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Things that you kind of take for granted and if they're going for
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more of that realistic feel, these things seem like
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self-evident to me. Well, we are getting lamps.
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Oh. So all right, that requires all.
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Right. Yeah, take it away with lamps
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only open. thing is though, now that you say that, I can't see
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it. You're absolutely right.
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Let's let's talk about that first, because I was going to go
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in a totally. Different direction.
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You can make as much money as you need and work your way
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towards any ship in the game. They they were trying to cash in
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off of that nostalgia and that hype.
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So who was Rick Moranis character in Ghostbusters the
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original 1984? Oh goodness, what was the what
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was the his name? Yeah, What was his name?
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Was he the scientist? Was he like a ghost scientist or
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something? I don't actually I I got the
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name here but I can't remember like what his character did,
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like who his character was. It was Rick Mcgosty, Man
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Moranis. Louis Tully.
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Louis Tully. Oh, OK.
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Who was that originally written for?
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That's that's a fun trivia question.
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Who was Mick? Rick Moranis, His role in the
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original Ghostbusters, originally written for Yeah.
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This could be anyone honestly, but it's a great.
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Carlin. Nope.
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Oh, what the guys like hey everybody, we're swimming naked
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or whatever you feel from Caddyshack.
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Hey, you're. Actually, not far off.
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Another Canadian comedian, Ryan Reynolds.
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Kind of heavyset. Oh, not Ryan Reynolds.
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Seth Rogen. No, but this is way before Seth
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Rogen's time. Like blasting.
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Rain. I don't know.
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He was Co star in Planes, Trains and Automobiles.
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Oh, the big dude. I don't know his name.
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OK, he was also barf in Spaceballs.
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Yeah, I don't. I don't know his name.
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I know who it is. John Candy.
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John Candy. Rest in peace.
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Rest in peace, John Candy. If only you could live to see
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today when there's fire officially in Star Citizen.
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He'd love it. Welcome Ghost of John Candy to
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open Comms Radio, your Star Citizen call in show and today
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we have a good one for you because my Co host today is
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Cosmic Kobo. Hey, it's me.
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Cosmic, you've been playing PTUI?
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Got it running right now. You got it running right now and
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you're about to blow up an Idris, I believe.
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Yeah, it's mostly dead. I think Caddo oil is trying to
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get away with it, but I blew up most of the components.
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What? What did you use to blow up the
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address if I may ask? Well, I first started with a
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Perseus and the size 8 guns just tread like they do massive
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amounts of penetration and damage to components and that's
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a big deal now. And now I'm sitting in the
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Vanguard Harbinger that I have in my hanger for some reason I
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don't own one, don't know, but using that and it's got
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Ballistics. Ballistics are back, baby.
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That may be huge. Cannons, like ballistic cannons
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in particular, big deal. Even laser cannons are going to
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be big, big again. It's just really, yeah, it's,
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it's the way they hit harder, especially on bigger ships,
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you're going to want to use cannons.
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And they change the projectile speeds to make them faster too,
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so it's really cool. But yeah, So what if I'm?
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What if I'm using attritions and I'm firing on like a fighter or
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something or my attrition still going to work against like a
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Hornet versus Hornet? Probably I I haven't, I haven't
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sat. I was talking, we were talking
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to Autumn earlier and we all like everyone was going through
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the different stats and all that.
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And it sounds like at least from her analysis, that's cannons are
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back, even laser cannons, not just the list.
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Oh well, Ballistics are awesome now.
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Like they're they're great again.
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Ballistics are great again, finally.
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Oh jumped away. Well done.
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Yeah, well done, Chris Roberts. But that's not the only news
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from the PTU. There's some a little more
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interesting. And I asked you what should this
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week's question be? And you said?
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I wanted to talk about engineering.
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So engineering does he work for game changer?
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I, I I I clearly already have a bias to this question because
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I'm saying the latter. It's a game changer.
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Oh well. Former would be the first and
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ladder would be the the later one.
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So why is it a game changer there?
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A cosmic hobo. Well probably the biggest thing
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is regarding multi cruise ships and everyone knew they were
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going to want you to have more crew for your multi crew.
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Fire extinguishers. Fire extinguishers like that,
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they are your engineers. Engineers are going to be in
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high demand the next few months because these people need to
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learn the layout of ships, where components are, where fire
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extinguishers are, where the engineering terminals are, and
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how to operate said engineering terminals.
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They're not too hard to read. I I will say that the tech
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preview that I tried earlier on the engineering terminal made no
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sense. It was just a barrage of
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information like it was, it was confusing it, it had no
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explanation and it was pretty bad.
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But it's gotten a lot better. It makes a lot more sense now.
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Is it like, is it quick 'cause I feel like all those terminals
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and stuff, they're kind of like finicky.
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And my concern with engineering was like, oh man, you gotta like
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run, run and do this thing on the terminal, but like you snap
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out of it or something for, you know, whatever.
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Like like the ship shakes and your character like gets pulled
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away from the terminal and stuff.
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I don't know. It's a lot better because the
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main screen that it takes to you takes you to.
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Is a useful, important screen, and you don't have to
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necessarily click into that to get at least a quick idea 'cause
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there's a notification center in the top right, like little bell,
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like hit that bell and subscribe.
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Oh, hey, yeah, get that call to action in there.
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Yeah, by the way, little, little digression here.
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I want to apologize to everybody the all the videos posted twice
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because I finally connected YouTube with the RSS feed and
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then it reposted everything twice so.
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Apology accepted. I'm speaking on behalf of our
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followers. Yeah.
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Yeah, thank you. That's it.
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So anyway, you're you're back on the ship, you're at the console.
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It's easy. It's easy to navigate.
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Yeah, it's easy to navigate and if you don't want to dig into
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it, there's a notification center you can take a quick kind
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of glance at. It'll have like a 1-2 or three
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for any of the warnings, like how many warnings you have.
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So it's like right now if something's OK, it says fixed,
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which is kind of weird because that implies you fixed it and
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not like normal, but whatever. It's TTU 3rd wave by the way,
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we're up to wave 3. We're just tonight they.
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Open up. Wow.
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Yeah, Yep, that was this patch. That's fast.
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I feel like they they just when did.
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When was wave 1A? Couple days ago Monday.
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Yeah, Monday. I think Monday, yeah.
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Oh, that's crazy. OK, well.
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I don't think that's evidence that they're kicking this out
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the door so fast. I, I, I think they just want
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more data because I think we've all discussed many times that
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evo is not enough. It's and wave 1 is decent but
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they need more. Right.
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Yeah, OK, that makes sense. Butts in seats.
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Mm. Hmm.
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Yeah. So well, Speaking of is is it
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working the butts in seats? Do you feel?
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Like it's stable. It's I think so they're
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defaulting to Vulcan now and that has its.
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Own. Yeah, I saw this, Yeah.
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Issues like my frames are just freaking awful around the
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Perseus. Like the Polaris was always kind
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of bad, but right now the Perseus just hurts to try and
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move around in. Like one of those video clips I
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sent you. I I didn't watch it beforehand
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before I sent you it. And then I watched him like,
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wow, I'm getting like a frame a second there because it's bad.
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Yeah. Well, that's part for the
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course. It's kind of what you expect.
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Yeah, and The thing is when it does work, when I am getting
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normal numbers of frames, it's like a whole another game.
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Like it feels so much smoother for some reason.
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Like it's that it feels like you're playing a single player
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game at some points where you don't have that kind of lag you
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get playing Star Citizen. Oh, there's one of the clips
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you've got. All right.
