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EXPOSED: US Chemtrail Operation Began in ‘96 & Silicon Valley’s Sinister Role w/ Peter Kirby · Man in America Podcast

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. What did we do to our skies? Like, I I remember being a kid and just looking up and being in total awe, the beautiful clouds against the blue sky. It was just amazing.
• 0:32
  I'd spend my summers just staring at the sky and looking for animal shapes in the clouds, and that's what the sky looked like. But now, I've seen it all over the place. You look up, whether it's your own sky or the videos you're seeing across the nation, and the sky is just crisscrosses of chemtrails, just filling the skies with concoctions that very few people are ever allowed to even gather and analyze. And most people, they just don't look up anymore. Or maybe they do, but they just think it's always been that way.
• 1:06
  But how did we get here? Like, how did America's skies turn from beautiful blue to just crisscrossed government gray? And who's involved with this, and how far back does it actually go? So my guest today has answers to those questions and more. So his name is Peter Kirby, and he's a researcher, he's a writer, he's an activist, and he's the author of a book called Chemtrails Exposed, a New Manhattan Project.
• 1:36
  So Peter's been digging into this for over seventeen years. I mean, really, really digging. His latest book is already the second edition, which was update updated after another decade of research. The history, the patents, the institutions, the money trails, it's all there. It's not a rant.
• 1:52
  It's a documented case, affecting you right now above your head. Now, I've been studying this stuff for quite some time myself, so I didn't go into this expecting to learn a ton of new things, because I again, this is a big passion of mine, but honestly, Peter gave me data and information I had no idea about. He goes into Silicon Valley's connection to all of this. He gets into the CIA's involvement, and he gives you specific details and dates like why you never saw domestic chemtrails before the year 1996. That one's gonna hit you.
• 2:24
  Because once you know the why behind the data, the whole picture just changes and things start to make a little more sense. So in this conversation, we're gonna go deep. We're gonna cover things you've probably never heard of before. But if you breathe the air and we live under the same skies, then this information is vital, not just to take in, but to share with the people that are around you. And I'm on this journey to uncover and reveal what happened to America and what happened to our skies and the air that we breathe is this a really, really important piece of the puzzle.
• 2:56
  So get ready for this conversation with my guest today, mister Peter Kirby. Mister Peter Kirby, it's good to have you on the show. It's our first time talking, but I'm really looking forward to having this discussion with you.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for having me, Seth. It's great to be here.
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: So, obviously, we're talking about your book behind you, Chemtrail's Exposed, New Manhattan Projects. There's a lot to get into with that. But before we jump into that though, I actually you know, you and I were chatting before we started recording and just talking about censorship. And I think that so when you think censorship, people think, okay, people being deplatformed, they're being kicked off of Twitter, etcetera. But what I was sharing with you is what I've seen, because I'm I'm an independent podcaster.
• 3:37
  I'm funded by the really, through my own initiatives and through really the the readers and the the listeners and the watchers of the show. And so I'm I say whatever I want to, and that gets me in trouble sometimes, but I like having that freedom. I don't do well with authority. And, but there's a lot of really big, big people that have come into this space in the past couple of years that have huge reach that you think, okay, how how is it they're getting, you know, 400,000 views on every Twitter post? And they're they've got 10,000,000 YouTube subscribers now, and there's a club.
• 4:08
  Right? That's the thing is that this only way to put there's a there's a glass ceiling that you either get invited into it or kind of plucked into it or blackmailed into it, but there's something there. And, I just wanna see your thoughts on that because you're coming at this from a different angle as an author touching subjects that the mainstream doesn't want to acknowledge and is oftentimes attacking. So what are your thoughts on that?
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: Now you're striking a rich vein here, Seth. You know, I'm somebody who's been in the new media since before there was new media. I mean, I'm somebody who was selling little pamphlets that me and my buddy put together in high school for a dollar in the halls. You know what I mean? I'm somebody who was who made videos and was selling them out of my taxi cab, you know, when it because I had like a little plaque that had like an advertisement for a video.
• 4:58
  I'm like, here, take a look at this. It's a documentary about the San Francisco taxi cab industry, and I sold copies, you know. And I was I had an article written about me in this little throwaway newspaper in San Francisco called the San Francisco oh, I forget what it was. No, it was a giveaway newspaper. But yeah, that was my first interview that happened in like 2000, 2001.
• 5:19
  I mean, I got started in this this thing that we call the new media, which still didn't have a name in around 2009. And, you know, over time, it's only that the term new media has only come, you know, really into use in about the past few years or so. But, know, when I started in this thing, was there was nothing going on really. There was no new media. I mean, were people posting things and there were people making videos and older videos that we could look at.
• 5:44
  But, you know, it was more of the just like people just grassroots people just doing little things that got like no notice in the mainstream media and hardly any notice on the internet. And you know, of course, everything's just completely exploded in the past few years. I think that the real seminal year was twenty twenty twenty twenty four, the election year. That was the biggest year ever for the new media. And that was when it was just like, you know, the new media is running things.
• 6:17
  Like, if you're not with the new media, just people are just aren't listening to you. You know what I mean? If you aren't coming with something fresh, and people that people can latch on to and connect with, then, you know, you're just done. I'm talking about the mainstream media. Then they're they're just like this zombie media thing.
• 6:32
  But I heard this and I can't remember where I heard this, you know, I listened to new media shows and you know, I concentrate on my work mainly, but generally, know, if I'm eating lunch or something, know, I'll fire up a video. And I forget where I heard this, but someone was saying that the way this works is that the establishment has infiltrated the new media. And the way they do this is that they'll contact, like, someone from, let's say, the CIA or the NSA or whatever, and they may not even present themselves as as an agent of some intelligence agencies or something, but they contact people with hot podcasts, you know, like new hot podcasts who obviously have skills in this kind of stuff. And they say, hey. We want you to, you know, pump up America.
