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55KRC Thursday Show - Warren Davidson, Jon Husted, Thomas Mack, Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Five O five fifty five k r C the talk
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Speaker 1: the past. Anyway, it was wonderful time. I had a
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Speaker 1: great time, put a smile on my face. Selfish, yes, perhaps,
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Speaker 1: but looking around the room looked like some people were
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Speaker 1: So we ended it on at least another positive note
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Speaker 1: for me coming up on the fifty five Casion Morning show.
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Speaker 1: Got a fast forward seven five. I will do my
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Speaker 1: best to come up with something to talk about between
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Speaker 1: now and then, but I could sure use your help
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Speaker 1: because after the listener lunch, it was the iHeartMedia Christmas
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Speaker 1: party that was very well attended too, And so I
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Speaker 1: was here and you know, if there was an open
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Speaker 1: bar and plenty of orders and things like that, and
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Speaker 1: I overslept this morning desperately. Five one, three, seven, two
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Speaker 1: to three talks Congressman Warren Davidson at seven oh five.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about Bitcoin for America Act. Yeah, we'll learn
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Speaker 1: together about that. One healthcare reform question, Mark, what do
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Speaker 1: we do to reform the healthcare system? It's a good question.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why it's just kind of hanging out there
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Speaker 1: on the topic list, does Congressman Warren Davidson have any
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Speaker 1: ideas about healthcare reform? I hope so. And taking out
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Speaker 1: narco terrorists with politicians all over the board on that one,
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Speaker 1: that was kind of again we talked about with Judge
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Speaker 1: ended of Politano that was a subject matter of his column.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you got you have politicians from across the
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Speaker 1: board taking multiple different positions, none of them really I
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Speaker 1: think saying like we have to engage in some act,
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Speaker 1: we have to file a lawsuit, we need to have
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Speaker 1: a hearing, we need to impeach. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you don't like Trump dropping bombs on the narco terrorists
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Speaker 1: that are hanging out on the coast of Venezuela fifteen
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Speaker 1: hundred miles away, and I really think congressional action. I'm
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Speaker 1: one of the people who believes that there's a rule
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Speaker 1: of law. And those who out there screaming and worrying
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Speaker 1: about an imperial presidency. Oh my god, we've got Ji
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Speaker 1: Jinping running the show here. Fascist Donald Trump can do
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Speaker 1: whatever he damn well pleases. That's part of the argument
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Speaker 1: that I'm making, although I'm not you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: believe Donald Trump is the fascist that I know that.
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Speaker 1: There's a huge difference definitionally speaking between what we have here,
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Speaker 1: what reality is, what the definition of fascism and socialism
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Speaker 1: and communism are. I get all that, But is he
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Speaker 1: free to do this? Obama did it, Bush did it,
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Speaker 1: Biden did it. Everybody's running around dropping bombs on bad guys.
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Speaker 1: And the only justification, the only reason no one seems
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Speaker 1: to be resisting the whole concept of the president's ability
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Speaker 1: to randomly drop bombs on any given region to the
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Speaker 1: world because the motivations behind it. We approve of who
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Speaker 1: wants drugs in our country? Nobody except the drug users,
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Speaker 1: I suppose, and the dealers who sell it, very small
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Speaker 1: percentage of the population compared to the rest of us.
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Speaker 1: The rest of us would like a crime free environment
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Speaker 1: without drugs and around people dropping debt all over the place,
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Speaker 1: ruining the streets and taxing our social welfare state. Great.
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Speaker 1: The goal of ending drugs into our country is admirable.
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Speaker 1: I don't know anybody sheds a single tier when one
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Speaker 1: of those narco terrorists gets blown up, But what's the
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Speaker 1: legal predicate behind it? See, that's important to me. I
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Speaker 1: obviously it was important to founding fathers with checks and balances.
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Speaker 1: They didn't want a king, they just got rid of one.
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Speaker 1: So depending on who you talk to, you know, one side,
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Speaker 1: basically the screw it side. Representative Tim Burchett, Republican out
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Speaker 1: of Tennessee, so the strikes didn't require Congression approval, saying
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Speaker 1: that US had waited too long to confront what he
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Speaker 1: described as a drug trafficking and terror financing threat. Quote.
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Speaker 1: These guys are bringing drugs into our country. Pause factual statement,
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Speaker 1: no kidding, they're killing Americans. Factual statement, no kidding. It's
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Speaker 1: long overdue. It's of course, referring to blowing up boats
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Speaker 1: off the coast of Venezuela. Trump gets that. He said,
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Speaker 1: that's why he does executive orders, because we, meaning Congress,
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Speaker 1: ain't got the guts to do anything. And ah, maybe
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Speaker 1: he just stumbled upon the big problem we've got here.
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Speaker 1: There's so much division in this country. Anything Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: wants to do can't get legislative or congressional approval because
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Speaker 1: anything Trump wants to do, the Democrat's gonna say no to.
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Speaker 1: And you need more than we've got on the Republican
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Speaker 1: side of the legend to get it done. And just
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Speaker 1: of course, what I believe to be the constitutionally appropriate
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Speaker 1: view of a guy like Senator Ram Paul who says
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Speaker 1: you need congressional authority to start waging war out there,
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Speaker 1: and Democrats screaming and yelling about this but not proposing anything.
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Speaker 1: And again they can't look in the rear view mirror
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Speaker 1: because nobody said anything. Well, some Republicans did when Obama
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Speaker 1: was doing the same thing, except he was doing it
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Speaker 1: pursuing into the two thousand and one going way way
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Speaker 1: back to the post nine to eleven Terrorist Actions authorization
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Speaker 1: and used the military force to go after terrorists. I
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Speaker 1: suppose it turned into a terror generally speaking. So see
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Speaker 1: that's the lynchpin right there. Maybe Donald Trump still operating
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Speaker 1: under the prior authorization to use of military force, because
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Speaker 1: all you need to do, apparently is call someone and
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Speaker 1: label a group a terrorist organization, and then when you
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Speaker 1: blow them up, you can say I was blowing up terrorists.
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Speaker 1: What is the definition of terrorists under those the parameters
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Speaker 1: that we seem to have now for the bombing of
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Speaker 1: people anywhere in the world. It's a very confusing subject matter.
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Speaker 1: Is this is again why I wish we had I
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Speaker 1: suppose a more unified Congress looking at this practically, as
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Speaker 1: opposed to politically, looking at it from a legal perspective,
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Speaker 1: as opposed to the oh my god, evil Orange man
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Speaker 1: wants to do it. So no perspective, no response to
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Speaker 1: anything Trump does by way of policy. That's the platform
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Speaker 1: of the Democrats right now. It's Trump says it. It's good,
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Speaker 1: it's bad, So anyway you can listen. I get a
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Speaker 1: lot of grief from my grief pushback, shall we say,
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Speaker 1: from comments suggested to PAULA.
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Speaker 4: Town.
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Speaker 1: I'm not defending him and his positions, and we all
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Speaker 1: kind of appreciate the fact that he's not a huge
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Speaker 1: Trump fan himself. I mean, there is no question about
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Speaker 1: that in my mind. But he does raise important constitutional
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Speaker 1: and legal points about what is going on, and his
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Speaker 1: criticisms aren't completely exclusive to Donald Trump. Again, going back
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Speaker 1: to all the prior presidents and administrations, this seems to
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Speaker 1: be the norm because what we're trying to achieve is
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Speaker 1: collectively viewed by both republic and Democrats as a good thing,
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Speaker 1: i e. Keeping drugs out in this particular case, keeping
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Speaker 1: drugs out of our country. If you throw out the
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Speaker 1: constitutional reality of a need for a declaration of war.
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Speaker 1: If you throw out legal norms and international law and
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Speaker 1: all the other laws, ethics and morals and everything. If
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Speaker 1: you throw them out the window, and you have a
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Speaker 1: person in a position to wage a war against these
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Speaker 1: people who are bringing drugs in, then expedience wins a day.
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Speaker 1: What do you want? I want drugs out of my country.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, do whatever it takes. Is effectively, where we
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Speaker 1: are a president that can literally do whatever he wants
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Speaker 1: in order to achieve the goal that we all agree upon.
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Speaker 1: There's your imperial presidency, at least in so far as
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Speaker 1: waging war. Is that something you really want? I mean,
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Speaker 1: you feel a little bit safe under the Trump administration,
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Speaker 1: maybe because in the case of my listening audience, he's,
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Speaker 1: you know, our guy, he's your guy. We'd much rather
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Speaker 1: have a Donald Trump and the pre and then see
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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden wandering around aimlessly being guided away from
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Speaker 1: little children by rabbits, someone who completely checked out of
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Speaker 1: the job and was being manipulated by puppet masters behind
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Speaker 1: the scene. The autopen is a really key example of that.
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Speaker 1: There's no records that he even approved a lot of
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Speaker 1: the autopen. That's why Donald Trump said the other day
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Speaker 1: that those autopen executive orders have been rescinded, so a
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Speaker 1: rudderless ship. Well, apparently we actually had rudders in the
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Speaker 1: form of the people telling Joe Biden what to do.
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Speaker 1: But because Trump is quote unquote our guy, I'm not
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Speaker 1: comfortable with him being able to do whatever the hell
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Speaker 1: he wants, even though what he's doing is something I want.
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Speaker 1: In other words, eradicating evil so and so's who bring
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Speaker 1: drugs into our country. There's when we get to that expedience.
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Speaker 1: Is he getting the job done? Yeah, he is, got
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Speaker 1: videotape proven it. Does he have the authority to get
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Speaker 1: the job done in the way he is doing it? Now,
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Speaker 1: that's where we kind of run off the rails. But
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Speaker 1: all the political commentators and all the politicians who've chimed
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Speaker 1: in on this will say something either it's okay and great,
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Speaker 1: go ahead and do it. Everybody's been doing it for
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Speaker 1: years and years now all the way over to this
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Speaker 1: is illegal. He shouldn't be doing. What he's doing is
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Speaker 1: committing murder. Nothing in there during this debate has resulted
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Speaker 1: in sort of how do you stop it? If it's
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Speaker 1: wrong what he's doing, What mechanism is in place to
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Speaker 1: stop him from doing it. And then there's just like
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Speaker 1: theory in the law called latches. If you let something
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Speaker 1: go long enough, if you've abided by what has been
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Speaker 1: going on long enough, then you're precluded from making an
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Speaker 1: argument that you can't do it.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 1: Look, we've got precedent here, going all the way back
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Speaker 1: to George Bush at two thousand and one, the authorization
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Speaker 1: used military force. We've got precedent for this. That's not
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Speaker 1: a declaration of war. It just gives the president massively
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Speaker 1: that now has been going on for a couple of decades,
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Speaker 1: to pretty much do whatever he wants. This is the
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Speaker 1: bed that has been made, and Donald Trump obviously taking
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Speaker 1: advantage of the bed that's been made. Brian Thomas says, fine,
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Speaker 1: the results seemed to be working, but I don't find
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Speaker 1: it to be necessarily constitutional. Five point three seven fifty
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Speaker 1: five hundred. I told you I didn't get enough sleep
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Speaker 1: last night. I was busy and I didn't know what
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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about. So there's your rambling introduction
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Speaker 1: to the fifty five Krsing Morning Show for this Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Feel free to call it a chime in. I'll be
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Speaker 1: right back after these words.
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Speaker 6: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station.
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Speaker 1: Each and every one of you. Let's start with New
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Speaker 1: Hampshire Gary, Jay, Dave hang On, be right with you,
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Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Gary, Welcome back to the Morning Show. Welcome.
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Speaker 4: How you doing?
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Speaker 1: How you doing, Brian, I've been better.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to take I'm going to take you on
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Speaker 4: a little bit explode the exploding boat part.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I kind of unders stand you're you're coming from a
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Speaker 4: legal perspective because you are a lawyer. However, I got
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Speaker 4: to tell you, as a general, I think the mass
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Speaker 4: people who have voted for Trump or those type of people,
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Speaker 4: that this is exactly what they voted for. You want
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Speaker 4: to see these boats blow up? Okay, to the.
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Speaker 1: Other hand, I'm this is the thing. You've got something
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Speaker 1: we all uniformly agree on from a you know, a
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Speaker 1: perception state. But do we want illegal narcotics out of
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Speaker 1: our country? Yes, it's illegal to use narcotics, it's illegal
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Speaker 1: to fery narcotics, illegal trafficking. I want them all dead.
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Speaker 1: But how do you get to that point? Lawfully? I'm
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Speaker 1: stuck with the law.
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Speaker 4: And this is the whole thing, This is the whole thing.
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Speaker 4: In a nutshell, that people have absolutely zero confidence in
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Speaker 4: our law or in the judicial branch is completely failed
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Speaker 4: us time and time and time and time again because
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Speaker 4: how many people were executed or went to trial for
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Speaker 4: nine to eleven? Well, how many people have you seen?
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Speaker 4: The law has absolutely failed. And actually I think it's
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Speaker 4: a little intentional because we can go all the way
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Speaker 4: back to the college education system. Our leaders have failed
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Speaker 4: us in the legislative and that includes Republicans have absolutely
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Speaker 4: failed us. So when the system fails, you don't care
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Speaker 4: about the system that's failing you. You want a solution.
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Speaker 4: And the solution is I want somebody in there who's
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Speaker 4: going to kill people who are doing bad things.
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Speaker 1: And why doesn't that embrace what doesn't that embrace what
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Speaker 1: I believe the left ultimately once, which is the complete
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Speaker 1: destruction of our country. You're talking about people's frustration with
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Speaker 1: our system, our constitutional system, separation of powers and all
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Speaker 1: of that. That what you're talking about is just ignoring
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Speaker 1: that because it is broken in the sense that there
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Speaker 1: is no you know, the Congress is not working collectively,
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Speaker 1: it's not working to our collective advantage. It's busy fighting
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Speaker 1: amongst themselves and not bringing about any results that benefit
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Speaker 1: the American people. So with that, you're like, well, throw
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Speaker 1: it all out. That's exactly what this division, this dividing
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Speaker 1: our country over every single issue is all about. Giving
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Speaker 1: people saying I give up the Constitution is screwing us
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Speaker 1: because there's too many impediments of getting something done. The
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Speaker 1: Congress doesn't work, it won't pass laws, it won't do
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Speaker 1: something to fix our overspending. It's broken. So somebody just
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Speaker 1: get in there and say we're going to do this
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Speaker 1: without any authority and do it. I hear it, I
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Speaker 1: see it.
