, at
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  Speaker 5: least doing a better job of protecting Drake May than
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  Speaker 5: they did last year. And it should be it should
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  Speaker 5: be better because Evan's right, they don't have a Jailing
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  Speaker 5: Carter or Jordan Davis and and you know all of those,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Josh Wetz and the guy in Milton Williams
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  Speaker 5: even you know, we talked to him in the offseason.
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  Speaker 5: He brought back, brought up those those joint that joint
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  Speaker 5: practice and all those past rush problems that the Patriots had.
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  Speaker 4: So it should be better.
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  Speaker 5: I like the idea of the two rookies for the
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  Speaker 5: reason that you talked about on Patriots Unfiltered yesterday. You know,
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  Speaker 5: get those two rookies out there, let them start, and
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  Speaker 5: let them learn through their mistakes and go through the
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  Speaker 5: peaks and valleys and you should be better off in
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  Speaker 5: the long.
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  Speaker 2: Run, right, Throw them into the fire, see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same attitude I had last year with Drake May.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, let him make mistakes, let him know what
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  Speaker 2: he's good at, let him know what he's going to
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  Speaker 2: have to work on. And the only way you can
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  Speaker 2: do that is to just, you know, take the shackles
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  Speaker 2: off and let.
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  Speaker 7: Them taking the shackles off. And I want to see
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  Speaker 7: Jade Daniels today. I mean, what an outstanding rookie year
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  Speaker 7: from him? Is he ready to take that second year leap?
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  Speaker 7: Not as easy without Terry mclaorner around here, but you know,
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  Speaker 7: such an outstanding season from him last year. A lot
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  Speaker 7: of this stuff we're talking about with Drake is you
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  Speaker 7: know what Jayden Daniels did as a rookie. Look at
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  Speaker 7: that playoff run that he had, delivering in the clutch,
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  Speaker 7: getting them in position to it to win big games.
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  Speaker 6: So you know, curious what he looks like in year two.
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  Speaker 6: Is he maybe added a little weight?
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  Speaker 7: Is he still you know how much are they still
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  Speaker 7: trying to run him at least in this camp? Is
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  Speaker 7: that going to be part of what their their plan is?
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  Speaker 7: I remember Paul a couple of years ago, we saw
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  Speaker 7: the Giants come here and it felt like the only
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  Speaker 7: thing the Giants could do was Daniel Jones. That was
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  Speaker 7: their one play that looked pretty good. Otherwise it was
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  Speaker 7: a struggle. But I'm sure to look different from the
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  Speaker 7: Commanders today and just exciting young player that's certainly on
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  Speaker 7: the rise for the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so around ten o'clock, Mike Vrabel will have
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  Speaker 2: his press conference before practice, and I'm wondering if any
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  Speaker 2: of the scribes will ask him if he's talked to
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  Speaker 2: Dan Quinn and sort of choreographed maybe some of these
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  Speaker 2: sessions too, so they can get certain looks that they.
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  Speaker 3: Want to see.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, looking at the schedule, it seems pretty straightforward
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  Speaker 7: of you know what you want to accomplish in terms
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  Speaker 7: of seven on seven. You want to do some middle
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  Speaker 7: of the field stuff, early down work. You want to
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  Speaker 7: get a bunch of situations on third down which you
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  Speaker 7: can't control in the preseason game. You don't know what
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  Speaker 7: opportunities are going to rise when a game's unfolding organically.
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  Speaker 7: This gives you an opportunity to say, hey, we want
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  Speaker 7: to get a bunch of reps that this specific situation
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  Speaker 7: that maybe hasn't looked that good or you know, really
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  Speaker 7: that you want to drill down on. So I'm sure
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  Speaker 7: they'll walk through all those different things, but I would expect,
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  Speaker 7: you know, middle of the field, some early down work
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  Speaker 7: you're going to get in the red zone a little bit,
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  Speaker 7: and then that final competitive pierod and not just like uh,
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  Speaker 7: you know, reps of scenarios in situations, but also individuals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, can you send so and so up against
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  Speaker 2: Will Campbell? No, I'm serious, why not? Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: insigner info. We want to test these guys on things.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how close close Brabel and Quinn are.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know next week you have Kevin O'Connell's.
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  Speaker 2: You have a little bit overlap there with with those
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff. So yeah, we'll see, we'll see what they
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  Speaker 2: put together. But I think generally all these that I've
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  Speaker 2: seen are generally the same. You want to get competitive periods,
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  Speaker 2: you want to get team periods, a little seven on
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  Speaker 2: seven in the red zone, but otherwise have you ever
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  Speaker 2: met Dan Quinn to let him know I'm the guy
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  Speaker 2: with the twenty eight, Well, we saw him in the
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  Speaker 2: airport last year.
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  Speaker 6: We saw him in the airport.
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  Speaker 8: Met dan Quinn in the airport in Indianapolis one year
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  Speaker 8: and we're sitting there eating lunch and we saw a
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  Speaker 8: guy walking with the backwards hat on and I was
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  Speaker 8: we were both like and sure enough it was dan Quinn.
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  Speaker 8: But between dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury, I would assume
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  Speaker 8: that they that Mike Rabel has some connections with the
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  Speaker 8: coaching staff here in Washington, and I would think that
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  Speaker 8: he overlapped with Kingsbury for you know, a short period
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  Speaker 8: of time at least when Kingsbury was a player here
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  Speaker 8: as well, so you know, you have you have a
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  Speaker 8: connection there too, So I'm sure these staffs know each
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  Speaker 8: other pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you can see players arriving, I can't. Can we
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  Speaker 2: turn this monitor on? Traveon Henderson is on the screen.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's a chance that he could be a
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  Speaker 5: much bigger part of the offense in terms of a
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  Speaker 5: big play threat than maybe some people realize. I still
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  Speaker 5: think he's more of a pass catcher, but I just
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  Speaker 5: watching some of the things that Josh mcdineals has had
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  Speaker 5: him do. I think he maybe once or twice every
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  Speaker 5: practice he's he tries to get him downfield on some
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  Speaker 5: kind of a wheel route or you know, something of
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  Speaker 5: that nature. And I think he's going to be a
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  Speaker 5: big matchup problem for you know, virtually any any linebacker
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  Speaker 5: that that's going to try to run with him. I
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  Speaker 5: just don't think you're going to be able to do it.
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  Speaker 5: And I think they're gonna take some shots with him.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know where else you get the big plays
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  Speaker 5: out of this offense. I don't think they have a
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  Speaker 5: traditional downfield guy, so sometimes you have to be a
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  Speaker 5: little creative.
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  Speaker 4: But I think Henderson could be a way that McDaniels
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  Speaker 4: can be creative.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we talked about that yesterday and Paul, you
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  Speaker 2: even agreed that this year, compared to last year, Drake
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  Speaker 2: may should have more weapons. Yeah yeah, on paper, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: on paper, there is at at least a players.
