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Indiana Wins Big Ten Championship | College Football Playoff Reaction - Miami's In, Notre Dame's Out · Height Differential

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  Give it, give it to me. I feel like starting this with
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  like the hangover. We are back, we are back.
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  How long has it been? It feels like I know the number.
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  I feel like the exact number. Like we've been like hibernating
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  for the winter. We've just come out of The Cave.
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  It's been 2 1/2 weeks almost. Oh my gosh, it's way too long.
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  We probably lost all of our listeners in that time.
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  All of our 4 listeners. They thought we quit.
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  Maybe. Maybe they thought we were
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  beefing. I mean like they thought we
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  broke up. That makes for better a better
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  pod of beef. It makes for a better pod.
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  No, no beef. You just decided to to jet off
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  to the Cayman Islands for four weeks, or however long it seemed
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  like you were gone and just decided to sit on the beach.
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  Well, I mean, to be fair, it was 83 and sunny every single day.
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  I did try to get you to do one one night and you had something
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  going on. It was the night before
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  Thanksgiving. Wednesday night.
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  I was like, hey, let's do it. We had a men's, but we we had a
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  men's basketball game that night.
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  But I, I will say, I don't know, like if we're going to do this
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  pod and where somebody's travelling, we got to be better.
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  You got to bring the mic, you got to, you got to have better
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  Wi-Fi. I set up the entire night when
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  we recorded before I flew to the Caymans in the Cincinnati
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  Airport hotel and downloaded that.
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  It took the entire night for that thing to upload and I'm
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  still don't even have it uploaded until I got to the
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  Charlotte airport the next day. I did not sleep that night.
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  So that that shows commitment. Sounds like a lot of complain
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  and whining and crying over there on your part.
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  I think it's it sounds a little more like just grinding.
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  Just grinding. Well, grinding, I was ready to
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  do a show when you were in the Caymans and you decided, Nope,
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  I'm going to go out with my friends and have a few beverages
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  and. It was the last night.
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  It was the last night I see. Where your priorities are, I see
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  that you go to the Caymans, you make new friends.
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  You don't want to talk to any of us in Louisville anymore.
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  So I. Mean along the beach the entire
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  day, a lot of seven fathoms and wrong some K brew lights.
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  So why do you look like you're out in a snowstorm when you're
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  sitting in your living room? I'm not in the.
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  Living room? Is your V broken over there?
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  No, it's just cold outside. Hang in, look from outside.
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  You're. About to go play, pick up hockey
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  on the ice, pond Outback like. I'll play some sports.
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  Hockey's not going to be one of them.
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  No. I don't.
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  I don't do anything that rolls or slides underneath my feet to
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  where the legs can go opposite directions.
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  Yeah, that's, that's not it for me.
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  Oh yeah, you, you, you just look like you're cold in your own
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  house. And look at the, I'm going to
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  get like some heating and cooling business out there to,
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  to take a look at it for you, I mean.
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  It I was used to 83 and sunny for every day and then I come
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  home to a damn Blizzard. What land?
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  Land at 12:30? What Tuesday morning at this
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  point? I traveled all day last Monday.
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  Land at 12:30 Tuesday morning. There's supposed to be snow.
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  I'm like, it ain't snowing. Let we're going drive for about
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  20 minutes and then it's a Blizzard.
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  Boo Boo. I had to go to the Cayman
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  Islands and now I have. To go to a Blizzard, 18 Wheelers
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  just blowing by me like nothing's going on.
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  You can't see 5 feet in front of you.
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  I, I'm going down 71, should have stopped at the Verone exit
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  and it's like 10 miles to the next exit.
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  Finally got there camped out at a gas station for like 4 hours.
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  2 hours into the stay, I get a knock on my window because I'm
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  actually at the pump because I'm covered.
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  Get a knock on the the window. Hey, you can't park here.
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  We got customers, lady. You ain't got nobody coming to
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  get gas in a Blizzard. So I have to move at 5:30.
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  I'm like, all right, I'm going go like 25 miles an hour for
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  about 30 minutes. And then finally the the roads
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  have been hit a little bit by the trucks.
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  Was able to get up to about 4550.
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  Pulled in the driveway at about 7:00.
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  AM man? What?
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  You're just a superhuman hero. Like look at you.
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  No, I mean, I've sat and did nothing for four hours.
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  I don't think that's very superhuman.
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  The. You make it seem like like, like
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  you're like the old man. Back in my day, I had to go 15
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  miles up the hill with no shoes and it's just a.
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  Week ago, back in my day. My.
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  Like a week ago. Back in you tough enough.
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  It takes a lot for me to pull over.
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  I don't actually know if I've ever done that.
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  But there you could not. No, there was no way.
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  There was no way. But we made it, slept for a
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  couple hours, got some work in on Tuesday, and then we couldn't
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  do the show last Wednesday because you were on the road at
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  Arkansas. And we we're finally back that
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  is the six foot 6 nil. I am the four foot 10, Nick.
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  It is finally back the height differential and we got a lot to
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  talk about. Yeah.
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  College Football Playoffs are here.
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  We have the first round matchups.
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  We have the buys. We have it all.
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  We've got the controversy, we've got the matchups, we've got the
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  playoffs. We've got it.
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  We got it all, little bit of everything.
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  We'll talk a little NFL, we'll talk to Bengals after getting a
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  big win at Baltimore, looking like they what you wanted them
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  to kind of look like because you knew their defense wouldn't be
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  going to be great. They're moving the ball, but
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  they figured out a way to lose. We'll obviously go into that.
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  Lebron's scoring streak of 1,000,000 games with 10 plus
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  points came to an end in Toronto.
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  A raccoon gets drunk at a liquor store, and I think we'll end it
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  with the another team tall versus team small draft we'll
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  do. We'll do Christmas movies.
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  We'll look see if we can throw in another hot take like the
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  noodles and gravy. That's still like to this day,
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  people still come up to me and be like, what is wrong with Nick
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  Evans and noodles and gravy? Well, you're going to have to
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  tell Grandma Whalen that she was.
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  Grandma. I mean, was Grandma Whalen?
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  Was she German? According to my mom, her maiden
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  name was Rock. My other grandma was German.
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  According to my mother, she says that when she was growing up,
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  her grandparents made noodles and gravy as well and it was a
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  German thing, but that that stopped along the way somewhere.
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  Thank goodness I'm. Sure, that's where it derived
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  from. But yeah, I mean, I shouldn't
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  have picked it so high, but I was picking what my favorite
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  are. I was picking.
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  I love it. I'm definitely going to pick it,
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  but I could have picked it 6 or 7.
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  You could have picked a dead last behind.
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  It I mean, I also will agree we've gotten some beat for not
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  taking the white Turkey. We only took the dark Turkey.
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  Dark Turkey is superior. I don't disagree with that.
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  But we also we messed up pumpkin pie should have been on there.
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  I'll take I'll take blame for that.
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  Should have put Pumpkin blind there.
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  It's it's not going to be perfect.
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  It's not going to be perfect, but it's, it's fun to hear
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  everybody. I mean, for the last two weeks,
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  all I've heard is you're an idiot.
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  Noodles and gravy, we'll say. Well.
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  Sorry, my grandma. 'S noodles and gravy were
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  delicious and my mom has carried on the tradition.
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  I mean, that's just another reason for people to call you.
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  You usually get called an idiot throughout the year, not just
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  throughout Thanksgiving, but that's just another reason.
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  Because I love what my mom and my grandma cooked.
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  Whoa, you're an idiot. Like, are you kidding me?
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  I admit there's some things I'm idiot for.
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  That ain't one of them. Picking noodles and gravy suck
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  it overall is pretty bad. All right, well, let's let's get
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  into this playoff. Yeah.
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  Going into it kind of had an idea really I guess were there
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  surprises on championship Sunday in the IU Ohio State game was
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  was a great game. Didn't really have an effect on
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  on the the other than one and two.
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  Texas Tech kind of put BYU to bed with BYU could have got in
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  if they would have won, but after going straight down the
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  field and look like this is going to be different.
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  They did nothing the rest of the game and Georgia puts it on
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  Alabama. Which really, I mean I guess I
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  don't know if you should get penalized for making this
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  championship game and losing, but BYU clearly did as they fell
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  multiple spots. Alabama doesn't fall at all, but
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  I guess you got to start at Notre Dame being moved out and
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  Miami being moved in despite the fact that neither one of them
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  played. Yeah, I mean, that's that's
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  that's what everybody's talking about is, you know, like that,
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  that last at large spot and who should have had it.
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  Was it Miami? Was it Notre Dame?
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  What should it have been? BYU and people were.
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  Well, and I think Alabama needs to be in there, too.
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  Vanderbilt was even mentioned as an outside chance of maybe
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  getting that last spot. But I mean, when you when you
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  look at it all, and yes, BYU got penalized for playing in that
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  game because they they got moved back a spot.
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  They weren't in the playoff last week in the rankings, but they
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  got jumped by a Miami team who did not play a game.
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  So when you do that, then the committee all of a sudden uses
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  that logic as, oh wait, Notre Dame and Miami are back-to-back
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  in these rankings. Well, let's use the head to They
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  just decided to do it, you know, in in the last week when neither
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  one of them played a game. So I think the committee got it
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  right. I just think that they got it
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  right too late. I think that Miami probably
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  should have been in ahead of Notre Dame before now.
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  Well, I mean, and look, we've talked about how these 30 minute
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  shows that are made for TV are kind of annoying, right?
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  They're very annoying, yes. Like they just drag it out, drag
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  it out and it's all made for TV. If you don't have these, there's
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  no controversy at all. Correct.
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  Because if you look at it side by side, there's resumes are
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  very similar. And I know it's the first game
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  of the season, but Miami beat Notre Dame.
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  There you go. I mean, that's it, so.
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  I don't think that you wouldn't have what you have now.
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  I mean, the made for TV stuff is just the entertainment.
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  You still have the rankings. So when the rankings come out
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  and there's Notre Dame's ahead of Miami, there's I mean,
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  you're, you're going to have rankings every week, even if
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  it's made for TV entertainment or not, you're still going to
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  have rankings and there's still going to be controversy.
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  So just having it on TV to me is just just pointless anyway.
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  I mean, it's it's not they're. Making money off of it.
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  You're making money off of it. But I mean, I'd like to know
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  what the ratings were every week.
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  I mean, are people really watching it?
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  I mean, you're doing it at halftime of basketball games or
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  in between double headers of basketball games.
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  So you're still going to have rankings.
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  You still need rankings because you want to know, you know, like
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  if you're where your team is, if you're a coach, like where where
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  we, where are we? Like, what are we expecting?
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  So I just think that they got it wrong leading up until now and
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  they finally got it right, but they got it right at the last
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  minute. And that's what everybody's all
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  upset about. Well, Neil, so the first
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  rankings was November the 4th, and in that ranking Notre Dame
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  was 10. Do you know where Miami was?
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  Were they like 618 they? Were eighteen, Yeah.
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  And at that point both teams were were six and two.
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  And and obviously Miami had recently taken losses to
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  Louisville and SMU, so that was a kind of a recency thing.
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  Notre Dame's first two losses came at the beginning of the
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  season. Since those rankings came out on
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  November the 4th, both Notre Dame and Miami are four.
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  No obviously both of them have one win over ranked team and
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  they actually the ranked team is the same ranked team in Pitt and
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  both teams have blown out their opponents.
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  Notre Dame's average margin of victory is 38.
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  Miami's average margin of victory in those four games is
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  28. But when you go, you're 8 spots
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  behind, you're 8 spots behind and your resumes are super
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  similar in those four games where they move eight spots and
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  jump them. And that's why the head to head
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  didn't matter then, because they had them as eight teams better.
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  Well, but how many teams between those?