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All right, for those watching right now, this clip, which is
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very cool, was so there's this was on live and there were some
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shitheads camping between Levski and Stanton gateways or Levski
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and Stanton gateway I. Think there's going to be a lot
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of shitheads camping that. Yeah, 'cause there's nowhere to
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go. Like that's that's one of the
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problems, not right now with Knicks is you've got 3 jump
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points unless you grab a mission.
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It's Pyro Gateway, Stanton gateway and Levski.
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Great. OK, that's just asking to get
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camped, and these folks do. I don't mind it, I think it's
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kind of fun. Yeah.
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So we wanted to break this blockade and because, well,
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partially so it was a two kind of two objectives.
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One St. our friend and fellow org member got popped on the way
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from Stanton Gateway to Levski, and we needed to save him
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because he had important stuff on him.
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So we've got together to break the blockade and we dropped out
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kind of far away from the interdictors, and they were just
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sitting there, not moving. So Cadoyo turned his his ship,
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his address with the rail gun attached towards them.
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They still didn't move and he fired one shot and sniped A
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mantis from like, oh, that is like 6 or 7 kilometers away.
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Very, very cool to see 'cause they just didn't move.
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You got to keep moving like, but it was love that.
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The hard way many times. So I guess I haven't learned it.
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His next one is he came in a little fast on the whole with
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you know what I mean? Oh.
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Yeah, at Levsky and we, we bounced.
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Are you survived? Yep, it's the Idris.
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That thing bounces. Really.
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So they they just flew into the whole of Levsky, right up onto
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the wall there? Yeah.
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If you were in an error or something, you just would have
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smashed and. Died.
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Oh yeah, I know the Idris. It bounces.
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Well, pay to win I guess. Pay to bounce.
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I got this one here. I don't know what this is.
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You got a handgun in your hand. Oh yeah, I'm on.
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Fire a lot of smoke. That's my Perseus engineering
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room on fire. And one of the fun facts about
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the Perseus engineering room is it's kind of deep in the back of
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the ship and there's no exits to vent, so it's kind of hard to
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deal with a fire back there. You you really can't see
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anything. Gets you shit and this is.
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Looks really good. This is actually improved from
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like Monday or Tuesday. Wait, what day is it's
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Wednesday? The Monday or Tuesday patch
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where the smoke was even worse and you can see anything at all.
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This is improved. This is This is.
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Improved. So where?
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Where's the fire in here? That's a great question.
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I don't know because it just, it got very fiery, very smoky, and
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then the fire seemed to vanish, but the smoke stuck around.
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So like if we're talking real world physics, it put the fire
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ran out of oxygen, but since we're in space, the heat
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remained. But I'm also currently sitting
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at over 2000°C, which I think is enough to turn me into jello.
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Yeah, you should be boiling. Yeah.
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Your body temperature it says it's 39 point 639.7.
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But I should be dead like the. Yeah.
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How long can a person maintain a temperature of like 39°?
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Or do you just die before that? I don't know.
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Celsius, I imagine you cook your brain enough to like no longer
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function. Well, 39 Celsius actually isn't
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that hot. OK.
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I guess would be a sustained thing.
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Yeah, you can get like 40-40 like outdoor that's like in the
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90s. So that's probably like a little
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hot. Yeah.
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I don't know what the regulated body temperature is in in
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Celsius. There's math there and I don't
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like it. I'll look it up.
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I'll look it up for us. What's, what's going on here?
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You're in a hangar. Oh this is me getting like a
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frame a second but just wait for the surprise in like 10 seconds.
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So average there it is. Who happened?
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Everything exploded. Nothing.
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Literally nothing was happening and then everything exploded.
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When your power plant. This is a great segue into how
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engineering works now. So when your power plant takes
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enough damage and goes critical, you have to fix it before it
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goes critical and you've got a timer on the engineering
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station. I don't know if you see that
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timer on the MF DS of your ship, I don't know, I haven't had
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enough time to really try that. But the timer ticks down and
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when it hits zero it essentially is just self disrupts the ship.
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Wait, hold on, hold on a second. Why is the timer ticking down?
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Because the power plant has gone critical, it takes enough
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damage, that's it. It's overheating and go boom.
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You know, Star Trek, the the warp core is overloading, you
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know, and you have to stop it and prevent that or you do that.
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So it it gets damaged just by like ship fire and stuff when
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people shooting at you. OK.
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And so it overloads, has a timer and then it can explode if you
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don't fix it within that timer. Yep.
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And in order to fix it, you just got to shoot a repair tool at
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it. Yep.
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All right. Although there is a percent
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chance that you can't stop it. How high of a percent?
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No idea there. It did not list that in any of
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the documentation or patch notes.
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All right, all right, well, this week we're talking about
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engineering. We're talking about engineering
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is a busy work. Is it is it game changing?
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We could we covered a lot of ground in this first part, but
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we're going to start bringing out a couple of guests right
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now, a couple of callers. If you did want to call in, you
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call in live on the Discord. You just join the Discord here.
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We will we'll take your call. You can voice your concern or
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share some wisdom. And just a little clarification
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from earlier in the episode, the average normal body temperature
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is 37°C. OK.
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So you're just like a little, you're running a fever, I guess.
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It's not that hot. Yeah.
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So that suit is actually quite impressive if it's 2435°
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outside. But you're only.
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Yeah, this is a good guy, you know, good guy you love who has
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very likely not played the engineering.
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It is wicket. Wicket, Welcome to Open Comms
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RADIO. First question for you today,
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Wicket engineering, busy work or game changing?
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Citizens. Long time listener, occasional
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caller. Welcome, welcome, Wicket,
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welcome back to the show. Welcome.
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So far I'm not part of the PTU, not one of the in in crowd.
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My outsider looking in. Yep.
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Watched a lot of coverage of OF since it's gone to wave 1 and
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the NDA was lifted. Watched a lot of videos.
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Watch Cosmic and Broccoli, Rob and some others doing some stuff
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in 4.5 and testing some of the new features and the engineering
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gameplay and so forth. First thing I have to say is so
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far what I've seen with for one facet of the entire expansion,
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it's super disappointing. And that, of course, is no
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rocket pack. No rocket jet pack, fire
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extinguishers. Some.
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I do have to agree with you that one that is that's that's a
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problem. They need to fix that.
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That's this is a game that prides itself on realism and
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fundamental physics, you know, gravity generators
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notwithstanding and so forth, almost near faster than light
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travel, etcetera, etcetera. And they couldn't get the rocket
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jetpack fire extinguisher correct.
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Unbelievable. It is severely disappointing.
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I think what what's what's also disappointing is no mention of
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it. No, no, no, no, no.
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SCL no one's even talking about this.
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And it's like you want us to believe in in you know, it's
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already when I leave my ship and do these these missions and
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Nicks and there's a ship flying out there in the asteroid.
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The the asteroids aren't moving, OK, And then I come up on the
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ship and I bump into this body. The body doesn't move.
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OK, And then you're going to just cherry on top and give us a
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brand new shiny toy that is a beautiful, exquisite fire
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extinguisher and not allow us to use that to propel us in space.
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Are we playing a space game? I don't know.
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Sometimes I really don't know. Good question.
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Now, having said that and gotten that out of the way, some of the
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engineering stuff, well, I'll say all of the engineering stuff
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looks like it has promise. But with the other changes that
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they've made to the game, what I've seen so far and and I'm
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sure this is just all iterative and this will finally there'll
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be become a happy medium. But currently in its current
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state, I'm very worried. I'm seeing, and this goes to the
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question, busy work or game changer?
