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10-13 H2: 12th Man News w/ Gregg Bell, FoF & ABC's · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right. Good morning to you all. We roll into
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  Speaker 1: our 7 o'clock hour here on this Tuesday. Chuck in
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  Speaker 1: the mornings. My name is Chuck Powell. Anders Hurst is here.
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Kidd is here. No infighting. You know, Anders won
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  Speaker 1: fantasy football fair and square. Kidd's not thrown one punch
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  Speaker 1: at him. I mean, he didn't give him the Bradley
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  Speaker 1: Chubb treatment, you know, because he's a sore loser. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Chubb was the victim. You would have been the Bradley
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  Speaker 1: Chubb in this scenario.
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  Speaker 2: No, no.
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  Speaker 1: Kid's a man. Taking it well. That's right. Very well.
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  Speaker 1: Very well.
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  Speaker 3: I think he still has a better team than me,
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  Speaker 3: to be completely honest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. 7 o'clock hour. We've got Greg
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  Speaker 1: Bell coming up here in a couple of moments. We
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  Speaker 1: do have your headlines. They are brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Frostbrood Coors Light. Cold as the Rockies. The Buffalo Bills
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  Speaker 1: in a thriller. 137-34 in overtime over the Los Angeles Rams.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterback porn, I believe Hugh Millen calls it, when Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen and Matt Stafford go at one another. And in
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  Speaker 1: different ways, they were both fantastic. Stafford threw for almost
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  Speaker 1: 400 yards. Allen rushed for well over 100. And the
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills won their first overtime game in the Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen era with a 37-34 win last night in OT.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, Alaric Jackson, an offensive lineman for the Rams
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  Speaker 1: who's oft-troubled, threw a punch at Bradley Chubb after the
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  Speaker 1: game was over, so he's going to be suspended for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Dre Greenlaw was suspended for an extra game after headbutting
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  Speaker 1: Ernest Jones on the sideline. That seems fair. Gene Steratore
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  Speaker 1: is going to join us at 8 o'clock to talk
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  Speaker 1: about many things from a very interesting weekend in football
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  Speaker 1: from an officiating perspective. In other words, there were a
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  Speaker 1: lot of blown calls. Seahawks-Broncos this Thursday. We'll start our
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  Speaker 1: preview with Greg here in a moment. Zach Charbonnet, very
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  Speaker 1: unlikely to play on Thursday, despite the desperate need, it feels,
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  Speaker 1: for a quality running back in the running back room.
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  Speaker 1: College football, Huskies will play on Friday night against the
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  Speaker 1: Purdue Boilermakers. Jeff Fish spoke yesterday, said DeMond Williams, very
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  Speaker 1: unlikely to play. in this game on Friday night. Also
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  Speaker 1: spoke about the payroll issues that they are having, something
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  Speaker 1: that we will discuss at 7.30. I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: should have gone there. Kraken at Philadelphia tonight, 4 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Everett Fitz, you'll join us to talk about that. It
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  Speaker 1: is a Kraken Ticket Tuesday as well, so be listening
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  Speaker 1: every hour for your opportunity to win Kraken tickets. You
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  Speaker 1: know how we do it, and even if you don't,
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  Speaker 1: the sounder that we play later this hour will explain everything.
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  Speaker 1: Sounders taking on Dallas on Wednesday. WNBA finals set to
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  Speaker 1: start on Saturday. The NBA season starts one week from today.
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  Speaker 1: And in Major League Baseball, Milwaukee is up 2-0 against
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  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Dodgers. I almost don't want to mention it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to jinx it. I know. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying anything yet. The NLDS is taking the night off tonight,
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  Speaker 1: so it will be just the ALDS this evening. Guardians
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  Speaker 1: at Tampa. where the Rays were upset by the Guardians
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  Speaker 1: last night. So Cleveland off to a 1-0 start without
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  Speaker 1: having to throw Messick or Gavin Williams. Pretty good start
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  Speaker 1: for Cleveland last night. All right, let's talk to another
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  Speaker 1: Ohio guy. Greg Bell joins us.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, Greg. Morning.
