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Monday Mini: The Misinformation and Disinformation Around Kamala Harris · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha, and welcome to Steffone
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  Speaker 1: ever told your prediction if I heard you?
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  Speaker 2: And welcome to another Monday mini where I start having
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  Speaker 2: a mini panic attack. So join me, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: it is an election year and apparently we all feel
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  Speaker 2: this pain. And we just talked about the fact that
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  Speaker 2: we are getting NonStop techs. I think I've counted like
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  Speaker 2: twenty in one day in which I'm like, y'all are
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  Speaker 2: coming on too strong, and now I just hate you.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a whole different conversation. I know a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people are volunteering and doing it, but damn, I
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  Speaker 2: think that moneys go somewhere else. Anyway. Yes, the election
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  Speaker 2: year has become a constant whorlwind of drama and controversy,
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  Speaker 2: including the recent change in a Democratic nomination. And before
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  Speaker 2: we get into it, let's do it quick timestamp. This
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  Speaker 2: was written August first, twenty twenty four. It is being
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  Speaker 2: recorded August second, twenty twenty four. Things are changing quickly, yes,
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  Speaker 2: but also some things haven't changed. That's what we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. Because if you've been listening to any
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  Speaker 2: of our classics, or if you listen previously, you know
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to misinformation and disinformation, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: out there and some of the tactics have not changed.
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  Speaker 2: Before we start, yes, trigger warning, election stuff one two, racism, sexism,
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  Speaker 2: all the things, all the grossness that comes with election
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  Speaker 2: year slash lies being told by everyone. Okay, so let's
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  Speaker 2: jump into it. The chaos that is the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: four election has been a rollercoaster already. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: been for the last twenty years, but I guess forever forever.
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  Speaker 2: It just has been point blank. With Biden's recent announcement
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  Speaker 2: of dropping out of the presidential election for this upcoming term,
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  Speaker 2: so many people have thoughts and comments and that they
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  Speaker 2: have been I don't know, flooding the internets and media,
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  Speaker 2: including a lot of misinformation and disinformation that has been
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  Speaker 2: going NonStop, especially since Vice President Kamala Harris has started
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  Speaker 2: her campaign in getting the nominee spot for the DNC.
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  Speaker 2: So we have talked at length, including before the twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty election, and yes, go check out those episodes is
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  Speaker 2: back up as Classics and then our own episode that
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  Speaker 2: we talked about Georgia as being a swing sedate, all
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  Speaker 2: the things, the amount of abuse and harassment, many women
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  Speaker 2: get online, especially those in the public. I like political figures,
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  Speaker 2: and we've talked about journalists as well, So again reminders
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  Speaker 2: we couldn't and honestly, I couldn't find more recent statistics
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  Speaker 2: of gender based online harassment. But still, as of twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 2: at least fifty eight person a girls surveyed had endured
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  Speaker 2: some type of online harassment, and VP Harris has been
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  Speaker 2: subject to a lot of this harassment. Here's a quote
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  Speaker 2: from Carnegie Endowment dot org. A recent analysis shows that
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  Speaker 2: immediately following Kamala Harris's nomination as the twenty twenty US
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  Speaker 2: Vice president candidate, false claims about harris or being shared
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  Speaker 2: at at least three thousand times per hour on Twitter
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  Speaker 2: in what appeared to be in a coordinated effort. So
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  Speaker 2: this was before twenty twenty four years later. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen much since then. I'm sure there's data coming through
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  Speaker 2: as we speak. Again, it's not been that long since
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  Speaker 2: there's been talks of her being the new nominee, and honestly,
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be so much more today, even more
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  Speaker 2: so today and with this election cycle, especially with the
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  Speaker 2: fact that the current owner of that social media platform
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  Speaker 2: is circulating a lot of disinformation as well. And if
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  Speaker 2: you remember the different definitions, misinformation is false information that
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  Speaker 2: has spread regardless of whether there is intent to mislead.
