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Covid Con Men EXPOSED. $1B Lawsuit Filed Against EcoHealth Alliance – Tom Renz Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So over the past couple of years, we've seen small businesses crushed, families torn apart, jobs lost because of mandates, and a relentless campaign against all of us who dared to speak up, and all over a hyped up man made preplanned pandemic that's made a handful of people filthy rich, while ushering in a new form of technocratic tyranny for the rest of us. If you're anything like me, you've been praying for the day when these criminal these criminals be brought to justice. Attorney Tom Rinz's billion dollar lawsuit against the mad scientist at the center of this hoax is a major step in that direction.
• 0:44
  It's just one of the many dominoes that are starting to fall for these perpetrators. And since it's about time we heard some good news, it's with the greatest pleasure I welcome attorney Tom Rinz to my show today. But first, today's show is brought to you by Rise TV, a Patriot owned streaming platform. With all the big tech censorship and demonetization going on right now, the subscribers at Rise TV are literally the reason I can bring you this critical information today. Over at Rise, our mission is to uncover the truth no matter how dark and difficult, while always holding on to hope.
• 1:16
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• 2:06
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• 2:27
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• 2:58
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• 3:18
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• 5:10
  Be sure to use my promo code Seth for your free title scan at hometitlelock.com/ Seth promo code Seth. Alright, folks. If you're watching the news like I am, you feel like almost every day we're getting hit by something else. There's the next thing to worry about, and we feel like, gosh, we just we need to have some winning. We need to be fighting back and and really gain some traction against these criminals.
• 5:33
  Now, attorney Tom Rens is someone who is on the forefront. He's on the front lines of fighting for the freedom loving people around the world. And he just filed a massive billion dollar lawsuit against these criminals. I'm so honored to have him on my show today. And the fact is, he's a fellow Ohioan, which makes him like even more cool.
• 5:55
  So anyway, let's go ahead and get to today's show. Tom, thank you so much for joining me today.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: Seth, it's an honor to be here. I really enjoyed being with you the last time. And boy, I gotta tell you, your standards for cool are pretty low.
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm a dad. So I you know, I'm out and wearing Birkenstocks with socks and doing all kinds of stuff like So for me, if someone's from Ohio, and they're a Patriot, they're like, two big checks in my book.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: There you go. There you go. The thing destroys anything that that's even remotely close to cool. So I understand that. And it's a, it's well worth the trade.
• 6:37
  But it certainly does.
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: It really is. So Tom, you're one of the people that whenever I watch an interview you do or read a story about you, like I was reading about you on Natural Health News this morning, I'm always left with encouragement because you're not someone who's out there just talking about the problems. You're on the front line doing something about the problems. And we've seen how the the deep state, whatever you wanna call these criminals, they've used lawfare against us in every way possible, whether it was about the election, medical, you know, censorship, etcetera. And I feel that we're so lucky to have you on our team fighting, using their own methods against them.
• 7:13
  And so I'm really excited to hear about this massive lawsuit that you've just filed against EcoHealth Alliance and some of the the main characters that were there. So can you go ahead and just walk us through, like, you know, what is this lawsuit that you've recently filed?
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: So the lawsuit is for the creation and subsequent release and then injury from that release of SARS CoV-two, which is the virus that's thought to cause COVID-nineteen. The way to think about this, right, because we've got to break this down, we can't talk about it as a lawyer. It doesn't make sense to people because lawyers are special and we don't speak English very often. So let me break it down like this. You, you decide to to make a chemical factory.
• 8:01
  Right? And you you this chemical factory, you're gonna make some sort of a super dangerous chemical. And you decide to build it and your factory blows up and the chemical releases and it gets in the air and it floats around and it kills all sorts of people around the plant. Well, those people are going to sue you because you decided to make a dangerous chemical plant and the chemicals got out and it killed them. And you're going to lose that case because, well, you made a dangerous chemical plant and it did get out.
• 8:35
  That's just part of the deal. Under the law, if you undertake to do something that's an abnormally dangerous activity, you're typically held liable if the results of undertaking that activity are injurious to other parties, other people, right? That's precisely what we're alleging happened here. So these guys, Equal Health Alliance and other defendants here, undertook to do this super dangerous gain of function research, which means modifying viruses and screwing with them and and changing them so that they have more capability to infect or harm humans. That's about as dangerous a work as you can do.