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I guess kind of both really. In my mind, I've seen a lot of
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ships taking very few hits and then all of a sudden Catching
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Fire left, right and center, Stuff breaking, stuff turning
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off, the alarm constantly sounding, not shutting down.
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And it seems like the especially in larger ships with interiors,
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everybody's running around trying to figure out what's
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broken. How do I get to it?
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How do I fix it? Seems like the fire can never be
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put out and then it comes back again.
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And this is from a few shots from some innocuous ship.
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You know, obviously everybody was standing still and this is
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just a test, but I'm hopeful that that will get changed
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because it seems like our Gloria Space game that we all have come
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to know and love is turning into running around with my head cut
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off Fireman Simulator. Well, to be fair, that does not
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sound like a bad experience. But and also to be fair, do you
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think that they're just testing like they these things are
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turned up because they want to test the fire, so they want more
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instances of fire happening. So they're just like, just let
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it happen like all the time. Maybe.
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But I would hope that they would have communicated that because,
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excuse me, I would have hoped that they would have
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communicated that and let us know that this is an extreme
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case because they wanted to test systems or whatever.
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But I don't think that was ever communicated, Not from what I've
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seen. It it's on the PTU which implies
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it's a testing universe. So I would assume obviously on
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there is testing. Obviously that's true.
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I mean the PU technically is testing.
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It's alpha that's technically testing.
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That's understood what I'm saying.
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The point I'm trying to make is is if if there if the amount of
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fire and the amount of stuff breaking constantly from hardly
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any like Oh my God, I skinned my knee up.
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We're going to have to amputate that kind of thing.
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I think you're overstating that, but because that's not who's.
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Cutting legs. Off so far.
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Well, I'm, that's, that's an analogy.
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It's like, you know, I, I saw several videos where a guy shot
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a ship and two or three shots of the ship and pop, pop, pop, half
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the ship is broken, everything's on fire and.
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Well, that that, that's probably just that that guy was probably
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flying a Stinger. No.
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That's just what happens when you're in the Stinger.
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You're weak, your wings just pop right off.
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Your ship caught, causes fire. You can't fly it anymore.
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That's a Stinger problem. Any anyway, the the the point
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is, is that if I don't, I mean I haven't seen I, I don't, I
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haven't gone in depth. I mean some of the some of the
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notes I saw on some of the changes there's like 1200
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changes just in weapons. Think I'm not going to read
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through all that? No, no.
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But they were cool and they got lots of new like red dot sights,
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lots of new weapon components, and they did a lot of like
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damage stuff, you know, balancing, that's what you call
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it, a lot of weapon balancing. And I think there's a lot of new
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guns coming in too. I didn't read through the whole
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list, but it was long. My hope is with what I've seen
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so far, the the old analogy that they always like to express them
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by they I mean CIG is dial it back to fun.
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What I've seen so far, that's not my kind of fun.
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Somebody else may love that stuff, but I, I, I, I don't know
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if I would want to be the guy constantly running around
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putting out fires. I mean, in my mind, in my mind,
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in my mind, if if this is if we're going to bring it to more
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of a simulation type thing and more realistic yes, that what
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what happens now with a couple of shots that would happen that
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like after that ship has battled like two or three enemies and
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you know, it's really taking a beating over a multi, you know,
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5-10 minute fight with a bunch of different attackers and you
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know, after it's dispatched them or gotten out of there, this is
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what the ship is left with. Now we got to fix it, you know,
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but or or maybe this is something that happens while
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you're fighting and you got your crew back there taking care of
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business, trying to repair stuff.
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But you know, this is like after it's really taking a beating.
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It's like in the current game when you're super red and you
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have to go and repair or you're not going to be able to make it
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to in your next battle, that kind of thing.
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But you know, I could understand that.
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But it's almost, it's like, it's like almost the amount of damage
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has been dialed up to 100 where, you know.
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How do you say that? Because it's been like the exact
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opposite from my experience. Oh, right now when you were
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shooting that address? Yes, it took a lot of shots.
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Well, I've seen specifically Captain Foxy Loxy, it's another
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YouTube. I saw him doing some testing,
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like fire two or three shots and they went right straight through
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the through the ship. Well, yeah, it depends what
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you're shooting with and shooting at.
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Well, that's just an example. Now you're looking, you're
26:25
talking about shooting the biggest ship in the game, but
26:29
even that. And I was shooting and it took
26:32
forever. I didn't think it took forever.
26:36
I didn't think it took forever. I thought I was watching your
26:38
your video, your your your your stream on you on Discord and
26:43
after a couple of shots stuff was already on fire.
26:46
It seems like the interest did not catch fire ever like it was
26:51
the other. Oh, that was you were in the
26:52
Perseus. That was in the Perseus.
26:54
Oh yeah, the Perseus got fucked by the by.
26:57
So fun fact, the Aries can finally do its job.
27:01
The is the inferno. That's what he hit me with is
27:04
with the Inferno. It's like, so we had a ship
27:06
specifically designed to do that, and it was working as
27:09
intended for the first time ever.
27:12
I'll, I'll leave my final, my final take on this to where it
27:16
actually goes to the PU. I mean, I, I know this is the
27:20
first iteration. Maybe they have dialed it up to,
27:22
to, to gather more data to see how it functions and stuff.
27:27
I just would have liked that to be communicated like, OK, this
27:29
is going to be a little bit extra.
27:31
This is not going to be the final product.
27:33
It's you're going to have extra damage or something.
27:35
That's what it seems like to me. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm overstating
27:38
the fact, but that's just my assumption.
27:40
My from what I've seen, all the videos I've consumed, I haven't
27:43
done anything in in in the PTU myself, but just what I've seen
27:47
online and what my fellow guildies have done and on
27:51
Discord and shared with us. So I might be maybe
27:56
misunderstanding it that that's not the first time that would
27:59
have happened. But my initial take is.
28:03
I hope this gets dialed back a little bit.
28:08
So we get, well, you play a lot of those fantasy MMO games, Wow
28:11
and and stuff. You played those?
28:12
Yeah. Yeah.
28:14
What? What class did you play?
28:16
All of them. No.
28:17
What's your go to though? It just depends what I'm in the
28:22
mood like my initial start off was a druid that was my my first
28:27
thing and he's like a multifaceted role that's not a
28:34
master of any role. They can do almost everything.
28:38
Yeah, I got. I'm clocking you.
28:42
I'm clocking you. Well, Speaking of someone I'm
28:45
clocking. Oh my gosh, I almost didn't.
28:47
I almost brought him up to the wrong space.
28:49
This guy plays a lot. He'll have something to say to
28:52
us about the FPS weapons, about the all the other new FPS stuff
28:57
coming in. But did you play any of that FPS
29:01
stuff? No, I've only done engineering
29:05
with the ship stuff so far. OK, Rob, you want to come on in
29:10
here, you have to accept I'm a little legal disclaimer there.
29:14
I'm going to be honest, I don't know really, really know what it
29:18
says. Brock and Rob, welcome to Open
29:20
Comms Radio, your Star Citizen call in show this week's
29:23
question engineering, Busy work or game changer?
29:29
How's it going y'all? Definitely game changer.
29:33
Sorry about sound. What?
29:34
Do you say? Iffy I yeah the COVID and flu
29:37
shot yesterday and still still recovering from that.
