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TRANS-mission Shift · GAS MONEY

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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to another installment of Gas Money.
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SPEAKER_02: We got Ace in the building.
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SPEAKER_10: Yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_10: Uh nice to have me.
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SPEAKER_10: Uh we got Red over here.
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SPEAKER_11: I think saying nice to have you is a bit of a uh pre-judgment.
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SPEAKER_11: It's a pleasure to have you, brother.
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SPEAKER_11: What's going on, man?
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SPEAKER_11: Hey, what's going on, everybody?
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SPEAKER_11: It's your boy Redden.
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SPEAKER_11: To my left, we have KOcho in the building.
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SPEAKER_07: Hi, everybody.
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SPEAKER_07: We also have my twin sister, Casey.
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SPEAKER_10: Trying to hide away in the place.
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SPEAKER_07: Hi, everybody.
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SPEAKER_07: What up, Katie?
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SPEAKER_11: Hi.
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SPEAKER_11: Good to have you, Katie.
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SPEAKER_01: And we have Bree.
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SPEAKER_01: Hey guys, how's it going?
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SPEAKER_02: DM alope.
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SPEAKER_10: Yo, yo.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, um, now that we all have been introduced and um Yes, we have an even number of women and men today.
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SPEAKER_07: Yes.
0:54
SPEAKER_02: Is there really an even number?
0:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure not so.
0:57
SPEAKER_02: Three and three left in the web for.
0:59
SPEAKER_02: I gotta make sure we're all even, you know?
1:02
SPEAKER_07: We're all cisgender, yeah.
1:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
1:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:07
SPEAKER_02: I forgot what that meant.
1:08
SPEAKER_02: But um, so you guys want to talk about uh how Halloween has, you know, taken over the whole bottom half of this month?
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, Halloween is my favorite holiday.
1:16
SPEAKER_10: Why?
1:17
SPEAKER_10: Pagan half, explain that to me.
1:19
SPEAKER_10: What's your definition?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna explain it to you.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what a pagan is.
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SPEAKER_11: Um for the listeners out there who don't know what pagan means.
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SPEAKER_11: Please explain it to me.
1:27
SPEAKER_10: Remember, we have a few people missing, so we gotta have to play.
1:30
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I mean it was uh religious.
1:33
SPEAKER_02: Is that a shout-out, Sir Chubb?
1:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess it was the religion that brings a lot to the table.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he does a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: It predated uh Christianity, and for some reason, Chris well, I know the reason why, but Christianity has absorbed a lot of pagan holidays and rituals, and Halloween is happens to be one of them.
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SPEAKER_10: And how so though?
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SPEAKER_10: Like is it was a harvest thing.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a because you know, pagans they went on like you know the moon and the harvest, like the like things revolved around that.
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SPEAKER_10: Alright, so do the Mayans and Egyptian.
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SPEAKER_02: But Halloween is specifically has pagan roots because of the whole undead stuff, you know.
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SPEAKER_10: Everyone has undead.
2:15
SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I guess so.
2:21
SPEAKER_02: If you carry the two, I mean that makes sense.
2:23
SPEAKER_02: I understand what you're saying.
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SPEAKER_02: But uh, why do you like Halloween?
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SPEAKER_02: What's the reason?
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SPEAKER_10: Yo, alright, I love good energy, I love good vibes, I don't like negativity, but something about me that like dark shit.
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SPEAKER_11: Okay.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: Like for me, a love story is uh uh what do they call him?
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SPEAKER_11: Uh Harlequin no.
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SPEAKER_10: Uh Harlequin and uh Joker.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, and the Joker.
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SPEAKER_10: That's a love story for me.
2:51
SPEAKER_10: I almost draw a tear at the end of that and be like, that's a bad thing.
2:54
SPEAKER_02: Do you go to therapy at all?
2:56
SPEAKER_02: Like no, he doesn't.
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SPEAKER_10: I used to when I was a kid.
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SPEAKER_10: But that was only because I choked the kid out.
3:02
SPEAKER_10: Right before uh what was that Christmas vacation or some shit?
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SPEAKER_02: Does anybody have a lighter reason why they like uh it got pretty dark in the house?
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SPEAKER_10: No, no, no, no, no you asked that question.
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SPEAKER_10: I just like Halloween.
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SPEAKER_02: I like the ghouls and the goblins and the ghosts and shit.
3:22
SPEAKER_02: Okay, uh Red looking like he wants to talk about the Instagram thoughts.
3:25
SPEAKER_02: That's what it like that's what his face is telling me.
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SPEAKER_11: I wasn't going to reference the Instagram thoughts.
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SPEAKER_11: However, since you brought it up, okay.
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SPEAKER_11: No, I'm not gonna bash any women today.
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SPEAKER_11: Okay.
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SPEAKER_07: I mean, I was gonna say I like Halloween because it's really nostalgic.
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SPEAKER_07: Like you get to see a lot of different movies, um, like that you liked when you were younger, and people love all that spooky shit.
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SPEAKER_07: Like, even me who's not really into scary movies, when it's like Halloween, I'll get a little bit more into it.
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SPEAKER_02: Did anybody dress up?
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SPEAKER_07: I I didn't this year, but I usually do.
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SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_10: Didn't get the chance to.
4:00
SPEAKER_10: I was adulting.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I didn't feel like shopping for a costume.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you did you guys see any costumes that impressed you, you know?
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SPEAKER_02: Besides the Instagram thoughts, of course.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about regular everyday people.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
4:11
SPEAKER_11: You keep referencing these Instagrams.
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SPEAKER_11: I don't have an Instagram.
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SPEAKER_11: I was gonna say for someone who doesn't have Instagram.
4:18
SPEAKER_11: How do you know about this?
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SPEAKER_07: Now I'm trying to think about it, because there's so many customers.
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SPEAKER_11: I would expect for you to say Twitter thoughts.
4:22
SPEAKER_11: I don't know how to do that.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Heidi Kloom, yo, she's the queen of Halloween.
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SPEAKER_07: Heidi Kloom definitely always wins Halloween.
4:28
SPEAKER_02: She was a cheater.
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SPEAKER_07: She was Fiona, and I think her boyfriend was Shrek, but they go all out with the makeup.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_07: Like prosthetics, and they do everything.
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SPEAKER_07: It's not just like she dresses up like she has shit put all over her, like prosthetics and everything.
4:41
SPEAKER_07: Oh I saw um.
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SPEAKER_06: I saw someone on Instagram that was um an avatar.
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SPEAKER_06: She had like the full-blown like movie star makeup.
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SPEAKER_06: So that was pretty impressive.
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SPEAKER_02: So I think um I have a hot take.
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SPEAKER_02: I think since makeup has become like its own thing, I used to call it witchcraft, and it's like now it's like black.
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SPEAKER_07: It depends how you do it.
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SPEAKER_07: There are there are different types of makeup.
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SPEAKER_02: I think uh it's the one positive thing of makeup is that it took Halloween to another level.
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SPEAKER_07: Oh, yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Like the regular like everyday people can make like really dope costumes because of makeup.
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SPEAKER_02: Before, you know, everybody just bought their mask or bought their shit.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, because there wasn't that much on the market.
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unknown: I felt like I make that.
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SPEAKER_10: I mean, that's just this generation.
5:20
SPEAKER_11: We could do a lot better than thank you, YouTube, and tutorials on YouTube.
5:24
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: I didn't yeah, really.
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SPEAKER_10: I definitely couldn't look online back in the day and figure out how to do it.
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SPEAKER_02: It was either Jason mask or scream mask.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was very simple.
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SPEAKER_02: There's the classic.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh no, I couldn't do the Freddy thing.
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SPEAKER_02: You need a lot of prosthetics for that.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, no, no, they had the Freddy.
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SPEAKER_02: The pullover mask.
5:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
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SPEAKER_11: Mask and a glove.
5:45
SPEAKER_11: Oh.
5:46
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
5:46
SPEAKER_11: Give it the times.
5:47
SPEAKER_11: Nah, yeah.
5:47
SPEAKER_11: You're younger than I am, and I remember that you're Freddie.
5:50
SPEAKER_10: Wow.
5:50
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I see.
5:51
SPEAKER_10: The West Indian shit.
5:53
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, because some people just like they paint their face with scars, so not everybody doesn't know.
5:58
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
6:00
SPEAKER_02: I wanted to speak about something that's spooky to a lot of people in the room.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's uh Caitlin Jenner's uh well, Mr.
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SPEAKER_02: Bruce.
6:08
SPEAKER_02: Wait, what'd you call it?
6:10
SPEAKER_02: Man pussy is what he said.
6:13
SPEAKER_02: Man pussy.
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SPEAKER_02: Um I don't want to offend anybody, but uh that's not for me.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know what a man pussy is personally, so could you define it?
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SPEAKER_02: Like what man pussy?
6:26
SPEAKER_02: Is that an oxymoron?
6:28
SPEAKER_00: Like, what the f but uh it just went it just went with what you were saying.
6:34
SPEAKER_02: No, I think he has a specific.
6:36
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, it went with what you were just saying.
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SPEAKER_11: I'm gonna speak something about something real spooky.
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SPEAKER_11: Caitlin Jenner's uh that's a man pussy.
6:44
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so you just see what I'm saying.
6:47
SPEAKER_02: Um speaking to the mic, what was it?
6:49
SPEAKER_07: We saw a video of how the surgery is done, which is pretty crazy.
6:52
SPEAKER_02: Fast forward, fast forward.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I saw that's what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_06: If you it's easy to say, but I was like, have you ever actually seen one?
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SPEAKER_06: Because the surgery is it's pretty horrific.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, is there what's it?
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SPEAKER_07: You know, on they have no like Snapchat, they have like all these articles, so they had like an article about how the surgery is done.
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SPEAKER_02: No, the guy, the cathouse.
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SPEAKER_02: I think it was around the time that he side topic transitioned.
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SPEAKER_02: The owner of Cowhouse.
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SPEAKER_10: No, no, no, that's not what I was talking about.
7:17
SPEAKER_10: Oh it wasn't the owner that had a man pussy.
7:20
SPEAKER_10: Well, I know he didn't have a.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna say he died, but uh he was a Caitlyn Jenner.
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SPEAKER_02: Um Bruce Wheaties Box.
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SPEAKER_02: Bruce?
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SPEAKER_10: Oh, oh, no disrespect.
7:32
SPEAKER_10: My bad.
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SPEAKER_10: My bad, Bruce Bruce.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, so um Cape, are we are we gonna Caitlin?
7:39
SPEAKER_02: That's the name.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: So um it was the whole backtracking on the the Trump vote.
7:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I'm gonna go.
7:46
SPEAKER_02: She's a Republican.
7:47
SPEAKER_10: Okay, yeah, she's a Republican.
7:49
SPEAKER_10: And proudly voted for Trump's.
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SPEAKER_08: And she's she's a fake bitch for that.
7:52
SPEAKER_08: She lost all points.
7:53
SPEAKER_08: Why are we using the word shake?
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SPEAKER_08: She's a fake bitch.
7:57
SPEAKER_02: For that?
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SPEAKER_02: Just for the voters?
7:59
SPEAKER_07: I mean that in the literal terms, but figuratively speaking.
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SPEAKER_02: It just happened to it just happened to fake.
8:03
SPEAKER_07: That was a nice pun.
8:04
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so unintentional pun.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: How do we view a person because Trump didn't just start the whole anti-trans thing?
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SPEAKER_07: No, well, I think while he was campaigning, he he was saying that it wouldn't be a pro like he wasn't anti-trans, I think, when he was campaigning.
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SPEAKER_07: A lot of his things was regarding Muslims, immigrants, but I don't think while no, I don't think while he was campaigning he made anything about the trans community specifically.
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SPEAKER_10: Bruce Jenner gay marriage was on the table, but um everyone knew.
8:35
SPEAKER_10: No, already legalized by the but it wasn't really that much of a conversation for Trump.
8:41
SPEAKER_10: Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
8:43
SPEAKER_07: I think he said something I think he said something positive.
8:46
SPEAKER_07: I remember I I watched one interview and he was saying like something positive.
8:50
SPEAKER_02: Can I call out the hypocrisy though?
8:53
SPEAKER_02: So Caitlin Bruce, whatever, is cool with Trump hating on women, Muslims, but he or she draws the line when it's transgendered people?
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SPEAKER_07: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: When the man pussy is threatened.
9:08
SPEAKER_07: When it's more per when it's personal.
9:10
SPEAKER_02: And but wait, being a woman wasn't personal?
9:13
SPEAKER_07: Well, I'm saying in terms of the trans, I feel like that'd be a little bit more personal.
9:17
SPEAKER_07: She's a trans woman, so it's a little it's a tiny, it's a tiny bit.
9:21
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no.
9:22
SPEAKER_07: It's just a different it's just a little different.
9:25
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
9:25
SPEAKER_07: Because like I like we were saying, like, once you're a trans woman, like that's a whole different agenda than because you weren't a natural born woman.
9:33
SPEAKER_07: So you got what I'm saying, like the LGBTQ, right?
9:36
SPEAKER_07: The T it's you have a T, exactly.
9:38
SPEAKER_07: You have a T.
9:38
SPEAKER_07: But there's cisgender women who aren't, um they're gonna be women, but they're not categorized in the same way in the LGBTQ that's gonna be a lot of people.
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SPEAKER_02: So they don't receive the same type like gender pay gap issues that regular women receive?
9:51
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
9:52
SPEAKER_07: My whole point is I think with him, with the trans, it's more personal.
9:56
SPEAKER_07: I just I just think that And again, he's a sub she's a celebrity, so she's not gonna deal with the same issues that these women deal with.
10:03
SPEAKER_07: You get what I'm saying?
10:04
SPEAKER_07: Like, yes, she's a woman now, like that's how she's you know identifying right now, but the same issues aren't gonna affect her that affect me.
10:12
SPEAKER_07: Well that's why she was able to distance herself from the things that he was, you know, against before, but now it's actually really specific to her.
10:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna be real with you, that makes no sense to me.
10:22
SPEAKER_07: What I no, to be honest, it doesn't because it's it wasn't right for her to support Trump to begin with.
10:27
SPEAKER_07: Okay, okay.
10:27
SPEAKER_07: So that but I'm saying that might be her logic.
10:29
SPEAKER_07: So we both agree.
10:30
SPEAKER_07: And she yes, we both agree.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: This is bullshit.
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SPEAKER_06: No, what what I think I think she's fake um because she probably would have still supported Trump if it wasn't for all the backlash that she was getting from the trans community.
10:42
SPEAKER_06: Like, I think if it wasn't for that, she probably would have still been a Trump supporter.
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SPEAKER_08: She was, she voted for Trump.
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SPEAKER_08: She got him.
10:47
SPEAKER_08: That's what I'm saying.
10:48
SPEAKER_08: Like you can't take it back now.
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SPEAKER_11: Like pause, pause.
10:56
SPEAKER_11: Puzzled.
10:57
SPEAKER_11: Do you know the give her no hug?
11:01
SPEAKER_11: Sometimes.
11:02
SPEAKER_11: So this will this will, you know, relate.
11:06
SPEAKER_11: It's the same thing as two crypto or two blood sets having beef with each other.
11:10
SPEAKER_11: Oh, okay.
11:11
SPEAKER_11: You know what I'm saying?
11:12
SPEAKER_11: It's the same thing, same, you know what I'm saying, same context.
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SPEAKER_02: Alright, I get it.
11:14
SPEAKER_11: Like, like, yeah, we're we're under the same flag, but we're different.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: Let me throw a monkey wrench in here.
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SPEAKER_02: Um Caitlin Bruce also said that she transferred he transferred into a woman, but is not a lesbian, but dates women.
11:34
SPEAKER_02: I'll repeat that one more time.
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SPEAKER_02: Bruce changed it to a woman, dates women, but is not a lesbian.
11:42
SPEAKER_11: Okay, folks, if you did append this in school, follow the law.
11:46
SPEAKER_11: State it once again for those in the back.
11:48
SPEAKER_02: Last time, for the people in the back, listen up.
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SPEAKER_02: Carry the two.
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SPEAKER_02: Bruce, who was a man at one point, became a woman, dates women, but is not a lesbian.
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SPEAKER_07: Well, the thing is, I think the current person that she's dating is a trans woman.
12:05
SPEAKER_02: All right, now you're not gonna be a good one.
12:07
SPEAKER_07: She's like 21 years old.
12:08
SPEAKER_07: That's why I think that's why I think he's not gonna be a good one.
12:10
SPEAKER_07: Two negatives become a positive.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: No, you're not gay.
12:13
SPEAKER_07: That's why exactly.
12:14
SPEAKER_07: That's why I'm saying I think he's not gonna be able to do it.
12:16
SPEAKER_02: She's gay.
12:17
SPEAKER_02: That's my question.
12:17
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
12:18
SPEAKER_07: No, you see, that doesn't work.
12:20
SPEAKER_02: No, no, somebody has to know.
12:22
SPEAKER_07: She could identify as queer, which is like you don't identify as anything.
12:25
SPEAKER_07: You know, that could be it.
12:27
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
12:28
SPEAKER_07: Let's be in a specific classification, but she's dating a trans woman right now.
12:32
SPEAKER_02: Yo, I legit want to like bring a chart down so we can just.
12:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_07: They never confirmed they were dating.
12:36
SPEAKER_07: I don't know what's going on with the black ass women.
12:39
SPEAKER_02: Women a man turned into a woman who likes women is what?
12:46
SPEAKER_07: But she might not only like just regular women.
12:49
SPEAKER_02: This is what came out of his the person's mouth.
12:53
SPEAKER_07: I feel like it's more, it could be more pansexual, I don't know.
12:56
SPEAKER_07: Pansexual.
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SPEAKER_07: I feel like it's a good idea.
12:58
SPEAKER_07: What is that one again?
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SPEAKER_07: So pansexual is when you date um not according to gender.
13:04
SPEAKER_07: So you can date someone who date women.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's the fake that's the new bisexual.
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SPEAKER_07: So pansexual is a lot broader than that.
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SPEAKER_07: So it's still binary and gender is not binary.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, exactly.
13:17
SPEAKER_07: Like bisexual is still, you only date men and women.
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SPEAKER_07: Like pansexual.
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SPEAKER_02: There's another thing?
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SPEAKER_07: Pansexual could be.
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SPEAKER_07: Yes, there's more than one gender.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so pansexual.
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SPEAKER_00: What?
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SPEAKER_07: One, there's also intersex people.
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SPEAKER_07: Is that new?
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so pansexual are attracted to people.
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SPEAKER_07: Like you're attracted to the people.
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SPEAKER_02: So they're not so a pansexual would not have sex with a straight monkey.
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SPEAKER_02: No animal sex.
13:40
SPEAKER_05: No, that's true.
13:41
SPEAKER_08: It doesn't have to do with animals.
13:43
SPEAKER_08: So just attracted to humans like we're supposed to be.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they're attracted to various different types of humans.
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SPEAKER_02: The biggest difference between a pansexual and a bisexual is that a pansexual thinks that there's more than two genders.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's not a binary definition.
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SPEAKER_02: Bisexuals beef for pansexuals.
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SPEAKER_07: No, no, there's no there's no beef.
14:02
SPEAKER_07: Why are you going beef over just loving people?
