Latest / Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr. / Mike Todd on Trauma, Marriage, Faith & Healing, The Truth About Triggers

Transcript

Mike Todd on Trauma, Marriage, Faith & Healing, The Truth About Triggers · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had to put, I had to, I brought it specifically for my brother, for the word, it's so good to see.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love you, man, love you too, how you feel?
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen, I was going to, I said, I'm gonna go, I said, I know, yeah, this is what you do.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where mine is, hey, you look good, I'm blessed man, how you doing, I'm doing great.
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: you outside
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: you better be back home by the time I said I'm home.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Did you shoot the video to the other record?
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: The, which was down there, kind of the career being down there.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not you.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we, on you, we just finished.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got, it's coming out.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I about to show you.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: You remember that?
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I remember that.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was going on big dog.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a vibe, bro.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got a great message on Sunday.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, thank you, bro.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love you, man.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there it goes.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Dwight, you awesome.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Whitney, why does Dwight have come back to Tulsa?
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what?
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just didn't know, I mean, you've been back several times.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, you know, I don't know if the Lord.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what?
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't know, I'm not exactly sure of it.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's cute.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: He liked it for doosers.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like one of them.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I know.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: His daughter just got married.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, I know.
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, God's blessed him at a place where he should be able to like this.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's somewhere.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said we're even like you don't see it.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know what.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: In December, when I came in in the world and tell me he was there.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: So wait, time out.
• 3:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whoa, I got a text.
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: This y'all was leaving, like, hey, you just wanted to let you know how you're going to tell us.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: So let's funny to your story.
• 3:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 3:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Did you're giving away shoes on stage and you're like, who want shoes?
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, I do, I'm going to release it.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Put your hand in.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Put your hand in.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: Put your hand in.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, sorry, my friends.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my, okay, okay, my.
• 3:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: But that's my brother's, I love you, boy.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I glory the God, bond.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, thank you.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, thank you.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know, I'm still, can you, you can warm that up for after I'm done, but I'm good.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, thank you.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got you, I got you with you better look out for us.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here I'm about to sneeze.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Lord.
• 3:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Excuse me.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Excuse me.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm statically, am I like really bunchy or am I cool?
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: your mic is oh no that's your what you call it you're I thought that was your India court thank you I'm a man with me what's our brother I'm gonna text you to solve
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, four, three, everybody's fault, great, great.
• 4:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, real quick, thank you guys so much.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: We have made a make shift studio.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate you all doing this and such short notice.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Easy.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm honored to have such a great time.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You guys are awesome.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, by the honor you and I thank you so much for an opportunity to just do our best to just yield our hearts towards you.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: There are so many people who are broken hurt.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Allow us to insert joy in the midst of chaos, use us today for your glory in Jesus name.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Amen.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Amen.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's do it.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, all phones on silent.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Close.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to make sure my phone doesn't fall off.
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey brother, we on the way.
• 5:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was blessed.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then was blessed.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I see him in Vegas.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, you're five, four, three, two, one.
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey family, what do you want to do here?
• 5:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what, today I want to talk about something that literally could probably trigger you if you're not careful, right?
• 5:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's something that I think we need to attack head on.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think about the Bible when David was
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: about to go really like thrash Goliath, right?
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't sit back and wait for Goliath to come towards him.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: He ran towards that giant in today.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to tackle a giant.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: that I think you've been going through, and you may not even know that you're going through it.
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: You say, Willie, more juniors, you sit on the agency saying, what are you talking about?
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let me tell you something.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hold your Christian horses here.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, come on somebody.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: But no, honestly, this is what I want to talk about today.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to talk about the big tea.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: You think trust.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: You think trial.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, baby, I'm talking about trauma.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Huh?
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: The matter I'm about to sit down with right now, he's in a series called Triggered.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know if you know because you've been this way for so long that there are a lot of things that are tricking you that have nothing to do with your now.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It has all to do with the seeds that have been planted.