• 7:18
  You know, kinda like a Voice of America kind of a thing. We're like, okay. We see that you're a patriot, and you are a patriot. Right? I mean, you wanna you wanna help.
• 7:25
  You wanna be on the on the winning team. Right? Well, if you if you, you know, continue to just put out pro America stuff, you know, which is what I you and I do naturally anyway. But, know, if they say if you continue to do that and and don't cross any lines, and don't don't make us angry, and don't put anything out that that we don't agree with, we'll pay you $20,000 a month. How does that sound?
• 7:46
  And they say, absolutely. Let's do this. You know what I mean? Because obviously, there's people with just seems like unlimited funds, who are just like, you know, jumped into the pool here, they've done a cannonball and the water is just, you know, splashed out all over the place. We're left with like, you know, half the pool.
• 8:05
  You know what I mean? They're sucking up a lot of the oxygen. You know, God bless Tucker. But I mean, you know, he's a big fish in a small pond, or at least when he was when he started. And, you know, he sucks up a lot of the oxygen, but he's actually, you know, doing a good job.
• 8:19
  And, you know, there's other he's really the only one, and your show kind of reminds me of his, you know, the rustic kind of thing. But, you know, he's really the only one from the main that has successfully migrated from the mainstream media and been respected in the new media. But yeah, he's the classic example of coming into this with probably hundreds of millions of dollars, you know, but he's he's he's doing good work. So so God bless him. There there's other people that aren't doing so so good work.
• 8:47
  You know what I mean? They're just, you know, going about pleasing their masters. So we have all this new competition here, you know. And thanks for having me on the show, because, you know, if it weren't for guys like you, I'd be completely drowned out.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: And that's what, that's, you know, and I agree with everything you said. I think I actually saw one of the interviews that you may have been referencing with a guy that I think was former CIA or something. He was talking about, you know, propaganda controlling narratives and how that yeah. That happens where they'll take these kind of up and coming podcasts that are, you know, independent. They'll come in, and they'll have a they'll be at a coffee shop, and a guy will sit down next to them.
• 9:21
  You know, they have no idea this guy is CIA or Mossad or any kind of intelligence agency, and they'll say, hey. You know, they'll flower you. Hey. I saw you know, hey. I I saw your channel.
• 9:30
  You're doing really great. And and, you know, there might be a conversation like, you know, hey. We we'd love to have you help really support the American message. And, you know, we think that you can do that. And and it's just really they play into the obviously, to all the human emotions of, like, this guy, wow, he thinks I'm really good, and he confident me.
• 9:46
  And and they'll say, okay, hey, look, we're gonna give you how about $20,000 a month just to, you know, to really help support your mission? And and oftentimes, people just be like, okay. Great. You know, they'll take it. They'll probably sign somewhere, so and then they're kind of they've you know, it's kind of the famous Bob Dylan.
• 10:00
  Right? They kinda sign their soul away. But oftentimes, if they refuse it, they'll come back with some sort of blackmail, which I've heard those instances also. Well, they'll say, hey, well, we've we've got your search history, and we've got this incriminating information on you, whether it's real or not, because they can fabricate that stuff. Mean, there's there's you know, that's a whole different story.
• 10:19
  And Mhmm. Before you know it, you're just part of this this narrative, and and you see it. Right? You see it even with the whole the after this recent shooting, you saw there's probably 20 or 30 different big MAGA accounts. They're all saying, okay.
• 10:33
  Here's why we gotta build the ballroom. Here's why gotta build the ballroom. Here's it was the same message across all these accounts. And, you know, regardless of whether they're well intentioned or not, whether it's pro America or not, for me, it's like I have this spidey sense that whenever there's any type of centralized distribution of information, it makes me feel very suspicious, even if it's information you might agree with because that right there is that's propaganda. Right?
• 11:04
  That is that it's social engineering. And especially, obviously, as you mentioned, you had this big boom of this kind of new media coming out, in the past ten years or so, especially the rise of podcasts. They refer to Trump's, you know, pres presidency as the podcast presidency. Right? He won through Theo Vaughn and these big podcasts throwing their support behind him.
• 11:22
  But they had to it's like they're not gonna allow this huge, powerful tool of information dissemination to exist without them having control levers over the key areas of that. And so yeah. I mean, and, again, like, with what you're talking about chemtrails, like, this is kind of one of my litmus tests is that there's certain issues that you'll see that a lot of these big accounts, they don't even touch these issues. They won't touch a lot of the Epstein stuff. They won't touch anything to do with MK Ultra or, you know, some of the survivors and, you know, of those things.
• 11:54
  They they really won't touch chemtrails. Really wanna keep you focused on the the battleground where you'll never win. They wanna focus you focus on the left versus right, on, you know, America versus Iran. They wanna kinda simplify into these a versus b, these Mhmm. Edward Bernays style, you know, do you want Coke or Pepsi type discussions?
• 12:14
  And you whenever you hear you saying, I I wanna drink organic green tea. I don't want Coke or Pepsi. They're both gonna kill me. So anyway, it's, it's good to have this conversation with you.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I might have heard about that on your show because I've been watching episodes of your show lately. You seem to know quite a bit about that.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can say that as of right now, thankfully, no one's ever approached me. And if they do, I'll just, you know, by my own soul, I just, I couldn't do something like that.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: No, know. You know, they don't approach people. They first they assess you, you know what I mean, before they make any kind of offer. This is how I gather how things work. And, you know, from our conversation before this started, you know, that I'm going into like some really deep stuff as to like how the establishment works and stuff.
• 13:03
  And that's kind of classified right now. But yeah, they'll they'll look your show, they'll they'll feel you out look at some episodes and stuff. And they'll be like, they they'd look at you and say, nah, then this ain't gonna work with this guy. You know what I mean? There's like this, because I've never been offered either.