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  Speaker 2: And then disinformation is deliberately misleading or biased information, manipulated
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  Speaker 2: narrative or facts, or propaganda, and that is from dictionary
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  Speaker 2: dot com. So with that, yes, he is spreading disinformation.
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  Speaker 2: And now the usage of AI, which again he reposted
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  Speaker 2: an AI post, essentially AI generated posts that had all
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  Speaker 2: this disinformation. Things are going to be more problematic and
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  Speaker 2: we have to be careful of what we see. For
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  Speaker 2: some context, here, here's what AP News released about the content.
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  Speaker 1: Quote.
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  Speaker 2: A video that uses an artificial intelligence voice cloning tool
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  Speaker 2: to mimic the voice of Vice President Kamala Harris saying
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  Speaker 2: things she did not say, is raising concerns about the
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  Speaker 2: power of AI to mislead. With election Day about three
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  Speaker 2: months away, the video gained a after tech A billionaire
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk shared it on his social media platform X
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  Speaker 2: on Friday without explicitly noting it was originally released as
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  Speaker 2: a parody. By late Sunday, Musk had clarified the video
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  Speaker 2: was intended as satire, pinning the original creator's post to
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  Speaker 2: his profile and using a pun to make the point
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  Speaker 2: that parody is not a crime. The video uses many
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  Speaker 2: of the same visuals as a real ad that Harris,
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  Speaker 2: the likely Democratic presidential nominee, released launching her campaign, but
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  Speaker 2: the fake ad swaps out Harris's voiceover audio with an
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  Speaker 2: AI generated voice that convincingly impersonates Harris. It goes, I
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, am your Democratic candidate for a president because
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden finally exposed his sinility at the debate the
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  Speaker 2: AI voices in the video, it claims Harris is a
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  Speaker 2: diversity hire because she is a woman and a person
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  Speaker 2: of color, and it says that she doesn't know the
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  Speaker 2: first thing about running the country, and the video retains
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  Speaker 2: Harris for president branding. It also adds in some authentic
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  Speaker 2: past clips of Harris really really, really concerning, and though
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  Speaker 2: I think most people recognized this wasn't authentic, it does
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  Speaker 2: bring concerns about what to expect as the election day
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  Speaker 2: gets closer. We already know people are pissed, especially when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to the Trump campaign that Harris is now
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  Speaker 2: stepping up because they are ready with all the merch
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  Speaker 2: talking about sleepy Joe and all of that and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: But now that's kind of gone out the window. They're
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  Speaker 2: talking with money and the fact that she has raised
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  Speaker 2: so much money. So there's a lot of things, including
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  Speaker 2: people saying that they're going to get sued that she
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  Speaker 2: can't be on the ballot, so much misinformation. Once again,
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  Speaker 2: even our own secretary person here, responsible Raffensberger, has verified
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  Speaker 2: that yes, she can be the new nominee. The DNC
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  Speaker 2: has not nominated anyone officially. So with all of that
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  Speaker 2: is really really worrisome. With that, let's talk about some
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  Speaker 2: of the misinventation and disinformation that is currently being used
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  Speaker 2: that have been used. So I'm going to tell you
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  Speaker 2: the statement and then we're going to debunk it or
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  Speaker 2: we're going to clarify it. So the statement is, again,
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  Speaker 2: this is actually something that I believed when she was
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  Speaker 2: originally nominated as VP, and I was really concerned, but
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  Speaker 2: that VP Harris put thousands of black community in jail
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  Speaker 2: in prison during her time as District Attorney and Attorney
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  Speaker 2: General in California for marijuana use. It turns out now
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  Speaker 2: it's not completely wrong, but it's not completely right. Under
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  Speaker 2: her term as AG, she had a pretty high number
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  Speaker 2: of arrests around fifteen hundred who were in prison for
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  Speaker 2: federal level of marijuana charges. Again, she is the attorney
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  Speaker 2: General at this point, so she was not necessarily hands
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  Speaker 2: on for all of these sentencing and or prosecution one two.
