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Sean Payton Extension, Knicks Historic Comeback, Phil Mickelson Banned From Country Club · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: lot of football on the show, but it's the NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 1: Not gonna lie. I don't like the Knicks. I love
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks. I got in on them probably ten days
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  Speaker 1: hard to bet against Jalen Brunson being the MVP. We
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  Speaker 1: How are we doing? Hopefully everyone is doing well, living life,
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  Speaker 1: enjoying life. And uh Sean Payton is because he just
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  Speaker 1: got it with Patrick Mahomes yesterday. Sean Payton today. How
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  Speaker 1: about the Knicks? What a game? Phil Micholson not having
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton got an extension, and you know, baseball. I
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  Speaker 1: was grew up a diehard Giants fan. They they've kind
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  Speaker 1: of been lost on me because they're so terrible. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't have time with a kid to follow baseball
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  Speaker 1: on a daily basis. And they're definitely not interesting or
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  Speaker 1: good enough that are worthy of my time. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they are horrendous. But in twenty ten and twenty twelve
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  Speaker 1: and twenty fourteen, the Giants were never the best team
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  Speaker 1: on paper. They had timely pitching, timely hitting, and an
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  Speaker 1: incredible Hall of Fame manager in Bruce Bochie, and baseball
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  Speaker 1: no longer views the manager position as important. It's why
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys, I know, people that are pretty
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  Speaker 1: close with Aaron Boone that said early on in his
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  Speaker 1: Yankee tenure he had to take a major discount from
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  Speaker 1: leaving ESPN. You know, this is the New York Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's doing pretty well financially, but early on, like
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  Speaker 1: the going right for some of these first time managers
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  Speaker 1: isn't very much. You have coordinators in college Ohio States
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  Speaker 1: paying Matt Patricia like three point seven million dollars. Signetti's
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  Speaker 1: two coordinators are making a huge coin and the power
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  Speaker 1: of a football coach. No one argues it from high
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  Speaker 1: school to college to the pros. And Sean Payton is
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  Speaker 1: a great example. Are the Denver Broncos guaranteed to win
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl during his tenure? They are not, but
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  Speaker 1: they are guaranteed to be relevant and they are guaranteed
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  Speaker 1: to be in the playoff mix every single year because
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  Speaker 1: before he showed up, when the Koubiak Peyton Manning era
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  Speaker 1: came to an end, the franchise became a joke. It
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  Speaker 1: lost its way. They went five and eleven, six and ten,
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  Speaker 1: seven and nine, five and eleven, seven and ten, five
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  Speaker 1: and twelve with Vance, Joseph vic Vangio and the Nate
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  Speaker 1: Hackett experiment, and they had kind of become a low
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  Speaker 1: point and luckily they get this new ownership that has
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  Speaker 1: unlimited money and Sean Payton. Let's face it, quit on
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  Speaker 1: the Saints and was available, but hiring Sean Payton immediately
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  Speaker 1: made them relevant and he was able to pivot off
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  Speaker 1: a major problem in Russell Wilson in that contract and
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  Speaker 1: within two years of that, they're hosting the AFC Championship.
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  Speaker 1: I think we can all be realistic and Patriot fans
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  Speaker 1: would probably agree if they had their starting quarterback. I
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  Speaker 1: think the Denver Broncos win that game. It was would
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  Speaker 1: have been an ugly situation, given there was the you know,
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  Speaker 1: ice storm thing that came through. But Jared Stidham, I
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  Speaker 1: know Sean Payton ducked him up. Most teams would be
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  Speaker 1: in a very very precarious situation when your quarterback breaks
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  Speaker 1: his ankle the last play of the game. But Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton shows you the power. We talk a lot about
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  Speaker 1: this with quarterbacks. You're not gonna be able to find
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  Speaker 1: a Joe Burrow of Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes, Right,
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  Speaker 1: But if you get a dak if you get a
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  Speaker 1: Jared Goff, if you get a Jalen Hurts, if you
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  Speaker 1: get a Brock Purty, and you do a good job
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  Speaker 1: of building your team, like you're gonna be good. And
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  Speaker 1: most people are not. Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick or Andy Reid, right,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously Sean Payton I kind of lump him. I
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  Speaker 1: know he's won a Super Bowl, but like there is
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  Speaker 1: a strong value in getting a guy who just knows
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  Speaker 1: what he's doing, and to me, that is Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 1: He's obviously pretty cocky, rubs some people the wrong way right,
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  Speaker 1: pisses a lot of people off all around the league
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  Speaker 1: constantly can be Ilois Argon. You know, even if fired
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  Speaker 1: what was said to be his best friend on the
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  Speaker 1: staff last year, I think it's pretty clear because they
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to lose Davis Webb. But you can't argue
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  Speaker 1: that he immediately gets hired, they give him the keys
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  Speaker 1: of the car, and three years later he's got them
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  Speaker 1: in the Indy five hundred. And that is the value
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  Speaker 1: of star coaching in college football and the NFL, because
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  Speaker 1: I think if you're a Giants fan, you look at
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  Speaker 1: the situation in Denver and that's all you want. That
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  Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that you're ever going to win a
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl again and have those ELI runs with Tom Coughlin.
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  Speaker 1: But if John Harbaugh can bring you the credibility and
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  Speaker 1: within a couple of years get you to be I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, thirty two and nineteen over his first three years,
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  Speaker 1: you will sign the bleep up for that, right Because
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  Speaker 1: let's face the other thing, Sean Payton, it's not like
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  Speaker 1: he's struck oil with bo Nicks. We got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of question marks on him as a player. He had
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  Speaker 1: some incredible moments lat in games, he also in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of those games look like one of the worst
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. So I think Sean Payton's he resurrected,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Broncos. There's no disputing it, and he
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  Speaker 1: gets a massive contract extension, which I'm sure makes him
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  Speaker 1: one of, if not the highest paid coaches in the league.