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Speaker 4: I think along with the theory it's called bottom up,
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Speaker 4: top down, and inside out, that that goes along with
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Speaker 4: that theory of how to create a revolution. Yeah, but
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying throw the Constitution out. I'm saying that
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Speaker 4: the will of our leaders are mostly Democrats, but there
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Speaker 4: are a lot of Republicans who want this system to
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Speaker 4: fail so that they can so they perpetuate. Bring the
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Speaker 4: drugs in. You know, it's the same thing we look
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Speaker 4: at Chicago with gun control. Bring the guns in. They
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Speaker 4: love when more guns come to Chicago. They just don't
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Speaker 4: want the law biting though them, right, they get control.
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Speaker 4: Same thing with Cincinnati, or if you want to see
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Speaker 4: a cess pool. Look at any major city like the
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Speaker 4: city of Cincinnati, the roving gangs and the mobs, and
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Speaker 4: they want that. The leadership wants that, you know, because
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Speaker 4: it's good for them. Well, okay, yeah, it creates embarrassment,
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Speaker 4: but they get control overall the city.
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Speaker 1: Through fear, well and the fear of I guess the
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Speaker 1: narco terrorist is the president control without congressional authority to
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Speaker 1: go blowing things up. It's it's it's a breakdown of
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Speaker 1: our system across the board. And I don't think anybody,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know this. This is the frustrating part.
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Speaker 1: But regardless of where you are on this, just giving
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Speaker 1: someone random authority to just do whatever to get it done,
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Speaker 1: whatever it happens to be, that ends up resulting in
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Speaker 1: an undermining of the core principles upon which this great
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Speaker 1: nation was founded. And that is the disturbing element in
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Speaker 1: all of this. And I don't know what the solution is.
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Speaker 1: It is politically expedient and effective, yes, for him to
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Speaker 1: blow up narco terrorists and before the boats even get
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Speaker 1: close to us. I guess I'm of the mind that
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Speaker 1: if you really have an executive that is in charge
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Speaker 1: of the military that can act on his own to
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Speaker 1: protect us from eminent harm. Then wait for the damn
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Speaker 1: boats to get close to our waters, and then you
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Speaker 1: can say, look, here it comes. They're getting ready to
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Speaker 1: flood our market and kill our people with the drugs. Okay,
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Speaker 1: now blow them up, or just get the coastguard to
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Speaker 1: pull them over, arrest them and prosecuting for drug crimes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's the way things have been
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Speaker 1: working for a while. We got the border shut down
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Speaker 1: under Trump that did not require some extra constitutional effort.
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Speaker 1: It was just Donald Trump saying, no, we're going to
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Speaker 1: enforce the immigration laws that are already on the books,
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Speaker 1: something Biden could have done forever. But you know why
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Speaker 1: he didn't, because the Democrats wanted to naturalize and legalize
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Speaker 1: all the twenty million illegal immigrants that had already crossed
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Speaker 1: the border, and they weren't going to concede and close
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Speaker 1: the border under current law until they got what they want.
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Speaker 1: They never got what they wanted. Enter Donald Trump. He
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Speaker 1: enforces the law on the books that I can embrace
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Speaker 1: because the law's already there. If we had an open
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Speaker 1: border under the law, if everyone was entitled to come
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Speaker 1: in and Donald Trump shut it down and said no
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Speaker 1: one can come in. That'd be something different, that will
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Speaker 1: be sort of beyond the reach of the executive branch.
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Speaker 1: It will be him unilaterally doing something that the law
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Speaker 1: doesn't allow for. But that's not the circumstance. But in
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Speaker 1: this I argue that it's different, and I get where
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Speaker 1: you are coming from. I just don't like the undermining
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Speaker 1: of our constitution. Slippery slope, Jay and Dave hang on
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Speaker 1: five twenty eight right now. If you five cares so
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Speaker 1: the talk station, you would be right back straight to
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Speaker 1: the homes. Let's get Dave real quick here. Dave, Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the show. Everybody else, hang on for a minute.
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Speaker 1: I'll take all the calls I can get there today, Dave,
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Speaker 1: thanks for holding. Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 7: Hi, thank you, Brian. Let me take a call. I'll
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Speaker 7: listen to you a lot on my way to work
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Speaker 7: every morning on Monday through Friday. The question I got
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Speaker 7: is that I know I voted for President Trump. I
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Speaker 7: like what he's doing and the Constitution. I think sometimes
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Speaker 7: he wants to do.
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Speaker 8: What he's got to do, but he has to do.
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Speaker 7: Like he said, like he's talking to the guy before Congress,
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Speaker 7: ain't doing anything, so he to do what he has
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Speaker 7: to do to get things going on. And the question
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Speaker 7: I got for you too, I guess this is more
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Speaker 7: of a domestic one. I know he's labeled some organizations
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Speaker 7: as domestic. Uh is he able to do the same
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Speaker 7: thing to them as he's doing with the drunk people.
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Speaker 1: Well, one could ask that question legitimately, Dave, because see,
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Speaker 1: once you get into the whole concept of fast and
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Speaker 1: loose a you went into the realm of kind of well,
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Speaker 1: maybe can you blow up somebody in the neighborhood. I
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Speaker 1: don't think so. We do have due process. And that's
21:32
Speaker 1: another pesky little thing that I embraced because listen, if
21:35
Speaker 1: I'm accused of a crime, I want due process. If
21:39
Speaker 1: it's think it's some like what happened to the January
21:42
Speaker 1: sixth protest is effectively the Biden administration labeled them a
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Speaker 1: bunch of terrorists. They prosecuted and they locked them up,
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Speaker 1: they treated them cruelly in prison, and most of them
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Speaker 1: really didn't do a damn thing. So was that right?
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Speaker 4: Mean?
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Speaker 1: No, I know, you see the fast and loose, the
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Speaker 1: slippery slope. That's why I cling to the idea and
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Speaker 1: the concept at least of these separation of powers and
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Speaker 1: the obligations of each branch to do what they're supposed
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Speaker 1: to be doing. When that breaks down, as it apparently
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Speaker 1: has in so many instances over the last well since
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Speaker 1: Trump showed up, Democrats have just used him as this
22:23
Speaker 1: foil to divide the American people. Anything he does is
22:26
Speaker 1: bad and evil and wrong, so they've got gridlock. Gridlock
22:29
Speaker 1: results in something either not being done at all, or
22:34
Speaker 1: someone like Donald Trump's saying, you know what'screwd You guys
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Speaker 1: aren't getting the job done. I'm gonna do whatever it
22:38
Speaker 1: takes to get it done. I know you like the result,
22:41
Speaker 1: but is it lawful? I don't know. Maybe he needs
22:44
Speaker 1: to drop a bomb on who's been labeled a terrorist
22:47
Speaker 1: organization of late Antifa. You got an Antiphah encampment packing
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Speaker 1: up and or you know, squatting in some parks somewhere.
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Speaker 1: Let's drop a bomb on them and we'll see what
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Speaker 1: happens after that. Maybe then the question will get answered
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Speaker 1: on whether or not it's a pro to do it
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Speaker 1: anyplace else. I'm obviously I'm expressing frustration, and they don't
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Speaker 1: even answer. I'm just pointing out the larger problem. That
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Speaker 1: I perceive. Who's next there, Joe Strecker, Oh a break?
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Speaker 1: Oh that I went over last time and I got
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Speaker 1: the Harry eyeball. So let's not do that. Let's get
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Speaker 1: Tom and Jay. You don't mind holding it right back
23:21
Speaker 1: after I mentioned calling Electric because they've got a great
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Speaker 1: special going on right now at talk station by thirty
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Speaker 1: nine on a Friday Eve, Happy Friday, Eve three two
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Speaker 1: three talk. Jay didn't want to stay over the break,
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Speaker 1: but Tom did. Tom, welcome back, my friend, Happy Friday Eve. Well,
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Speaker 1: did we lose Tom, Joe, No, you gotta talk out loud.
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Speaker 5: Tom. I'm in that bad cell spot up here in Middletown,
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Speaker 5: so you went right to me while I was in
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Speaker 5: the middle of it. Am I still there?
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Speaker 1: Yes? You are go ahead?
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Speaker 5: All right? Great? Great?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 5: Sorry he dropped off what I would say. I don't
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Speaker 5: deserve that, but I probably do.
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Speaker 1: Listen, we're just gonna declared that today a fast and
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Speaker 1: loose day. All right. We just let's just go on record,
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Speaker 1: because that's about how I feel today, Fast and lose,
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Speaker 1: a little hazy after yesterday.
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Speaker 5: I'm about the I don't know, the fast part maybe
24:26
Speaker 5: is in the loose part. Yeah, right, you know, I
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Speaker 5: have said this a bunch of times and I'll repeat
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Speaker 5: it again. The Constitution is only as good as the
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Speaker 5: people who are in place to uphold it.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
24:39
Speaker 5: And it can be abused, it could be ignored, it
24:42
Speaker 5: can be done all kinds of stuff to it. And
24:46
Speaker 5: it's it really frankly, it's a piece of paper with
24:48
Speaker 5: a bunch of work on it, and we need people
24:51
Speaker 5: who are going to uphold it. There there is no
24:54
Speaker 5: arguing that Trump is acting outside of his limitedations according
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Speaker 5: to the Constitution. I don't really think anybody can argue
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Speaker 5: with it. Yeah, we're all, we're all, I mean, at
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Speaker 5: least the people on the right side of the ledger
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Speaker 5: are like, yeah, blow them guys up, right, But if
25:13
Speaker 5: you're gonna I mean, look, if the if the Democrats
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Speaker 5: get control of Congress, they're going to impeach him. You
25:21
Speaker 5: know they're going to, and this is actually a good
25:26
Speaker 5: reason to do it. How can you argue the stuff
25:28
Speaker 5: they tried to impeach him with, you know before, Oh,
25:32
Speaker 5: come on, that's bs and exactly right, exactly this one. Hey,
25:39
Speaker 5: God him, he's outside of his boundaries. He I mean,
25:45
Speaker 5: there's no there's no arguing it and I, and I'm like,
25:48
Speaker 5: why would you, why would you give them something? Maybe
25:51
Speaker 5: he doesn't care anymore, Well he should care because there's
25:53
Speaker 5: a midterm election coming up. You have to do things,
25:57
Speaker 5: you know, make decisions based on right and wrong, and
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Speaker 5: you have to use moral principles. I believe that's the
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Speaker 5: way you're supposed to make decisions. But you can't forget
26:05
Speaker 5: about the political implications of it. It can't be politics first,
26:09
Speaker 5: but it can also not be don't worry about the
26:11
Speaker 5: politics at all because the rest of us are gonna
26:14
Speaker 5: suffer from this. We're gonna pay the price if enough
26:17
Speaker 5: people turn on Trump and turn on the Republicans and
26:21
Speaker 5: then we go back to Democrat control, We're gonna suffer
26:24
Speaker 5: for it. So come on, yeah, So, so what do
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Speaker 5: we do in the meantime, us unwashed masses? How do
26:29
Speaker 5: we handle this? Well, we have to if we want,
26:32
Speaker 5: let's make it legal. Let's let's put enough people in
26:35
Speaker 5: there who are going to back Trump. Then at least
26:38
Speaker 5: we can say, hey, they all voted on it, and
26:40
Speaker 5: they agreed to it, and they gave him permission. Let's
26:43
Speaker 5: let's whoever it is Trump or whoever it is after that,
26:46
Speaker 5: let's get enough people in there who will agree with
26:49
Speaker 5: our side, and that way we don't have to worry
26:52
Speaker 5: about this garbage. So of course, the best answer for that,
26:55
Speaker 5: the best solution is don't vote Democrat. Have a great day, Brian.
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Speaker 1: Enough people that want to put in a guy who
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Speaker 1: agrees with their side, and let's just say their side
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Speaker 1: is the are the policies of Democrat socialists who would
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Speaker 1: trot upon our constitutionally protected rights in the name of
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Speaker 1: achieving whatever goal they want. That's that's the kind of
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Speaker 1: the danger that I'm talking about. Generally speaking, I want
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Speaker 1: Narco Terra's dead, but I want it done pursuing to
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Speaker 1: a legal authority, even if it's just an authorization to
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Speaker 1: use some military force, which the constitutional purest Brian Thomas
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Speaker 1: would argue isn't even constitutional itself. Nothing in there for
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Speaker 1: that five aout three seven hundred eighty three. Talk Jay,
27:43
Speaker 1: If you want to give me a callback, that's fine.
27:45
Speaker 1: Somebody else that's cool too. Let's get to a stack
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Speaker 1: of stupid story while I have a moment in time
27:49
Speaker 1: and I don't get the hairy eyeball for going over
27:50
Speaker 1: time with Joe. Three people arrested after authorities in what
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Speaker 1: state are we in Florida, specifically the Florida Keys. They
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Speaker 1: filed as this tradition. They were found having sex while
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Speaker 1: heavily intoxicated in a wind Dixie parking lot in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the day that I mentioned it was three people.
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Speaker 1: Debutie's called it the grocery store noontime Saturday, found all
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Speaker 1: three individuals engaged in sexual acts Plural Court of Moreau
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Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office. They were all taken to jail. Sharon
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Speaker 1: hinz Zepplinski forty five, a Marathon, charged with unlawful exposure
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Speaker 1: of sexual organs, disorderly intoxication, and resisting without violence. Debutie
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Speaker 1: said it was her second arrest for similar public conduct
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Speaker 1: over the past three months. Recidivist Marshall Adam Lowry forty three,
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Speaker 1: a Key Largo, charged with committing unnatural lacivious acts and
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Speaker 1: disorderly intoxication. Yeah, I'm speculating on what unnatural lacivious acts
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Speaker 1: means myself. And finally, Michael McDonald Howard fifty nine, a
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Speaker 1: Marathon charged with unl awful exposure of sexual organs and
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Speaker 1: disorderly intoxication. Yeah. The only thing missing from this it's
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Speaker 1: a win Dixie parking lot, not a Walmart. Five forty
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Speaker 1: five fifty five kree E Talks Station. Jimmy care fireplaces though,
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Speaker 1: Jimmy caarefireplates is though the right people think about care
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Speaker 1: ce De Talk Station looking forward to seven oh five
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Speaker 1: Piresman Warren Davidson, followed by Senator John Houstead with his
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Speaker 1: balanced budget constitutional amendment proposal. Let's go to the phones. Cleveland.
