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The Sarah Kellen Congressional Transcript (Part 5) (6/14/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
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  Sarah Kellen's conversation with Congress mister Biggs. Thank you, and again,
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  thank you for your courage speaking up here with us today.
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  We appreciate it very much. I hope you don't mind
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  that I'm going to revisit the discussion we had with
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  regard to redacted. I believe redacted, and I just want
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  to confirm in my mind to understand if that's okay.
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  And I'm not trying to step outside the bounds that
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  we've set. But here we go. So if I understand right,
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  redacted is the one who arranged your trip to Epstein's
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  Island to pursue the job as an assistant. Kellen, correct, Biggs,
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  and she also accompanied you to the island. Kellen, Yes, Biggs,
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  and she was your roommate for several days on the island. Kellen, yes, Biggs,
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  you were offered the job. I understand during your visit
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  to the island, Kellen, not that trip, Biggs, okay, Kellen.
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  I traveled with them for about a week. We were
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  on the island for about thirty three days, and then
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  Palm Beach for a few days, and then New York
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  for a few days, and then I flew back to Hawaii.
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  It was September tenth, two thousand and one, so I
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  remember it like it was the day before September eleventh.
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  I was thinking like I had just been in New
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  York the day before, and I flew back to Hawaii,
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  went back to my job at the hotel restaurant, and
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  then probably like three weeks or a month later, Glane
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  called me and asked if I could fly to Palm
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  Beach that day to start training to work Biggs. All right,
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  and did redacted? Did she ever end up working for
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  Epstein or Maxwell? Kellen? No, not that I'm aware of Biggs.
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  And to your knowledge, did she ever? Well, I'll just
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  leave it there. I appreciate the answers. Timmins, thank you.
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  I want to ask some questions about the non prosecution agreement.
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  You're specifically mentioned in it. Were you represented by an
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  attorney in that process? Kellen, No, Timmins. When did you
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  find out that your name was included in the non
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  prosecution agreement? Kellen? When it was publicly released Timmins, around
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  what time? Around what year? Kellen? I think it was
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  probably like a year or two after it was executed
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  when I think there was like a fight, a legal
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  fight about undoing it or something, and it had been
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  or not been a secret anymore and it was released
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  to the public. Mister Timmins, you've met Darren Endyck Kellen. Yes, Timmins.
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  When did you first meet him Kellen? Beginning of my
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  employment in two thousand and two? Timmins? How regular was
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  your interaction with him? Kellen? Not super regular. We worked
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  out of the main office on Madison Avenue in New York,
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  and then eventually they moved offices to three oh one
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  East sixty sixth Street, so I didn't go to the
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  main office very often. Mister Timmins, have you met Richard
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  Kahn miss Kellen. Yeah, Timmins. When did you meet him Kellen?
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  When he started working? I don't know. He replaced There
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  was a different accountant when I first started working, and
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  he replaced him a few years into my employment. Timmins,
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  How the regular was your interactions with Kahn Kellen? Again,
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  pretty much the same thing. He worked in the Madison
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  Avenue office, so it wasn't super regular Timmins. So again,
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  you were not represented by an attorney when your name
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  was put into a non prosecution agreement by the Department
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  of Justice. Kellen, correct, I was never questioned by any
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  law enforcement, didn't have an attorney, Timmins, you said that earlier.
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  Have you ever been questioned by law enforcement? Kellen, Not
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  until twenty nineteen, for the first time ever, Timmins, You
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  were not questioned by any law enforcement before twenty nineteen, Kellen,
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  not a single not a single law enforcement ever until
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  twenty nineteen, for the very first time, Timmins. Were you
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  aware that Epstein was considering pleading to something in an
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  effort to wipe away all the crimes he had committed
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  as of two thousand and seven, were you aware that
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  he was being investigated? Were you aware that there was
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  a legal issue Kellen, Yeah, Timmins, and you had no
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  knowledge that you were associated with his non prosecution agreement Kellen, No, Timmins.
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  Has Richard Dyke ever represented you in any capacity? Kellen,
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  Darrenan Dyke, Timmins, sorry, Darrenan Dyke, Kellen, not officially, but
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  he was, Timmins. Did he create your LLC Kellen, He did, yes, Timmins,
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  So he did represent you. Has Richard Kahn ever done
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  any work for you? Has he prepared your taxes? Kellen?
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  I don't know. I did my own taxes in the beginning, Timmins.