• 9:20
  Right? And not only did they do it do that, but they intentionally they don't just modify it. They intentionally modified it in ways specific to facilitate it being more dangerous, not to everything, but to humans. And the reason they did that is they claimed that they were trying to determine how it might evolve, these viruses might evolve, where they could create a pandemic. The problem is, is you're creating the pandemic when you create the virus or facilitate the virus doing this.
• 9:55
  They're trying to guess at evolution, which is impossible. You think of how many variables would go into something like that. It's impossible. But that's what they did. So in this lab, they're working on this virus.
• 10:09
  They make it more dangerous. And the virus then is made more dangerous and gets out. Well, at the end of the day, this virus kills six and a half million people according to the WHO. And, you know, for your audience, I know you got some some sharp people watching. And so please don't email me and tell me that the WHO's numbers are garbage.
• 10:33
  I'm aware of the numbers. You know, Tom,
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: one quick second. Just want to say that for the folks that are watching on YouTube, we're now going to cut the stream. We let go a little bit so I get a preview of what we're gonna talk about as we get into the the nitty gritty. So if you're watching on YouTube, please go to the description, click on the link. There's a Rumble link.
• 10:51
  Go watch it for free on Rumble. And actually, stop watching YouTube anyway. Come on and join us on Rumble because they support free speech. So, anyway, sorry, Tom, to interrupt you with that.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. I'm glad to do it because, I mean, YouTube would have threw you off in a heartbeat. I can't believe you know, even even letting my face show up on your YouTube feed is a risk. You're a brave man.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: You know, had Karen Kingston on recently a few months back and got a strike instantly and was I was locked out of my YouTube account for for seven days because of it.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It doesn't surprise me. It's ridiculous. But you know, Google is part and parcel of this whole thing. By the way, Google seems to have been involved with investments with EcoHealth at some point.
• 11:35
  Whether it's grants, whether it's donations, the Google Foundation seems to have been supporters of EcoHealth Alliance, which is so I guess it's not a surprise they wouldn't want us talking about that.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: So
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: So basically, so they they they created this virus using gala function and chimeric research, which is looking at how to get these viruses into humans from bats, and they modified them to spread so that they basically created this super weapon and then over in Wuhan. So what happened next?
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So it gets out and kills a lot of people. Now there's a few other things that are really important to understand. We allege in the suit that they did not have proper safety protocols. We allege that because we have FOIA emails and other documents showing that there are state department wires going back and forth about this.
• 12:32
  And Doctor. Andrew Huff's testimony, who is a very important witness in this, he came right out and said that he had brought up at an executive meeting at EcoHealth Alliance that we don't have the proper safety protocols in place. And the EcoHealth Alliance chose not to do anything about it. They didn't care. So you're doing super dangerous research on something that can cause a global pandemic without safety protocols in place.
• 13:04
  I mean, to me, from a lawsuit perspective, this is like if I'm standing in town square throwing dynamite and just watching it blow up and someone gets hurt. Geez, I'm liable. Right? But that's not enough, right? You also have to consider the where.
• 13:22
  So not only were we doing dangerous research on a virus that has pandemic potential without proper safety protocols in place, But we did it in a lab that's tied in with a bioweapons research for a country that has said they want to use bioweapons against us. China's been talking openly about using bioweapons against The United States since the nineties.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, the the leaked speech from general Qi Haochen specifically talks it was just from around I think it was, like, February right around February, talked specifically about even using bioweapons that they could use to target different races. They talked about using developing bioweapons to target the American people specifically. Yeah. So this is a country that yeah. You're right.
• 14:13
  They they've shown it's if you're looking at a murder trial, it's like, was their intent to kill? It's like, yeah, they've shown intent to use bioweapons to maim and murder Americans.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, if I say I'm going to shoot you and you end up shot, the fact that I said I was going to shoot you certainly seems to be relevant evidence, doesn't it? So that's kind of what we got going on here. All of this happens and then the virus gets out. And then instead of saying, hey, we were experimenting on this virus and we think this is what happened and it's out and here's what we know about it.
• 14:51
  Here's what we know about it. So here's what you should probably you know, it's this dangerous. It's not that dangerous. It's going to affect this. It's not going to affect that.
• 15:01
  Instead, what they do is they immediately go into cover up mode. Anthony Fauci, Peter Dasek, we've got the FOIA emails. We're talking about how they're going to cover this up. Cover up the fact that it came from the lab. And you don't spend time talking about how you're going to hide something unless you've got something to hide.