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  Speaker 1: I know that you, okay, Ohio kid. who rooted for
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers. Did you root for the Pirates as well,
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  Speaker 1: or were you Indians?
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  Speaker 2: No, I was Pirates. Pirates. Louis Stardew, Dave Parker, Omar Murray,
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  Speaker 2: one for the thumb, City of Champions, and the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: When I was eight, nine years old, the Pirates won
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  Speaker 2: the World Series the same year the Steelers won the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: 1979. That's right. We are family.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: I was in Ohio, but it was 45 minutes from Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: It was about two and a half hours from Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: My wife's a Clevelander, Browns and Indians season ticket holder
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  Speaker 2: and all of that, and I was a rival.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I see. And yet you still found love. I
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  Speaker 1: had some infighting in the Bell household. Which teams do
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  Speaker 1: the children choose, then?
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  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh our kids are born into terrible towels.
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  Speaker 1: In fact ah there you go i like that in.
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  Speaker 2: Berkeley uh it's easier to be a steeler fan than
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  Speaker 2: a browns fan the most of the last well history
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  Speaker 2: of life.
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  Speaker 1: Really For some reason, I love the We Are Family Pirates.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that was my favorite team growing up, and
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  Speaker 1: my dad hated it because he's a diehard Cardinal fan, and.
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  Speaker 2: He hated it. Yeah, they were in the same division.
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  Speaker 2: They were Oregon before Oregon. The Pirates had like 95
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  Speaker 2: uniform combinations those years.
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  Speaker 1: They had stovepipe hats, basically, that they wore.
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  Speaker 2: They had a flat pillbox hat. They were awesome. They
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  Speaker 2: had the stripes, the stargill stars. I had stargill stars
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  Speaker 2: on my Pirates. I still have the pillbox striped Pirate
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  Speaker 2: hat in my closet.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. It's awesome. Every once in a while, you
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  Speaker 1: go in your backyard and pretend you're Mike the Hitman Eastler.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Eastler, man. That guy was great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Good memory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Madlock.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, the mad dog. Yeah. Choke up on your bat.
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  Speaker 1: You can be Tim Foley. Yeah. Put on your.
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  Speaker 2: Ed Ott. Ed Ott had the shortest name in major
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  Speaker 2: league history. Five letters.
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  Speaker 1: I promise you that you threw wiffle balls like Kent
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  Speaker 1: Ticolvi at one point in your life.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I thought. That's what I thought. All right, well,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk some football, even though I think I could
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  Speaker 1: talk 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates for the entire segment. Uh, we
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  Speaker 1: ought to get into some football.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Anything going to change about this running back room between
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  Speaker 1: now and Thursday? Very short week. I know what Mike
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  Speaker 1: said about Zach Charbonnet Sunday, but any chance at all
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  Speaker 1: that he can get back on the football field? Because
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  Speaker 1: I think Seahawks fans are dying for a different ball carrier.
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  Speaker 2: I know they are. Mike McDonald says no. And the
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  Speaker 2: plan right now is Charbonnet does not play Thursday. I
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  Speaker 2: think he didn't say it, but they're looking toward the
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  Speaker 2: 10-day break after this game when they play Kansas City
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  Speaker 2: 10 days from Denver. And that would be after the
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  Speaker 2: end of his 21-day practice window. His 21-day window ends
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  Speaker 2: on October 22nd. What's that? Well, when you're on the
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  Speaker 2: pup list, when you come back to practice from the
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  Speaker 2: physically unable to perform list, the NFL gives the player
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  Speaker 2: 21 days to before the team decides, okay, is he
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  Speaker 2: ready to play, activate him, let's go, or he's not ready.