• 6:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: trauma that's in your life.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Today I get an opportunity to talk to one of the most amazing orders of our time.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is a New York Times best seller.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now a stellar award winner and the pastor of transformation church in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: The one and only Mike Todd is hanging out with us.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Round of applause everybody in the house.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you forgot my favorite title when I'm talking to you.
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good, my brother.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm talking to you.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great.
• 6:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: You already know this is, this is just another week for us communicating, but what an honor to be here with this amazing platform that you build and just be able to share again my heart in helping and adding value to people.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: We glad to have you back.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like every year you take this really unique sabbatical, which I'm proud of.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: You have challenged me to take sabbaticals and I've been doing my best.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've started with this sabbath I've been doing my best to refresh you are friend that doesn't allow you to mandarin the amazing Yeah, I appreciate it.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's very challenging when we hang out Do challenges It's not like I love you.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I let man you need to sit on.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I always will because I see your value
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need you and we need you for a long time and your your boys need you and your future relationship needs you.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said it and and all of these things it needs you and if you don't take care of you if you don't prioritize what God's already laid out in his playbook for us then we lose our on purpose that was unnecessary and so yeah I think since God joined us together
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we've always challenged each other and encouraged each other as well as supported each other.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So every time I'm close to you, I'm like, hey, we got to do, we got to do something.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got to do something together and so same thing with me.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I love you, bro.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Matt indeed, and truly, the feeling is so mutual.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was in, I was in Tulsa and I was going through a lot of different trauma and I was like, yo, like, let's really get to the root of this thing.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: We worship, I took a whole lot of notes.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was challenged in so many areas of my life.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then you come off the bat and you have this series called Trigger.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: a trigger.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, yo, this is so in line with what we were talking about some months ago.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you think about trauma, a lot of people in their relationships are fighting something that is kind of viewed as the problem right now.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it may be some internal trauma that they had to endure, that they meant not even be conscious of.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: What has trauma done for you in a positive sense you've attacked it and what has trauma shown you about yourself that you need to fix?
• 9:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me even switch the language of the question just for a second.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: What has trauma done for me since I embraced it?
• 9:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because attacking trauma could even that word could be traumatized for somebody.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I know what you're saying you're saying going towards it.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Most people won't even embrace that there's trauma that is happening.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Most people are just saying like, yo, this is why I am, this is what happened and they're not realizing that undelved with triggers, always are attached to a trauma and those traumas if they are left alone, usually lead to a crash out.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: people don't just end up throwing away their lives, throwing away their marriage, jeopardizing their kids.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's attached to something.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as someone who has counseled and passed their thousands of people who have set in people's lowest moments and their highest moments with them, being a brother that you can call and within 48 hours we together like like yo.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: those type of things, let me know that.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that conversation triggered you.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that job demotion triggered you, or yeah, even that job promotion triggered you, but every trigger is attached to a trauma.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if we don't deal with that trauma, it's gonna lead to a crash out.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And for me, I just, I'm sick of seeing people crash out without putting Christ in the middle of it.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so that was the whole idea behind this series, especially where we're at in culture, especially where we're at in relationship, just where everything's at.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It seems like everybody on edge.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I can't, I ain't got not, not space for not one more thing.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, take a one more thing.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing else can go wrong and I just feel like that's not the margin that God talks about that I came that you might have life and life to the full.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like where is the piece?
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where is the joy?
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where is the and I think it's just because everybody's triggered and they're not dealing with a trauma.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's real.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Make sure that you subscribe to this channel.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got to ask you this because we're talking about trauma and you are like the most outspoken person as a potato relationship.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: New York time best seller relationship goals and I remember when I made this song good thing and it was just all of our relationships.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I got married and that was kind of the biggest attack of my life because I became this guy who represents a certain beacon of hope to marriage.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: How has it been for you being so out front with your wife and family, like internally, like how do you deal with the trauma of the attacks that may come to you guys?