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  Speaker 1: And I think if you're a Denver Bronco fan, you're
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  Speaker 1: pretty happy with the way things are going because coming
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  Speaker 1: into this season, there's a path for you to win
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and that could not be said once Peyton
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  Speaker 1: Manning's arms stopped working and you got Vance Joseph vic
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  Speaker 1: Fangio and the Nate Hackets situation. You can say that
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  Speaker 1: now and that feels good. And that's the power of
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  Speaker 1: getting a star coach. And that's what the Denver Broncos have.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of stars, the New York Knicks, I've watched every
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  Speaker 1: dribble of this series and I almost turned it off
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  Speaker 1: last time, like they're gonna come back, And turns out,
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  Speaker 1: my producer Shane Diehard, Nicks fan bet them at halftime
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  Speaker 1: plus seventeen hundred. I said, honestly, Bro, that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the best bets I've ever heard of, because one thing
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  Speaker 1: to bet on a huge flyer. I've hit some golf
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  Speaker 1: bets that are, you know, twenty thirty to one, but
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  Speaker 1: like I'm betting them before the tournament starts. I usually
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  Speaker 1: don't live bet guys who are ten shots back heading
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  Speaker 1: into Saturday. I don't know. A soul would have been like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think the Knick's gonna win at halftime. But I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking about you know, Bobby Knight had this famous
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  Speaker 1: saying that dumb loses more game games than smart wins,
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  Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of truth to that,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that was on full display in the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks game. Right Let's face it, dearon Fox, you just
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  Speaker 1: ran out the clock. And even he said after the game, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I thought I could beat him down the
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  Speaker 1: court and thought I'd get an easy layup. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I get you're a great athlete, but last
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  Speaker 1: time I checked, Oja Ananobe's pretty elite athlete. And when
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  Speaker 1: you watch the replay of the block on the layup,
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  Speaker 1: you watch that guy stride for stride. He is covering
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  Speaker 1: some serious fucking ground, but they won the game. You know,
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: basketball has a lot of parallels to football. Chemistry matters,
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  Speaker 1: toughness matters, role players matter, adjustments matter, playing smart matters.
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  Speaker 1: You know team, you know the team. Basketball. Obviously, football
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  Speaker 1: you're very dependent on other people. If I was an
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  Speaker 1: NFL football coach, I would use that play of him
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  Speaker 1: sprinting towards the basket, leaping in the air. That's I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen every tip in in the history of basketball.
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  Speaker 1: If you factor in the finals, that's got to be
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  Speaker 1: one of the greatest plays I've ever seen. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously there's been great shots or great defensive plays throughout
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  Speaker 1: the history of the NBA, but just in terms of
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  Speaker 1: tip ins and how that went down, I would show
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  Speaker 1: that to my NFL team and be like, this is
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  Speaker 1: what effort is. This is what not giving up on
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  Speaker 1: a play is. This is the little things that we
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  Speaker 1: talk about. Twenty four seven, three sixty five. Because the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks won that game, huge reason, Darren Fox did one
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  Speaker 1: of the dumbest things you'll ever see. But because one
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  Speaker 1: of their best players, not their star player, that's Jalen Brunson,
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  Speaker 1: not their highest paid player. That's Karl Anthony Towns, but
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  Speaker 1: a guy that you know, the Golden State Warriors could
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  Speaker 1: have had, but they refused to change. Jonathan kaminga for
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  Speaker 1: him back in the day, just made an incredible playoff effort.
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  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes you know, this is why coaches
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  Speaker 1: going back to high school sports and they say it
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  Speaker 1: even once you're a professional. We talk a lot about
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  Speaker 1: real life here in business and different industries that we're
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  Speaker 1: all in the amount of a gap that you can
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  Speaker 1: make up against your competition, against people that you know
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to pass within your own company or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: just by sure consistent effort is pretty amazing. What's the
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  Speaker 1: old adage, you know, half the battles just showing up.
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  Speaker 1: You'll just pass people if you just consistently show up.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of truth to that now once you
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  Speaker 1: get into competitive industries that there's a lot of other
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  Speaker 1: successful and ambitious people everyone's showing up. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that always rings true, but if you just
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  Speaker 1: consistently try hard at whatever you're doing, you might not
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  Speaker 1: be the most talented. Obviously, there are certain vocations that
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  Speaker 1: like you can try to go into music if you
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  Speaker 1: can't sing like it's probably not gonna work out, but
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  Speaker 1: for most of us, effort will take us a long way.