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  Speaker 2: And if he's not ready until October 22nd, he has
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  Speaker 2: to go in the pup list for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the season, basically injured reserve. So the expectation is he
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  Speaker 2: will be back by the October 21st date they'll activate
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  Speaker 2: him to the roster, and that would put him in
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  Speaker 2: line to play against Kansas City, but not Denver this week.
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  Speaker 1: So it's Wilson Helani then, or does somebody else, do
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  Speaker 1: we see a Henry on Thursday, or do we see
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  Speaker 1: more Rashid Shaheed, who they did not use at all
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  Speaker 1: as a ball carrier on Sunday?
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  Speaker 2: I asked about Henry yesterday, and he said he's doing well.
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  Speaker 2: It is just an issue of him knowing the game plan,
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  Speaker 2: but he doesn't have to know the entire playbook, no.
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  Speaker 2: So the inference was he's going to be active to play.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see how many carries he gets, but I would
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  Speaker 2: think he would be an option over George Helani of
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  Speaker 2: carrying the ball. Helani is overextended beyond why he's on
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  Speaker 2: the team. He's a special teams player who they like
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  Speaker 2: on third down for pass blocking and receiving. He has
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  Speaker 2: not been very good in pass protection in a couple
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  Speaker 2: games this year, Washington and the Chargers. But he's not
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be a first-down running back running off your
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  Speaker 2: own goal line. That's not why he made the team
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  Speaker 2: out of Boise State a few years ago. I would
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  Speaker 2: think Henry picks up some of those carries. It must
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  Speaker 2: not like Velas Jones Jr., or else he would have
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  Speaker 2: played more than zero snaps on offense the other day.
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  Speaker 2: But let's see if they bring in Henry now. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's taken up a spot on the active roster. It's
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  Speaker 2: not like the elevating from the practice squad or something.
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  Speaker 2: So I would think he's the next man up.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, Mike mentioned in his press conference Sunday night,
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  Speaker 1: now granted he was fuming at the time, but he
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  Speaker 1: said that he started it off by saying not really
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  Speaker 1: any injuries to report. But I do vividly remember JSN
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  Speaker 1: limping on an ankle and Drake Thomas limping on an ankle.
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  Speaker 1: So somebody, there are a few guys that got at
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  Speaker 1: least banged up. What do we know right now on
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  Speaker 1: this short week about any injuries?
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  Speaker 2: Well, not much because they didn't practice yesterday, nor should
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  Speaker 2: they the day after a Sunday game. The NFL makes
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  Speaker 2: them put out a practice. It's for the betters and
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  Speaker 2: the gamblers. They make them put out an injury report
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  Speaker 2: on the Monday. That's an estimation had they practiced. To
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  Speaker 2: tell you a little bit about how I'm like, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: this doesn't mean anything. Drew Locke is on that injury
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  Speaker 2: report as a limited participant had they practiced yesterday. How
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  Speaker 2: did that happen? Drew Locke didn't play. Did he get
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  Speaker 2: injured warming up, throwing on the sideline when he does
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  Speaker 2: in between drives, throwing to a manager? I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: what I saw him do.
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  Speaker 1: One of those horrible clipboard injuries that is plaguing today's youth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, Thomas left the game and came back.
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  Speaker 2: So the implication is that he may be okay. Leonard Williams,
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  Speaker 2: still ankle sore from the Chargers game. Implications, he'll be okay.
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  Speaker 2: Smith and Jagba was, I watched him jab stepping and
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  Speaker 2: trying to loosen his lower leg on the sideline during
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  Speaker 2: the first half, and then he came back to play.
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  Speaker 2: That's the short week stuff that might limit a guy
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  Speaker 2: in practice today. And if those guys I just mentioned
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  Speaker 2: are limited, that would be why. I've mentioned this before,
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  Speaker 2: many game weeks, between Sunday and the following week, guys
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  Speaker 2: aren't really walking right and feeling okay until Thursday. And
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  Speaker 2: then the NFL makes these guys play on Thursday. The
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  Speaker 2: old Doug Baldwin, this blank should be illegal, always comes
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  Speaker 2: into my head from Arizona that night when a lot
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  Speaker 2: of NFL players are not in shape to play who
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  Speaker 2: will end up playing on Thursday night games. There will be,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm just spitballing here, I'd say 40% of the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos and and Seahawks starting lineup should not be playing physically.