• 13:18
  They know they couldn't buy me. I mean, you know, it's just I go with my gut. Yeah. I don't, I don't pursue money necessarily. I mean, you know, the way I look at it, fortune follows godliness.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Not the other way around. Yeah. Yeah. So, know agree. You know, all I really have is my relationship with God.
• 13:40
  I I could take all this stuff and any, you know, tiny little bit of money that I have in my bank account and just throw it onto a to a bonfire. You know what I mean? And and I you know, I'll take the birds. I'll take people that I love. Yeah.
• 13:56
  And you know, that's that's what I'm looking for. And, you know, I just hope that I can I'm not really very comfortable right now because I don't have money. But, you know, I'd like to I think that that will will happen in the future. And let's, let's let's start talking about the censorship of this issue, Chemtrail's, my issue.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah, there's there's a handful of things I want to touch on with this. Obviously, we've got your your your book, which we'll touch on. So I'll make sure that we have a link, for this book in the show description.
• 14:25
  Kim A New Manhattan Project. So we're gonna be, kind of touching upon that. We've also gonna be talking about, what's happening over at Geofight. So I'll be interviewing, to my friend, his attorney Tom Rens, pretty soon about this. They've got a new organization, called the Geofight, which is really it's taking a lot of the the legal lawfare that Tom Rens and his team learned about, you know, through COVID and everything, and they're applying it now to geoengineering.
• 14:52
  There's a, a recent as it kinda shows up here, that they've got a first their first lawsuit has just been filed on behalf of a whistleblower, getting into the manipulation of of weather data. We'll talk about that as well. But one thing, you know, before we kinda dive into the kind of the inner, the details and the fundamentals of this, of geoengineering, I know that you're someone that you see a much bigger picture, and in terms of how these things fit together. And so I wanted to just get your thoughts on this in terms of where the geoengineering, where this push, where the funding, like, where is the control coming from? And I'll frame that a little bit because when RFK was kind of just kind of stepping into his role, you had Lee Zeldin, there was a lot of this this energy and this belief that the Trump administration was gonna stop geoengineering.
• 15:47
  And you had you had even statewide bans happening. It was Tennessee. You had Florida. You had various states that were saying, hey, we're gonna end this. But also, I think that when you look at those levels at the national or the state level, you're it's almost you have to believe that the initiative and the funding is coming from the federal or the state level.
• 16:09
  But my own research has shown me that this is a much bigger system. This isn't just about what a state can do. Like, this is something that is much, much bigger. And so when you look at this whole pyramid of control that's making sure that our skies are just poison, which they they are most days, unfortunately, where do you trace this control mechanism? Is it something above the federal government?
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• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, the same people that are covering it up are the same people that are doing it. I'm talking about big tech. I'm talking about big tech. And this is why I'm censored so viciously.
• 18:35
  It's because the the very mediums that I'm using to get my message out are completely corrupt. Completely corrupt. I get I get censored up one side and down the other like you wouldn't believe. Even on the free speech absolutists website, x. I get censored on there all the time.
• 18:55
  I mean, the dude is just a liar. And yeah. So it it I mean, it makes sense that the same people that are covering it up would be the same ones doing it. Right? My research indicates that all roads lead to Silicon Valley.
• 19:11
  You can trace the evolution of the project physically as it moves across the country and embeds itself into Silicon Valley. It started in the Northeast with Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a lot of other old, you know, Northeast establishment firms and scientific organizations and things. Know, GE scientists were involved in all that. Langmuir, Schaefer and Vonnegut, I go into all this in the book and there was also, you know, a secret project going on with the federal government. That was the actual project that was headed by Von Karman and had to do with Teller and Von Neumann and all this kind of stuff.
• 19:53
  They created something called the scientific advisory board that was tasked with creating this second secret second generation weather modification project. This was their mandate in in classified documents at the time. They came out later, and I have it all in the book. But it started in the Northeast, and and then they found that their environment in the Northeast was a little crowded, they needed more room to conduct like larger field experiments. And the first of those were done in Texas with these space charge experiments.
• 20:27
  And then so that's that's going down into Texas, know, the home of the Bush family. Who, you know, that's the area that they inhabit, know, the Northeast in Texas. And I have, you know, just scads of information and scads of connections to the Bush family in my book. So anyway, so it starts in the Northeast, goes down to Texas, and the next thing you know, it's over in New Mexico at the Langmuir School of Atmospheric Physics or something like that. That was established at Vincent Langmuir.
• 20:58
  He was one of the he was the first scientist to win the Nobel, first industrial scientist to win the Nobel Prize. He won it in chemistry, was a GE scientist, but they named a laboratory after him down there around the University of New Mexico. Today it's called a New Mexico Tech, it's had different names in the past. On this Mount Baldy, they built an observatory and they had like a wire strung across a chasm and they electrified the wire in the vein of a space charge experiment, and I don't want to get into what space charge, but you'll sort of understand from what I'm saying here. And then they generated huge clouds of particulate matter to go and blow over this area with this electrified wire unsheathed with direct current so that there would be like an electrical physical effect around the wire.
• 21:51
  Creates like, you know, areas of different polarities and things. But yeah, they were running like large pre, well, I would say medium scale operations in the vein of what I call the New Manhattan Project. See, because this second generation weather modification project is basically the combination of particulate matter and electromagnetic energy. That's the electromagnetic energy aspect of it sets it apart from what we call the conventional cloud seeding industry, which also came into being right after World War II. But anyway, so you see it go from the Northeast down to Texas, down to new over to New Mexico, and then it goes to Silicon Valley because that's where all the high technology was with Fairchild Semiconductor whose primary customer was the United States government and building weapon systems and semiconductors used for weapon systems and all this because that's what this whole thing is.