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  Speaker 5: Too, talented guys that weren't here last year and Henderson
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  Speaker 5: and Diggs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Henderson is their most explosive weapon that we've seen
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  Speaker 4: so far.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, we've got Mike Rabel coming up to the podium,
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  Speaker 2: so uh, let's go to him.
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  Speaker 3: I see him glad handing. It's gonna he's gonna take
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  Speaker 3: a few minutes.
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  Speaker 2: He's talking to somebody right now, So let's let's hold off.
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  Speaker 8: It's dan Quinn is at the is there right now
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  Speaker 8: talking to who's he talking to? Dan quinn is talking
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  Speaker 8: to the media.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Oh yeah, sometime.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so the staggering that he was going first, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: all right, so backwards.
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  Speaker 1: Them.
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  Speaker 5: Well he's got dann Quinn, He's got the hat backwards.
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  Speaker 5: You like that, right? Alex actually likes it, right, Alex
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  Speaker 5: likes the hat backwards.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh, I don't to be the ruling on that
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  Speaker 7: with the fitted hat backwards though, I don't know if that.
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  Speaker 4: Might fitted hat backwards?
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  Speaker 6: Is that is that makes you might like?
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  Speaker 1: This?
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  Speaker 4: Is that different? The snap back the snap back?
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  Speaker 6: It's the difference.
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  Speaker 4: No one likes the snap back.
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  Speaker 8: The flappert snapback is what's in right now, Paul, that's
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  Speaker 8: that's what all the kids are wearing these days.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Not a big fan, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So as we wait for Vrabel, like I said, it'll
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  Speaker 2: be interesting to see if if our uh peers down
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  Speaker 2: in the media, you know, ask him about the details
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  Speaker 2: of the practice, and then how open he'll be about it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's the thing I noticed about Rabel is
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  Speaker 7: he kind of wants to just get it out there
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  Speaker 7: instead of making you waste time trying to figure out
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  Speaker 7: what's going on with that. The other night he laid
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  Speaker 7: it all out. Uh, so maybe we'll get more of
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  Speaker 7: that today. I found when you know those things, it's
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  Speaker 7: a lot nicer. You're not spending so much time deciphering
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  Speaker 7: what's coming up next. You kind of know, and you
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  Speaker 7: can just focus on the competitive period. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: think it's going to be a good day for both teams.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, see a lot of a lot of young, exciting.
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  Speaker 6: Players out here.
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  Speaker 3: Ye see what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: Look like you seem like you were a little surprised.
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  Speaker 5: For it that I you know, I felt like they
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  Speaker 5: had a couple more weapons.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, you're you're very particular about your definition
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  Speaker 2: of what a weapon is. It seems to me like
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  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase isn't a weapon. Jam Chase is not a
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  Speaker 2: web I said, anything lower than Jamar Chase in your eyes,
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  Speaker 2: is it really a weapon?
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  Speaker 5: No, I would say there's a difference between just having
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  Speaker 5: a bunch of guys and having Stefan Dix.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm a little crazy like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's why and that's why I go to the talent right. No,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why I wanted to, you know, talk to
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  Speaker 2: you about that, because you can also use weapon in
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  Speaker 2: a way like, Okay, who are my weapons on this team? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's this is Well, they're not very good, you know,
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  Speaker 2: their weapons, but they're not very good like so.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what I'm saying by he's not a weapon, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you have guys that are wide receivers, but the difference
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  Speaker 5: between just having a wide receiver and having Jamar Chase
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  Speaker 5: right or Justin Jeffers.
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  Speaker 3: He's a favorite guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so the guy you developed in we're covered.
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  Speaker 4: We're not quite on that level yet.
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  Speaker 8: But I am interested with Travon Henderson because, like, statistically,
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  Speaker 8: running backs, their targets usually go for less yards because
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  Speaker 8: they're targeted closer to the line of scrimmage, Like their
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  Speaker 8: average depth of target is not as high as like
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  Speaker 8: a wide receiver would be down the field. So, if
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  Speaker 8: you're running back is your most explosive player on your offense,
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  Speaker 8: how do you then manufacture big plays down the field
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  Speaker 8: coming out of the backfield wheel routes seams. You're getting
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  Speaker 8: him into the seams, flexing him out wide. There's a
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  Speaker 8: million ways to do it, I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so we've got you can see dan Quinn
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  Speaker 2: and Mike Rabel right now, uh talking about what would
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  Speaker 2: seem like here's what's gonna happen in practice. Vrabel has
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  Speaker 2: a sheet that he's pointing to and going over with
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  Speaker 2: with dan Quinn.
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  Speaker 3: So they're doing exactly what we just talked about.
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  Speaker 1: Yuh.
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  Speaker 7: I was reminiscing with Paul because of course, you know,
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  Speaker 7: Jonathan Jones and Tutrick Wise are now on the Commanders, So, uh,
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  Speaker 7: Dietrick Wise among the memorable performances and a couple of
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  Speaker 7: joint practices.
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  Speaker 6: And go in the middle of a couple of scrumbs.
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  Speaker 6: But love those guys.
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  Speaker 7: They were you know, you're heard yesterday some of the
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  Speaker 7: defensive players talking about what those guys meant to them
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  Speaker 7: as as leaders around here.
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  Speaker 6: So they've moved on.
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  Speaker 7: They're trying to help a team like the Commanders get
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  Speaker 7: over the hump. But good to see a couple of
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  Speaker 7: old old Patriots who you know, contributed to a couple
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  Speaker 7: couple of championships.
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  Speaker 2: Both those guys, all right, yeah, so this this is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're talking at length about, uh what would seem like,
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  Speaker 2: here's what I want to do.
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  Speaker 3: What do you want to do? So good stuff? It's
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we've ever.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So here comes uh, here comes Mike to
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  Speaker 2: the podium right now my practice.
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  Speaker 9: Is there anything you're looking for outside of what you
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  Speaker 9: typically look for in a regular practice or what's what's
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  Speaker 9: the game?
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  Speaker 1: What's the goal for you? Well, the goal is just
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  Speaker 1: to be able to.
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  Speaker 10: Put put the the identity out on the field against
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  Speaker 10: another team, to put the fundamentals that we've put out
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  Speaker 10: there the installation, to be able to do it against
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  Speaker 10: another defense. To be able to adjust to different play
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  Speaker 10: styles of players, players that maybe are you know have
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  Speaker 10: maybe are longer or quicker or you know, stronger, Just
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  Speaker 10: at different play styles of each player throughout this league.
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  Speaker 10: Work with a team that we have a lot of
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  Speaker 10: respect for, a team that was very good and played
• 14:51
  Speaker 10: their best football late in the season, which is why
• 14:54
  Speaker 10: they were had an opportunity.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Late in the season in the in the tournament.