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  Speaker 1: And in football, that is extremely true. Max Crosby became
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  Speaker 1: one of the best players in the NFL. Not because
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  Speaker 1: he's the fastest, not because he's the strongest. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he has high end attributes, but I wouldn't compare him
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  Speaker 1: to like Miles Garrett. I wouldn't say that he could
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  Speaker 1: bend the edge like von Miller. I wouldn't say that
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  Speaker 1: he has the raw power of a Khalil Mack or
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  Speaker 1: a Reggie White because when he is healthy, no guy,
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  Speaker 1: and he has played the majority of his career on
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  Speaker 1: a very shitty team, plays as consistently as hard. Before
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid came on the show, probably a month ago,
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  Speaker 1: we were texting and I just brought up Max Crosby
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  Speaker 1: because I think the trade had This was before he
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  Speaker 1: got traded, and he was like, he's like my favorite
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  Speaker 1: player in the league. And I bet if you just
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  Speaker 1: asked offensive coaches around the league that just go up
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  Speaker 1: against Max Crosby, they fucking love him because the number
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  Speaker 1: one thing coaches And I'm gonna do this as a father,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like try hard if you try hard. I
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  Speaker 1: look back sometimes when I was a kid, like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't try that hard. My parents my dad should have
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  Speaker 1: kicked mind ass. It's like, what are you doing? What
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  Speaker 1: a waste? Why are you even doing this? And you know,
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  Speaker 1: and basketball during the regular season has a huge, huge,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of uphill battle of the narrative that
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  Speaker 1: people just don't try hard. I mean it's true. I
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  Speaker 1: mean you ever just turn on a random NBA regular
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  Speaker 1: season game in January. It don't look great all the time.
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  Speaker 1: They definitely don't look like the playoffs. And that moment,
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  Speaker 1: just from a sure athleticism standpoint, was just a beautiful
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  Speaker 1: thing to watch. But it kind of all comes down
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  Speaker 1: to effort and want to I mean, I mean truly.
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  Speaker 1: And if you think about a lot of the guys
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  Speaker 1: that thrive in football, like you watch Puka Nakua play,
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  Speaker 1: I would say a huge part of this game is
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  Speaker 1: like and I had a wide receiver coach, tell me
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  Speaker 1: this is the combines thing. I don't think anyone in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. And this is why it's hard to project
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  Speaker 1: like his fifteen year career, but like his greatest skills,
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  Speaker 1: no one plays as hard every single snap as that
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  Speaker 1: guy at wide receiver. It's George Kittle's extremely talented player.
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  Speaker 1: His effort level is a ten out of ten. The
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  Speaker 1: Texans and Will Anderson extremely talent. That guy plays as
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  Speaker 1: hard as anyone in the league. And in part of
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  Speaker 1: playing hard, because this goes back to a Jimmy Johnson
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  Speaker 1: thing is fatigue makes cowards of us all, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that works for I know sometimes you know, I've
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  Speaker 1: seen it with this baby. I'm just not sleeping that much,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes I just have a bad mindset and kind
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  Speaker 1: of just become like a pussy. I just maybe I'll
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: text him say I'm not gonna do a podcast today.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not because I don't like what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: It's not because I don't know if it takes this
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: because I'm exhausted, and when you are doing something physical,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: if you are fatigued, the first time you tap out.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I was just talking to a dude in the sauna today.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Somehow UFC came up and I was talking to him
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  Speaker 1: about this event this weekend at the White House, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, is this thing outside? I'm like, is this
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  Speaker 1: isn't DC? I've been there a couple of times. Isn't
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: it pretty hot and humid there. But he's fighting outside
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  Speaker 1: and this guy was a big UFC guy. He's like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, uh, some of the guys are gonna be gassed.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's a big difference fighting in an arena where
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  Speaker 1: it's sixty eight degrees than being outside in the heat
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  Speaker 1: and the humidity. Could be wrong on that, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure I've seen some pictures not a big UFC guy,
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  Speaker 1: pretty big factor, you know. Uh, And you just it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing how far, even at the highest level of sports,
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  Speaker 1: effort will go, Isn't it crazy? You know, eventually Jack
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  Speaker 1: will play little league and flag football and golf or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when he's young getting into sports, and the
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  Speaker 1: number one thing all these coaches are gonna take just like,
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  Speaker 1: hey man, you gotta work at it. You gotta try hard,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of it goes in one ear and
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  Speaker 1: out the other, even going back to like once you
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  Speaker 1: get to high school and if you think about it,
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  Speaker 1: that never stops. I've been around coaches in college football
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL, like everyone gets on to keep playing hard.
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  Speaker 1: Run through the whistle, run through the ten yard line,
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  Speaker 1: run through the tap, whatever, and you gotta keep harping
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  Speaker 1: on it. Some guys just kind of naturally have it
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  Speaker 1: in him, And you know, I think at this point
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  Speaker 1: in time and safe say, the Knicks are going to
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  Speaker 1: win this series, and it's all gonna come down to
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  Speaker 1: of like their effort by one guy who didn't give
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  Speaker 1: up a play on defense and obviously didn't give up
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  Speaker 1: a play on offense in a real time it was
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  Speaker 1: probably four or five minutes, but in the in the
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  Speaker 1: course of fifteen seconds of the game and save their
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  Speaker 1: fucking season purely on effort, purely on effort, little skill,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and obviously his physical attributy even if he
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  Speaker 1: would have tried as hard if he had been a
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  Speaker 1: six foot three player, wouldn't have been the same. But incredible,
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  Speaker 1: that was That was awesome speaking of something that's not awesome.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, John, this is a football podcast. I just
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  Speaker 1: saw some other things I want to talk about. This
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  Speaker 1: feels like one of the lowest moments I've ever seen
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  Speaker 1: for a human being. I'm not like a I was
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  Speaker 1: a Tiger Woods guy, but I was always pro Phil Mickelson.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I would say the same thing early on.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I was more of a Peyton guy than a Tom guy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: But as I aged and got it more into football
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and then worked in it, like I really admire and
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: appreciate both of them. It's like, who are you now
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: a Tom Brady or Peyton Mann and guy, it's like
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: love them both. I kind of felt that way about
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Phil and Tiger, right, It's like, I'm not anti either,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you know. It's like I love Tiger, but I'm pro Phil.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I root for Phil. The story that came out today
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: is one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: for one of the most legendary golfers in the history