• 22:43
  It was developed as a weapon system, you know, to control the weather against, like, conceivably against a foreign enemy. So even if you had knowledge of it at the time, I mean, there were probably people who had knowledge all knowledge of it. And they're like, yeah, we're building a weapon system we're gonna use against enemies and foreign lands. The only the only thing wrong with that is that 1966, they turned all this stuff against us. Like, they say 1966, 1996, when the large scale domestic spraying operations began, that's when they turned all this stuff against us and started doing it domestically.
• 23:14
  So you know, don't even have beef with Silicon Valley or the weapons systems developers there such as Fairchild. Well Fairchild's long gone, but you know there's been all kinds of high technology weapon system developments going on in Silicon Valley. So you know and then you see also Lawrence Livermore National Labs right here in the Bay Area. They've been the premier buyer of supercomputers forever. So supercomputers are an necessary component of this weapon system, and they've always been at the forefront of buying and developing supercomputers.
• 23:49
  Not only that, they've also been at the forefront of atmospheric modeling. Lawrence Livermore National Labs, they had something called the PCMDI. Now I'm gonna try to get this acronym right. PCMDI Project for Climate Model D, I forgot what the D is, and Intercomparison.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Wait, there you go. Wait, Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Right?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: See, this is what I have to deal with, Seth. Like, I've got just, like, thousands of acronyms I'm supposed to know. You know what mean?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I I can't still remember what ASAP means. ASAP. Well, just a quick question. Well, more of a comment than than a very specific question I have is that, you know, one thing that I've learned in my my research is, you know, there are layers and layers of of deception, obviously. And so one thing is is that Silicon Valley, you know, and also a lot of the universities and the research programs, in my understanding, these are basically just fronts for the military industrial complex.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Mhmm.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Right? So, you know, we're sold this story of these unicorn companies of the Facebook that started the day after life DARPA's life log shut down. Right? We're we're sold this information. I think what they've been really clever with their ability to build and actually and actually build and distribute and use these weapon systems against our their own people.
• 25:14
  But it's it's done if you look you trace a lot of Jepse the Epstein network. Right? It's done through, you know, college laboratories. It's done through, quote, unquote, public companies. And so when you say, oh, it goes to Silicon Valley, it it's it's like the simplistic way of thinking, oh, why would Mark Zucker be wanting to spray us?
• 25:32
  It's like, no. No. No. You're missing the whole point. It's Silicon Valley is just this front.
• 25:37
  It's just this facade for the military industrial complex, which is then used as to turn against us. Mean, would you would you agree, or what what are your thoughts on that?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's that's what my research indicates, is that all this was done largely I mean, it was built over the decades through public funding as just like, you know, this is weather research, you know, that was comp compartmentalized. So you could have, you know, pretty much all of it compartmentalized and just tell that that one person who's doing what they do to, you know, all only what they need to know. They don't know what the whole picture is, and they don't know that in the future it's gonna be used against us.
• 26:17
  You know what I mean? So the whole thing is compartmentalized. And people have this conception of Silicon Valley as, you know, oh, it's the home of Facebook and Apple Computer and stuff. Well, that that's just that is, again, this is the public facade of Silicon Valley. They they grew up as a weapon system developer.
• 26:35
  All of Silicon Valley started with Fairchild Semiconductor, who's, like I said, whose primary customer was the United States military. That's that's what and then there are a whole bunch of firms that basically spun out of that, that created Silicon Valley. This is how the whole thing got started. And so, you know, there's there's just tons of connections between today's military and Silicon Valley. And so what we're looking at, as far as, you know, who's doing it, is a combination of the old CIA Bush Rockefeller deep state that built this thing and big tech.
• 27:11
  And then there's also a Taiwan component to this.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Now again That's interesting because I saw on your Rumble channel that you had something about the Tainan Airport. And so I've spent a lot of my life in Taiwan. I used to travel to Hong Kong and Asia quite often. And I love Tai you know, Taiwan. I've been all over down to, you know, Kanding and the beaches, up to the mountains.
• 27:34
  And, know, I've done motorcycle tours around the island. And then I saw that, and I thought, interesting. How how is Taiwan tied into this global spraying operation?
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Taiwan is is basically owned by the CIA. It's like their country.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: If you know the history, they were the ones facilitated the nation of Taiwan in, what was it, 1950 when the the Nationalist Chinese were expelled to the former island of Formosa. They probably would have been annihilated if The United States and specifically the CIA didn't step in and, you know, fortify them and, you know, cause them to cause China to not invade. I mean, you know, basically, the only reason China hasn't invaded all these years is because America's been backing up Taiwan. And it's been a whole it's been the CIA. It's been a CIA job all the way from top to bottom, from the beginning, up until today.
• 28:37
  And, you know, I have the whole history. I've read all the books. I could go into more detail. But the pertinent fact of this is that, okay, first of all, you know, Taiwan Semiconductor is the premier semiconductor manufacturer in the world, I don't think that's a mistake. I think they needed a company in a foreign country to create semiconductors for, you know, dirty stuff that the American people would, you know, be outraged if they heard about it so they could hide it better over there.
• 29:10
  Know, such as semiconductors for planes that might be spraying running around spraying us all the time, you know, little things like that. But as far as Tainan Airport is concerned, it's complicated, but I'll try to simplify it. Tainan Airport was the home of the CIA's proprietary aircraft. This was known as Air America, commonly known as Air America. It has roots going back to the Flying Tigers.
• 29:36
  I outline all this in my book. Actually, not all of it. If you really wanna get all of it, you gotta watch the rumble video on my channel, the abstract. It's called the Tainan Airport, home of the of the dedicated chemtrail fleet question mark. And but okay.
• 29:53
  So yeah, there's there's Air America and this at the height of their power in about 1973, right before they were dissolved by an act of Congress resulting from the church committee hearings, they had more aircraft collectively, see, because this was a collective of airlines. Air America was a whole bunch of different airlines put together. It was just known as Air America. And collectively, all of these airlines were bigger than than any airline in the world in 1973. So this was this was Interesting.