29:42
It is kicking my ass. You did it.
29:46
You doubled up. I did it.
29:48
I doubled up too and I did mine. You never don't.
29:50
You never double up. That was fine.
29:53
Oh my, mostly. Broccoli.
29:56
Rob, I don't know if we can trust your word now, knowing how
30:00
heavily drugged up you are, but you you seem you seem pretty
30:05
excited about this. I'm seeing you text.
30:08
I know you've been doing a lot of the engineering, a lot of the
30:10
running around. Yeah.
30:13
Yeah, yeah. And I think it's it's going to
30:16
be great for the game at large. So you're putting out fires.
30:22
You're you're playing with this console Hobo was mentioned
30:26
before about how the, the the power plant can just get shot
30:29
and and go on the Fritz and you got a timer before you get a
30:32
repair. Are there any other, you know,
30:36
interesting gameplay things with other components that are maybe
30:39
unique here? As far as unique goes, I would
30:45
say, I mean, I think the whole thing is unique.
30:47
I was looking at that that little engineering doc they sent
30:51
out. But it's a little.
30:55
Yeah, yeah, right. Not so little, but I think that
30:58
it it's not going to change how like single seeders kind of like
31:04
basic stuff works, but I do think it's going to bring in a
31:09
level of like weight to fights that we haven't seen before that
31:15
we need to see. Weight, WEIGHT heaviness.
31:22
Yes, yeah. You know, if you get into a big
31:26
fight and you win and you take off, you don't just, you know,
31:30
dust your hands off and be like, all right, cool, on to the next
31:33
one. Like having it mean something is
31:37
important. You mean mean something that you
31:40
got hit, you have you have a hole in your ship, you got a
31:42
patch, that sort of thing? Yeah, that you got into a fight
31:44
with another ship and you came out on top.
31:45
Like you don't, you don't just go get to go to the space
31:48
station and click a few buttons and then you've got a brand new
31:51
ship, like all you know fixed up and ready to go.
31:55
So there needs to be evidence that you got into a huge fight
32:00
and you got away or won. OK, well, right, right now my
32:06
wings keep falling off. That I think that might be user
32:12
error, I'm not sure though. Sounds like a you problem.
32:16
All the time. All the time.
32:18
My my wings are popping off. OK.
32:24
Do you think people are going to be just like really being like,
32:29
I'm going to be an engineer and that's what they're going to be
32:31
doing for like 3 hours? I think so.
32:35
I think if the gameplay is there for it, people will want to take
32:37
it on. Yeah.
32:38
I mean, I'm I'm pretty interested in doing that
32:41
sometimes at least. It feels like you should care
32:46
about your ship now. It's not just a metal box with
32:51
guns on it anymore. It has all manner of systems
32:55
inside that need to be maintained.
32:59
But that's also, it's also the way damage is now done because
33:04
the whole health pool thing into what we've been used to for
33:06
years is gone. OK, not entirely gone, but
33:10
mostly gone. That there is still a hole you
33:12
can cut through and eventually that will make it super easy for
33:16
you to go kablooey. But.
33:19
Is that hole the Shields and the armor?
33:21
No hole. Hole as in hole like it is your
33:23
ship hole? HULL hole?
33:26
Oh, oh, OK. But on top of that, yes, you do
33:29
have armor that is important as well.
33:31
And I don't think we've necessarily grasped how armor
33:36
repair is going to work. I get the sense you're going to
33:39
have to take that back to a, to a pad or station for repair
33:43
because that's finite, But sometime in the future I suppose
33:47
you'll be able to craft like armor plates or something.
33:50
I don't know. That's unclear at this point,
33:53
but that's another factor. It very much follows that old
33:59
RPG formula of health, armor and Shields and Shields being
34:04
rechargeable, armor being finite that needs some sort of a
34:08
consumable or break before you can fix that, and then health
34:14
being health. So if I go to the hangar and
34:18
land my ship, it'll repair my armor and my health right now?
34:22
Yes, from what we can tell. But there's a big asterisk
34:26
there. There's a big asterisk there
34:29
with components. Yes, they will repair the health
34:35
side of components. There's essentially 2 health
34:38
bars now for components. There's your health health bar,
34:42
which is what you would imagine it would be.
34:45
It takes damage, it breaks, you fix it.
34:48
Then there's wear and tear. And this is probably one of the
34:52
more controversial additions we'll say because wear and tear.
35:00
As of right now, without crafting or any of those sorts
35:04
of mechanics, wear and tear is A1 and done thing.
35:08
If your component is worn down entirely, it must be replaced.
35:16
OK. Now there's a lot of questions
35:19
about that, because what about these components that you can't
35:24
replace on ships? Yeah, and what about these
35:27
components that I bought with real money?
35:30
When did you buy components with real money?
35:33
It's good. It's going to happen.
35:35
It OK it did. People forget that the Voyager
35:39
direct story ever existed, But that's OK because most people
35:45
wanted. To but don't don't you get
35:47
special? I remember I had like special
35:48
components, I think the 300 series or whatever.
35:55
I customize it and I had like, I guess I just had guns and stuff.
35:59
Yeah, I don't remember components.
36:01
There were components in some sale I think I remember.
36:05
I remember the customization because my 3:15 is customized,
36:10
but I don't think there were components.
36:13
Off all wood. Well, yes, all wood.
36:17
That's not the ship component components, not not the power
36:21
plant radar cooler. Those components are what I'm
36:25
talking about. OK.
36:27
Are weapons components? No.
36:29
They're weapons. Do weapons have wear and tear?
36:34
I don't actually remember. They do.
36:37
They do. They're components, so if the
36:39
weapons wear and tear runs out. You got to get a new weapon.
36:43
You got to get a new weapon, so I do have weapons that I own in
36:46
my hangar. Yes.
36:48
Yeah. I don't know.
36:52
There's still many questions about insurance and warranty and
36:57
what applies to what that we have yet to see implemented.
37:07
So they're going to have to do insurance like very soon.
37:11
This is like going to have to be figured out.
37:12
I know they gave that like presentation about it, but this
37:14
is going to have to be implemented like very very soon.
37:18
I maybe, I'm not sure I. I can't, I can't imagine for the
37:27
next three months that the game is out, that they're just like,
37:30
Oh yeah, like you can just permanently lose stuff from your
37:33
like your, your hanger. But you're.
37:36
Not spectrum would go nuts. But you're not losing anything
37:42
purchased. I also think like stock stuff
37:48
you should be able to claim as insurance, but I think that like
37:53
XL ones, the ones that we, you know, manufacture, I think that
37:58
should go away because I think that will go into you caring
38:03
about your ship more. Because if I can just throw away
38:05
my Coursera with the XL1 on it every time I, you know, don't
38:11
feel like using it, then I don't care about that ship.
38:17
Well, I think that they that as as engineering and wear and tear
38:21
and all the stuff gets developed initially.
38:24
I can foresee that, that, you know, this comes through 4.5 and
38:27
we we get the engineering and we get wear and tear.
38:31
We don't really have any way of combating wear and tear.