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  But with your 18, I mean those seven teams that are in between
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  Miami and Notre Dame, they probably all lost at some point,
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  which then when a team loses, they get dropped.
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  So Miami's going to move up, even though you might say they
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  didn't deserve it or they didn't earn it because they didn't beat
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  anybody. Well, you're not going to keep
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  them. State like people that lose are
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  going to go behind them. So eventually in those four
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  weeks, Miami caught up because people lost, seems like.
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  Still, the committee still thought that Notre Dame was 8
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  spots higher than Miami at that time at one point when they had
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  very similar resumes and knew that Notre Dame had lost to
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  Miami. Which I don't know why Notre
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  Dame was even that high to begin with.
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  They should not have been 10 even back then.
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  You look at at what they've done all year and yeah, like they
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  they have two really tough close losses, one to Miami and one I.
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  Combined 4 points. Combined 4 points.
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  But then outside of that, you know, like who, what, who else
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  have they beaten? Like what is their best win?
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  I mean, you, you played Purdue, Arkansas, Boise, NC State.
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  I mean they beat AUSC team which is probably their that's.
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  Their only ranked win? Probably their best win, but
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  that's. Their only ranked win?
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  You close the year with Stanford and Syracuse and Navy and Boston
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  College. It's like, you know, like not,
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  not not great teams. I mean, you can only beat the
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  teams that are on your schedule. And you know, Miami's head to
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  And when you can say when they're back-to-back, you got
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  to. No, I, I think they got it
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  right. I just, I don't know how at one
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  point you have them eight spots higher and then their resumes
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  were similar, then they're similar now, and now all of a
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  sudden they're in front of them. I just think it came down to
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  Notre Dame was too high to begin with then.
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  If you talk about strength to schedule, Notre Dame's is 42,
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  Miami's 44. Miami's best win, only ranked
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  win is the win at Notre Dame. I mean, obviously that's the
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  difference. I mean, look to me like you can
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  throw Alabama into the mix, like they look terrible on Saturday
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  and I don't know if you should be able to be penalized for
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  making a conference championship game.
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  You shouldn't. Now, Smoo dropped several spots
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  last year when they lost, but they still made the playoff.
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  Yeah. Alabama didn't move at all.
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  Yeah, yeah. I mean, really.
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  I mean, the only place you're going to move them is to what,
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  10? Well, that's the yeah, I mean,
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  if they're going to get in. Yeah.
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  So then you would just put Miami at 9 and I don't know if you're
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  going to do that. So I mean, Alabama, they, they
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  did not look great against Georgia.
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  But you know, you look at their whole season and you know, they
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  beat Georgia earlier in the year.
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  You know, they beat a vain a Vanderbilt team that was being
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  mentioned, you know, as one of the teams that could sneak in
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  there at the end. So A-Team, that's on the fringe
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  playoff, you know, they beat a ranked Tennessee team at the
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  time. They put a close game against
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  Oklahoma, who they're going to face again in the playoff.
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  You know, they have some some really good wins.
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  They have a bad loss. They have the worst loss.
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  They have the most teams, yeah, they have a they do have the
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  worst loss, but they also have the best win.
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  And probably, I mean, you look at that and Vandy in Tennessee,
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  they probably has a resume when you compare it between Notre
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  Dame and Miami and Alabama. They probably, even with that
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  Florida State loss, still have quite a few better wins.
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  Yeah. And and their their strength to
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  schedule is 11, I mean which is way higher than 44 and 42 in the
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  Florida State loss open the season.
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  I mean, it ends up being just a terrible loss at the time.
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  At the time you're thinking maybe.
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  Back, which if you're the committee, and I mean, this is
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  an argument Notre Dame's favor is, you know, you look at that
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  bad loss and you're like, well, it's week 1.
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  You know, like, how are they playing now?
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  How are the, how did the rest of the season go?
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  And maybe you give a little leniency because that loss was
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  in week 1 compared to if they had lost to Florida State in
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  week 10. I think if you would have lost
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  Florida State in Week 10, you're probably going to get penalized
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  a lot more than you losing to them in Week 1, which Notre
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  Dame's kind of part is they lost Week 1 to Miami, so.
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  Yeah, I mean, if you I use, I mean they weren't in head into
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  the week. So obviously them getting
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  trounced is is not going to move them in to the conversation.
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  But I mean they've got wins over Utah, who was beating the brakes
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  off of a lot of teams there at the end of the year.
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  They beat Arizona, who was is playing really well at the end
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  of the year. Their two losses are to the same
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  team. Their strength to schedule is
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  34. I'm I'm not saying that they
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  they should have got in over every over Alabama or, or or
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  Miami, but I, I don't know. I just.
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  How much, how much do you think the facts are the committee's
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  mind? I don't know if this was asked
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  to them or not was if you don't put Miami in, you're shutting
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  out a power for conference. Like, are you willing to deal
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  with the consequences of that? To me that's the AC CS fault.
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  Like figure out a way to get Miami in the in the championship
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  game when you've got a five way tie for second place.
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  You just got to follow the tiebreakers that are in place.
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  And I don't know what you like. What?
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  How do you do that? I mean, people say you go off
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  the College Football Playoff rankings.
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  Well, those don't come out until Tuesday, and you have a game on
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  Saturday. So teams that are playing in the
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  game on Saturday are going to need to know, hey, I'm playing
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  in this game before Tuesday rolls around.
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  You can't go off the previous week's rankings because that
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  could change. That could change.
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  But if Miami's playing Virginia, it you don't, you don't deal
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  with all this. How do you just say, all right,
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  you're in because we think you're better?
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  Like that's just the, I mean, that's.
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  What the playoff committee does. Have an ACC committee and then
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  the. Stand 100%.
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  That's what the playoff committee does.
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  You're just going to say that the regular season standings and
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  results just don't matter? I don't know, like I, I don't
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  know what you do, but having a Duke team that's seven and five
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  that what that's JM U's best win, right?
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  James Madison. Isn't that James Madison's best
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  win? They beat Duke.
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  Was it Tulane that beat Duke? Tulane beat.
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  Duke James Madison didn't really beat it.
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  Yeah, James, I've got their schedules up here.
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  And but that's what opens it up to this happening.
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  Is Duke playing in that game? And there's no does Tulane and
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  James Madison, do they have a chance?
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  We saw James Madison in person. No, I mean clearly like no, like
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  Notre Dame is by far a better team than both of those.
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  BYU is a better team than both of those.
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  But you can't just tell the non power four teams you're never
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  going to get a chance to win a national championship because
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  then what are we? What are you playing football
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  for? You got to give them a chance.
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  It's. Just they're both going to be 20
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  point dogs. But they they earned.
• 19:30
  They've earned the right. Let me read you off James
• 19:34
  Madison's wins. What do you want them to do?
• 19:36
  Nobody's going to schedule them. But like still like.
• 19:39
  Like they're looking. At State and Liberty, Georgia
• 19:41
  Southern, Georgia State, Louisiana Old Dominion, Texas
• 19:45
  State, Marshall, App State, Washington State, Coastal and
• 19:49
  Troy. I understand that, but what do
• 19:52
  you want them to do? They're not.
• 19:55
  They can't change Collard and the SEC is not going to say,
• 19:57
  come on, James Madison, we'll take you on as a member.
• 19:59
  Neither is the ACC or the Big 10 or the Big 12.
• 20:02
  They're stuck in a in a powerful conference.
• 20:05
  They're always going to be in a powerful conference, at least
• 20:07
  for the foreseeable future. So they can't help who's in
• 20:10
  their conference. They just play the team that's
• 20:12
  on their schedule. And I guarantee you the
• 20:13
  Alabama's of the world aren't going to schedule them.
• 20:16
  Anybody like Louisville did Louisville, Louisville did will
• 20:19
  play anybody and they lost the Louisville.
• 20:22
  Yeah, and but I mean, it wasn't the prettiest game.
• 20:24
  But I guarantee you James Madison would jump at the
• 20:26
  opportunity to play the big boys if the big boys would.
• 20:29
  So don't penalize James. So don't penalize James Madison
• 20:35
  because nobody wants to play them and that they're only can
• 20:37
  only beat the teams on their schedule.
• 20:38
  And that's what they did. Tulane's wins Northwestern,
• 20:42
  South Alabama, Duke. They're going to get a rematch
• 20:45
  against Ole Miss, where they lost 45 to 10 already.
• 20:48
  That's exciting Beat Tulsa East East Carolina Army Lost to UTSA,
• 20:54
  Memphis, FAU, Temple, Charlotte, North Texas and we.
• 21:00
  Got them. And what is there?
• 21:01
  How many of these playoff teams are missing their coaches or
• 21:05
  will be missing their? I mean coaches are leaving or
• 21:08
  have left already? Coaching Tulane.
• 21:10
  I know, and so is James Madison coach I'm pretty sure too.
• 21:12
  But absolutely, we have 3, three playoff teams who were having
• 21:15
  coaching changes. Yeah, but I that's because you
• 21:19
  got 22 non power four teams in the playoff.
• 21:24
  And if you if you get a non power four team into the
• 21:26
  playoff, guess what? You're probably going to be
• 21:28
  coaching somewhere else next year.
• 21:31
  Yeah, you're right. I mean, I, I don't think this is
• 21:34
  a thing that's going to happen often.
• 21:36
  No, but ACC has got to be better.
• 21:37
  It's the ACC's fault. AC yeah, Miami's Miami's good.
• 21:43
  They just they they. Weren't good enough to play in
• 21:45
  the ACC Championship game which causes all this.
• 21:50
  Like the point was to get one of these in here.
• 21:54
  The good news is they changed the rules from last year or
• 21:57
  Tulane would be getting a buy that.
• 21:59
  Would be insane. Yeah.
• 22:00
  No, you're right. They.
• 22:01
  Well, seriously, No, I know the top four.
• 22:03
  Yeah. Top 4 conference champions would
• 22:05
  get a buy. Yeah, we all agree that that was
• 22:08
  a bad rule to begin with. I I don't, I don't know and you
• 22:12
  don't. You don't.
• 22:14
  Honestly, here's what Here's how you fix it.
• 22:15
  There is a fix and the fix is coming.
• 22:17
  As you go to 16 teams, you get the.
• 22:19
  We're just going to keep increasing it.
• 22:21
  It'll be 64. And.
• 22:23
  Then they'll be like what we need, we need 2, we need the
• 22:26
  first four, and then they'll go to 68. 16 teams is the answer.
• 22:31
  That's enough teams. No.
• 22:32
  Then they'll be crying about 17 and 18.
• 22:34
  And then they aren't. So what if you want to want to
• 22:37
  cry about who should get in Virginia or I don't know, like
• 22:41
  what Cincinnati at that point, then like, no, like, I mean,
• 22:45
  that's dumb. I would love to see Vanderbilt
• 22:48
  in this thing. If it was a 16 team playoff,
• 22:51
  they would be. I know.
• 22:52
  But like, everybody's talking about everybody's talking about
• 22:55
  Texas and how good they played at the end of the year.
• 22:58
  They they beat A and MA and M had the weakest SCC schedule,
• 23:01
  was undefeated through 11 games. I mean, I think they're good.
• 23:06
  They beat Notre Dame, but I don't know, like like
• 23:12
  everybody's like if Texas didn't play Ohio State, would they be
• 23:14
  in? And now, now they're crying
• 23:16
  because we went on the road and played Ohio State in week one.
• 23:19
  Well, you lost to Florida too, to.
• 23:20
  Florida like yeah. I it's the it's just all goes
• 23:27
  back to the ACC because like having Tulane in this thing as
• 23:31
  the 12 would not be that big a deal.
• 23:34
  I honestly don't think Tulane should have been in over James
• 23:36
  Madison. What put James Madison right
• 23:37
  that into it can. You just read the the teams that
• 23:40
  I said James Madison beat. Yeah, they beat them all.