• 30:22
  A big
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Well, even looking at Wikipedia, which I I don't trust everything on there, sometimes it's actually useful for stuff like this. It says that air so Air America was an American passenger and cargo airline established under a different name in 1946 and covertly owned and operated by the CIA from 1950 to '76, adopting the Air America name in '59. It supplied and supported covert operations in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War, including allegedly who were providing support for drug smuggling in Laos. Its slogan was anything, anywhere, anytime professionally. Interesting.
• 31:00
  Yes. This is new to me.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt that they were smuggling opium. No doubt whatsoever. There's been books written. Great books. I got them on my shelf.
• 31:10
  One's just simply called Air America. I forget the guy's name. There's another one called Perilous Missions by a guy who actually flew these planes and things, then and there's other there's other sources. But yeah. So there was this, you know, this huge conglomerate of airlines collectively known as Air America.
• 31:28
  Their home, they operated in Asia And and they're primarily. Yeah. Primarily. No. They they operate actually all over the world, but their their their primary area of operation was Southeast Asia.
• 31:40
  That's where they started with something called CAT, civil air transport, and and the guy from the Flying Tigers, Chenault, and all this, and it goes into the China lobby and all this, you know, the China lobby has been like Taiwan's lobby in Congress. But anyway, the airlines were broken up as a result of the Church Committee hearings in 1974. And then what basically what the CIA did, they played a little shell game as they usually do. And they it looks like what they did was they funneled all of the the airlines of of Air America into something called Evergreen Aviation, which you may have heard of if you're into this subject. And Evergreen Aviation's specialty was, guess what, spraying things out of planes, oddly enough.
• 32:33
  So I think they used Evergreen Aviation to try to basically transform this this Air America into today's chemtrail fleet. And I provide evidence to that fact in my book. But okay, know this, see this is what I said, this is a complicated story. But okay, there was at Tainan Airport, that was their home. Air America was established there, and there was a certain airline of Air America called Air Asia, and that was it was specifically their home.
• 33:09
  They had Air Asia had these maintenance facilities on Tainan Airport. Okay? These were world class maintenance facilities where they could actually make planes from scratch if they need to. It was it was that big. And it was and this is all well very well documented stuff.
• 33:25
  And as a result of the church committee hearings, the CIA was forced to sell those world class aircraft maintenance facilities. But guess what? They sold it to one of their shell companies called E Systems. Okay? So here's a c a CIA cutout called E Systems, all documented in my book, running one of the world's biggest aircraft maintenance facilities at Tainan Airport.
• 33:54
  And E Systems was the first builder of HARP, the High Frequency Aquarial Research Project.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: It's you can't make this stuff up. You You all these different coincidences, by the end of it, you're just like, oh my goodness. So
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: there you have probably the two biggest components of this whole system, the aircraft and the electromagnetic energy from an ionospheric heater, and we can talk about HARP, the High Frequency Active Aural Research Project in Alaska if you like, But you have the two main most highly technical aspects of this project in one company, E Systems. And so and then also in between Alaska and Taiwan, have the Pacific Ocean. So you could fly planes out there in the Pacific Ocean, have them spray things, hit it with the electromagnetic energy, do all your experiments to get all your stuff right. No one would ever bother you.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: So this okay. So okay. So I I had one question earlier, which I'll get back to when it makes sense, because I don't wanna lose this thread with you. But before, when you mentioned the experiment of running the electrical wire, right, the bare wire, and then using that to charge the atmosphere, and and and kind of then use that electrical charge to manipulate particulate matter within the atmosphere. I was thinking HARP.
• 35:13
  I was thinking, this must have been some sort of predecessor to some of the HARP technology. And this is what it's like when you get into geoengineering, there's multiple levels of it. Right? One is just, okay, dumping chemicals on us. Okay?
• 35:26
  So can you know, filling up the soil, the rainwater with aluminum and barium and strontium. So that's one aspect of it. But then and you can also say, okay, from the weather control perspective, they can take a sunny day and make it a cloudy day. That cloudy day can then, you know, bring in storm systems and, you know, it through some more kind of fundamental changes like that. But then you get into the are they it's kind of the idea of them spraying certain particulate matter that reacts to electromagnetic fields, which then allows them to use something like HARP to manipulate the ionosphere and actually create positive and negative charges, which then can direct the direction, change the direction, heat up, cool down, etcetera, of all these particles.
• 36:17
  And so that's kind of as you kinda connect it up, it's like, oh, so it's about putting all this matter, all these particles up into the sky, then allow them to control what's happening in the sky using a system like HARP. Is that pretty accurate in terms of the fundamentals of how this works?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. From the HARP patents, you can see the different ways that one can manipulate the weather with HARP, and there's there's a variety of ways. One of them, the most basic thing is hitting dispersed particles with something called their resonant frequency, which makes them heat up, which would cause a high pressure zone, high pressure zone. But there's also other things that are outlined in the HARP patent such as if you have an atmosphere that's saturated with these small particles, you can hit it with like a wide beam of electromagnetic energy and just move those particles this way or that way. You can move large air masses one way or the other because it's you're connecting, we're resonating with the, I don't know if resonating is the right term because resonant frequency is kind of a different thing, but you can manipulate the atmospheric problems, you can move them around in the atmosphere with electromagnetic energy.
• 37:27
  That's another one, And then see these are things that I forgot to mention in the Tucker interview and I've gone back and reviewed them since. I kind of did that whole thing cold. But anyway, there's there's other things that they can do, like they can bend the ionosphere, they can bend it up or down. If you bend it up, you're creating a low pressure zone, right? Because you're increasing the amount of volume.
• 37:48
  There's a very strong connection between the ionosphere and the weather down here in the troposphere. Has direct things go on the ionosphere have it that which is way high up in the atmosphere have a direct effect upon the weather down here in the troposphere and that's HARP's main area of activity is manipulation of the ionosphere. So you could also make it bow down. That would be another way to create a high pressure zone because you're decreasing the volume of area. You could also focus the sun's rays.