38:34
There's no crafting, there's no, you know, there may be, there's
38:36
no individual way of us fixing wear and tear on an individual
38:42
basis. And they just leave the magic
38:44
repair button in until that system comes online, you know,
38:48
as a stop gap. I could, I can, I can live with
38:51
that. Yeah, I could see that honestly,
38:53
I. I maybe maybe pair pair that
38:56
with with an extra auec charge to to repair wear and tear or
39:03
fresh I don't know you know something similar that can just
39:06
be a stop gap system until other other more permanent systems
39:10
come online. I think with crafting we'll have
39:14
a chance to do wear and tear replacements or breakdown and
39:18
rebuild broken components. I also really think we should
39:23
have to take these components to landing zones like Dumpers
39:27
Depot. I can't remember who was talking
39:29
about that, but taking stuff to like dumper Dumpers Depot to
39:34
overhaul it and then it's like, oh, come back in like an hour or
39:39
two hours or something. To have it fixed up with.
39:41
You that I'd like to see because AI want us to have a reason to
39:45
go there BI want us to have sort of an.
39:50
Well, every if you, if you think about it, if you think about it,
39:53
every, every hanger has that little cubby on the side.
39:57
Just I think just about every hanger has like drone repair
40:01
thing that you know, you could, you could, I could see us
40:04
carting, you know, components over there or something to have
40:07
them fixed up. And have them sit there and
40:10
like, all right, come back in like an hour.
40:12
The other thing that leads into crafting, a lot of games that
40:16
have any kind of crafting material, they also have,
40:18
besides the salvage that we have in our in, in, in the game now
40:22
we're, you know, hole scraping and munching and whatnot.
40:27
A lot of systems that have crafting also have a salvage
40:30
mechanic where either the the you take like a gun off and you
40:34
run it through your recycler, right?
40:37
And the recycler, there's like an RNG of this and that or
40:41
whatever components coming out of that recycling process that
40:44
you can then subsequently use in to make another version of that.
40:49
Absolutely. I think that I really think that
40:53
should happen with crafting just so we can a that'll give salvage
40:57
gameplay more to do because right now you can't sell
41:01
anything you salvage like components or weapons.
41:03
It's just junk. So like, all right, let us reuse
41:07
that, give salvagers more of a job, have them pair up with
41:10
crafters to rebuild stuff. Like come on CIG, send me the
41:16
check in the mail. Yeah, I, yeah, Engineering I
41:22
think is the first time, like the first way that they're going
41:27
to get us to care about our ships.
41:30
Stuff like crafting will further improve that because like if we
41:34
can do salvage, that means your components have to mean
41:38
something. So if they don't, then there's
41:41
no point in salvage. Could also have some maybe add
41:48
on slash unwanted effects caring about your ship.
41:52
You know, nowadays it's about anybody will fight just about
41:56
anybody else because you know, it's easy to repair your ship
41:59
and come get back in the fight or get back out there.
42:02
When you know, engineering comes on and you have to deal with all
42:07
that fire and messing around with that thing.
42:09
You're going to be less apartment to maybe take that
42:11
fight and your first instinct instead of fighting.
42:14
If you've got, you know, if you, if you got a little slow, a
42:17
little, just a little bit of game time, you don't have time
42:20
to mess with all this stuff. First instinct may be to run
42:23
every time. Oh yeah, running needs to be
42:27
more of a thing, you must think. And they've said this like CRG
42:32
devs have said this, something inside Stars says in Stars is
42:35
live. Like they said, well, you could
42:38
run. And of course people like laugh
42:40
at that and like, yeah, why would I run?
42:42
I want to fight and stuff. Like he's.
42:45
Right, he's right. Like ignore the British accent,
42:48
he's right. I think that's also getting into
42:53
the like separating out, which I've wanted them to do for a
42:57
while, separating out like arena commander and PU, because like
43:00
right now it's just every fight is just like an arena commander
43:04
fight. Like you go in, you see who can
43:06
kill the other one first and then you know, good fight and
43:10
chat and then move on. It's a DPS race, it's whoever
43:13
can apply the most DPS faster. It's something like.
43:21
So this is a a little moment now we have some some comments.
43:26
That we can beat me to it. And, and, and we have some
43:29
comments in the chat in the chat room and we have some comments
43:31
from the the discord there. Hobo do you want to start?
43:36
You want to read the. Which one do you want to do
43:38
first? Let's do the chat the chat box.
43:42
All right, so this is a. This is a topic near and dear to
43:47
this commenter's heart. He, he, he was very adamant
43:50
about this. It's, it's, it's our friend of
43:53
the show, former former Co host Drake Tabbington AKA Tab.
44:00
So there is not a naval vessel in this world that shouts at a
44:06
crew warning fire detected when they need to communicate to put
44:10
the fire out. Why is the fire alarm not just
44:13
an alarm of a certain sound? I'm just arguing arguing.
44:20
There's a reason that no Navy in the world uses verbal warnings.
44:25
He's not done. Like I said, this is near near
44:28
his heart. Every Navy has verbal warnings,
44:32
but it's the repetition after the call that is made that I
44:38
think is detrimental when listening to someone describe
44:41
the problem. At the heat of the moment, the
44:43
last thing a person needs is another piece of language and
44:47
repetition. Shouting fire detective.
44:50
To me it seems a case of the game trying to create a movie,
44:54
but that doesn't translate in game practice, much less
44:58
reality. Thank you, Tav for that comment.
45:03
Tav first of all, why don't you just come on the show if you're
45:08
going to write these long which can I taste them?
45:11
I totally agree with does the so the fire alarm shouts at you.
45:15
Oh yeah, it's done. It's unrelenting and.
45:18
And and yeah, I just. Have a Yeah, why not have a fire
45:24
alarm? It is a fire alarm it.
45:26
Says why not have a switch to silence the alarm?
45:29
That I agree with, that we need. We need, we need, we need
45:32
abilities to turn off the fire alarm.
45:34
It's right up there with a fire extinguisher jetpack.
45:38
Although one of those I feel like it's going to be more
45:40
likely to happen than the other, but.
45:44
Well, remember that new sound guy they got on?
45:46
He's like, I'm going to make all the phones.
45:47
I this is his idea of the fire alarm.
45:51
You got to take it up with that guy.
45:54
I agree there should be a switch.
45:56
Like there's 100% there should be a switch.
45:58
But I like the alarm. I I know because we're not all
46:05
going to have the same naval training you get in real life.
46:08
Or like this alarm meets this, this alarm means this like yeah,
46:15
I think. There could be a lot of alarms,
46:17
Yeah, on your ship, you know what I mean?
46:19
You can have alarms for all kinds of.
46:20
Things just just think of think about what you're saying after
46:23
100 hours of fighting fires on your Perseus a couple of weeks.
46:28
Let me let me let me turn off the alarm like that.
46:31
Yes. Like if they give that ability I
46:34
will have no complaints at all because then I can just allow
46:37
myself to a burned or crisp if I want to, which is what I did
46:40
earlier. OK, OK.
46:46
We have another time. Yeah.
46:49
Thank you, Tav. Thank you.
46:51
The next one is from Caddoil. He was just reiterating the
46:55
inferno. Check out the Perseus quickly,
46:58
but his. Interest you were fighting with
47:00
earlier in the beginning of the show.
47:02
Yes, that's how the clip from earlier that was from that
47:07
exchange we were testing, it was a friendly bout shoot.
47:10
In the Perseus, Cadoy was in the Perseus getting whacked.
47:14
Yeah, I was. I was in the Perseus and he was
47:17
in the Inferno, and the Inferno just shreds like components.
47:23
It, it was Blink and my power plant was dead.
47:27
Because if so, one of the big things with engineering that
47:32
people are going to have to learn where components are, they
47:36
need to learn. And that's not just for the
47:38
defensive side of things with engineering where you got to
47:40
know where to fix things. It's on the offensive side of
47:42
things too. Like, we sat down and I was in
47:46
the Perseus size 8 on the turrets, kind of searching for
47:50
where to hit, and he would run it.