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Speaker 1: Al is on the line. Al, welcome back. Good to
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Speaker 1: hear from you this morning.
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Speaker 9: Good morning, Brian, and good morning everyone. Happy that dilated
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Speaker 9: Thanksgiving and hope we all have a blessed Christmas.
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Speaker 1: A man t.
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Speaker 9: Yes, well, I just wanted to touch base and give
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Speaker 9: you a little different perspective. I believe we already have
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Speaker 9: de facto king in the form of the Uniform Party
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Speaker 9: that has been pretty much dictating to us for the
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Speaker 9: last fifty to sixty years. And what I see Donald
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Speaker 9: Trump as is the modern day William Wallace fighting against
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Speaker 9: the tyranny, and he's doing the best he can with
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Speaker 9: the situation that's at hand. So, you know, if we
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Speaker 9: look at it from the perspective of we have abdicated
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Speaker 9: the control by giving it to four hundred and thirty
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Speaker 9: five tyrants that have become a BORG. You know, it's
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Speaker 9: a little less a discomforting given what djt's trying to
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Speaker 9: do at this point, I will leave it at that. Well,
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Speaker 9: fair enough, Yeah, and don't go yeah, don't quote democrat.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough.
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if there were all Republicans there would be
31:11
Speaker 1: it would be different. Maybe they would say, listen, we
31:14
Speaker 1: got to rally around Donald Trump because he's trying to
31:16
Speaker 1: keep drugs out of the country. So at least this,
31:18
Speaker 1: let's pass an authorization for you some military force against
31:20
Speaker 1: narco terrorists that would at least legitimize the thing. But again,
31:24
Speaker 1: you get into the realm of fastor lowis when you
31:26
Speaker 1: are right, whether it's a BORG, a unit party, we
31:30
Speaker 1: we have what I would argue is maybe an abdication
31:34
Speaker 1: perhaps and even intentionally of our representatives and their responsibilities,
31:40
Speaker 1: just because perhaps they know Donald Trump will at least
31:43
Speaker 1: get the job done because of political expedients and ignoring
31:46
Speaker 1: the constitutional reality is how it's supposed to work. And
31:51
Speaker 1: that opens the door for when the Democrats get their
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Speaker 1: guy or gal, as the case may be, in office,
31:58
Speaker 1: for them to do the same thing. Again. This this
32:00
Speaker 1: is not this this this whole quote unquote imperial presidency.
32:03
Speaker 1: If we want to boil it down to that, this
32:06
Speaker 1: isn't a creation of Donald Trump, going back to the
32:08
Speaker 1: whole idea that this conversation has been involved or really
32:11
Speaker 1: sprung from the bombing of boats in Venezuela. What president
32:15
Speaker 1: preceding Donald Trump hasn't done pretty much the same damn
32:18
Speaker 1: thing over and over and over again. The none other
32:21
Speaker 1: hands are cleaned along these lines. The stage, the stage
32:23
Speaker 1: has been set for him to continue doing the same thing.
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Speaker 1: I'm just again more of a purist when it comes
32:32
Speaker 1: to the division and power, of the separation of power
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Speaker 1: and what you know, what is supposed to happen before
32:36
Speaker 1: the bombs start flying. Okay, stack is stupid. We go
32:45
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, specifically KNYE, Georgia, where police have a suspect
32:50
Speaker 1: and custody after a shootout inside a crowded restaurant. When
32:53
Speaker 1: the SWAT had to show up, SWAT team's got to call.
32:56
Speaker 1: Shots fired at Chiquito's Cantina and grill fired shovel shot.
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Speaker 1: Several shots led to customers pulling out their own guns.
33:07
Speaker 1: Please said the gunman fired more shots from outside, but
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Speaker 1: nobody got shot or hurt went back to the restaurant.
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Speaker 1: Bullet holes can be seen in the aftermath in the
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Speaker 1: windows and doors. One of the customers described it as
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Speaker 1: like the OK Corral, saying, boy, these people are crazy.
33:25
Speaker 1: Officers called in the swat team look for the shooter.
33:29
Speaker 1: They surrounded the house less than a mile away. That's
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Speaker 1: where they found him. Walked officers walked three people out
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Speaker 1: of the home. Police confirmed that one of them was
33:37
Speaker 1: in fact the suspect. They haven't released his name yet.
33:41
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty funny because the customers all
33:43
Speaker 1: pulled out their guns. Reminded me of listener lunch. I
33:45
Speaker 1: always say I'm in the safest environment at a listener
33:48
Speaker 1: lunch and thanks every day. He showed up yesterday because
33:51
Speaker 1: while I was consuming beer at listener lunch, ergo it
33:55
Speaker 1: did not have my concealed carry weapon with me because
33:57
Speaker 1: I abide by the law. I know a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of listeners in the room always have their concealed carry
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Speaker 1: weapons with them and they are not consuming alcohol. So
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Speaker 1: you have basically built in protection at a fifty five
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Speaker 1: KRC listener ontch. Thanks to price el Jelly for doing
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Speaker 1: that and real quick here ninety one year old man
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Speaker 1: arrested on suspicion of threatening a police officer and an
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Speaker 1: obstruction of justice after the officer saw him urinating on
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Speaker 1: the street and asked him about it. This why are
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Speaker 1: you doing that well? According to the police, the officer
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Speaker 1: on patrol sowdomn urinating on the street about three in
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Speaker 1: the afternoon on a Monday. Officer asked the men to
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Speaker 1: show some identification. The man became angry, threatened the officer,
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Speaker 1: saying he would knock him out, and then kicked the
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Speaker 1: police car. Arrested for public indecency. This happened in Japan,
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Speaker 1: ninety one years old. Yeah, give him prompts for being
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Speaker 1: feisty even at ninety one five fifty five right now,
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Speaker 1: fifty five KRCD talk station. Let's see if we can
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Speaker 1: muddle through the six o'clock hour. All the help I
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Speaker 1: can get his walk five one, three, seven, four, nine,
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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three
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Speaker 1: talk time five fifty on AT and T phone. Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump doing us all props and getting rid of this
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Speaker 1: stupid arbitrary market force, ruining cafe standards. That more coming
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Speaker 1: up today today, you know fifty five krc D talk
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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, E Brian Thomas right here, welcoming all the
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Speaker 1: phone calls. You want to give me a call and
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Speaker 1: talk about something, feel free to explain to me the
35:35
Speaker 1: crazy constitutional crisis we seem to find ourselves in. Still
35:38
Speaker 1: trying to make sense of it myself, of course, springing
35:40
Speaker 1: from the last hours conversation that sort of sprung from
35:43
Speaker 1: judgment Poulaitano's analysis and others commenting about the legality of
35:47
Speaker 1: or lack there of the blowing up of boats. I
35:50
Speaker 1: think it's a reflection of a broader constitutional crisis we
35:53
Speaker 1: seem to be going through. But coming up one hour
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Speaker 1: from now, in terms of the upcoming guests on the
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Speaker 1: Morning Show, can't wait to get Congress Davidson back on
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Speaker 1: the program. Coming up one hour from now, seven oh five,
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Speaker 1: the Bitcoin for America Act. We'll get to learn together
36:08
Speaker 1: about that one. Maybe you already know about it, but
36:10
Speaker 1: I'm interested in hearing what Congressman Davidson has to say
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Speaker 1: about that. Will also talk healthcare reform and yes on
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Speaker 1: the list of topics with Davidson or Congressman Davidson taking
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Speaker 1: out narco terrorists will get his viewpoint on that one.
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Speaker 1: Senator John Houston talking about his new constitutional amendment behind
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Speaker 1: the well, a balanced budget amendment, talk yesterday with Americans
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Speaker 1: for Prosperity about that. I think it's a great idea,
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Speaker 1: and this is something that has been talked about for decades. Yeah,
36:36
Speaker 1: it's like banning our elected officials from insider trading. They've
36:40
Speaker 1: been talking about that for a long time. They never
36:42
Speaker 1: did vote on that one. But how about a balanced
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Speaker 1: budget amendment? That'd be great. John Houston on that at
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Speaker 1: seven thirty eight oh five with Michael Park documentary the
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Speaker 1: last six hundred meters and then of course it is Thursday,
36:54
Speaker 1: eight thirty means I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe.
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Speaker 1: I love wrapping up a Thursday segue to Friday with
36:59
Speaker 1: Jay Rattlift and a whole bunch of topics. I'll be
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Speaker 1: surprised that we can get them all in, but we'll
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Speaker 1: do our best on that. Some funny ones and some
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Speaker 1: interesting ones is typically the case. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight to two three
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Speaker 1: talk found five fifty on ET and T phones. I'm
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Speaker 1: getting a kind of kick out of this. So we
37:15
Speaker 1: have Donald Trump's announcement about Cafe standard yesterday. Cafe standards
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Speaker 1: started in nineteen seventy five, the Corporate Average Fuel Economy Standards,
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Speaker 1: regulations for the average fuel economy on a fleet of vehicles,
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Speaker 1: with the I guess now aim at lowering vehicle emissions.
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Speaker 1: I think originally it was designed to get better gas
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Speaker 1: knowledge out of automobiles. Remember automobiles in the seventies, Maybe
37:40
Speaker 1: you don't. They were huge, They waited alive. There were
37:43
Speaker 1: trunks that could hold eight ten dead bodies in them
37:46
Speaker 1: if you wanted at least half a dozen sets of
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Speaker 1: golf clubs. But gas got expensive, remember the oil embargo
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Speaker 1: Opak early seventies, lines around the corner. We needed to
37:57
Speaker 1: do something about getting more efficient cars because we were
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Speaker 1: reliant on Middle Eastern oil because I guess technology hadn't
38:07
Speaker 1: caught up. But the whole idea of not drilling was
38:09
Speaker 1: a real neat concept. Let's worry about I don't know,
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Speaker 1: the pollution, the environment. Whatever brought about the refusal to
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Speaker 1: drill and tap into our own resources led to this
38:18
Speaker 1: sort of reliance on Middle Eastern oil, and we've been
38:21
Speaker 1: reliant upon it ever since, but not so much of
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Speaker 1: late Trump's all above strategy. We produce more than anybody now.
38:28
Speaker 1: We have access to oil and resources that we didn't
38:30
Speaker 1: used to have access for. We have an abundance of
38:32
Speaker 1: liquid or natural gas that we have so much of
38:35
Speaker 1: that not only does it run electricity plants that used
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Speaker 1: to run on coal, it also is in such abundance
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Speaker 1: that we export it to other countries who apparently either
38:44
Speaker 1: aren't tapping the resources or don't have the natural resources
38:47
Speaker 1: to tap it themselves. So we're fueling the world with
38:51
Speaker 1: our abundant resources. So what's with the cafe standards?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 1: Why do we need cars that they claim, you know,
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Speaker 1: in defiance of the laws of physics, which maybe need
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Speaker 1: to be repealed, said one idiot behind the scenes environmental
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Speaker 1: regulator writer. But so he makes this announcement yesterday. Car
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Speaker 1: companies are on board. Jim Farley a Ford that's as
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Speaker 1: America's largest auto producer. We appreciate Trump's leadership and aligning
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Speaker 1: fuel economy standards with market realities. We can make real
39:26
Speaker 1: progress on carbon emissions and energy efficiency while still giving
39:29
Speaker 1: consumers choice and affordability. A win for customers and common
39:33
Speaker 1: sense affordability can you afford a new car average new
39:36
Speaker 1: car price fifty thousand dollars fifty now if you don't
39:43
Speaker 1: have fifty grand to buy a new car, if there
39:45
Speaker 1: was a car option available that didn't have bells and
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Speaker 1: whistles on it. I think cars are now mandated to
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Speaker 1: have backup cameras put in them, at great expense to you,
39:56
Speaker 1: the consumer. You have to have one eat a backup camera.
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Speaker 1: Did we survive as a nation without backup cameras up
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Speaker 1: until the most recent moment in time? Were you able
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Speaker 1: to look out the side view mirrors or maybe ratchet
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Speaker 1: your head around and look out the rear window and
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Speaker 1: back your car out successfully? Yes, I know toddlers have
40:16
Speaker 1: been run over by cars. Maybe it's incumbent upon us
40:20
Speaker 1: to perhaps do a walk around our car to make
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Speaker 1: sure there are no obstructions and we know where our
40:24
Speaker 1: children are before we start driving around. There's a thought,
40:27
Speaker 1: that's the way it used to work. Accidents do happen.
40:30
Speaker 1: An accident happens. It's tragic. We need a law, we
40:33
Speaker 1: need a mandate. Let's mandate backup cameras. But there's an
40:36
Speaker 1: abundance of additional options in cars, not options mandates and
40:40
Speaker 1: cars that weren't there originally. You have to have abs breaks. Yes,
40:43
Speaker 1: they're a brilliant technology. Personally, as a consumer, if I
40:47
Speaker 1: was going out to buy a car and I had
40:49
Speaker 1: an option between a car with anti lock breaks without,
40:52
Speaker 1: I would choose the one with I would pay extra
40:55
Speaker 1: to have that amenity. But we survived as a world
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Speaker 1: without those for a long time. Choice is important, especially
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Speaker 1: when it comes to affordability in this unbelievably inflationary world
41:05
Speaker 1: we find ourselves in anyway, as the cafe standards that
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Speaker 1: really impacts the price of a car. Trump's claiming this
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Speaker 1: is going to say the consumer one hundred and eight
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Speaker 1: ten billion dollars. I don't know where the numbers come from.
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Speaker 1: I never do, but random, arbitrary, self inflicted wound they
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Speaker 1: have become. And of course, you know, once this green
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Speaker 1: you know, carbon output nonsense turned into a religion that
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Speaker 1: most people abide by. The push for all electric vehicles
41:34
Speaker 1: came out of this. So cafe standards then became a
41:36
Speaker 1: vehicle to force you into evs, to force manufacturers to
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Speaker 1: build something that the public wasn't demanding. Why because evs
41:45
Speaker 1: don't emit pollution, Well, they do in the manufacturing process,
41:50
Speaker 1: and they do in a whole bunch of other ways.