• 23:42
  You just told me Tulane lost to Texas San Antonio.
• 23:45
  That's you lose Texas, San Antonio, you don't get in the
• 23:48
  playoff. You lose the Louisville, you do
• 23:49
  get in the playoff because there's two teams in the
• 23:51
  playoffs that lost the Louisville and they're still
• 23:52
  winning. Let's see, UTSA at the time was
• 23:55
  four and four and not. They didn't just lose, they lost
• 23:59
  48 to 26. Yeah, like, no, like that's an
• 24:01
  automatic disqualification from the playoff.
• 24:04
  Get out, James Madison, you're in.
• 24:05
  You actually beat everybody on your schedule except for a Power
• 24:08
  14 and Tulane. You can just go to the Liberty
• 24:11
  Bowl. And you you know, like so TNTS
• 24:14
  getting playoff games for the first time.
• 24:17
  Do you know? Do you know the games they get?
• 24:19
  The first are they first round games, they get the James
• 24:22
  Madison in two lane games. Let's talk about like just
• 24:26
  keeping in with the playoff is obviously Indiana, Ohio State
• 24:30
  were two best teams all year that everybody they were ranked
• 24:32
  one and two. They play each other and a great
• 24:35
  game, defensive slugfest. Indiana wins.
• 24:38
  So they get the one spot, the one seed and Ohio State loses
• 24:43
  and they just dropped one spot to #2 which I agree with.
• 24:45
  I agree with that. I think that they should be the
• 24:47
  two, but then you look at the path and who these teams are
• 24:50
  going to play. You're Indiana, you're playing
• 24:52
  the winner of Oklahoma and Alabama and Ohio State gets the
• 24:56
  winner of Texas A&M and Miami. I if I was I you would rather
• 25:00
  have the Texas A&M and Miami winner.
• 25:03
  Personally I think you have a harder, you get the harder Rd.
• 25:06
  being the one seat here. Yeah, I mean, Oklahoma's offense
• 25:10
  has not been the same since Material got hurt early in the
• 25:12
  year. Alabama looked terrible on
• 25:15
  Saturday and they're kind of banged up.
• 25:17
  They've beaten Georgia. They've beaten next.
• 25:20
  Like we. Talked.
• 25:21
  I don't know. We talked about Texas A&M having
• 25:24
  the easiest SEC schedule. I think they're good, but I
• 25:26
  don't think that they're that good.
• 25:28
  You know, they had a miracle comeback against South Carolina
• 25:30
  when they were down 31, nothing in halftime or whatever it was.
• 25:33
  I mean, Miami's the best team they've played all year.
• 25:36
  Yeah, I think IU kind of has the harder second round match up
• 25:41
  being the one seat. To be fair, these are the 10
• 25:44
  best teams in the country. Leave the 11 and 12 out of it.
• 25:49
  You're not going to get an easy Rd.
• 25:51
  Every game's going to be hard, especially if you get a bye.
• 25:53
  But I mean, do do you? You started talking about the
• 25:56
  like, it's just can you comprehend the fact that Indiana
• 26:02
  has beat Ohio State to win the Big 10 Championship?
• 26:07
  That's it's pretty surreal. Like, no, like nobody in our
• 26:10
  lifetime, nobody would have thought this was possible.
• 26:13
  Like they've always, they stunk when when we were kids and even
• 26:17
  up until all of our adult lives until last year.
• 26:21
  So they were. The worst like Power Four team.
• 26:24
  In the history of football, they had the most.
• 26:25
  That's true. They do have the most.
• 26:26
  They had the most losses in college football.
• 26:29
  I think Northwestern might have just overtaken them this this
• 26:33
  season for most losses in college football history.
• 26:35
  So no, it's a it's absolutely a miracle what Curt Signetti's
• 26:39
  done. And honestly, the miracle is the
• 26:42
  word Yeah. Amazing.
• 26:44
  Like in your biggest dreams you would not have imagined.
• 26:48
  And they're not doing it with five star recruits and and all
• 26:52
  that, like they're doing it like the the key players on this
• 26:55
  team. Mendoza's a transfer from Cal,
• 26:57
  but a lot of these guys that are still around were transfers from
• 27:00
  James Madison, Fischer, Sarat like both James Madison guys,
• 27:07
  pawns, James Madison guy like 3rd star players, mid major
• 27:13
  players just three years ago. And dude, in the introductory
• 27:15
  press conference, just like, Google me bro.
• 27:18
  I'll, I'll win, I'll win. Yeah, and then his first, he
• 27:21
  comes out at the halftime of the basketball game after he's
• 27:24
  introduced as head coach and just goes on a thing of Purdue
• 27:27
  sucks, Michigan sucks and Ohio State sucks.
• 27:30
  Look at it. I mean, he's a maniac and.
• 27:33
  He talked his talk and he backed it up 100% I.
• 27:36
  Mean you have to be a little bit of a maniac to be a really good
• 27:39
  coach. You have to.
• 27:41
  And he clearly is that. And how much did you love the
• 27:44
  third down call where they just give it to Mendoza, let him make
• 27:48
  the throw down the field and just, yeah, put that game on
• 27:51
  ice? Yeah, I mean it.
• 27:53
  I mean a lot of coaches that are in there, I feel like you just
• 27:58
  play conservative a little bit. Your defence has been great the
• 28:00
  whole game. I mean, play to win the game.
• 28:03
  That's what Herman said. Play to win the game.
• 28:05
  I. Love it, I love it.
• 28:08
  Yeah, I mean, Mendoza, he was good 21 to 28 or something like
• 28:14
  that. I think for 250 touchdown.
• 28:17
  The one pick that he threw was just kind of a busted play on
• 28:20
  that screen. Just was weird.
• 28:22
  But I don't know. He did enough to win.
• 28:25
  He made the winning plays. He made the winning throws
• 28:27
  through the back, the back shoulder fade to Sarat for the
• 28:30
  only touchdown that they scored that game and that was enough
• 28:33
  defense. It was defense.
• 28:34
  Is the story like they got happening?
• 28:36
  We've talked about that a lot this year.
• 28:38
  We did. Everybody talks about their
• 28:41
  offense and everybody talks about Ohio State's defense.
• 28:45
  And we've talked out, yeah, it's not as good as Ohio State's
• 28:49
  defense, but they have one of the best defenses in the
• 28:51
  country. And they put pressure on saying
• 28:55
  all night, and yeah, when you win 13 to 10, your your defense
• 29:00
  is going to be the story of the game.
• 29:02
  But I don't know that that defense that hasn't got enough
• 29:05
  credit all year. And I think it's impossible not
• 29:09
  to give them credit now. Yeah, I mean, they held Ohio
• 29:11
  State to just 58 yards rushing. Let's see how many sacks they
• 29:14
  had in this game. They had five sacks as a team
• 29:18
  forced to the interception. I mean, they, they got after,
• 29:22
  they got after saying they, they put pressure on them and that's,
• 29:25
  that's what won it. Yeah, 13 to 10.
• 29:29
  I mean, I think the over under was like 44, which I thought was
• 29:34
  kind of high with both those defenses.
• 29:36
  I don't want a lot of bets but I I got that one home.
• 29:39
  And I think with Mendoza getting this thing across the finish
• 29:42
  line, 12 and O 13 and O Big 10 champion beat saying think he's
• 29:48
  the heavy, overwhelming favorite to win the Heisman Trophy.
• 29:51
  And what do you think? Oh, he's going to win.
• 29:53
  He's going to. Win.
• 29:54
  Nobody's going to touch him, right?
• 29:55
  He announced the field earlier today.
• 29:56
  It's it's Mendoza insane. And then Jeremiah Love and Diego
• 30:01
  Pavia. A guy Rodriguez got snubbed from
• 30:03
  Texas Tech. He got snubbed, he got snubbed.
• 30:06
  But I mean, dude, that team, that team can win it all.
• 30:09
  Yeah, they absolutely could. And I mean, we've talked about
• 30:13
  them a little bit, but we talked started talking about them late
• 30:15
  in the year. And also, like, I, I haven't
• 30:17
  watched much of them, maybe a game.
• 30:18
  They're here and there. But like, I don't know a lot
• 30:20
  about them except for Rodriguez, Rodriguez, Rodriguez.
• 30:24
  Yeah, I mean, they put a lot of money into that team.
• 30:28
  They sure did. A lot of money in that team and
• 30:30
  doesn't always work when when you know you're spending that
• 30:34
  kind of the big bucks and got to mold, mold everything together.
• 30:37
  But that team's tough. And that's a good BYU team that
• 30:43
  went straight down the field that first drive.
• 30:45
  And then Texas Tech made adjustments and they could not
• 30:47
  do anything the rest of the game.
• 30:49
  But you know, to get back to Signetti, we we were talking
• 30:52
  about off air a little bit like is there anything even
• 30:57
  comparable to this in in college?
• 30:59
  Basketball, not, not the success that he's had with the program
• 31:04
  that you basically had to start over with.
• 31:07
  You know when when Tom Allen left a couple years ago, they
• 31:11
  won what, two games, three games the season before Signetti got
• 31:15
  there. So he starts fresh, brings in
• 31:17
  basically a whole new roster, and in two years builds them up
• 31:20
  to the number one seed, the Big 10 champion and number one seed
• 31:22
  in the College Football Playoffs.
• 31:23
  So. There's nothing.
• 31:25
  There's nothing that's close to it to where you could have
• 31:27
  success that quickly. And the only example that I
• 31:30
  thought about and I told you this was Scott Druitt Baylor in
• 31:33
  the mess that he took over when, you know, Baylor basketball was
• 31:37
  coming off one player murdering another player in the head coach
• 31:40
  was covering it up and they had to cancel all their non
• 31:43
  conference game. They basically played 1/2 a
• 31:44
  season of basketball and it was just a complete mess at Baylor.
• 31:48
  And Scott Drew is taking that program to a national
• 31:52
  championship and and a perennial usually a ranked team.
• 31:56
  So I mean, it was a long term, it was a long term plan that
• 31:59
  that ended up working. But no, nothing comparable to
• 32:01
  something this quickly. Well to be fair, not many
• 32:04
  coaches have came in and had to recover their program from a
• 32:07
  murder scandal. Yeah, took him like 6-7 years to
• 32:12
  get to the Elite 8. But I mean, still, no, I, I
• 32:15
  agree with you that just the job that he did there was was
• 32:19
  remarkable. What Kelvin Sampson has done it
• 32:21
  as Houston I think is it's not the same thing, but it's it's
• 32:25
  been impressive. They had some history though, in
• 32:29
  the early 80s of being one of the better teams in the country.
• 32:36
  If you use a recent example and it's not comparable because IE
• 32:41
  football has been bad for so long, never losing his team in
• 32:44
  basically college football history.
• 32:45
  But look at the job Pat Kelsey's done in two years at Louisville.
• 32:49
  I mean, that's a quick you talk about a quick turn around like
• 32:51
  Signeti had Pat Kelsey came in. But basically, after the two
• 32:55
  years of a four win season and an 8 win season and a brand new
• 33:00
  roster that he had to construct and put together for the portal,
• 33:03
  you know, in year 1, he goes to the NCAA tournament and wins,
• 33:08
  you know, 20 however many games. And then this year he's you
• 33:11
  know, he's right in the top 10. So depending on where this is,
• 33:14
  if the season finishes out like fans hope it does with the Fauna
• 33:18
  4 potential national championship, I mean that's
• 33:21
  that's kind of all on the same path.
• 33:24
  Yeah. I mean, but you're also talking
• 33:25
  about a program that's probably top five program all time
• 33:29
  tradition wise and has won three national titles.