47:52
He was running around inside the address to the key components.
47:56
And I'd had his marker in the party, so I knew where to aim.
48:00
But you're not going to have that on enemy ships usually.
48:03
So you kind of just need to learn at least vaguely where
48:08
things like engineering rooms are on ships.
48:14
OK OK, very good. I'm just real.
48:17
I'm realizing now that the other comment we had on the discord
48:21
was the same comment that to have had in in the.
48:24
Comments here so I'm. Not he is very adamant about
48:27
this. You should have heard him in
48:28
chat. He he very much despises this
48:31
repetition and of the alarm. You know, and can I say, can I
48:34
say the one on the Discord? Much shorter, much quicker to
48:37
the point to have. So gravity.
48:41
I don't know what, I don't know what's happening there.
48:44
Yeah, he has more to say. Not much to say, but the Cambio
48:49
SRT, which is again something that most people don't realize
48:54
exists in the game, that's a large salvage tool.
48:58
You know how we have the large tractor beam, but we have a
49:00
large salvage beam as well that no one ever has needed until now
49:07
because the. Cambio SRT is useful now for
49:11
repairing over the multi tool he says.
49:14
Does it repair faster or just does it repair components?
49:19
What do you mean it's it's more useful.
49:21
So we watched, I, I watched him trying to repair the Idris's
49:25
coolers with the little handheld multi tool.
49:28
Super slow. OK, so I imagine he went back.
49:33
Oh yeah, there you go. He had a follow up 26 seconds
49:36
for 1% compared to one minute and six seconds for 1%.
49:41
So sounds like it is much faster repairing.
49:44
Oh, OK. Yeah, it's more than double,
49:47
more than twice as fast. Which makes sense.
49:50
That's that's that's great news because no one uses that stupid
49:54
thing. And now it's no longer stupid.
49:56
Makes sense? To fully repaired is 2.6 hours.
50:02
We're talking interest component.
50:04
I know. 2.6 seconds for 1%, so times there'd be 260 seconds, so
50:12
you. Need to have more than one
50:14
person trying to repair. That's a couple minutes.
50:17
That's two minutes. That's also something you're
50:21
working on in the middle of battle, not after.
50:26
Repairing. After battle, you're going to,
50:28
you're just going to repair it enough so it's functional, so
50:30
you can drive back to the garage and have the drones come out and
50:34
repair you. Unless you're a cheapo and don't
50:37
want to pay that bill. Well you said he paid almost
50:40
$1,000,000 to repair it. Yeah.
50:46
That's some that's some big money.
50:48
That's some big money. Speaking of big money, the verse
50:51
the economy is inflated. I'm not just talking about the
50:55
real world out there. I'm talking about the real world
50:58
in Star Citizen money is is is persistent.
51:02
It's everywhere. They we just keep printing more.
51:05
AUECI have 30 million Wiki wiki. You just handed me 30 million
51:12
didn't even seem to affect you. I know that everybody has a shit
51:15
ton of money right now. Rob, you're you're you're going
51:18
out there. You're selling components to to
51:20
people and they're, I see you in the army posting outrageous
51:25
prices for some of these components.
51:27
Yeah, they're they're silly what they're paying.
51:30
I really thought this was the beginning of an ad read for like
51:33
the Empire's Heritage Institute, but no.
51:37
No no no no. But Cruise Lux is just for a
51:41
UEC. There it is.
51:43
Never inflated like Arizona ice T.
51:47
Wait, did Arizona go up in price?
51:49
Cruise Lux 7A UEC. It's you know what?
51:53
Take it back, Take it back, reverse course, rewind, but
51:59
everything in the. But in all seriousness, there's
52:02
too much money flying around everywhere.
52:06
I feel like we're being a little robbed here.
52:09
There's not enough sinks. We're getting one.
52:13
We're getting one now though. We're letting that sink in.
52:19
It's gonna be really interesting if, if, if engineering repairing
52:25
and if like, let's say this becomes a major, major price
52:29
sync or money sync, right? For every like 5 or 10 minutes
52:35
of battling you're going to do, you might have to go out and do
52:39
a a job space job like mining or or bounty hunting for a couple
52:44
of hours to make the money to be able to afford to go battle it.
52:51
They did say combat was to be expensive.
52:55
Combat was going to be expensive.
52:57
That's got to be a deterrent for people, just, you know.
53:00
That's another another reason. Oh, run away, this is.
53:03
I can't afford to fight you right now.
53:05
Yeah, because here's the thing. If.
53:06
Combat baby needs shoes. Being clubbed Being seal clubbed
53:10
is expensive. True.
53:14
Right, it's it's. Right now the insurance system
53:18
is still the same, so you're going to spawn back in with your
53:21
fresh ship. Well, I mean, that's probably
53:26
going to be the thing, you know, why repair it?
53:29
I can just fraud it and be right back in it.
53:33
It just blown up and get a new one.
53:34
Yeah, that's still going to be a problem for this foreseeable
53:37
future until we do get insurance updates.
53:42
Yeah, but also they're probably not confident that's stable
53:46
enough. Oh yeah, they're not going to be
53:48
fair. Yeah, yeah.
53:52
So is there anything to my my just targeted at my 2 gentlemen
53:56
in the PTU here and get the oil in chat who says repair bills
54:01
can be lowered by taking the time to repair what you can all.
54:05
Right, makes sense. What a fucking dad advice.
54:11
Do yourself God, change the oil yourself to save you on the
54:13
money. Is is there anything in this
54:16
patch that you were expecting or hoping for in the PTU right now
54:21
that isn't there? Solar flares.
54:26
Yeah, solar flares. What did you why did you expect
54:30
that? Because we played.
54:31
This as if I remember right there type engineering.
54:36
OK, Yeah. I could have been wrong but and
54:39
I think that might have been too much to to.
54:41
Deal with I guess. We haven't seen what the ship is
54:45
yet. We have no real indication of
54:48
what this patch's ship is. There's some hints of what it
54:54
might be. And tune out now for the next 5
54:57
seconds while I say the name. But OK, good.
55:02
They've tuned out. It was the Apollo Hermes that
55:07
was hinted at in previous leaks. Is that another medical ship?
55:13
No, it's supposedly cargo variant of the Apollo.
55:20
Yeah, it's it's the Apollo medical ship that we have, but
55:24
it's a cargo variant. So instead of the Med beds in
55:27
those modules, it's just probably cargo space.
55:30
Maybe the whole inside is cleared and it's just one big
55:33
cargo elevator. Which is frankly kind of a
55:36
boring use of the chassis, but we'll see.
55:41
Like that's that's only sort of vaguely been into that and
55:44
there's not been any new indication of it yet in this
55:48
batch. But I don't know, I was hoping
55:50
for maybe something a little more interesting.
55:53
I mean, the Apollo's a cool ship, but yeah.
55:55
It's fine. Some of these variants, you
55:58
know, like they feel, you just feel like they're like they're
56:01
doing it, you know? Easiest, easiest way out.
56:05
Lowest hanging fruit you know. Yeah, I like the do the cargo on
56:08
Olimox. It's like OK this.
56:12
Is I'm not. I've got a question that's kind
56:14
of engineering adjacent, but also medical.
56:21
Oh, so now that we're getting these engineering stations and
56:26
whatnot, what about ships that have a Med bed?