41:52
Speaker 1: And there's a multitude of reasons why that EV is
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Speaker 1: not as environmentally friendly as they claim it is. But
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Speaker 1: at least it doesn't put out carbon die when you're
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Speaker 1: driving it around. That's the point. A CAFE standard is
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Speaker 1: for an entire fleet, you must achieve fifty miles per
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Speaker 1: gallon across your entire fleet. How do you do that
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Speaker 1: when the consumer demand for trucks is huge, Well, you
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Speaker 1: produce evs even though people don't buy them, and you
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Speaker 1: sell them at a loss That lets you offset, of course,
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Speaker 1: the overall carbon output from your entire fleet, making it
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Speaker 1: look as if you've achieved a random, arbitrary standard announced
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Speaker 1: by the EPA behind the scenes through a regulation subject
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Speaker 1: to change on a whim. Going back to the whole
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Speaker 1: idea of new presidencies mean new rules, Biden increased the
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Speaker 1: CAFE standards after Trump lowered the CAFE standards during his
42:46
Speaker 1: first term. Welcome to Trump term two, lowering the CAFE
42:50
Speaker 1: standards back to something that is at least reasonable and
42:53
Speaker 1: will provide us a greater choice. Wait for it, Donald
42:57
Speaker 1: Trump's presidency will end, and they'll be a new one
43:01
Speaker 1: and a new CAFE standard to say this makes sense, No,
43:06
Speaker 1: it doesn't. But there was another announcement the other day
43:09
Speaker 1: along the lines of these environmental groups groups, there was
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Speaker 1: a letter from a multitude of groups Heartland Institute, Energy
43:16
Speaker 1: and Environmental Legal Institute, Truth in Energy and Climate, and
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Speaker 1: the American Energy Institute, a coalition of what are described
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Speaker 1: as conservative groups representing the energy industry, hailing the regulatory
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Speaker 1: and fiscal wins for the Trump administration. According to Jason
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Speaker 1: Isaac's CEO of one of the groups signing the letter,
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Speaker 1: Hey Secretary Chris Wright has delivered the boldest course correction
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Speaker 1: in modern energy policy, and the results speak for themselves.
43:42
Speaker 1: He has led the largest deregulatory initiative in a Department
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Speaker 1: of energy history, cut billions of wasteful green subsidies important
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Speaker 1: word that word subsidy, and restored a clear path to
43:56
Speaker 1: American energy dominance. He halted dozens of harmful of clients rules,
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Speaker 1: streamline NEPA and EPA, canceled politically driven and I will
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Speaker 1: insert the word Chinese Communist Party benefiting wind, solar and
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Speaker 1: carbon capture spending, reignited us LNG and nuclear development and
44:17
Speaker 1: use emergency authority to keep critical cold capacity online so
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Speaker 1: the grid stays stable when it matters most. What is
44:26
Speaker 1: the goal here for the Trump administration? Stable abundant energy
44:34
Speaker 1: production and output so the lights stay on, reducing the
44:39
Speaker 1: insane regulatory roadblocks for us getting efficient and carbon neutral
44:45
Speaker 1: nuclear power, for example. What's wrong with that? I would argue, nothing,
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Speaker 1: nothing at all. I love this though, according to Tim Donnighie,
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Speaker 1: Green Pieces USA research Director, these policies might be good
45:12
Speaker 1: for Trump and rights rich corporate buddies, but they are
45:17
Speaker 1: downright evil for working people. This is a quote from
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Speaker 1: this Greenpiece guy. The decisions made in the last nine
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Speaker 1: months are literally sucking money out of American's wallets and
45:27
Speaker 1: putting it into oil industry bank accounts while pretending they're
45:31
Speaker 1: making the country stronger. Now, pause for a moment. What's
45:34
Speaker 1: the price of gas right now versus what it was
45:36
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago?
45:37
Speaker 4: Right?
45:37
Speaker 1: A lot lower, a lot lower. I'd say, that's not
45:42
Speaker 1: sucking money from my wallet. It's allowing me to keep
45:45
Speaker 1: more of my money in my wallet. Why abundant above
45:47
Speaker 1: across the board energy policy? He went on to say,
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Speaker 1: the sad thing is the Trump administration policies are creating
45:58
Speaker 1: more pollution that will make America is sick. Every year,
46:02
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand Americans die younger from being
46:05
Speaker 1: exposed to toxic air pollution from burning fossil fuels. We
46:09
Speaker 1: need that number to go down these winds, all but
46:12
Speaker 1: guarantee it will go up. Really, anybody want to ask
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Speaker 1: out loud, where in the hell he pulled three hundred
46:17
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand Americans dead, What specific orifice that figure
46:23
Speaker 1: came from, and what statistics in reality it's based upon. Now,
46:27
Speaker 1: with the advent of a catalytic converter, most of the
46:29
Speaker 1: pollutants that automobiles used to produce aren't there anymore. The
46:33
Speaker 1: whole thing boils down to over and over and over
46:36
Speaker 1: and over again. They point to carbon dioxide, which again
46:40
Speaker 1: I will point out as plant food. It is not
46:42
Speaker 1: a pollutant's naturally occurring part of our atmosphere. Why are
46:45
Speaker 1: we struggling mightily to get rid of it? Because it
46:48
Speaker 1: works for the connected green energy folks. Not only is
46:53
Speaker 1: it bad for our nation's security by taxing the grid
46:57
Speaker 1: that we live on, moving more and more toward electric
47:00
Speaker 1: in the name of this myth of catching all the
47:02
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide makes us less stable, and it rises the
47:06
Speaker 1: price of everything. What are they doing? They're taking your
47:09
Speaker 1: appliances away from you. You can't use natural gas to cook? Really,
47:14
Speaker 1: are you really taking away my natural gas stove? Is
47:18
Speaker 1: going to change the world. No, it's going to make
47:20
Speaker 1: things more expensive. There's been report after report after report
47:23
Speaker 1: after report showing that these moves, and these so called
47:26
Speaker 1: environmentally friendly changes directives issued, the mandates issued by behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes regulatory writers and drafters of rules make it
47:38
Speaker 1: more expensive for you and I to live. Flies right
47:41
Speaker 1: in the face with this Greenpeace guy is saying, give
47:45
Speaker 1: us flexibility, give us choice. That's what this administration is about.
47:50
Speaker 1: And I embrace that all day long, in spite of
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Speaker 1: the criticism I have along certain other line six p
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Speaker 1: nineteen Steve, I'm taking your call as soon as we
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Speaker 1: get back. I want to mention Gate of Heaven Cemetery
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Speaker 1: because tomorrow they're doing a wonderful, wonderful thing. I think
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Speaker 1: my wife and I may even attend. She mentioned she'd
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Speaker 1: and joy for if you have KRCD talk station, Happy Friday.
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Speaker 1: Eve've gonna go straight to the phones given me little
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Speaker 1: amount of time we have in the Segon. Let's see
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Speaker 1: what Steve's got this morning. Steve, thanks for calling. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the show.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely before I get to my point, the three hundred
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Speaker 10: and fifty thousand number, perhaps they the guy dreamed it
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Speaker 10: and had one of those dreams like you had, where
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Speaker 10: he's so convinced it's surreal. Because my thing on on
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Speaker 10: the green movement is where's Pete with these windmills killing?
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Speaker 5: Oh, I've heard millions.
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Speaker 10: Of birds and mac are slaughtered by them, and you
48:43
Speaker 10: don't hear a peep from them, which is amazing. Apparently
48:47
Speaker 10: they don't. But with the Narco boats and it's a
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Speaker 10: gray area. But this, and this is related this guy
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Speaker 10: Mangioni that walked up behind the CEO of the medical
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Speaker 10: firm or insurance company and shot him in the back
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Speaker 10: of the head and it's on camera and they know
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Speaker 10: it was his gun and then you know he's dead.
49:11
Speaker 10: The rights you always hear him described as the alleged killer. Yeah,
49:17
Speaker 10: now now, and I'm gonna ask you a question. I'm
49:20
Speaker 10: serious about this. You had Andrew Napolitano on there yesterday
49:24
Speaker 10: and he said Pete heg Seth is a murderer. He
49:28
Speaker 10: didn't say alleged, you know, And I'm like, you know,
49:32
Speaker 10: be careful there is it?
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Speaker 11: Is it?
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Speaker 10: Because heg Seth is a is not a private individual.
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Speaker 1: That he can say that if if this man's the
49:43
Speaker 1: only guy walked around and admitted that he had blown
49:46
Speaker 1: that guy's head off, the word alleged would not be
49:49
Speaker 1: in the article. The word alleged is in there because
49:51
Speaker 1: in the United States, you are innocent until proven guilty.
49:55
Speaker 1: He hasn't been through the proven guilty part. Now you
49:58
Speaker 1: and I might look at the video and say this
49:59
Speaker 1: is a no brainer. It's open and shut. The jury's
50:01
Speaker 1: going to be out for like five minutes and they'll
50:03
Speaker 1: render a guilty verdict. But in these modern times, when
50:06
Speaker 1: we do have question marks surrounding literally everything that's on
50:09
Speaker 1: video because of artificial intelligence and deep fakes and things
50:13
Speaker 1: of that nature, you got to give him his day
50:15
Speaker 1: in court. If I think the press, in using the
50:17
Speaker 1: word alleged, which happens all the time, is a mechanism
50:20
Speaker 1: to prevent them from being sued, because if you accuse
50:24
Speaker 1: someone of committing a crime, it can be in print libel,
50:28
Speaker 1: per sweat, per se, so if he was found not
50:31
Speaker 1: guilty of murder and you called him a murderer, they
50:34
Speaker 1: might sue you because you've accused him of something that
50:37
Speaker 1: falls into libel per se, meaning it's presumed to be
50:40
Speaker 1: libelists unless the truth, the truth is a defense to
50:47
Speaker 1: the libel per se. So that's just it's just a
50:51
Speaker 1: I've been living with that reality for a long time.
50:53
Speaker 1: You laugh when they say alleged, we all know the
50:55
Speaker 1: guy did it, but give him his day in court
50:57
Speaker 1: and then say murderer.
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Speaker 10: You know what I roll my eyes on. And this
51:01
Speaker 10: happens all the time, is when somebody is described as
51:05
Speaker 10: a gentleman, I mean insantly, And I don't know if
51:09
Speaker 10: these people don't just why don't they just say the
51:12
Speaker 10: man or the individual. I don't, but if you listen,
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Speaker 10: and you'll hear the gentleman, and I'm like, this is
51:19
Speaker 10: this is the polar opposite of what a gentleman would do.
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Speaker 10: One other thing about Napolitano. Yesterday, he indicated that he thought, uh,
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Speaker 10: he didn't really say that. He said Hegseth's time is
51:34
Speaker 10: going to be short. The Secretary of Defense or or whatever,
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Speaker 10: I think he'll be there the entire four years.
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Speaker 1: I'm inclined to agree with you. Listen, he's been on
51:46
Speaker 1: this program now for what more than ten plus years.
51:49
Speaker 1: He's made pronouncements along those lines before, and like Donald
51:53
Speaker 1: Trump is in grave problems with whatever allegation in front
51:57
Speaker 1: of whatever committee was sitting. No, he wasn't. Look he's
52:00
Speaker 1: still around. He didn't get impeached, he didn't get thrown
52:02
Speaker 1: out of office. So wrong on that prediction. I've made
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Speaker 1: erroneous predictions too. I think hag Zeth will be a
52:07
Speaker 1: lot around, a lot longer than judging the Politanus. So
52:10
Speaker 1: we can feel free to disagree with his tea leaf reading.
52:14
Speaker 1: No problem with that. Appreciate the observations. Yeah, alleged murderer
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Speaker 1: until proven guilty. Six twenty seven, Bobby, your next hang
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Speaker 1: on five, one, three seven for nine.
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Speaker 12: K the talk station.
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Speaker 1: Six thirty two fifty five KCD talk station, Happy Friday,
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Speaker 1: Real Quickly, going back to that guy who from green Peace,
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Speaker 1: he said, three undred and fifty thousand people or you know,
52:37
Speaker 1: die from asthma related complications or something like that, so
52:40
Speaker 1: we can't cut the cafe standards. Chip said, well, that
52:44
Speaker 1: figure hasn't changed for a long time. It's globally. Globally,
52:48
Speaker 1: four hundred and sixty one thousand people in the world
52:51
Speaker 1: die from asthma. Like, wait a minute, there's seven plus
52:53
Speaker 1: billion people in the world, and it's a fraction of
52:57
Speaker 1: that four and sixty one thousand people. If you acknowledge
52:59
Speaker 1: it pollution cause the asthma and the complications that resulted
53:03
Speaker 1: in death from asthma, and that it was pollution that
53:05
Speaker 1: did it, I imagine the vast majority of that figure
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Speaker 1: globally lived in countries that are polluted hellholes, not the
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Speaker 1: United States, which is not a polluted hellhole. Bobby, welcome
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Speaker 1: to the program, Thanks for calling this morning.
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Speaker 13: Happy Thursday, Happy Thursday, My brothers, fates, flag, family, and firearms.
53:23
Speaker 13: You keep those who always be able to keep your freedom,
53:26
Speaker 13: one would hope, Well, we had a couple shootings down
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Speaker 13: price Hell and everything, so it's hard to handicap the
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Speaker 13: shootings on Thursdays when the weather it's bad like it is,
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Speaker 13: so they'll have to keep all their activities mostly inside.
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Speaker 4: I guess.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no sports book on number of deaths in
53:44
Speaker 1: any given area as far as I know. Maybe they'll
53:46
Speaker 1: start doing that.
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Speaker 14: We held off on during the holidays, you know, what
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Speaker 14: I'm saying, Thanksgiving and everything.
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Speaker 1: Anything else. Bobby, Hey, well I got one more thing.
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Speaker 14: Cincinnati, they're really progressive. One more thing, one more percent
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Speaker 14: they're going to charge you to spend money in Cincinnati.
54:09
Speaker 14: They're just squeezing and squeezing the poor.
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Speaker 1: People of the city, aren't they Seems to me.