14:03
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm letting you know that, listen, there's only two people.
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SPEAKER_07: No, there isn't.
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SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_05: There isn't.
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SPEAKER_07: What about intersex people who are literally born with people who are intersexual?
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, with two secondary sex characteristics.
14:15
SPEAKER_10: Where is the differentiation?
14:16
SPEAKER_10: Well, that was the old term for it.
14:18
SPEAKER_07: It's intersex now.
14:19
SPEAKER_07: Because there's not just XX and XY.
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SPEAKER_07: Genetically, there's a lot of different kinds.
14:23
SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of areas.
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SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of different things.
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SPEAKER_10: How many relationships of what you feel and not what you know about science?
14:30
SPEAKER_10: What?
14:30
SPEAKER_10: How many relationships do you know are based on what you feel on another person minus what you know about science?
14:37
SPEAKER_10: Minus knowing that.
14:38
SPEAKER_10: I don't get the question.
14:39
SPEAKER_10: You're telling me about XY and XXY.
14:42
SPEAKER_10: And one gender is more of a social construct.
14:51
SPEAKER_10: Biological sexes.
14:52
SPEAKER_10: There's not just two.
14:53
SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of there's like seven.
14:55
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
14:55
SPEAKER_07: There's a whole bunch.
14:57
SPEAKER_07: Well, that's because they don't freaking know.
14:59
SPEAKER_10: So that's why they're they won't be considered pansexual?
15:02
SPEAKER_10: Because they don't know about that?
15:03
SPEAKER_07: No, it's just no pansexuals.
15:05
SPEAKER_06: I'm pretty sure they're very well versed on that.
15:07
SPEAKER_06: So is it?
15:08
SPEAKER_07: It's just now there's more definitions.
15:10
SPEAKER_07: They just don't take gender into account.
15:11
SPEAKER_08: Let's just kind of tumblers because they love the person.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: This all started because of Tumblr, I swear to God.
15:16
SPEAKER_02: Tumblr is what started all this bullshit.
15:17
SPEAKER_08: No, no, it's definitely Tumblr's the shit.
15:20
SPEAKER_02: Tumblr's the chilly did this.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: No, but I think pansexuals.
15:23
SPEAKER_07: The pansexuals.
15:25
SPEAKER_07: I don't follow that.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
15:27
SPEAKER_07: Alright, so But there's more one again, gender is more of a social construct.
15:31
SPEAKER_07: So Bruce Then biological sex is different.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: Is a fake bitch and full of shit.
15:36
SPEAKER_07: She's full of shit, yes.
15:37
SPEAKER_07: And she's fake, yes.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
15:39
SPEAKER_07: For supporting Trump and then going back to the page.
15:41
SPEAKER_07: And then trying to backtrack like, did you think it wasn't gonna catch you?
15:43
SPEAKER_07: So can we stay on podcasting?
15:44
SPEAKER_07: But I feel like a lot of people, a lot of people liked Bruce, not Caitlin very much.
15:49
SPEAKER_07: Like even within her own family, like Bruce was relatable.
15:51
SPEAKER_07: Caitlin, Caitlin is just like, I don't know.
15:53
SPEAKER_02: Bruce was relatable.
15:54
SPEAKER_07: And I felt kind of bad for Bruce in some of the episodes.
15:56
SPEAKER_07: So we kind of mistreated him.
16:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I don't like I don't like her.
16:01
SPEAKER_02: Which one?
16:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:03
SPEAKER_02: She's canceled.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: She?
16:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay, cool.
16:05
SPEAKER_08: Yes.
16:06
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so as long as you identify as a woman.
16:08
SPEAKER_02: So wait, this is.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: Did you just refer to me by gender?
16:10
SPEAKER_02: This is my last question on this topic, right?
16:12
SPEAKER_02: So if I'm a trans, if I'm a man.
16:14
SPEAKER_08: Technically, do we know her pronouns?
16:16
SPEAKER_08: Did she say she wants to be aggressive?
16:17
SPEAKER_08: This is my thing.
16:18
SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
16:18
SPEAKER_08: Because some people the person that transitions defines it.
16:23
SPEAKER_08: Society doesn't define it.
16:24
SPEAKER_02: Yes, exactly.
16:25
SPEAKER_02: So I can be a man.
16:26
SPEAKER_02: Trans transform.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: Is that correct?
16:29
SPEAKER_02: Like transform is a word?
16:30
SPEAKER_02: I can say that.
16:31
SPEAKER_02: Transition.
16:31
SPEAKER_02: It's more transition.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: So I metamorphosi into a woman.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: I can be like, nah, I'm still he.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: I want to be still he.
16:39
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: So what would that is your right?
16:41
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
16:42
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
16:42
SPEAKER_07: Sometimes people, there's um also them, so people are referred to him, right?
16:46
SPEAKER_07: As them.
16:46
SPEAKER_07: Them or they.
16:47
SPEAKER_07: Or zer.
16:48
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, there's zer.
16:49
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
16:50
SPEAKER_08: It gets.
16:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't want you to speak on the channel.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: No, there's a lot of different pronouns.
16:53
SPEAKER_02: No, it gets under my roof.
16:57
SPEAKER_11: For those of you who don't know what's going on, AG is talking to his lady right now.
17:01
SPEAKER_06: It's confusing to us because we're we were raised to only think there's like a binary standard of the city.
17:06
SPEAKER_06: I come from the old school tea, but I I still think it's people's right to be addressed to how they feel.
17:13
SPEAKER_07: How they feel.
17:14
SPEAKER_07: We're gonna drop it.
17:14
SPEAKER_07: Because again, biologically comfortable.
17:17
SPEAKER_11: Do you do you do you agree?
17:19
SPEAKER_11: Do you agree with the whole racial Rachel Dozer thing?
17:22
SPEAKER_11: Saying she's black?
17:23
SPEAKER_02: I do.
17:24
unknown: What?
17:26
SPEAKER_06: The girl being transracial.
17:29
SPEAKER_11: Her wanting to identify as black.
17:31
SPEAKER_11: I'm telling you.
17:32
SPEAKER_11: No, she's mentally ill.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: What?
17:36
SPEAKER_02: She's mentally ill.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: But a person that wants to cut the dick in half.
17:43
SPEAKER_08: She's full of like.
17:45
SPEAKER_08: She's full of hatred.
17:46
SPEAKER_08: Like, no, she's full of hatred for her own kind.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: I would hate my kind if I was raping and pillaging everybody.
17:52
SPEAKER_07: No, I just think race and gender are two different things.
17:54
SPEAKER_02: That's trans talk.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
17:56
SPEAKER_07: Race and gender are on two different things.
17:59
SPEAKER_07: And the other girl.
17:59
SPEAKER_07: What's the other girl that thinks she's white, but she's a big one.
18:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the black one?
18:02
SPEAKER_02: No, she's a couple of things.
18:03
SPEAKER_07: That's who I was thinking from the city.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: But we have a legitimate legendary.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: Don't you work for the end of a legitimate?
18:09
SPEAKER_02: And then she went to one of those.
18:11
SPEAKER_07: It's not the same thing.
18:12
SPEAKER_07: It's not the same thing.
18:13
SPEAKER_07: People try to degrade that argument and say that, but race and gender are two different things that define you.
18:19
SPEAKER_07: But why can't I be able to do that?
18:20
SPEAKER_07: A gender is definitely a more prominent.
18:24
SPEAKER_07: It's a more prominent part of your identity than racism.
18:28
SPEAKER_07: No, I mean also I understand if someone feels like they're a woman inside, but then they're a man.
18:32
SPEAKER_07: As opposed to just you trying to change your race.
18:34
SPEAKER_07: They're two different.
18:35
SPEAKER_07: They play two different roles.
18:37
SPEAKER_08: And I think there's hormones that affect how we feel about certain things like you're for race.
18:42
SPEAKER_08: There's no like they can't, there's not even any.
18:50
SPEAKER_08: Like there's no evidence that we feel different based on the thing.
18:54
SPEAKER_02: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: What if I'm a white boy and I plan on doing this?
18:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna adopt a white kid, right?
18:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna raise him as a black man.
19:01
SPEAKER_02: How can you tell him he's not a black man?
19:05
SPEAKER_02: Are you stumped?
19:07
SPEAKER_02: Are you afraid?
19:08
SPEAKER_08: No, you're his father.
19:10
SPEAKER_05: I have a better one.
19:12
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so here's another thing.
19:18
SPEAKER_07: The black man is his father.
19:18
SPEAKER_07: He is the exactly he was raised within exactly.
19:21
SPEAKER_07: He was raised within that culture.
19:23
SPEAKER_07: She wasn't.
19:23
SPEAKER_07: Her parents were white.
19:25
SPEAKER_07: Her parents were white.
19:26
SPEAKER_07: She was way raised in that white culture.
19:29
SPEAKER_07: Listen, she was raised within that college.
19:32
SPEAKER_07: No, but that's what I'm saying.
19:33
SPEAKER_07: How it's different things in terms of race and gender play two different roles in society.
19:37
SPEAKER_07: And you guys are trying to conflate the two as if they're the same thing.
19:40
SPEAKER_07: But they're not.
19:41
SPEAKER_07: They don't play the same role in someone's identity.
19:43
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, they do not have to say.
19:43
SPEAKER_07: They do not play the same.
19:45
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, they don't.
19:46
SPEAKER_05: They do not play the same role.
19:48
SPEAKER_05: They do not play the same role.
19:50
SPEAKER_05: No, it's not.
19:51
SPEAKER_02: One is a mental illness, they both gotta be a mental illness.
19:53
SPEAKER_07: No, no, they're not.
19:55
SPEAKER_02: We can agree to disagree.
19:56
SPEAKER_02: They're not.
19:57
SPEAKER_07: I think we're just agreeing to No, because I'm saying there's a lot of biological factors that goes into gender identity.
20:03
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
20:06
SPEAKER_07: Listen, genetically, there's no such thing as race.
20:09
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
20:09
SPEAKER_02: Right?
20:09
SPEAKER_02: But genetically, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
20:14
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
20:15
SPEAKER_07: We're all the same species.
20:16
SPEAKER_07: We're all the same.
20:18
SPEAKER_07: Align and melanin species.
20:21
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
20:21
SPEAKER_07: There's all variations in melanin.
20:23
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: That is not true at all.
20:26
SPEAKER_07: I disagree with that.
20:26
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
20:27
SPEAKER_07: There are different genetically, we're all the same species, right?
20:31
SPEAKER_07: There's different variations.
20:32
SPEAKER_07: There's different traits, right?
20:33
SPEAKER_07: There are different traits that run along certain, you know, areas of the world, right?
20:38
SPEAKER_07: Like in terms of Africa, Europe, exactly.
20:41
SPEAKER_07: There's some sort of differentiation, but at the end of the day, we're still the same race, and we're still the same species, right?
20:49
SPEAKER_07: And you know, no, listen, listen, and you know that there is more, there are more differences within the groups than between different groups.
20:58
SPEAKER_07: Like let's say if you can compare people from Africa to Europe, there'll be more differences within that same group of people in Africa than there would be if you compare them to people from Europe.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay, sickle cell, right?
21:08
SPEAKER_02: Is a thing that white people do not get.
21:10
SPEAKER_02: Because sickle cell is a genetic mutation that happens to people of in Africa to combat malaria.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: White people will never have that.
21:18
SPEAKER_07: That's what I said.
21:19
SPEAKER_07: It's based on your region, though.
21:20
SPEAKER_07: It's based on your region.
21:21
SPEAKER_07: That's why you said that there's certain traits that will cancel that.
21:25
SPEAKER_07: Exactly, but you're still the same species.
21:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm not disagreeing.
21:29
SPEAKER_02: You're still the same species.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: But generous.
21:31
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely different.
21:32
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
21:33
SPEAKER_07: What?
21:33
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
21:34
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no, no, no.
21:36
SPEAKER_07: Not in terms of the species.
21:38
SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm saying.
21:38
SPEAKER_07: Traits?
21:39
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
21:40
SPEAKER_07: I'm saying traits, race and story.
21:43
SPEAKER_02: No, I I wasn't making that argument.
21:45
SPEAKER_02: I just think they're very similar.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: And if somebody thinks they're a different race, and you said they have a mental illness, then I should have this.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: I can't.
21:52
SPEAKER_02: I should be able to understand the opinion.
21:53
SPEAKER_07: Your brain, your brain gets masculinized and femininized different ways.
21:58
SPEAKER_07: There are there are masculinity things that Happens in your brain the same thing as there are different things that feminize your brain.
22:04
SPEAKER_07: But that doesn't happen in terms in terms of race.
22:06
SPEAKER_02: And I think there's something wrong with that.
22:08
SPEAKER_07: And it's it doesn't happen at the same point.
22:10
SPEAKER_11: My ideology behind this is.
22:14
SPEAKER_11: My ideology behind this is you said that there's no different or whatever.
22:18
SPEAKER_11: So a person can't change their race.
22:21
SPEAKER_11: A person can change their sex, but genetically they're still what they were born as.
22:25
SPEAKER_11: So nothing really changes.
22:27
SPEAKER_02: I agree with you.
22:28
SPEAKER_02: And that's the difference.
22:30
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
22:31
SPEAKER_11: Nothing really changes.
22:33
SPEAKER_11: You can take all the hormones in the world, but naturally, you are who you are.
22:38
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but that's not how you identify.
22:39
SPEAKER_07: So if you want to change that in terms of like what I said, listen, you could be born, you could be born, you could be born uh a male genetically, right?
22:48
SPEAKER_07: But there are different things that happen in your brain that make you identify as more feminine, right?
22:54
SPEAKER_07: They don't have to they don't have to agree in that sense.
22:57
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
22:58
SPEAKER_07: It's not all the environment, like, oh, they just saw this, they want to wear makeup.
23:01
SPEAKER_07: It's not that.
23:02
SPEAKER_07: There are biological reasons why people do identify as a woman or a man, but it's not the same thing in terms of racial, in terms of racial differences in your brain.
23:11
SPEAKER_07: We're going around the body.
23:13
SPEAKER_07: Like it's it's more biological.
23:14
SPEAKER_07: No, but it it's like with hair complaining.
23:17
SPEAKER_08: Let's say someone wants to complain.
23:19
SPEAKER_07: Let's say some women are more comfortable as blondes and they dye their hair blonde and they feel better about themselves.
23:25
SPEAKER_07: They feel more comfortable.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: It's called self-hate.
23:27
SPEAKER_07: No, because it's not self-hate.
23:29
SPEAKER_07: You just self-hate you just might feel like it compliments you better than you're talking about.
23:34
SPEAKER_08: So that's what you do to become that.
23:36
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
23:36
SPEAKER_08: To make yourself more comfortable with who you are.
23:38
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
23:39
SPEAKER_08: And it doesn't mean that one color is better than the other.
23:41
SPEAKER_08: It just means you're more comfortable as that.
23:45
SPEAKER_07: No, but that's what that's basically my point is genetically, we are all the same species.
23:49
SPEAKER_07: There are different traits that get passed down based on, you know, different Yeah, exactly, different mutations, different areas, but genetically, your brain, your brain, certain things can happen in your brain that doesn't align with your biological sex.
24:06
SPEAKER_07: So that's why certain things like that happen.
24:07
SPEAKER_07: I'm just saying the argument is not allowed to do it.
24:10
SPEAKER_07: Because I just woke up one day and I want to be able to do that.
24:12
SPEAKER_06: Why would people go through all this trouble for no reason?
24:14
SPEAKER_07: It's actually how they feel.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: Not enough people are even doing that.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: So that's not a valid point.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm saying.
24:22
SPEAKER_07: It's not the same thing because biologically, two people do it.
24:25
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, your brain's not gonna identify races.
24:32
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead and scare everybody else.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: Um, so she was on a what show was it?
24:37
SPEAKER_11: Fuck Hillary Clinton.
24:38
SPEAKER_02: Wait, why are we doing that?
24:39
SPEAKER_02: Let's let's hear her out first.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: All she said was Fuck Hillary Clinton.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: Elaborate as you were, sir.
24:44
SPEAKER_02: She was on a does anybody know the show?
24:46
SPEAKER_02: Like, do we have that information?
24:47
SPEAKER_02: Or it doesn't really matter, right?
24:48
SPEAKER_02: So she was being interviewed by somebody, and in my opinion, the interviewer mixed up two, mixed up two uh black dudes, and she, you know, made a little quip and said, you know, they all look alike sarcastically.
25:01
SPEAKER_07: And the internet was set ablaze.
25:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: How do you guys feel about it?
25:09
SPEAKER_07: So I feel like I feel like some people understood why.
25:13
SPEAKER_07: Um, because I remember I saw different interviews on YouTube, and like there was this panel, I can't remember his show.
25:19
SPEAKER_07: You guys probably probably know his show, whatever.
25:22
SPEAKER_07: But basically they were um they were an older group of black panelists.
25:26
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and they were talking about playing the dozens, and that's how they felt like what Hillary Clinton did.
25:31
SPEAKER_07: Like she was making a joke on the interviewer.
25:33
SPEAKER_07: It wasn't it wasn't just because you know she felt like saying something racist.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: You want to play the audio?
25:38
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna play the audio.
25:40
SPEAKER_07: She was just she felt like it was a joke on the interviewer, and that's it, because she made the mistake.
25:45
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, play the audio.
25:45
SPEAKER_10: Play it play the audio.
25:46
SPEAKER_11: Here's uh we're gonna play the audio real quick.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I what do you think about the children essentially starting to get to that kind of colder?
26:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know they all look alike.
26:14
SPEAKER_03: No, they don't.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: Well, well done.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: Now, because the interviewer got owned, that's why she fucked up.
26:24
SPEAKER_02: And Hillary, you know, those need the bus, you know, like she normally does.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: But I don't think it was racially charged.
26:29
SPEAKER_07: I don't think it was either.
26:30
SPEAKER_10: Um, so the only thing is that we don't realize that no matter how a person feels or if they're racist or not, it doesn't change the fact that in their regular day-to-day conversations, this is what they hear and this is the context that's being taken.
26:46
SPEAKER_10: Referring to black people.
26:48
SPEAKER_10: So do you so it's I'm not taking her I'm not defending her or making excuses for her or even bashing her because for the simple fact that it's it's just a part of what she's naturally hearing, what she's a part of.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: I disagree with you.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: I honestly think she was just, you know, killing the interview.
27:08
SPEAKER_02: Trying to roast the interview.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like she fucked up.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the host fucked up, and she was just like, alright, you made a boo-boo.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna let you know that this is the joke, and that was it.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it had anything to do with race, personally, besides the context of the joke.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: My thing behind this.
27:21
SPEAKER_10: I'm just saying I didn't take offense to it because uh Well, you're not Jack.
27:25
SPEAKER_10: Oh you're not black, black.
27:27
SPEAKER_10: Those black guys, huh?
27:29
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, you know.
27:30
SPEAKER_10: So what am I?
27:31
SPEAKER_02: You're a yellow man.
27:32
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, so by the way, we're both from the same fucking island, by the way.
27:37
SPEAKER_10: The same fucking island.
27:39
SPEAKER_01: I just want to ask you a question, Ajamo.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: Why is he not considered black, but I am considered black.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: What makes me a black woman and not make him a black man?