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: of the sport, for his home country club in San Diego.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: There was a report today that he did something in
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the clubhouse to a woman that was inappropriate that worked
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: at the course and then went out to play golf,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and it was so bad that she started saying something.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: They looked into it, and before his round ended, they
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: came and got him on the course and told him
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: he had to leave the property and then kicked him
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: out of the country club. This story broke probably six
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: seven hours ago. The more I've thought about today, it's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that's fucking insane. I've heard rumblings over the years by
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: different people of like so and so got kicked out
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: of a country club, which is really hard to do.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: You have to do something really stupid. But for them
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: to pull the trigger on kicking the hometown superstar, all
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: time great player out of the club, I don't think
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: this is something random. And Phil is you know, his
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: career has been derailed once he went to live. Tiger's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: gone through some shit. He rolled his car on a
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: residential street where I think the speed limb is like
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: twenty five thirty miles an hour while he's sucking down
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Quaylude's percocet and who knows what else. I think this
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: is ten times worse when any factor entirely didn't anybody
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and this couple car crashes victimless crime beside him obviously
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: more you know, people could died in Tiger's thing, but
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: given that no one got hit this last time, I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: feel like this is way worse from how do you
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: ever shake this? You know? I think we all look
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: at Tiger and think, like, can the guy kick his pills?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: When we look at Phil now you think all times scumbag.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: You've always you know, I know enough people in the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: golfing world. There have been rumors he has like a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: little shoot him or gavin to him. Unless I've heard
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the same thing about different football players over the years.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you hear a story about a guy who is
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: poortrayed one way, you know, in any of these sports.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard stories about people. I don't know
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: if they're true or not, but it's like you almost
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: want to believe it because you're like, that would be
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: insane if people found this out, but they you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: NBA's I don't know, this is I just don't know
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: how you ever recover from this. You know, it's one thing,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and listen, this is sad, but all the you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: there were like three different guys they got domestic violence
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: arrested over the last three weeks. You know, the tackle
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: over a couple of days ago with the RAMS, it's like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: oh tackle, It's like, well, maybe he's a scumbag whatever,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: but I'm sure if he doesn't get in trouble, they'll
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: put him in left tackle. They won't care. The story
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: would have hit a little harder if it was MATD Stafford, right,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: but you'd say it wouldn't be mad Stafford because it
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: wouldn't just like I would have been like, this gonna
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: be Phil Mickelson. Yeah. I almost had to read this
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: story twice. I just I don't see how you ever
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: shaked that, Like, how do you ever shake that you
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: got kicked out of a country club for doing whatever
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you did before you went to play. It'd be one thing,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, man, they had this tournament, they had
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: this huge party, booze was flying. Phil fucking crossed the line.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: It's like bad luck. You'd have been like, God, damn,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that ain't good. I was like, this is happen in
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the middle of the day. The other thing is like, bro,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you're fifty five. Let's just assume younger woman. She might
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: have no fucking clue who you are. Besides, some old
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: creep probably didn't hesitate to turn you in because she
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't know who the fuck you are. This is I
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: don't know, man, that's that might be an Alzheimer for me.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson got kicked out of his home course for
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: doing something with a chick that worked at the club
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: before he teed off. Did he show up at the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: course drunk? He do this sober? I need to know
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: more details before we do the mailbag. My Feugazi Friday
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: is you know, before I met Maria. She she owned
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a house in Chandler, Arizona, and she lived there. And
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: then by the time I met her, she had rented
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: it out and she had moved to Scottsdale because she
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: was doing the statement in this area and she was
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: just renting the place out. And since I've known her,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: she's rented out through a property management company and she
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: gets calls once every like three four months. Pool issue,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: pool issue, this broke, this broke, this needs is the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: chemicals are off, pool needs to be drained. She's like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: this thing is such a pain in the ass. And
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: then since I've got here, we had to redo the pool,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: which wasn't cheap. We didn't have to redo it, but
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: if we wanted to use especially the spa was broken.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: The equipment didn't work, so it was kind of all intertwined.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: We do that immediately, it looks cool. And then we
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: got a wasp problem. Might have found the wasp nest
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: in front of my house. We got a guy coming
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: out here to remove it. Hopefully that's them. Are they
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: flying around? I'm keeping my fingers crossed. But then the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: other day my guy Dave, who's who did the pool reconstruction, comes,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you know, once a week to do the chemicals or whatever.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And I see him. I'm walking to the office and
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: he's like, John, I need to talk to you. I'm like,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just like I didn't pay the bill
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: or something. And he's like, filters down. Do not go
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: back to the equipment room. It can blow up. Like what.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, He's like, your filter's broken. I'm like,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: didn't we replace that with all the stuff? And then
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: he kind of reminded me. He's like, no, we didn't
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: replace it because it was relatively new, you know, within
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: four or five years old. I'm like, well, what's that
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: going to cost. He's like, oh, probably eighteen hundred two
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: grand I'm like what. And I was thinking about I
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: don't even use the pool that much. I live in Arizona. Now,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: maybe I would more if Jack was a little bit older.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure we will, but I saw someone on
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Instagram say that like, pools are a little like boats
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that you're so excited to get it, and then you
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: get it and you realize it is just really expensive.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Things can go wrong. Obviously, they're huge liabilities and something
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: goes wrong. I think if we got a growing family
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and need to upsize a little bit for the house.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'd be fine, would not getting pool? I mean that