• 38:16
  You can manipulate the ionosphere to turn it into a lens that that focuses the sun's rays down onto a certain point on the face of the earth. So, you know, just from the few things that we know about that can be, you know, that HARP can be used for to manipulate the weather, there's already convincing evidence, and I'm sure they can do a whole lot more.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. So this this all, unfortunately, makes sense. But so one question I did have is you mentioned how in 1996, they started the kind of the mass kinda spraying, you know, operation. And so I I grew up in in rural Ohio.
• 38:55
  I grew up in this little town called Plain City surrounded by farm fields. And I a lot of my childhood was in the the nineties. I was born in the eighties. And I remember growing up, you know, you either had a cloudy day if it was kind of raining or there's a storm coming through. You you know, you had cloudy days, or you had kind of sunny days.
• 39:15
  You or and the sunny days were typically you had a few different kinds of clouds. They taught us, okay, here's a it's a cumulonimbus, whatever you had, clouds you learned in school, and you can look up and say, oh, okay. That's a this kind of it was a cotton ball. That's that that's that's kind of cloud. But and I remember it, you know, I spent a lot of time outside, you know, just even laying on the grass looking up at the sky and looking for, you know, shapes in the sky.
• 39:35
  And I never remember seeing anything like what we see today, right, with the skies today. And so it makes sense that those memories that I had of, say, the summer of, say, '94 or whatever, when was outside playing, that that was still a normal sky. And so what happened in '96? Because it gets it feels like, yeah, it's been it's been a long time since I remember normal skies like that consistently. What happened in '96?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: That's when they crossed the Rubicon. That's when they rolled out the large scale domestic spraying programs. This is all documented in William Thomas's book. It came out in 2004. William Thomas's book was the only book available on the subject when I released my first version of Chemtrails Exposed in 2012 as an ebook.
• 40:23
  There was only two books available in 2012 on this subject, mine and William Thomas's. But anyway, William Thomas's book called Chem yeah. There it is. It's really great. And he did a lot of just good old fashioned legwork journalism.
• 40:36
  He just went around and got people's stories. And their stories were, I was just making coffee one morning, and all of a sudden, there's like 20 planes laying grid patterns in the sky. And I'm like, what the heck is this? Are we being invaded? And they were.
• 40:50
  And then there's also stories about how all these emergency rooms just filled up after these incidents. We have very credible witnesses. I mean, William Thomas has air traffic controllers pointing out things on radar saying, look, they're spraying chemtrails, they come down from Alaska through Canada down over to here. And things like that. I mean, well, you got to read William Thomas's book.
• 41:13
  And I referenced it quite a bit quite a bit in my book. But yeah, I mean, it all started that and you know, due to this preponderance of evidence in William Thomas's book, I think the preponderance of the evidence indicates that it started in 1996. Some people say 1995. But, you know, I find it very strange because there was also this is I might get a little esoteric here, but
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: That's alright. Welcome here.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: In 1895 to 1896, so one hundred years ago, Savantar Hennius first came out with a theory of man made global warming. Exactly one hundred years before the large scale domestic spraying operations began. And as you know, if you follow this subject at all, that's the geoengineers excuse for all this. They say we have to spray things out of planes because global warming is getting really bad. This is gonna reflect sunlight back into space.
• 42:13
  Of course, none of this is true. Global theory of man made global warming is false. And when you spray things out of planes, any type of particulate matter in the atmosphere heats things up. It doesn't cool things down. I mean, like, they got they they give you this thing about, oh, reflects back into space and just we never see it again.
• 42:33
  You know what I mean? Like, just goes away. I mean, what is that? And they have this story about Krakatoa near this volcano that erupted. They always drag out this Krakatoa thing.
• 42:42
  Well, Krakatoa erupted in this time, and in the years after, we saw a decrease in global global temperatures. I mean, like, you think I buy that for a second?
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: It's it's like a greenhouse and say, okay. We're gonna put a greenhouse up, and it's going to reflect the sun away, so the greenhouse is gonna be cooler. Right? But it's actually the opposite happens, you can feel it. Like, can my wife is more sensitive to these things.
• 43:04
  Like, she can tell exactly when they're chemtrailing, like, she has a sense for it, she'll even she'll even say, look, she feels like she's being microwaved. Like, she'll to wear a hat on certain days because if her head is exposed, she feels that heat coming down. So it's kinda it's kinda two kinds of heat. One is the kind of heat that it feels like it's being magnified. So even if it's 70 degrees outside, the heat feels like it's 85, like it's cooking something.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's that.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: But there's also the feeling of just the heat that is coming from this greenhouse effect of Mhmm. The sun's heat is coming in, but there's this layer that's trapping it. And so you feel like it's like, the the air that should be fresh even on a warm day, it's it's it's, like, thick. It's like you walk into a greenhouse. It's just it's just thick air.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When they're spraying us. And, you know, people are just when when they spray us on on spray days, I mean, people are just in bad moods. I don't know. Most of them don't know that they're being sprayed or so, you know, but I think that that's what what generates people's bad moods on spray days.
• 44:03
  I mean, you know, you've probably seen the same thing on spray days. Mean, people are just like, bleh, you know what I mean? It's just like they, they don't necessarily know why they're like that. But you know, that's what I experienced on spray days. Because, you know, I know what's going on.
• 44:16
  I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna let them take my joy. You know what I mean? I'm gonna hit them, and I'm gonna hit them hard, and I'm gonna continue to do it. That's how I stay sane. You know what I mean?