27:47
SPEAKER_02: Um, first of all, I was joking.
27:49
SPEAKER_02: That's the first thing.
27:50
SPEAKER_06: No, he just do with the light-skinned jokes.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: He just put the light-skinned jokes.
27:59
SPEAKER_10: Damn.
28:00
SPEAKER_10: Woman?
28:00
SPEAKER_10: Nah, because you're thinking that we gotta go through the same bullshit that uh blacks have to go through.
28:10
SPEAKER_10: Because we're dealing with more shit from our own people than we're gonna do.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, you got that.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you got that.
28:13
SPEAKER_02: You got that.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll give you more shit for being a yellow man.
28:16
SPEAKER_10: Exactly.
28:16
SPEAKER_10: So people rag on you guys of the spectrum, but we're supposed to stay loyal to the other side when the fire's on.
28:22
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that's true.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: You have a different plate, not harder, different.
28:25
SPEAKER_02: House, field, you know.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: That's about it.
28:29
SPEAKER_02: Sort of easy.
28:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all right, right at a point.
28:32
SPEAKER_02: Like five minutes ago.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: I forgot it now.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh man, you gotta slow down, man.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: Or speed up one or two.
28:38
SPEAKER_07: How did you feel about the comment, man?
28:39
SPEAKER_07: I think that was the question.
28:42
SPEAKER_11: Um, as far as me personally, I see both sides of the argument.
28:52
SPEAKER_11: But my thing is she's a politician, correct?
28:54
SPEAKER_11: Yep.
28:55
SPEAKER_11: So she she should she have remained politically correct and not even joked.
28:59
SPEAKER_07: I think the whole discussion was about being politically correct.
29:02
SPEAKER_07: So I think that to Red to Red's point, I think that was one of the issues with the joke, like about political correctness, because that's what they were having a conversation about.
29:11
SPEAKER_07: Um so yeah, it wasn't the right, it wasn't right for her to say that.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'ma interject.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: I think Hillary going back to the election lost because she was too political.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: Trump put the whole shit on his head, like, yeah.
29:24
SPEAKER_02: Fuck that.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: We don't know.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: You have to say exactly the opposite.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: Fuck the PC.
29:27
SPEAKER_11: I bring this back to say had that been any other person up there to say that, would their reaction have been taken so lightly?
29:38
SPEAKER_11: Because you know America loves to kiss the Clintons' asses.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: From me, it would have been the same thing.
29:42
SPEAKER_02: But I get what you're saying.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: From the mass majority of people.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: Had Trump said that, it would have been tabloid everywhere.
29:48
SPEAKER_11: Had Pence said that.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: It would have been everywhere.
29:50
SPEAKER_02: Had fucking Johnson.
29:51
SPEAKER_11: He said worse.
29:52
SPEAKER_11: But no, no, no.
29:53
SPEAKER_11: And the point is, yes, yes, yes.
29:55
SPEAKER_11: I get what you're saying.
29:55
SPEAKER_11: No, no.
29:56
SPEAKER_11: Do you under it's being spun in a positive way because it's the Clintons.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: Right.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: I get it.
30:00
SPEAKER_11: You get what I mean?
30:01
SPEAKER_11: Like, had it been someone else on the other side.
30:04
SPEAKER_11: Had you know, would it it would it be taken this lightly?
30:07
SPEAKER_11: I don't think so.
30:07
SPEAKER_11: No, I see.
30:08
SPEAKER_11: You're absolutely right about that.
30:09
SPEAKER_02: And that's the the fucked up part about this whole thing, is that anybody should have been able to make that counter joke to the host of the show.
30:15
SPEAKER_11: Oh, you said and you said and you asked earlier why fuck Hillary Clinton.
30:18
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
30:18
SPEAKER_11: Super predator?
30:18
SPEAKER_11: Is that rubber wrong?
30:20
SPEAKER_11: Just Google Pizzagate.
30:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Pizzagate, that's not that's some dangerous shit.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: If it's true.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: If it's true.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: That's some yeah, she needs to go to hell.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: She's already there.
30:28
SPEAKER_10: Next.
30:30
SPEAKER_10: So um yeah.
30:31
SPEAKER_10: Fuck that bitch.
30:32
SPEAKER_10: All the predators are in control.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: Um, do you guys want to elaborate on Pizzagate a little bit or not?
30:37
SPEAKER_11: No, no, no, no, no.
30:38
SPEAKER_11: Let the listeners do their homework.
30:40
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
30:40
SPEAKER_02: Alright, cool.
30:41
SPEAKER_07: So next assignment.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Next assignment.
30:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, so if we're gonna stay political, nah, we don't want to have to stay political anymore.
30:50
SPEAKER_10: We need to get a little ratchet.
30:51
SPEAKER_07: We're gonna say, or continue with the with the trans, with the Wu-Tang makeup line.
30:56
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
30:57
SPEAKER_07: We can go there real quick, real quick.
31:00
SPEAKER_10: Um, really?
31:00
SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
31:01
SPEAKER_10: They say that.
31:02
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
31:03
SPEAKER_10: Wu Tang for the children?
31:04
SPEAKER_10: You know, us light-skinned people, we follow fast.
31:06
SPEAKER_10: I didn't say it.
31:07
SPEAKER_11: So go ahead, quick, quick.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, go ahead, uh, why does it have to be quick?
31:11
SPEAKER_02: Take your time.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: Can we quit?
31:12
SPEAKER_02: Let us let us all say.
31:15
SPEAKER_07: Just because you're uncomfortable.
31:16
SPEAKER_11: No, it's not because I'm uncomfortable.
31:19
SPEAKER_07: Alrighty.
31:19
SPEAKER_07: Well, Wu-Tang came out with a makeup collaboration with Milk Makeup.
31:25
SPEAKER_07: And I know Tiana Taylor, she's also been promoting it.
31:29
SPEAKER_07: She has a promotional video about it.
31:31
SPEAKER_07: So, how do you guys feel about the makeup line?
31:34
SPEAKER_02: Um What why would people buy this over Fenty and the Kylie shit?
31:41
SPEAKER_07: Well, the thing is, people, a lot of people like to collect makeup.
31:44
SPEAKER_07: So, like with different colors, wait, wait, what collect makeup?
31:47
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, there are people that like to because also the packaging is really is actually pretty dope, too.
31:52
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so some people do like to collect makeup because the pac the packaging is uh plays a big part into why people buy makeup.
32:00
SPEAKER_07: It's not always the colors or what type, but it's literally and also and also who the makeup brand is by.
32:05
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: So the quality of the makeup might necessarily not even matter.
32:10
SPEAKER_07: It might not.
32:11
SPEAKER_07: Because again, you don't know it till you buy it sometimes.
32:13
SPEAKER_07: You buy a lot of it is online shopping, so you don't know the quality.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: I heard that colour pop, the lipstick, and Kylie Jenner's line are literally made out of the same formula formula, I'm sorry, the same factory.
32:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you could get colour pop for like ten dollars and then Kylie Jenner's literally selling the same thing for like forty-fifty dollars.
32:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: So um why can somebody just tell me why Wu Tang outside so money is the motivation?
32:42
SPEAKER_02: Why Wu Tang clan is making because their core fan base is gonna purchase makeup?
32:48
SPEAKER_02: Wu Tang?
32:49
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
32:49
SPEAKER_02: Wu Tang is here for why is Wu Okay, Kylie, lips, makes sense.
32:55
SPEAKER_02: Rihanna, beauty, makes sense.
32:57
SPEAKER_02: Fenty.
32:58
SPEAKER_02: Wu Tang?
32:59
SPEAKER_02: Think about Wu Tang.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: You don't wait, think about Wuang.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: Don't you don't you dare glaze over Rihanna and Delphine?
33:05
SPEAKER_02: You mentioned Fenty, nigga.
33:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I didn't know the name, bro.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm sorry.
33:08
SPEAKER_07: Don't you dare you don't think they have um fans that are women?
33:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that's the niche.
33:15
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
33:15
SPEAKER_02: Like their fan is niggas stand island.
33:19
SPEAKER_10: I look at it like that.
33:21
SPEAKER_10: You know what?
33:22
SPEAKER_11: Not necessarily true, because if you think about it.
33:24
SPEAKER_10: If it goes by following, you can come out with anything.
33:27
SPEAKER_11: I just think about it, bro, not for nothing.
33:30
SPEAKER_11: And I can say this, I do know a lot of women who are Wu-Tang fans.
33:34
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
33:35
SPEAKER_11: Really?
33:35
SPEAKER_11: Yes.
33:36
SPEAKER_11: Um, a lot of them older.
33:38
SPEAKER_11: Oh, of course.
33:39
SPEAKER_11: I lose R further.
33:40
SPEAKER_11: But it's makeup is lipstick.
33:42
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
33:43
SPEAKER_07: That, you know what I'm saying?
33:44
SPEAKER_07: And men can buy it for their significant other.
33:47
SPEAKER_02: Let me ask you a question.
33:47
SPEAKER_02: The women that listen to Wu-Tang, right?
33:49
SPEAKER_02: Right.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: Are these the quality of women that are going to go out and purchase makeup?
33:53
SPEAKER_02: Or are they wearing other victims?
33:58
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm asking.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: You got the fucking Uncle Luke is coming out with another AG.
34:09
SPEAKER_02: That would make more sense to me personally.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: If Uncle Luke came out with boots with makeup, yeah.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: I'd support that.
34:16
SPEAKER_07: All women wear makeup now.
34:17
SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
34:18
SPEAKER_08: Like to the elderly years.
34:20
SPEAKER_11: Can I be objective?
34:21
SPEAKER_11: Can I be objective?
34:22
SPEAKER_11: Always.
34:22
SPEAKER_11: Can I be objective?
34:23
SPEAKER_11: Always.
34:25
SPEAKER_11: Besides okay.
34:27
SPEAKER_11: The woo.
34:28
SPEAKER_11: What's the whole thing behind that?
34:30
SPEAKER_02: The tang part?
34:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know.
34:32
SPEAKER_02: Who?
34:32
SPEAKER_02: What?
34:32
SPEAKER_02: What?
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Wu way.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Asian, right?
34:34
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
34:37
SPEAKER_09: How can you look at your black?
34:39
SPEAKER_02: Listen, right, I understand.
34:43
SPEAKER_10: Makeup because on that side of the, no, on seriously, on that side of the globe, Wu Tang never died.
34:48
SPEAKER_10: Right.
34:48
SPEAKER_10: For us, it like toned down to the biggest.
34:50
SPEAKER_10: Oh no, in Asia, oh my god.
34:51
SPEAKER_10: The way that you dress, too, it's still back in the 90s.
34:54
SPEAKER_10: So if that's your following, even the men and women wear makeup over there.
34:58
SPEAKER_07: And men wear lipstick in Asia as well.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: Did you hold on to that for one second?
35:02
SPEAKER_02: Not even the men wearing makeup part.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: I want to talk about, but like I want to finish this conversation first.
35:07
SPEAKER_02: But I want to talk about the whole Asian.
35:12
SPEAKER_02: Nah, like their whole community kind of riding behind.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: Like they did blackface, like they still kind of do blackface.
35:18
SPEAKER_02: And it's like the Tamagotchi girls.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: Like they I want to I want to talk about that.
35:22
SPEAKER_07: Asia's a whole nother universe.
35:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I kind of want to touch on that because like we have this whole debate about cultural appropriation all the time.
35:28
SPEAKER_11: There's no racism in Asia.
35:29
SPEAKER_11: There's no racism.
35:30
SPEAKER_11: They're all Asian.
35:31
SPEAKER_11: That's it.
35:31
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
35:32
SPEAKER_11: That's it.
35:33
SPEAKER_11: Well, there's classic.
35:34
SPEAKER_11: There's classics.
35:35
SPEAKER_11: They know the difference.
35:36
SPEAKER_11: They open up Shop in the Hood and they serve and sling you fried chicken at a low price, nigga.
35:43
SPEAKER_11: How do they treat you?
35:44
SPEAKER_02: How do they treat you?
35:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't have issues with you.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: You've never had a negative issue with an Asian delivery man?
35:48
SPEAKER_02: They also have colorism in Asia, though, too.
35:53
SPEAKER_07: They have colorism in Asia too.
35:55
SPEAKER_07: With the darker Asians, yeah.
35:57
SPEAKER_02: Alright, let's get back to Wu Tang before we go there.
35:59
SPEAKER_02: I definitely want to go there though.
36:00
SPEAKER_02: But um I don't like taking food from people who don't like me.
36:03
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I that's a very smart way to you know.
36:05
SPEAKER_07: So I think they did it as just a way to make money.
36:07
SPEAKER_07: Because makeup is like a billion-dollar industry, and trillion.
36:12
SPEAKER_07: And the way that they designed the lipstick, too, even I would buy it, and I don't even like fucking wear lipstick.
36:16
SPEAKER_07: So I think they just did it for money.
36:18
SPEAKER_06: Not because, not for any other reason besides that.
36:21
SPEAKER_02: So how do you think would be a good idea?
36:22
SPEAKER_02: They're like, oh, Kylie Jenner.
36:24
SPEAKER_02: Is a billionaire in three years.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: But I just don't understand.
36:27
SPEAKER_02: Like, if I'm in marketing, right, I don't know how I sell Wu-Tang makeup.
36:31
SPEAKER_11: You don't know what's behind it.
36:32
SPEAKER_11: This could be a surprise roll-off.
36:33
SPEAKER_11: Why does Rihanna have a makeup?
36:35
SPEAKER_11: You don't know this.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: Because Rihanna is one of the fashion icons.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
36:38
SPEAKER_05: They could be using it as a marketing toy.
36:41
SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
36:42
SPEAKER_02: Alright, yeah, hold on.
36:42
SPEAKER_02: Get to your point, please.
36:44
SPEAKER_10: Rihanna will never make a song, a track that's produced by or made by Wu-Tang.
36:50
SPEAKER_10: It's already happened.
36:52
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
36:52
SPEAKER_10: Anything Drake.
36:53
SPEAKER_10: Well, I can't say anything Drake, but Okay, I get what you're saying.
36:56
SPEAKER_10: Alright, so that's Wu Tang fans.
36:58
SPEAKER_10: Listen, once you realize you have a following and somebody's making a billion dollars on makeup, why not introduce yourself into the market?
37:06
SPEAKER_07: Because it also can introduce the uh the younger generations to their music.
37:10
SPEAKER_07: It's like, oh, who's the Wu-Tang club?
37:12
SPEAKER_10: That's again exactly.
37:13
SPEAKER_10: Opening the question.
37:14
SPEAKER_07: Conversation rules and their royalties through that.
37:17
SPEAKER_02: And they also have a transgendered model, y'all said.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: And they requested her.
37:22
SPEAKER_02: I actually have to do it.
37:23
SPEAKER_02: That is genius.
37:24
SPEAKER_07: Do they have a few or is it just a marketing at Nikita Dragon?
37:27
SPEAKER_07: So that's what I'm saying.
37:27
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, exactly.
37:28
SPEAKER_07: I wouldn't do it.
37:28
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so Nikita Dragon is a model.
37:30
SPEAKER_07: She's Asian as well.
37:31
SPEAKER_07: I don't know exactly from what country.
37:33
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
37:34
SPEAKER_07: But she's a big thing.
37:34
SPEAKER_07: But she's a trans woman.
37:35
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
37:35
SPEAKER_07: She was.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: So she's a man that transitions to a woman and identifies as a woman.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
37:40
SPEAKER_07: And is attracted to men.
37:42
SPEAKER_07: I believe.
37:43
SPEAKER_07: I think so.
37:43
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I believe so.
37:44
SPEAKER_07: Most of her.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: But are men attracted to her?
37:47
SPEAKER_07: Well, I think.
37:48
SPEAKER_07: She's had boyfriends.
37:49
SPEAKER_07: She's had boyfriends.
37:50
SPEAKER_07: I've seen some cute boyfriends at that.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: With straight men?
37:54
unknown: Probably.
37:55
SPEAKER_07: The thing is.
37:55
SPEAKER_07: I don't think they're all the way, like, I don't think they're all the way straight.
37:59
SPEAKER_06: Some of them wear makeup at some point.
38:01
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: So they're not straight then.
38:03
SPEAKER_07: But they're still men.
38:04
SPEAKER_07: I don't know, because I guess with the classification of straight men, would be you'd be uh attracted to cisgender women.
38:10
SPEAKER_07: But I get what you mean by what you mean straight men, as like a macho man or something.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: I think we take it another way too.
38:17
SPEAKER_07: It could be pansexual sexual men.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: I think it could be pansexual men.
38:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think they're pansexual men.
38:24
SPEAKER_07: But yes, so she is promoting the Wu-Tang.
38:27
SPEAKER_07: I don't know why words bother you guys so much.
38:29
SPEAKER_07: It's just a few, a few new words.
38:30
SPEAKER_07: Just learn them and that's the same.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: No, it's totally totally.
38:33
SPEAKER_07: You don't even have to learn them because they're not a part of your life.
38:35
SPEAKER_07: Is that what the purpose for the purposes of this podcast?
38:39
SPEAKER_07: Do you interact with transgender or pansex?
38:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna try to get a transsexual member to pull up to the podcast and debate me on their lifestyle.
38:48
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, but that's what I'm saying.
38:49
SPEAKER_07: I'm saying you guys are like, uh, new words, uh-huh, but you don't really have to change your life.
38:54
SPEAKER_07: You don't really have to change your life.
38:56
SPEAKER_11: No, you know, you know what it is, you know what it is?
38:58
SPEAKER_11: It's the fact, it's the language.
39:00
SPEAKER_11: As Dave Chappelle said, No, it's not no no, it's the simple fact that they get so much favored treatment over black people who by who?
39:12
SPEAKER_07: That's why they said by who?
39:13
SPEAKER_07: It's because they they have they may have more money, more advocacy.
39:16
SPEAKER_07: That's it.
39:17
SPEAKER_07: That's it.
39:18
SPEAKER_07: Like point.
39:19
SPEAKER_11: That's what I say.
39:20
SPEAKER_11: That's why I say it was so much easier for Bruce Jenner to change his gender than it was for Cassius Clay to change his fucking name.
39:26
SPEAKER_10: Facts.
39:27
SPEAKER_10: Mohammed Ali for the people in that.
39:28
SPEAKER_07: But again, that's by who?
39:30
SPEAKER_10: The government.
39:31
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
39:31
SPEAKER_07: So that's what I'm saying.
39:32
SPEAKER_07: That's not their fault.
39:34
SPEAKER_07: We always go.
39:34
SPEAKER_07: If they have more advocacy groups, if they have more money funding them, that's just that's how it is.
39:40
SPEAKER_07: But that doesn't mean this you shouldn't have some sort of hate.
39:44
SPEAKER_07: That doesn't mean you shouldn't hold some sort of hate in your heart because of that.
39:47
SPEAKER_07: That's just that's just how the fucking government is.
39:49
SPEAKER_07: For them, I guess it's easier to swallow, giving more rights to trans people than it is.
39:53
SPEAKER_02: It's easier to swallow.
39:55
SPEAKER_02: That's how it is for some people.
39:56
SPEAKER_05: They're like, okay, I'll pass I'll pass this bill, but they still might be racist.