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  Did you ever submit any documents to CON's firm for
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  the purpose a review? Kellen? So, I don't know if
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  Kahn how much he was involved, but it was another
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  account and redacted who took like managed all the banking
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  for SLK Designs and all the associations. Timmins. And you
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  were one of the plaintiffs that sued the estate. Kellen, Yeah, Timmins.
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  Did in Dyke ever provide you any legal advice prior
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  to outside the LLC? Has he ever provided you with
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  legal advice? Kellen? He was kind of like the liaison
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  for hiring a attorneys for me in some of the
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  civil cases. He basically was like, these are your attorneys,
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  connecting me with them. He was the one who up
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  scheduled the dates for my deposition. He's the one who
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  would give me documents to sign, not my ex attorneys
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  who were supposedly my attorneys. He was going to do it. Timmins. So,
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  did you ever sign a representation agreement with Darren Endyck Kellen, No,
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  I remember he told me one time, I think I
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  don't know how I was subpoena for a deposition and
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  he told me to get my own attorney and that
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  Jeffrey would pay for it. And then Jeffrey was upset
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  with how much it costs and he didn't want to
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  pay the fees. So then he sent Darren and I
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  an email that said, you know, can somebody tell me
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  we have this goofball lawyer involved at all? And Darren replied,
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  it was my understanding that Brian required Sarah to have
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  her own counsel, but I never understood why she needed
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  her own attorney, like, of course, we can get rid
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  of them. And so then they didn't pay his fees,
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  and I couldn't afford to pay his fees, and then
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  Darren arranged for me to have the same attorney as
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  Jeffrey Timmins. I'm out of time, but I'm going to
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  have some follow ups. Thank you, Miss Brignac, Thank you,
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  Miss Kellen. That will conclude the Majority's first hour of questioning.
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  We'll go off the record, mister redacted, we are on
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  the record. I understand that one or more members has
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  joined us, if they could please identify themselves for the record.
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  Bobert Lauren Bobert question by mister redacted. Good morning, Miss Kellen.
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  Kellen answer, Good morning. Question. My name is redacted, and
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  I'm going to be doing most of the questions today
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  for the minority. As we proceed, I'm going to cover
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  some of the topics that the Majority is covered with
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  you in the previous round. I'm going to do that
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  not to make you repeat yourself, but just to make
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  sure that we have a clearer record as is possible
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  before I proceed. I'll note that it's possible that some
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  of my questions today may call for answers that identify
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  actual or potential survivors of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell,
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  or information from which those survivors might be identified. To
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  the extent that my answers to any of those questions
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  do contain such names or information, I'd ask on behalf
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  of the Minority that, prior to any public release of
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  the transcript of the preceding the Majority ensure that the
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  names of any such survivors, as well as information from
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  which they could be identified, are fully redacted. And with that,
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  Miss Kellen, you spoke during the previous hour about certain
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  tasks that Jeffrey asked you to perform. I think it
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  would be helpful if you would just get a fuller
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  sense of the scope of your job duties when you
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  were working for him and Glene Maxwell. Could you expound
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  on those a bit answer. So it was a lot
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  of sourcing things for all the houses. I would have
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  to go by. He would say, I want new tea
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  sets for Palm Beach, so then I would have to
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  be like as many examples as I could to show
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  it to him and get his approval and then go
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  by it. I had to put music on his MP
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  three player I would have. Even though he had a
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  private chef most of the time, he still had me
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  make food for him. He liked the way I made
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  his peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or his tomato muzzarella sandwiches.
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  There were different projects that Gland would give me. They
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  would have had binders full of the furniture in all
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  of the houses that listed like where they were from,
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  how much they cost, and where they were located. They
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  were constantly moving things around, so I had to update those.
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  A lot of interior design work because he was always
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  changing houses, so I'd have to go look for fabric samples,
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  source furniture, have things made. He liked to personalize all
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  of his own, like sweatpants with embroidery and American flag
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  on it, so I had to source those and have
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  them embroidered. It was always something different, like he always
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  had different tasks recovering his Jim furniture in a special
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  leather like. It was very It wasn't normal normal things.
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  It was very over the top and that, like you know,
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  weren't normal things for people to ask for. It was
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  just and each day was different depending on his whim
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  and kind of what he required. Question, it's my understanding
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  that part of your responsibility included digitizing photographs, is that right,
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  Miss Ham? Can you speak up a tiny bit for
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  those in the back redacted? Sorry, go ahead, Miss Kellen, Yes, redacted.