• 44:27
  Because what they're doing to us is completely insane. And the only way to fight it is to do stuff like I'm doing, do stuff like you're doing, do stuff like everybody within this movement is doing. And let's get back to and, you know, that that brings us kind of full circle before, you know, because we're getting maybe a little short on time. Let let's get back to the geofight. The geophyte lawsuit and how people can can get involved here.
• 44:50
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• 45:59
  Speaker 2: They have this whistleblower, Justin Mabee, I think we mentioned at the top of the show, and, you know, they Justin Mabee, he's a doctor. He was working for NOAA, the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration. You have to know these acronyms if you wanna talk about this kind of stuff. And he was working for them, and they were destroying and altering and moving around all and making unavailable to scientists the historical weather data. And the complaint by the geophyte for their whistleblower alleges that this was all done to cover up geoengineering, spraying things out of planes.
• 46:37
  Let me read from the geophyte complaint, and it reads
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Which page are you on for this?
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Well, it's let's see page 17. There's a number before it's called 91. Yeah. The number before this section, 91. And he worked for this joint called CIRES, this is the acronym for it, c I r e s.
• 47:03
  I'd have to review what that was. But in this this one sentence in the geophyte complaint on behalf of Justin Mayby, the NOAA whistleblower, it reads, both Siri's supervisory staff and NOAA staff worked together to destroy essential documents found in The United States and United Nations historical weather record to generate a narrative that global warming and climate change are occurring at such a rapid rate that intervention in the earth's weather by the world's governments and private actors by way of geoengineering and weather modification is necessary. So they were by their actions, they were making an argument for, spraying us with stuff.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: It's like so it's it's kinda crazy. I mean, again, this is, you know, the Haglian dialectic, right? Problem, reaction, solution. It's like, okay, so they mess up the weather with geoengineering, they fudge the weather reports to show that the weather's changing in a bad way, and then they say the solution to this is geoengineering. Mhmm.
• 48:15
  It's Problem like
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: reaction solution. And there's also a lot of this stuff about breaking something and then making someone else pay for it. I think what's going on here is that they're deliberately wrecking the natural world in order to usher in their synthetic world, their biohacked world, their bioengineered world. We're gonna need this stuff if our environment is so contaminated and so wrecked by all this spraying. You know, we're gonna need their products just to survive.
• 48:44
  So who's set to benefit from that? Tech? Biotech? A lot of people don't know, you know, Silicon Valley is not only the home of tech, it's also the home of biotech. The, you know, this whole this area, San Francisco Peninsula is home to Genentech, always has been, as well as a whole bunch of other large bioengineering firms and all, you know, there's all kinds of sort, little technology firms doing all kinds of nasty stuff.
• 49:10
  I mean, some of it's good, know, but I mean, if they're involved in the spring stuff, and then it's nasty. But yeah, so I think we're bringing things pretty full circle here. And you know, this is why I say big tech is the head of the snake. They're set to benefit very much from all this stuff. They have a new synthetic world that they have to sell to you.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Which they have to destroy this one first, right?
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: So I wanna pull up a
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Creating demand.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: The Geophyte website. Because this is, like I mentioned, I'll be having Tom Rinz on soon to talk about this. But in terms of, you know, I never like to have these kinds of discussion, these discussions, and let's leave people in a state of just feeling hopeless, right? And leave people in a state of inaction.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's not hopeless at all. There's the geo fight, then we got the state bills. There's three federal bills now, three. I'm not sure if, MTG's bill is even active anymore, but there's been two more since her. And I have that information too, but we're running low short on time.
• 50:10
  If you wanna get involved okay. This this is where we tell the audience how they can get involved. You go to thegeophyte.com. You get involved with them, and they also have a Twitter channel where you can stay in constant contact with them. Their name on Twitter is thegeophytecom.
• 50:28
  Thegeophytecom. It's another hidden account. Like, you start typing that in, it doesn't pop up as a suggestion. You have to pop it all type it all in there to get it, because there's because X is censoring this. So you you and then, you know, they're affiliated with this other group that I'm affiliated with on X called Reclaiming Our Skies.
• 50:46
  Reclaim Our Skies. Excuse me. That's a a Twitter group. And there's a lot of good people on there working on these state bills. They're directly involved in in the state and federal bills.
• 50:57
  You know, it's a whole another topic of discussion. But, know, the state bills lead to the federal bills. This is how we know what to put in the federal bills. This is why people, you know, people there's a lot of people saying like, well, the state bills are scams. This is just politicians trying to capitalize off this.
• 51:11
  Really? I mean, how how do we know what to put in the federal bill? We're just going to create the federal bill out out of thin air? We need to know what the states are saying in order to know what to put in the federal bill. And so the federal bill is the thing that can actually take planes out of the sky.
• 51:27
  You know, states can't ground planes, the feds can. So there's three federal bills now. And you can get involved with those as well. There's one website called americansforacleanatmosphere.com that keeps track of all this stuff. And then there's another thing going on.
• 51:42
  I think I mentioned it. Yeah, Reclaim Our Skies Group on X. But between those those groups, the geophyte, americans4cleanatmosphere.com, and reclaim our skies on X, you can get involved, and you can have an effect, and you can you can start pushing these these state and federal bills. Yeah, see they're keeping track on that website of all the state bills as well as the federal bills. So that's my reference when I want to know what's going on with that kind of stuff.
• 52:07
  So there's plenty that that one can do. But you know what I really want people to do? And guess what? Buy my book.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Skyhorse Skyhorse Publishing. This is when, you know, they're the hottest publisher in the world. And Tony and I are forming a great relationship. Tony Lyons is the guy who runs Skyhorse. And he's given me a dedicated agent who got me on this show, and I'm going to be continuing to do shows apparently.
• 52:34
  This agent's been getting me like a show a week since she's been on the job for about a month now. So and, you know, another thing is that I'm not going to get paid by Skyhorse until like near the end of the year, and I'm flat broke. I can really use donations. You can go to my website, peterakirby.com. You can donate through Venmo, PayPal, or crypto, I accept XRP.