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the truth of the matter is every marriage, whether it's on a platform or nobody knows about y'all.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: A marriage is going to be attacked because it's the picture of God on the earth.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just want you to know that we got an adversary, the enemy he wants to seek and destroy everything that God loves.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: and marriage is that picture.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why so much of the imagery and the metaphors in the Bible are the bride of Christ.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the groom, it's the picture of marriage.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I just want to let everybody know if you get married, there will be opposition.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: The beautiful thing about opposition is that opposition can either make you into something you didn't know was there, or it can take you out of the thing
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: that opposition has drawn us closer to God and closer to each other.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, but it's because we have used the tools around us.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we let people into our relationship.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of couples, they really lose because they don't only ones in their relationship.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when I say that, I'm not talking about polygamy or any of that stuff.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about letting other couples, season couples, community into some of the biggest arguments that mean my wife would ever get into, we could never bring up a game by herself.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: because if I brought it up, it was an automatic fight.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we had friends that we would go out to dinner with and they would ask us.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what's going on with this situation we talked about again?
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And because they're there and because they brought it up, there were times I could hear her.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: differently when she was talking to them than I could hear if it was just me and her, that community talking to seasoned people who've been in relationships, that got some, you know, some season on it, like I'm saying, like that man, what we're talking about this, and they 45 years in, and that ain't even an issue no more.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why are we like, you know,
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people are doing isolated relationships and it's leading to them isolating from each other.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I just believe, man, you got to put resources in it.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: We put the counseling.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: We believe in theology and therapy.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Come here, my wife.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where's the bail?
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's the bail.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Huh?
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: We do it.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: You want you believe in, you say?
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: We believe in therapy and theology.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we got to do both.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because some stuff needs to be prayed for.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Other things need to be talked out.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't do both of them, we got a bunch of people who are spiritually charged and emotionally immature.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they can pray and cast out a demon, but they can't hear a critique.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: where that's a huge dynamic ship and it's hard to be married to.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's hard to have a conversation.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: So how do you, how do you, so a lot of me and they come to me and they say, well, I will talk to her about it, but she ain't gonna never take accountability.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you say to a man right now who has a wife?
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: He loves her way out as hard, but he feels like his voice is muted because she doesn't take accountability for her part.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would say you can't control or change anybody, but you can't control and change yourself.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I honestly would say that a lot of those men do not have enough margin for where their life is at.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you have to grow in your margin.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is what I talked about Sunday in our message.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said, most people have a low tolerance.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: They have a their window of tolerance is very little.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so if your wife say one thing that same disrespectful, you out of there, come on.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's like, don't play with me.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Girl, you know who I am.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the man of this and then you start running down.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: You already know how.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at this.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Look at this.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Look at this.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Brother.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm doing that.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: How could you?
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And what I'm saying is, do you know how many people would love?
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: It seemed like you have some, no, I talked to a lot of people.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, okay, no, I'm just saying that is a sign of local past, you don't get mad at your children for spilling the juice when they learn in how to use a cup.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have capacity for that and it's just exposing their level of maturity in that area.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people haven't developed in certain areas, especially when you talk about spousses, business partners, friends, and we don't give them that grace because we have a low tolerance for that.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so because of that, we can't extend what the Bible tells us to do that, make allowances for other people's faults.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody reads past that scripture.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: We want allowances for our faults.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we don't want to make allow-that means I got to make room because I know you're going to disappoint me.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got to make room because I know you go say something that you don't mean and if I pop off on that and I'm triggered by that and I don't deal with the trouble for that I'ma say some I really don't mean And now we not going even be able to talk about the issue ever again Right because now it's going to be a trauma.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a trauma now inserted a memory that can't be erased And so now anytime I talk to you about money
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm connected to the time where you told me that you don't even make no money anywhere, what do you do for this house anyway?