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Speaker 4: You know that extra percent where they go build another
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Speaker 4: hotel or something where nobody.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's each term about the voluntary tax, the
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Speaker 1: one percent voluntary tax. Yeah, within a certain segment within
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Speaker 1: the city. If you're a business, you can voluntarily give
54:31
Speaker 1: a penny on every dollar it's spent at your business
54:33
Speaker 1: to pay for the Marriotte Hotel. Okay, they're already building
54:39
Speaker 1: the damn thing. That's why I said, is this a
54:41
Speaker 1: retroactive way of coming up with the money that they
54:43
Speaker 1: don't have to finance it? How many businesses will voluntarily
54:46
Speaker 1: give up one point of their percentage of profits when
54:50
Speaker 1: businesses such as restaurants barely survive with their typically average
54:54
Speaker 1: five percent profit margin. I don't know that it sounds
54:58
Speaker 1: like a good idea, but clearly that cost is going
54:59
Speaker 1: to be passed along to the consumer. You're gonna get
55:01
Speaker 1: a one penny per dollar order increase, and so that
55:06
Speaker 1: costs will be passed off like all taxes are passed off.
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Speaker 1: So I always say, businesses really don't pay taxes. They
55:12
Speaker 1: just pass that tax along to the end consumer of
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Speaker 1: the good or service that they're selling. That's the reality
55:19
Speaker 1: of it, which is well, yeah, costly to everybody, So
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Speaker 1: go ahead, tax the billionaires will just pass along that
55:24
Speaker 1: tax to you and I for whatever it is they're selling.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Bobby, faith flab fat flat flag and freedom. I
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Speaker 1: kind of agree with you on that. Six thirty five.
55:32
Speaker 1: We can use a little bit more of all that
55:34
Speaker 1: USA installation talking about saving money on energy, burning less
55:37
Speaker 1: carbout KRC detalk station. I'm stuck on these these green
55:44
Speaker 1: groups arguments about Trump's you know, slashing all of the
55:47
Speaker 1: new the green energy crap. Of course, dealt with the
55:51
Speaker 1: Cafe STANERG yesterday, which is a win for everybody. Gives
55:53
Speaker 1: you a choice. You want to buy an evy buy one,
55:56
Speaker 1: you buy an internal question engine, you cold buy one
55:59
Speaker 1: that I have no problem with that take carbon dioxide
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Speaker 1: out of the equation. Now, if you can just give
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Speaker 1: up your religious leanings right now for a moment, and
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Speaker 1: if you take the argument that carbon dioxide's bad. Out
56:13
Speaker 1: of the arguments that are being advanced here, they don't
56:16
Speaker 1: have anything to rely on. And I find it almost
56:21
Speaker 1: it's almost laughable, and that these arguments from the so
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Speaker 1: called green activists can even have any traction whatsoever. Environmental
56:31
Speaker 1: Working Group Bernadette del Ciaro, she's the chairman of this,
56:35
Speaker 1: I guess it's one of these environmental groups who's angry
56:37
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump's efforts to roll back these ridiculous and
56:41
Speaker 1: I would immediately point to inflationary creating green energy products
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Speaker 1: claims to the exact opposite, claiming it's a giveaway to
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Speaker 1: the fossil fuel industry that will result in greater pollution,
56:53
Speaker 1: higher energy costs, and fewer choices for consumers. Now, fewer
56:58
Speaker 1: choices for consumers if you can choose us from let's say, wind,
57:02
Speaker 1: hydro power, solar, gasoline, natural gas, coal, and nuclear, that's seven.
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Speaker 1: Or if you have to go down the green energy
57:11
Speaker 1: folks road, you've get hydro power, you get solar, and
57:16
Speaker 1: you get wind. That's three choices. So let's throw the
57:19
Speaker 1: nonsense out that it's fewer choices for consumers. More choice
57:22
Speaker 1: means lower price, right, because it's the laws of supplying demand.
57:28
Speaker 1: If seven different things can provide you an abundance of
57:31
Speaker 1: energy or at least energy, and you take away five
57:35
Speaker 1: of them or four of them, obviously the price is
57:39
Speaker 1: going to go up. There's only a finite amount of
57:41
Speaker 1: space for windmills and solar anyway. But let's move away
57:44
Speaker 1: from that now. Is it a giveaway to the fossil
57:48
Speaker 1: fuel industry? Same thing, laws of supplying demand. More natural
57:51
Speaker 1: gas and more gasoline generally or oil generally speaking, means
57:55
Speaker 1: less price. Check out. The global price of a barrel
57:58
Speaker 1: of oil when we produce more goes down. When OPEK
58:02
Speaker 1: agrees to increase production, the price tends to go down.
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Speaker 1: How does that benefit OPAK or the fossil fuel industry.
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Speaker 1: The price is lower, That means a profit margin is lower.
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Speaker 1: It's just insane. This del ciarro guy slashing support or
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Speaker 1: woman Bernadette. You never know these days, though, do you.
58:25
Speaker 1: I don't know who Bernadette identifies as, but we'll just
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Speaker 1: say Bernadette. Then, slashing support for wind and solar cripples
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Speaker 1: US leadership in the rapidly expanding clean energy economy. The
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Speaker 1: fictitiously created economy brought about by the claim the carbon
58:43
Speaker 1: dioxide's dangerous to everybody. There would be no wind in
58:47
Speaker 1: solar industry if it wasn't for that nonsense, self inflicted wound.
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Speaker 1: These rollbacks kill jobs, strand private investment, and hand global
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Speaker 1: economic advantage to China, just as the rest of the
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Speaker 1: world races towards cheaper, cleaner and more competitive energy sources. Well,
59:07
Speaker 1: let's wake Ms Bernadette delcherro up again and remind her
59:10
Speaker 1: of what's happened in Europe, who follows her advice and
59:15
Speaker 1: did try to end to the extent it possibly could
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Speaker 1: all carbon dioxide output. Their economy has been ruined headline.
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Speaker 1: Just the other day, I even commented about the article
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Speaker 1: Europe's green energy rush slashed emissions and cripple the economy.
59:33
Speaker 1: Germany's economy has gone into the toilet. Energy prices in
59:36
Speaker 1: Germany are double what we pay. How is it more
59:41
Speaker 1: affordable going down the green energy road? How is it
59:44
Speaker 1: more affordable? The only way it is affordable is when
59:46
Speaker 1: government comes in and offers a subsidy to take away
59:49
Speaker 1: the pain from the policies that they followed. Those subsidies
59:54
Speaker 1: obviously dig their economy into a deeper hole, because well,
59:57
Speaker 1: you're spending a whole ton of money sub pizing the
1:00:01
Speaker 1: energy payers on the tail and to make it look
1:00:04
Speaker 1: like your policies aren't impacting them. But you obviously have
1:00:08
Speaker 1: to cut corners elsewhere in your budget. But you also
1:00:10
Speaker 1: drive companies away that really would like to do business,
1:00:13
Speaker 1: perhaps in Germany where yeah, they had a decent workforce
1:00:16
Speaker 1: up until recently, but you might want to go there.
1:00:18
Speaker 1: But when there are other options in the world, even China,
1:00:21
Speaker 1: where they still burn coal and anything else, they want
1:00:24
Speaker 1: to keep their economy rolling along while laughing at us.
1:00:29
Speaker 1: And that energy industry that this Delchiara person's talking about,
1:00:32
Speaker 1: of course, is the green energy the manufacturers of windmill,
1:00:35
Speaker 1: solar panels and other green related technology that doesn't produce
1:00:38
Speaker 1: carbon or captures carbon, an energy economy that is dominated
1:00:43
Speaker 1: by the Chinese, benefiting our biggest foe out in the world.
1:00:47
Speaker 1: If you want to look at things from an existential
1:00:49
Speaker 1: threat to the United States of America, China be number
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Speaker 1: one again. Take concerns of carbon dioxide out of the equation.
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Speaker 1: They've got nothing at all to stand on six p.
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Speaker 3: the percentage of DO two is in our atmosphere? None
1:02:10
Speaker 3: of them do no, will take a guess. He's either're
1:02:13
Speaker 3: like four percent, six percent, eight percent. He's like, no,
1:02:16
Speaker 3: it's point five. That's up from point four. If it
1:02:20
Speaker 3: gets the point three, plants start dying because that's their food.
1:02:25
Speaker 1: And illustrating the point that I make all the time,
1:02:27
Speaker 1: it's not a pollutant naturally occurring part of our atmosphere
1:02:31
Speaker 1: that literally is responsible for plant life on the in
1:02:35
Speaker 1: the world. It's not. I mean, if plants lived on
1:02:40
Speaker 1: if that's lived on mercury or lead, then we might
1:02:43
Speaker 1: have a real problem, you know, coexisting with plants. Human
1:02:47
Speaker 1: beings maybe weren't meant to exist in an environment like that.
1:02:50
Speaker 1: But CO two doesn't bother you or me, especially such
1:02:53
Speaker 1: low percentages. But boy, the plants are sure damn happy
1:02:56
Speaker 1: that it's there. It's right, that's the insanity all this again,
1:03:01
Speaker 1: I keep going back. If they were talking about eliminating
1:03:03
Speaker 1: mercury or lead or harmful things that are dangerous to
1:03:07
Speaker 1: both plants and humans, that is in you know, you
1:03:09
Speaker 1: can make the argument all day long. We need to
1:03:11
Speaker 1: get rid of that stuff from the environment to the
1:03:12
Speaker 1: extent we can. That's why we don't have leaded gasoline anymore. Hey,
1:03:15
Speaker 1: here's an idea. Let's not put lead in the gas
1:03:18
Speaker 1: that is demonstrably dangerous to the environment, human beings, plants, everybody. Look,
1:03:25
Speaker 1: we eliminated. We still have gasoline, got catalytic converters, wh's
1:03:29
Speaker 1: burned up most of all the balance of the pollutants
1:03:31
Speaker 1: coming out right? Well, okay, Pat, welcome to the show.
1:03:35
Speaker 1: Happy or Happy Friday Eve to you.
1:03:38
Speaker 8: Good morning, mister Thomas. And that it is because I
1:03:41
Speaker 8: don't work tomorrow, so I get to be non productive
1:03:43
Speaker 8: in an employment.
1:03:45
Speaker 4: Good for you.
1:03:46
Speaker 1: Well, I hope you're off tomorrow, not because of your
1:03:48
Speaker 1: loss of a situation, but because it's your day off.
1:03:52
Speaker 8: Well, I actually had extra vacation that needed to be burned.
1:03:55
Speaker 1: Good for you.
1:03:57
Speaker 14: Pat.
1:03:57
Speaker 1: You know what, now that you brought that up, I'm
1:03:58
Speaker 1: taking Monday and Tuesday off for that exact reason. You
1:04:01
Speaker 1: smoke them. If you got them, use them or lose them.
1:04:04
Speaker 1: That's the philosophy at iHeartMedia. So I'm using them rather
1:04:07
Speaker 1: than losing them. Monday and Tuesday.
1:04:10
Speaker 8: You know, exactly, just a real quick During the time
1:04:12
Speaker 8: of the dinosaurs, when there were volcanoes going off everywhere,
1:04:16
Speaker 8: the CO two level and the atmosphere was high, plants
1:04:19
Speaker 8: were giant and so were dinosaurs. So that tells you
1:04:23
Speaker 8: a little bit about CO two. But getting to what
1:04:24
Speaker 8: I really wanted to expound on was politicians are whorees
1:04:29
Speaker 8: because they come in, get elected, get on a committee,
1:04:32
Speaker 8: make money, make stupid laws that don't benefit anybody, but
1:04:36
Speaker 8: somebody paid them to pass legislation that's going to benefit
1:04:40
Speaker 8: a select group, and in the long run, taxpayers end
1:04:44
Speaker 8: up paying for it exclusively, and they don't care. You
1:04:49
Speaker 8: got Warren Davidson's and some other men that are and
1:04:53
Speaker 8: women that stand up, but they're in a minority, and Brian,
1:04:56
Speaker 8: they're fighting, you know, they're fighting up.
1:04:58
Speaker 1: For battle, right. It's an uphill battle. Why because people
1:05:03
Speaker 1: have been convinced that carbon dioxide plant food is bad.
1:05:07
Speaker 1: It's a religion. It's in our children's curriculum, I mean,
1:05:11
Speaker 1: the good They tried to.
1:05:14
Speaker 8: Convince my son of that climate change stuff. It's not
1:05:17
Speaker 8: one volcano pukes out more pollutants than most of humanity
1:05:22
Speaker 8: has in their whole existence. And when you've got seven
1:05:24
Speaker 8: of them going across, going off across the whole world. Uh,
1:05:28
Speaker 8: then you're you're gonna scratch your head and say, we
1:05:31
Speaker 8: need to change our cars. We need to have electric
1:05:33
Speaker 8: cars that you can only grib a couple hundred miles
1:05:36
Speaker 8: if we have to recharge. I said, this is a lie.
1:05:39
Speaker 1: Well, and and you know you're right on the accuracy
1:05:42
Speaker 1: of volcanoes in their carbon production. You're right at wildfires
1:05:45
Speaker 1: do the same thing. But you can take one country,
1:05:48
Speaker 1: China out of the equation. If you eliminated China, you
1:05:51
Speaker 1: would eliminate the vast majority of the world's pollutants. Then
1:05:54
Speaker 1: you have to worry about Turkey and India. But let's
1:05:56
Speaker 1: just deal with China right now, the producer of the
1:05:59
Speaker 1: vast majority of the so called green energy products that
1:06:02
Speaker 1: we're being forced through well regulations and well, this this
1:06:07
Speaker 1: faux religion that our children are being taught. That's why
1:06:09
Speaker 1: we're embracing it. And it helps them while they build
1:06:12
Speaker 1: coal plants and belch out more pollution than we could
1:06:15
Speaker 1: ever hope to belch out in our lifetimes. There is
1:06:18
Speaker 1: that fun fact from Australia. Australia all the carbon emissions
1:06:21
Speaker 1: that they've eliminated the carbon dioxide emissions of Australia's elimited
1:06:25
Speaker 1: are negated by China's production of carbon dioxide through their
1:06:28
Speaker 1: energy like in eleven days. So congratulations, Australia crippled your
1:06:33
Speaker 1: own economy, made energy more expensive, and China just eliminated
1:06:36
Speaker 1: all of your efforts for a year in eleven days.
1:06:39
Speaker 1: How's that working out for everybody?
1:06:41
Speaker 8: I think the disclosure needs to be made. Who pay
1:06:45
Speaker 8: these people to come up with such stupid laws and
1:06:49
Speaker 8: beliefs and then say, hey, you know this is going
1:06:52
Speaker 8: to only benefit or whoever else, And in the meantime,
1:06:56
Speaker 8: the rest of us have to say enough stupidity is enough.
1:06:59
Speaker 8: You're strangling us. But that doesn't matter.