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  Speaker 2: They're not ready to, but the NFL, this is what
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  Speaker 2: we demand. This is what people watch. So that's what
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  Speaker 2: they do. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of similar stories. I mean, uh, it's a
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  Speaker 1: short week. So I jumped the gun a little bit
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  Speaker 1: on the matchup with the Denver Broncos here on a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Normally I'll, I'll save those questions for Wednesday, but, um,
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  Speaker 1: I think Denver and Seattle stories are pretty similar, both
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  Speaker 1: high expectations coming into this year and, Both dealt with
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  Speaker 1: injury at quarterback in some way or another. And Bo Nix,
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  Speaker 1: who sat out the entire offseason program, has gotten off
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  Speaker 1: to a little bit of a slow start. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Sam's quite in his rhythm at this point. They
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  Speaker 1: don't have a running back that they trust. We don't
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  Speaker 1: have a running back they trust, that we trust. At
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  Speaker 1: least the fan base doesn't. and here they are on
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  Speaker 1: a short week getting ready to meet at mile high.
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  Speaker 1: I think it just goes to show you, Greg, doesn't it,
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  Speaker 1: that it is a long season, and not everybody's playing
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  Speaker 1: their best football by week number four, five, or six,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that is the case with both of
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  Speaker 1: these teams that are meeting on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Not only that, the NFL legislates it this way. The
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  Speaker 2: Broncos and Seahawks are both playing first-place schedules. The Broncos
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  Speaker 2: have played the Chiefs, the Jaguars, who have one loss,
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  Speaker 2: the Rams, the 49ers. Their only soft touch was last
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  Speaker 2: week at the Chargers, a winless Charger team, and they
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  Speaker 2: struggled to beat them 23-7.
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  Speaker 1: Even that was supposed to be a good team this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right. Yeah. So, this is... And the AFC West
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  Speaker 2: is probably, along with the NFC West, the two toughest
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  Speaker 2: divisions in the NFL. So, yeah, they're a victim of
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  Speaker 2: that as well.
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  Speaker 5: And.
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  Speaker 2: that's what the NFL legislates. That's why it's so hard
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  Speaker 2: to repeat. You don't play the saints every week when
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  Speaker 2: you have a, when a division previous year. So this
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  Speaker 2: is not an easy way to begin a season because
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  Speaker 2: the NFL wants it this way so that the teams
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  Speaker 2: that were out in front last year get pulled back
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  Speaker 2: to the pack and they're three and two in, in October.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if they had been playing the Browns and
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  Speaker 2: the saints for four or five weeks, they'd be undefeated. That's,
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  Speaker 2: That's some of what's going on with both these teams. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks' issues, the Broncos, by the way, McDonnell wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: like to talk about it. Every year, no matter what
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  Speaker 2: Bo Nix or whoever the quarterback is, they are very
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  Speaker 2: active on defense. They're aggressive. They dictate the offense. Your
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  Speaker 2: offensive line has to pick up things from Denver. That's
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  Speaker 2: what's going to be, in a short week, a challenge
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  Speaker 2: this week for the Seahawks, is a very active, aggressive,
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  Speaker 2: blitzing Denver defense that shows a lot of different looks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. That's another thing they have in common.
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  Speaker 1: They're both defense-first teams as well, and they're both 3-2
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  Speaker 1: at this point in the year. This was a game
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, Greg, that everybody had
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  Speaker 1: circled like, okay, we're going to lose that one. People
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  Speaker 1: with their pocket schedules, that's one we're going to lose
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  Speaker 1: right there. They were 3-2 the Seahawks a year ago
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  Speaker 1: at this time. There can't be any sign of desperation
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  Speaker 1: that This Thursday night game is crucial to the way
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  Speaker 1: that the season's going to unfold. You're not getting that sense,
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  Speaker 1: are you, from the building?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: And even if they lose, I don't think it'll be
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  Speaker 2: that way. 3-3 with 11 more games to go. What
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  Speaker 2: feels different this year, Chuck, compared to last year, is
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  Speaker 2: they don't have a running game they can rely on.