40:02
SPEAKER_10: If we're sitting here talking about the difference of what your mind is, every single brain is different than the other on the earth.
40:08
SPEAKER_10: And racism, racism is we decide to group ourselves into these titles that we want to acclimate ourselves to or what we feel that we are.
40:18
SPEAKER_10: Why I think it's besides that, it doesn't really matter.
40:22
SPEAKER_11: If we focus on the things that make us all better as a whole, as opposed to what we rather can um describe uh I think a better a better way of saying a better way of saying that, I think a better way of saying that is to con to concentrate on our similarities more so than our differences.
40:39
SPEAKER_07: Okay, that's the way to go.
40:40
SPEAKER_07: So then, but but again, I understand the similarities part.
40:43
SPEAKER_08: But I was gonna say why I think it's hard is that racism has been around a lot longer than that than the whole LGBTQI community.
40:51
SPEAKER_08: Not at all.
40:51
SPEAKER_08: So it's in great that that's behind it.
40:54
SPEAKER_08: So I think back in the day they were they would be a good thing.
40:58
SPEAKER_08: But I'm saying it was not a movement and it was not a giant oppression like it was for black people.
41:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it wasn't a full-blown oppression for 270 years like that.
41:08
SPEAKER_06: It wasn't the same.
41:09
SPEAKER_06: So that's why I think it that's gonna take a lot longer to get past than this whole trans, you know, the LGBTQI.
41:17
SPEAKER_06: Excuse me?
41:20
SPEAKER_06: The LGBTQI community.
41:22
SPEAKER_10: Hey, what about it?
41:23
SPEAKER_06: It's I'm saying the reason why racism is a lot harder to overcome, or why it feels like people are focusing more on the LGBTQI community, is I'm saying racism has been a has been around a lot longer.
41:37
SPEAKER_06: So it's been embedded in so many well white people because we're not racist.
41:41
SPEAKER_06: And I'm saying I have no problem with people being different than I am, but I'm saying it's gonna take a lot more time to overcome because it's been around for so long, and it's like a disease and a virus.
41:51
SPEAKER_06: A disease and a virus that you kind of have to fucking kill slowly, as opposed to because of who's in because of the city.
41:57
SPEAKER_07: That LGBTQI community has not been around longer and has not been oppressed.
42:03
SPEAKER_07: No, it has not been oppressed as much.
42:05
SPEAKER_08: So I'm saying that's why they're they're like it's fine, because they don't care about it as much.
42:09
SPEAKER_08: You get what I'm saying?
42:10
SPEAKER_10: Not at all.
42:11
SPEAKER_07: So think about it in terms, think about it in terms of what they can get passed right through the government, right?
42:16
SPEAKER_07: So in terms of the LGBTQ, it's a it is a lot of white people, like you know, that are that are advocates or whatever.
42:23
SPEAKER_07: So in that sense, if you can get um the people in the government to pass laws, you know, to benefit them, it might be easier for them than it would be black people because they may be racist against black people.
42:34
SPEAKER_07: So you get what I'm saying?
42:35
SPEAKER_07: In terms of government policy, exactly what they do exactly.
42:39
SPEAKER_10: So why is that good?
42:41
SPEAKER_07: It's not good, but it's not their fault.
42:43
SPEAKER_07: It's terrible.
42:44
SPEAKER_07: It's not good, but it's not their fault.
42:45
SPEAKER_07: It's not their fault.
42:46
SPEAKER_07: It doesn't mean it's more better, it doesn't mean it's more important.
42:49
SPEAKER_07: It doesn't give them an excuse to do that, to oppress one more over the other.
42:54
SPEAKER_07: No, because you guys were saying that was one of the points that you guys brought up.
42:57
SPEAKER_07: That it seems like people care more about them than they do about issues facing black people, which is not, which is not, I don't think it's not really it's not right either way.
43:06
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, exactly.
43:06
SPEAKER_07: It's just what they've been able to get past.
43:09
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: Um we have a lot of interesting thoughts on this topic, and I feel like we talk about this topic a lot.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: Rightfully so.
43:17
SPEAKER_02: And um, I think we should just shift gears a little bit.
43:20
SPEAKER_02: So we don't we don't really I see what you did there.
43:24
SPEAKER_02: We don't have really too many ratchet uh we'd shift gears in the car topic.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a transmission, I think.
43:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't uh we don't have too many uh ratchet topics this week because you know a lot of ratchet shit in happen.
43:38
SPEAKER_02: But um we had a topic about social media that I wanted to speak about.
43:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, you actually want to speak about KO show.
43:45
SPEAKER_02: Um it's the world of social media influencers.
43:49
SPEAKER_02: So can you kind of uh take us through that a little bit?
43:53
SPEAKER_07: No, so I saw this video um about this guy talking about what exactly are these social media.
44:00
SPEAKER_07: Media influencers um influencing others to do?
44:03
SPEAKER_07: Is it positive?
44:04
SPEAKER_07: Um is it bad, or um what agendas are they pushing?
44:10
SPEAKER_07: You know, so that was uh topic because now it's like a viable career.
44:14
SPEAKER_07: These people on Instagram and these people on YouTube, they make tons, thousands, thousands, thousands, thousands of dollars.
44:21
SPEAKER_02: I um who is like okay, you see how in hip hop you can say we got Drake or Kendrick or J.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: Cole.
44:28
SPEAKER_02: Who is like the number one, two, three, four, five person that is an influencer?
44:33
SPEAKER_02: So we can kind of get like a basic.
44:34
SPEAKER_07: So I think Lily Singh and Liza something, they're like one of the top also.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I know exactly.
44:43
SPEAKER_07: She's she's uh Yeah, they have like 15, yeah, they yeah, those are those are two inning girls.
44:47
SPEAKER_07: They have like 15, 16 million followers on YouTube.
44:50
SPEAKER_07: Then there was that what was that white guy's name that got into that controversy.
44:56
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
44:57
SPEAKER_07: There's this, he was he's this blonde guy.
44:59
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, Logan, yeah, Logan something.
45:01
SPEAKER_02: So he went to um he went to the forest of death or suicide.
45:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he uh And he has a lot of followers and he uh he went to the forest of death in Japan, and that's a place where people go to commit suicide, and he recorded a dead body, put it on YouTube, and his fan base is like 10-year-old little girls and stuff.
45:18
SPEAKER_02: So it was very uh controversial.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: But my thing is a social media influencer, what's the difference between that and like a like a person that went to school for marketing or a brand ambassador?
45:32
SPEAKER_07: So for that, they've just for social media influencers, they've just pr pretty much like gained a following like on their own, either just because they were pretty or whatever, or you know, either they specialize in makeup or hair.
45:44
SPEAKER_07: So a lot of those influencers basically built up their own brand just on Instagram, and um so they a lot of them didn't go to school for that.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: So you think it's easier to make a hundred thousand dollars or get a hundred thousand followers?
45:57
SPEAKER_02: Which one's easier?
45:59
SPEAKER_02: It depends on what you're selling.
46:01
SPEAKER_07: I think it's probably easier.
46:03
SPEAKER_07: I think it's probably easier to get a hundred thousand followers.
46:05
SPEAKER_02: Than a hundred thousand dollars?
46:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, if I was a woman.
46:09
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, but if I was a woman, I would definitely get a hundred thousand followers than the money.
46:13
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
46:14
SPEAKER_07: And because if you get the right pages to promote you, you get the hundred thousand followers.
46:20
SPEAKER_07: If you get pages with millions of followers to promote you, equal a hundred thousand dollars.
46:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so what is more valuable in today's market?
46:26
SPEAKER_02: A hundred thousand dollars or a hundred thousand followers?
46:27
SPEAKER_07: It depends on your exactly, it depends on what you're trying to do.
46:30
SPEAKER_07: Like if you want to be in that world.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: Is that product is that you're gonna be able to do it?
46:33
SPEAKER_02: Okay, somebody comes to us tomorrow, podcast.
46:36
SPEAKER_11: This is one of the only topics where you say, Where's Zap?
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: But you know, fuck Zap.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: So uh somebody comes to this podcast tomorrow.
46:44
SPEAKER_02: Somebody comes to the podcast tomorrow, and we're in the room, we're all gonna deliberate, and the guy's like, listen, I can give y'all a hundred thousand dollars, or I can guarantee you a hundred thousand listens every week.
46:54
SPEAKER_10: I'll take the dollars because I don't know what the dollars I know what to do with the money as opposed to the following because I don't have a product.
47:00
SPEAKER_10: No, no, the product is this possible.
47:03
SPEAKER_02: Some nigga walks in here tomorrow and he's like, Listen, fellas, I can give it ladies and gents, I'm sorry, I can give you guys a hundred thousand dollars cash or I can guarantee you a hundred thousand listens weekly.
47:14
SPEAKER_02: What are we doing?
47:15
SPEAKER_02: I'll take that hundred thousand listens.
47:18
SPEAKER_11: See, see, there's a difference right here.
47:20
SPEAKER_11: I'll take a hundred thousand listens because you can take that you can take those listens.
47:24
SPEAKER_11: Well, if you can guarantee a hundred thousand listens a week.
47:27
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, a week.
47:27
SPEAKER_11: Okay, do you know how many advertising um people will be trying to pay you?
47:33
SPEAKER_11: And that hundred thousand dollars that you would have taken, you could have gotten two, three times that amount.
47:38
SPEAKER_02: So, like I said, I started off this argument with what is more valuable in today's market, a hundred thousand dollars.
47:44
SPEAKER_11: You already said it depends on what you're selling.
47:46
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
47:46
SPEAKER_11: So this is on on this I would take that.
47:49
SPEAKER_11: I would take the hundred thousand listeners weekly.
47:52
SPEAKER_07: Okay, because then again, you might want to use the money to try to get more listeners, but if you already have the listeners, which is the goal, might as well just take that.
48:00
SPEAKER_02: So are social media influencers working backwards or are they working forward?
48:04
SPEAKER_10: They're creating uh a different plane of growth.
48:08
SPEAKER_10: So it's not taking away from one or taking away from the other, it's uh allowing you to expand in another way.
48:17
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I was gonna say it's a good and bad thing.
48:19
SPEAKER_07: I mean, they make a living, so that's a way for them to make a living, but as in like the consumers, like they make people feel like they need certain things that they don't need.
48:28
SPEAKER_06: So we're so it's a lot it's really materialistic.
48:31
SPEAKER_06: Like now we're in a society where it's like we feel like we need like every little thing that pops up in our feed when we don't.
48:37
SPEAKER_08: Every new iPhone every time.
48:38
SPEAKER_08: So it's it's kind of a bad thing as well.
48:40
SPEAKER_07: Take my money, yeah, yeah.
48:41
SPEAKER_07: Especially in the natural hair community, like you have so many products, so like you'll try this one or you'll try that one, and then next thing you know, you have like a whole store yourself.
48:51
SPEAKER_07: And you don't use any of them.
48:53
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, and you don't use any of them.
48:55
SPEAKER_07: Like for me, I actually never store when I was first starting, like, I used five or six different products, but now I use the five.
49:03
SPEAKER_02: What was your motivation?
49:05
SPEAKER_07: To grow out my hair?
49:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
49:06
SPEAKER_07: Well, for me, initially what happened, I had since middle school, I think my our mom started straightening our hair, and then we got perms, la da la.
49:15
SPEAKER_07: And then in like junior year, senior year of high school, I started cutting my hair, dyeing my hair, bleaching it.
49:22
SPEAKER_07: You're not supposed to bleach it when you have a perm, my hair started falling out, so I got a pixie cut, and then after that, I just screw it up.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: Do you think there was a societal pressure to do all these zany things with your hair?
49:35
unknown: Yes.
49:35
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, definitely to definitely to straighten it.
49:37
SPEAKER_07: Because even so, my hair is curly, but it's so there's different classifications of hair.
49:42
SPEAKER_07: Um, so like my curls were like 3B, 3C.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
49:46
SPEAKER_07: Wait to get it.
49:49
SPEAKER_00: I just learned what that was too.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: Can we come back to the minute?
49:54
SPEAKER_10: My hair is three B.
49:59
SPEAKER_07: Because different types of hair are discriminated against, right?
50:03
SPEAKER_07: Like, so like my curly hair wouldn't be it's considered like the pretty type of hair.
50:07
SPEAKER_07: But my sister, my little sister, has like 4A hair, right?
50:10
SPEAKER_07: Which is basically it's kinkier, right?
50:13
SPEAKER_07: It's more, it's more of an afro texture, right?
50:15
SPEAKER_07: Tighter curls.
50:16
SPEAKER_07: And even if even in my household, like our grandma and our mom would be like, comb your hair.
50:21
SPEAKER_07: Like every time she would have it a little for maybe be frizzy, like they'll be like, comb your hair or whatever.
50:26
SPEAKER_07: So it's like for her, I feel like she feels a little more um pressure to keep her hair tamed or to straighten it or whatever.
50:33
SPEAKER_01: The amount of time is beautiful if your hair's not straight.
50:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
50:38
SPEAKER_08: And they because they want it in the end, too, right?
50:42
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, in the Dominican book, the amount of time.
50:45
SPEAKER_06: The amount of time, the amount of time and money I spent on all those years of straightening my hair.
50:49
SPEAKER_06: I could have gotten my PhD in something.
50:52
SPEAKER_06: It was exhausting to have to do your hair and like straighten it every goddamn week.
50:57
SPEAKER_02: So for the Spanish community, European looks are beautiful, are beautiful, and African heritage is frowned upon.
51:06
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yes, it is.
51:07
SPEAKER_06: Skin color as well.
51:10
SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of colorism in the Dominican Republic as well.
51:13
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
51:14
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
51:15
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, our mom is a white Dominican and our dad is a black Dominican.
51:18
SPEAKER_07: Even today.
51:18
SPEAKER_02: All Dominicans are.
51:20
SPEAKER_07: No, there's different types.
51:21
SPEAKER_07: Just how there's different types of Hispanic people.
51:23
SPEAKER_07: They're Hispanic for that reason.
51:26
SPEAKER_07: If that's why it's more of a that's why they categorize it as an ethnicity.
51:30
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
51:31
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
51:32
SPEAKER_02: I just think that um there needs to.
51:34
SPEAKER_02: I think there was a miseducation of uh Latin communities.
51:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:39
SPEAKER_02: No, that's true.
51:40
SPEAKER_02: Because um, like a Mexican person, they can literally go to a white man and be like, yo, Mexic California is Mexico.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: Texas is Mexico.
51:50
SPEAKER_02: Say that you took Trump if they fucking want to.
51:52
SPEAKER_02: No, they can't say that you took Trump.
51:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't want them to end up dead.
51:55
SPEAKER_02: Like, I just want them to understand.
51:56
SPEAKER_02: Raised up, sir.
51:57
SPEAKER_02: They should be more like, listen, the the people of this place was originally my people.
52:02
SPEAKER_02: The Spaniards came in and changed that.
52:04
SPEAKER_02: We didn't even speak this language.
52:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, and I think it's especially with Dominican people, they're mixed with, you know, Native American, African, and they focus on European people.
52:16
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't understand, but I I get it because you're like, It's like brainwashing for all those years.
52:22
SPEAKER_07: That's what they saw on TV.
52:23
SPEAKER_07: So that's another way in terms of how media influences.
52:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the girl from Love and Hip Hop, Amada La Negra.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but then there's people that also attack her that say that she's playing up her blackness too much to get because it's in, it's in now to be Afro-Latina.
52:39
SPEAKER_02: So what now is too much?
52:45
SPEAKER_07: To be honest, I think she's doing it so she can be that role model for other girls that look like her.
52:51
SPEAKER_07: That's what she does.
52:53
SPEAKER_07: I don't think so.
52:54
SPEAKER_07: I don't think so.
52:54
SPEAKER_07: Because like, like she was saying, like, you grow up and every novela is all these they all look the freaking same too.
53:01
SPEAKER_07: Like, if you watch all the novelas, it's always those girls with beautiful eyes, beautiful hair, KK Castillo.
53:05
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
53:06
SPEAKER_07: They have they have white skin, and that's who we always saw.
53:09
SPEAKER_07: That's how that's what we always saw on TV.
53:12
SPEAKER_07: So for her, I think she really wants to play it up because she does want to be the role model for all those black girls that didn't have one growing up in the Hispanic.
53:19
SPEAKER_07: And her playing it up would only make it tougher sometimes because like there aren't you know singers like her around right now.
53:25
SPEAKER_07: Like, there's no like who else do you think that's in the Hispanic community?
53:29
SPEAKER_02: In the Spanish community, it probably isn't.
53:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:31
SPEAKER_02: But this is my thing.
53:32
SPEAKER_02: She wants to cross into the American market, which her style is welcomed already.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but why does she why doesn't she just focus on the Latin community if they're not welcomed there?
53:45
SPEAKER_02: Which Latin star, black skinned or white-skinned, well, black skinned majority, is like popular in Latin community?
53:52
SPEAKER_02: Because I don't know.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: Like which Diego Calderon.
53:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know who that is.
53:55
SPEAKER_02: He's a dark-skinned dude?
53:56
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Diego Calderon is black.
53:57
SPEAKER_07: He's like Puerto Rican.
53:58
SPEAKER_07: He's like brown.
53:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay, and but majority of the.
54:00
SPEAKER_07: I would say a lot of like Dembo artists now that are Dominican, but they're mainly, I mean, they're not that dark, too.
54:05
SPEAKER_07: I can't think of one.
54:06
SPEAKER_07: El Alpha.
54:07
SPEAKER_10: He's a Puerto Rican dude in Fast and the Furious, whatever.
54:09
SPEAKER_10: No, yeah, he's he's sort of light.
54:11
SPEAKER_04: He's lighter than us.
54:11
SPEAKER_04: He's light, he's lighter.
54:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because like Bad Bunny, um, what's the other dude?
54:16
SPEAKER_02: Like all of these dudes are like like Daddy Yankee, like these dudes fair skin.
54:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, very fair skin.
54:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I think Donald's brown.
54:23
SPEAKER_07: He's like, Don Omar is brown, so that's like my complexion.
54:27
SPEAKER_02: I personally think Amara La Negra would do more, like you know, she would do better if she stayed in the Latin community and tried to be like, listen, we should all promote each other.
54:36
SPEAKER_02: And listen, dark-skinned people can also be praised there.
54:40
SPEAKER_02: That's just I think crossing over into the American market to do the same thing that Sissar, Rihanna, Beyonce has already been doing for years isn't really good.
54:47
SPEAKER_10: I'm sorry to uh go back to the backtrack into what we were speaking of before about a later topic.
54:53
SPEAKER_10: That's what I'm saying.
54:54
SPEAKER_10: We're talking about this uh we're uh making this separate segregation and gender and all that is such a big conversation.
55:01
SPEAKER_10: Meanwhile, we're discrediting or not even discrediting, we're not acknowledging that we still have a big race racial issue that we need to address within our own community.
55:11
SPEAKER_02: So we're ready to say like racism is like uh red and red disagreed, so I really want to hear what he has to say.
55:19
SPEAKER_11: Um where there's a lot of mixed um mixed children.
55:33
SPEAKER_11: So there's a lot of black and uh Latino Latina children.
55:41
SPEAKER_11: But I uh yes, but you have to understand at the same time it's platinos and collagens, it's two different things at the same time.
