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Week 15 Add, Drop, Hold + Master of None Sanheim | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  What's that wrong? I don't know.
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  I just made that up. Yeah, I feel like that that's
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  Anyways, obeying your management fantasy hockey podcast.
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  last episode without Josh, so I'm pretty excited to get him
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  I didn't double room, but I'm excited too.
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  We miss you, Josh. OK, so Ben Vindo, Al Bangor
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  management all podcast subway Hoke de Fantasia.
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  The box is anyway it was Portuguese.
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  Yeah, all our hockey fans in Portugal.
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  You're welcome. Mr. Worldwide, Mr. Worldwide OK,
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  so welcoming everyone to Bangor management, the fantasy hockey
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  podcast with Jake and Kevork. Today we're going to be doing
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  our add, hold drop episode and we are recording as of week 13.
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  So we're each going to be suggesting.
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  What what you said a week 13? I knew it the week of January
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  13th. This is.
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  New so you gotta co-host. That's why I'm here.
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  Yes, thank you. Thank you.
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  So this is as of the week of January 13th.
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  We're going to work on that. You get the point.
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  It's contemporary. All your fault, you're going to
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  work on it. Fine, it will be worked on.
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  We're a team. OK.
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  Yeah, it's OK. Fair.
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  And you, it's relevant for when you're listening to it, when
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  it's going to be released. Well, that's the important part.
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  So we're each going to be suggesting one player to add, 1
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  to hold and one to drop. And why this is relevant in some
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  leagues where there the other managers are hard to trade with.
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  So essentially, yeah, you know, you want to be able to work with
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  the managers in your league. Sometimes that's difficult.
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  So make your own way. This can be helpful in that
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  case. There's no official requirements
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  for this. It could be any player we
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  believe is worth an ad that's available, Mostly anyone worth a
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  hold even if he's underperforming in a player that
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  you may be rostering for name value or because of a hot
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  streak, but that's not worth holding onto anymore.
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  This is mainly focused on Bangor category leagues, but it's can
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  certainly be relevant for points as well.
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  We appreciate it. So we are doing this Josh list
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  this week. So we're just going to do some
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  some ads, holds and drops ourselves.
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  So Kevin starts off with yours. Yep.
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  I think the main disclaimer, I mean, you mentioned just just
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  now, but I think one of the things that keep in mind is it's
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  really hard to provide exactly 100% advice for all the
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  different types of leagues out there, different sizes,
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  different categories, different points, everything.
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  So we're really trying to kind of like what's what's the saying
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  like throw a wide cast, a wide net type of thing?
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  Is that the thing that just make that up?
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  I don't know. I, I, I got the idea.
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  But like, yeah, we're, we're trying to make it as relevant as
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  possible for. Everybody, that's absolutely.
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  But I think the main thing is when we're giving her, as we're
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  giving our drops and holds is really gonna depend on the size
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  of your league. So trying to stay as relevant as
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  possible. But my ad for right now is Tyler
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  Bertuzzi of the Chicago Blackhawks.
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  Yeah, sorry. Carry on.
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  No, I don't know. I don't know.
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  I was going to make a joke. We could probably, you could
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  probably cut it out. I would be like vaccinated
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  question mark. Oh my God.
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  Not to get political, but yeah, anyway.
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  OK. Bertuzzi, I mean, listen, I
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  don't know how long this is gonna last as an ad, but ever
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  since he got bumped up to line one power play one playing with
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  Connor Bedard, he's been nuts. He's been producing at a way
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  higher rate than what is roster percentage is like his roster.
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  He's available in over 80% of leagues right now and he's
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  producing at a way higher rate than that over the last month.
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  He's at 0.85 points per game in deeper leagues.
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  He's like, this is the type of guy you stream and you're you're
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  thrilled because he's completely dominating your matchups.
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  The only caveat is Chicago's been known to really change
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  their lines up. Maybe that was with previous
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  coaching staff, more than recent coaching staff feel they've been
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  looking for alignment for Bedard, a consistent line made
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  for Bedard the whole season. And, and I mean, listen, over
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  the last month, Bertuzzi has been that guy and he's been
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  solid. So I think as of right now, he's
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  a clear AD and he's producing at a really high rate for your
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  fantasy team streaming. Walley's hot.
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  I wouldn't. He's the type of player that as
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  long as he has the deployment, I'm looking to hold him because
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  he's putting up shots, he's putting up points.
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  So that's really what I'm going with right now.