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so now that ain't even the issue but now it becomes another trauma and this is the enemy's plan and I hate it, it's the cycle and nobody's willing to be transparent enough to say I'm triggered.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: and let that trigger be the actual intersection of us going down into the trauma, so we can be transformed.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I remember we're sitting in the parking lot in Tulsa, and we're supposed to be leaving the parking lot, we're there for like a hour, and you were talking about the different emotions that we go through to be able to choose with your emotion you're going through.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think a lot of men specifically us, we just be like, man, man, it's like, you're not really mad bro, you disappoint.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, man bro, you really say yes.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: You just only had these trigger responses when it comes to you now because last time we talked We were talking about Natalie and how you were about to be booked all across the world every conference everything That you wanted to do and it was like yo, I had so much not only Opportunity but as money on the books.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, cuz a lot of people just think like of course now You're blessed tremendously, but you had a salary at the church.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: They thought that you started the church and he's taking money I might not he go to work just like everybody
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: everybody else.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And just between me and you, I remember he called.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, hey, we got to do these records.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, man, the Lord is saying that I got to, I can't do music no more.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, he said, like, you're dead, like, for a couple of weeks.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, when he was not trying to help me.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, how long?
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: When did this record do a biggest huge?
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, hey, bro, like what's doing?
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like,
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Man, the Lord is just telling me, man, I gotta focus on the church.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, okay, not the big church, you know, not church.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about green wood, you know, everybody ain't going because these uniquely different.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: But then you start making these really big strides in ministry.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then it's time to go out.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you feel like the Lord is saying, no, you're going to lose your marriage.
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you leave, this is going to be tough for her.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is too much for her.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: But not MJ is doing well and the girls are doing good.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they tell me you bought to go outside.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: What type of conversations did you have to have with God and Natalie, to now go on tour with Ty Trebekier, for sure, and so many others?
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So the situation you're talking about is,
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is 2019, and again, I'm booked everywhere, and I cancel everything from July 2019 all the way into 2020, and for my wife, because she's worth it.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: period.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's it.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Money, platform.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I people mad at me.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if Christ gave up everything he did for his bride, what is my example that I should not give up all of these things for my bride?
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I was just being like him.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was hard, but it was the greatest thing that I ever did in a way that allowed her to know forever, and that she's always first.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: So,
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fast forward, we five years like you're now.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't want you know, I'd be at home.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's it.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: He just had a, we had another speech in the car.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're about 45 minutes.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everything comes here.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everything comes here.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's what God says.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not running around.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: God is sitting in here.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, and that's where the blessing is been.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And because of that then, this unique opportunity come on, we were actually about to go into a last year.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've got to do it all by ourselves and right at the end.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, we're not supposed to do it.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, because there's this wrestle between like, what's available in the opportunity and the assignment and I was like this ain't our assignment.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we just stayed out and kept doing what God told us to do.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then Ty called me.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: He came to conference last year.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: He called me and he was like, bro, when we got on stage together, there's some electric that happened.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was co-raisey.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, bro, you should come on tour with me.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've been listening to all transformation, where's your music?
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like this stuff is crazy.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: More people need to hear it, because most people know me as a pastor.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what I'm saying?
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know me from music and stuff like that, but most people don't.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like,
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: really care to tell them, but they'll find it, you know what I'm saying?
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as like man, you should come on tour and so pray to about it.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Talk to my wife about it.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: We made it to where our kids are going to be able to come to some.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah bro, I can't you already know like it.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a family.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she, it's got to be a big life.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be five with your dogs.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're, we're, I'll fly in, fly back.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a sacrifice, but I feel like this is something that we want to do in the season.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's only a month and that's why I need everybody to go get your tickets right now.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because this may not be something we do continually, but I feel like it's something we're supposed to do now And we got to prophetic word about it and stuff and stuff.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know so I like all the cues are there like God did it it came to me I got a word about it that was not Some I was looking like and so you know me when I see God is like all right well I ain't going
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have a crazy look.
• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is a crazy boy.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's only crazy too.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: To the have it, you're the star one I'm saying.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we out there.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: So how do you as a leader make sure that you keep a team motivated, a family motivated?
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: When many times as you just share, you get everybody moving in the direction and then you lie.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: that don't feel right.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you have to turn through you lose people because the vision shifts or do you gain more trust because you have so many victories.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: How do you change your mind when people are ready to move on?