55:47
SPEAKER_11: As much as as much as it as much as much platinos, I don't know.
55:51
SPEAKER_11: As much, as much as the same we are, we're we have different cultural things or whatever.
55:58
SPEAKER_11: So listen, when you have a Latina who's fair skin or you know, she may be darker or something like that, but there's no darker Latinas to look up to the moment right there, like she's identifying with that um side of her culture as well.
56:28
SPEAKER_02: I definitely understand what you're saying, but who do you think really needs it more?
56:33
SPEAKER_02: The people that are already in this country that has it doesn't have to be a Latina person, but they have somebody that looks like them but represented already.
56:42
SPEAKER_07: But those are two different identities, I think is his point.
56:45
SPEAKER_07: You know what I'm saying?
56:45
SPEAKER_07: So like now you have someone who's black and Hispanic.
56:48
SPEAKER_07: You know what I'm saying?
56:49
SPEAKER_07: We have Hispanic, we have black.
56:51
SPEAKER_07: But do you have a black Hispanic?
56:52
SPEAKER_07: I think so that's where the deficit lies, because those are two things, those are two things that are part of their identity.
56:58
SPEAKER_07: So who do you think needs that more?
56:59
SPEAKER_07: So it's like why can't I look for it in one per in one person?
57:02
SPEAKER_02: But who do you think needs that more?
57:03
SPEAKER_02: The person that's already living in America in this market, yeah, because there's a lot of Hispanics in America, yeah.
57:08
SPEAKER_07: I agree with you.
57:09
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but like by in a couple decades, we're gonna be like 40% of the population.
57:13
SPEAKER_02: I think a person in in DR would uh benefit better than a person in America, because a person in America doesn't look and say, there's nobody that represents me.
57:23
SPEAKER_02: I think there is.
57:24
SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of people.
57:25
SPEAKER_07: I think there is a lot of people who are not.
57:26
SPEAKER_02: Who has the majority of the stuff?
57:27
SPEAKER_07: I understand that, but it's still it can still be a bigger market than in that in that old, you know, in that small island.
57:35
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
57:35
SPEAKER_07: I'm just saying, I get what you're saying, but I think it is needed in America because again, like we were saying, we have a lot of Hispanic artists in America, and we have a lot of black artists in America.
57:43
SPEAKER_07: But there isn't a lot of dark-skinned Hispanic artists.
57:45
SPEAKER_02: What does Cardi B consider herself?
57:47
SPEAKER_07: She's Dominican in Trini.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: Okay, what does she tell her?
57:49
SPEAKER_02: What does she describe herself as?
57:51
SPEAKER_07: I actually have no idea.
57:53
SPEAKER_02: She always says the same thing.
57:55
SPEAKER_02: What does she say?
57:56
SPEAKER_02: She's a Spanish girl.
57:57
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
57:58
SPEAKER_02: Besides that, she's a Spanish girl, but y'all can't tell her she's not black.
58:02
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
58:04
SPEAKER_07: But again, she's light skinned, so it's different.
58:05
SPEAKER_07: I don't, I don't know.
58:06
SPEAKER_07: No, but I I get what you mean.
58:08
SPEAKER_07: Because I feel like people, girls, young girls in DR would benefit more from uh Amara because it's like, yeah, they don't have a lot of role models there, and colorism is really bad over there.
58:16
SPEAKER_06: It's not like it's not like here where it's uh accepted a lot more, and DR is like really bad.
58:22
SPEAKER_06: Well, we have it in our own family.
58:23
SPEAKER_07: I was insecure my entire childhood, even being there.
58:27
SPEAKER_07: So because listen, imagine growing up with a mom who's fairly skin or whatever, and then we were the darker skinned children.
58:33
SPEAKER_07: Because she our listen, our grandmother, she never treated us any way, anyway at all.
58:39
SPEAKER_07: Um, any differently because of our skin color, but like you hear different things about how they talk about black people or Haitian, especially Haitian people in DR.
58:46
SPEAKER_07: And it's really, it's really messed up, or it's like they'd be like, Oh, why are you so like stupid kids?
58:50
SPEAKER_07: Like, why are you so dark?
58:51
SPEAKER_07: I'm like, Because I was born this way.
58:53
SPEAKER_07: Like, what?
58:53
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, like who asked me?
58:55
SPEAKER_07: Like, damn, you're black exactly.
58:56
SPEAKER_07: It's like, yes, I did it on purpose.
58:58
SPEAKER_07: I tanned.
58:59
SPEAKER_01: Even though I have fair skin and green eyes, I was still made fun of in my own family because I have kinky hair.
59:06
SPEAKER_01: Like they used to cut my eyes.
59:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
59:08
SPEAKER_01: No, and it was really bad because I felt like there was something wrong with me.
59:13
SPEAKER_01: Straight hair, like my cousins, and it was just like, yo, but stop.
59:19
SPEAKER_11: They do anything to just like just hack at your self-step.
59:22
SPEAKER_11: Are you tearing up over there?
59:24
SPEAKER_02: You better you better man up.
59:25
SPEAKER_08: No, but it is it's just like it's a sad thing how like even your own family will try to break you down for being different.
59:32
SPEAKER_08: And it's like, man.
59:35
SPEAKER_08: For real.
59:35
SPEAKER_08: It'd be your own family.
59:38
SPEAKER_08: Be your niggas.
59:39
SPEAKER_02: This is my last question on the topic.
59:41
SPEAKER_02: Um, for Dominican households or you know, your your family, do you guys ever really speak about the origins of your people?
59:49
SPEAKER_02: Or is that just something that never gets brought up?
59:52
SPEAKER_07: Well, I know for my so mind you, we grew up with my mom's side of the family.
59:56
SPEAKER_07: Um, so I know like they came from Jerusalem, Lebanon.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_07: So like my grandmother's family, exactly.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_02: They came I don't mean your immediate family, I mean like the island itself.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, how did we end up as the people?
1:00:09
SPEAKER_07: No, I actually think that's what I'm saying.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so when you eventually have children, if you want to have children, yeah, do you plan on teaching them like listen, we are the way we are because of blah blah blah blah blah, or are you gonna continue?
1:00:24
SPEAKER_02: Hey, let the let the universe teach you how that's a good question.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_07: That's a good question.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_07: I feel like I would teach them, yeah, but I'm not having kids.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_07: Because for me, I would want me to not have a kids.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_07: Wait, why not?
1:00:36
SPEAKER_07: I'm not.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_07: It's a no-go for me.
1:00:38
unknown: We haven't said that we need one.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_07: We're having this conversation.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_08: I will have I'm terrified.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_08: No.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_08: There's so many reasons for me not to have kids.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_08: I'm on KC.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_02: As a kid, they just adding on an added.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_08: No, I'm not because it's not in the world reading of this kid.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_08: We're over 100%.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_08: It's just I know you have an issue with that.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_08: There's a lot of issues.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_07: You don't think seven trillion, seven freaking she is nothing other people isn't enough?
1:01:10
SPEAKER_07: Not me.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_11: Because she's like the same thing in it.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_11: Children related.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_11: I'm not interested in the kids.
1:01:15
SPEAKER_11: I'll know what they look like if she has kids.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_11: I'm not interested in anyone under the age of 25.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_11: Fuck that shit.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_11: I don't care.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_10: Oh my god.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_10: Well, listen, eh.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_10: I don't want to have any children in New York City.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_01: You don't want a legacy?
1:01:26
SPEAKER_01: You don't want a little you to see it.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_01: A legacy?
1:01:29
SPEAKER_11: Uh I think Subaru makes one of that.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_11: I can buy one.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_08: No, the thing is the way that this planet's going, it's very scary.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_08: Like, I don't want to any children.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_08: Who knows how many generations we have left, but I don't think it's much.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_08: So that's another reason why I don't want to have children.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_08: I don't want to bring them into this terrible environment of trauma.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_02: And I can't help you.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_10: You're having a whole side conversation.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_10: I mean, that's what the fuck are you talking about.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_02: So why does anyone have that?
1:02:03
SPEAKER_02: It's not like a fucking thing.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_02: Not everybody should be able to kids.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to project.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_07: Now listen, y'all can travel.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_07: Y'all can travel, do whatever.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_07: You can do whatever you want.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_07: It's not the same.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_07: It is not the same.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_11: Listen, you know, you know why I don't want to have children?
1:02:16
SPEAKER_11: Do you want my reasons?
1:02:17
SPEAKER_11: I'll give you my reasons.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_11: Number one, I like to sleep.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_11: Number two, number two, I like to get up and go at the drop of a fucking dime.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_10: I don't like I don't like.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_11: So what?
1:02:30
SPEAKER_10: Because we don't have children.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_11: I like to get up and go at the drop of a dime.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_11: I don't like to have to plan or depend on a fucking babysitter, depend on anybody else when I want to get up and go do something I want to do.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_11: I'll tell my own.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_11: And they're fucking expensive.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_11: Hello?
1:02:52
SPEAKER_11: I don't want those fucking bills.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_11: I don't want that 24-7, 24-7 hour a day job.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_11: Like, I don't want that.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_11: Sounds very selfish.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_11: But you can't.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_11: I've done this.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_11: It's my life.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_11: I agree with that.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_11: It's my life.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_11: I don't need to fucking.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_11: I don't have to conform to what society wants.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_11: Society wants you to fucking go to school, get married, have a kid, have a fucking house and a picket fence and 2.3 dogs.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_11: Don't nobody want to all that 2.3 dog.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_02: No, because there's a point three of a dog.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_02: There's a dog of jitsu.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_07: No, but it's true because there are people who have kids that should not be parents at all.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, like a lot of the people.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_10: So that's what I'm saying.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_10: I I I'm not mad at him for that because it's not everybody out here needs to be having kids.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_10: And it's good to know what you want.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_10: We're already overpopulated as it is.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_02: So a lot of us should use that argument.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_02: We are overpopulated.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_02: We're killing the tall booking and all the damn shit.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_07: We're killing, we're killing all the species.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_07: We're killing every other fucking species in this damn world.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_02: Those are white folk.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_07: We need to be.
1:04:09
SPEAKER_07: I think just in India, it's like a billion.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_07: Like literally just in India.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_11: 90% of every species that ever lived on this planet is extinct.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_11: And we didn't fucking kill them all, so.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_11: But the ones that are we're killing a lot of them.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_11: That's the bath.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_11: We're the only pollution that are about.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_11: Like the planet dies.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_11: Like that's a planet is not the planet.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_11: Do you think that we took the planet?
1:04:33
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_07: The thing is, it's not evolving because we're killing everybody.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_07: The atmosphere, climate change, pollution, of course we're killing the planet.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_07: We are killing the planet, but it's done.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_11: That's the people frozen under volcanic ash if they feel like a threat to the planet.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_11: Oh no.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_07: No, there are too many people.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_07: And exactly the world is made out of 70% of it, is water, and we're polluting the shit out of the water, too.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_07: So when earth strikes bad.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_07: And climate change is that is everybody's like tectonics move.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_07: That's one of the reasons why we are overpopulating because like all the trash that we freaking make.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_11: The earth will cleanse itself and then it'll fucking have a newspaper.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_06: No, there's probably gonna be a catastrophe.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_06: That's usually what happens that wipes out a big portion of the city.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_07: They'll carry the last name Gum.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_08: Well, if an asteroid comes out, yeah, something's got something gotta give eventually.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_08: Like, because it's going on.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_02: There's some people that believe the whole planet is a living organism, and then some people feel like we're gonna go to a different planet and restart.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_02: And I'm somewhere in the middle, and that's all that really matters on that topic.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, so we're gonna shift gears again.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_02: And um we kind of covered the thing.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_02: Um I want to talk about uh the black community since we're already talking about, you know, we talked about the Dominican community and uh and the whole thing of love.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_02: So I was on the internet, I was on Twitter, and it's gonna be a good segue to the black love movement.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay and It was talking about how in movies and TV the black dude is never the corny dude trying to find a woman or a spouse.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_02: It's always the white or the Asian or the Spanish, especially the Hispanic culture.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_02: They get it like the Latin lover thing, like these guys are lovable dudes and blah blah blah blah.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_02: But the black guy is always the guy who is just in it for pleasure.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_02: And I don't think that's necessarily fair.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_02: But when I look at the black community, it's exactly what we are, you know, we promote amongst ourselves.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_02: Like when you talk to your bro and he's talking about how he loves this girl, he's getting shitted on by his friends.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_02: And I have been victim and also you've been shadowed because of your choice of being in a relationship.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_02: And I've also shadowed niggas for being in relationships myself when I wasn't in a relationship.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_02: So I definitely like where does that where does that come from within our community?
1:06:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, what is that about?
1:06:58
SPEAKER_02: You're an older statesman.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_02: So I mean I like how you fucking.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_07: Do you think it changed over time?
1:07:04
SPEAKER_07: Because like the 90s were all about love.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_07: A little bit more.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_07: The music was.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_11: But at the end of the day, on the block, once again, I think everything is just I think everything that we're talking about.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_11: For instance, this is a effect of instant gratification.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_11: Elaborate.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_11: So like instant instant gratification, like the music nowadays, like you just get straight to the point, like, come here, bitch, let me eat your ass, and shit like that.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_11: Whereas opposed to back in the day, it was about romance and you took your fucking time.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_11: Songs were 17 minutes long.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_11: Nowadays you can't get a song that's past fucking two minutes and 20 seconds.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_11: So you get what I'm saying?
1:07:45
SPEAKER_11: Like the the times have changed.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_11: Everything is just, you know what I'm saying?
1:07:50
SPEAKER_11: It went from speaking on the phone and Jonesing to text messaging.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but look at that.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_02: Jonesing, it was a positive thing.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_11: Absolutely.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_11: I've never had listen.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_11: I listen, I can't speak for the side of anybody else than the Drakes.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:08:07
SPEAKER_11: I'm always on Drake's side.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_11: I was on L L side.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_11: I was like, Okay, okay, see?
1:08:11
SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_11: Okay, but like Big LA.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_11: What I was always you know what I'm saying?
1:08:17
SPEAKER_02: So, but but you get what I'm saying, though.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_02: There's I think the majority of our community.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you Jonesing on the phone.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh, this nigga's soft.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but you phone cuffing.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_11: You phone cuffing.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_11: But you know what?
1:08:29
SPEAKER_11: A lot of these negative terms.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_11: Well, that's just what you're taught, once again, how you're raised.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_11: You know what I'm saying?
1:08:33
SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_11: I feel like Chances are those same dudes haven't seen anyone love their mother correctly.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_11: So they don't, so they don't know how to they don't know what that's about.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_11: They've never seen anyone love them.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_11: So the lack of their own.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_07: And I think because a lot of guys always on the block and everyone wants to be mad at her, but they spend most of their time with men.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_08: With men.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_08: So it's like you're not gonna know how to have a relationship with a woman.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_08: And it's uh, yeah, like I don't know, it sucks to me, but it's like when I see a dude just hanging with dudes all the time for step and I don't like that, I don't like the I don't like the stuff for them.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_06: Even the way like you see in movies or certain ways that they when they finally have sex with a woman, they just use her as like an object to fuck and like just leave her and fucking with the boys right after, like, you know?
1:09:22
SPEAKER_02: And that's tell them about it.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_02: Why is that the norm in our society?
1:09:25
SPEAKER_02: Because then white people white people take this shit like I mean there's of course there's some white people that do the same shit that we do, but I feel like there's a lot more white people who do the same shit we do, and I know a couple of them personally in their communities.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_10: Excuse me, nigga, that's why I'm white-skinned.
1:09:39
SPEAKER_10: Because the white people went down to our island.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_10: We had to appropriate.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_10: We had two little Spanish and um uh Caribbean girlfriends for the two or four girls.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_10: I don't know if they're all I don't know if they were girlfriends.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_10: They have their girlfriends, well, I'm just gonna be polite because there's a lot of there's a lot we're light skinned because of rape.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_10: Relate rape.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_02: Don't say we, because I ain't light skinned at all.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_10: Motherfucker, you guys are a lot of characteristics you don't know about, brother.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_10: Don't be fooled by your chocolate posterior, alright?
1:10:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I'm comfortable with you calling me chocolate, bro.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_02: Chocolate, but I just want to understand, like, let me hear the women's perspective.
1:10:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, you guys grew up in urban community, so how do you feel the dudes?
1:10:20
SPEAKER_02: Urban community Elmhurst?
1:10:23
SPEAKER_02: How do y'all feel about the niggas in the hearst talking about man these bitches?
1:10:28
SPEAKER_08: I was celibate for most of my childhood because of all that nonsense.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_02: Fuck bitches getting money.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_02: Like, that just that alone.
1:10:34
SPEAKER_02: Fuck bitches getting money.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_07: Nah, I mean the dudes, they grossed me out, man.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_06: Like growing up, it was, yeah, no.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_06: It could be nothing that you were attracted to because it's like you see how the way they talk and treat women, like that's how exactly.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_07: We were friends with a lot of boys, like we were usually like the girls on the block.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, exactly.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_07: So like we'd play sports or whatever, but I think it could he brought up a good point that it could be the lack of fathers and they don't see that sort of functional relationship.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_02: But these dudes is fucking these girls, though.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_02: So there's gonna be some level of attraction there.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, of course.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_07: I'm saying the attraction is there, but the love is the love there.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_11: Have you ever heard a hood nigga talk to a girl?
1:11:13
SPEAKER_11: The thing is, a lot of times girls they speak at them.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but you know what?
1:11:18
SPEAKER_11: The women respond to that.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_11: And they respond to that's fuckery.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_11: The thing is, and then they wonder why they go through the situations that they go through.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_11: And it's like, look at the caliber of person that you were dealing with.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, he obviously didn't respect you from the door.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_08: And the thing is, a lot of it gets less than that.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_11: Because yes, because because they tend, not all, because a lot of women tend to walk past Clark Kent every day, but want Superman.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_02: And that's my thing.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_02: Why is that the case?
1:11:44
SPEAKER_02: Why do they go after the niggas that's slinging drugs, fuck bitches get money instead of the dude that's gonna be able to do it?
1:11:48
SPEAKER_02: It's image.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_11: It's image.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_02: But why?
1:11:51
SPEAKER_02: Why is that in our community?
1:11:52
SPEAKER_11: It's in our schools because you know what it is?
1:11:54
SPEAKER_07: We also want what we can't have.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_08: So it's like the person who's giving you the attention, sometimes you want you want the person that you gotta gotta chase something like that.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_11: They want the baby daddy, they don't want the baby.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_11: They don't want the content father.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_11: No, they would they want the baby daddy, they don't want the baby.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
1:12:11
SPEAKER_10: How does that make sense?
1:12:13
SPEAKER_11: Elaborate then.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_11: They want the arguments and the fucking drama and all this.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_02: The nigga that don't got no kids got a big thing.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_02: The person that's good for them.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's still arguments in that.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not a good thing.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_08: It's all over hip hop.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_11: It's not boring.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_11: Everybody knows what a baby daddy is.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_08: Oh, it's drama.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_08: There's not one functional baby daddy relationship that I think.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_10: Black both your eyes so you really on the corner has more time on their hands to see you and make that attempt to, hey, honey, what you doing today?