• 14:58
  Speaker 10: A lot of respect for for DQ and his coaching staff.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: So just as a good fit like today and Friday
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: to get what you want to see, How do I
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: use what I'm sorry in.
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: Friday, the game and joint practice.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the game is an extension of practice.
• 15:15
  Speaker 10: The first preseason game is you know, we're gonna we're
• 15:18
  Speaker 10: gonna play, We're practice today, We've got some situations and
• 15:21
  Speaker 10: then you know tomorrow we'll you know, be the day before.
• 15:25
  Speaker 10: But but Friday will be an extension.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Of of a work.
• 15:28
  Speaker 10: It'll be a game and it'll give us an opportunity
• 15:31
  Speaker 10: to go out there. But still just looking at it
• 15:33
  Speaker 10: as a as a practice opportunity to to continue to
• 15:36
  Speaker 10: work and get guys the reps that we think that
• 15:38
  Speaker 10: they're gonna need for the season.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Like when the game plan for the starters specifically great
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: on Friday.
• 15:43
  Speaker 10: Nay, again, focused on today and they'll get a lot
• 15:46
  Speaker 10: of rep so today, different situations and again, uh, I
• 15:52
  Speaker 10: would say most everybody that's that's healthy, UH should expect
• 15:55
  Speaker 10: to play in the game.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: How long they'll play, I don't know.
• 15:57
  Speaker 10: But we have to prepare to play in football games
• 15:59
  Speaker 10: and you know, prepare to win football game.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: So that's the mentality that that we're going to take.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: Mike learn the paratum on so far dozens are so
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: price prices.
• 16:11
  Speaker 10: I mean, he's seems to be a quick learner. And
• 16:13
  Speaker 10: if there's a you know, something that happens in production.
• 16:15
  Speaker 10: He rarely makes the same mistake twice. This great teammate,
• 16:21
  Speaker 10: you know, I mean you see him playing with effort
• 16:23
  Speaker 10: when he doesn't have the ball in his hand, and
• 16:26
  Speaker 10: you know he's been able to do some things in
• 16:28
  Speaker 10: a run game, and you know, learns quickly to be
• 16:31
  Speaker 10: able to move.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Him around at different positions offensively.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Thoses you didn't see out there yesterday, kind of left
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: practice earlier the day before.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Is that easing him back in still or is that
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: something he knew he's.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Doing with Probably a combination of both.
• 16:44
  Speaker 10: And just want to be smart and you know, make
• 16:46
  Speaker 10: sure that everybody's playing is the best one for them
• 16:48
  Speaker 10: to to be.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Prepared for the season.
• 16:51
  Speaker 10: So you know, more than I'll do a little bit today,
• 16:54
  Speaker 10: it won't do much and then you know, we'll see
• 16:56
  Speaker 10: where he is at the next opportunity, which would be Friday.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: You mentioned spect for d Q. He did it last year,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: first year with the team.
• 17:03
  Speaker 10: What's the biggest challenge for a coach in his first
• 17:05
  Speaker 10: season with a team? Just putting a lot of different
• 17:09
  Speaker 10: people together, figuring out who the core players are, the
• 17:13
  Speaker 10: ones that you want to bring in the coaching staff,
• 17:15
  Speaker 10: the organizationally, the support staffs to get it to where
• 17:19
  Speaker 10: you want it and you feel comfortable about it. And
• 17:22
  Speaker 10: that's that's what he did. He did an excellent job
• 17:25
  Speaker 10: of and we're hoping to do the same thing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 11: Like I've heard some medical coaches say that they get
• 17:30
  Speaker 11: more out of joint practices than they do in the
• 17:33
  Speaker 11: preseason game for kicks out process on that, I.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Think that they're important. I think that you know, they
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: may not be.
• 17:42
  Speaker 10: Live, but I think that there's still great tempo, there's
• 17:44
  Speaker 10: great speed, the competitiveness.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: But I as I mean that the games are important.
• 17:49
  Speaker 10: That the games to go out there and operate and
• 17:53
  Speaker 10: see the penalties and the speed of it and the
• 17:57
  Speaker 10: timing of it, the time with the two minute and
• 17:59
  Speaker 10: all those differentferent things and tackling and being able to
• 18:01
  Speaker 10: get get guys at the ground, being able to break tackles,
• 18:06
  Speaker 10: you know, playing cut box and all those things that
• 18:08
  Speaker 10: we don't see in practice.
• 18:09
  Speaker 12: Like you guys, obviously your defense is to see Drake
• 18:12
  Speaker 12: May on a daily basis in practice. But what kind
• 18:14
  Speaker 12: of uh maybe different challenge does Jayden Daniels post.
• 18:17
  Speaker 10: Well, again, we'll have to see what they call and
• 18:19
  Speaker 10: what Cliff calls and what they run. But he talented,
• 18:25
  Speaker 10: makes great decisions, but also very fast. And you know
• 18:30
  Speaker 10: while he scrambles and he can run with the football,
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: you know rarely takes a big hit, which is very
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: impressive for for any player, especially a quarterback. And he's
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: not the not the biggest guy, but you know, you
• 18:43
  Speaker 10: just don't see him taking too many hits when he
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: runs like.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Marcus, Brian get he increase reps in th starters, lost
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: a couple of viass.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: What have you seen from the seven drund page this offseason?
• 18:54
  Speaker 10: Marcus has gotten better is you know, trying to compete
• 18:56
  Speaker 10: at left tackle and right tackle, and you know, when
• 18:59
  Speaker 10: somebody goes down or they're not available, we just put
• 19:02
  Speaker 10: the next guy in there and then we evaluate him
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: and if he earns the opportunity to stay there, he
• 19:06
  Speaker 10: stays there. And Marcus has done that.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I think he's gotten better each and every day played
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the left, switched over and played on the right. And
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you did a nice job the other day. At the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: end of.
• 19:16
  Speaker 12: Practice, into the consideration that having with one to in practice.
• 19:21
  Speaker 10: Have two because Washington only wanted to come up for
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: one day.
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: Mike any words of the players about the fights and stuff.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Like that out here.
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: We want to practice the same way we practice against
• 19:34
  Speaker 10: our team, and that's by playing physical and aggressive and
• 19:38
  Speaker 10: not doing stuff that hurts the team.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And you know, certainly don't expect.
• 19:42
  Speaker 10: Any of that, and if it does, we'll have to
• 19:44
  Speaker 10: handle it accordingly. And I just you have to be
• 19:46
  Speaker 10: able to play competitively and physically without you know, letting
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: your emotions get the best of you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Any plans for a live tackling to everything like that, No, well,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: you're when.
• 19:57
  Speaker 12: To come to just to kind of fall up on
• 19:58
  Speaker 12: the Gene Daniels question. Heard your defensive line guys talk
• 20:01
  Speaker 12: about being aggressive.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: And getting off the ball fast.