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  Speaker 2: This time last year, they felt pretty good about their
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  Speaker 2: offensive line, the outside zone, and the job share, basically,
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  Speaker 2: between Ken Walker and Zach Charbonnet. We can produce. We
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  Speaker 2: can dictate the defense's field position. We can get in
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  Speaker 2: short third downs because of our running game. You can't
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  Speaker 2: say that now. And it's a bunch of schmoes that
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  Speaker 2: are running the ball, basically, for them. It's just they
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  Speaker 2: don't trust them. I saw it firsthand watching that game
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  Speaker 2: in the press box on Sunday. They don't trust their
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  Speaker 2: running backs to rely on them. They're relying on Sam Darnold,
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  Speaker 2: who's thrown five interceptions in three games and has really
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  Speaker 2: looked spotty in his short passing game, throwing just blanketed
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  Speaker 2: receivers for interceptions the last two games. That's, to me,
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  Speaker 2: the root problem of not just the offense but the team.
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  Speaker 2: A team that wants to dictate and be physical and
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  Speaker 2: aggressive on offense through its running game doesn't trust its
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  Speaker 2: running game, and that's a problem. Is Zach Charbonnet going
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  Speaker 2: to be the knight on a white horse that comes
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  Speaker 2: in and saves him? Well, that doesn't look like that's
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  Speaker 2: going to even happen until about 14, 16 days from now.
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  Speaker 2: So here we go. Can they get through another game
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  Speaker 2: of fighting some running game with the hodgepodge of running
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  Speaker 2: backs that they have? It's just the Kenneth Walker decision.
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  Speaker 2: I know exactly why they did it. We don't need
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  Speaker 2: to revisit it again, but it's biting them. And their
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  Speaker 2: plan was Jadarian Price. or bust, and so far it's
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  Speaker 2: been bust because Price isn't even on the roster right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we'll also see. I mean, yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 1: long year. We'll see if Ken Walker can take the
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  Speaker 1: workload that he's taken on in Kansas City, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: also see how good this running back room will look
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  Speaker 1: when it really does matter. Maybe it looks a lot
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  Speaker 1: better with Charbonnet and Price healthy being your number one
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  Speaker 1: and two running back at that point. So let's let
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  Speaker 1: it play out. What do you say? What do you say,
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks fans who are panicking somehow? after five games let's
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  Speaker 1: let this thing play out and in mike and john
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  Speaker 1: maybe we should trust a little bit don't you think
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  Speaker 1: well i i get.
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  Speaker 2: It because they're a super bowl champion yeah who's lost
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  Speaker 2: twice already which is two times more than they lost
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  Speaker 2: the previous 10 months and the other thing about the
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  Speaker 2: nfl unlike baseball there's not another game well in this
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  Speaker 2: case for four days So what's a Seahawks fan to do?
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  Speaker 2: Just go to bed for four days? He's got to
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  Speaker 2: worry about something, right? They just lost.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: If they played tonight, then they'd be fine. So that's
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  Speaker 2: also the nature of the league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And look, and I get it. The Walker
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  Speaker 1: thing keeps me up, for goodness sake. He just looks fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: There's no question about it. And maybe it will haunt
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the team for the rest of its life, rest of
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: its existence. We shall see. All right, what do you
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: have planned on the show today at 10 o'clock?