1:12:48
SPEAKER_02: What?
1:12:48
SPEAKER_02: Listen here a little bit.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_02: The women with the you know, with the fat ass claims, with big head on their shoulders they'll want a man that's gonna be.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_07: I think it shifted a little bit in terms of, I guess, the women in terms of iron now exactly, because they want husbands, so I think women now are being the whole phases are starting to run out.
1:13:09
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's looking at Sierra, like, listen, she got herself a cornball nigga, but how many niggas like that?
1:13:13
SPEAKER_02: But guess what, bro?
1:13:14
SPEAKER_02: It's a vicious cycle.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_02: It fucking ball.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_02: It repeats.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_02: I love Russell Pete.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_05: It repeats.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he's definitely a cornball, bro.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_05: But why?
1:13:23
SPEAKER_02: Any any nigga, any nigga, any nigga that threw the ball on the fucking goal line.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_11: When he had small exactly as his running back, you're a fucking cornball.
1:13:34
unknown: He's a cornball.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_02: You have looked at that coach like now.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_02: We run in the room.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_02: What's going on in that?
1:13:38
SPEAKER_02: I don't like nigga what?
1:13:40
SPEAKER_02: Where?
1:13:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, you nigga your buckets.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_02: But look, she went through 50.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_02: She went through future.
1:13:44
SPEAKER_02: And well, he's cornballs.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_02: Who's whose girl just left him for young MA?
1:13:50
SPEAKER_02: For young MBA.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_02: Damn.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_02: Would you rather that?
1:13:54
SPEAKER_02: Your girl leaving you for a girl than another nigga?
1:13:57
SPEAKER_10: I would be mortified.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_10: Really?
1:14:00
SPEAKER_10: I'd be mortified.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_10: Mortified.
1:14:02
SPEAKER_10: What do you mean?
1:14:03
SPEAKER_02: How about you, Red?
1:14:04
SPEAKER_02: What?
1:14:05
SPEAKER_02: Red.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_02: Sound off.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_11: Hear what you gotta say.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_11: Nah.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_11: We'll talk about this over here.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, cool.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_02: But uh tongue game.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_02: So women.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_02: Y'all said if you had a good head against it.
1:14:18
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, not you.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_07: I'm saying men.
1:14:21
SPEAKER_07: If men don't want that to happen, they gotta up their tongue games.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh my lord.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_02: Listen, listen, listen.
1:14:25
SPEAKER_02: No, let's talk about it.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that a woman's time for the people.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that a woman could please a woman better than a man.
1:14:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
1:14:34
SPEAKER_02: But you've never had a clear organize.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_07: I think what?
1:14:41
SPEAKER_07: You guys have a thousand.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_02: You can tell me the white man is silent.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no, no.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_08: Lesbian women have a homosexual life.
1:14:58
SPEAKER_10: What are you saying?
1:14:59
SPEAKER_08: Like, what is it?
1:15:00
SPEAKER_08: Cradible.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_10: Women please do better than a few.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_04: Most of the men can't, is what I'm saying.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_10: But a man can not do anything.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_10: I'm not talking about it.
1:15:13
SPEAKER_04: I don't think women can do women.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_02: If you survey all women that have been with both of our sexual partners, and they're gonna ask you which one hate them the most, they're gonna be like, it was a man.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_02: I can't.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm gonna white men studies.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_02: Google it.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_08: Google it right now.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_07: Google it right now.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_07: Use it a white man's study.
1:15:35
SPEAKER_07: You have to be more specific.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_07: Who everyone was it his dick or was it his tongue?
1:15:38
SPEAKER_07: Listen, it could be a man, but it wasn't tongue.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go with all of the above.
1:15:46
SPEAKER_02: That's what's the above issues.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_08: Look, there's a show on that.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_08: No, no, no, it's a show.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_08: Like an episode with a female orgasm, and I'm gonna have I'm gonna send y'all a link and you watch it and find out.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_08: A clear orgasm is just like the we can talk about it in the middle of the state.
1:16:02
SPEAKER_07: But that's what I'm saying.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_07: Most men do not.
1:16:07
SPEAKER_08: Listen, come and go down on you for like two minutes, and then they want you to go down on them for like 30 minutes.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_08: Okay, that's the ratio.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_08: You would do the pussy as a chip.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_08: Okay, come on.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_07: Listen, my the my thing is with lesbians, they do explore more in terms of the clit, right?
1:16:20
SPEAKER_07: And with men, it's the it's a lot of it is about their dick.
1:16:23
SPEAKER_07: So they're just gonna.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_07: I'm not saying you guys say AG.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_07: Ace really.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_02: You've been with both.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_02: Who's giving you the best?
1:16:34
SPEAKER_02: It's a man.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_02: Man or a woman?
1:16:35
SPEAKER_02: Promise you it's a man.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_02: Man or woman.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: I won.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: I already.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_05: I give them both.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_05: Ace because he does both.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_11: But he's a man, right?
1:16:42
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, so he's got the.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_11: No, no, no, no.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_11: Pass the mic.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_05: Red, that was my point, though.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_07: There are men who don't do both.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_07: That's exactly what I'm saying.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_07: You guys may be the few that know the importance of penetration and eating your girls out.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_02: She also has an opinion.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_07: I said I've been a bit more.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_07: But most men both too.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_07: And I would say I'd had better sex with women than men.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but I guarantee you, once you meet the dude, you are gonna look at your list and be like, Well, it's been done five years and well, 26 years old.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_08: That's not even that long.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_02: That's not even that long.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_08: I promise you, once you meet that dude, y'all are too overly confident.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_08: That's what it is.
1:17:19
SPEAKER_02: No, it is.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_10: That's why the biggest thing is.
1:17:39
SPEAKER_08: You guys are the exceptions, and I'm not the rule exactly.
1:17:44
SPEAKER_08: I'm not saying that all my can put me.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_08: I'm not gonna pick up at all.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_08: I'm not just saying most.
1:17:49
SPEAKER_08: Most do not do that.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_07: That's why that's why I specify the exceptions.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_06: That's why I said that.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_11: Fuck that.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_11: I don't stop eating pussy till I'm burped.
1:17:58
SPEAKER_11: That's why I specify the physical.
1:18:01
SPEAKER_11: Damn right.
1:18:04
SPEAKER_07: The difference between a clit orgasm.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_07: Like that's that's exactly why they feel like some women do, because usually like they have to follow, they don't have a dick, so they have to focus on that.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_07: But most men, because they they they have a dick, a lot of them are blinded by that and think that's all she wants when it's not.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_07: But you guys, you guys know, you guys know what's up.
1:18:24
SPEAKER_07: So exactly, some women can't.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_02: The point I was trying to make is I missed the point.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't really remember what the point was.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_10: But I just know that the point was was it a man or a woman that can please you better?
1:18:37
SPEAKER_02: I just think that I don't know what the original source of this argument was.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_02: Because we were talking about love.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_02: How did this be like?
1:18:44
SPEAKER_11: I was talking because I was talking about um the fact that everyone just kind of wants to get into the whole sexual thing.
1:18:50
SPEAKER_11: So the whole Jonesing and romancing of a woman isn't and then younger May.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_07: So that's how that's how yeah, Young and May went.
1:19:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so just to bring it back uh full circle or half circle, semicircle, whatever it may be.
1:19:07
SPEAKER_02: I just want to know why in the black community love is never in you see it in media as well.
1:19:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's like you remember that cinnamon apple dude from uh from the internet?
1:19:19
SPEAKER_02: Facts.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_02: It was my cinnamon apple and niggas was clowning him because he lost his girl on some bullshit.
1:19:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, it probably was like warranted, but he was like calling her another one, too.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_02: There's there's always one, and it's always a comedic thing in our community, but in the white or Hispanic community, Rhett just posted one last week.
1:19:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I even know.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so Red, you you're the guy that's recording these dudes like losing their minds.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_11: But when I was sleeping in my car, but that was different.
1:19:46
SPEAKER_11: I was talking about how he was that much in love with his girl.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_11: Oh, okay.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_11: So you didn't know.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_11: You know, like he didn't even cheat with them bitches that was in his DMs.
1:19:55
SPEAKER_11: Like he slept in his car.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_11: You know what I mean?
1:19:59
SPEAKER_02: And in our community, it's always funny.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh, she's cutting up the Jordan, she's cutting up this.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_07: Because you make fun of the things you can't get or you don't have.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_07: So I feel like, again, it's just uh lack of black dads.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:20:11
SPEAKER_07: Well, yeah, it's that too.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_07: Again, you haven't seen it or you can't attain it, so you make fun of the guys that do.
1:20:16
SPEAKER_07: So why can't we?
1:20:17
SPEAKER_07: Because you actually want it.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_02: Why can't we hold the women accountable?
1:20:19
SPEAKER_02: The mothers.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_02: Why can't they raise their children to be like, listen, I am not being loved, but this is not what love is.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_07: They can, and that is a good point.
1:20:30
SPEAKER_07: They definitely should, but again, they might, at a certain point, they're gonna spend a lot of their time with their friends.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_07: So their friends peer pressure, blah blah blah.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_07: It gets into their head.
1:20:39
SPEAKER_07: It gets into their head.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_07: Or they it could be obviously it could be just a front, like they're doing that just for like in front of their friends, and then they do want to get a girlfriend, or they, you know, have a secret relationship or whatever it is.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm 24 years old, eventually.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_02: And not 24.
1:20:56
SPEAKER_02: And um, it's still not the coolest thing to be in a relationship.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_02: Still.
1:21:02
SPEAKER_02: And when I don't know if that's ever gonna change within my community because we're still suffering the effects of regonomics and super predators and locking up black people over mass incarceration.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_02: So I just wanna is there do you guys think there's a turning point for our community?
1:21:22
SPEAKER_02: Or is it just it is what it is?
1:21:24
SPEAKER_07: I think there is, because like even if you're on a we can go into the whole black love movement thing, right?
1:21:30
SPEAKER_07: So like Oprah has this um show, the black love document, black love doc.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so it's just basically just a show, and it's about black couples speaking about their relationships.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_07: Most of them are famous, are famous black couples.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_07: Um but I think that's definitely a movement that's catching attention in terms of like black men loving black women.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_07: Because of course, a lot of people, a lot of black men can be married, but a lot of it could be, you know, women from different races or whatever.
1:21:59
SPEAKER_07: So like, and again, just from social media or movies, TV, the black woman wasn't always, you know, that love interest, you know, that woman you wanted to wife up, or that woman that was deemed beautiful.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_11: Okay, because I watched Foxy Brown back in the day.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_07: No, listen, that's good.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_07: You know what's up.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_07: Exactly, you know what's up, but a lot of it, or even just like when you talk about like um you could be looking for uh light-skinned black women.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_07: So like now it's just like there's a whole range of black women, and especially the darker skinned women, are the ones that are being brought up now in terms of you know being beautiful.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Lupita, yeah.
1:22:40
SPEAKER_02: I watched a black clansmen move me.
1:22:43
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, it moved me.
1:22:45
SPEAKER_02: And um The Black Klansmen.
1:22:48
SPEAKER_11: Oh, okay, okay.
1:22:50
SPEAKER_02: No, I just told I downloaded it illegally.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_02: But they don't know where I live, so they can't figure it out.
1:22:55
SPEAKER_02: So the love interest in that movie was a light-skinned black woman.
1:22:59
SPEAKER_02: So are we really moving?
1:23:01
SPEAKER_02: I know it's one movie.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_07: See, again, that's that's another that's another issue because that's what they do, like, especially in movies, like a a character that was supposed to be black, and then they they'll cast a black one, but it'll be a black, a light-skinned black woman.
1:23:14
SPEAKER_07: So that is that is still an issue.
1:23:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it should be though, because a light-skinned black woman is a black woman.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_07: It depends.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_07: No, no, exactly.
1:23:24
SPEAKER_07: I I I agree with that, but I think certain roles were written for a dark-skinned black woman.
1:23:29
SPEAKER_07: So I think a lot of the issues come with who is that per like in that in that book or in that script, it was originally supposed to be a darker skinned woman because they face different things than a darker skinned woman.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_02: The dark skinned dude is always the evil guy.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_02: And the light-skinned guy is always the guy that comes in at the end and saves the wheel.
1:23:50
SPEAKER_02: Isn't he country?
1:23:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
1:23:52
SPEAKER_02: The brown paper badge.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_10: They're still going on that.
1:23:54
SPEAKER_10: They're still on that.
1:23:55
SPEAKER_10: I I don't want to say that they're not.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_02: But that's something that's for us by us, and it's still perpetuating the stereotypes.
1:24:01
SPEAKER_02: Fubu's making a comeback, by the way.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_02: I saw a Fubu hoodie for like$145 out of there.
1:24:06
SPEAKER_02: That's too much.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, because I'm mad black woman was.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_10: I mean, that's the problem when a lot of what I was gonna say about the Tyler Perry thing is that sometimes when uh someone's very popular, depending on whatever their ideas may be, it may be more widespread than the correct idea.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_10: It's not necessarily that we're making a step backwards, it's just that he happens to be popular at the time.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_10: That's what he's producing, that's what he knows, that's where he's going.
1:24:29
SPEAKER_10: It's better for the consumer to know better than the person that's feeding them their information.
1:24:35
SPEAKER_07: That's that's just the issue though.
1:24:37
SPEAKER_07: Like, I I don't agree with women who are like, oh, but she's light skinned, she shouldn't have gotten that role.
1:24:42
SPEAKER_07: I just feel like they should honor whatever the original character was supposed to be.
1:24:45
SPEAKER_07: Like if it was supposed to be a darker skinned woman, cast them as such.
1:24:49
SPEAKER_11: Aunt Viv was supposed to always be black.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_11: I like dark skinned Aunt Viv best.
1:24:54
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, me too.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_07: That's how you know me.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, the the second one, I don't even know what her name was.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_10: She was she was forced.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, she was definitely forced.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_10: I don't I don't like it.
1:25:03
SPEAKER_11: Listen, and what a lot of people don't know about the second Aunt Viv is that she's very accredited scholastically and you know, actress um actress-wise.
1:25:11
SPEAKER_11: Uh if you just Google her and you can see her credentials and whatnot.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_11: Um, however, she did not play a better role than the original.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:25:20
SPEAKER_11: Same thing for Family Matters, if you remember.
1:25:23
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
1:25:23
SPEAKER_11: I think it was like the last season when Harriet uh left the show and they got uh a lighter skin um Harriet to play.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_02: I uh fresh pressure.
1:25:34
SPEAKER_02: It's a hot take for me, but it wasn't.
1:25:38
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't no, I watched it, of course, but it wasn't that great personal.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:25:43
SPEAKER_02: I forgive you.
1:25:45
SPEAKER_10: I had Pokemon after that, so yeah, we're good.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_07: I think it I think it is changing.
1:25:50
SPEAKER_07: I think it is changing though.
1:25:53
SPEAKER_07: But it's just gonna take more time.
1:25:55
SPEAKER_07: It hasn't been enough time.
1:25:56
SPEAKER_11: Fresh Prince always had the best looking orange juice.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_11: Like if you just watch the kitchen, the orange juice was just amazing.
1:26:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:26:07
SPEAKER_02: Tell me I'm fucking lying.
1:26:09
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't recollect.
1:26:10
SPEAKER_11: I can't say that you are lying, but um Casey, go go Google Google Fresh Prince um orange just scene in the kitchen, a kitchen scene or something.
1:26:20
SPEAKER_11: Just watch the goddamn scene.
1:26:21
SPEAKER_11: Amazing.
1:26:23
SPEAKER_02: So we can either talk about the rich get we're done talking about being a lover boys and why is it such a negative thing?
1:26:29
SPEAKER_11: I don't think that that was really um like as far as I didn't recall anyone's like real opinion on it.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_07: I just think I guess we were just trying to find out where that stemmed from.
1:26:39
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, where it stemmed from.
1:26:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh my personal opinion is I mean, it's cool.
1:26:44
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's what we should all strive to.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_02: Like, meaningless sex is literally defined.
1:26:48
SPEAKER_02: It's meaningless sex.
1:26:49
SPEAKER_06: So why do we I think eventually it's gonna change.
1:26:52
SPEAKER_07: Eventually it will.
1:26:53
SPEAKER_07: People are gonna get tired of that.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when they get old and no love.
1:26:56
SPEAKER_07: Like, who doesn't want to be?
1:26:58
SPEAKER_07: Like, everyone strives to be loved.
1:26:59
SPEAKER_10: Why do we waste it?
1:27:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, why do we waste your youth on meaningless sex then?
1:27:02
SPEAKER_10: Like, why don't you?
1:27:02
SPEAKER_10: Because remember, people are getting married and starting to be able to do it.
1:27:04
SPEAKER_10: Like when you're younger than it too.
1:27:06
SPEAKER_02: I think that's we should go back to that.
1:27:07
SPEAKER_08: I think as you get older, people hopefully mature and get children.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_02: At least vetting them.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_10: If we're gonna have children, yeah, we should have them young.
1:27:14
SPEAKER_10: You can get married back.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_10: What's wrong with getting married at eight years?
1:27:17
SPEAKER_10: There's many things.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_10: There's many things that are good for that.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_10: Well, you see, the if you have everything ready.
1:27:21
SPEAKER_11: Like you have to really be like really like on the same page if you're going to get married at 18 and last.
1:27:31
SPEAKER_11: Like, that's a not to say it's impossible because there's pe there's there's plenty of couples who've done it.
1:27:36
SPEAKER_11: But especially the older generation.
1:27:38
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, because again, they did that.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_11: They didn't have back in the day, I swear, like, if if you were you know, they didn't have Instagram and cell phones and shit.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_11: You can fucking pick up and move eleven miles away, you never know.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_10: Yep, and you can also uh feed an entire family from one person's salary.
1:27:56
SPEAKER_10: From one person's salary.
1:27:57
SPEAKER_02: Is there a whole phase a real thing?
1:27:59
SPEAKER_10: What was that?
1:28:01
SPEAKER_10: Absolutely.
1:28:02
SPEAKER_10: Should they be forgiven?
1:28:02
SPEAKER_10: No.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:28:04
SPEAKER_10: That's a good point.
1:28:05
SPEAKER_10: I identify for a whole face.
1:28:07
SPEAKER_10: Should they be forgiven?
1:28:09
SPEAKER_10: It depends on the matter of how in which you did things.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_05: If you had a whole phase, then telling me nothing.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_10: Yes, I think I think we all do have whole phases.
1:28:18
SPEAKER_11: I think we all do have whole phases where, like I said, it's not.
1:28:23
SPEAKER_11: A whole face can be forgiven as long as it's done with greatness.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_11: Do you know who Dre is?
1:28:28
SPEAKER_11: Can you let me finish?
1:28:29
SPEAKER_11: As long as your wheness is conducted with greatness, you can do it.
1:28:33
SPEAKER_11: And if you own it, you can do it.
1:28:35
SPEAKER_11: Prime example.
1:28:36
SPEAKER_11: If you're a hoe and you MJ'd in the finals went six and no, you're the greatest hoe of all time.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_11: But if you LeBron didn't the finals, three and six.
1:28:45
SPEAKER_11: And you know, you didn't handle it correctly, and you know, you mismanaged your shit.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_02: So the quality of men that you entertained is not a good thing.