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: they are a major pain. They and they are extremely expensive.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And it's almost like a car because I've heard some
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: people say this that I was asking my brother about
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: this that car warranties. You know, back in the day.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I still have a twenty eleven Tahoe. I never have
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: issues with it. Well now, all the cars, well Maria has.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Somehow my wife got a brand new car before I did,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: which she needs. We got to keep her safe. These
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: new cars are basically a computer, right, so you get
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: it in twenty twenty six, Taho, you get in twenty
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty five, twenty four, twenty three, any of
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: these cars. They are very computer based, So lifetime warranties
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: on these cars. Her brother, who had like a twenty
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: twenty two, you know, Chevy ES seventy one or you
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: know Sierra truck, had an issue and his warranty had
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: just ended and he didn't get the extended warranty because
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't get I didn't. I'd always denied extended warranties too,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Like this is gonna cost seventeen thousand dollars. So all
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: these cars are so expensive. You need these extended warranties
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: because they're all computers. So you go into some of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: these maintenance shops. The dude that used to have no
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: problem getting under the Ford f one fifty and nineteen
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: ninety seven, you need to call like Elon and Company
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to figure out some of these cars and their the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: fucking price has skyrocketed to fix them. So it's like,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: be careful out there, man. You want to pool, and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: in theory, they're awesome and they kind of look good.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like the Zillo picks. That's where they really hit hard.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Look good on a Zilo pick. If I just did
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: like an Instagram live and sat in my outdoor patio
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: with the pool behind and my my Baja shelf chairs
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and the umbrella up, you'd be like, middle coff, pool
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: looks sweet. I'm like, yeah, you want me to send
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you the fucking invoice, and you get attacked by wass
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: trying to get in this bad boy. So I sometimes
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: things are overrated. I remember being a kid, I was like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: what our backyard wasn't was was long, it wasn't that wide,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: so it would have been hard to put a pool.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: But I remember being kind of young and thinking like
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: got it be? I wish we had a pool, And
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: then I remember like my friends that did we go
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: over there, go up to like whatever the main pools
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: that we used. My parents were probably smart, but I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: never even they never would have. But it's like makes
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: life a lot easier. It really does. Let's do some
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: mailbag questions at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Instagram fire in those DMS question here on the podcast.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Everything's so expensive these days scene. I don't even want
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: to say what's going to cost to get this wasp
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: ness removed? I would do it myself, but it's it's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: on my front walkway, like twenty five feet in the air,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: so there is no way. Even the tallest ladder I own,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I don't even think i'd get remotely close. I if
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I did, if they attacked, I jump fall, break a leg.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: How you know we got a young child? How can
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I carry him around if I go down injured? I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: even think the powerful raid stuff I have, I'm not
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: even sure it'll hit it. It couldn't be in a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: worse spot. I mean I had to call and get
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: help to get it removed because it's so high up there.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Love the show. Have a quick mailbag question. You think
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Mahomes plus one seventy five to win Comeback Player of
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the Year is the biggest lock of all locks, considering
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: he can stay healthy. The league loves him and favors quarterbacks.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I think they changed the rule pretty recently to if
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you just suck now he doesn't suck, but for his
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: standards was not good last year, and then are good.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: It's they want you to vote for a guy that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: was injured and missed the season. You know, Mahomes played
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the majority of the season. To me, Mahomes would be
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a lock, or I mean a heavy heavy, like it
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: would be a smart bet if you told me he
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: got hurt Week two and they went six and eleven
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: because they had no quarterback. A lot of those losses.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I mean he was a part of I think I'd
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: have to look around the league. Of all the injured
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: guys returning like George Kittle, George Kittle towards Achilles the
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: last game of a season, I would say Bosa would
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: be a guy that missed the majority of the season.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Malak neighbors a little bit of a risky because he
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: might not be healthy, but to me, it's got to
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: be a guy that missed the majority of the year
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: with an injury. Rashawn Slater, like, what if he's just
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: like the best tackle in football miss the entire season.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: To me, it's harder for offensive linemen, but it's in
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that world. I don't think Mahomes missed enough time with
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: an injury. You said the NFL can't expand because they're
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: not enough quarterbacks. I disagree. There are less than ten
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks today, but nobody suggests shrinking to ten teams.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: College football is slightly hugely entertaining despite having much less
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: quarterback talent, and the talent market already balances itself out.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Elite quarterbacks take up a huge shriff salary cap, leaving
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: less talent elsewhere. And it's not just quarterback talent to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: get spread out. Defensive talent does too. Quarterback play might
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: decline slightly, but so would pass rushers and secondaries. Expansion
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: also creates opportunities for more players like the Brady's Dax
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Purdies who weren't expected to become stars. Let me piggyback
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: on what you're saying. If they added two teams there
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: would be enough players to go around. I think the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: better argument there are enough quarterbacks, and they're currently aren't.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are gonna be a lot of bad
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: teams that don't have good quarterbacks this year. What cities
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: are gonna put them in? There's not a major city
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: that we're not a part of. In some of the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: major cities, we have multiple teams, So I don't see
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: an area, you know, for basketball that is thirty teams.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: There are a couple of markets that the NFL is
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: in that they're not Seattle, Vegas, Nashville, So you could
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: easily pivot. Now you could, I guess you could move Memphis.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Who Lebron got fucking skewered for telling Bodda's Sports that
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: he hates Memphis. I forwarded this article that Ethan Strauss
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: when I saw it. The Athletic a couple of weeks ago,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: or maybe like a month ago did a poll of like,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you know, your favorite cities, favorite places to eat, best
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: players in the league, of just a player's poll in
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the NBA, Memphis was by far their least favorite city.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: They hated Memphis. It's like, guys, we're allowed to say