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: Do you have to against the more athletic quarterback temper
• 20:06
  Speaker 12: that for some guys.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, you just have to be coordinated.
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: You have to be relentless and coordinated in your rush
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: and based on some calls, and you know, if you're
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: not going to be, you know, where's going to be
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: some scrambles today that we need to coach off of
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: and and see, so that's that'll be a good thing.
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: And uh, you know, we haven't talked too much about it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 10: We're going to go and practice, and then I think
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: the best thing will be to be able to correct
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: it and and show it and figure out what we
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: need to do if we were going into a game, and.
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: Like what amount of preparation that you put in with
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: the players to familiarize themselves with.
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: Just a little bit, you know what I mean, just
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: a little bit, just enough for maybe they're they've show
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: us some things that we haven't done on either side
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: of the football, and making sure that they're they're prepared
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: for some of that if they choose to run the
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: quarterback in the red zone or whenever they want to
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: do it, or some of their plays that we maybe
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: haven't seen. And then defensively, some of the looks that
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: he may or may not get that we haven't gotten
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: from our defense. So I want to try to give
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: the players the best opportunity to come out here and
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: be evaluated and so that they feel comfortable and they
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: feel like.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: They've maybe seen something. If they haven't, then we have
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to adjust to it pretty quickly. You were a teamate
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: at Cliff Kingsbury for a relatively short period of time.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: What if anything do you remember about him as a player.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: He wasn't better than Tom Brady.
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: Uh, just you know, Cliff, Cliff's a good friend. There's
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: I mean, there's a handful of coaches over there that
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: I've that I've played with in the league, whether that's
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: a year or you know, in Larry's case, eight years.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: So they got a good staff.
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: They've got a good mix of guys that have played
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: in this league and other guys that that didn't.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: But that's a good coaching staff that they have.
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: And you know, Cliff's really done a nice job everywhere
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: he's been offensively.
• 21:50
  Speaker 11: When you ever get him got together talking about this practice,
• 21:53
  Speaker 11: are there situations where they'll say to you, Mike, at
• 21:56
  Speaker 11: this point, we want to see something that you'll set
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: something up that he wants to see his team against
• 22:01
  Speaker 11: and vice versa.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked.
• 22:02
  Speaker 10: I mean that the scheme is we don't get into
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: the scheme so much. Is more situationally, what do we
• 22:08
  Speaker 10: want to see as it relates to first, second, third, third,
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: and long. Maybe we're going to be in a no
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: huddle period or you know, how do you want to
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: operate or we'll be on the ball. Let's get some
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: red zone in, Let's get some red zone seven on seven.
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: You know the quarterback can can look to us first
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: read got to get the ball out or probably extend
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: the play, which is realistic in pro football in the
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: red zone.
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: Like the guys that you know, their ticket to make
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: the roster be on special teams.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: You just mentioned Larry Zoe.
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: Are there Larry Izzo qualities that you look for when
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: you're looking at special teams guys?
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: Well, our passion for playing football, competitive spirit production, I
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: think would.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Be the biggest thing.
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: Understanding speed and space and blocking angles and you know it,
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: it's a skill and it's an art and certainly Larry
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: uh did it as well as anybody, So I would
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: say that the competitive spirit would probably be at the
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: at the top of the list of looking for adjectives
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: to describe Larry.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: That was Mike Rabel and uh he addressed the media
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and like we thought, uh, there was the question about
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: are you gonna, you know, talk with Dan quinn and
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: come up with certain scenarios and yeah, and so uh good,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I mean we we said we actually saw it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the first time they talked
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: about practice, but certainly they were going over things that
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: they were expecting to see out in the field before practice.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: Also Dan Kuinn said Terry mcclorin did not make the
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: trip for anyone who was interested, not that we expected
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: to see him practice anyway, but and also Mike Brabel
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: said no life tackling today, So just something to note.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would expect that. I mean, we've seen a
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: lot of joint practice. Is we've never seen bringing people
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: to the ground. Well yeah, all fights, but not that
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: they wanted. Yeah, not not intentionally right. Uh, as you
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: can see Drake may is warming up out on the field.
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: I just thought it was interesting too that Brabel kind
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: of mentioned how Washington peaked at the end last year,
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: you know, to help get them into the playoffs and
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: make a little bit of a run there. And that's
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: something I think he's very aware of. I mean, I know,
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: you know, yesterday Greg but Our said he thought there
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: was a light pract one of the lightest practices training
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: camps he's ever seen. Uh, you know, maybe that's connected
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: to Rabel's philosophy of managing some of these guys. We've
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: seen extensive plans with that, talked about Morgan Moses's plan.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: So I think we're just getting to know Mike Brabil
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: as a coach now and a little bit of the
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: ins and outs what he believes, especially here in training camp.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so as we uh wait to get you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: some of the drills going, I will say the place
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: is packed.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of people. There's a lot of people
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: coming up the ramps. Yeah, you know, to our right.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: And it's typical for a joint practice. I mean, the
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: weather is really conducive for it. It's not oppressively hot.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: It's a it's a nice, nice day, not not a
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: really hot day. And I'm looking at the stands behind you, Freddy,
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: they look like they're pretty pretty packed in.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: The hill looks like it's pretty packed in.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: So we see a steady stream of people coming.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: So, uh, I don't know, thirty forty thousand, maybe.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Thirty five let's go, let's call it thirty five thousand.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, conservatively, Okay, Yeah, no, I mean listen, it's a Wednesday.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful day, a little overcast, but it's perfect
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: for uh football practice.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Uh so why not. It's free, bring the kids, find
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: a place.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: It's a great time.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna go to one day. We've been saying
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: since the spring. This is the day that you would pick,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: you know, the joint practice day. So there'll be a
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: lot of different things to keep an eye on, you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: like we talked about one on ones and what that
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: might mean for linemen and for receivers and backs, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: then we talk about seven on seven in the red zone.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: You just or might be able to talk about that
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: a little bit. And you know how it you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: quickens up the pace the clock for the quarterback. You
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: almost always have to move, you know, down in the
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: red zone when you're doing even seven on seven. So
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: you know, to see some of those things, see some
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: of the reactions that there should be a lot to.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Watch, absolutely, and I think so after this obviously there
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: won't There'll probably be a walk through tomorrow, but it
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: won't be open to the public. And then we have
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the preseason game on Friday. Players will be off on Saturday,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: as they typically are after a game. There'll be a
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: public practice on Sunday. So is that your last opportunity
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: if you want to come down and watch a practice, correct, Yeah,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: so that's it Sunday.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: This boy, this went fast, huh. It came fast and
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: it went fast.