1:28:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what do you mean?
1:28:53
SPEAKER_05: Because like, what do you mean by greatness?
1:28:55
SPEAKER_11: What do you mean by greatness?
1:28:56
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, like how are you defined?
1:28:58
SPEAKER_11: Um an asshole.
1:28:59
SPEAKER_11: Um, it's far.
1:29:00
SPEAKER_11: No, no, it's not a good thing.
1:29:01
SPEAKER_08: It's like they're not sloppy about it.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_08: No, like sloppy, messy.
1:29:07
SPEAKER_11: You can have multiple sex partners, but if you're not out here fucking people do Project Hallways are not mad at you for being a hoe.
1:29:15
SPEAKER_11: People only get mad at you for lying about being a hoe.
1:29:19
SPEAKER_02: I disagree.
1:29:20
SPEAKER_11: Own that shit.
1:29:20
SPEAKER_11: I disagree.
1:29:21
SPEAKER_02: Own it.
1:29:21
SPEAKER_02: Drea, the girl.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_02: You know Drea?
1:29:23
SPEAKER_02: I think there's a double standard.
1:29:25
SPEAKER_02: Drea?
1:29:26
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_02: So no slut shapes.
1:29:27
SPEAKER_02: I know the name.
1:29:28
SPEAKER_02: She was on uh Basketball Wives, and she was, yeah.
1:29:32
SPEAKER_02: And she was her first season she was on there.
1:29:35
SPEAKER_02: They literally define her as we're the person that all the wives hate because she's the stripper that the basketball player goes and knocks up, gets pregnant, and the wife is at home, like, alright, so now we gotta deal with this for the rest of our life.
1:29:48
SPEAKER_02: That was her role on the show.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_02: She's currently dating a cornerback on the Cowboys, uh, Lando Standrick.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_02: He's not that good.
1:29:55
SPEAKER_02: But she's the one that coined the phrase, your whole phase can be erased.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_02: Because that's what she was jacking.
1:30:01
SPEAKER_02: Listen, I would she owned it, and she's still being attacked by men and women for being an unfit parent, for being a hoe.
1:30:08
SPEAKER_02: Like somebody called her the queen of all hoes the other day.
1:30:13
SPEAKER_02: And she made a joke with her husband, like, did you know I was royalty?
1:30:15
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, What are you talking about?
1:30:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm the queen of all the thoughts.
1:30:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, me personally, I would not be comfortable with my girl coming to me with that information.
1:30:20
SPEAKER_11: Well, number one, it's all about how she portrays herself in the public.
1:30:25
SPEAKER_11: Like, if you get on The Housewives or whatever the fuck show it's called, or you get on Love and Hip Hop, or you get on these ratchet shows.
1:30:32
SPEAKER_11: And you get on these ratchet shows, but you play into the ratchet role.
1:30:36
SPEAKER_11: Expect extracting the show.
1:30:37
SPEAKER_11: Then that's then that's what's going to follow you, regardless if it's scripted or not.
1:30:41
SPEAKER_02: Does it apply for men too?
1:30:42
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:30:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:30:44
SPEAKER_07: Because the thing is, none of those men impregnated her.
1:30:46
SPEAKER_07: She had a child young, but that was her only child till Orlando when they were engaged.
1:30:50
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:30:50
SPEAKER_07: So it's like, it's not like she was really being not done.
1:30:53
SPEAKER_02: All they care about was her being a stripper.
1:30:54
SPEAKER_10: That's all they care about.
1:30:56
SPEAKER_10: They couldn't get the box or they couldn't get any pictures anymore.
1:30:58
SPEAKER_10: So they had it and they're out there trying to uh sled chain her.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_10: But yeah, and she's sledge.
1:31:04
SPEAKER_07: It stems out of jealousy.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_02: But this is somebody like, okay, Shawnee O'Neill, what does she have to be jealous of Drea for?
1:31:11
SPEAKER_02: Because she has millions of dollars.
1:31:12
SPEAKER_02: She has a wasting her time.
1:31:14
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
1:31:15
SPEAKER_07: Why is she the shit that we don't know?
1:31:17
SPEAKER_02: She's the enemy, according to them.
1:31:18
SPEAKER_02: Like women, this is a woman bashing another woman.
1:31:21
SPEAKER_07: Because she's insecure in her relationship.
1:31:23
SPEAKER_07: So the only one's insecure women.
1:31:26
SPEAKER_07: Well, yeah.
1:31:28
SPEAKER_07: Of course.
1:31:28
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:31:29
SPEAKER_07: Because if you're secure in your relationship, why does it matter if she's all disagree?
1:31:33
SPEAKER_11: That's bullshit.
1:31:34
SPEAKER_11: No, insecure women are not the only one that bash O's.
1:31:37
SPEAKER_07: No, no, I'm not saying they're the only one.
1:31:38
SPEAKER_07: That's a reason.
1:31:39
SPEAKER_07: Why they'll bash.
1:31:42
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, that's good.
1:31:42
SPEAKER_07: Because she was like, why do why would she be?
1:31:44
SPEAKER_07: Because at first I was like, they're probably jealous.
1:31:46
SPEAKER_07: And he's like, why would she be jealous of me?
1:31:48
SPEAKER_07: And I was like, again, it could be she's maybe insecure about her relationship and her and her man's fidelity.
1:31:55
SPEAKER_11: I don't think so.
1:31:56
SPEAKER_11: But um I think we need to ask your lady about that.
1:32:01
SPEAKER_06: He just said that, like about you and relationships and secure.
1:32:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm not insecure about that.
1:32:07
SPEAKER_02: I just don't know.
1:32:08
SPEAKER_02: Is he insecure?
1:32:10
SPEAKER_01: He's the most secure person I've ever ever met in my life.
1:32:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, I have a thing called rational confidence.
1:32:16
SPEAKER_02: You wrote that shit down.
1:32:17
SPEAKER_02: You memorized that in the car, didn't you?
1:32:18
SPEAKER_02: Rational confidence.
1:32:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, I feel like I'm the best person that's ever lived ever.
1:32:22
SPEAKER_02: And I have to check myself all the time.
1:32:24
SPEAKER_02: All the time.
1:32:24
SPEAKER_02: It makes me feel like everybody's in the world.
1:32:26
SPEAKER_08: That sounds like mania.
1:32:27
SPEAKER_02: That sounds like mania or narcissism.
1:32:30
SPEAKER_02: I've self you know diagnosed myself, so I know the problem.
1:32:33
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:32:33
SPEAKER_02: I gotta You know what's up.
1:32:34
SPEAKER_07: You're not delusion, you're not delusional.
1:32:36
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I'm not.
1:32:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, technically I am because I think I'm better than everybody ever.
1:32:39
SPEAKER_02: It's not just now like Abraham Lincoln, yeah, yeah.
1:32:43
SPEAKER_02: That's a problem.
1:32:43
SPEAKER_02: It's a problem.
1:32:44
SPEAKER_02: But I I take care of it.
1:32:45
SPEAKER_02: I take my medicine.
1:32:46
SPEAKER_11: Do you know how high Benjamin Franklin?
1:32:49
SPEAKER_11: I'm sorry, not Benjamin Franklin.
1:32:50
SPEAKER_11: Um Thomas Edison had to be the motherfucker and think of electricity.
1:32:54
SPEAKER_11: He stole that shit from the fucking.
1:32:57
SPEAKER_11: But I'm saying, like, do you know how high you gotta be to think about that shit?
1:33:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I don't want to imagine how high he was.
1:33:02
SPEAKER_02: High off what?
1:33:03
SPEAKER_10: That's Nikola Tesla.
1:33:06
SPEAKER_10: Never smoked.
1:33:07
SPEAKER_10: And he died broke as well.
1:33:08
SPEAKER_10: Never had sex.
1:33:09
SPEAKER_10: Edison's legacy.
1:33:10
SPEAKER_10: Never did anything.
1:33:11
SPEAKER_10: So who would you rather be?
1:33:13
SPEAKER_10: Pleasurable besides electronics.
1:33:15
SPEAKER_10: No, the thieves?
1:33:16
SPEAKER_02: Repeat the question.
1:33:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh, who would you rather be?
1:33:18
SPEAKER_02: Nicola Tesla, the dude that, you know, probably invented the lights in here.
1:33:23
SPEAKER_02: Nicola Tesla.
1:33:24
SPEAKER_02: Or he died poor out of syphilis.
1:33:27
SPEAKER_02: I'd rather be him.
1:33:28
SPEAKER_02: You'd rather be the poor dude with no legacy than Thomas Edison, who we have to all pay every week, month, year.
1:33:36
SPEAKER_10: I would rather be Nicola Tesla.
1:33:38
SPEAKER_11: Really?
1:33:38
SPEAKER_11: He wants to live life knowing that he, you know, didn't rob anyone.
1:33:41
SPEAKER_11: He was honorable.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_10: Yo, my man.
1:33:44
SPEAKER_10: The knowledge.
1:33:45
SPEAKER_10: Because again, they're both still dead now.
1:33:46
SPEAKER_10: The knowledge he came across, I'm not gonna say created or anything like that.
1:33:50
SPEAKER_02: The shit that one of them is they say a man dies two deaths.
1:33:53
SPEAKER_02: The physical one and when his name is spoken for the last time.
1:33:56
SPEAKER_02: Which one is gonna happen first?
1:33:57
SPEAKER_02: Tesla's name is gonna be forgotten.
1:33:59
SPEAKER_02: Maybe if these cars continue, but we're not calling them Nikolai Tesla's, we're calling them Elon Musk's Teslas.
1:34:05
SPEAKER_02: See what I'm saying?
1:34:06
SPEAKER_02: Edison, we paying Khan Edison for it.
1:34:08
SPEAKER_02: They have a monopoly.
1:34:08
SPEAKER_10: I'm a different type of person.
1:34:09
SPEAKER_10: Warren.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_10: Like I don't I don't want the fame in that.
1:34:12
SPEAKER_10: It's the type of person he was.
1:34:14
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_10: He lived true, he lived true to who he was.
1:34:17
SPEAKER_02: You know that, I know that, but there's the majority of the case.
1:34:20
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know the nigga personality.
1:34:21
SPEAKER_02: You're saying he didn't know.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:34:25
SPEAKER_02: Somebody's choosing Edison.
1:34:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm choosing Edison.
1:34:28
SPEAKER_10: That's nice.
1:34:28
SPEAKER_10: Uh for what?
1:34:30
SPEAKER_10: What what pleasure does that give you?
1:34:32
SPEAKER_10: I don't know if it's a pleasure, bro.
1:34:34
SPEAKER_10: So what does that choose?
1:34:36
SPEAKER_10: What's the choice?
1:34:38
SPEAKER_11: Because uh he said he's asking like what would you rather choose, or whatever the case is because Edison has the name and the notoriety and all of that stuff of being a thief.
1:34:47
SPEAKER_11: No, most people don't know that.
1:34:49
SPEAKER_10: It doesn't matter that the fact is still there that he's a thief.
1:34:53
SPEAKER_02: Let me ask you this question.
1:34:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh what's this guy's name?
1:34:57
SPEAKER_02: Marvin Gay, right?
1:34:59
SPEAKER_02: Great music, right?
1:35:02
SPEAKER_02: And you know, there's reports coming out that he was of the persuasion.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_02: But would you rather be Marvin Gay, the greatest of all the greatest or one of the greatest musicians of all time, or the dude that made beats that nobody's ever gonna give a fuck about?
1:35:17
SPEAKER_02: Just because Marvin Gay is out as a homosexual man.
1:35:21
SPEAKER_02: It's a negative connotation on his brand.
1:35:23
SPEAKER_02: Most people don't even know about it.
1:35:25
SPEAKER_02: Most people know Marvin Gay as the singing, right?
1:35:27
SPEAKER_11: Not knowing that he was actually gay.
1:35:30
SPEAKER_02: That's why I knew that for a child when they say Marvin Gay, I was like, oh, he's gay.
1:35:33
SPEAKER_02: Nah, but you didn't know that.
1:35:34
SPEAKER_02: But you do you get my point?
1:35:35
SPEAKER_02: Like what you're saying.
1:35:36
SPEAKER_02: Would you rather have the name Marvin Gay or the dude that probably wrote his music that nobody gives a fuck about?
1:35:43
SPEAKER_10: Did the guy um make music or was he successful just not?
1:35:47
SPEAKER_02: He was successful at writing Marvin Gaye's music, yeah.
1:35:50
SPEAKER_10: I like being a creator, I'm a creator myself.
1:35:53
SPEAKER_02: But your legacy is is there's no legacy at all.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_10: Legacy of what?
1:35:57
SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
1:35:57
SPEAKER_02: That's my point.
1:35:58
SPEAKER_10: So he doesn't he doesn't care about that legacy.
1:36:00
SPEAKER_10: I still live my life the way I wanted to, and I created greatness.
1:36:02
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:36:03
SPEAKER_10: Although it may have been stolen, that doesn't take away what I created in my life.
1:36:06
SPEAKER_10: That's totally that's me.
1:36:08
SPEAKER_10: That's what I did.
1:36:09
SPEAKER_10: The truth is there.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_10: No matter what lies, yeah, no matter what lies compiled and shit.
1:36:14
SPEAKER_10: It doesn't mind being a ghost room.
1:36:17
SPEAKER_10: I did the best I could.
1:36:19
SPEAKER_10: That's fair.
1:36:19
SPEAKER_10: And it's better than anybody else.
1:36:21
SPEAKER_10: That's why somebody paid me and stole my shit.
1:36:23
SPEAKER_10: And or stole my shit.
1:36:25
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:36:25
SPEAKER_10: So that's where I come from with the Nikola Tesla as well.
1:36:28
SPEAKER_10: No one can take that from him.
1:36:30
SPEAKER_10: That was his knowledge.
1:36:31
SPEAKER_02: There's only two Edison in the room.
1:36:32
SPEAKER_02: That's what you're saying.
1:36:34
SPEAKER_10: That's that's fun.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
1:36:36
SPEAKER_02: Everybody can't be the same.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
1:36:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're not, you know, we identify differently.
1:36:41
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
1:36:42
SPEAKER_02: So uh I I honestly think we've been through every topic besides the prison one.
1:36:48
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, the bail.
1:36:50
SPEAKER_07: The cash mail system.
1:36:51
SPEAKER_07: You guys are one of those.
1:36:52
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, the cash bail system is uh piece of shit, and uh yeah, we spend a lot of money.
1:36:57
SPEAKER_10: I don't have my exact facts on to uh we don't do facts here, bro.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_10: Alright, well we spend uh millions of dollars on people who are in jail for the simple fact that they don't have the money to bail themselves out or seek proper uh uh defense.
1:37:10
SPEAKER_10: Um a lot of us don't realize that the prison system is a business that is making a lot of people, well, a few people money and taking away from a lot of our homes, just like you say that we joke about it's uh lack of black dads, lack of black teachers, and all that shit.
1:37:26
SPEAKER_10: That's exactly what it is.
1:37:27
SPEAKER_06: I think it's messed up because it's like if you're not a flight risk, like it's innocent um until proven guilty.
1:37:33
SPEAKER_07: So why are you locking up innocent people that have not gone on trial yet?
1:37:36
SPEAKER_07: And then a lot of them are not even convicted of those crimes, they just literally sit in the jail.
1:37:41
SPEAKER_07: Like sit in jail, you can't you can't get that time.
1:37:44
SPEAKER_10: You're not guilty, you have no money, you have no passport, you cannot be a flight risk, you have children, you have responsibilities within the town that you live in.
1:37:53
SPEAKER_10: There's nowhere for you to run.
1:37:55
SPEAKER_10: Why are you cooping them up in a jail?
1:37:57
SPEAKER_02: As a cynic, I personally think we waste too much tax dollars on the whole prison thing.
1:38:02
SPEAKER_02: Definitely.
1:38:03
SPEAKER_02: I think that that money could go to education to keep those people out of prison number one.
1:38:07
SPEAKER_07: But the point is they want Little Wayne called a three.
1:38:10
SPEAKER_07: They, as in you know who they are.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_06: What's the case?
1:38:12
SPEAKER_06: Who's they?
1:38:12
SPEAKER_06: Who's they?
1:38:14
SPEAKER_06: White heterosexual men.
1:38:16
SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
1:38:17
SPEAKER_06: The privileged.
1:38:19
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of privileged gay dudes that are white too.
1:38:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:38:22
SPEAKER_02: Who probably hate blacks just as much.
1:38:24
SPEAKER_06: Well, white men and racist heterosexual men for the most part.
1:38:28
SPEAKER_07: So it's true that it's like the judges are the ones that set these bails, and like that's objective.
1:38:34
SPEAKER_02: The judges are being paid.
1:38:35
SPEAKER_07: That's exactly.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_07: That's the thing.
1:38:37
SPEAKER_07: Like this and the amount of money that they ask for insane.
1:38:41
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that practice is subjective.
1:38:42
SPEAKER_06: Like, like it should be a percentage of the profits that you actually make.
1:38:46
SPEAKER_06: That's more reasonable.
1:38:47
SPEAKER_02: Is prison like does prison really work?
1:38:49
SPEAKER_02: Do you guys think it works, or is it just a modern-day slave system?
1:38:51
SPEAKER_06: It's a modern-day slave system, Rector.
1:38:54
SPEAKER_02: So, what would you replace it with?
1:38:55
SPEAKER_02: That's my biggest thing.
1:38:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna say devil's advocate.
1:38:58
SPEAKER_02: What devil's advocate?
1:38:59
SPEAKER_07: No, so one of the things, especially for community service, yeah, but ran into the house.
1:39:04
SPEAKER_02: Non-pilot crime, not a non-violent crime.
1:39:08
SPEAKER_06: Non-violent crimes, you there should be some sort of locking up.
1:39:12
SPEAKER_06: Because then you could go out and potentially hurt more people.
1:39:14
SPEAKER_02: But do they need bail too?
1:39:15
SPEAKER_06: Or I mean, we're gonna if if this is gonna work, it has to be applied to everybody.
1:39:21
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
1:39:22
SPEAKER_02: If you're not a flight risk, then they still should be able to go out on bail.
1:39:26
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:39:26
SPEAKER_02: Even though it's a violent crime.
1:39:27
SPEAKER_07: If it's a violent crime, then that's different.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:39:30
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we're just talking about non-violent.
1:39:31
SPEAKER_07: Non-violence with drug offenses, I'll just say, Yeah, drug offensive, drug, yeah, drug offenses like vandalism.
1:39:38
SPEAKER_07: Even like petty theft, like, what about child support?
1:39:40
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:39:41
SPEAKER_07: Child support?
1:39:42
SPEAKER_02: I want to hear the women's opinion on this.
1:39:44
SPEAKER_07: No, yeah, that's still nonviolent.
1:39:45
SPEAKER_07: I still not violent.
1:39:46
SPEAKER_07: I don't think you should be arrested.
1:39:48
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, exactly.
1:39:49
SPEAKER_07: You have to be paying children.
1:39:50
SPEAKER_10: But you still don't change the amount of people that's in jail for no reason right now.
1:39:53
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:39:54
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:39:54
SPEAKER_07: And again, we're paying for programs companies just paying them.
1:39:59
SPEAKER_07: In prison, like for people who are in prison to get education in prison.