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: what everyone thinks out loud. We don't have to pretend
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: all the fucking time Lebron getting killed for that was
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: a fucking joke. The entire league hates playing there. It's
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: okay to say that out loud. The players had no
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: problem telling the Athletic because it was an anonymous survey.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: At this point, Lebron doesn't give a shit either. I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: also a story that the Warriors might let they want
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Lebron to sign, they might let him live in LA
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and commute. Now it's like, yeah, on a private jet
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: or taking forty five minutes that it sounds way crazier
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: than it is to me. It's the cities. There aren't
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: cities that the that the NFL wants in on unless
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you wanted to go international. And then the argument international
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: is logistics, but you are I won't argue with there
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: are enough players to go around. There would be obviously
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: probably shittier teams, But yeah, the biggest issue is the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: cities if you're not going international. Just question for the pod,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: just curious. Do you prep for questions you answer or
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: is everything off the top of your head. I feel
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: like the Pro Bowl is the biggest fugazi in the NFL.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: If you get into the Pro Bowl just because another
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: player declined doesn't still count as making it. Who'd I
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: see the other day it might have been Andrew Berry
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: with verse talking about his two Pro Bowls being real
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. I think in the league and I try
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: to do this. Shador Sanders wasn't a Pro bowler, right,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen was a Pro bowler, So even though both
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: guys went to the Pro Bowl, but I mean Josh
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: didn't play in it. I think you're viewed now if
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you're an original Pro bowler Miles Garrett, right, JSN Puka whoever,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that is not the same as the guys that end
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: up playing the flag football game. So if you count that,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the problem is Wikipedia it does not like, for example,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I think you can find quarterbacks, cousins, car guys like
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that who've been to the Pro Bowl like four or
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: five times. I was like, they weren't actually first ballot
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers. One of the things is, and that shows
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you when guys get this rich is twenty thirty years ago,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: if you did not make the Super Bowl, you went
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl because it was a free vacation
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: to Hawaii for your family. It was fun. Google the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl rosters in like ninety seven, two thousand and two,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: they all went, oh, Steve Young, Brett Farv, you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Deon Sanders. They didn't skip the Pro Bowl. Now you
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: can't pay guys to show up, Well you can, and
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: they just go to radio row. They don't play in
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl game. When you become rich, you can
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: say no to a lot of things. Prep for the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I do it, you know, like I screenshot the question
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: so something I don't know, like the question about the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: comeback player of the Year. I googled that before because
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, then they changed the rule and they did
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: this next question I had looked up previously. A lot
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of these I just they're just kind of asking my opinion,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and if I don't know, if they ask a specific question,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I'll pull it up while I'm answering the question. But yeah,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: most of it is off the top of my head. Again,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know that much in life besides sports football,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: so it's pretty easy for me to kind of just
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: rift on something question about what do you think about
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the backers? You know, I'm not being like what he
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: aerospace engineering questionnaire? When you watched Bezos's rocket? What degree
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you know this isn't this isn't that serious? See, this
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: was a question that I've been asked because I had
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: looked it up recently after he got the contract. Is
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: question for the bag? Is it me? Or is this
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the greatest time in history to be a wide receiver?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Christian Watson just got one hundred and ten million dollars
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and he has two hundred He has twenty two hundred
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: yards and twenty touchdowns in four years. One hundred and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: ten million to a guy who, if he sneezes too hard,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: will rip a hamstring or sprain. I'm not gonna say
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the word, he said out loud. Make it make sense. Please.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is when he signed this contract,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, what are his stats? I don't remember
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: him being like a seventy five catch guy his career year.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Now his contract, it's not one hundred and ten million dollars,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: you know. I think the guaranteed wise, it was much
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: smaller than that. Let me see if I can pull
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: up the numbers. He got a thirty one million dollars
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: signing bonus, so his guarantee is much much smaller than
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: one hundred and ten million dollars. But his career year
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: was twenty twenty two, forty one catches and seven touchdowns.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: He's been banged up a lot, like twenty eight, twenty
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: nine to thirty five. Those aren't the ages of the
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: women he's dating. Those are his receptions in the last
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: three years. He there is no disputing his speed when healthy,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and he changes their offense. Some of these contracts that
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: are given out are kind of a projection in bold.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Even like her Big, I like him a lot with
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: the Steelers. He's never been a full time starter. He's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a backup now, I get it. But it also shows
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you this. If I was an older NFL player, like
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: a guy that was like sixty, I might be kind
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: of bitter and resentful these guys. It's why it's like
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: these old NBA guys are so angry. It's like, yeah,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: they see you getting two hundred and fifty million dollars.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: The fucking guys who can't even make an All Star team.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I would be too. It's just it's just human nature.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Some of these contracts get they gotta pay some guys.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: They clearly like the guy, and I think you know,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: in the Shanahan offense, if you can get the guy
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: to spread the field as a speed guy. It really
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: opens up some stuff. But I mean his last two
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: years he has twenty nine and thirty five catches, eight
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: total touchdowns. He's fast. Holy no, great time to be
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Man giving it the Rams front office
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: does not take no for an answer. What are your
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: thoughts regarding them potentially bringing Aaron Donald out of retirement.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: He seems to have stayed in decent shape based on
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: workout videos and not having to wear and tear in
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: his body from the past few seasons could serve him well,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: kind of like boxers who do a stit in prison
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and come out fresher than when they went in. Also,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: could they structure a contract with deferred payments to avoid
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the short term capit or having to dump other salaries
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: like the Dodgers did with o'tani. I think this is