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there'll be a few more practices open to the
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: media for us, but.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about the public. Yeah, that's it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: We'll be out here until the end of preseason week
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: number three. Yeah, so we'll have a few more for
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: you that we can talk about and tell you what's
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: going on. But Sunday is the last chance for the public.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: So the Patriots will be in blue today.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all blue for the Patriots, you see, not
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: just not just the defense.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you see Pop Douglas and mccollins and some of
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: the other wide receivers kind of warming up in their blues.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Is it's kind of weird because they've been in white
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: every day and the defense is in blue.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: But now we're one team. We're back to one team.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: We're all one.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Patriots United. We are all Patriots, and so there
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: is there. They're gotta be wearing their blues.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: Well, a big day for this guy right here, Pop Douglas,
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: who's had a really good camp, showing off his arm,
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: showing off his arm a little bit. Well, he tried
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: to show it off in the stadium. He should he
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: probably should have ate that one and threw it out
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: of bounds. But you know the other guy, I want to
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: talk about right next to those MATC Collins, which, no,
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to talk about his hanging shirt, Paul,
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: don't worry, but I do want to say, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: when we were out in Vain, and I brought it
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: up a couple of times, like I was enamored with
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: DeVante Adams and him and Hunter Renfro were obviously the
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: engines of that offense, but I just was impressed with
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: seeing mac Collins on the field that I remember, you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: just watching him a little bit and saying, man, he
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: seems like a really good compliment to these two other
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: guys going and looking. I mean, he's kind of bounced
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: around the league, and at that point, he kind of
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: bounced around the league. But I think everybody took note
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: when he came back last week off of pup that
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: he was kind of right in the mix. And I
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: continue to think that he is somebody that we're not
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: really mentioning enough. That is that I think Josh McDaniels
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: has a real plan for both special teams and maybe
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: some special spots on offense. But he's got some size,
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: he's got some experience. Loved the leadership that he brought.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: I think he's a real wild card in that room.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just wonder, like, where's the line of taking
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: the reps from the younger guys, because I can tell
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: you right now there's going to be a lot of
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: people that if Mac collins is taking reps from Kyle Williams,
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: they're not going to be happy about that. And either
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: there's Kyle Williams or Booty or if they keep Javon Baker, like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: those guys have more ceiling, they have more potential. So
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: I agree with you that mccollins I think is going
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: to be here and have a role. But is it
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: depends on how you want to look at it. I
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: suppose whether or not that's a good thing that he's
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: going to be getting reps over Kyle Williams, I think
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: is probably the biggest Well.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, when we talk about young guys getting reps,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: we talked about will Campbell and Wilson. They're gonna get
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: reps over veterans, but they're better. Yeah, Okay, I would
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: say the same thing for wide receiver. If Kyle Williams
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: right now is better than Mac Collins, I don't think
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: he is at this point. And we need to get
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: this offense rolling we need to, you know, get it
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: going early as much as possible. So in that case,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I want the best wide receivers out there. I'm not
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: worried about young guys getting reps and getting developed. I
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: want guys that can function in this offense. For Drake
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Man to be able to execute.
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's more than fair. I just know that that's
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: not how a lot of fans are going to look
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: at it from the outside looking in, because they want
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: the potential and they want the upside of the younger players.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: And that's all.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: That's all I'm saying, is you know, I think that
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: it's a hard sell to say that we're gonna have
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: a journeyman like Mac collins play over the guy that
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: we just drafted sixty ninth overall and has some potential,
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: that's all.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: And I just wonder where that line is, you know.
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: And I was also thinking about this and as it
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: relates to Kendrick Bourne too, like do you you know
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: they're not exactly the same type of receiver, But if
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: you already have the mccollins of like if Kyle Williams
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: is not quite ready, or if Kayshawn Booty is not
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: taking that next step you have the steady veteran that
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: you can put in there.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Do you really need.
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: Two of those kinds of guys with Kendrick Bourne and
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: Mac Collins or like, does that allow does mac Collins'
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: involvement allow you the freedom to keep a Chisholm, to
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: keep a Baker, to keep a Polk as sort of
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: a developmental player on the right.
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's so clear how much more Mac Hollins would
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: kind of do than Kendrick Born would overall on the roster,
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: you know, just in terms of special teams, in terms
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: of being a little bit different within that wide receiver room.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: I think you make a great point of It's it's
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: really just a question of you know, I don't know
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: if Kyle Williams looks ready to jump in, you know
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: and take a big role right out of the gate,
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: So you know, you do I see it as to start,
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: You've got Booty who's had a strong camp, continues to
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: contribute on the outside, stretches the field a little bit
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: in Hollands, so you know, you mix and match those
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: guys a little bit, but absolutely you got to give
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: Kyle Williams every opportunity to work his way in and
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: you know, if he can bring an element of explosive
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: downfield playmaking, which I think is a little bit limited,
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: like EEV said with with Hollands and Booty, then that
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: could really take this offense to the next level.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: No, I agree with that, everything being even, I always
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: go for the younger guy, you know, get them in there.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: But I don't think it's even right now.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: No, And I mean it's about you know, it's a
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: long season two and you want to make sure. I mean,
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: I just I mean, the easiest comparison to make is
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: to Javon Baker, who you know, I think Mac Hollins is,
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: he is what he is, but he's a picture of
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: consistency in what he does. So you know, maybe that's
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: an example of somebody like Jaymon Baker where it might
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: be a little bit more feast or famine up and
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: down that he can find some of that steadiness that
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: Mac Collins is trying to pass along to those younger guys.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But you know what, you know, having said what I
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: just said, I still would love to see whenever they
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: can get Kyle Williams in there, you know, get it,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: get him some reps. Sure, you know I'm talking about
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: during the regular season. Uh so we're seeing uh, Matt Collins,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: and I mean.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: He looks the far I just looking at him, I'm like,
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: this guy's a beast, like you know, I mean, I
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: know he is what he is.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's a nice place.
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: And I'm not trying to dump on Matt Collins. There's
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: nothing against him whatsoever. I just I know how the
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: mind of the fan works and that they want to
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: see the young guys, they want to see the rookie,
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: they want to see the second year guys, pull Baker, Chisholm,
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: Yep Williams.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: But you know what Matt Collins is. We don't know
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: what Kyle Williams is. Kyle Williams.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: Williams may have Larren, he might have a bigger ceiling
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: and you know that That's what you know, people are
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: going to be wondering about now.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Based on you know, eleven days of camp.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: I think it's been a little bit of a slow
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: uh you know, indoctrination for Kyle Waims.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I think he's he's flashed a little bit.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: We've seen some big plays from him, but we've seen
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: other periods of time where he's been you know, just
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: sort of out there and not really showing up as much.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: So I think there's some some talent there.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: There's certainly, you know, a skill set that is intriguing,
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: but we want to see it on a more consistent basis.