56:31
I've never seen anywhere. Maybe I've just overlooked it,
56:35
where you know your little Med gel goo.
56:38
Is there anywhere you can tell how full that is or how empty
56:42
it? Is yeah in the top right of the
56:44
medical panel. Oh, you have to actually go into
56:48
the medical panel. Yeah, you got to look at the
56:51
screen and it's got like 100 out of 200 or 200 out of 200
56:56
depending on like the size of the bed.
56:58
Is it super obvious because or I must be just missing it?
57:02
You know it would be super cool wicket if if you had a a Med
57:05
goo, a Med goo cylinder and you could see the goo from like
57:10
under the bed this. Is glowing.
57:13
Well, I'm. I'm, I'm thinking, you know,
57:16
even though that's medical, but that isn't that also part of
57:19
engineering as part of the ship function?
57:21
Shouldn't that shouldn't that be included in the engineering
57:25
console somewhere in the MFD? Maybe I could see it like once
57:31
we get more functions of a ship, I guess is where to put it
57:37
because like engineering in its current form is focused on just
57:44
the state of the survivability parts of the ship.
57:49
But I, I kind of feel like we should, that should be like
57:51
split off to another panel, like a status panel maybe of some
57:56
kind. That's like looking at all of
57:59
the other that's. Just I think it should be like a
58:04
like a progress bar, like somewhere really evident on the
58:08
bed because how many times have has your goo run out and you
58:12
couldn't spawn back at the bed? Yeah, that makes sense.
58:16
And if you have like 3 beds in a row and we'll say one of them
58:20
doesn't have goo and you're just walking in there, you want to
58:22
see right away which bed has goo.
58:24
Yeah, that's the thing. You can, you can.
58:27
You only have to click in. You only have to click into the
58:30
MFD itself. It shows it you just.
58:33
Look at it. Well, wiki you got to.
58:35
You got to work harder. Use those eyes, old man.
58:39
Well, I, you know, unlike some of you, I don't die that much.
58:45
OK, true. I would people around me to I
58:49
got I have friends that res me. Up.
58:51
Your friends are falling down all around you, Yeah.
58:54
I would like a light, some sort of light that's like if this is
58:57
red, the bed is like got a red. The bed is dead.
59:00
If it's red, it's dead. Oh, just change the yellow
59:04
color. Change the color.
59:05
Yellow. It's half green.
59:07
It's good for goo. Well, we're getting very much in
59:10
the caveman. Oh, color good, color bad.
59:12
But like sometimes. That's what they're doing
59:14
though. They're doing that with the
59:15
doors. Yeah, it's like those caveman
59:18
holograms on the door traffic lights.
59:20
Red, yellow and blue. Or red, yellow and green.
59:22
What am I saying? Blue.
59:25
What? Kind of blue traffic lights you
59:27
got up there. The fancy ones, man, they're
59:30
bespoke. Bespoke traffic lights.
59:34
I I I'm color blind so I probably wouldn't see those.
59:39
And then another thing, the fire extinguishers, I know they have
59:43
a, a, a meter on them when you're holding them to indicate
59:47
the fullness of the fire extinguisher.
59:49
And then the display tells you the temperature.
59:51
Is that correct? The number it when the fire
59:55
extinguisher is on the wall and it's a little cubby.
59:59
Is there a indicator that you can see to see if it's full or
1:00:03
empty? I don't think so, but I also
1:00:10
don't know, 'cause when my fire exchanger ran out on the PTUI,
1:00:14
just kind of put it back on and ran off, I didn't like look at
1:00:17
it. But does recharge over time,
1:00:20
right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:00:23
I don't know how fast. I don't think it's that fast.
1:00:27
No, it can't be too fast or else you can just spam it.
1:00:31
They. They'd have to have like some
1:00:34
some some limitations here Wiki. You just want to be walking
1:00:37
around. You want to see bars?
1:00:38
You want to see charts? You want to see numbers?
1:00:41
Colors. Colors.
1:00:44
Yeah, I mean, what is it, 2955? I know we don't have tinted
1:00:50
windows or sun visors in the in the cockpit, but you know
1:00:55
anything to me in my mind, things that I take for granted
1:01:00
even now and in today's everyday world outside of our beloved
1:01:04
space fantasy, things that you kind of take for granted.
1:01:10
And if they're going for more of that realistic field, these
1:01:12
things seem like self-evident to me.
1:01:15
Well, we are getting lamps. Oh.
1:01:21
So all right, that requires. Yeah, take it away with lamps
1:01:25
only on open comms radio. I can't remember what the
1:01:29
acronym exactly stands for. Light amplified something
1:01:33
something. Yeah, but it's supposed to be
1:01:37
sort of our way to, it's supposed to be our night vision,
1:01:40
essentially. So for, for ships, it's supposed
1:01:43
to be our night vision for ships.
1:01:44
So we can finally see in the freaking dark.
1:01:47
Because how many years has it been?
1:01:49
And we how many time, how many times has it been when you're
1:01:54
flying along and you crash because it's dark all the time?
1:02:01
So. I mean theory never.
1:02:02
Supposed to work with? Yeah, I'm sure you've never
1:02:05
crashed in the. Dark.
1:02:06
Not once. Not a single time.
1:02:09
I'm always, I'm always pinging. Well, yeah, you gotta.
1:02:12
Do that now. I got on my flick on my stick.
1:02:15
Yeah, I got one on my throttle. Yeah, all the time.
1:02:19
My. Fancy new throttle?
1:02:20
I'm like man I wish I could just have this ping like permanently
1:02:25
like like some kind of like green pink screen so I can
1:02:28
always see the outline of the of the ground didn't.
1:02:31
Have y'all ever play the Heavy Gear franchise?
1:02:35
Heavy gear. Heavy gear.
1:02:37
No. All right, so it was a MEC game
1:02:41
from like the 90s and was actually a very interesting
1:02:45
product of I think it was Activision not getting license
1:02:49
to battle tech. So they were like, all right,
1:02:52
we're going to make our own Mecca game franchise with
1:02:56
blackjack and hookers. It was pretty good, but it had a
1:03:00
low light mode that was kind of like green because everyone
1:03:07
thinks that's what all of my vision is.
1:03:09
It's green. But it was very cool and I want
1:03:14
something and it had the cool lines of low light engaged and
1:03:18
such a cool game with they had night vision down and that was
1:03:22
in the 90s. It was also from the 90's, the
1:03:26
movie heavyweights. Did you see that movie?
1:03:32
No. Brock, Rob, you ever seen
1:03:35
heavyweights? Can't say I have.
1:03:37
What wicked. What?
1:03:41
OK, if you've seen heavyweights, write your review of
1:03:44
heavyweights in the comments below.
1:03:47
If you've made it this far, Drake loves it.
1:03:50
Tav Tav loves heavyweights. I just watched it again tonight.
1:03:54
It does not have good reviews. To be fair, none none of those
1:03:59
movies in the 90s have good reviews.
1:04:01
Major Payne, The Sandlot, The Indian in the Cupboard.
1:04:06
This. Was a Disney movie.
1:04:09
Oh, yeah, they do. Disney made a lot of bangers in
1:04:11
the day that they Yeah, yeah, they do not age well.
1:04:16
If listen, if you have a Disney Plus, you can pop in the right
1:04:20
now, you can watch Heavyweights. You won't be disappointed.
1:04:25
Well, I just finished Strange Brew, which had a Rick Moranis
1:04:31
finish that before you got. Rick Moranis.