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  I have just been advised that another member has joined us,
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  and if that member could identify themselves redacted, he just
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  stepped out redacted. Sorry. Question returning to the subject to
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  digitizing photographs, Kellen, Yeah, that was a project that Glaine
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  took on the first few years of my employment. Question,
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  what did those photographs contain, Miss Ham, to the extent
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  their photographs of yourself? You can talk about it to
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  the extent their photographs of objects in the house or
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  the property, the designs. That's fine. It was all of
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  their old photographs that Galainnad took film, Jeffrey's baby photos. Basically,
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  any photos that they had, they would scan in and
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  burn them to a disc and digitize them. Redacted. Were
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  any of those photos actually explicit? Ham You can answer
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  if that's true for you, Kellen, some of them contain
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  nude photos of myself redacted. Question. In terms of the
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  work that you did for Epstein and Maxwell, you spoke
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  during the previous round about being based in New York
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  for a period of time and in Palm Beach for
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  a period of time. Am I correct about that answer?
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  When you say based there? She gets cut off. Question
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  you perform your work in those locations, Kellen, I have
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  traveled with them everywhere, so I would have traveled to
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  all the homes with them. Question, just so we have
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  a complete list beyond New York and Palm Beach, what
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  other homes did you spend time at? Answer? New York,
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  Palm Beach, the Island, the Ranch, Paris, and London. I
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  think that was all all of them. Question. That's helpful.
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  Thank you did your job. Duties vary from property to
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  property depending on where you were at any given time,
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  or were they pretty much consistent regardless of the location. Answer.
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  It depended on if he was working on projects at
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  a particular property the island, he was always renovating, building
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  new things, meeting with landscapers or interior designers, architects, so
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  that would have been very much geared toward design at
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  that property. New York was more running errands because that's
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  almost you could access most of the things, buying things
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  for the houses, and we would collect everything in this
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  house that would just sit and wait for the next
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  trip to the next house, and then I'd have to
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  organize it, like load the plane up with everything to
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  take care of. Question. I'd like to ask you some
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  questions about conversations you had with Jeffrey Epstein. Did he
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  ever tell you at any point about his relationship with
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  other women? Answer not really. Question did he ever talk
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  to you of out his sexual activity with other women?
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  Answer no? Question Did he ever tell you what kind
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  of women were his type? Answer? I knew he was racist.
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  Question was that based on the comments you heard or
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  conversations you had with him? Answer comments he would make
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  question are you able to be specific about that? Answer?
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  He would always belittle. I feel bad even saying it
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  because it's demeaning question, it's his words. Answer he would
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  use the word, I believe schwatza, which means black people.
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  That's like a Jewish slang word for a black folk.
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  Question in terms of his type during the period of
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  time when you worked for him, did you have any
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  understanding that he had a type? Answer? I mean he
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  had a bunch of models around him at all times.
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  Question and were you the sort of characteristics you observed
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  I mean physical appearance? Age? Answer beautiful? Question young, I
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  mean I was twenty two. Question where any of them
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  to your observation miners under the age of eighteen? Miss Ham,
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  she's not going to talk about, you know, getting into
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  specific victims, and I think that would get into specific victims,
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  So she's not going to talk about that today. I'm sorry,
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  she's not going to speak about you know, it's a
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  transcribed interview, it's voluntary, and we'd like to limit her
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  questions to her own victimization. She gets cut off by
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  the person doing the questioning. Understood, And just to be clear,
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  I phrased the question in general terms. I wasn't really
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  addressing specific victims. Ham. I think it's easier for our
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  purposes when we're trying to make that distinction, to stop
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  questioning on those types of topics. Question did Epstein ever
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  tell you that he liked younger women? Answer no, not
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  specifically in those words. Question did he ever tell you
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  that he liked teenage girls? Answer no, Ham, we really
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  have to be careful here in terms of she can
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  speak of her own experience with them, but she cannot
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  speak to the victimization of other people. See. I don't
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  like all of that, and I feel like she's hiding things.
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  Question Well, again, I understand the distinction you're drawing. I'm
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  carefully addressing my questions to Epstein's words and actions rather
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  than the experience of his victims. Question Again, this goes
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  to the issue of type in your observation. How many
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  of the women that Epstein associated with were foreign? Answer?
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  It was a mix. Yeah, there was foreign and American
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  women around them. Question were they Eastern European specifically? Answer sometimes?
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  Question do you have an understanding as to why there
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  was a presence of Eastern European women in particular? Answer?
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  I didn't really think about it. All right, folks, we're
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  gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode,
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  we're going to pick up where we left off. All
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  the information that goes with this episode can be found
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