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: I think the biggest thing with him right now is
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: the physicality at this level. Is he going to be
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: able to get off press coverage? Is he going to
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: be able to use his body to create separation at
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: the first two levels of the defense. He can run
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: by people on the outside, We've seen that already, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: is he gonna consistently be able to go out there
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: and finish through contact and get off physical coverage that
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: you're going to see at this level at his size
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: and at his just the build that he has, I
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: think is something.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: That I've noticed.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: Like the other day we you know DJ James, Like
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: you ran a little comeback route and DJ James is
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: just all over it and broke up the pass. You know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: like those types of things. You know, you got to
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: carve out space for yourself. You got to be able
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: to get open at the top of the route, like
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: you have to figure out ways to use your body
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: and your physicality to also win at this level along
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: with your speed, so.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Are the commanders on the lower field were going to
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: warm up separate there in the park.
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: I like when they do that because then you kind
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: of come together and it's like a It's like a
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: moment entered thunder.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: The West Side story.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, don't you remember in Green I love that as
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: my favorite.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: God, it was like you were entering the college.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: Right, They're just waiting for it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. Yeah, it was insane.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Yea.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: I have a question for you.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: Did you feel like Williams could have done maybe come
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: back to the ball a little bit more on that
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: final interception and in stadium, you know, we talked about
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: Drake probably not throwing the ball with Alex Austin sitting
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: on that route, but I kind of felt too part
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: of it might have been Kyle Williams needing to come
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: back to the ball.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe a compete, Yeah, maybe come back for the ball,
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: or even just like sell the fade a little bit
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: more to get him to have to bail out and
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: bite on it, or even just like this is a
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: manute that I would never know if it was the
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: case or not, but like, is he writing the right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Depth of the route?
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: Right, you know, they like get him off all these
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: little things, Like I just wonder if he's clearly fast
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: and he's clearly explosive and talented in that regard. I
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: just to play every single down in the NFL, you
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: have to be on the p's and q's at all
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: times and all those little things. Because if you're supposed
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: to break off your route at eight yards and you
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: break it off at ten, that's pick six going the
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: other way.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Like, that's how it works at this level.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: And it's easy to look at a play like that.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: We all watched him, are like, man, you know, what
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: does Drake may do?
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he threw the ball right to Alex Austin.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: But you just brought up five different scenarios, Evan that
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: any one of which could have been a much more
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: mitigating factor as to why that play happened, and none
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: of them really had anything to do with Drake May.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Now doesn't mean he should have thrown the ball, and
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: doesn't mean it's a good play by the quarterback by
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: any means. But it might have been a bad route,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: it might not have been at the right depth, it
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: might have been not selling something something.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Didn't want his quarterback throwing a flat foolat footed corners, right, which.
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: Makes you think that it was probably more on the
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: quarterback than it was on the receiver. But we would
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: never know these little things because we're not in the
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: playbook and we're not in the film rooms, in the
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: in the practice meetings and all that kind of stuff.
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: So I just wonder where that that goes.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Sounds to me the rabel's putting it on both of them. Yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the receiver was flat footed and may should have corner.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: The corner was flat throw it to a flat footed corner.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: That means he's sitting on the.
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: Round, Like, maybe you just got to he had to
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: sell the route a little bit better. Like that's a
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: coaching point for Kyle Williams. We're talking about the receivers
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: in the media tent down there, saying that Stefan Diggs
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: is not on the field.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I haven't them off yet, but that doesn't mean he's
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: not out.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: There, So I don't.
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: I don't know if he's not going to be participating
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: in this prize today or not, but as of right now,
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: he is not out there and practice has started, right,
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: we're past that.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Well, that's disappointing. Yes, definitely.
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: But at the same time, us like Carlton Davis is
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: out here in pads. He's been mostly a walk through participant,
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: but he's amping up the That's a good developation a
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: little bit. But I am curious about Diggs.
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: Got to keep him under rap.
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: Maybe that's what it is, Deuce. I'm gonna take the
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: glass out full view on that, but.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: He don't get to see what we're doing with digs yet.
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: He's been out there for every practice so far. There's
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: been no signs that anything with the knee or anything
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: like that of any setbacks whatsoever. Yesterday was a walkthrough
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: and he was here. Yeah, so it's not like he
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: did anything physical yesterday that that would have knocked him
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: off the field.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Might just be as simple as they don't want to
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: subject him to any possibility of contact yet, right, you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: it could be a very simple I did.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: I did catch a video of him yesterday walking out
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: of five.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Guys here, and I did I did see that.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: So maybe he got himself a you know, a double burger,
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: and he's digesting it.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe it's like, well, if you're not gonna have
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: mclorin out there, then we're not going to have right right.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: It's always funny when you see those videos though, because
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: it's like very clearly Patriot place. We all can recognize
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: it right off the stars.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: They're just like us. Yeah, wants a giant trough fries? Yeah, trough,
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: just take the whole fry later with you.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: They do have good fries, they do, they do, Freddy,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: Still like in and out more, still like in and out?
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Really fries, well done, they're coming, I heard.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're moving slowly east naturally.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: One of the more overrated experiences I've ever had.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: There.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: We go.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: It was fine, It was just fine.
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: He didn't get an animal style bad take.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the fans just keep piling in here.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say five guys falls into that category. Two.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Just one of the more overrated experiences I've ever had.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Apparently, you don't need people to just talk about these
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: places like it's a good burger as opposed to tell
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: me my life is.
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: I know, I know everybody is like, why are we
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: talking about burgers? This is why watching this whenever, because
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: I you know, Deuse and I both lived out in California,
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: so we've had in and out a ton and I.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Always say to everybody it's a fast food burger. Like,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: don't the way it was described to me initially, maybe
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't feel.
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: Because everybody does what Paul is saying, and I'm saying,
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: it's just better than McDonald's and all the other fast
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: food burgers.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: It's not like it's like and I would agree with this.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: We have any sponsors here that we have to worry about.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: See who we can offend you.
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: I'll keep it if you guys allow me a quick
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: thirty second story. I went with Paul last week for
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: the first time to read Robin, which you know Paul,
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: he goes to Red Rob every Friday. And it was
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: like I was walking into Cheers with Norman Cliff Clay.
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: They're like Paul, they walk in, the drinks are already
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: put down. Everybody gets it's an appetizer fry. I've never
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: seen that before.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: They're like, it's not advertiser fries, and so grow up.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: And so they have their weight, their waiter, who's their
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: guy who hooks them up?
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, and why they didn't know what deal to use.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: I mean it was that I didn't realize their.
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: Celebrity have a s oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, wow
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: they were like, dude, don't go in first.
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: We gotta go first, so we can, you.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Know, And everyone's like, hey, Norm, you know that's.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: Exactly what it felt like.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Oh that's funny, which I guess finance.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: I knew he went there every Friday forever.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: I just didn't realize the extent that the welcoming community
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: of Red Robin were huge fans of of Paul and should.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I continue to tea Red Robin also overrated?