• 33:33
  Yes. I mean, it's just, that's why,
• 33:36
  yeah, that's why this is impossible.
• 33:38
  Yeah, even like, you know, Brad Stevens at Butler getting the
• 33:42
  back-to-back championship games, they at least had a little bit
• 33:45
  of history. I mean, some people talk about
• 33:48
  the job Lou Dolson did at Arizona when he first talked to
• 33:51
  took the job. He got them rolling pretty quick
• 33:54
  and turned them into a powerhouse little bit before our
• 33:58
  time when he when he took over the reins at Arizona.
• 34:02
  So maybe need to look into that a little more.
• 34:04
  But it's just, it's it's unparalleled.
• 34:07
  It's absolutely unparalleled. And no Indiana fan in their
• 34:13
  wildest dreams would ever be like, we're going to make the
• 34:16
  playoff in Year 1 and in year 2 we're going to be the number one
• 34:19
  overall seed 13 and O and Big 10 champs.
• 34:23
  Nobody. And if anybody did say that,
• 34:27
  you'd be a maniac. And the only maniac that was
• 34:30
  saying it was your head coach and he made it happen.
• 34:32
  That's a that's a true story. That's just a true story.
• 34:35
  So, Oregon, James Madison, do we even need to debate it?
• 34:40
  Oregon's going to win, right? Oregon's going to crush him.
• 34:42
  You got Alabama, Oklahoma. It's at in Norman, OK, Just beat
• 34:47
  Alabama in Alabama. I mean, I guess I got to give
• 34:51
  the edge to the Sooners, small edge to the Sooners.
• 34:54
  I don't know who's favored in that game, but I'm guarantee you
• 34:56
  that. I think it's like a one point
• 34:58
  spread. Yeah, it's got to be close.
• 34:59
  I think that'll be a great game. But with it being in in Norman,
• 35:04
  in the way the Alabama looked on Saturday, I think maybe
• 35:08
  Oklahoma, they have an extra week.
• 35:10
  They have that extra week to rest up as well.
• 35:14
  Yeah, I think it's going to be a really good game.
• 35:16
  I think it was going to be really low scoring.
• 35:18
  Neither one of these offenses look great right now.
• 35:24
  Oklahoma got turnovers in that first game to really kind of
• 35:27
  propel them to to the wind. I don't know, I I think I would
• 35:30
  lean Bama just because they're Bama.
• 35:32
  Oklahoma is a 1 1/2 point favorite.
• 35:34
  It's basically a pickle, yeah. Oregon's Oregon's 21 point
• 35:37
  favorite thanks to James Madison being in the field.
• 35:40
  That game is on December 20th at 7:30.
• 35:43
  The Alabama, Oklahoma game will be the the Friday night game at
• 35:46
  8:00. And then you got Tulane at Ole
• 35:48
  Miss. That is the 330 game on
• 35:51
  Saturday. I mean they already showed what
• 35:54
  they can do and like move these games.
• 35:57
  Why are we watching rematches? 2 rematches in the first four
• 36:01
  games. I mean, I don't I, I think Ole
• 36:03
  Miss wins that game, but I think it's closer than people might
• 36:06
  think. I mean, is there, is there going
• 36:08
  to be any kind of adjustment without having Lane Kiffin on
• 36:10
  your sideline? Like with all the distraction in
• 36:13
  the circus that went on, you know, for the last two to three
• 36:16
  weeks, Like maybe it by then it'll be in, in in two weeks
• 36:20
  when they when they end up playing, it'll be that that'll
• 36:22
  all be in the past and everybody's moved on.
• 36:24
  But I don't know without having your head coach, it's been there
• 36:27
  for all 1212 of your games. Like is there an adjustment and?
• 36:33
  I don't know you like. Close, Closer than you think I.
• 36:36
  Mean that game is a their 17 1/2 point favourites.
• 36:39
  They've already beat them by 35. Just flip Ole Miss and A&M so we
• 36:43
  don't have to watch this rematch.
• 36:47
  Like A&M is undefeated the whole year until they lose the Texas
• 36:51
  in a rivalry game and they move all the way down to 7.
• 36:54
  Because it didn't play anybody. I know and then you get the the
• 37:00
  nooner on Saturday is Miami at ANMANM is 4 point favorite.
• 37:06
  I'm taking Miami and. Now I knew you would.
• 37:09
  I don't trust Carson Beck. I hear you, but I don't know.
• 37:14
  I think Miami, they're playing really good football at the end,
• 37:18
  at the end of the year, ever since that Louisville and SMU,
• 37:21
  Boston, you know, they've already proven they can beat
• 37:24
  good teams. They beat Notre Dame.
• 37:27
  A&M struggled with a couple of games that you know, at the end
• 37:30
  of the year with Texas. And like I said that will they
• 37:32
  come back 30 to from 30 to nothing.
• 37:35
  It's the bad South Carolina team.
• 37:37
  So they might be a little overrated.
• 37:39
  And I think Miami can go in there and and take care of
• 37:43
  business, especially an afternoon game.
• 37:45
  I think noon helps Miami's 'cause.
• 37:49
  I, I just also think that's a tough place to play and that
• 37:52
  gives A&M such an advantage, you know, being A&M playing on their
• 37:57
  home field. I'm, I'm taking Marcel Reed and,
• 38:00
  and the Aggies. I also really like Elko.
• 38:03
  I trust him more than Crystal Ball 100%.
• 38:05
  You're an ACC. ACC Do.
• 38:08
  You want to close these brackets out, so you then you've got
• 38:10
  Oregon at Texas Tech in the in the Orange Bowl.
• 38:14
  It's a long way to go for the Oregon Ducks.
• 38:17
  I know Oregon's good, and I know Texas Tech is really good.
• 38:21
  I just don't I didn't watch much of Texas Tech.
• 38:24
  I did watch I watched more of Oregon than I had at Texas Tech.
• 38:28
  Both Oregon coordinators are leaving.
• 38:31
  I mean, they're probably distracted with trying to set up
• 38:33
  their new jobs and get their players on their new team.
• 38:36
  So give me Texas Tech. Just be simple fact of Oregon's
• 38:39
  going so far and they're. Yeah, I'm, I'm going to.
• 38:43
  Texas are both leaving and I don't know, I think they might
• 38:46
  be a little distracted. I'm going to check in that one.
• 38:47
  I, I really think they can win it all and then I don't care who
• 38:52
  if it's Alabama or Oklahoma, I'm not picking against the
• 38:54
  Hoosiers, which how crazy is that?
• 38:56
  You've got 2 blue bloods and Bama and Oklahoma coming into
• 39:00
  play. Indiana, but.
• 39:02
  Not coming in to play Indiana. We're going to the Rose Bowl to
• 39:05
  play Indiana. I mean, coming in like they had
• 39:07
  to win. A game to play.
• 39:10
  But yeah, I mean, yeah, I think I ain't picking against the
• 39:14
  Hoosiers till I see them get beat.
• 39:15
  And so then you got a Georgia Ole Miss rematch.
• 39:19
  Georgia. Yeah, without Lane Kiffin, I'm
• 39:22
  definitely going Georgia in that one.
• 39:24
  And then I mean, I don't think Miami or A&M can beat Ohio
• 39:27
  State. So then you got Tech in Indiana
• 39:30
  and you got Georgia and Ohio State.
• 39:31
  So we did all the 4-5 to 12 for nothing because we got the top 4
• 39:36
  seeds in the Final Four. Hey those semi final games are
• 39:40
  going to be awesome. They're supposed to be, right?
• 39:45
  Well and that's why they fixed this last year because the 1st 4
• 39:48
  seeds all got beat when they were conference champions.
• 39:52
  I think if there's a team that's going to give IU, and like I
• 39:56
  said, I don't know much about it, but for some reason I just
• 39:58
  feel like Texas Tech would be a huge challenge.
• 40:01
  If there's a team that's going to beat IU, I think it would be
• 40:03
  them. If they can give IU can get
• 40:05
  through Texas Tech, I think they can win the entire thing.
• 40:07
  Yeah, I mean, do do you think Georgia can beat Ohio State?
• 40:10
  I mean, the way they played on Saturday against Bama, they're
• 40:13
  clicking. They're playing their best
• 40:14
  football. I'm still taking Ohio State.
• 40:17
  I, I, yeah, I, I think I would, I mean, I, I think you're going
• 40:21
  to see a rematch of the, the Big 10 championship in the national
• 40:25
  championship game. I mean, yeah, it's like it's
• 40:27
  just amplified by 100, the fact Indiana's playing Ohio State for
• 40:33
  a Big 10 championship and it's like the biggest thing ever.
• 40:35
  And then if they can do it a month later for the for the
• 40:38
  whole chip, I mean, it's not even real life.
• 40:40
  So if Ohio State beats them in the national title, do we get to
• 40:42
  have Game 3? No, I don't think it's the way
• 40:45
  it works, dude. It should.
• 40:48
  I don't think it's the way it works, but yeah, I don't know,
• 40:51
  let's it's it's going to be fun to see Indiana try to win the
• 40:55
  thing. But you're right if if
• 40:58
  everything plays out those semi final games are pretty Dang
• 41:01
  good. Really good.
• 41:02
  And they should be. Yes.
• 41:04
  And maybe we just skip all this and go back to the way it used
• 41:07
  to be, because that's what we would have got.
• 41:09
  If you just go to four teams, that's just what you get.
• 41:13
  Yeah. I mean, everybody wanted 12,
• 41:15
  everybody wanted 12. But you didn't get.
• 41:16
  Lane and James Madison in here and get waxed by 40.
• 41:20
  I just think somewhere along the way, somebody's probably going
• 41:22
  to pull an upset. I mean, you look at last year's
• 41:23
  national title game between Ohio State Notre Dame and both Ohio
• 41:26
  State Notre Dame played in the first round.
• 41:28
  They both hosted playoff games in the first round and.
• 41:31
  All teams that got by is lost. Yeah, all four.
• 41:34
  Yeah. Well, that was before
• 41:36
  conference. That was back when conference
• 41:37
  champions automatically got a buy and we all agreed that they
• 41:40
  probably shouldn't. Right.
• 41:41
  But how, how do we get this? How do we get this wrong?
• 41:44
  How hard is it to make a 12 team tournament?
• 41:48
  Like how do we, we're going to make more changes again next
• 41:50
  year to keep this from happening?
• 41:52
  Yeah, we just, they keep getting things wrong.
• 41:55
  Like it shouldn't be that hard. Didn't you?
• 41:58
  Didn't you fix it? I mean I do agree 11 team should
• 42:02
  be able to get in. That's not a power 4, but having
• 42:07
  2 of 12, it's too many. OK, 17%.
• 42:13
  I had to do the math on my calculator. 17% of the teams are
• 42:17
  delayed and James Madison that have no chance to win at all.
• 42:21
  None, zero. They cannot win they if they if
• 42:25
  they can't win one game. I really hope James Madison goes
• 42:28
  to Eugene and wins and this just shuts you up.
• 42:31
  But even if that happens, they're not going to win the
• 42:33
  whole. Thing don't sleep on Tulane.
• 42:34
  I'm not convinced Tulane can't win it.
• 42:36
  Ole Miss. They lost to UTSA, you just
• 42:38
  cussed them out on your own 15 minutes.
• 42:41
  Ago I did. You're right.
• 42:44
  I don't know. I just, I'm not sold on all
• 42:46
  mitts. Well, they are there.
• 42:48
  Anytime you lose your coach, you don't know what's going to
• 42:50
  happen. But they who did they struggle
• 42:52
  with earlier in the year that that wasn't a great team.
• 42:54
  They beat him by like 3 at home. I mean, people are teams are
• 42:58
  allowed to struggle. No, they're not.
• 43:01
  No, they're not OK, as long as you figure out a way to win.