1:04:34
Yeah, Rick Moranis. Strange goo.
1:04:36
Strange brew. He makes what's he He's an
1:04:40
alchemist or he's a potion maker or something.
1:04:43
He's kind of a fuck up drinker with his brother.
1:04:47
They're just, they drink a lot of beer and their whole thing is
1:04:51
being Canadian and drinking beer.
1:04:57
That that sounds just sounds like a life, doesn't sound like
1:05:00
a movie. It it's, it's, it's there's a
1:05:03
plot to it. It's, it's not, it's not an
1:05:06
amazing movie, honestly, but it's got Rick Moranis and Dave
1:05:12
Thomas as the main characters and, and it's got Max Vaughn's
1:05:18
shit. How do I say his last name?
1:05:20
Sido. Sido yeah, he is he is the bad
1:05:24
guy in it. He and actually they
1:05:26
specifically wrote that role for him and it's just kind of this
1:05:31
somewhat low budget Canadian comedy and they managed to get a
1:05:36
famous Swedish actor and he was just coming off of doing oh, his
1:05:43
his the the 7th Seal. Yeah, which was like one of his
1:05:48
most well known films. Please tell me you'll have in
1:05:53
the 7th. Seal No, never do I feel, you
1:05:57
know, I feel like in a lot of ways, none of us, we, we all had
1:06:02
very divergent childhoods. You know, I was watching
1:06:08
heavyweights and Kadoyle writes. But she's correct about that.
1:06:11
Heavyweights is part of dodgeball history, so just the
1:06:15
background here. What I was talking about, the
1:06:17
bad guy in Heavyweights who runs the summer camp at the end gets
1:06:20
defeated and his character arc is that then he changes his name
1:06:25
and becomes the bad guy in dodgeball because they're the
1:06:27
same character. That is, it's a fascinating
1:06:33
connection between those movies. I mean, they have different
1:06:36
names, but like, he changes the name, but it's like the same
1:06:38
character. And he has, like, a thing about
1:06:43
being overweight and like, it's literally, it's awesome.
1:06:48
And how to traumatize. Yeah, yeah.
1:06:49
It's all about traumatizing children and stuff.
1:06:52
A lot of it tracks. I think Ben Stiller had a had a
1:06:57
plan in mind. I think I'm just going to keep
1:06:59
playing this guy forever. But that said, we we all got
1:07:04
here to the same place, you know?
1:07:08
Yeah. Old and and computer games
1:07:16
speaking. Of what?
1:07:16
It's my birthday tomorrow. Happy birthday, you're the only
1:07:21
25. Yeah, only 25.
1:07:28
What do you What do you want for your birthday?
1:07:32
The camaraderie of friends and family.
1:07:41
All right, I'm not going to be there.
1:07:48
Very well, Very well done, Well done.
1:07:51
Just getting just getting a little bite out.
1:07:53
But then I'll I'll be back for that.
1:07:55
So yeah, I'll be there. Very good, Very good.
1:08:01
Also an interest. Also an interest.
1:08:03
Also an interest. Yeah, Yeah.
1:08:06
We're going to go to an arcade tomorrow for your birthday and I
1:08:09
hope. We're going to tapas.
1:08:12
Oh, I thought we were. Oh, OK.
1:08:17
The the arcade is the bar. I'm excited.
1:08:19
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
1:08:20
I got them confused. That's a good thing.
1:08:21
Oh it's fine hobo. It's this jar.
1:08:23
Jar is going to be really disappointed.
1:08:26
I want to play Frogger. We'll we'll play Frogger in
1:08:30
January when we have the bar. We'll play Frogger tomorrow.
1:08:33
Will be fancy tapas. OK, Yeah, yeah, I get it.
1:08:36
I get it, I get it. You're going to.
1:08:39
Show up to the wrong place tomorrow, weren't you?
1:08:42
Yeah, maybe it's. Going to show up to the right
1:08:45
place. Yeah, I'd be there.
1:08:47
I'd be having a. Boy, it's like I'm at the
1:08:49
topless place. All right, all right, all right,
1:08:53
yes. To have Goonies and it it was
1:08:56
all right. Goonies was great.
1:08:58
Goonies was one of did you guys watch Goonies?
1:09:00
It's. Been a while.
1:09:03
I think I did, yeah. You've seen it though you think
1:09:05
it did. I don't remember I.
1:09:08
Look, I've seen so many movies I can't remember.
1:09:10
I don't even remember anymore. I've seen Goonies now.
1:09:12
I didn't see it. I looked up Heavyweights.
1:09:16
I've seen that too, but I don't remember it.
1:09:18
It's been a long time ago. You should.
1:09:19
You should give it a rewatch. Brockie.
1:09:21
Rob, did you see Goonies? No, I was not a more.
1:09:27
Uncommon. Goonies a girly.
1:09:31
I remember watching it like half watching it on a trip or
1:09:34
something and I wasn't fond of it but.
1:09:37
What I've seen, I've seen all these movies like 1000 times,
1:09:42
like Goonies maybe a dozen times, Heavyweights, I probably,
1:09:45
I may have seen 1000 times. I had the VHS and we ran that
1:09:49
tape. I watched it today and I haven't
1:09:53
seen it maybe in like 20 years. And I was quoting it left and
1:09:56
right, dude, Speaking of Speaking of good quotes.
1:09:59
So it's the end of the shows is where we go around and we we
1:10:02
talk to our guests and we ask him one simple question.
1:10:06
Broccoli. Rob, is there anything you'd
1:10:08
like to say to CAG, Chris Roberts or the people on the
1:10:10
Internet? Yeah, Chris Roberts, keep up the
1:10:14
good work. Keep making the game that we all
1:10:18
wanted to play in the 1st place and yeah, keep doing your thing.
1:10:26
Wick anything you want to say to Chris Roberts, CIG or the people
1:10:28
on the Internet. Chris, Sandy, I know you're not
1:10:31
going to listen to this again. Fire extinguisher, death packs.
1:10:36
We're all about it. What happened?
1:10:38
Don't let us down. You can still do it.
1:10:41
Yeah, yeah. We'll have to.
1:10:42
We'll we'll we'll have to do something about this.
1:10:44
We'll have to make something. It's.
1:10:46
Unbelievable. We'll make a petition.
1:10:47
It's yeah, it's there's, we're going to do something about
1:10:50
this. Could you have also, could you
1:10:54
imagine somebody's holding the fire extinguisher?
1:10:57
The boarding party comes in. Gravity is no.
1:11:00
The gravity generator on the ship is busted.
1:11:04
Now there's a boarding party. There's a guy in the
1:11:06
engineering. He's squirting his fire
1:11:08
extinguisher, trying to put out the fire.
1:11:10
And the pirates that are boarding his ship, they shoot at
1:11:13
him. They hit his fire extinguisher,
1:11:15
punch a hole through it. Now he goes spinning out of
1:11:17
control. Cinema.
1:11:23
Anyway, yeah, dude, yeah, I mean, even you could use it as
1:11:26
an as an escape device, Yeah. Anyway, cell phone, the airlock
1:11:32
or whatever. My imagination is too grand for
1:11:36
Chris Roberts vision. They don't know what they have.
1:11:39
They really, you know. Well, hobo, we did it.
1:11:45
Another one in the books, another one for your birthday.
1:11:50
Yay, there you go. There you go, There you go.
1:11:53
Well, do you know how this usually works here?
1:11:55
At the end of the show, you got to play us out.