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  Speaker 2: As a DA she had around fourteen hundred to fifteen
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  Speaker 2: hundred arrests, but with around forty five just forty five imprisoned,
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  Speaker 2: so significantly less than what was originally insinuated. She also
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  Speaker 2: has recently come out in support of legalizing marijuana on
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  Speaker 2: a federal level. So there's a lot of conversation about
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  Speaker 2: her record and her being a cop, which has been
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  Speaker 2: a whole thing from both left and right, both liberal
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  Speaker 2: and conservative sides. And I'm not gonna lie, like that's
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  Speaker 2: definitely concerning when you see the prosecution side, and you
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  Speaker 2: do associate that with too much criminalization, and we know
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  Speaker 2: who was being criminalized, especially when it comes to drugs,
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  Speaker 2: but the numbers are not as high as people want
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  Speaker 2: to believe. And she did help establish a program while
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  Speaker 2: she was the district attorney to first offenders or like
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  Speaker 2: misdemeanor offenders for marijuana. But again it's not completely wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Another bit of disinformation is that she slept her way
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  Speaker 2: to the top, which we know when it comes for
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  Speaker 2: women all around, Sexualizing women or deeming them as being
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  Speaker 2: sexual in any way is a negative, and so therefore
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  Speaker 2: you can make that a big thing. Am I right?
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  Speaker 2: Am I right? So not surprising here that this would
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  Speaker 2: come out, and this is a go to tactic for
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  Speaker 2: any woman who might be successful, for any woman period,
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  Speaker 2: whether you are a victim, whether any of these things,
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  Speaker 2: this is the thing. Yes, Vice President Harris had a
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  Speaker 2: relationship with Willy Brown, who was eventually elected mayor, but
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  Speaker 2: not while he was mayor. Other than that, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: really sure why this would be advantageous. It was said
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  Speaker 2: that she was appointed to several committees, but it may
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  Speaker 2: also be hey, because she is a good lawyer, which
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  Speaker 2: I feel like is pretty proven. However, people still want
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  Speaker 2: to use that as the see she definitely slept with
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  Speaker 2: him to get two others, and then they were trying
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  Speaker 2: to say that he was still made which was not
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  Speaker 2: the case. I think he had been separated for several
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  Speaker 2: years before. They have actually met like way before, and
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  Speaker 2: then they broke up, which is dumb that I have
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  Speaker 2: to repeat this, but I'm going to tell you the facts.
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  Speaker 2: They broke up before he was actually elected mayor, so
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  Speaker 2: those were things to consider. Add to that, there was
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  Speaker 2: this narrative that she blew her way to the top
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  Speaker 2: as an escort. No, no, that's just completely untrue. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: it was weird that Megan Kelly, who is a big
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  Speaker 2: exposed person for Fox and for the conservative news media,
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  Speaker 2: kept saying these things as well, that she slept her
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  Speaker 2: way to the top, blah blah blah, because she was
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  Speaker 2: also this first one to be dismissive of the fact
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  Speaker 2: that former President Trump had not only had many affairs,
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  Speaker 2: having many children and several different marriages, actually slept with
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  Speaker 2: a prostitute while married. None of this was a problem. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's an adult, she said. No, one seems to be
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  Speaker 2: talking about the fact that he was seen on the
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  Speaker 2: list has been released with on Epstein's list, and his
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  Speaker 2: name was on it with actual victims and ages, which
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  Speaker 2: I find interesting. But somehow President Harris has blew away
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  Speaker 2: through the top, which is still is a weird way
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  Speaker 2: to say it. Another part is that she is childless. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: she is, actually she has no children. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know why. It could be medically, it could
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  Speaker 2: be choice, we don't know, we don't care. On my end,
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  Speaker 2: she did not birth any children. But according to the
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  Speaker 2: ex wife of Vice President Harris's current husband, she's a
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  Speaker 2: wonderful stepparent that has done well with co parenting. The
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  Speaker 2: fact that the ex wife of your current husband is
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  Speaker 2: speaking up for you, I think says a lot says
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  Speaker 2: a lot about her character. Again, this is not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: like she's amazing whatever. I'm not saying that. But that's
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  Speaker 2: why are we attacking women without children?