• 15:22
  But they did. They had extensive conversations about it. And not only did they have extensive conversations about it, but there were some scientists out there that were talking about the lab leak theory. And Fauci gets on the phone with them. And suddenly after the phone call, two things happen.
• 15:43
  They quit talking about lab leak and embrace this natural origin theory. And they start getting a whole bunch more money from Anthony Fauci. Shocking, right? So Fauci is listen, he funded this. It would naturally be more than a little bit of an embarrass ment if he was funding this.
• 16:04
  And everybody found out that he funded the pandemic that essentially shut down the world. So yeah, he's covering it up. They didn't tell anybody. And because they didn't tell anybody, we did some really stupid things. Stupid, stupid things like locking down for fourteen days, which was completely useless.
• 16:25
  It did nothing to help anything. All it did was destroy our economy and cause problems. They push social distancing and masks. They don't work. We knew they didn't work from the beginning, but they still push it and were able to push it because these guys were covering up the truth.
• 16:42
  Had they just been honest about it, things would have probably progressed quite a bit differently. Yes, they would have to pay a price, but potentially less of a price than they'll have to pay now. We'll see, God willing. So as this progresses then, these guys continue covering this up. They continue making excuses, and then they find ways to profit off of it as if that's not bad enough.
• 17:09
  So the whole thing, I don't have to get into the specific motives, but the motives are pretty clear. They got funding to do it. Because at the end of the day, they created a dangerous pandemic causing virus in a lab. It got out. It killed millions of people.
• 17:32
  And we believe they should be held accountable for that. Yeah. So that's that's the case.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: So where did you file the case? Because I think that we're used to seeing the cases that are filed for the good, you know, really get nowhere. Look at the election. And and, know, up to Supreme Court, everything gets tossed out, which gives me a little bit of, you know, caution when getting excited about a lawsuit, of course, because it's like, well, you know, we're consistently met with these just the corrupt system and and the Soros appointed AGs and everything. So where did you file this lawsuit at?
• 18:07
  And do you and do you think that this lawsuit actually has enough teeth to to make a dent in this overall situation?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's those are great questions. And we filed it in a state court in New York. And a lot of people say, well, why would you do that? Well, I can't tell you.
• 18:24
  Okay. Unfortunately, there's a lot of trial strategy that we can't talk about. But ultimately, remember something. My job as a lawyer is to represent my plaintiffs. Now my plaintiffs cause and the greater cause are lion deer.
• 18:39
  So that's a great thing. As an attorney, plaintiffs are several people who've been sick, injured, killed or lost loved ones from SARS CoV-two. And we're actually we're going to start collecting I'm hoping I'll have up to date, we're going to start collecting data on anybody who's been sick, injured, killed from SARS CoV-two so that we can try and help get justice for every single one of them. Because to my mind, anybody who caught COVID-nineteen should be able to obtain damages from these people. Because
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: It's
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: gonna be
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the world's biggest class action lawsuit.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I get some joy out of that thought. It's not because of I'm a lawyer, so everybody thinks, Oh, I bet he does. He's gonna line his pockets. No, no. At the end of the day, if I could take every ill gotten dime from every scumbag monster that earned a penny off of the death and carnage that was SARS CoV-two and give it back to We the People, I would be the happiest man in the world.
• 19:50
  I mean, I think most of the people that are watching probably know a little bit about my work. And I don't mean to be presumptuous. I'm honored by that. But I've been fighting this hard. Last time we talked, I talked about some of the hard things that I've dealt with, some of the ugly things.
• 20:13
  The fight is something that in the courts, I will always be a professional and I'll always do what you gotta do. But for me to suggest that there's not a personal stake in this is absurd. I want justice for people. I want to make sure that the people behind us are held accountable. I spent every waking minute of the last two and a half, almost three years working on this.
• 20:38
  So I do want accountability. And if we can make this the first step in bringing accountability to the people who created this havoc and brought this evil on the world, Well, that's good work. That's God's work. At the end of the day, I'll be a happy man. You know, if I can spend years and years doling out money to people who are injured by this, boy, I'd be happy to do that because I would just the joy I would get out of making people and you can't make them whole, right?
• 21:13
  You lose your mother, you lose your brother, I can never replace that. But I can at least bring a little bit of accountability and pain to the monsters that were behind it. So that's a big motivating factor to me. And yes, yes, we've got a handful of plaintiffs right now. We're going have more.