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  But obviously it's subject to change.
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  If you see deployment change, his gets bumped offline.
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  One, he's not playing with art anymore.
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  I think his value really decreases at that point.
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  So really keep that in mind. But if he's still there, he's
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  must be on your roster for him deeply.
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  Yeah, well said. You know, but Bedard is the the
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  pedigree of talent that you think that anyone playing with
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  him is gonna benefit. So if it's working with
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  Bertuzzi, then they want to make it work.
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  If that lasts, you're golden. I really like it as an ad Yeah,
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  I think it could definitely be a a restless season hold depending
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  on how things go. And it's all signs are pointing
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  in the right direction. So it's a really good one.
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  Let's move on to mine. I'm pretty happy with this one.
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  So this is Jackson Lacombe from the Anaheim Ducks.
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  It this is honestly a subtle flex cause I just added him in
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  our main league but yeah he's been awesome.
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  OK, OK. .79 points per game last month, .14 power play points,
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  2.5 shots and 1.21.21 blocks. So he's a defenseman, right?
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  That's relevant for later on in the story.
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  This is in the story. This is great production and his
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  minutes have been up there, especially over the last two
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  weeks. He's only owned 27% of leagues,
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  but I think this number can climb pretty quickly, especially
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  if he stays on the Ducks power play 1 and it seems like he's
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  gonna do that. Six points in his last seven
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  games and overlap span he's only gone one game without a point.
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  Definitely worth an add in mid to deep points and bangers
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  leagues. So looping around to the
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  important detail from before. I didn't even know this, but he
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  used to be a forward and now they're trying to make it work.
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  Defensemen. Yeah, I feel like if you like a
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  lot of people, if you don't really have the context for the
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  player like you, you would have no idea about this, right?
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  But he's he was a forward that they're playing at defensemen.
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  So you really see a lot of offensive minded, offensive
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  minded plays from him. That's why I think he's so he's
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  been so prolific as a defenseman in terms of his offensive
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  capabilities. He's still learning the game how
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  to play defensively properly, which I guess is why maybe he's
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  not the best in real life defenseman, but we don't care
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  about that. We care about fantasy.
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  And if he's on PS1 Anaheim team as a forward playing the power
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  play quarterback, I mean, he could be really valuable.
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  And also like to note, the only competition he has for that P1
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  would be like Zellweger or Michkov.
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  And both are scratches every other game at this point.
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  So I think Lacombe is really exciting right now.
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  He's kind of the type of player you don't really see often in
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  fantasy right there, like a forward displaying ad.
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  So I mean, he's hot right now. He's producing.
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  Time to roll. The last time I could remember
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  this happening was like 6-7 years ago when Brent Burns made
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  that swap and he I mean. Yeah.
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  I mean, we're not getting ahead of ourselves.
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  He's not Brent Burns. No, but I'm just saying if it
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  works, it works. And for fantasy specifically, as
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  you mentioned, it's very exciting.
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  So yeah, you gotta add him, and if he keeps this up, you're very
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  happy. Yeah, exactly.
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  Now bonus transaction. Yeah, So this is, we're calling
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  this a bonus hold for for this week.
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  This is gonna be Josh's hold, if you will.
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  But we heard from one of our listeners, shout out to Clear
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  Spirits, and he mentioned Michael Grandland.
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  And he's absolutely right. He's totally old.
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  He's still on line one power play one, but only has three
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  points in his last 10 games, which is quite disappointing.
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  We did expect some regression from his scorching pace at the
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  beginning of the year, but not for him to slow down this much.
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  His category covers also dipped quite a bit, but we can expect
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  that to turn around for sure. His minutes have still been
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  really great and I think the fact that the deployment hasn't
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  changed despite the slowdown is a sign of good things to come
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  moving forward. They're completely agree.
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  So should I clear spirits for the the great suggestion and and
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  yeah, Grantland definitely hold. I mean, this San Jose team is
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  gonna have a it's ups and downs, but he's firmly in a top six
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  role on P1. Like you don't really drop guys
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  that have that deployment. Yeah, exactly.
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  So it turns out that me mentioning someone earlier was a
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  segue from the gods. So Kevin, I didn't even know
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  that it was. There is really.
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  No, I just didn't know. Wow.
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  Brilliant. OK, so take it away.