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Our buddy Jory Epstein is going to join us from
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: New York, the senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports, to
• 17:41
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• 17:44
  Speaker 2: caught her eye from this past weekend and what she's
• 17:47
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• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if I would poke the bear
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: of Husky fans to talk about the DeMond Williams situation.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, you can poke.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: It's interesting. It is interesting to say the least to
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: the quarterback. That left that they wooed to come back,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: they forced to come back, and threatened to sue to
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: come back, suddenly isn't playing if it's injury-related or if
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: it's performance-related or what. Hugh Mellon, I heard say, tell
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: you yesterday, this is a full-blown quarterback controversy to him
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: on whether Williams should even start.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Yep. All right. We'll tune in at 10 o'clock. Thank you, sir.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: We appreciate it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday. Thank you.
• 18:30
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• 18:40
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• 18:44
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• 18:46
  Speaker 1: pick today. Also, yeah, we'll poke a little bit at
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: UW because there was another thing, not quarterback-related, that Jed
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Fish said at his press conference yesterday, which... I don't
• 18:59
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  Speaker 1: is my pick today. We could really use a heater
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. I think we all could. Sounds like
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: everybody could. We need to rebuild our reps around here.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I do want to let you know that Tulalip Resort Casino,
• 19:31
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  Speaker 1: Loved the room. Honestly, like, Anders, I know you experienced
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. I was like, I did not want
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  Speaker 1: to leave. I'm like, I want to stay here for
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: another night. Like we actually, I know we didn't do work.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It's not like we toiled. It's not like we dug ditches. Sure.
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  Speaker 1: But I spent all of my Thursday getting, helping, you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: our sales guy get the room ready for the Hugh talk.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And next thing you know, you know, it's time to
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: go to bed. And then we get up and do
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the show. And I'm like, man, I really would have
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: loved to stretch my legs and enjoyed the entire hotel experience.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to make sure that I do that soon.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: And I think that our listeners should do that as well.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I totally agree.
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  Speaker 3: And It's something that I think can be said about
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: how great of an experience we had. My wife, while
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: we were doing that stuff, had to venture around the area,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: and she said she loved it. As someone who's not
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: a huge sports fan, not a huge gambler, there's something
• 20:38
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• 20:39
  Speaker 1: More of everything. Well, that Austin, he's an addict, though.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: He is. We couldn't get him away from the roulette table. Yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I'm his bookie.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: He tells me exactly who to bet on, and I
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: do it for him.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: He put a milk bottle on seven black. Yeah, not
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the milk bottle. That's a little too valuable for him.
• 20:57
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• 20:59
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Well, before we get to fact or fiction, let's talk
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit about the other thing that Jed Fish
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: said at his press conference yesterday. And I'm just going
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to qualify this by saying this is nothing new. Jed
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: has repeated this. He said it throughout the offseason. He
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: said at the beginning of this year. So this isn't
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like he's just pulled an excuse. We're not playing well,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to pull an excuse that we just
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: don't have enough money to get the top players. He
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: said before the season even started, we're not close where
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: we need to be on our roster cost scale. It's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: much lower than elite programs in the Big Ten Conference. Okay,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I understand that. But I also said in an interview
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: with him at the beginning of the year, before the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: season began, DeMond Williams sitting in front of me, Jed
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Fish sitting in front of me, I said, can I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: expect you to be great this year? Is there any
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: reason why you shouldn't be great this year? And they
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: both assured me, absolutely. We're going to be great this year.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: You know, Demond's going to take that next step, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the program's ready to win at a higher level. And
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: there were no excuses given. I gave them the opportunity. Now,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I know I'm there, and I'm the flagship, and they
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: want to say, like, you know, rah-rah things, I'm sure.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But I'll listen to that argument at the end of
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the year when you've gone 9-3 and just missed the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: playoffs because the committee didn't choose you. Like, if you
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: want us to compete with the Oregons, Ohio State's Of
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the world, USC's of the world, we need more money.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: If you want us to take that next step, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear it, Anders, after six lousy games
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and a blowout loss against Iowa. I don't even want
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to hear it in the press conference. Like, well, we
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: can't be competitive. Now suddenly we can't be competitive. Until