• 21:32
  There's going be more on this. So I think it could be huge. And then I also want to answer the other question that you posed because it's very important. You talked about a lot of cases being thrown out and that's true. That's very true.
• 21:48
  And that's always a possibility. I'm sure they will do some motion play with us. What I will tell you, though, is that this is a different type of case. So when we look at the election cases and we look at a lot of the COVID cases we filed, it's new. Right?
• 22:04
  We've never had an instance where there was a lock down like this on a national scale. We've never had an instance where an election was stolen in that way. And so and courts don't like new. Courts, they don't react well to new radical changes, ideas. And that's usually a good thing because you want the interpretation of law to be steady.
• 22:27
  But when something new and radical like this comes, the courts boy, they're hesitant. And I know, and it's frustrating. But the good thing about this case, and one of the things that has me most hopeful, is this isn't new. This is a very, very traditional case. This is what's called a toxic tort.
• 22:47
  We structured this as a toxic tort. It's filed as a toxic tort. And it's a case that courts see all the time. You see the asbestos cases. Those are toxic tort cases.
• 22:58
  You see mold cases. Those are toxic tort cases. You see a lot of these cases. What a toxic tort case typically is, is you get some sort of a toxin that gets into the environment and makes people sick or injured. And someone's held accountable for that because whoever took actions that resulted in that toxin being put in the environment is typically liable for that.
• 23:23
  And that's exactly what this is. I talked about the chemical plant. I explained it on Clay's show, Clay Clark's show as a dynamite factory. If you do something dangerous, it blows up and causes damage outside of your factory or it gets out, you know that you're responsible. Same thing here.
• 23:44
  It wasn't mold that got out. It wasn't asbestos that got out. It was a disease that got out that they created. And so the case theory is not a new theory. It's not something that where the courts have to try and relearn the law.
• 23:58
  They just have to apply it to this set of facts. Now, there's a lot of difficulties in any case like this. I mean, it's a very complex case. The science on it is very complex. The evidentiary findings and things like that, mean, there's a lot there.
• 24:16
  Finding out and unweaving who did what when will take some time. But I'm very hopeful that this is the proper structure to bring accountability in this. To my mind, there's very little doubt, and I stand strongly behind the allegation that they did create this in the lab. And so I think that we will see a very strong possibility for accountability to to to happen here.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: And are you in this case, are you going after anything in the criminal sense, like folks like Ralph Baric or Peter Dasek, is it, you know, is it something like you know, so say it's DuPont, for instance, that has their factory, and and they leak some chemical into the water stream, and the kids are getting cancer because of it. You know, my guess is that it's it's something like, you know, they they pay a big fine and move on with it. But is this something where you're going after criminal intent and where we could see people like potentially even Fauci or some people that, you know, tied to the the core of this, you know, pandemic, could this put put them behind bars?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: So I can't prosecute someone criminally. I don't have authority to to do that. But the findings in this could absolutely be used for that purpose. Now right now, Fauci is not named. And we have John and Jane Doe one through a thousand in there.
• 25:42
  And the reason for that is is when you do that in a case, you typically do it because you can't, when you file, necessarily guarantee that you can include every necessary party to the case. Now I firmly believe that there are probably a number of other people who are probably necessary parties for this case. But until we get some initial discovery, we can't we can't say for sure who all. Maybe it's Anthony Fauci. Maybe it's the Rockefeller Foundation.
• 26:12
  Maybe it's a lot of different people. I don't know. So what we did was we filed based on what we felt we had evidence to support. But we included John and Jane Doe in the complaint so that we could do what you do when you don't know, you don't have access to everything. You you, get some initial discovery to identify necessary parties, and then you include them.
• 26:35
  So I think that that'll be a really important aspect of this. I can't say who will end up being included for sure. I certainly have suspicions. I certainly know who I'd like to have included. But it's got to be supported by the evidence.
• 26:49
  One thing about this that people got to understand, I want justice as much as anybody on this planet. I've lost loved ones. I've defended more people. I've been in this fight as much as anybody. But getting that justice, we have to do it through the process.
• 27:09
  Right? And and that process means that whether what I love to include all sorts of people that you can name on this? Absolutely. But until I've got the paper trail and the evidence and everything I need to get them there, I can't do it. I've got to be disciplined.