1:07:01
Speaker 1: Well whether whether or not a paycheck as a result,
1:07:04
Speaker 1: Like you know, they're getting paid off to embraces. It's
1:07:08
Speaker 1: useful idiots. Once you convince them that the hockey stick
1:07:12
Speaker 1: or this particular hand picked, hand selected report which says
1:07:17
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide is bad, you convince them of that, they'll
1:07:20
Speaker 1: do anything to go down that road, and they'll keep
1:07:22
Speaker 1: waving it around. Oh my god, the hockey stick. We're
1:07:24
Speaker 1: all gonna die. The globe is going to incre and
1:07:27
Speaker 1: how do they know what the globe temperature is going
1:07:29
Speaker 1: to be one hundred plus years from now. They don't.
1:07:31
Speaker 1: They make it up statistics kind of suggest if we're
1:07:34
Speaker 1: on this direction, we're okay. Just convince somebody of that
1:07:38
Speaker 1: you've already owned them. You don't have to write a
1:07:40
Speaker 1: check for them. You don't have to get some lobbying
1:07:42
Speaker 1: interest to say you need to support this windmill project.
1:07:45
Speaker 1: You already won. They're member of the cult. Six fifty
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Speaker 1: become man, thankfully so a regular that you're on the
1:08:00
Speaker 1: fifty five Cassee Morning Show. Appreciate his willness or come
1:08:02
Speaker 1: on and talk about these really important topics representing and
1:08:06
Speaker 1: proudly doing so the eighth Congressional District from the state
1:08:09
Speaker 1: of Ohio. Congressman Warren Davidson, it is always a pleasure
1:08:12
Speaker 1: having you on the fifty five Carsee Morning Show. And
1:08:14
Speaker 1: welcome back, sir.
1:08:16
Speaker 5: Thank you, Brian.
1:08:17
Speaker 6: It's great to talk with you.
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Speaker 1: And you're gonna have to do a little bit of
1:08:19
Speaker 1: splaining to me. I have have admitted many times over
1:08:23
Speaker 1: the years, the idea of cryptocurrencies like the peace of God.
1:08:27
Speaker 1: It passes all human understanding, at least for Brian Thomas,
1:08:31
Speaker 1: all types of different you know, cryptocurrencies out in the world.
1:08:33
Speaker 1: You've introduced a bill called the Bitcoin for America Act,
1:08:38
Speaker 1: and so I offer you an opportunity to explain why
1:08:41
Speaker 1: this is important. Then maybe you can address some of
1:08:44
Speaker 1: the question marks I have swirling around my ignorance over
1:08:46
Speaker 1: cryptocurrency generally. How's that?
1:08:50
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, bitcoin is the one thing in crypto
1:08:53
Speaker 6: that if you have to name one thing about crypto,
1:08:56
Speaker 6: bitcoin comes up, and it accounts for half of, maybe
1:09:00
Speaker 6: a little more than half of the market share of
1:09:02
Speaker 6: everything known as crypto. And you know it, when I
1:09:07
Speaker 6: first took office, you could buy one bitcoin for about
1:09:10
Speaker 6: five hundred dollars, and in that time, now it's you know,
1:09:14
Speaker 6: I'm approaching one hundred thousand dollars. Again, It's had some
1:09:16
Speaker 6: movement up and down, but it's certainly accumulated value over
1:09:21
Speaker 6: the long, longer.
1:09:22
Speaker 5: Period of time.
1:09:23
Speaker 4: And what does it do.
1:09:25
Speaker 6: It gives you a way to move money at the
1:09:26
Speaker 6: speed of light. So you know, if you want to
1:09:28
Speaker 6: pay cash, well, okay, you get a physically hand the
1:09:31
Speaker 6: cash to somebody. We've been able to move money at
1:09:34
Speaker 6: the speed of light in some ways for a long time.
1:09:37
Speaker 6: That's what credit cards let you do. You can put
1:09:38
Speaker 6: put your credit card in, you can do it on
1:09:40
Speaker 6: the internet. You can save your credit card number in
1:09:42
Speaker 6: your phone and click that and it comes up. So
1:09:46
Speaker 6: you know, hou's bitcoin different than those things. Well, there's
1:09:50
Speaker 6: no corporate headquarters for bitcoin. There's no intermediary that makes money.
1:09:56
Speaker 6: You know, Visa and MasterCard make lots of money for
1:09:59
Speaker 6: this risk. They provide and they make sure that you
1:10:03
Speaker 6: are who you say you are, that you're not buying
1:10:07
Speaker 6: something from somebody who's different than they say they are,
1:10:10
Speaker 6: make sure you have credit. They do all that in
1:10:12
Speaker 6: an instant so the work they do is amazing, but
1:10:14
Speaker 6: they charge for it. Bitcoin lets you do that where
1:10:17
Speaker 6: you could truly hold your own currency. Most people don't
1:10:21
Speaker 6: own it that way.
1:10:22
Speaker 4: Though.
1:10:22
Speaker 6: Most people own bitcoin, you know, kind of the same
1:10:25
Speaker 6: way they would own shares of ge they would have
1:10:27
Speaker 6: a fidelity account or in this case, Coinbase is probably
1:10:31
Speaker 6: the biggest thing people do, but it's essentially like a
1:10:33
Speaker 6: fidelity targeted initially at just buying crypto things. Now virtually
1:10:37
Speaker 6: everybody has the same kinds of service where you know, Fidelity,
1:10:41
Speaker 6: Schwab whatever, you can have an account and buy bitcoin
1:10:44
Speaker 6: or bitcoin ETFs or things like that. So people have
1:10:48
Speaker 6: accumulated all this value in there. It's no secret. I
1:10:51
Speaker 6: don't like the income tax, period. I don't like lots
1:10:54
Speaker 6: of taxes, but you get to tax some things. But
1:10:57
Speaker 6: bitcoin is one of those things where the federal government
1:11:00
Speaker 6: when they would seize this and people say, oh, it's
1:11:02
Speaker 6: used for I listed finance, Well, not in the same
1:11:05
Speaker 6: rate that the dollar is. The dollars used massively more
1:11:07
Speaker 6: for a list of finance. But okay, people have paid
1:11:11
Speaker 6: money with bitcoin that way. We just see fifteen billion
1:11:15
Speaker 6: dollars worth of it from Cambodia and a scam center
1:11:17
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty seven thousand bitcoins, and the government
1:11:22
Speaker 6: was like every agency seizing little pockets of crypto, and
1:11:26
Speaker 6: they were losing control of it. Some would say that
1:11:28
Speaker 6: we're stealing it because if you don't have the keys,
1:11:31
Speaker 6: it's electronic, it can get moved and you know, there's
1:11:35
Speaker 6: no headquarters that will reset your password. You lose the password,
1:11:38
Speaker 6: the money's gone, like losing a pile of cash.
1:11:40
Speaker 5: Right.
1:11:41
Speaker 6: So when Trump came in, he changed that and put
1:11:43
Speaker 6: an executive order saying, hey, we're going to let the
1:11:46
Speaker 6: you know, Secretary of the Treasury set up a thing
1:11:49
Speaker 6: at the Treasury Department where all of the bitcoin from
1:11:52
Speaker 6: the Department of Justice or any other part of the
1:11:54
Speaker 6: government it gets in possession of the federal government. We're
1:11:59
Speaker 6: going to have one central testodium. And he caught it
1:12:02
Speaker 6: a strategic Bitcoin reserve, and he said, hey, look, we're
1:12:04
Speaker 6: going to sell off some of this other stuff that
1:12:06
Speaker 6: nobody really knows what is. Some of it really is
1:12:09
Speaker 6: just a pump and dump scam and needs to be regulated.
1:12:12
Speaker 6: That's what I've tried to do is try to kill
1:12:14
Speaker 6: the pump and dump scams and protect the good stuff.
1:12:17
Speaker 6: And so that's what they wanted to do. But then
1:12:20
Speaker 6: they're like, how do we fund it? Well, there are
1:12:22
Speaker 6: some people that want the tax dollars to go buy bitcoin.
1:12:24
Speaker 6: I don't think that's a great idea, But what about
1:12:27
Speaker 6: people that already have bitcoins just paying taxes with the bitcoin.
1:12:31
Speaker 6: And that's what this bill does. Let's you pay your
1:12:34
Speaker 6: taxes with the bitcoin that goes to the bitcoin reserve.
1:12:38
Speaker 6: And the upside of that is is if you say, well,
1:12:40
Speaker 6: I'm tired of my tax dollars being wasted on xyz,
1:12:43
Speaker 6: and you think those things shouldn't be wasted on. If
1:12:46
Speaker 6: you put it into the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, it doesn't
1:12:49
Speaker 6: even get spent, it gets held. That's what the executive
1:12:52
Speaker 6: order did, So it kindifies the executive order in that sense.
1:12:55
Speaker 1: Well, I always crypto is kind of weird because it's
1:12:58
Speaker 1: always expressed in terms of dollars, which is our fiat currency.
1:13:02
Speaker 1: And yet using bitcoin in little fiat currency seems a
1:13:05
Speaker 1: mechanism to lead toward the demise of the fiat currency
1:13:09
Speaker 1: because it is going to be used as an alternative form.
1:13:11
Speaker 1: As you pointed out, it doesn't. It isn't centralized in
1:13:13
Speaker 1: any given country.
1:13:16
Speaker 4: It is.
1:13:16
Speaker 1: It exists independently and free of you know, any regulatory
1:13:20
Speaker 1: control or government control anyhow. I mean, I like the
1:13:23
Speaker 1: freedom associated with it. But if it becomes a more
1:13:26
Speaker 1: stable form of paying for things, then you moving away
1:13:29
Speaker 1: from the dollar, which has some I would I would think,
1:13:31
Speaker 1: some pretty serious implications for the future of America's fiat currency.
1:13:37
Speaker 6: Well, there are futures. There are serious implications for the
1:13:39
Speaker 6: future of the dollar period. I know that, and that's
1:13:42
Speaker 6: part of what that's part of what the that's part
1:13:44
Speaker 6: of what the logic was for the creators or creator
1:13:48
Speaker 6: of bitcoin a pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. So we don't know
1:13:52
Speaker 6: if there's one person or multiple people, or who did it.
1:13:55
Speaker 6: It's still a mystery. But in two thousand and nine,
1:13:57
Speaker 6: there's this white paper. You can read it at bitcoin
1:13:59
Speaker 6: dot org. It's a short paper, but it explains the
1:14:02
Speaker 6: logic of a permissionless system separated from any government, and
1:14:08
Speaker 6: it establishes trust. It's a different computing architecture, blockchain, So
1:14:12
Speaker 6: you can go way down into this and at the
1:14:15
Speaker 6: end of the day, it's like, well, you can go
1:14:16
Speaker 6: way down into the Internet. You don't need to learn
1:14:18
Speaker 6: that there's a seven layer protocol and how IP addresses
1:14:21
Speaker 6: work and everything to enjoy using the Internet. And you
1:14:24
Speaker 6: don't have to do that to enjoy using bitcoin either
1:14:27
Speaker 6: or other things. But that's the problem, right is we're
1:14:31
Speaker 6: experiencing and affordability like housing. If you own the same
1:14:34
Speaker 6: house that you owned fifteen years ago, it's probably worth
1:14:38
Speaker 6: double what you paid for it fifteen years ago. And
1:14:43
Speaker 6: even if you didn't do anything, you didn't fix anything,
1:14:46
Speaker 6: you got the same water, heat, same furnace, same roof,
1:14:48
Speaker 6: everything and it's worth double.
1:14:50
Speaker 5: You're like, how is that?
1:14:51
Speaker 6: Well, your money got destroyed. We measure things in dollars
1:14:55
Speaker 6: because that's our currency, but the value of it is
1:14:58
Speaker 6: getting crushed. That's what inflation does. And inflation really is
1:15:02
Speaker 6: a tax. I mean, if Congress passed a set of
1:15:04
Speaker 6: laws that said, you know, we're just going to take
1:15:06
Speaker 6: groceries up about thirty percent over the next five years,
1:15:11
Speaker 6: I mean, they would fire everybody. So they didn't do that.
1:15:13
Speaker 6: What they did is they give two trillion dollar death
1:15:16
Speaker 6: sits every year, plus a whole lot of trillions during COVID,
1:15:20
Speaker 6: and it newd the value of your money. It is
1:15:25
Speaker 6: essentially the same kind of tax, but it's even more
1:15:27
Speaker 6: dishonest than a tax in a lot of ways. So
1:15:30
Speaker 6: it's terrible. And look at inflation. If you've got assets,
1:15:33
Speaker 6: if you've got a house already, and you have retirement
1:15:37
Speaker 6: savings and four to one k's and those things, you're
1:15:40
Speaker 6: looking at your portfolio and your value going, well, this
1:15:42
Speaker 6: isn't too bad. But if you're still just like graduating college,
1:15:47
Speaker 6: coming out starting out in life, you can't afford anything
1:15:50
Speaker 6: because you didn't have any assets to get inflated, and
1:15:53
Speaker 6: that's it grows the wealth gap. The money is getting destroyed.
1:15:56
Speaker 6: And because the money was getting destroyed back when they
1:15:58
Speaker 6: were doing quantitative easy in the OITO nine financial crisis,
1:16:03
Speaker 6: that was sort of the inspiration behind bitcoin.
1:16:06
Speaker 1: Understand that and real briefly in terms of you know,
1:16:09
Speaker 1: types of cryptocurrency. I mean, you started out by acknowledging
1:16:11
Speaker 1: Bitcoin is pretty much the first. It's the most widely known,
1:16:14
Speaker 1: obviously the most valuable among all the various cryptocurrencies. But
1:16:18
Speaker 1: that volatility that I've seen in the market. You start
1:16:21
Speaker 1: out it's five hundred dollars. Originally it's one hundred thousand
1:16:24
Speaker 1: dollars now, you know, a month ago, and of course
1:16:26
Speaker 1: I'm using random figures, pulled sphincter from sphincter, but it
1:16:30
Speaker 1: was worth twenty thousand dollars, and then next it jumps
1:16:32
Speaker 1: data fifty thousand dollars. There seems to be so much
1:16:35
Speaker 1: weird volatility in the crypto itself. I guess I kind
1:16:39
Speaker 1: of wonder, how do you what's it worth? I mean,
1:16:41
Speaker 1: is it worth what it's worth the moment you say
1:16:44
Speaker 1: pay your tax bill?