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: kind of out of their hands, you know this they
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: didn't want him to retire in the first place. Like
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: this is one of those they controlled, some of the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett thing because they could keep calling, they could
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: keep offering more. This kind of comes down to does
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: he want to do it or not? And it you know,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Schefter said this week he does you know some of
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: those videos that come out of his home gym of
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: him just like Incline pressing freeways like two hundred pounds each, guys,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: fucking bricks. Shitouse he comes back. Shit, I don't know.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Kind of leads into this next question. I'm from Seattle
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and trust John and Mike. Do you think they need
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: to make some moves after Miles Garrett trade and turn
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the NFC West into an arms race, maybe picking up
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: someone like Joey Bosa. I think the forty nine ers
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Seattle will do the same thing. I think they will
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: slow play it through the season, and you know, Seattle
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: plans on competing for the one seed. I think the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Niners are more of a wildcard team. But if you're
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: in the mix, you know exactly what you need. And
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: they pounced the trade deadline. Seattle did it last year
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: with Rashid's Shahid, who they re signed. I think they
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: will do that again at whatever position that they'll be
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: in the mix to get. And I think the forty
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: nine ers have proven over the years like they've made
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of trade deadline trades, but I think at
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: this point in time you can't really match them. It's
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like what you know, Joey Bosa. Joey Bosa wasn't that
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: good last year. I think you're just kind of in
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: a wait and see mode. You gotta be kind of careful.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: You kind of got to trust your own process. To me,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that's the key. You got to just kind of let
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: it ride and ease into it and then kind of
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: check out the landscape maybe five six games in, because
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be both be fun, especially Seattle unless the
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinators off, which is not nothing. Lifelong Cheese fan,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Are we seeing a Mahomes fall off? I get he's
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: been I guess there's been some personnel and scheme issues,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: but it seemed like Brady could perform with anybody at
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. Patrick did not play well last year, but
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I think a lot got put on his shoulders. Their
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: personnel was hit or miss and it kind of snowballed.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: And a couple of years ago he was not playing
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that well. Was it twenty twenty three? Remember they had
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: lost a bunch of games. He had thrown a bunch
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: of interceptions. They lost the Raiders on like Christmas Eve
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: or Christmas. It was Christmas. I was really hungover that day.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I remember watching in bed. I was deathly hungover, the
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: most hungover I've been in I mean, I don't really
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: get hungover as much anymore because I'm not drinking, not
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: by choice, just because I'm terrified to be hungover and
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: having to wake up in the middle of the night.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: But I remember watching that game, like in the fetal
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: position of my back at my mom's house, and he
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: threw a pick six to h who was not Jason Jones,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: but the corner who got in some trouble from Arizona State,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: and then he kind of figured it out and they
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: won the playoff run and they beat the Bills in
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the Ravens they win the Super Bowl. So I think
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: they have a lot of given why they gave that extension,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: they have a lot of trust in him figuring it out,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: and I think the easiest way to get him back
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: on track. You see the picture of Josh Simmons, the
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: dude they drafted from Ohio State. Guy looks like a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: UFC fighter, right. He is jacked, and he's a guy
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: that would have been a top ten pick. There were
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: some question marks with him, you know, I think off
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the field a little nothing terrible, not you know, Andy's
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: pretty liberal that way. But this wasn't that bad. It
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't Tyreek Hill or Shee Rice. But then he tore
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: his knee. He's got a chance to be Their offensive
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: line's got a chance to be good, and you get
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the enemy back there with Kenneth Walker to me run
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the ball, I asked, Andy, you're gonna lead the league
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: in rushing. He laughed because he knows I'm messing with
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: him because he likes to pass. I think they really
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: need to lean into the run, lean into the run
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and let Spags get these young guys on defense. They'll
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: be back because double digital win team. But they need
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Patrick to me. One thing Peyton and Tom could really do,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and this is sometimes a strength can turn into a
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: weakness because you know you have that in your back
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: pocket and that scramble ability, pull something out of your
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: ass and make a play. Tom Brady and Peyton Mannon
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: could not play like that. They didn't have the capability.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: So they always had to be want to get rid
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: of the ball. If my offensive line's playing bad, if
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I got shitty personnel, we just got to figure it out.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Patrick can just past the ball, run around, and I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: think he just kind of got into some bad habits
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: last year, and Travis didn't play well. I mean, this
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: didn't play well. I wouldn't bet against Patrick Mahomes. If
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: you switch Stafford and Rogers with the Packers and the Lions,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: does Stafford get more than one ring? And does Aaron
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: fall off a cliff when you mix in the type
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: of person he is with the dysfunction back when he
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: was in Detroit. I think the answer is yes to both.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I'll defend Aaron here in a lot of those years
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: with McCarthy when they had really, really good teams and
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: he was winning. You know, he won in ten, I
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: think he won what he win the MVP and eleven
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: in like fourteen, their defenses in eleven they lost to Kaepernick.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: In the forty nine ers, their defense was atrocious. Their
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: defense was really bad. And I think the play calling
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: in the fourteen game against Seattle was pretty shitty too. Now,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I do think Aaron underachieved that year. The year they
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: should have won. It was against Tom in that NFC
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: championship game. That was bad. Those couple of years twenty
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: and twenty one. Where did Aaron win the MVP those
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: two years or twenty one and twenty two? I might
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: have my years a little off. That feels pretty disappointing.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: But I Aaron, you know, I don't know if he's
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: always I think you change as a guy. So I
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: would say Stafford feels like he's been relatively consistent over
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: his career as a human being. But he had bad
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: habits too. You know, he got turnover Happy a couple
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: of years ago with Sean, So I think Aaron always