• 27:26
  My desire, my personal desire to bring justice to people who I believe are accountable cannot supersede my judgment as a as a officer of the court. And so I've got to do this properly. No matter how bad I just want to go punch somebody.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you're a tall guy. I wouldn't want to get punched by you. I've met you in person. I think Fauci wouldn't be standing after that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Very Shrek like. A lot of years of boxing and martial arts and things like that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I'm even more frightened now. So I'm six one. So you're, you know, so well, it's, I mean, it's encouraging to me because I feel like, and for a lot of, you know, the audience is watching as well, you know, we have this feeling that like, we're we're the little guy. You know, we're the it's the David and Goliath.
• 28:15
  But it's like we're all we're all Davids, and and we don't have a slingshot. And we try to use a slingshot, and they've got bazookas. They keep aiming at us and shutting down social media accounts and arresting people, the FBI going after people. So it it is encouraging. And this it's an important part of this story because, you know, I I know you.
• 28:33
  You're just an ordinary guy from Cincinnati or Ohio area that, you know, wanted to come out and said actually, you're not from Cincinnati. I'm sorry. You're you're Ohio. But you're just an ordinary person. And so look, like, I'm gonna fight against this.
• 28:46
  Right? I'm gonna fight against this. And and here you are, you know, on the front lines, as David with a little sling full of rocks going up against Goliath. And the more people that can be doing this, eventually, we're going to see them fall. Eventually, one of those little stones is going to connect right between the eyes, and we're going to see the giant fall.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a couple things that you said that I think are so so important. The fact that I'm a nobody, the fact that I'm just one of the we the people, that's everything. So your show, Man in America, that's me. I'm just some guy. Right?
• 29:25
  And I stood. I stood and I've continued and I will continue to stand. This is a hill I'll die on. I'm okay with that. There are things worse than death, and one of them is living on your knees.
• 29:37
  It ain't happening. So you got to understand that that lesson is one of the most important things to take from my story. I'm on your show. I'm on all these shows and doing all these things and doing all this stuff. And it's because I'm standing.
• 29:55
  It's because I'm not gonna back down. And I'm not. I'm just not. And it's not because I wanna be on a show. It's not because I want my face out there.
• 30:03
  It's because there are things we're standing for. And I go on these shows not because I want people to see my face, but because I want people to know that they can stand. You don't have to be a big shot to do something big. David was not a big shot. I've had a lot of comparisons, and this is one of the other things I took from what you said there.
• 30:23
  A lot of people are like David and Goliath. Listen, I am a long world away from King David. Okay. They're not in that ballpark. But I do have one thing in common with him.
• 30:37
  I stood I stood and will continue to stand against something that's big and scary and should be able to crush me. I picked up my stones and I'm throwing them. Now whether or not it's me that ends up bringing down Goliath or any of a number of other people, I don't care. That's not what I'm doing it for. I just want him down.
• 30:56
  And I'm going keep throwing stones till he is. And that's the thing. It doesn't matter which of us nobody's do it. You know, they've taken all the somebody's. None of the somebody's are doing anything.
• 31:06
  We're three years in. When are we expecting one of the big shots to come in and save us? They haven't done it yet. It's been it's been almost three years. They're not you know, we put this stuff out there.
• 31:15
  We can't even get the the Republicans to talk about it before the election because they're afraid that pharma will come in and spend a bunch of money to try and beat them in the election. I posted last night on, I don't know, Twitter or truth or somewhere, probably all of them, that we said, well, you know, if the Republicans are telling us that they have to win the election to have the courage to stand against big pharma, why should we trust them if they won't talk about it before the election? You're not going to talk about it before the election, but you want me to trust you? You'll have the courage to do something after? Seems kind of hollow to me.
• 31:52
  You got no incentive to do it afterwards. Right now, at least you could say, Hey, I'm going to stand on this and make a promise, commitment that you're gonna. But I don't even hear much of that outside of a couple of guys who are actually pretty good on this. So it's left to us. It's left to we, the people.
• 32:14
  It's left to the man in America. It's left to the nobody from it's actually Fremont, Ohio. Much less impressive than Cincinnati. Actually, I really it's a beautiful little town and a good place. But it's, you know, small.
• 32:31
  And that's Okay, because it's left to those of us from the small places that aren't for sale, that are still willing to stand on principle, to stand and to fight for this. And that's what this is about. And it's an honor to do it. It's a I can't say it's a pleasure. It's rough some days, but it is truly an honor.