1:16:46
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how That's how would be valued so that
1:16:49
Speaker 6: you know, if you pay your taxes, you know today
1:16:51
Speaker 6: you know view about ninety seven thousand dollars, but if
1:16:54
Speaker 6: you paid it last week, two weeks ago, it would
1:16:56
Speaker 6: have been like eighty seven thousand dollars. So that's the
1:16:58
Speaker 6: kind of volatiley after. Part of that's because we haven't
1:17:02
Speaker 6: created good regulations in the United States, and there's probably
1:17:06
Speaker 6: a fair bit of market manipulation, so you don't have
1:17:07
Speaker 6: the same kinds of controls over this that you would
1:17:10
Speaker 6: on the stock market. But that's led to other innovations
1:17:14
Speaker 6: like stable coins, so those are measured in dollars and
1:17:16
Speaker 6: instead of being backed by nothing but math, they're backed
1:17:20
Speaker 6: by treasury deposits in the bank. Or the one I
1:17:24
Speaker 6: like the most is started by a guy from Cleveland
1:17:26
Speaker 6: to Paxos Gold. So Chad Cascarilla has created this company, Paxos,
1:17:31
Speaker 6: and they've got an ounce of gold and vaults that
1:17:34
Speaker 6: are audited, not a promise to get some gold, but
1:17:37
Speaker 6: real gold sitting in vaults. Unlike Fort Knox, they audit
1:17:40
Speaker 6: it and it's tokenized, so the gold doesn't really move,
1:17:46
Speaker 6: but like I could move, you know, one ounce worth
1:17:48
Speaker 6: of gold to you and it's Essentially, here's permission to
1:17:52
Speaker 6: that ounce the same way that bitcoin works. And so
1:17:55
Speaker 6: you've seen a lot of innovations in the space, and
1:17:57
Speaker 6: that's that's kind of what what drove the craze and crypto.
1:18:02
Speaker 1: Fair enough at seven to sixteen, we're gonna continue to
1:18:04
Speaker 1: find out about healthcare reform and taking out the narco terrorist.
1:18:08
Speaker 1: Was talking about that earlier in the program. I also
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1:18:21
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson. Let's move over to healthcare reform. And I
1:18:23
Speaker 1: don't call maintaining or even subsidizing insurance premiums to mask
1:18:29
Speaker 1: the realities of Obamacare a good idea, because like green subsidies,
1:18:33
Speaker 1: it hides the actual cost and the government ends up
1:18:36
Speaker 1: eating the picking up the tab so premium subsidies, of course,
1:18:40
Speaker 1: that led to the shutdown. Are we back to discussing
1:18:44
Speaker 1: these Congress and Davidson and are we going to lose
1:18:46
Speaker 1: some Republicans to the fear of reality setting in on Obamacare?
1:18:51
Speaker 1: What's going on with this one.
1:18:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, that's exactly right. The subsidies
1:18:58
Speaker 6: they were added during COVID because as they said, well,
1:19:01
Speaker 6: there's going to be a pandemic and it's bad, and
1:19:03
Speaker 6: so we're gonna we're just gonna have to prop up
1:19:06
Speaker 6: health insurance companies so they don't raise everybody's premiums. Well,
1:19:10
Speaker 6: that was a bad idea in the first place. No
1:19:12
Speaker 6: Republicans voted for that idea. And it's like, if you
1:19:15
Speaker 6: were going to send money the hospitals and doctors would
1:19:18
Speaker 6: make sense. They're doing the treating or the patience would
1:19:22
Speaker 6: make sense, right, but why would you give it to
1:19:24
Speaker 6: the middleman? Like that would be like the worst idea,
1:19:27
Speaker 6: And it, as you say, it masks the cost. You
1:19:31
Speaker 6: just keep dumping cash in there. And it's sort of
1:19:34
Speaker 6: like protection money protection from who the insurance companies like, well,
1:19:38
Speaker 6: you know, if you guys pay up, I mean, we
1:19:40
Speaker 6: could hold the rates down a little bit. Their version
1:19:42
Speaker 6: of holding rates down. If you've got an insurance on
1:19:45
Speaker 6: an Obamacare exchange, I guarantee over the past several years
1:19:48
Speaker 6: you haven't gotten well, rates have been under control. You're
1:19:51
Speaker 6: getting double digit increases, you're still getting claims denied, you're
1:19:54
Speaker 6: out of pocket. Max is still there. You're still getting
1:19:57
Speaker 6: ridiculous notifications that oh that was out in now work.
1:20:00
Speaker 4: Is like is it the same building?
1:20:01
Speaker 7: I was in the same room?
1:20:02
Speaker 6: How is it out of network? So all the frustrations
1:20:05
Speaker 6: people have with insurance is still there and we haven't
1:20:09
Speaker 6: fixed it.
1:20:10
Speaker 4: So it's been like, oh no, no, we fixed it.
1:20:11
Speaker 4: We sent the subsidies.
1:20:12
Speaker 6: And that's exactly what will happen if we continue these
1:20:15
Speaker 6: instead of having a debate about how would we fix it?
1:20:18
Speaker 6: And you know, President Trump's done that on drug prices
1:20:21
Speaker 6: for example, he said, and let's do most favored Nation, Like, hey,
1:20:24
Speaker 6: you still own your company, price however you want. But
1:20:27
Speaker 6: if you'll sell th Zimpic to London for you know,
1:20:32
Speaker 6: eighty bucks, you can't charge an American eight hundred bucks.
1:20:36
Speaker 6: So whatever you sell it for the best price in
1:20:39
Speaker 6: the world is in America. You can have higher prices
1:20:42
Speaker 6: in other countries. That's up to other countries. But if
1:20:45
Speaker 6: you sell it for one hundred bucks somewhere, you're selling
1:20:48
Speaker 6: it for one hundred bucks in America. And I honestly
1:20:50
Speaker 6: think that would be great if we did it. For
1:20:52
Speaker 6: all things, like you get your bill, and it always says,
1:20:55
Speaker 6: you know, well it's ten thousand dollars, but since you
1:20:57
Speaker 6: have you know, Anthem or United or whatever, well one
1:21:01
Speaker 6: thousand dollars, right, And you know it's a made up
1:21:04
Speaker 6: number for made up procedure or whatever. But you know
1:21:06
Speaker 6: everyone's seen these explanation of benefits. The reality is, if
1:21:10
Speaker 6: you work at Procter and Gamble, you've got great health
1:21:13
Speaker 6: care coverage and PNG has a huge workforce and rightly
1:21:17
Speaker 6: has a lot of buying power. But if you work
1:21:19
Speaker 6: at a small business and you got twenty employees and
1:21:21
Speaker 6: one of the employees gets cancer, they're trying to spread
1:21:24
Speaker 6: that cost and risk over twenty people instead of the
1:21:26
Speaker 6: whole state of Ohio. So if you had the hospital
1:21:30
Speaker 6: provider saying, look, we charge you know, a thousand bucks,
1:21:33
Speaker 6: whether you're paying cash, whether you work at a small
1:21:36
Speaker 6: business with twenty people or you work at a big
1:21:38
Speaker 6: business with two hundred thousand. Around the world, this is
1:21:42
Speaker 6: the price, same price, whether you've got insurance or you
1:21:45
Speaker 6: don't have insurance, whether it's this insurance or that insurance,
1:21:48
Speaker 6: all the insurance companies, we sell it to you for
1:21:50
Speaker 6: one thousand dollars, and you could pick your own price,
1:21:53
Speaker 6: but it would be fair if you had a functioning market.
1:21:57
Speaker 6: That's what would happen in a functioning market. That's the
1:21:58
Speaker 6: way gas prices work, right. It's not like one guy's
1:22:01
Speaker 6: going to get, you know, three bucks for a gallon
1:22:04
Speaker 6: and the guy next door is going to get four
1:22:06
Speaker 6: bucks for a gallon. It's going to quickly price it
1:22:08
Speaker 6: pretty close to three bucks. And it's not that you
1:22:11
Speaker 6: get charged a different price because you pulled up in
1:22:13
Speaker 6: a Buick and this other guy pulled up in a
1:22:15
Speaker 6: Toyota exactly.
1:22:16
Speaker 9: You know.
1:22:16
Speaker 6: So this is the way healthcare is broken because it
1:22:19
Speaker 6: doesn't have real market forces. And so if we're not
1:22:22
Speaker 6: going to do real market forces, we should try to
1:22:24
Speaker 6: replicate it. And then lastly, what President Trump said is, look,
1:22:28
Speaker 6: you should send the money to the person. You know,
1:22:30
Speaker 6: we do it for food stamps, for example. We don't
1:22:32
Speaker 6: send the money to Kroger. We send the money to
1:22:34
Speaker 6: the person and they buy what they want. And they've
1:22:38
Speaker 6: made it legal to buy what you want, so you
1:22:40
Speaker 6: can't select and pick on your health insurance plans. They've
1:22:44
Speaker 6: prescribed a set of every plan has to cover X,
1:22:48
Speaker 6: y Z, and that rose prices because it said every
1:22:52
Speaker 6: plan has to have all these features on it. Some
1:22:54
Speaker 6: people don't want to need those features, and they made
1:22:57
Speaker 6: it illegal to buy such a product.
1:22:59
Speaker 1: Well, okay, Currently there is a Democratic proposal to extend
1:23:02
Speaker 1: the healthcare insurance premium subsidies, and that's the one that
1:23:05
Speaker 1: we're going to be I guess voting on upcoming. Whether
1:23:08
Speaker 1: or not you get Republicans capitulating to that insanity remains
1:23:11
Speaker 1: to be seen. But is there currently an alternative along
1:23:15
Speaker 1: the lines of the market force proposal you just suggested
1:23:17
Speaker 1: of the Trump suggestion about letting the dollars go to
1:23:20
Speaker 1: the individual as opposed to the healthcare companies. Have we
1:23:22
Speaker 1: got something like that teed up and ready to go
1:23:24
Speaker 1: as a foil to just continuing this nonsense of subsidies.
1:23:30
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what they're working on. So there will be
1:23:33
Speaker 6: a vote in the Senate, because that was the deal
1:23:35
Speaker 6: that you know, soon reached with Schumer to get the
1:23:40
Speaker 6: vote to reopen the government. Right, But we didn't agree
1:23:43
Speaker 6: to anything in the House. Right And you know, frankly
1:23:45
Speaker 6: for Speaker Johnson, generally the rule is if you can't
1:23:48
Speaker 6: get fifty percent of Republicans, you're not supposed to put
1:23:51
Speaker 6: it on the floor, And I don't think there's any
1:23:53
Speaker 6: chance that he could get fifty percent of Republicans to
1:23:55
Speaker 6: agree to this idea of just status quo funding for
1:23:59
Speaker 6: Obama Care. Now they might put it in there in
1:24:03
Speaker 6: exchange for market reforms, like okay, Well it'll take a
1:24:06
Speaker 6: little bit for these to get implemented. So we'll do
1:24:09
Speaker 6: another year, maybe two years on the outside of some
1:24:13
Speaker 6: status quo kind of subsidies. But we're pivoting towards this
1:24:17
Speaker 6: more market oriented approach over the next year, maybe over
1:24:20
Speaker 6: the next two years. So those are the kinds of things.
1:24:22
Speaker 6: There have been lots of bills for Republicans, we just
1:24:24
Speaker 6: haven't put.
1:24:25
Speaker 5: Them into one.
1:24:25
Speaker 6: So what I mentioned to you in that little dialogue,
1:24:28
Speaker 6: there is probably three or four bills of ideas. So
1:24:32
Speaker 6: we're trying to pick those right now, saying what is
1:24:35
Speaker 6: going to be the package, how would they interoperate with
1:24:38
Speaker 6: each other, and can we get that to the floor.
1:24:40
Speaker 4: Can we do it before Christmas?
1:24:42
Speaker 6: So those are the kinds of things that are going on,
1:24:44
Speaker 6: you know, back channel right now in order to hopefully
1:24:47
Speaker 6: a good vote on the floor.
1:24:49
Speaker 1: Well, we can wait to see what happens, and I
1:24:51
Speaker 1: can only anticipate what's going to happen in the Senate.
1:24:54
Speaker 1: It's going to ruin the concept, will undermine the Democrats,
1:24:57
Speaker 1: you know, dream of medicaid for all, which is of
1:25:01
Speaker 1: course Obamacare's the vehicle to bring that reality about. So
1:25:05
Speaker 1: ain't going to be smooth sailing regardless, I believe, Congressman
1:25:08
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson. But we'll all be waiting with a popcorn
1:25:10
Speaker 1: out and wish you the best of luck and bringing
1:25:12
Speaker 1: about some more sense to them that problem we have
1:25:15
Speaker 1: with healthcare coverage these days. Congressman Warren Davidson, I thank
1:25:19
Speaker 1: you so much for joining the program and appreciate your
1:25:21
Speaker 1: willingness to come on talk about these issues. I'll look
1:25:23
Speaker 1: forward to another conversation. Have a wonderful, wonderful week between
1:25:27
Speaker 1: now and our next talk.
1:25:29
Speaker 6: Yeah you as well, Brand always an honor. God bless
1:25:31
Speaker 6: you and all your listeners.
1:25:32
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Seven twenty eight. Right now we're hearing
1:25:34
Speaker 1: from Senator John Hey's Ryan Thomas welcoming back to the
1:25:36
Speaker 1: fifty five Cassey Morning Show. And what a great idea
1:25:39
Speaker 1: he's got. Senator John Houston, who is introduced. Oh my god,
1:25:43
Speaker 1: I've been dreaming about this my entire political life. A
1:25:46
Speaker 1: balanced budget amendment. Welcome back, Senator Houston. It's great having
1:25:49
Speaker 1: you on. I had a conversation the other day with
1:25:53
Speaker 1: I think it was vv. Ramaswamy or I can't remember
1:25:57
Speaker 1: specifically who I know Donovan and Neil from a Americans
1:26:00
Speaker 1: for Prosperity, And I said, you know, Donovan, I my
1:26:03
Speaker 1: entire political life, which began maybe when I was around
1:26:06
Speaker 1: a junior in high school or something, I've been dreaming
1:26:09
Speaker 1: of a balanced budget amendment. It sounds so common sense.