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  Speaker 1: Hey?
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  Speaker 2: Why are we taking women with cats? B I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a cat person, but.
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  Speaker 1: You should see. My friend has a great shirt that
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  Speaker 1: she about this whole childless cat lady thing that she's
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  Speaker 1: gonna wear to a lunch with her conservative parents. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you are a braver soul than I am.
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  Speaker 1: I love her.
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  Speaker 2: I love that she has the report back. I need
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  Speaker 2: to know what happened. Another bit of disinformation. She isn't black.
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  Speaker 2: She turned black according to Trump uh not too long ago,
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  Speaker 2: which I was like, hey, wait what wait what? Uh? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so her hair is just jamaking an Indian And there
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  Speaker 2: seems to be a lot of confusion from the Republican
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  Speaker 2: crowd as to how she could be both.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like impossible, impossible, you can't be more than one, right,
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  Speaker 3: excuse me, a white person, do you know how many
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  Speaker 3: ethnicities probably run through your blood, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Your background? Uh? Anyway, y'all sure do want to claim
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  Speaker 2: Native American for someone who don't want this whole multiracial thing.
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  Speaker 2: But what I know this is also the the deeper
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  Speaker 2: conversation that we're not going to get into as non
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  Speaker 2: black people about Jamaica and people in general, and then
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  Speaker 2: like countries and ethnicities and regions. We're not doing that.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, she is and has always considered herself black, like,
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  Speaker 2: h well.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting. When she first became nominated as a VP,
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  Speaker 1: they were like, oh, it's a black woman, and now
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  Speaker 1: they're like, no, she's not a black woman unless it
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  Speaker 1: serves their narrative better. Yes, she's a black woman.
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  Speaker 2: She's not Indian.
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  Speaker 3: Oh she's an Indian woman.
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  Speaker 2: She's not black? Why anyway? And this this newer stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Of course she has partied with both Diddy and Epstein. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: this would be the conspiracies along the QAnon route. Obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a quote from the Rolling Stone magazine. It says
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  Speaker 2: one user on x formerly Twitter with nearly a half
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  Speaker 2: a million followers posted a red carpet video and claimed
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  Speaker 2: that Harris had attended to quote Didy parties in Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 2: referring to the rapper and entrepreneur as the music industry's
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  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. Colmbs, however, does not appear in any of
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  Speaker 2: the footage, nor did he organize the event in question,
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  Speaker 2: which was the eighth annual Race to Erase Multiple Skile Roses.
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  Speaker 2: Williams was diagnosed with MS in nineteen ninety nine. Person
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  Speaker 2: she had dated I Believe Q and on promoter Don
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  Speaker 2: Lucre once banned from Twitter for sharing a graphic child
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  Speaker 2: sexual abuse material, only to have his account quickly reinstated
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  Speaker 2: by site owner. Elon Musk pushed the same false did
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  Speaker 2: he claim based on the non and incriminating video, with
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  Speaker 2: a post racking up more than one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: thousand likes. So again, these things are going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And speaking of that, there was also recent posts where
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  Speaker 2: they actually tried to photoshop her next to Epstein and
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  Speaker 2: it was not her, and people were able to debunk
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  Speaker 2: that really really quickly, like this is what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: But that has been going around and that is something
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  Speaker 2: that we need to look at and talk about. But
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  Speaker 2: no one seems scare about the Donald Trump hanging out
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  Speaker 2: with both Maxwell and Epstein, which is proven, repeatedly proven.