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  Well, Jake is trying to insinuate is my hold is Brent
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  Burns. Now, listen, there's a lot of
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  contact associated with this one because I, as a fellow person
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  that just picked up Brent Burns last week with the ghost injury,
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  wasn't too thrilled, right? Because listen, he's been
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  rostering over 50% of leagues most of the year and he really
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  hasn't been living up to that level of of roster percentage.
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  The main thing is he's not P1. And that really hinders his
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  value because he's not really getting you many defensive
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  categories, right? Like he's not a huge blocker.
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  He's mostly gonna get you shots and some points production.
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  But if he's not a PP1, he's not really getting any points
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  production. But Shane Gossiper gets hurt and
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  then we're like, we're all very excited about no.
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  Brent Burns finally get his opportunity to be a fantasy stud
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  and then Rob Brendan were placed Ty Smith as a P1 and we all get
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  deflated. And if you picked up Brent Burns
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  disappointed, you maybe already dropped him.
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  But I'm here to tell you that if you haven't dropped them yet, I
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  would say hold on just a little longer because as of this
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  morning we saw Brent Burns practicing on PP1.
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  Now if he's practicing on PP1 while Gaspare is hurt, he
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  becomes honestly potentially a league winner for the amount of
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  stretch to Gaspars hurt. But that's what I'm saying.
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  You need to have the context because we know that this can
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  change. He wasn't the go to guy right
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  away, so you have to keep that in mind.
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  But if he's the power play, one quarterback for the Carolina
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  Hurricanes, one of the best power plays in the league, I
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  mean, he's gotta be a roster roster on your team.
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  So that's what that's what I'm saying.
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  If you have already dropped them, try picking them up again.
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  But I'm just encouraging you to hold and see what happens.
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  And then if it doesn't, it doesn't get P1, you just drop
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  them. That's kind of where it's at.
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  But if he does get P1 and you drop them, you're going to be
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  devastated because somebody else is going to take them and you're
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  gonna miss out. Yeah, I like it a lot.
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  And yeah, so for my hold this week, I have Thomas Hurdle.
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  He's still power play one in line 2 currently though.
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  He's playing left wing, so if you're in a face off league
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  that's certainly been inconvenient.
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  But yeah, his shots and his hits over the past month have been
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  2.42 and 1.33 respectively. And the .75 blog blogs per game
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  is pretty nice too. He's also averaging pretty solid
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  minutes overall and the opportunity is still there.
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  But sadly, the poisonous haven't come for him lately.
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  He's on a 0.65 points pace this season and he was on .7 last
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  year. So his current pace of .42 over
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  the past month has been, you know, and the honestly, it's
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  abysmal over the past two weeks to .33.
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  That's going to positively regress.
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  And I think, yeah, with his deployment and how great of a
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  team Vegas is, you could probably expect .65 to .8.
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  It's a pretty big range, but I think it's going to land within
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  their rest of the season. So yeah, I'd want to hold them.
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  Yeah, I think that's a good call as well.
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  I think he has great deployment. He's on a great team.
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  We see players like this come and go in there in their
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  production. But I mean he set up for success
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  being in that Vegas P1 and I would really wanna be dropping
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  somebody that has that kind of deployment.
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  Yeah, exactly. That's it.
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  So let's move on to the drops, Kevin.
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  All right, my drop, I don't know if it's going to be
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  controversial or not, but it is a 72% owned defenseman for the
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  Philadelphia Flyers. Travis Sanheim.
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  I think for what he's producing, he is rostered in way too many
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  leagues. He averages about 0.3 points per
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  game, which is honestly is like literally nothing and less than
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  two shots per game, less than two hits per game, less than two
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  blocks a game. So for me, in my mindset with
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  how I like to build my teams, I like my defensemen to be a
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  specialist and something if they're not going to be getting
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  points, like you're not getting any points, at least give me a
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  lot of hits, a lot of blocks or a lot of shots.
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  So Sondheim is really master of none and doesn't get you points.
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  So I really feel that roster that 72% in leagues is way too
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  high for somebody that you can probably stream better
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  production off waivers. I mean, I'd much rather stream
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  the hot defenseman is getting points or just got a better
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  deployment or, you know, a blocks or hit specialists.
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  And that impacts my fantasy team way more than just holding a guy
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  that's gonna get me one of each and no points, right?
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  So that's really what it comes down to.
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  Obviously, depends how shallow your league is.
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  If you're in a really, really, really deep league, I mean,
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  maybe you can reconsider. It really depends on what your
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  alternatives are. But I think in most leagues you
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  can probably get better production on the waivers than
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  what Travis Sanheim is offering you.