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: It was a pretty good burger.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: You're just killing You're killing all the sponsors.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Is there any place that you've been to Paul that said, Wow,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: this really lived up to.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: The radurg rated, really lived up to the hype.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: That's a good question, Fred. I'm gonna have to give that.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't want to just like
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: flippant weight come up with you. Sure, Okay, I will say,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: like they the spring rolls at Davio's.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: I had heard about, oh steak, Yeah, and they lived
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: up to it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's a very very specific answer to that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: But so we got the owner walking on the field
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: with the special guest. I believe it might be our house.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: Oh, John bond Jovi, there you go.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Oh really, let's go.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe we can get eyes on that whoever's operating camera.
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're walking right out of the tunnel right now.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: I heard we're halfway there camp right. Well, Oh I
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: got more, I have more. I got a lot more.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I wanted dead or alive. Yeah, blood on blood,
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: I mean just I celebrate his whole catalog, to be honest.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: The other one, you and my wife.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: Those are my first two CDs I ever bought. We're
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: still free one wet in New Jersey.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I know it's sacrilegious around here, but it was never.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: A big no.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know the songs, but yeah, kind of
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: a chick ban huh.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: My wife loves him, that's fair. I mean, there's nothing
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: wrong with that. Though.
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: When they played they did all be There for You
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: was our seventh grade dance theme song, and that just
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: you know that memories, you know, taking me back.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: He has a very specific example of his childhood for everything.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Here we are for everything.
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: It's definite, like dancing with your seventh grade not your girlfriend,
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: just your friend that you weren't with.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you he's like seventy years old.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: He looks great.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: He looks great, you know.
• 42:28
  Speaker 13: Son have to see if I can get run of
• 42:31
  Speaker 13: one of those creep picks for for Beth later, like
• 42:35
  Speaker 13: your boy was here today, here you go.
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: I do like Living on a Prayer is a really
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: good stadium song, Like you get the crowds.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Especially when he's here in the suite and you can
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: show him singing along with the fans.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Which which playoff run was that they all blend together.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: There's so many of them.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I taught you, well, yeah, that's exactly how you did.
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: There was one playoff run I remember in particular where
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: I think they it was a divisional round game, and
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: they were kareaming whoever they were playing, and it was
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: like we're halfway there, like to the you.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Know, to the Super Bowl, probably the Colts, I don't
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: remember which one it was. That him in the in
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: the owner's box.
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: Singing it is that Blount Blount.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I'm still learning, all right. So that's that. Let's uh,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: we've seen them. We can probably go back to watching
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: players now.
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: I think I see Donnie Amandola down there, Diana Rossini.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: There's a cast of thousands of stars.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Now, maybe Danny A.
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: Mondola in Chisholm might have a little conversation later because
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: Spider Man, that is the receiver that Josh McDaniels made
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: a cut up of for Chisholm to watch was not Edelman,
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: It wasn't Welkert, was actually Danny A.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Mendola.
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: So he seems like there's a comp there for for
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: Josh like that that's the one that he sees the most.
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: Is gonna will this intox just for Paul, like.
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: I want him to make the team, and I want
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: him to be good, just so that I want him
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: to be good too.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: No, no, the team, No, don't don't go. Don't do
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: that whole thing.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: I just don't want to see what I've seen for
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: eleven days and have him make the team.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: The dropping the endstadium practice.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: There he is.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: Right, he's looking good. He's got the cut off thing.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: He's very fashionable. I guess that's probably a look now.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Hi, Hi Danny.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: He's got the uh what do you call those types
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: of glasses, crystal glasses?
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: I thought you were gonna say, like a baja like
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: one of those things they wear, you know, the bajas cardo.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: But you know, the thing.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: The thing about guys like Edelman and Amondola it's it's yes,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: technically they were so sound, but they were also clutch,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: like the moment didn't scare them. In fact, they they
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: almost got better in the big moments. And I don't
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: know if he can teach that. Yeah, I don't know
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: if that you can teach that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: But that that that led to up Dronkowski, you know,
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: with the great nickname that he came up with, playoff Danny.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Playoff Danny playoff very imagine.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: And it's it's not about the amount of catches that
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: they have. He when.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Was the epitome of that guy.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: He didn't have a lot of volume, but every time
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: he made a catch, it was important.
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: Right because I was gonna say, like Edelman was kind
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: of both. He had the volume. That's why he's going
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: into the Patriots Hall of Fame. Ammondola was like that
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: that the clutches, like the catch against the Jaguars and
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: the ANFC Championship games.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Such an underrated catch. Yeah, it stands out.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we were rolling, you know, the Patriots
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: were rolling and the Jaguars are giving them everything they
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: could give him on that day they came really close
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: to losing that game.
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: He caught the touchdown and the fourth down catch too
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: stop he caught he caught the fourth down catch too right,
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: Paul the it was like fourth and like twelve. They
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: had to convert it near the middle of the field.
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: I think Ammadola in cut over the middle of the field,
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: I think was what moved the chains.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: Rember, I'm the one to one in the end zone
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: zone was that was special.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Like the game winning touchdown was just unbelievable.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And Gronk is another guy that the moment didn't scare him.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: You know, his abilities were so good that it gave
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: him the confidence in any moment to just execute.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: Do you give that credit?
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: And I mean, I know we give tom Brady a
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: lot of credit, but do you give some of that
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: credit to Tom Brady? Just you have that belief in
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: him and therefore you just you don't doubt. You know,
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: if you have there's three seconds left on the clock
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: and you're within striking distance, that you've got a chance.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: And you know, it puts you on alert because they know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: in a big moment, if I'm open, if I run
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: my rounte and I do what I'm supposed to do,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: the ball's coming to me. And so like you know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: expect it.
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And then that's why I tied it to what
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: I said about Drake at the top of the show, like,
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: start to inspire that confidence in your guys a little
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: bit today. I mean, it's a joint practice. He's not
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: gonna change the trajectory of his career with a great,
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: you know, last drill today. But I just think that's
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: a cumulative thing. And when he starts to make plays
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: down the end and the competitive periods and guys start
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: to believe, and then.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: You know, you really start to pick up some momentum
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: for the offense, you.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Know, and you know, getting back to the quarterback, that
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: comes back to a lot of times we're like, you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: throw the ball, just get rid of it, even if
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: it's not perfect.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Just play the play, you know, play the play through.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: And if it turns out to be a pick or
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: guy's not in the right place and the ball hits
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: the ground. So what get used to running the play
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: as it's written up, as it's drawn up.
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: That comes back to the I think the biggest thing
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: with those types of routes that those guys would run
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: was the anticipation. Yeah, you know, Brady just knowing how
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: to read their body language, seeing the coverage the same way,
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: those conversations year over year every year. You know this
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: corner does that, I'm gonna throw it here. If he
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: does this, I'm gonna throw it there. The throw in
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: Super Bowl fifty one to Ammondola or is it Hogan
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: on the sideline there.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Got each of them, They got the cover, two.