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: we get more money and higher cost payroll and players,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: we can't be competitive now? No, that I will not tolerate.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially when the people that would end up
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: paying for that is your fan base, right? That you're
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: trying to sell them on this product and it has
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: not been a good product and that you're going to
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: ask for more money in return because that's what you
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: need to do to compete. And I get that's the
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: world of college football now, college sports, I should say.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I also feel like there's a severe lack of I
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: don't want to say accountability because you do see some,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: but he likes to kind of look for anything else
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: to blame other than himself, right? He talks about the
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: execution of the players. He talks about the money of
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: the NIL program. We need better players. There's not a, hey,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: we need to do better at play calling. We need
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: to do this kind of stuff to get our players
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: more involved. So I don't know. It's not the right
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: message that I think should be sent at this time
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: of the year after a disappointing start.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It's a perfectly legitimate thing to bring up when you
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: have just fallen short of your goals. I don't want
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to hear it when you are nowhere close. You certainly
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: have enough talent to be competitive. and you have not
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: been here in the last... Well, that's not true. They
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: were competitive against USC. But you were not on Friday,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to hear that as a reason
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: why we're not in the mix. I mean, now we
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: are moving goalposts here as a program. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: I know you like to get the pick. And then
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: if you want to hear my reasoning, I'll give it afterwards.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So it's my pick for Factor Fiction. I'm going to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: go to the Sunday night game. It's not going to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: make Tony Kidd happy. I know that much. Sorry, Dad.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I know that's going to fall flat. But I'm going
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to take the Green Bay Packers at home, giving one
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: point to the Dallas Cowboys. So in essence, a pick-em.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: For two teams who are coming off of completely different
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: experiences from the previous week. Green Bay finally got its...
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: stuff going jordan love was fantastic against the bears defense
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that had been playing well and the dallas cowboys and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: their questionable defense could not have looked worse against jaylen
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: daniels and the tampa bay buccaneers and i just have
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a hard time chalking that up to one team wasn't
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: hyped enough or one team was really hyped at home
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: against the chicago bears I got to believe that the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Cowboys have some real issues, not just intangible. We weren't
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: focused issues, but we still don't have a good defense issue.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And Green Bay, I think. cured a lot of the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: things that had been ailing them. And I got to
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: believe there's some value to momentum. I got to believe
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: there's some value in the sports world to, oh, we
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: might have turned a corner where, man, we can't turn
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: that corner. And that's the two teams that are going
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: to be represented on Sunday night. So you're going to
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: give me a pick them with two, I think, very
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: comparable talent rosters and one team coming off their best
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: performance and one team coming off their worst performance. It's
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: not like Green Bay is going to sit back and say, Oh,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: we've achieved everything we sought to achieve. We beat the Bears.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: They're not going to just rest on their laurels at
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: home on Sunday night. Bottom line, the Packers are moving
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: in the right direction. The Cowboys are moving in the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: wrong direction. And Dallas has time to turn that around.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: But I don't think they're going to do it in
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: time for Sunday night against Green Bay in that atmosphere.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: So give me the Packers minus one. I like it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Jordan Love looked fantastic against a good, like at least
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: playing well Bears defense this past weekend.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So I agree. I think they have turned a corner.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: They're at home.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Cowboys don't keep trying to find answers defensively and can't
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: find them. So I do think the floor love combo
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: is going to have a field day with those guys.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I like to pick. Give me Green Bay minus one
• 27:37
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• 27:40
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• 27:43
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  Speaker 1: 93.3 KJRFM. I don't mean to keep picking at this scab.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost healed. I got my way. I
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: got it. I'm going to have a new manager next year,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: which was my W is for wish for the off season.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: But man, I am just watching these pitching changes made
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: by these managers and especially the four remaining. And, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: trust me when I tell you, I mean, they don't have,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: none of these teams have a roster full of Mariana Rivera. No,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: they do not. They started with the same pool of
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: hundred mile per hour throwers that we did at the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: beginning of the year when people thought that the Mariners