• 32:55
  And the support I get, the people who, you know, thank you for standing for us. I mean, it really it just means the world to me. It really does.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I think that one other thing that you have in common with David is that you've got God on your side. And they don't. And that's something I think that I have to keep reminding myself of that is that it's like, especially when we experience a loss. It's like, well, it wasn't God's timing yet. It wasn't God's timing yet.
• 33:23
  And, you know, there's so many examples in the Bible and across history of it's the timing has to be when the big man says, okay. Now the enemy is gonna fall. And there's a reason for that. And so that's it's always a a good reminder for me. So I wanna just a quick note to the audience.
• 33:42
  If you have any questions, so we always do our q and a on Rise TV exclusively. But I do wanna before we go over to Rise TV, wanna take a couple of questions from Rumble. Because I really appreciate the Rumble audience. So if you have any questions for Tom, just put question in your comment, and just let us know your questions. We'll take a few questions, and we'll continue that q and a over on Rise TV.
• 34:03
  And I also want to encourage everybody to share this video or podcast with anybody and everybody. This is really important. Even people that are feeling kind of down in the dumps and saying, Oh, we keep losing and everyone's accused me of being black pilled. We'll share this video with them and say, look, this guy, Tom Renz, is he's standing up against these guys. And I think he's there's a good chance that he's gonna win.
• 34:21
  If not this time, the next one, the next one, the next one. So, Tom, we're gonna we're gonna jump to a few questions here. But I want to bring up your website, because it's important that people know where they can go to support you. So this is Tom's website. It's rens dash, it's r e n s, or sorry, r e n z, or zed if you're from Australia.
• 34:47
  Renz Dash Law Dot Com. And so this is where you can learn about Tom. But if you want to support what Tom and his team are doing, he has a GiveSynGo. You see there's a big yellow link there that says help the freedom fight by going to GiveSynGo. That's how you can support Tom and his work.
• 35:05
  He's on the front lines as you're taking all kinds of flack. And it just it's it's really important for us to support what Tom is doing.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, Seth, I really appreciate that. It is. This is tough. And we're fighting billions of dollars. And on a good day, I got thousands.
• 35:25
  So I need more lawyers. I need more people. I need to expand the fight. I would appreciate any support. I also ask people to support Make Americans Free Again.
• 35:38
  It's Pam Popper's organization. They were a huge help in filing this lawsuit. And I also want to extend my thanks to Patty Finn and the other lawyers who've been involved in this because they've done a wonderful job And they're just they're good people. So it's been an honor to work with so many good people on this. And we appreciate whatever support you can give.
• 36:01
  It's a tough job.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you're I think you're up to it, and you're you're very purpose driven, which is which is not just incredible, but it's it's just inspiring to all of us. So I have a comment here from Rumble, which I think is I wanted to see what your thoughts about this is really important. This is from Tonkiesen over on Rumble who says, the Alex Jones suit was nearly a billion dollars. He didn't launch a pandemic.
• 36:28
  He warned about it. Such an incredible incredible point. What are your thoughts? I know that you're on Alex Jones's shows, you know, pretty often talking about this. What do you think about that?
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, was a little fussy. Was on there last night. You know, the thing about this is is, yeah, so I didn't follow every detail of Alex's case. Here's what I know. You know, they give these they gave these people an award that was absolutely astronomical.
• 36:57
  I'm not sure how you get to almost a billion dollars for anything anyone could ever say. Mean, it's a defamation suit, right? You've got to really do some magic to cause that kind of damage. I mean, we're talking a billion dollars. Now we sued in this for a billion dollars.
• 37:15
  Right now, this has caused six point five million deaths worldwide, according to the WHO. That doesn't count the lockdowns. It doesn't count the economic damage. It doesn't count the mental health damage. It doesn't count the long term damage to our kids' education and other such things.
• 37:33
  It doesn't count the vaccines or the vaccine deaths or the long term outcome of that. Just straight from the disease, according to the WHO, six point five million dead. Now, can you really compare anything that any human could ever say to the creation of a disease that killed six point five million. But, you know, the thing that's even sadder than that is that it's all over the media everywhere. Just like I saw a thing today about a January 6 area where one person died, one who was shot by a cop or trespassing of all things.
• 38:22
  You know? I mean, because we wouldn't want to have any threats or fear for our ruling class. Elites are nobility, right? Nonsense. The nobility partners with some crooks to to do something that results in six and a half million dead people.