• 43:05
  They're not allowed to struggle. Let's see, who's the Ole Miss?
• 43:10
  They had a a terrible team. They barely beat Washington
• 43:16
  State. They beat Washington State at
• 43:17
  home by three. They beat a bad Arkansas team by
• 43:21
  only 6. Well, that's James Madison's
• 43:24
  best win. They beat Washington State by 4.
• 43:26
  They don't play. I guess they belong in.
• 43:28
  Now put them in. James Madison's not playing Ole
• 43:33
  Miss, though. Tulaneous.
• 43:35
  Put them in. I hope, I really hope one of
• 43:37
  those teams wins and we I just get to get back on here and cuss
• 43:40
  you out. Did you do see what I'm saying?
• 43:42
  I see what you're saying. So what you do is you go to 16
• 43:45
  teams and that shuts everybody up.
• 43:47
  It does. It's fine.
• 43:49
  It fixed it. 12 is fine. All you have to do is have Miami
• 43:53
  the ACC championship game, they beat Virginia, there's the
• 43:57
  tournament. Pick who you want in your
• 43:59
  championship game though is the how it works.
• 44:01
  You can't just and pick teams. But there's a five way Tiger
• 44:04
  missioner mix. Huh.
• 44:06
  If there's a five way tie, commissioner picks.
• 44:09
  So like, let's say like, all right, So then like, let's say
• 44:12
  A-Team like. It would solve all this.
• 44:14
  So let's say like a team like North Carolina loses all four of
• 44:16
  their non conference games. They, they, it, it may be two of
• 44:20
  them are to some really crappy team.
• 44:21
  They, they lose all four non conference games, but they run
• 44:24
  the table in the ACC. You got to tell them you can't
• 44:26
  play for your conference championship even though you won
• 44:29
  every ACC game because you lost four other games that were crap
• 44:34
  like. Well, OK, here's here's what I'm
• 44:36
  going to say. Why do we need conference
• 44:39
  championship games? Well, for some teams, there was
• 44:41
  a chance to get into the College Football Playoff like the BYU's
• 44:44
  of the world. What should it be?
• 44:45
  A chance to knock you out. But it is.
• 44:48
  Who did it knock out? It didn't this year, but I mean
• 44:52
  I. Mean there's too much.
• 44:53
  BYU's going to fall 3 spots. How does Alabama not fall at
• 44:56
  all? I don't disagree because they
• 45:00
  weren't ever going to keep Bama out and the only other place you
• 45:02
  could drop them, but the only place you were going to drop
• 45:04
  them was one spot to #10 because that's the last possible you
• 45:09
  could even get. Which is why everybody's so
• 45:11
  shocked that Notre Dame is left out.
• 45:13
  And you're not going to put Miami ahead of Alabama, but then
• 45:16
  you're also not going to put Notre Dame ahead of Miami at the
• 45:18
  end of the day either. So I don't suit it.
• 45:20
  Go to 16 teams. Do what?
• 45:22
  Just go to 16 teams. I don't think it solves it.
• 45:25
  You still could have the same issue.
• 45:27
  But you're not going to have the same issue because you're going
• 45:29
  to get those Texas's and the Notre Dames in into the playoff
• 45:34
  with 16 teams. And at the end of then you're
• 45:36
  going to start debating, like I said, you're going to debate
• 45:38
  Illinois and Virginia and nobody cares.
• 45:40
  It's. Always going to be a debate.
• 45:43
  Yeah, but it's not going to be the Notre Dame's that are going
• 45:46
  to get debated. Notre Dame's going to be in.
• 45:47
  And if Notre Dame's sitting there at 17th in the College
• 45:50
  Football Playoff, he's with three losses, then like I knew
• 45:52
  we. Were going to talk college
• 45:53
  football for a long time. I didn't know we'd go almost an
• 45:55
  hour and still not be done. But another thing is Notre
• 45:59
  Dame's 80 is pissed at the ACCI. Saw that also join the
• 46:04
  conference. Do they, I mean, they show you
• 46:08
  know how many times the ACC Network showed Miami's win over
• 46:12
  Notre Dame in like, the last week?
• 46:14
  As they should as a. Like 10 times.
• 46:17
  Do you, do you disagree with it like as as a conference, don't
• 46:21
  you want to advocate for your member to get into the College
• 46:24
  Football Playoff? Also, Notre Dame, you're not a
• 46:26
  member of the ACC in football. Exactly.
• 46:28
  So that's why I don't understand his anger.
• 46:30
  He's mad about it because I mean, yes, they they, they are a
• 46:33
  good ACC partner in 22 other sports, but when you're not a
• 46:36
  member in football, you can't get mad at the conference for
• 46:38
  advocating for their own schools.
• 46:41
  An actual member? What?
• 46:42
  Like, what does he want Jim Phillips to do?
• 46:43
  Like, hey Miami, they don't put put Notre Dame in.
• 46:48
  Yeah, I. I mean, take that off the, take
• 46:51
  that off the network. Yeah, to me is it's I, I get
• 46:56
  his, I get the, the fresh. Sour grapes and them not playing
• 46:58
  in the the bowl game. Sour grapes.
• 47:00
  I get the frustration and I I understand the frustration, but
• 47:04
  it's not the AC CS fault. Notre Dame's not it.
• 47:07
  Oh I I mean I 100% understand it.
• 47:09
  You were ahead of them the whole time.
• 47:10
  You're 8 spots ahead of them what, a little over a month ago?
• 47:15
  And then you do what you're supposed to do over four games
• 47:19
  and sit at home and you lose spot while both of y'all are at
• 47:24
  home eating bonbons. I mean, Notre Dame, if you want
• 47:26
  to be in the College Football Playoff, you beat Miami.
• 47:28
  You want to be in the College Football Playoff.
• 47:30
  You beat Texas A&M on your home field.
• 47:33
  They're going to. They're going to go back to the
• 47:34
  holding call against A&M, too. That's where you should be mad
• 47:37
  about, right? That's where that's where you
• 47:39
  should get mad. Right.
• 47:40
  Yeah, but I don't know we could talk about this for a for a long
• 47:44
  time. Let's move on.
• 47:45
  Do we need to get to the NFLA little bit, yes.
• 47:49
  I guess we'll start with the Bengals.
• 47:50
  Just get it over with. It was so good for the first.
• 47:53
  Yeah, you started off. Just give me your thoughts.
• 47:56
  I mean, I love what I saw. I love, first of all, love snow
• 47:58
  games. Reminisce of Buffalo when we
• 48:01
  beat him in the divisional round of the playoff.
• 48:04
  Was that two 2-3 years ago? What, 22, two, yeah, 2320, I
• 48:12
  don't know, 23, But anyways, Angles came out, they took the
• 48:16
  ball, they said we want the ball and they went down and just
• 48:20
  shoved the right down Buffalo's throat, right down the field.
• 48:22
  Touchdown, second possession, touchdown.
• 48:25
  And then was it the third possession, another touchdown or
• 48:27
  was it the fourth one? Yeah, like jumped out, jumped on
• 48:31
  them early. Joe Burrow look like healthy,
• 48:35
  good MVP candidate. Joe Burrow.
• 48:38
  T Higgins was looking like T Higgins.
• 48:40
  You know the offense was clicking, the offensive line
• 48:42
  looked great defense. First half is hit and miss.
• 48:50
  They made some good plays, got a couple sides.
• 48:52
  Stops on 4th down. Yeah, can get stops on 4th down
• 48:55
  and in the second-half the wheels kind of not even the
• 48:58
  second-half, the fourth quarter, the fourth quarter, you're up by
• 49:01
  10 with 7 1/2 to go. You need to win the game and the
• 49:07
  defense didn't get stops. Joe Burrow made a few errors,
• 49:13
  some costly mistakes, the tipped interception and then that
• 49:16
  screen pass, which I don't know what that was.
• 49:18
  If you're just going to throw that, you might as well just run
• 49:20
  the ball since it was on 1st downs and the ball off.
• 49:22
  It was. It was a cauldron.
• 49:25
  It was a cauldron. You audibled out of it.
• 49:28
  Well, it didn't audible. He just was going to run a
• 49:31
  little little flip over. He saw the corner blitzing and
• 49:34
  was going to try to throw it over top of him.
• 49:35
  I don't think he got a good grip of the ball.
• 49:37
  I also think he didn't have great footing so.
• 49:40
  Did Joe say that he did that? Yeah.
• 49:42
  I missed that point. So, yeah.
• 49:43
  So that's on you, Joe. You know, if you're not going to
• 49:45
  run the play, you're going to do your own thing, you better make
• 49:47
  sure it works. And it not only did it not work,
• 49:50
  it worked in seven points in Buffalo's favor.
• 49:52
  And after that, you knew your defense wasn't going to stop
• 49:55
  them. And it was lights.
• 49:56
  Out well and we give Zach Taylor a lot of lot of great for a lot
• 50:02
  of it. Most of it is deserved.
• 50:04
  But you're driving by kicking in that weather.
• 50:07
  You don't onside kick and you think that you're deep.
• 50:09
  I agree with you, I. Agree you're.
• 50:12
  You also have the lead with 5 minutes to go where you're
• 50:16
  milking the clock and you call a run play and you're thinking,
• 50:20
  worst thing that could happen here is we lose a couple yards.
• 50:24
  And instead your quarterback tries to throw a little out to
• 50:28
  quick out to Jamar Chase over top of a blitzing corner and
• 50:33
  they're going the other way to score, which is the tough beat.
• 50:37
  And look, they, they, you put all the trust in Joe Burrow to
• 50:40
  make any decision that he wants to make under center because
• 50:45
  he's he's earned that. But just eat that.
• 50:49
  Even if even if you're going to run it or pass it and you see
• 50:53
  that corner coming, just eat it. Just take the sack.
• 50:56
  Let's go to second down. Or hand the ball off run.
• 50:59
  Like or just hand it off or just.
• 51:01
  Hand it off what you're supposed to do and like you said, the
• 51:02
  worst thing that happens is you lose 2 yards, the clock runs and
• 51:05
  you live to play second and 12. I mean, you were getting to the
• 51:08
  point where the clock was a factor.
• 51:11
  Yeah, if you would have got a first, another first down there,
• 51:13
  Buffalo's going to start calling some time outs.
• 51:14
  You don't even need to score again, like right, It's to where
• 51:17
  you can put the game away. Yes.
• 51:20
  And yeah, you're right. The next the next possession,
• 51:24
  you're like, oh, Joe's going to be mad.
• 51:25
  And you tip pass go straight into these.
• 51:27
  Defenders down the ward like his eyes were just staring at the
• 51:30
  receiver so the the defensive lineman just put his hands up
• 51:34
  because he saw Joe Burrow basically staring right at him
• 51:36
  and Joe just threw it right at him.
• 51:37
  It was a bad throw. Hey, and then they get the ball
• 51:42
  back, they go straight down the field, T Higgins gets pass
• 51:44
  interference in the end zone, makes an unbelievable one handed
• 51:47
  catch even call Pi which is just wild.
• 51:51
  And he's out there with a concussion like he's back in
• 51:54
  concussion protocol today. We all saw it on TV pointing to
• 51:58
  his head multiple times. He did not look right.
• 52:01
  He looked off like he looked like he something was was wrong.
• 52:05
  And they continue to throw him out there and we all, and we all
• 52:08
  sit there at tailgaters and we're like, there's no way you
• 52:11
  can put him back in this game. And he comes back out.
• 52:14
  I mean, he talked about it post game.
• 52:16
  He's he's he, he used this word. I didn't.
• 52:19
  I'm a soldier. And I mean that one of the best
• 52:23
  catches I've ever seen with one hand.
• 52:25
  And he didn't catch it with one hand because that was a way to
• 52:27
  do it. He only had one hand.