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: protected the ball a little bit better. But you could
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: make the argument he had better coaching. I mean he
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: had the Packers' infrastructure. Ed McCarthy, I think this under
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: sells Rogers a little bit. I think he would have
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: been pretty freaking good. You know, now, do they ever
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: change the mechanics and get him going right that McCarthy did,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't have got to sit because coming out of
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: college is not even close. Stafford was infinitely better. I
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: mean Stafford. In my lifetime of watching football, like go
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: mid nineties to now, I would say the best prospect
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: over that time was Andrew Luck. I would say Peyton
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Manning was pretty hype prospect, Caleb pretty freaking high. Crazy
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: is like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes were not viewed
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: that way right. Roethlisberger was not viewed Tom Brady was
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: not viewed that way. I would say Stafford as a
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: prospect was viewed better as like Caleb cam Newton. Trying
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: to think of other years they had some big time guys.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I think he's viewed as one of the best prospects
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: of the Internet era coming out of Georgia. So yeah,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I think you put him with the Packers. I think
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: he equals Aaron's career, no doubt about it. Could it
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: be better maybe, but offense a lot of times was
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: not the Packers problem. I want to get your thoughts
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: on how well the Rams have kept these big moves
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Simpson and Garrett under wraps, watching my Eagles be a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: constant talking point everywhere, waiting for the Brown trade and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: now it's not even quote the trade of the day.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I think the two situations are very unrelated, but somehow
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: have polar opposite media investigations despite us knowing the Browns
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: restructured Garrett's contract to move him. Is it just props
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Rams and the Browns. Well, Aja became a huge story
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: because of him. He kept talking, he kept reading the books.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I respect I'm not the biggest Jalen Hurts fan. As
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: a player, he is as good at the podium as
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: anyone in the LEA history, cause he's kind of he
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: can kind of talk, but he doesn't really break character.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: He's a more personable like Belichick. He doesn't give you anything.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And he was asked specifically about the AJ Brown situation.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: It's like, God, this guy's it's like he's very serious.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: He's not really gonna smile, but he's never gonna give
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: in and just allow. He was even asked about the
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: article that came out after the season about him fucking
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: up the plays or whatever, and he's like, yeah, I'm
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: just gonna let him live. And it'd be most guys.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I might have taken the bait I might have thrown.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I might have said, fuck these guys. Yeah, I got
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: some takes on this. I've been stewing. I'm sure he has,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: but he doesn't. He's really good at the podium for
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: what a coach in an organization would want, but AJ
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: made it a big story. Miles Garrett was a huge
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: story last year when he begged to get traded and
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: they put a one hundred million dollars in front of
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: him and he signed it. So I think the Rams
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: and the Browns deserve a lot of credit. Being quiet
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: about moves that can blow up in your face matters.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: You know, we talked to Andy about it last week.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear I didn't hear a soul talk about
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: delaying to the Chiefs. Not a soul. No one talked
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: about Tys Simpson of the Rams, the Miles Garrett thing.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: You know, Miles wanted to get traded. You know, once
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: he found out to go to the Rams, he wasn't
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: gonna tell a soul. Probably told his agent, you want
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: to make percentage off of my deal. You keep quiet, too, buddy,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: because that's how a lot of stories get out. It's typically,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: you know, not Howie or less Need calling Adam Schefter,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: not saying they wouldn't to break a story. A lot
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: of time, the agents they'd be talking so and the
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: It's not often the players are hitting up like rap
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: sheet like, Hey, I think I might get traded, but
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go there leak this. I'm not
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: saying that has never happened. But yeah, I don't think
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: it's an indictment on the Eagles. With the AJ Brown situation,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: he's the most traded player who ever lasted on a
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: team six months of the offseason that we'll ever see
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: because of the these gave him a huge extension. If
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: they hadn't, they would have traded him six months ago.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I know you've been fairly lukewarm on the twenty fourteen playoff.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: One of your main points is the blowouts in the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: first round. My pushback would be this, most twenty four
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: team playoff models have top eight with a buye. I
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: think this would actually make the first round more palatable
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: and weed out the weaker team for the second round.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: A two way in for instance, and last year might
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: have gotten a BYU type team, which isn't super exciting,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: but in a way more competitive than watching them play
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Old miss or Oregon. Losing out on some solid fringe
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: top ten teams this year, like Vandy Notre Dame Texas
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: was disappointing. The bull system is so unwatchable at this
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: point that I think you got to lean in the
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: expanded playoff Listen. You bring up some good points. Notre
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Dame was clearly one of the top five teams in
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: the country this year. I don't feel as much sympathy
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: for Texas Vandy. You go ten and two. They were
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: really good. Sixteen teams to me is enough. These teams
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: are all playing each other during the season. We do
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: not need twenty four teams. We just don't. I think
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: that's too many, especially in a world that is as
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: slanted as it is now with the money for the
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: big programs. So it's not a fair fight. You've seen
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: this recently in college basketball last couple of years. The
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: best teams have with all the money, are winning most
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: of the games in the tournament. They have a huge advantage.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Ohio State is gonna be fucking awesome every single year.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Oregon is gonna be awesome every single year. Now, they
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: might not win the championship, but they are locked playoff teams.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: They're just spending too much money on their roster. Texas,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: if their quarterback just plays decent, is gonna be in
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. They have more money than every team in
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the SEC. So I hear Miami, same thing. They have
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: huge cash buying all these players. Twenty four to me
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: feels high because there's more. I think the D ONEA
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: does twenty four right in this scenario, you're saying, probably
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: fifteen teams can win it. I just don't believe that's
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the case in college football right now. Good question. Appreciate everybody.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend doctor soon so you the volume