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  I agree, I think it's one of those like really good real life
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  defence pin that just it's so sporadic how it translates to
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  fantasy that I'm just not excited about it.
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  Even when he had that really hot 2-3 weeks there, I wasn't
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  tempted to pick him up in any of my leagues.
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  Did it last year. He burned me then so.
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  Yeah, defenseman, it really just depends on OK, what's your power
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  play deployment? Because if you're a top tier,
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  the fantasy defenseman, you're gonna be on PS1, that's not
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  really the case for him. And then if you're not on P1,
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  you're a different archetype of defenseman where you're really
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  good at like, you know, hits, blocks, some shots.
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  And he's not really in that archetype either, right?
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  So he's kind of in the middle ground.
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  He's not really doing anything for your team, especially where
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  it just really makes sense for your team to pick up somebody
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  else. So basically you're saying he
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  sucks at everything? I'm saying he's below average at
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  everything. No, it's I agree though, I mean
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  it is what it is with him is just one of those guys that's
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  like sort of a master of none and he has his weeks for his
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  relevant. Other than that, don't get too
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  excited about it and you could safely drop him.
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  And that concludes our AD whole drop episode for this.
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  You do not even give your. Drop Ji know I just really don't
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  want to say it because it brings me so much pain to do so.
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  Ah OK, so my job for this week and I really hate it.
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  I really, really do. But it has to be said, it's Luke
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  Hughes. This hurts big time.
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  And you know, the unfortunate part about this is that I really
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  think he's such an elite talent. Clearly, you know, 4th overall
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  Hughes, brother, amazing college degree.
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  Degree. What amazing college careers.
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  Parents know what he's studied. I have no idea.
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  Anyway, you just really wish you were a huge brother or.
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  Parent gotcha. Pause for applause.
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  Anyway, so yeah, this is an elite talent as an offensive
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  defenseman, but he is not going to crack that power play one
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  this year barring an injury to Hamilton.
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  Even though he's capable of amazing stretches to play for
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  four to five games, you're not going to get the consistency.
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  Very sad, especially in a bangers league.
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  He doesn't do anything except shoot and it's very tough to
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  roster a guy with, you know, such all over the place
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  production if there are no peripherals or back categories
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  to back it up. And you always got to keep them
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  on your watch list because of course, if you ever does crack
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  that power play one, I think you could do a lot better with it
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  this year than you did last year.
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  He's going to be a superstar one day, but at this stage, he can't
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  be occupying a roster spot and not getting you anything.
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  So yeah, no fire emoji after this sad, sad drop
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  recommendation. No wolves either.
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  Solemn. Noose, let's see how it is.
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  But yeah, I mean, listen, I completely agree.
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  I think he's been one of those players that can't be roster
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  build the whole season. So he still Ross and almost 50%
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  of leagues. I mean, that's too high.
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  He's really not getting you anything for he's not
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  contributing in any way for your fantasy team besides some shots
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  and the odd point here and there.
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  But that's not the type of player that you can hold.
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  He he's held, he's held specifically for name value at
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  this point. If he ever got people one and
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  Hamilton got hurt, then obviously completely different
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  conversation. But for the moment you can't
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  hold on that on that promise. So yeah, he's a drop.
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  Don't feel bad about it. Pick up anybody else and you'll
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  be better off. Yeah, and and this OK, I I just
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  need to spin this positively in some way or another.
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  This isn't for this is not a dynasty podcast nor this is this
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  a dynasty recommendation. But if you are in a dynasty
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  league and you hold Luke Hughes, don't sell them like Quinn
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  Hughes at this point in his career was not the Quinn Hughes
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  of today. Luke Hughes is going to be
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  great. It's just they have another
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  bonafide superstar defenseman Dougie Hamilton on that power
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  play one. This is a competing team right
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  now. They don't care to develop their
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  players. I mean, Luke Hughes is
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  developing just by playing, but they're not putting an emphasis
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  on crafting him to be like their guy this year.
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  They just don't need that from him.
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  So fortunately, that means it's a drop in redraft and it is what
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  it is. But, you know, I hope by this
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  time next year he's easy, 100% held in like 90 plus percent of
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  leagues. I just don't see that being the
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  case this year. So yeah, you could.
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  You could draw them. Or now that wraps it up for this
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  episode of a drop hold. Yeah, anyway, thank you to
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  everybody for joining us. If you enjoyed the show, make
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