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  Speaker 2: He's talked about that, but yeah, no one cares. But okay,
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  Speaker 2: moving on, and then the classic Obama anti Obama tactic
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  Speaker 2: birth conspiracy has now come about. She wasn't born here
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  Speaker 2: from the same Rolling Stone magazine article as us. Most insidiously,
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  Speaker 2: some conservatives are mounting an argument that recalls Trump's birther
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  Speaker 2: attacks on Barack Obama as they seek to bar Harris
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  Speaker 2: from running for president at all. Kamala Harris is not
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  Speaker 2: eligible to run for president, a twenty twenty election denier
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  Speaker 2: tweeted on Sunday in a post that has garnered thirty
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  Speaker 2: four thousand likes, neither of her parents were naturally born
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  Speaker 2: American citizens when she was born, and, as fact checkers
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  Speaker 2: have been pointing out ever since, the faulsehood gained traction
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  Speaker 2: when Biden selected Harris as is running mate in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 2: Harris was born in Oakland, California. I'm sure again there
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  Speaker 2: will be so much more that comes out from now
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  Speaker 2: until the election day, maybe even after, probably even after.
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  Speaker 2: And we all need to be careful about what we
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  Speaker 2: hear and what misinformation we may or may not be
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  Speaker 2: reading or tweeting or repeating. And I know I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of us Again, no better, but it's sometimes
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  Speaker 2: hard to see, it's sometimes hard to recognize it. Again,
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  Speaker 2: with all the ai that's happening, there's going to be
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  Speaker 2: so much more that comes about. And oddly enough, I
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  Speaker 2: really I feel like I need to because we're not.
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  Speaker 2: As we're slowly wrapping up, there's a weird side where
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  Speaker 2: Fox News is also talking about misinformation and he says,
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  Speaker 2: if there if there was one thing we learned from
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  Speaker 2: the bidenministruation is that the best way to fight misinformation
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  Speaker 2: is with musical numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Oh excellent, I will gather. I will rict to this
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  Speaker 1: musical number post taste.
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  Speaker 2: The writer wrote this song for Fox. It literally the
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  Speaker 2: title is how to fight Democrats devious Kamala Harris, Disinformation
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  Speaker 2: start with a song in your heart. This one says
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna tackle just in somehow how in just two
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  Speaker 2: and a half days, Kamala Harris quote earned the nomination
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  Speaker 2: through a vigorous grassroots and bottoms up effort. He said
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  Speaker 2: he decided to go with the nineteen twenty four classic Casablanca.
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  Speaker 2: It had to be you number. It had to be you.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna sing it, but I'm gonna read
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  Speaker 2: you what he wrote. It had to be Kamala. It
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  Speaker 2: had to be Kamala. The voters be damned, the bosses
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  Speaker 2: demand the poor suckers follow you for nobody else Barack
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  Speaker 2: will obey. So it's Harris all the way. It had
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  Speaker 2: to be Kamala, cackling Kamala.
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  Speaker 1: It had to be her, cackling Kamala. Okay, listen, Samantha,
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  Speaker 1: you know a lot about musicals. I think we can
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  Speaker 1: combat this. I think we can get out in front
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  Speaker 1: of this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh here's another one. There's only three, but I have
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  Speaker 2: to do this one too. And because if you've seen
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  Speaker 2: South Pacific, this is number is very, very popular. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to wash that man right out of my hair,
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  Speaker 2: and you can tell me what you think this is about.
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  Speaker 2: He wrote, I'm going to wash that woke right out
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  Speaker 2: of that my hair. I'm going to wash that woke
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  Speaker 2: right out of my hair. GOV track will erase it,
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  Speaker 2: the media will replace it and push new Kamala through
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  Speaker 2: the door. So there's this whole, I guess all the
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  Speaker 2: fact that they are trying to say that Harris is
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  Speaker 2: not the most liberal, They're.
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  Speaker 1: Really employing a lot of interesting strategies.
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  Speaker 2: And no, I'm like, wait, you didn't like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she's not the most liberal. Why are you thinking that?