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: Corners squatting and Brady just throws it right on the
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: inside shoulder and he knew exactly where the ball was going.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Like those types of things are.
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: I've seen a little bit of that brewing with Drake
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: and Pop Douglas, Like I think there's they're starting to
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: find that sort of rhythm, but that takes years and
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: years of repetition. That's not something that happens overnight or
• 48:12
  Speaker 8: even in one training camp Like that's that was Amandola, Edelman,
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: Gronk playing with Brady for a decade.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: That that got them to that point.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Ye, So we see Drake under the watchful eye of
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel's in the background.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know how you guys feel, but I feel
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: like Josh Dobbs has been a little bit better the
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: last couple of practices that we've seen him.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I thought he was.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: I thought he struggled quite frankly, and the first several
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: practices that we saw, I thought there were a lot.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Of ears into traffic.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think they've seen a little bit better
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: execution medium, you know, for him, you know, you have
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: to consider you know, like the system too, you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: not not a ton of familiarity there, so you know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: maybe it did take him a little while. I think
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: he's been a little bit better the last couple of practices.
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: It was it you, Paul that said, I think you
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: just like you like the style of just let it rip.
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: If you're gonna be the backup, like just get in.
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: There and and and you know, especially in practice, like
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: Fred just said, you know, get on your back, food
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: and run a play, try to have some kind of
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: timing and rhythm to it.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: And you know, it's practice. There's supposed to be mistakes, there's.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: Supposed to be some you know, rough, rough patches, and
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: you know, he's a veteran, he's been around, perfectly capable backup.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we are actually in the last period that
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: we're allowed to show you. Uh so we're gonna be
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: wrapping up soon. But before we go, I have a
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: special guest. Just because you're watching this show, We're gonna
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: give you a little inside baseball, little uh little preview of.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: What's gonna happen during the season.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if we're ready here, Matt, Matt,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: but we have a new host for our pre and
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: postgame show and her name is Claudia Bellafato.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: There she is, Claudia, Say hello.
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: Hi, everybody.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: I told Friday I wasn't I'm ready today, but he said,
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: I don't care.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel curve compared to us.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: You're camera ready, Claudia.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know, but I'm always camera ready.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Oh you don't know.
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: How badly I wanted my mic on when they were
• 50:11
  Speaker 9: talking about red Drop all the places I had a
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: lot to say, real full season.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have average, Yeah, you're gonna have You're gonna
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: have plenty of times I haven't seen there.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: Only on Friday?
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: As long as you're nice to dunkin Donuts, I think
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: everything's fair game.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: You don't want to get Kenny Keller on your case
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: all the time.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: So Claudia, you are going to be the host this
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: year of our pre and post game show.
• 50:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, very very excited. Grew up I'm a New England girl.
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: So anybody out there like, who is this lady? I
• 50:46
  Speaker 9: grew up in New England. I've been here for a
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: few years working at the stations out here. Patriots have
• 50:51
  Speaker 9: always and forever been my team. So very surreal. I
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: remember one day I was at the gym and you know,
• 50:57
  Speaker 9: I'm in between jobs, and I see an email from
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: Cursed and I'm like, hold on that, Fred, and he's like, hey,
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: we need o's for the Patriots. I call my parents,
• 51:05
  Speaker 9: I'm like, you'll never believe it, And of course they're
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: super thrilled, and yeah, we're gonna have a lot of fun.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I'm excited.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: So your parents said, Fred.
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: Who My Dad's like, I know who that is.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Really, he's the one not to bull smoke. Friend.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Don't get too big of a head.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: All right, So we've got about a minute left. Give
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: us your quick synopsis of what you're looking for this
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: year with this team.
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there's no way we can do any worse. I think,
• 51:32
  Speaker 9: you know, we talk win totals. I think eight wins
• 51:35
  Speaker 9: makes a lot of sense for this team. You look
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: at the the East in general, I think the teams
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: around them are much lesser. And we'll talk it at
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: length about Steph Diggs, but I think just having him
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: there and look at the competition he had when it
• 51:47
  Speaker 9: came to targets and with the Texans, and he's still
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: I think performed well there and just more weapons. You
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: guys can argue about what is, but they.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: Have more to do that.
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: You know, we have a real tackle, We have a
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: right tackle. The on line in general should be better.
• 52:03
  Speaker 9: We spent all that money on the defense. So I'm
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: really excited about the Patriots in general.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I think Drake May is great.
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: I think this really is interesting to see what this
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: first preseason game him and you know, the rookie of
• 52:14
  Speaker 9: the year in Jade and Daniels. There's a big age
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: gap the same draft class, and yeah, I'm really excited
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: to get started here on Friday.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be a good season out that age gap. Oh,
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: we'll talk about it.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I think I think Daniel says grandkids at this point.
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: I heard yeah, yeah, No, I mean fifth year and
• 52:36
  Speaker 9: he did a lot of L s U and his
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: fifth year, and I think that showed us what he
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: was going to give us in the NFL, but but
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: he over exceeded expectations, and so I don't know if
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: it's totally fair to compare him in Drake May. But
• 52:46
  Speaker 9: of course they're going to do that when you're in
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: the same class, all right, and yeah, I'm excited.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Well that's great. So that's gonna be it for uh,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: this practice. We're gonna go down and watch the practice.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Induce in Paul and Evan, right, you'll.
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: Wrap up, we'll have them.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll wrap up everything you see in the training
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: camp cast, which will come out later today, So you know,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: any all the opinions and analysis, you'll still get that
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: later today. But I just want to thank Claudia for
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: joining us again. This is a little sneak peek at
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: our new pre and postgame host. We'll make an official
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: announcement before the regular season, so you know, we'll blow
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: all that out with Claudia. But you know, I as
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: a thank you for watching this, I thought maybe we'd
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: give people a little inside information today, all right, Yeah,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: a little inside baseball. So for Claudia, Evan, Paul, myself, Deuce,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: everybody behind the scenes. I want to thank you for
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: watching today, we're gonna go and get down to practice. Uh,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: stay tuned on Patriotsocial and Patriots dot com for all
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: the content that we're going to be putting out.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: And when's the next time we'll be talking to people?
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Well, the pregame show, right, if you have tomorrow tomorrow.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: We'll have PU tomorrow, right yeah?
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what am I saying?
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know? It was confused. I was like, are
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: we not doing?
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: I get mixed up.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: So we'll be back at noon tomorrow with PU. You're
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: gonna be what time tomorrow before right after twotiforecast twenty two,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: and then we've got the pregame show on Friday, right yep?
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and of course don't know what time.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Don't forget the Brady statue unveiling on Friday. That'll be
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: stream live at six o'clock on Patriots dot com.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: All right, thanks everyone for watching, see you later.
• 54:31
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• 54:33
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  Speaker 6: Thanks a lot,