• 38:41
  No investigations. No reports. I didn't see this on the front page of the New York Times or the Washington Post. I didn't see this lawsuit anywhere. We got a firsthand whistleblower.
• 38:55
  We've got all sorts of data. We got a 30 plus citations in a report corroborating the information from the whistleblower. I don't not a peep. Not a peep. But Alex Jones says things that people don't like.
• 39:12
  And I again, I don't know. Maybe he did defame them. But how do you get to a billion dollars over anything he said, but I can't even get people to talk about doing something that killed six and a half million people? I would love for anyone to explain this to me. I would love for any elected official, any of them, Democrat, Republican, anybody, to explain explain this to me.
• 39:38
  I don't care who it is. I just want someone to help me understand. And, you know, I say it rhetorically because I know they're not gonna answer. I know they're going to try and continue to cover this up. And at the end of the day, we all know they answer.
• 39:55
  They're crooks. That's the bottom line.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. They're in on it. So of course, they're going to cover it up. You know, they're they're part of it. And that's not even getting into what liability does the media have.
• 40:10
  Ignoring, you know, covering up. It's just it's astronomical. You know? Yeah. It's like what Trump said that, you know, China should pay us trillions of dollars.
• 40:19
  Right? So Yeah. And so here's one more comment from Rumble, and then we'll we'll jump over to the Rise audience. This is from CDC four thousand two and sixty four. And I won't hold your name against you.
• 40:29
  I'm sure CDC is your initials initials, who says, I love Tom Rens. I do see much as being released about the death jab. I wish they would call it for what it was a bioweapon instead of some incompetence by pharma or regulators.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Well, it certainly is. I mean, it's horrendous beyond words. And I mean, as they said yesterday, or I think it's yesterday in the EU, they didn't even check to see whether it stopped the spread, but yet they still wanted everybody to get it. Why?
• 41:01
  It's not going to stop the spread. Why should I get it? You worry about you, I'll worry about me. You're going to tell me to mind my own business when it comes to trying to indoctrinate kids about transgender issues. But you're gonna tell me that I shouldn't mind my own business, that you can get into my business when it comes to me getting a jab that isn't gonna change anything.
• 41:24
  It's not going to stop you from getting whatever I've got. It was a lie. They knew it was a lie. They didn't even test for it. They knew it wasn't going to stop the spread.
• 41:34
  So, you know, this is mind blowing. This is incredible. Now, obviously, we've done a lot of work and we'll continue to work on these death jabs. But there's no question about that. The corruption there is mind blowing.
• 41:47
  We're working on bringing some stuff on the hospital killing fields as well. And we've got some wonderful information there. But these this creation question is really critical. And the reason it's critical is because all of these things are very, very insulated. They passed a lot of laws to cover people on a lot of these things.
• 42:13
  This case is very traditional. There's not a whole lot of immunity to be had. We're suing a private company, not suing a government agency, you know. Excuse me, I'm so sorry. Got allergies going on here.
• 42:29
  And we have a crazy amount of flowers outside of my house. We're not suing anyone that really has any immunity here. We're suing a private company that did the same thing that a lot of other private companies have done in the past. They created a situation where there was something dangerous. The danger caused injury, and they're liable under the law.
• 42:56
  That's my belief. Right? So this is a very traditional thing. And I'm hoping that this will open the door to accountability on some of these other things. You know, if we can hold these guys accountable for this, any one of the three major areas of COVID, the creation of the disease, the death jabs, or the hospital killing fields.
• 43:23
  If any one of those three really collapses, it's going to force investigation into all of it. And so we have to we can find a chink in the armor, we're hidden. And this I think is a huge shank.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And I know that I've talked to Doctor. Brian Arndtis a lot about remdesivir and all that. And I'm actually should be having him on soon to talk about that, which is another the hospital killing fields is a whole other situation. So
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: So folks watching, we're now going to hop over to Rise TV to continue our q and a. So if you want to join us, it's a great way to support. There's a free trial for Rise in the description below the video or the podcast. So bring your questions over there. We'd love to see you.
• 44:11
  And just a reminder, I'll pull up Tom's website one more time, which is just renz law. It's renzlaw.com. Make sure you go there, check it out. Also, Tom is on Truth Social. I see he's very active on Truth Social to follow him there.
• 44:27
  And I'd love to see you over on Rise with your questions.