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  Speaker 2: Like that's why the leftists are really really really really unhappy,
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  Speaker 2: Like they're settling. A lot of them are like, we're
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  Speaker 2: trying to make sure that the country is stable enough
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  Speaker 2: to make bigger changes. But hey, you do you so
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  Speaker 2: some of these things. I'm kind of because I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's helping the less conservative conservatives and they're
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  Speaker 2: saying this is disinformation. She's really liberal and compared to
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  Speaker 2: the really extreme conservative, yes, and compared to the really
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  Speaker 2: extreme leftist no right. And with that, as we mentioned before,
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  Speaker 2: the actual statistics of the amount of ittue all that
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  Speaker 2: VP Harris has gotten since the endorsement of her being
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  Speaker 2: the new nominee for the Democratic Party, it's not we
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  Speaker 2: don't really know, but what is known is that the
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  Speaker 2: vast amount and the speed of the social media realm
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  Speaker 2: allows for and produces a lot of disinformation and information,
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  Speaker 2: and it's going to keep expanding exponentially, as well as
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  Speaker 2: the fact that she's both a woman and a person
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  Speaker 2: of color, especially a black woman, which we know we've
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  Speaker 2: seen evidence that this is going to be even worse
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  Speaker 2: for her, and it's going to be more disgusting. As
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  Speaker 2: the New York Times article rights, the false claims about
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  Speaker 2: Miss Harris are in many ways echoes of those faced
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  Speaker 2: by her predecessors, but warped and amplified by the Internet's
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  Speaker 2: current structure and delivered with a double barrel dose of
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: toxicity because of Miss Harris's race and gender. In the
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: past week, the Vice President has been targeted online with
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: unfounded questions about her blackness and her eligibility to be president,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: two racist attacks that also followed mister Obama. Those falsehoods
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: were embraced on fringe right wing platform like truth Social
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  Speaker 2: and Rumble, which in recent years have become highly influential
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  Speaker 2: pipelines two mainstream forms with minimal moderation and oversight. And
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: that's the other part that I want to talk about,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: truth Social and Rumble, which has become bigger and bigger.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: We know truth Social is supposedly bankrupt at this point,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: but they're still going with things like that. With the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: fact that Elon Musk is a heavy supporter of Trump,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: talking about he was going to give him money but
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: then backed oubt, okay recently, the fact that he is
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: all this anti quote unquote woke. We know that it's
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: going to get worse, and this is probably the worst
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  Speaker 2: we're going to see in history as of today. Of course,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: it will only continue to be worse, but we also
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: know that with that level of hate, there's also people
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: who will rise up and have risen up to bring truth.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: So that's the good news. But again we have to
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: be really really careful about what we're hearing, what we're seeing,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: and just hold tight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I would also add I've mentioned this before,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes I have friends who are like in my
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: similar wavelength. We generally agree on things, and they'll say,
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  Speaker 1: like I saw this headline and I'm like, okay, explain,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and then you didn't read anything else. So that's fine.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I do that too. Yeah, but like be wary of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: like spreading that as if it is fact, Like look
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: into the complexities, look into it. Like even even organizations
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like AP have recently had to retract things one very infamously.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: But like, just just beware of what you're spreading to people,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: especially if you haven't necessarily dug into it super deep, right,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: because yeah, we can all all of us, even if
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you're aware of this, even if you know about AI,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and even if you know about all of these things,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: you can still read something and think that feels right
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: to me, that sounds right to me. I'm going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: tell someone else that might not be true, right, or
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: might not be the full story exactly.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: And just like you're saying, that article that I just
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: read from Fox News makes it sound like there's actual
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: like it is kind of obviously joking, but at the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: same time, like there must be actual misinformation. Let's see
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: what they're talking about. Wait what Yeah, and there's nothing
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: there except we're trying to say she's woke. Okay, you
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: already said that. That doesn't seem like that's gonna go
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: too far. Uh, And that she miraculously got this bid
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: because of the people she bought out. Like we've heard this,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: it's and so obviously it's not actual helpful information. It's
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: just more narrative to try to feed in the disinformation.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so everyone be vigilant was included in this
• 23:52
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• 23:54
  Speaker 1: is going to be a little bit different than anything
• 23:56
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