• 52:28
  He's. Looking sideways out of his face
• 52:30
  mask and he's one hand. Catch it and and then like you
• 52:35
  said, at that point you do, you got to go on side kick in the
• 52:38
  snow because you never know what kind of bounce you're going to
• 52:40
  get. And with the defense that you
• 52:42
  have, you cannot trust them to get the stop.
• 52:44
  And what happened? Was it third and 16?
• 52:47
  15 and you're going to get the ball back with plenty of time.
• 52:52
  Yeah. I mean, after we had already
• 52:55
  seen Josh on have a 40 yard run for a touchdown.
• 52:57
  I mean, it wasn't even difficult 15 yard pick up.
• 53:02
  It wasn't even like there was nothing.
• 53:05
  Now I will say some of the throws that he made that that
• 53:09
  touchdown to Shakira on 4th down where Demetrius Knight was right
• 53:13
  behind him. I mean, you there's angles of
• 53:15
  that throw. It's just an incredible play.
• 53:20
  But bottom line is the Bengals defense is who we knew they were
• 53:26
  all season long. Buffalo did not punt yesterday.
• 53:30
  Did not punt. When you can't push the other
• 53:32
  team to punt, you were not going to win the game.
• 53:35
  And I mean Joe sounded pretty dejected in in his post game.
• 53:40
  Well, it ended your season. Yeah, I mean, there's still
• 53:43
  you're, if you're playing Break the Ice, you, you've got like
• 53:47
  one cube left in the game, like it's almost over.
• 53:52
  Please tell me you played Break the Ice.
• 53:54
  I did, yes. OK.
• 53:57
  The Bengals scored 33 points again.
• 53:59
  They scored 34 in this game in the last two years.
• 54:03
  They're now four and seven when scoring 33 points or more.
• 54:06
  The rest of the NFL is 136 and 10 and two.
• 54:10
  Entering Sunday, they were 16 and one when up by 10 plus at
• 54:14
  half with with Zach Taylor's their head coach.
• 54:17
  They are now 16 and two and both of those losses have came this
• 54:20
  year as the other one was against The Jets.
• 54:24
  You just win those two games and you're right there.
• 54:28
  You're right there. You're you're playing in the
• 54:29
  worst division in football. Oh, and it's.
• 54:32
  And it's that even close? Yeah.
• 54:34
  And you still can't. Which?
• 54:35
  Is just wild to say, right? Yeah, I mean, over the last five
• 54:39
  years it's probably been the best.
• 54:42
  But I don't know. I don't know who's good in the
• 54:44
  NFL. I mean, we, we've talked about
• 54:45
  the Bengals and you know, my thoughts of we just need to fire
• 54:48
  everybody, Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor and especially Al Golden.
• 54:52
  Maybe just hire GM? Like hire a real actual GM that
• 54:55
  can that is allowed to make his own decisions.
• 54:58
  Well, that requires ownership to give up some control.
• 55:01
  And you know how that that that goes in Cincinnati.
• 55:03
  But who who is who's good in the NFLI?
• 55:07
  Mean you keep beating on the Rams drum, which I get, but they
• 55:10
  just lost to the Panthers last week.
• 55:12
  I keep beating on the Seahawks drum.
• 55:14
  They won 37 to 9 yesterday. I mean, are those the two best
• 55:18
  teams in the NFL? Man, Patriots.
• 55:22
  Yeah, Matt, maybe, Yeah. Like I if like the only 211 and
• 55:28
  two teams in football are the Patriots and the Broncos and.
• 55:32
  I'm still not sold on the Bronco.
• 55:34
  If you're making me pick between the Patriots and the Broncos,
• 55:38
  yeah, I'm 100% going. Patriots I trust.
• 55:41
  Drake made way more. Than I trust you think either
• 55:43
  one of those teams are better than the Rams or Seahawks.
• 55:47
  No. And is that me being hard
• 55:49
  headed? Like I'm, I'm not going to lie
• 55:52
  in my head like I still think the bills, I still think the
• 55:55
  Chiefs, like you know what, I I still think the Ravens a little
• 56:02
  bit, but not after watching in the last two weeks.
• 56:05
  Lamar is not Lamar. No, the Ravens are.
• 56:07
  The Ravens are not a good football team.
• 56:10
  The Chiefs are not a good football team.
• 56:12
  No like. Chargers might be a good
• 56:15
  football team. What are they doing right now?
• 56:16
  They're up 5:50. Are you watching?
• 56:19
  Are you going to go back and watch The Monsters Inc Monday
• 56:22
  Night Football Chargers Eagles game tonight?
• 56:25
  I don't know, but that was the beginning of the Bengals run
• 56:27
  last year when we had The Simpsons Monday Night Football
• 56:29
  game. That was fun.
• 56:30
  We didn't lose the game after that.
• 56:31
  I know that was fun. I mean, the wives look good on
• 56:35
  Thursday night. I don't know.
• 56:38
  The Colts are done. Daniel Jones season culture.
• 56:42
  Toast. They're cooked right.
• 56:43
  They just worked out. Philip Rivers.
• 56:45
  They won't maybe make the playoffs at this point.
• 56:47
  Now they just worked out. Philip Rivers you didn't.
• 56:50
  You didn't laugh the first time. I had to say it twice.
• 56:53
  Philip Rivers. He hasn't played since 20.
• 56:56
  One well, he's got 15 kids. You might need to come back and
• 56:59
  get another NFL paycheck. He needs to feed up, feed an
• 57:02
  entire army over there. Philip Rivers, maybe you still
• 57:05
  got it, the old gunslinger. I mean, wouldn't you be better
• 57:09
  off going to get Andrew Luck? See if Peyton Manning wants to
• 57:12
  come. Back I mean, I like I I had to
• 57:15
  refresh it. Did I read this right?
• 57:18
  Philip Rivers. I mean, what's so Jones is out
• 57:22
  for the year Leonard hurt himself?
• 57:26
  Where's what's his name? Richardson's out.
• 57:29
  With what? He's aren't injured too good.
• 57:31
  Lord, yeah, if if that if the trade to deadline hadn't passed,
• 57:34
  they could have Joe Flacco back. We'd talk to him for 1/4
• 57:37
  rounder. 4th Rounder, would we give up?
• 57:40
  We gave up like 1/6 or 1/7. So you're turning that into a
• 57:43
  fourth? They're desperate.
• 57:44
  They're a playoff team. They're a playoff team.
• 57:46
  They need a quarterback. They're they?
• 57:48
  Reside him as Joe as the real Joe's backup next year.
• 57:53
  The Buccaneers lose to the Saints.
• 57:55
  Dude who Like who is good? Have we ever been this late in
• 57:59
  the season and we don't know who's good?
• 58:01
  Or are we just being hard headed and not just looking at reality
• 58:06
  and being like, you know what, the Patriots and the Broncos are
• 58:09
  good at football. I don't think the Broncos are
• 58:11
  good at football. Their record says otherwise.
• 58:13
  But I, I, I just, I'm not a believer.
• 58:16
  I I am a little I am coming around on the Patriots think
• 58:20
  that they're. Had them, could have beat them
• 58:22
  with Joe. Flacco I know we could have,
• 58:25
  yeah. If Joe Burrow plays in that
• 58:26
  Patriots game, I think we do actually probably win that game.
• 58:28
  I don't know. I really don't.
• 58:30
  I think the rant. The Eagles.
• 58:32
  Are good. The Rams are good.
• 58:33
  The Seahawks are good. Are the Packers good again?
• 58:35
  Maybe. Like they beat the bears, but
• 58:37
  who knows are the bears are good I.
• 58:39
  Don't think the bears are good? I mean, I just.
• 58:43
  It's crazy. I guess we'll do a ranking at
• 58:50
  some point, but we ain't doing that today.
• 58:51
  We're already too deep in the weeds.
• 58:55
  What else we say we need to talk about LeBron and I.
• 58:59
  I'm an MJ over LeBron guy all but just just because.
• 59:05
  But last week, Lebron's NBA record run of 1297 consecutive
• 59:14
  games with at least 10 points ended with when they within a
• 59:20
  win at Toronto. The street started on January
• 59:27
  the 6th. 2007 lasted almost 2 decades.
• 59:33
  The second longest streak is Michael Jordan with 866.
• 59:37
  Kareem had 787 and Karl Malone had the fourth longest run at
• 59:43
  575. His like it's almost, it's not
• 59:48
  quite three times, but it's almost three times as long.
• 59:50
  That's insane. Karl Malone Streak.
• 59:53
  That's insane. Like what were you doing in
• 59:56
  2007? Probably studying for finals at
• 59:59
  Indiana University. I mean like what was going on in
• 1:00:06
  O, Seth? Well, let's see, what do you
• 1:00:08
  think the number one song in 2007 was?
• 1:00:11
  What in January of 2007? Is that what it was?
• 1:00:15
  That's when a streak started. January 6th, 2007.
• 1:00:18
  Number one song, January 2007. What do you think it was?
• 1:00:25
  I have no idea, Beyoncé, do you think?
• 1:00:28
  I just keep in my memory the songs.
• 1:00:30
  Beyoncé's Irreplaceable was the top spot for the entire month of
• 1:00:35
  January. Also included in the top five
• 1:00:39
  were Fergie's Fergalicious and Nelly Furtado's Say It Right.
• 1:00:45
  I mean, W was still the president.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah, right. Yeah, it was the end of the.
• 1:00:51
  It was almost the end of the Tubby Smith era at Kentucky.
• 1:00:54
  Like I'm just trying to think like.
• 1:00:57
  No, it's incredible. It's absolutely incredible what
• 1:01:00
  what LeBron had done in his career in that streak.
• 1:01:02
  And I know you're an MJ guy. I'm on LeBron side of of things
• 1:01:09
  but that's a whole another debate for a different time.
• 1:01:11
  Yeah, we don't need to get into that, but I will say how many
• 1:01:14
  NBA Finals did Jordan lose? How many NBA Finals did Braun
• 1:01:17
  take? Just crappy play.
• 1:01:19
  We're not doing this. We're not.
• 1:01:21
  Doing he took he took look at that roster that he took the
• 1:01:24
  Cleveland Cavaliers in his first go.
• 1:01:26
  This is. A summer show when there's
• 1:01:28
  nothing else going on. Fine.
• 1:01:30
  You're just, we're already, we're already hour and 10
• 1:01:32
  minutes into this. You're wrong, but no incredible
• 1:01:36
  by LeBron I mean just never going to be probably replicated.
• 1:01:42
  Oh, it's, I mean, he's a million years old and he's still
• 1:01:46
  hooping. I mean, I, like, Jordan had
• 1:01:49
  already retired and came back and retired again, Like, for
• 1:01:54
  real? Yeah.
• 1:01:55
  I don't. Know I That's the remarkable
• 1:01:59
  part of it all. I wanted to get into this real
• 1:02:03
  quick because did you see the the drunk raccoon at Virginia
• 1:02:07
  Liquor Store? I sure did.
• 1:02:09
  Little buddy had himself a time. So dude just breaks it, knocks
• 1:02:14
  down a time, knocks out a bunch of bottles and just goes in.
• 1:02:22
  And then he's smart enough to be like, I gotta pass out, I'm
• 1:02:26
  going to the bathroom. How about that?
• 1:02:28
  The self-awareness of just knowing where when you're too
• 1:02:32
  drunk, of where you need to get to and you're by the toilet.
• 1:02:35
  Like just the self-awareness to get to the toilet in case
• 1:02:38
  something needs to happen. But man.
• 1:02:41
  Dude is just like on his back butt just straight up just
• 1:02:46
  passed out. Why he should have once he got
• 1:02:49
  gained entry into the liquor store, he should have called all
• 1:02:53
  of his other like forest friends and been like, yo, we're having
• 1:02:56
  a party. Get get over here to the to the
• 1:02:59
  attic hole and get down in here and let's just do some tequila
• 1:03:03
  shots. Bro, I got all the bourbon, it's
• 1:03:06
  all on the floor. That's good.