• 52:57
  But, yeah, that's that's pretty much it.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: So here's your your website there, peterakirby.com. Yeah. And, so, Corey, people can support you there. And this is the this is honestly this is what's the most important, right? Because I think that fundamentally, I look at everything that's happening in this world is a reflection of all the souls in the world.
• 53:19
  Right? That's just like it's it's that's that's why Satan has tried to corrupt all these souls to turn the souls evil, which then can turn the earth evil, which then gives him the ability to reign, you know, with with no limits. But I think that the key with all of this, it's more more important than bills, more more than everything, is to get more people to understand these issues. And that's why I'm doing my show. That's why, as we're talking about in the very beginning of the show, it's such a heavily censored topic, right?
• 53:47
  Because they don't want more people knowing about this. And so but, you know, for me, to be able to have these shows that can educate people, I rely on people like you that put in the hard work to research, to write the books, to become experts on this, so that we can have this conversation, which makes it really easy because let's just say that someone wants to get their their local community more involved in this. You can't go out and buy a 100 books and mail them to everybody. Most people, you know, probably wouldn't read them. Right?
• 54:14
  Because it's like most of the they don't read books in general. People buy them as a collecting item. Right? But this, you know, an hour long conversation about these issues, this is a great way to take somebody and really catch up to speed and help them understand what's happening. I think that's the real that is the tipping point, is when enough people in America, and really around the world, but enough people here in America specifically, when enough of the the general public understands this, and they say that I will not just sit and allow this to happen, that's what then creates the the action.
• 54:48
  But if enough but if most people just ignore it, because they don't they don't see the information, because it's censored on YouTube, if they look at it, they turn away, because they just, you know, they're just too focused on the football game or whatever, that's what's gonna cause us to lose. But I think that the real thing is just to keep the momentum up of getting more people educated about these issues. And that's why I'm really thankful for the sacrifices that you've made to get your book together, do everything that you're doing. Also even giving giving me your time today to talk about this because we need to get this information to more people.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This book is here to unite the people in common knowledge. This has been my goal from the beginning. I didn't start in this looking to sell books. But I started in it just because it was completely unacceptable to me and there was just no alternative except to fight it.
• 55:38
  But, you know, over time I've learned how this game is played. And it's it's, you know, I'm talking the media game. And the game, I it's a game to me of, know, getting people to understand what's going on here. I call it truth media. You know?
• 55:57
  And and I I think that people should be compensated for their good works in truth media. And I think this is this talk about how, oh, he's just trying to sell a book. It's just complete nonsense. Was Rachel Carson just trying to sell a book? You know, she's the woman who wrote Silent Spring in 1962, which still sells to this day.
• 56:16
  Was she bad for all the royalties that she got for writing that book? I mean, do you know how asinine this argument is? This is how you do it. You incentivize the process. See, because people right now, it's just like you try getting into the new media, you're just gonna get crushed.
• 56:30
  I guarantee you you're gonna get crushed. You know what I mean? You could come at this thing, well, know, you'd have to come at this thing with millions of dollars is the deal. You're gonna come at this thing with nothing. If you don't have knowledge, if you don't have anything unique to bring to the table, you're gonna get crushed.
• 56:44
  I don't like that. I don't like that dynamic. You know, I mean, I want I want to help create and inspire people to a new way of doing things in media. I think that the truth media will prevail. And I think that when people see other people being successful, and, you know, becoming comfortable making enough money so that they can be comfortable telling the truth about, you know, things that are hidden, great truths that need to be known by society, I think they should be compensated for their works.
• 57:17
  I think they should be incentivized. I think that people should say, hey, I want a piece of that. You know what I mean? I want to go out and and, you know, damn all the the bad reaction I'm gonna get. I'm gonna tell the truth at the top of my voice, and I'm gonna get paid for it.
• 57:32
  I think that that's a healthy thing. You know what I mean? I think that people should be compensated for their work. And anybody who's pushing this narrative about, oh, he's just trying to sell a book, is just completely full of crap. Because I'm, I mean, I'm, it's a lot, there's a lot more here than just trying to sell a book.
• 57:49
  That's part of it. That's part of it. There's a lot more here. I mean, you see the passion that I have, right? You can't just buy that.
• 57:56
  You can't just manufacture that. It's something that comes from my soul. I mean, every day I'm just burning for this stuff. You know what I mean? Like, I'm doing stuff every single day.
• 58:06
  And I, you know, it was I just I just need to, you know, get my message out. That's what I'm all about right now. Because I know I have the story, and I know big Tech doesn't want it coming out. And they're doing everything they can to squash it. So I'm kind of a reaction to them trying to smother me in my sleep.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's it. And that's the thing is that is going back to Solzhenitsyn, right? If, if, if even if people would have stood at the door with fire pokers, right, they could have fended off what was happening, but people just sat by. And so that's saying, I'm getting my, my fire poker, right?
• 58:38
  Whatever I can find, you know, and I mean, these days, this is the weapon. Right? This right this microphone right here, the book that you've written, it's it's information. Right? That that is the that is the battlefield.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: The pen is mightier than the sword.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, it is. So thank you, Peter, for doing what you're doing. Thank you for being, you know, next to me on the battlefield. And I think that there's with enough I I think it's happening.
• 59:02
  There's enough momentum happening. It's coming. I do think we're we're reaching a tipping point with this. We just have to we can't let out, though. We still have to keep pushing and pushing and pushing.
• 59:10
  And so thank you for for being in this fight. And I encourage anyone who's watching or listening, buy your book, check out your website, support you through your website, go to the, thegeofight.com, support what they're doing, you know, kind of pull your money out of the political campaigns you've been funding, right, and put it into things that are, that are real citizen driven ways of trying to save the country.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Well, Peter, man, thank you so much, take care, and God bless you.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Seth, thanks for having me.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you.