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: had a really good bullpen when the season got underway.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they've probably stayed healthier than what the Mariners did.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: We lost Brash. That was a big component. They've stayed healthier.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: To have them healthy at this point of the season
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: is a big difference. But the way that these four
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: managers use there, it seems so foreign. And yet it
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: seems so easy. Why is this so hard? Why was
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: this so hard for Dan? I'll bet you, Anders, I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: agreed at the end of a game, and I probably
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: watched 155 Mariners games this year. I was trying to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: think about it last night. Did I come out of
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: 10 games feeling like.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: He managed the bullpen well?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And yet I'm not sure between these four teams if
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I've had But one or two, like, hmm, I don't
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: know if I'd do that moments, play an armchair manager
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: along with everybody else. For the most part, and especially
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Pat Murphy, it's like, ugh. Man, that is perfection. Yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem that hard to figure out to me. No,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: it's not.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: And I think it's like we talked about many times.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: It's the marrying of, hey, we we see the data
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: on how this matchup goes, but we also see how
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: the pitcher is doing and we see how he's getting
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: out of things and. oh, he's been hit hard the
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: last couple of times. Let's think about pulling him out.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Like there's a marriage of both of these ways of thinking.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: And I think everyone that's left has a really good
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: way of kind of doing that and putting those two
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: thought processes together. And I totally agree with you. I
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: think there was many times and it's not just like, hey,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I fully agree with it or I fully disagree with
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: it with the Dan Wilson decisions. There were times where
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: it's like, I can at least see, okay, that's defensible.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it, but I can see what you
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: were thinking.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: There were countless times where I'm like, what is the
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: thought process here?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: The most I've ever... That's crossed my mind in a
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: baseball season in my entire life. Seriously. The most amount
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: of like, this is the move right now? I don't think...
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I think he went sideways early on and he didn't
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: know whether to scratch his watch or wind his ass.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I really do. I've never heard that term before. Yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I think that he just got sideways with it and
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: never did figure out. And I'm sure he was given
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: all sorts of like analytical instruction beforehand and I'm sure
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Jerry had some advice, and I'm sure Justin had some.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he had all sorts of people in his ear,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and he just never could get into a rhythm with
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: how to make pitching changes. And to the point where
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I got to the end of the year, I'm like,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: maybe I've been too hard on him. Once he gets fired,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: then you start having sympathy. Maybe I've been too hard
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: on him. Maybe there are many defensible decisions along the way.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: But then you start watching the elite managers in the game,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and I would say that the four managers remaining in
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the playoffs are the four best in the game right now.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: And you're like, you are making this look easy. And
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: they haven't always been easy decisions. Roberts had to take
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yamamoto out after two and a third innings yesterday. And
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would have done that. That was
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: one of those, like, I don't think I'd do that.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I'd have faith in Yamamoto right now. But that's one
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: of the few times I'm like, Man, I don't like
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that move. But Pat Murphy's just like nailing it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And Stephen Vogue's just nailing it right now. And so
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: it is doable. And there are some other elements to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it that I would love to get into. Maybe we
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: don't have time right now. But just the way that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: these four teams, and only one of them has a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: high payroll, just the way that they play the game,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: there are so many things. that the 2027 Mariners, I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: want to see them adapt and adopt from the four
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: remaining teams. Now we're not going to spend the money
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: like the Dodgers, no matter what kind of collective bargaining
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: agreement we have, but just, I'm not saying that you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: pattern yourself after the Brewers, Razor, Guardians, but there are
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: so many things about the way that they play that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I'd like to steal. Like, I like that about you.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I like that about you. I like that about you.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And I would like those to be infused and incorporated
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: into the mess that that we watched this past season
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: by the time 2027 arrives. And we'll have that conversation
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: at some point. We just don't have it right now. Unfortunately,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: we are forced into this role of being watchers on
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the wall. All right, Gene's next. Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.