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And in my experience, like people follow you because of your fruit.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: like, if you actually have fruit behind it, there's a reason why it didn't have it.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, and those people that have seen the fruit, now you'll lose some people that are there for the flash or they're for the, you know what I'm saying?
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what it feels like, but like, anybody our team has been more appreciative when I come and be like, hey, I know it's, I know it's three months away, but listen, I don't think this is God, they're like, woof!
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, thank you, Laura.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just praise you, Laura, that you spoke to him because we knew it two months ago.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Two months ago, we didn't want to go work.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: We knew this one, but again, that builds the report, that builds the trust, and I have an amazing team at transformation church, like some of the best creatives and business people in the world.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we looking for more.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm trying to make Tulsa a hub.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what y'all doing at Atlanta?
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to make it in Tulsa.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't gonna start talking about the compound is on the way.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bro, because I just think that Tulsa literally means gathering place.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what the word Tulsa means.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's been significant moves of God that have happened in Tulsa.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Azusa, Ramah, Victory, just some big stuff or Roberts.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just different things that have touched the whole world.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I believe there's another resurgence of that stuff happening in our enormous way to be a part of it.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Mike Toss 12 years old is playing the drums crazy.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like everybody knows that he's probably one of the better drummers.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, I knew your reputation for playing with Waman Tins, they're from Corey Taylor who told me, you know, Mike, you know, you pass so fly, you know, what a drum.
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: He played with Jeff Plenty and I risked so, you know, and I was like, okay, cool.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you plan drums that twirl the story goes that your mom's saying how cocky you Yeah, and she went on hit and set you down sat me on down cuz to those of you don't know mama Brenda she can she can cast out a she doesn't cast a Demon up out of me on stage.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: She said like in the middle of an inner mission She's like I'm a baby coming and fucking that stuff cut.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just got him.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like It's on video and then girls it now go back up there and do with the Lord is called you to do how to live
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Young.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like saying that the same time.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: She didn't do it at Lizard.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I did not make it up.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, this is where it is.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: So she sits in down because they're doing all of these conferences.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's a powerhouse and that's a powerhouse and it's all right.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: She sits you down for humility and you know five years, five, five dates later.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: You get an opportunity to go and you're playing on a pillow.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's what you plan on the pillow, your learning, learning drums, when it comes to humility and sometimes you hear so much rhetoric on social media about who you're not, right?
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: And what you can't do and how he thinks of itself knowing that you've been through so many battles of humility and foundationally that's how you was taught.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: How do you not get triggered back into your own personal trauma when people attack so hard?
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't actually hear most of that stuff.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, my heart is that like, um, the noise is just that.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, nobody called me except God, and I have to stay focused.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I played a song for you when you was done.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's about to come out.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, I have to, I don't comment.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I create, I have a team around me that really, um,
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: guards me and they let me know stuff if it's pertinent to what we got to do but like all that is a distraction and I can just I can just tell you that on the time that I would have wasted on trying to prove somebody that already had decided about the what they wanted to know about me.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay well I'm going to rub because what I was trying to get him to tell you is if the do
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: and the man, the man sent a whole check over there to the man.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not me, I ain't gonna lie to you.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was sent them a whole lot more.
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bro, I'm gonna get them all on you.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, he's like, no, I'm gonna bless him.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, we gonna do what do you know what he said?
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, your trigger is, I'm gonna bless.
• 26:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just want the people of the world I'm not too to make you be this superior man and all of that, but that was something that I've learned throughout the years
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just gonna pop out and like, okay cool, you said, would you say it?
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said what I said, everybody's gonna be happy.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: But because of that example, I have been able to like, bless people, like, you know, bless my enemies and those people, because I actually, you said that example for me, like, I'm like, man, bro, like, you bless them a whole lot for what he just said.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, this is what no $20.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, as we land a plan, that's one of actually this question.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: You grew up with two pastors.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the Thai family, you know, the thing that I do probably with the pinnacle of tide in terms of ministry, like, you're the, like, what, they were creating, they created a sun.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the sun, I'm standing on their shoulders.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: You standing on their shoulders, yeah.