• 1:03:08
  We could add what's what's the what's the fat squirrel?
• 1:03:12
  What's his name? Fats.
• 1:03:14
  Oh, all you got to do is just saying what?
• 1:03:19
  Was it? We could add Chuck Norris and
• 1:03:22
  Chuck Asaurus Rex and the raccoon and all like the
• 1:03:25
  chipmunks and the squirrels and the and the bunnies and they
• 1:03:28
  could have had themselves a little rave party to keep
• 1:03:30
  watching all of it. I would watch this Disney
• 1:03:33
  cartoon. I mean, it has to if yeah like
• 1:03:36
  that that has a good movie written.
• 1:03:38
  On it and they just throw a rave like it.
• 1:03:40
  Dude, we might have an idea. We yeah, we didn't need a movie.
• 1:03:44
  The raccoon sneaks into a liquor store, knocks all the bottles
• 1:03:46
  down. Brings in all the parties.
• 1:03:48
  I don't think that's going to be a Disney movie.
• 1:03:50
  I think that's more going to be like a Netflix, you know?
• 1:03:52
  Yeah. It'd probably be more like.
• 1:03:54
  A 17 and over type type movie there like APG 13 rated R type
• 1:03:58
  deal. Sausage party esque something.
• 1:04:01
  Like that it would be it would be sausage Party esque.
• 1:04:03
  Yeah, but no Little Buddy, the L and then the liquor store, you
• 1:04:08
  see, that's all this. Earlier tonight, they they
• 1:04:12
  embraced Little Buddy and they came out with three names for
• 1:04:16
  raccoon themed cocktails. OK, we have the Rye Rascal Sour,
• 1:04:23
  the Trash Panda Old Fashioned, and the Midnight Masked Gin
• 1:04:28
  Fizz. Well, I do know.
• 1:04:30
  I do not think raccoons like being called trash pandas.
• 1:04:34
  I think they find that a little derogatory.
• 1:04:36
  Have you spoken to a raccoon about this?
• 1:04:38
  I don't think they think they find that a little bit
• 1:04:40
  derogatory, so I don't think they're going to like the number
• 1:04:44
  2. What's in these things?
• 1:04:46
  Well, I don't know if you go to their website, they do have the
• 1:04:50
  the ingredients or the the recipes posted for.
• 1:04:55
  If you want to make yourself a trash panned Old Fashioned or a
• 1:04:58
  Midnight Masked Gin Fizz or a Rye Rascal Sour, head on over to
• 1:05:03
  the Virginia Alcohol Beverage Control Authority's website and
• 1:05:07
  you can make those from the comfort of your own kitchen and
• 1:05:10
  living room. Yeah, I I bet.
• 1:05:12
  I bet he had a long Sunday too. Recovering.
• 1:05:14
  Yeah, like you think now he's like they they did say they
• 1:05:18
  released him back into the woods or wherever he came from.
• 1:05:21
  You think little Buddy's going to try to get back in?
• 1:05:23
  He's getting back in. He's like, next time, awesome.
• 1:05:26
  Next time, Chunk Asaurus Rex. Yeah, you got to invite.
• 1:05:29
  You got to invite the forest friends the next go round.
• 1:05:32
  I feel like you got. To and the and the Round Mound
• 1:05:34
  of Acorn. All of them are coming.
• 1:05:36
  I don't think the Round Mount's coming.
• 1:05:38
  Definitely not a person. Not a person.
• 1:05:43
  But dude, yeah, he had him a good time.
• 1:05:45
  Good for him. I'm proud of that little guy.
• 1:05:47
  But just you're right, the self-awareness to do play might
• 1:05:50
  have to go to the bathroom. It might have to kind of reminds
• 1:05:55
  me of the juice picture What? So it kind of reminds me of the
• 1:05:58
  juice. So now I have to put that up on
• 1:06:01
  the on the video portion of the pod.
• 1:06:05
  But yeah, hey, I finally got the tree up at the house.
• 1:06:10
  You get the ornaments, the whole, the whole shebang on
• 1:06:12
  there. Yeah, we did after I got back.
• 1:06:15
  You get one of those pre lit trees or you get on a step stool
• 1:06:18
  and wrapping the tree yourself inside.
• 1:06:19
  I don't. Have the hugest tree.
• 1:06:20
  It's probably like a 5-6 foot tree.
• 1:06:23
  That's about double your size. It's.
• 1:06:25
  Close to double, close to double, close to double.
• 1:06:29
  Don't hurt yourself trying to get the star up there now.
• 1:06:31
  We got oh, I don't put a star. Do you know what I put up?
• 1:06:34
  God, sorry some some dumb tradition of yours.
• 1:06:38
  What? What do we got?
• 1:06:40
  It's just a Santa Cincinnati Bengals hat.
• 1:06:42
  I'd burn it. I don't think you see.
• 1:06:46
  I think you should only put that up on certain year.
• 1:06:49
  Like if the Bengals have a winning record, the hat goes on
• 1:06:51
  the tree. The Bengals have a losing
• 1:06:53
  record. It would never be on the tree.
• 1:06:55
  Huh. It would never be on the tree.
• 1:06:57
  It'd be on the tree like 2 years of my life.
• 1:07:00
  Well, that's that's all. It definitely is.
• 1:07:04
  That's what it is to put it up. Don't celebrate the franchise
• 1:07:09
  that is the Cincinnati Bengals. When they don't, they don't
• 1:07:12
  celebrate you, Nick. They don't care about you.
• 1:07:14
  You should not care about. Them I do have like it's broke a
• 1:07:17
  little bit because it's owed, but I do have an ornament with
• 1:07:19
  Carson Palmer, Rudy Johnson and and Chad Chad Johnson.
• 1:07:23
  Peter Rudy. Yeah, since we got so much
• 1:07:29
  feedback for the Thanksgiving food draft, I think we should do
• 1:07:34
  a a Christmas themed. Draft.
• 1:07:35
  Yeah, I'm in for that. Let's do Christmas movies.
• 1:07:39
  I'm in for that. You got the first pick with the
• 1:07:41
  dark Turkey. Yeah.
• 1:07:43
  So I'm going to go first pick. Hey, can you make sure this time
• 1:07:45
  at least you put the graphics on the right side?
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, like. Nope, you screwed up.
• 1:07:50
  Yeah, I will make sure. Thank you.
• 1:07:53
  I was doing all that in the high school gym in the Cayman Islands
• 1:07:58
  with no Wi-Fi whatsoever. There was no chance.
• 1:08:02
  Like I agree that I messed it up, but there was no way I was
• 1:08:05
  re uploading that after sitting in the back of the media room
• 1:08:11
  just watching it go 1%, two percent, 3% for at over an hour.
• 1:08:17
  There was no way I was doing it again.
• 1:08:18
  But yes, team tall team small first pick and like I said I'm I
• 1:08:27
  almost would rather have the second and third pick because
• 1:08:29
  I'm having a hard time picking between 1:00 and 2:00 Christmas
• 1:08:33
  vacation. I mean, it's that that is the
• 1:08:36
  clear cut number one pick that is a great pick.
• 1:08:40
  Christmas vacation is the movie that you can just quote all year
• 1:08:44
  round. Like there's just things from
• 1:08:46
  that movie that you would just say to, to your friends and
• 1:08:48
  relatives in the middle of like July.
• 1:08:52
  But no, a, a classic, always a hilarious movie.
• 1:08:56
  Clark Griswold definitely #1 all right #2 pick for me.
• 1:09:04
  A lot of people don't like this movie, but.
• 1:09:06
  Is this your noodles and gravy? No, no, this is way way better
• 1:09:11
  than that. We're going People don't like
• 1:09:12
  this movie with your first overall pick.
• 1:09:15
  No, I mean, there's, there are people that don't like, really
• 1:09:17
  like it, like a lot. But it's on 24/7 on Christmas
• 1:09:21
  Eve on 2 stations. You flip it on TNT or TBS and
• 1:09:26
  it's just going to replay over and over for 24 straight hours.
• 1:09:29
  I usually watch it a couple of times during that time frame.
• 1:09:31
  But a Christmas story with Ralphie Ralphie in the in the BB
• 1:09:36
  gun and and and the whole family is probably.
• 1:09:41
  Who doesn't like the Christmas? Story.
• 1:09:42
  I've heard people say they don't like it.
• 1:09:45
  What? I mean, those people aren't very
• 1:09:48
  smart. That was my that I was trying to
• 1:09:50
  pick between Christmas Vacation and A Christmas Story.
• 1:09:53
  That's my number one. That's why I'm like, I figured.
• 1:09:55
  I figured you were, I figured you were probably going with my
• 1:10:00
  third pick is, is that your debate?
• 1:10:02
  But I don't, I don't think Erica.
• 1:10:05
  I'm pretty sure Erica doesn't like Christmas story.
• 1:10:08
  Maybe you need to rethink that marriage.
• 1:10:09
  Yeah, it's all because of a movie.
• 1:10:13
  We had to talk. Like it's a tradition.
• 1:10:15
  Like it? I don't, I don't understand.
• 1:10:18
  Like I could watch that movie. I can't wait to watch that movie
• 1:10:21
  during Christmas. Like there's certain movies that
• 1:10:24
  I watch every year at Christmas. Yes.
• 1:10:26
  The first two that we've mentioned are automatics.
• 1:10:28
  Yes, automatics and my number two pick or #3 overall is the OG
• 1:10:36
  original Home alone. Yeah, I mean, bro, I got nothing
• 1:10:42
  like those are those are the we. I would have the exact same
• 1:10:47
  order right now. Yeah, I think I would too.
• 1:10:50
  And now? The question how we start
• 1:10:52
  getting into the How many picks are we doing each?
• 1:10:55
  We're doing 4. 4 picks. OK, OK.
• 1:10:58
  Now it's first getting a little bit tougher.
• 1:11:00
  It does get tougher, but I think it at #4 I'm going elf.
• 1:11:07
  Yeah, it's a good pick. And the sequels aren't normally
• 1:11:13
  that good. You going lost in New York?
• 1:11:17
  If I if I watch home alone one, I'm watching the home alone 2
• 1:11:20
  next. I mean, Home Alone 2 was good.
• 1:11:23
  It was a very good sequel. So yeah, I'm going Elf at Home
• 1:11:28
  Alone 2. OK, OK.
• 1:11:31
  I like that. My next pick, we're going to go
• 1:11:35
  with Tim Allen and the Santa Claus.
• 1:11:39
  See. This is not good because I'm not
• 1:11:41
  able to cuss you out and you aren't able to because we are.
• 1:11:44
  We are getting this. Right.
• 1:11:47
  Yeah. It was like, I feel like most of
• 1:11:49
  our listening audience would probably agree with us.
• 1:11:52
  So Santa Claus. And then would I have one more
• 1:11:54
  pick? I mean, I'm going to go way off
• 1:11:56
  the path there just because I really enjoy the movie.
• 1:11:59
  This is your last pick. And it's not really like 100% of
• 1:12:02
  Christmas movie, but it is based around Christmas.
• 1:12:04
  Don't do die hard. No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:12:06
  It's This is more of a Christmas movie than that Just Friends
• 1:12:10
  with Ryan Reynolds and Amy Smart.
• 1:12:12
  Just Friends is a great. Is that the one where he's fat?
• 1:12:15
  Yeah, yeah. He's not an Anna.
• 1:12:19
  It was an Anna. Faris, I think is another.
• 1:12:21
  Yes, and she's like, he's like her agent or something.
• 1:12:24
  Yes, there's no, there's no way this.