1:40:02
SPEAKER_07: That way, when they come out, they have a degree.
1:40:04
SPEAKER_07: You know what I'm saying?
1:40:05
SPEAKER_07: Like, have it be productive if you're gonna have people stay in prison.
1:40:08
SPEAKER_07: Like if they're gonna get out at some point, have them get something out of it that can help them transition into society and get what they're doing.
1:40:16
SPEAKER_06: But it's messed up because people don't like hire fellas.
1:40:18
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
1:40:19
SPEAKER_06: Because if you go to prison, your life is basically over.
1:40:21
SPEAKER_06: Because you're gonna they make you get a job, like for parole, you need to get a job, but it's really hard to get a a a job out here.
1:40:27
SPEAKER_02: So, do you guys believe in the undesirables?
1:40:29
SPEAKER_02: Like, you don't think there's any humans on this planet that are just undesirable?
1:40:34
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, there is.
1:40:35
SPEAKER_06: Well, people that are like serial killers.
1:40:37
SPEAKER_06: So it has to be a good thing.
1:40:38
SPEAKER_10: No, there's some people who just don't want to do anything in life.
1:40:41
SPEAKER_10: There are those people.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_02: So those the guy that you know every day that's getting locked up for selling drugs, you don't like at a point you don't say, like, listen, bro, like this is not working, so let's change this.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_07: I mean, selling if he's selling butt, uh Okay, let's let's bump it up a little bit.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_02: He's selling crack.
1:40:58
SPEAKER_07: Undesirable.
1:40:59
SPEAKER_02: He's undesirable.
1:41:00
SPEAKER_02: Just because he's selling crack instead of weed.
1:41:02
SPEAKER_07: No, no, I'm I was questioning it.
1:41:03
SPEAKER_07: I'm thinking.
1:41:04
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
1:41:05
SPEAKER_07: Okay, yes.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_07: Because again, they're still gonna they're still gonna get crack from somebody, but the issue is helping the people helping the addicts, right?
1:41:14
SPEAKER_07: So helping them transition away from that addiction.
1:41:16
SPEAKER_07: I feel like it's a worse place.
1:41:19
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
1:41:20
SPEAKER_02: In the first place.
1:41:22
SPEAKER_07: Because I feel like you're gonna sell, you're gonna sell it.
1:41:33
SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna let that lie.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_10: I'm just saying it's just it's the same thing.
1:41:36
SPEAKER_02: He's too honorable.
1:41:37
SPEAKER_10: No, it's not it's not about the honorable.
1:41:39
SPEAKER_10: Brave heart over here.
1:41:40
SPEAKER_10: Just think about it.
1:41:42
SPEAKER_10: Listen to what you're saying.
1:41:43
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, we all die.
1:41:45
SPEAKER_10: What are we saying?
1:41:46
SPEAKER_07: I'm not afraid of that shit.
1:41:47
SPEAKER_07: No, I'm just saying people do what they have to do.
1:41:50
SPEAKER_07: People do what they have to do sometimes.
1:41:52
SPEAKER_07: You know, and again, things are things happen in this world that work against you because of your support.
1:41:59
SPEAKER_02: So is he undesirable if he's doing it to support his daughter?
1:42:02
SPEAKER_06: I don't I don't think so.
1:42:03
SPEAKER_06: I I think we should we should play very loose with that undesirable.
1:42:07
SPEAKER_06: Like, what does that even mean to you?
1:42:08
SPEAKER_06: Like someone that shouldn't exist, someone who should be dead, someone who should be in jail.
1:42:12
SPEAKER_02: Like, I just don't understand.
1:42:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I want to play, you know, devil's advocate.
1:42:15
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of people out here that feel like this whole prison conversation is redundant because if you do the crime, you do the time.
1:42:23
SPEAKER_02: If this is what it is, this is what it is.
1:42:25
SPEAKER_02: So if you know that there's a chance if you go to jail for the rest of your life for a minor drug offense, why even do the drug offense?
1:42:31
SPEAKER_02: Why why should anybody be singing, you know, free them and new week going in?
1:42:36
SPEAKER_07: The issue is that they are not equally targeting everybody who does that crime.
1:42:41
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:42:42
SPEAKER_07: So that's another that's another issue.
1:42:43
SPEAKER_07: Like, okay, if you did the crime, you do the time, that's totally understandable.
1:42:47
SPEAKER_07: But a lot of people that sell and purchase weed are white people, but the majority of the people in put in prison area.
1:42:56
SPEAKER_07: So again, they're choosing who they want to criminalize.
1:42:59
SPEAKER_07: So that's that's one of the big issues.
1:43:01
SPEAKER_07: Like, if you go, it should be everybody should be equal under the law, yes?
1:43:05
SPEAKER_07: So then that's another weed should be legal, period.
1:43:07
SPEAKER_01: No one has to do that.
1:43:07
SPEAKER_01: No, exactly.
1:43:08
SPEAKER_01: We should police definitely.
1:43:09
SPEAKER_07: Canada just legalized the issue, the issue with this prison system is that they're choosing, they're choosing who they want to go to prison.
1:43:17
SPEAKER_02: There's somebody wait, do you think coke should be legal?
1:43:20
SPEAKER_02: Whoa there's a function of coke and what's easy to do.
1:43:23
SPEAKER_08: I don't think it should because people can easily overdose.
1:43:26
SPEAKER_02: Because you can die.
1:43:29
SPEAKER_02: You can overdose.
1:43:31
SPEAKER_08: You can overdose.
1:43:45
SPEAKER_02: You can absolutely overhydrate your body even more.
1:43:49
SPEAKER_08: If you drink too much milk in one sitting, that can kill you too.
1:43:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so why not so illegal?
1:43:53
SPEAKER_08: I think buttons should be illegal with not coke.
1:43:55
SPEAKER_02: But why not?
1:43:56
SPEAKER_02: Because of overdosing and water should be illegal.
1:43:58
SPEAKER_07: No, but how dangerous is.
1:44:00
SPEAKER_02: How dangerous is alcohol?
1:44:01
SPEAKER_02: No, no, because coke.
1:44:03
SPEAKER_07: I'm talking about coke.
1:44:04
SPEAKER_07: I'm talking I think we're talking about colour.
1:44:05
SPEAKER_02: Coke is more dangerous than alcohol.
1:44:07
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
1:44:08
SPEAKER_02: Why?
1:44:08
SPEAKER_02: According to water.
1:44:09
SPEAKER_07: Because it's more, it's addicting.
1:44:11
SPEAKER_07: What the fuck you mean?
1:44:13
SPEAKER_11: Coke is alcohol.
1:44:16
SPEAKER_11: Alcohol is the worst drug for you, period.
1:44:18
SPEAKER_11: Point blank period.
1:44:20
SPEAKER_11: Everything in you.
1:44:29
SPEAKER_08: You can try coke once and it can kill you.
1:44:39
SPEAKER_02: But she said one is more direct.
1:44:41
SPEAKER_02: One is a lot faster than B.
1:44:43
SPEAKER_02: Not Coke.
1:44:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm not dying for coke coke or for one freeze.
1:44:48
SPEAKER_02: Without anybody else saying something.
1:44:50
SPEAKER_02: What's I talking about?
1:44:51
SPEAKER_10: AG.
1:44:52
SPEAKER_10: AG, there's no way in under a minute you can drink as much alcohol that can kill you as quick as you can take some coke, and it will kill you.
1:45:00
SPEAKER_10: Exactly.
1:45:00
SPEAKER_10: That's what you find about the quantity.
1:45:05
SPEAKER_10: That's the only difference.
1:45:06
SPEAKER_02: So that small difference is the difference between the legality.
1:45:10
SPEAKER_02: Yes, okay, okay, okay, excuse me.
1:45:12
SPEAKER_02: Excuse me.
1:45:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm pro-Coke.
1:45:13
SPEAKER_11: I'll tell you what.
1:45:17
SPEAKER_11: You said 30 seconds?
1:45:18
SPEAKER_08: I mean I think it should be so much.
1:45:22
SPEAKER_08: It should be decriminalized a little bit.
1:45:27
SPEAKER_02: You're not a good idea.
1:45:27
SPEAKER_10: But I'm just afraid of getting it if it gets into kids' hands.
1:45:30
SPEAKER_10: I said there's a very small majority of people who can do anything in 600 seconds.
1:45:41
SPEAKER_11: Okay, so let me let me know.
1:45:45
SPEAKER_11: This is all about purity and things of that nature.
1:45:48
SPEAKER_11: Are we are we going correct?
1:45:50
SPEAKER_11: Can I go?
1:45:52
SPEAKER_11: No, no, no, but but this is what this is what we're discussing.
1:45:54
SPEAKER_11: Because alcohol and coke is man-made.
1:45:56
SPEAKER_11: No, no.
1:45:56
SPEAKER_11: We're gonna go in its pure form.
1:45:58
SPEAKER_11: Go ahead.
1:45:59
SPEAKER_11: Alcohol and and good cocaine.
1:46:01
SPEAKER_09: What what is what what type of alcohol?
1:46:03
SPEAKER_09: What type of pure alcohol?
1:46:06
SPEAKER_11: Go ahead.
1:46:06
SPEAKER_11: So you take your purest cocaine and you said it, however you can.
1:46:10
SPEAKER_11: Don't even in ingest inhale in 30 to 60 seconds.
1:46:15
SPEAKER_11: You take a fucking thing of Everclear.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_11: Uh-huh.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_11: And you sit there and you fucking you ingest that shit for 30 to 60 seconds.
1:46:23
SPEAKER_11: What are you you tell like you're saying?
1:46:26
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:46:26
SPEAKER_11: Go ahead.
1:46:27
SPEAKER_10: Where are you getting your Everclear?
1:46:29
unknown: Oh my god.
1:46:29
SPEAKER_11: Where are you getting your Coke?
1:46:31
SPEAKER_10: I'm just saying this.
1:46:33
SPEAKER_07: What I think it's mainly because it can't be regulated.
1:46:36
SPEAKER_07: If it was regulated a lot better, maybe.
1:46:39
SPEAKER_06: Because once again, like the whole Schedule 1, Schedule 2 drug, isn't like weed, like they they categorize it as worse than cocaine.
1:46:48
SPEAKER_06: I don't know because there was like medical, there were medical uses for cocaine during surgeries and things like that.
1:46:52
SPEAKER_02: Cocaine gum, yeah.
1:46:54
SPEAKER_06: So Coca Cola.
1:46:55
SPEAKER_02: I understand.
1:46:56
SPEAKER_08: And cocaine was in Coca-Cola.
1:46:57
SPEAKER_08: It used to be in Coca-Cola.
1:46:59
SPEAKER_02: What I'm trying to prove to you, well, trying to bring to your attention is if you feel like cocaine should be illegal, then alcohol should be illegal.
1:47:08
SPEAKER_07: Yes, I think alcohol should be illegal.
1:47:10
SPEAKER_10: I don't think any of them.
1:47:10
SPEAKER_07: I mean, I don't I barely drink anymore because I can't.
1:47:20
SPEAKER_02: Why are we going to jail for a choice of a substance put in our body?
1:47:24
SPEAKER_02: That's the first thing.
1:47:25
SPEAKER_02: That's a that's a very controlling environment we live in.
1:47:28
SPEAKER_02: I agree with you with that.
1:47:29
SPEAKER_10: But I'm just not saying I can buy a gun by company.
1:47:31
SPEAKER_07: Because I think, yeah, alcohol kills a lot more people, probably, than complaining.
1:47:36
SPEAKER_07: Drunk drinking.
1:47:37
SPEAKER_07: Especially like car crashes.
1:47:39
SPEAKER_07: Kids want to do things that are illegal just because they're not allowed to.
1:47:42
SPEAKER_07: What do you mean?
1:47:45
SPEAKER_07: They smoke less weed than they do over.
1:47:47
SPEAKER_07: Because there's not cool.
1:47:49
SPEAKER_02: There's no cool factor.
1:47:50
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
1:47:50
SPEAKER_07: Especially in certain countries where they exactly they are decriminalizing or they're providing needles like the rates go down and the number of overdoses go down and they're able to seek help.
1:48:01
SPEAKER_07: Because again, locking them up is not a way to seek treatment.
1:48:04
SPEAKER_07: Like that's not gonna fix anything.
1:48:06
SPEAKER_07: It's perpetuating systems.
1:48:07
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, I don't think drug dealers should go to jail, to be honest.
1:48:09
SPEAKER_10: So just the bottom line is I'm I mean America's found on the drug dealing, so pharmaceutical industries they sell drugs all the time.
1:48:16
SPEAKER_08: And those drugs can only kill you too.
1:48:18
SPEAKER_02: Jesus kill you slowly.
1:48:21
SPEAKER_02: Fentanyl is bodying everybody.
1:48:23
SPEAKER_08: There's these drugs that you take, they prescribe you 30 years, your liver is gone.
1:48:27
SPEAKER_02: And it's legal as fuck.
1:48:30
SPEAKER_02: FDA approved.
1:48:31
SPEAKER_10: Listen, we've been we've been slinging opium since forever.
1:48:34
SPEAKER_10: That's how we founded this here country.
1:48:36
SPEAKER_02: No, there's there's soldiers right now in Iran, Afghanistan protecting poppy fields and don't know why they're protecting poppy fields.
1:48:42
SPEAKER_02: They're over there for terrorism, but they're protecting poppy fields.
1:48:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:48:45
SPEAKER_02: That's where that's where Fenton.
1:48:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:48:49
SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, this was uh anybody has anything else to say?
1:48:53
SPEAKER_02: Promo, plug, Instagram.
1:48:54
SPEAKER_02: Shit, what's going on this week?
1:48:56
SPEAKER_10: Anything anything new?
1:48:58
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I tried to do it.
1:49:00
SPEAKER_10: Angela Simmons baby father died.
1:49:02
SPEAKER_10: Oil?
1:49:03
SPEAKER_10: Oil.
1:49:03
SPEAKER_10: I have the oil.
1:49:04
SPEAKER_02: All right, so I don't do weed.
1:49:06
SPEAKER_10: All right, so you know.
1:49:11
SPEAKER_10: CBD oil on the other side of the fence.
1:49:12
SPEAKER_10: I love the THC weed.
1:49:14
SPEAKER_10: I tried the CBD this week, and and that shit was amazing.
1:49:18
SPEAKER_02: It does nothing for me.
1:49:19
SPEAKER_10: It does nothing for you.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_10: But that shit was amazing for me because I came out.
1:49:22
SPEAKER_10: What was your dose?
1:49:24
SPEAKER_02: It was uh I have to look at the body.
1:49:25
SPEAKER_02: I was tired.
1:49:26
SPEAKER_02: I was working for 17 72 hours straight.
1:49:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh I tried to shot at that.
1:49:30
SPEAKER_02: I tried vaping it right away.
1:49:31
SPEAKER_02: That didn't work.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_02: I tried doing the drop on the side.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_10: Just had the drop on the nothing.
1:49:34
SPEAKER_11: Okay, how long are you doing the jobs?
1:49:36
SPEAKER_11: It takes two weeks.
1:49:37
SPEAKER_11: It takes at least two weeks for it.
1:49:39
SPEAKER_11: Just like just like medication, just like any sense of each other.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_11: Okay, okay.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_11: So maybe I was being maybe that's what I'm doing wrong.
1:49:44
SPEAKER_11: You don't feel that right away.
1:49:45
SPEAKER_11: You don't feel it's not, it's not gonna be an instant thing unless you smoke like THC.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like we're loads.
1:49:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm using it for my shoulder.
1:49:52
SPEAKER_02: I got into like a really bad fight one time.
1:49:54
SPEAKER_11: But once again, like you have to, it has to be in your system.
1:49:58
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, the owner of the shop that read took me to.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_07: He his the owner had a lot of shoulder pain too and he said after two weeks he had full range and everything was great.
1:50:05
SPEAKER_06: But right now he uses a higher dosage of like a thousand milligrams.
1:50:07
SPEAKER_06: Oh I gotta check my ball.
1:50:09
SPEAKER_10: And he sends his shit out to get tested.
1:50:10
SPEAKER_10: Oh okay, it's not like one of those people that's just relying on the faith of whatever is set on the receipt.
1:50:16
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:50:18
SPEAKER_11: Anyone in the uh New York area, NYC, Long Island, look up Utopia Head Shop.
1:50:25
SPEAKER_11: Um they have a full, full, full, full uh supply of all of your C B D and smokers' needs.
1:50:34
SPEAKER_11: They got the gummies?
1:50:35
SPEAKER_10: They got all your paraphernalia.
1:50:37
SPEAKER_11: You have to have gummies, they have lollipops, brownies.
1:50:41
SPEAKER_07: They have the actual herb too that you can smoke it too, but we need 100% legal.
1:50:48
SPEAKER_07: They have it in like so many different forms, it's crazy.
1:50:51
SPEAKER_07: Gummy bears, everything.
1:50:53
SPEAKER_02: So I'll get back to you guys.
1:50:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna do the two-week prototypes.
1:50:56
SPEAKER_02: Two weeks at least Doctor prescribed.
1:50:58
SPEAKER_02: Hicksville.
1:50:59
SPEAKER_02: Hicksville.
1:51:00
SPEAKER_02: He gotta get another shot, bro.
1:51:01
SPEAKER_02: Hicksville.
1:51:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, no.
1:51:06
SPEAKER_11: That is the close one.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_11: You drive.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_11: I don't want to hear that bullshit.
1:51:10
SPEAKER_02: It's too much gas.
1:51:12
SPEAKER_02: It's a highway.
1:51:12
SPEAKER_02: Shut up.
1:51:13
SPEAKER_02: Alright, cool.
1:51:13
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so um.
1:51:14
SPEAKER_07: Oh, I was saying that Angela Simmons' baby father died.
1:51:18
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, he definitely did.
1:51:19
SPEAKER_07: R.I.P.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_07: R.P.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, which is so sad.
1:51:21
SPEAKER_07: That's so funny.
1:51:22
SPEAKER_07: Angela Simmons?
1:51:23
SPEAKER_02: Runs Reverend's daughter.
1:51:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
1:51:26
SPEAKER_02: The thick one.
1:51:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:51:27
SPEAKER_02: Her husband got killed.
1:51:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, no, not her husband, her baby.
1:51:30
SPEAKER_07: Ex-fiance, yeah.
1:51:32
SPEAKER_10: That's sad.
1:51:33
SPEAKER_07: R.I.P.
1:51:33
SPEAKER_10: R.I.P.
1:51:34
SPEAKER_07: So that was really sad.
1:51:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, uh, we don't have Zap or Um Chubbs to take us out.
1:51:40
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we can get a new outro if you guys want to experiment a little bit.
1:51:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't I do the intro, so somebody has to do the outro.
1:51:47
SPEAKER_02: Well, this hasn't been Treni money.
1:51:50
SPEAKER_10: This hasn't been Jameson money.
1:51:53
SPEAKER_11: This definitely hasn't been CBD money.
1:51:56
SPEAKER_07: But we intend on it.
1:51:58
SPEAKER_07: This has been gas money.
1:51:59
SPEAKER_02: Perfect! Can I get a per I got Can I get a perfect?
1:52:03
SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
1:52:04
unknown: Thank you.