• 27:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: They raise, how many boys is five?
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's five a y'all.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, five.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you got a chance to see a certain level of teaching in the house.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: What parts of their teaching did you take and what parts of growing up that way did you say?
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so I learned faith.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I learned believing God, no matter what from my parents.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I watched them step out when my dad left state farm and he had a good paying job and they decided they were gonna go in the full-time ministry.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I watched God provide for my parents every single month for my entire middle school and high school career.
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: They did not have a formal job.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were waiting on the phone to ring for somebody to come and ask them to come minister
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louisiana or Mississippi or St.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louis, like I watched it and somehow got provided every single time and so I learned crazy faith from them.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I learned prayer from them.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also learned that when God's using you, you also have to learn other mediums of
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: understanding like finances and business that are necessarily a part of what the church teaches.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I found very quickly that I had to really, really, really go after information that was not going to be given to me in a prayer service.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that I could actually be a blessing.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I learned banking.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I learned investments.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I learned like, like, the things that you've been never going to tell you about.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: They tell you not to have sex, but they're not going to tell you how to save.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: and in this and so the combination of watching my parents give me this strong faith foundation and then giving me opportunity to grow in some areas that they were never taught because they just came to
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: they were standing on a parent's shoulders and did better than them.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so that you know what I'm saying?
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think it's my responsibility to light.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we're going to make sure the Todd name has legacy and does what the Bible says, like your children's children will be blessed.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: They'll know you because you left them something, not just a good story.
• 29:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like you know what I'm saying.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking land and finances and rights and copyrights and trust and trust and so um
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I always be humble like I mean anybody knows me like outside of a clip or You know what I'm saying?
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they know Yeah, I'm not owned this stuff like everybody else, you know at all Thank you all this stuff and I don't even know why you brought this story about us giving to the people that was funny his head
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's why this how you know he's my brother.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like this.
• 30:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: You did.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know I was both excited But I wanted them to teach.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to teach like to love your enemies because that's the that's what the word It like because I think you just given on transformation We gave this to this church and I'm just like yeah, I don't even know them in a clearance closet I he clears this closet out every year every year like I'll come get this stuff and dude You're supposed to do it and I've learned so much for me.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like to say that publicly
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Even though you're younger, like I've learned so much in the kingdom of God, because I came from my mom and dad weren't pastors.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was hustler, you know what I mean?
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I kind of grew up, well, my mom and you, I know that's what the daddy was.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and so I just learned so much just in closing, because I know we have to wrap this thing up.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you could maybe look at that camera, until the people right now, because you're in a series called Trigger and Trauma, a lot of relationships, a lot of people been through divorce, a lot of people are going through so, so much.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's really tackle this trauma and trigger, so they can get to their destiny.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you're dealing with a trauma right now, I promise you something's going to happen to you this week next week or month from now that's going to trigger you.
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: The question is what are you going to do with it?
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And most of us crash out.
• 31:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Most of us cuss somebody out, most of us go to a vice or something that will relieve us temporarily.
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: What if I told you there could be relief eternity?
• 31:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: The Bible says in Matthew, he says, this is Jesus talking, come to me.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: all who are weary and have a heavy burden.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is the promise that Jesus makes, I will give you rest.
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some of y'all haven't rested in a long time.
• 31:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not talking about sleep.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sleep is which your body needs.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Rest is which you're so weak.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Your mind, your will and your emotions.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Today, I'm asking you to come with all of the burdens, the frustrations, the baby mama drama, the investments going bad, the business blowing up, the kids running crazy, the relationships, not being stable, bring all of that Jesus says, I'll take it.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Come to me if you're weary and I will give you rest for your souls.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just telling you there's a better option available.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do I know?
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And instead of going to the crash out and turning it into a tragedy, I drop down into my trauma.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I met Jesus and he said, I can take that and he transformed my life.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm offering that to you.
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe in you.
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Your day can be better if you allow God to be a part of your day.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love you and I believe in you.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be transformed.
• 32:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And be family listen, make sure that you subscribe to this channel and don't forget to love yourself more.