• 1:12:26
  Is it's so good? I mean, it's a fine.
• 1:12:29
  Movie. It's a great movie.
• 1:12:32
  It does not belong on this list. It belongs on the list.
• 1:12:34
  It belongs on my list. I love just friends.
• 1:12:37
  I would watch just friends right now if I.
• 1:12:38
  Could, I mean aren't there a lot of movies that are surround like
• 1:12:41
  around Christmas but they're not actually a Christmas movie?
• 1:12:44
  I don't know. Like that's I would say Die hard
• 1:12:47
  is in that same. No, like, like, like, no, like
• 1:12:52
  Just Friends is more of a Christmas movie than than that.
• 1:12:54
  You got one more pick. Why you got you have to, if
• 1:12:57
  we're going to do these lists, you got to put a controversial
• 1:12:59
  pick in there and I won't have to.
• 1:13:01
  When our listeners, when our listeners hear this list,
• 1:13:04
  they're going to be like, Oh yeah, just Friends.
• 1:13:07
  That's a great movie. That's a great pick.
• 1:13:08
  That's what they're going to say.
• 1:13:11
  They're going to say. This is another movie that 100%
• 1:13:15
  I'll watch every Christmas. Bad Santa, Oh.
• 1:13:17
  My God. Billy Bob Thornton.
• 1:13:20
  Yes, underrated Christmas movie. It's like bad mom's Christmas or
• 1:13:26
  something. I'll I'll watch that because of
• 1:13:28
  Mila Kunis, but it's not going on my list just because Amy
• 1:13:32
  Smart's Carrie and just friends and getting them on your list.
• 1:13:35
  That ain't a reason. Bad Santa, dude.
• 1:13:39
  The little boy is one of the most hilarious characters in the
• 1:13:42
  history of film history of what did you do with sandwiches?
• 1:13:47
  I can't really say Woody what he says, but it's it's like
• 1:13:53
  unbelievable. Those like I'll watch it, I'll
• 1:13:56
  100% well I'll if I have to pay for a streaming service for a
• 1:14:00
  month to be able to watch Bad Santa I will do it.
• 1:14:03
  I might just go out and find the DVD as a Christmas gift to you
• 1:14:05
  and and get it for. You, I already have it.
• 1:14:08
  I already have it. You don't need to be doing that.
• 1:14:10
  Well then what do you need a streaming service for?
• 1:14:12
  Because I don't even think I have a DVD player anymore.
• 1:14:15
  It's 20. It's 2000. 25 Pop it in.
• 1:14:17
  Pop it in your PlayStation. Yeah, my PlayStation don't have
• 1:14:20
  it. Classics that we left off.
• 1:14:22
  So I mean I I mostly agree with our list except the last two
• 1:14:25
  picks are a little controversial, which we we
• 1:14:27
  needed because I think Bad Santa is a bad pick.
• 1:14:29
  I don't think mine is controversial at all.
• 1:14:31
  Your bad Santa does not belong on the list just.
• 1:14:33
  Friends ain't even a Christmas movie.
• 1:14:34
  Is it is a Christmas movie? It absolutely is a Christmas
• 1:14:37
  movie. They sing Christmas carols to
• 1:14:41
  like. Christmas carols and a lot of
• 1:14:43
  movies. All right, what?
• 1:14:44
  What'd we leave off? I mean, some some classics that
• 1:14:47
  we left off, but I mean, these were like before our time, like
• 1:14:49
  the Miracle on 34th St. and It's a Wonderful Life, no.
• 1:14:54
  Grinch out for leaving those off.
• 1:14:55
  No Grinch on the. If you were going Grinch, which
• 1:14:58
  one would you put? On Jim Carrey Grinch.
• 1:15:01
  Everybody said the new 1 was really good but I haven't
• 1:15:03
  watched. It I mean Polar Express is a
• 1:15:04
  good one, but. We are not putting Polar Express
• 1:15:07
  on our list. What about The Muppets Christmas
• 1:15:09
  Carol? I mean all the Christmas
• 1:15:11
  Flintstones. Christmas Carol's the best
• 1:15:12
  Christmas Carol. Charlie Brown Christmas.
• 1:15:14
  Charlie Brown Christmas could have been on the list.
• 1:15:16
  Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer The Old the.
• 1:15:19
  The Claymation. Yes, I mean, that was my
• 1:15:22
  favorite as a kid, the Obama told Stole Man.
• 1:15:24
  I'm still kind of he's my one of my favorite Christmas
• 1:15:27
  characters. Yeah, no, I think I won the
• 1:15:30
  draft though. Well, just friends lost you the
• 1:15:33
  draft. No, well, just friends actually
• 1:15:35
  put me over the top. We didn't talk about Scrooged.
• 1:15:39
  Yeah. I mean, there's like 47 Santa
• 1:15:42
  Clauses now. Yeah, just the original 10
• 1:15:45
  island number one. That's all you need.
• 1:15:48
  I'm just glad that Neil got his weenie whistle on that one.
• 1:15:51
  You didn't mention a very Harold and Kumar Christmas.
• 1:15:54
  That was going to be my next. Actually good, that was going to
• 1:15:56
  be my next. Gig, but we ran out of time.
• 1:15:58
  It's actually a good movie. It doesn't deserve on a list.
• 1:16:01
  Oh, it doesn't deserve on anybody's.
• 1:16:02
  List Charlie Brown. It was probably, I don't know,
• 1:16:06
  it's just. I won.
• 1:16:08
  I don't think I won the. Trick, I don't think you did,
• 1:16:10
  but I mean. Just friends, let the listeners.
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  To come up with anything better than just friends.
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  I don't. I don't need to come up with
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  anything better than just friends, because just friends is
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  that good? Is that good?
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  We're going to this, we're going to be doing this show in 10
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  years and it that's going to be your noodles and gravy.
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  That's just that is not a noodles and gravy type of a pig.
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  It is a pick and also there's no family tradition with it.
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  Like you don't. Even grandma didn't make you
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  just friends. She wasn't the director and the
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  producer of Just Friends. But also I put it as my second.
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  I would have put it as my second pick then maybe I'll get cussed
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  out. But since I put it as my last
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  pick and it is a great movie, it deserves to be on the list.
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  I will. Gravy does not deserve to be on
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  any Thanksgiving list, ever. This is my you keep ragging my
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  my grandma traditions. Dude, your, your grandma is a
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  lovely lady. She was a lovely lady.
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  And I've got the most utmost respect for for Grandma Evans.
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  Or was it your mom's mom? Wait, Grandma Whalen?
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  Grandma Whalen. Utmost respect.
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  But the noodles and gravy? I'm dude 100% I'm getting you
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  something next year. I can't wait.
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  I can't wait. Can I have it in like March when
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  like normal people eat noodles and gravy?
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  No, you, but you can have it early because I think I'm going
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  to the Caymans again. So you'll get it in mid
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  November. Speaking of early, you got
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  cussed out yesterday a little bit before from William Brown.
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  Told him I would give him a shout out on here.
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  You went to your mom's birthday three weeks early.
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  Yeah, we had a little birthday celebration for Shirley.
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  Yeah, early. So happy three-week early
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  birthday to Shirley. Yeah.
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  And you got you said you can have so you can have Italian for
• 1:17:49
  dinner and Lillian Brussels straight out because he's like,
• 1:17:54
  well, that's weird because you're eating Italian on the
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  weekend and he'll eat something. It wasn't the.
• 1:17:59
  Weekend. The weekend because you were
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  having it last night. He's like, I'll eat Italian on
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  the weekdays. Normally you have Italian on the
• 1:18:06
  weekdays. We had al pastor.
• 1:18:10
  It was delicious. I don't know what that is.
• 1:18:12
  Is that a restaurant or is that a food?
• 1:18:15
  It's a it's a restaurant. OK, Pretty authentic.
• 1:18:19
  We'll check out some carbonara. We got some.
• 1:18:21
  We got some pizza. We got some spaghetti.
• 1:18:24
  Just the cat. The the basics.
• 1:18:26
  Regular old. Yeah, basic.
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  Food groups. But yeah, we we did Mom's
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  birthday because she's birth on the 21st and everything gets
• 1:18:35
  busy around Christmas. And if you're a Christmas baby,
• 1:18:37
  your birthday always gets forgotten.
• 1:18:39
  So when's your birthday party? I.
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  Don't know, nobody cares they. Don't even did they even like
• 1:18:43
  celebrate, even sing happy birthday to you last night or
• 1:18:45
  was it just mom? That was just mom.
• 1:18:47
  They're not wanting us to be just mom.
• 1:18:49
  Your your birthday's on the 24th.
• 1:18:51
  We got to get you a birthday party.
• 1:18:53
  Yeah, we're. We're fine.
• 1:18:54
  We'll bring some, we'll bring some some cupcakes to the
• 1:18:56
  tailgate next week against the Ravens and we.
• 1:18:58
  Don't need a We don't need a birthday party, but we should
• 1:19:01
  throw a party because we're back on air for the first time in 2
• 1:19:04
  1/2 weeks. Yeah, we're not dead.
• 1:19:07
  I knew we'd go long today because we got a lot to talk
• 1:19:10
  about. Yeah, that was a good show.
• 1:19:14
  You, you take keep telling yourself that.
• 1:19:16
  But we got to figure out. We'll make this again because.
• 1:19:20
  Both. Work in the women's game on
• 1:19:22
  Wednesday night. I have a Christmas party on
• 1:19:25
  Thursday night. Sundays have been tough because.
• 1:19:29
  Christmas party on Friday night. So basketball.
• 1:19:33
  We'll be in Cincinnati on Sunday, so Monday, next Monday
• 1:19:37
  at the. I mean, we could do, we could do
• 1:19:40
  a a pod from the Yum Center since it's a 9:00 game against
• 1:19:45
  Ball State on Wednesday night, Yeah.
• 1:19:50
  Yeah, I guess we could do it before.
• 1:19:51
  I'm so saying a little. 7:00 Pod 630 Pod from the locker rooms of
• 1:19:56
  the KFC Yum Center. OK, we'll, we'll talk about it,
• 1:19:59
  but I don't know, I'm just glad it's not going to take me 47
• 1:20:03
  hours to upload this because I'm at the crib.
• 1:20:07
  There you go, while you're uploading it.
• 1:20:10
  And why don't you go pop in that Bad Santa Seat, Bad Santa DVD
• 1:20:13
  and have yourself a night when? Was the last time you watched
• 1:20:17
  it? Oh, it's been a while.
• 1:20:19
  Watch it I'm. Just going to go out.
• 1:20:21
  I'm going to watch Just Friends. I will watch just Friends but
• 1:20:24
  you promised me you're going to watch Bad Santa and next year
• 1:20:26
  that will probably be on your list.
• 1:20:28
  It won't be, but also you got you got to get busy watching the
• 1:20:31
  Fast and Furious franchises because you owe us A10 page
• 1:20:34
  paper at the end of the season, so.
• 1:20:37
  From first to worst, it's days giving that belt away when you
• 1:20:42
  coming last just a shamble all time shambles of the season for
• 1:20:46
  the hoodies. My fantasy squads.
• 1:20:48
  All three of them is a rough year and I'm I'm used to winning
• 1:20:51
  used to winning. But all right, we've rambled
• 1:20:55
  long enough for the six six nil. I'm the 410.
• 1:20:59
  Nick, you've been listening to a high differential.
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• 1:21:08
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• 1:21:10
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• 1:21:14
  week. Give it to.
• 1:21:20
  Me. Oh, you died.
• 1:21:21
  Oh, are you back? Yeah.
• 1:21:23
  Are you back? That was you.
• 1:21:24
  It was you. That was not me.
• 1:21:27
  All right. Yeah, you got The Who, who, who
• 1:21:30
  just.