1:26:11
Speaker 1: We have to run our households on a balanced budget,
1:26:14
Speaker 1: at least most of us who were financially prudent. Anyway,
1:26:16
Speaker 1: How can you argue with this? How could this possibly
1:26:19
Speaker 1: bear a political stripe? It sound finance? Does this one
1:26:23
Speaker 1: have any hope because this kind of thing's been tried
1:26:25
Speaker 1: over and over again.
1:26:27
Speaker 12: So I think so, like I think so because so
1:26:31
Speaker 12: So let me just set the stage here because this
1:26:34
Speaker 12: is my you know, I worked in state government. In
1:26:36
Speaker 12: state government, we had to balance the budget. So your
1:26:39
Speaker 12: mentality going into the budget process when you work in
1:26:42
Speaker 12: state government is okay, it's got to add up, it's
1:26:45
Speaker 12: got a balance, right like that. You just you don't
1:26:47
Speaker 12: even have the concept that that's not going to happen.
1:26:50
Speaker 12: But at the federal level, because it doesn't have to happen,
1:26:53
Speaker 12: no one even thinks about what the consequences are of
1:26:57
Speaker 12: overspending because it's just what they do. And after spending
1:27:02
Speaker 12: a little time here now, I realized that that it's
1:27:04
Speaker 12: not going to get fixed until we force a solution.
1:27:09
Speaker 12: And so the balanced budget amendment that I'm working on
1:27:13
Speaker 12: proposed is not something where it says, hey, you pass
1:27:17
Speaker 12: this and then the next year it's going to be
1:27:18
Speaker 12: balanced and we're going to We're going to have ten
1:27:20
Speaker 12: years to get there, right, You got to You've got
1:27:22
Speaker 12: to get there over time, because there's no way you
1:27:25
Speaker 12: can get the votes for this if you don't phase
1:27:27
Speaker 12: it in. But I also know this that I've talked
1:27:31
Speaker 12: to many people in my life who have said I'm
1:27:33
Speaker 12: willing to do with I'm willing to take less from
1:27:37
Speaker 12: the government, I'm willing to give more to the government,
1:27:39
Speaker 12: but they don't trust the fact that it will actually
1:27:44
Speaker 12: do anything because we're not forced to have a balanced budget.
1:27:47
Speaker 12: So if you want to get people to make the
1:27:49
Speaker 12: sacrifices necessary, you have to prove to them that you
1:27:54
Speaker 12: will do you will act responsibly, and the only way
1:27:57
Speaker 12: you can prove it is with a constitutional amendment.
1:28:00
Speaker 1: Well, it's save me from myself, because you know the
1:28:03
Speaker 1: promises of fiscal responsibility. We've been hearing that for years
1:28:06
Speaker 1: and on both sides of the Ledger, more so from
1:28:09
Speaker 1: the Republican side, because it's been typically been part of
1:28:12
Speaker 1: the Republican platform to engage in fiscal responsibility. And yet
1:28:16
Speaker 1: we get stabbed in the back by the very Republicans
1:28:18
Speaker 1: who articulate and argue about fiscal responsibility when they bring
1:28:22
Speaker 1: back the projects to their state, when they get an
1:28:25
Speaker 1: opportunity to do so, which is not necessarily fiscally responsible.
1:28:30
Speaker 12: It is exactly right, but nobody's forced to do it.
1:28:34
Speaker 4: Like you.
1:28:35
Speaker 12: If you could eat as much as you want, and
1:28:38
Speaker 12: you know then you eat as much as you want,
1:28:40
Speaker 12: you would never reck if you didn't have to exercise
1:28:42
Speaker 12: to be healthy. If you could eat as much as
1:28:44
Speaker 12: you want, you do it like But in government at
1:28:47
Speaker 12: the federal level that there's no discipline, there's no mechanism
1:28:51
Speaker 12: to force the discipline, and without it, eventually the discipline
1:28:56
Speaker 12: will come when people will no longer allow us to
1:28:59
Speaker 12: borrow money, or they'll jack up the rates that you
1:29:02
Speaker 12: have that you're gonna have to pay to borrow money,
1:29:05
Speaker 12: and that'll be a catastrophe. Then that will be a crisis. Actually,
1:29:09
Speaker 12: the balanced budget amendment I'm proposing is the easy way.
1:29:13
Speaker 12: The hard way will come when we eventually can no
1:29:16
Speaker 12: longer borrow money, and then it will be catastrophic. The change,
1:29:20
Speaker 12: the rate of change will be catastrophic to people. They
1:29:23
Speaker 12: won't be able to adjust it. What I'm proposing as
1:29:26
Speaker 12: a phase in.
1:29:26
Speaker 1: Well, that phase in that glide path, as it's quite
1:29:29
Speaker 1: often referred to, is not tearing the band aid off.
1:29:33
Speaker 1: You don't have to experience immediate pain. But you're exactly right.
1:29:36
Speaker 1: Their failure to engage in fiscal responsibility is bringing about
1:29:40
Speaker 1: that very crisis. We won't have creditors anymore. The Fiat
1:29:44
Speaker 1: currency runs in jeopardy of becoming worthless and valueless, like
1:29:48
Speaker 1: it has in so many other countries that have run
1:29:50
Speaker 1: down this road and just run the printing press thinking
1:29:53
Speaker 1: it's gonna work out and everybody's gonna be fine. No,
1:29:55
Speaker 1: you need a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a
1:29:57
Speaker 1: loaf of bread. How many times does that happen? And
1:29:59
Speaker 1: yet it seems that everybody just ignores that painful, obvious reality.
1:30:03
Speaker 1: I mean, we do not have a lock on the
1:30:07
Speaker 1: default currency, with crypto out there and other currencies maybe
1:30:11
Speaker 1: perhaps more financially managed better, maybe backed by something by
1:30:14
Speaker 1: goal like gold or something. I don't know, but we've
1:30:17
Speaker 1: just been blindly relying on that this is going to
1:30:20
Speaker 1: go on into perpetuity when it clearly cannot.
1:30:23
Speaker 12: Yeah, and you know, as in preparation for this, I've
1:30:27
Speaker 12: looked at how hard this will be to do. Do
1:30:31
Speaker 12: you know that they're other than China? There's not another
1:30:34
Speaker 12: So let me back up. We have over a trillion
1:30:36
Speaker 12: dollars in interest payments a year in the United States
1:30:39
Speaker 12: on our national debt. Thirty eight trillion trillion dollars a
1:30:43
Speaker 12: year more than that go to interest in the national debt.
1:30:45
Speaker 12: You know, there are only two countries in the world
1:30:47
Speaker 12: who have a budget over trillion dollars, that's the United
1:30:50
Speaker 12: States and China. Put in context the size of the
1:30:53
Speaker 12: problem that we have. And you know, people on the
1:30:56
Speaker 12: left have said, well, we just need to tax the billionaires, right.
1:31:00
Speaker 12: Do you know if you confiscated all the money of
1:31:03
Speaker 12: every billionaire in America, you still have a national debt
1:31:06
Speaker 12: that's over thirty trillion dollars and then nobody to tax
1:31:09
Speaker 12: for your free grocery stores. I mean, seriously, this is
1:31:12
Speaker 12: a problem that we have to, you know, treat with
1:31:16
Speaker 12: the urgency it deserves.
1:31:17
Speaker 1: Well, you get one bite at the apple with a confiscatory,
1:31:20
Speaker 1: with a tax like that, because if you acquire and
1:31:23
Speaker 1: take all of the billionaire's assets one year, they're not
1:31:26
Speaker 1: going to be around next year to make any more money.
1:31:29
Speaker 12: But I'm just trying to use it as an it's
1:31:33
Speaker 12: a well taken point. This is not going to You're
1:31:36
Speaker 12: not going to get there just by taxing the rich.
1:31:39
Speaker 12: You can't even come close to paying off the debt
1:31:42
Speaker 12: by taxing them by confiscating all their money. So it's
1:31:46
Speaker 12: it's just it's just it's time we got to do this.
1:31:50
Speaker 1: And as so many other Western nations are learning, you
1:31:52
Speaker 1: go ahead and go down that path. The rich figure
1:31:54
Speaker 1: out a way to leave the jurisdiction and take their
1:31:57
Speaker 1: money and go elsewhere. Now, the one opponent of this,
1:32:00
Speaker 1: it's balance the budget check, no problem, reasonable glide path
1:32:04
Speaker 1: to reach the balance check. We've talked about that A
1:32:06
Speaker 1: little bit concern I have, and I think you can
1:32:09
Speaker 1: understand why I have it is the accept in emergencies part.
1:32:13
Speaker 1: And I can see, you know, our elected officials figuring
1:32:16
Speaker 1: out ninety zillion ways why every year we find ourselves
1:32:19
Speaker 1: in an emergency? What's the check on that political concern?
1:32:25
Speaker 12: Well, it's it's a it's a two thirds majority, which means,
1:32:28
Speaker 12: you know, that's a huge number to get to to break.
1:32:33
Speaker 12: I mean, you would have to be a true emergency
1:32:36
Speaker 12: to be able to get something like that done, meaning
1:32:38
Speaker 12: like we were in a world war or something along
1:32:41
Speaker 12: those lines. But you know, look, there has to be
1:32:44
Speaker 12: some mechanism. Sure, because I'm I'm trying to live in
1:32:47
Speaker 12: the world of pragmatism, right of like what can I do?
1:32:51
Speaker 12: How can I how can I be behind a balance
1:32:53
Speaker 12: budgetmendment that I have a chance of actually getting passed?
1:32:56
Speaker 12: And so that's why the glide passed. That's why. That's
1:32:59
Speaker 12: why because you know what someone will say, well, what
1:33:01
Speaker 12: about what about if we go to war? What if
1:33:03
Speaker 12: there's a you know, a huge natural disaster and we
1:33:07
Speaker 12: need to have more money, you know, and we have
1:33:09
Speaker 12: to borrow temporarily, Well, then that you have a trigger
1:33:12
Speaker 12: mechanism to do that. But it's a two thirds majority,
1:33:16
Speaker 12: It's a huge number.
1:33:17
Speaker 1: To try to get to and of course, since we're
1:33:19
Speaker 1: talking about a constitutional amendment here, which will give it
1:33:23
Speaker 1: the strength and the teeth that would need absence some
1:33:25
Speaker 1: subsequent Supreme Court finding otherwise. But anyway, let's assume it
1:33:28
Speaker 1: gets past, you have to have it ratified by the states.
1:33:31
Speaker 1: Is there enough will out there among the states, Because
1:33:34
Speaker 1: when I view this whole concept, you've dealt with the
1:33:37
Speaker 1: concerns about the band Aid, ripping off of the liivepath
1:33:39
Speaker 1: and all that, it sounds logical, it sounds reasonable, and
1:33:41
Speaker 1: I can't believe fiscal responsibility at least taking only spending
1:33:46
Speaker 1: what you take in has a political stripe. So what
1:33:49
Speaker 1: do you anticipate being the biggest argument you're going to
1:33:51
Speaker 1: face in terms of selling this to everyone? Let me
1:33:55
Speaker 1: just say, what are the Democrats going to say in
1:33:57
Speaker 1: opposition to this, assuming it goes down the traditional political course.
1:34:01
Speaker 12: Well, you know, they'll have a lot of different things
1:34:06
Speaker 12: that they'll say about it. But what I believe, Look,
1:34:09
Speaker 12: I don't You've made a really good point, like this
1:34:12
Speaker 12: has been tried, it's not happened. But I do I
1:34:15
Speaker 12: do believe that that now we're getting closed, Like I
1:34:19
Speaker 12: don't know when it's going to be, Brian, I don't
1:34:20
Speaker 12: know if it's going to be in two years, five years,
1:34:22
Speaker 12: ten years. But if we don't change our spending habits,
1:34:25
Speaker 12: like there is a day not too and then not
1:34:28
Speaker 12: too distant future where people won't loan us money anymore, right,
1:34:32
Speaker 12: Like they won't buy our debt because they can't trust
1:34:36
Speaker 12: that we'll actually be able to pay it off. So
1:34:38
Speaker 12: I think that the convergence of those events, because nobody's
1:34:45
Speaker 12: going to trust to the government to if you ask
1:34:49
Speaker 12: them to make a sacrifice, and you don't have a
1:34:52
Speaker 12: mechanism like a constitutional amendment forcing the discipline, I don't
1:34:56
Speaker 12: think that you'll get people to make those sacrifices. So
1:34:58
Speaker 12: I think that there's a chance that the States will
1:35:01
Speaker 12: recognize this day of reckoning and the voters of this
1:35:05
Speaker 12: country will vote to approve it. I just believe that
1:35:09
Speaker 12: that the convergence of events are going to allow for
1:35:11
Speaker 12: something like that to happen in the next in the
1:35:14
Speaker 12: next few years.
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Speaker 1: Well, when asked as an isolated question, do you believe
1:35:17
Speaker 1: in the concept of a balanced budget amendment or mandating
1:35:20
Speaker 1: fice corresponsibility, I think most people agree percentage wise sixty
1:35:23
Speaker 1: seventy percent of American so it's a sellable point. It's
1:35:26
Speaker 1: the responsible thing to do. I can only pray that
1:35:29
Speaker 1: this goes forward. And I want to thank you on
1:35:30
Speaker 1: behalf of the listeners and everybody else who is concerned
1:35:32
Speaker 1: about what you're concerned about, for bringing forward the balanced
1:35:34
Speaker 1: budget amendment. We'll talk about it again in the future
1:35:36
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1:35:43
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1:35:46
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Speaker 1: two three found five fifty on eighteen t Funds So
1:36:18
Speaker 1: I mentioned date of Eavan. I was thinking of the
1:36:19
Speaker 1: Nativity scene article that I ran into. And there are
1:36:22
Speaker 1: many moments of time in this segment, apps and calls
1:36:24
Speaker 1: before we get to my next guest after the top
1:36:27
Speaker 1: of the hour news Michael Parks got a documentary The
1:36:30
Speaker 1: Last six hundred Meters, which honors US soldiers who fought
1:36:34
Speaker 1: and died in the Iraq War. That should be an
1:36:37
Speaker 1: interesting conversation with Michael, followed by Jay Ratliffe. But this
1:36:41
Speaker 1: church and Nativity scene controversy, I think the folks involved
1:36:46
Speaker 1: kind of missed the point to a certain extent. It's
1:36:50
Speaker 1: Saint Susannah. It's a Catholic church in Boston. Outside of Boston.
1:36:54
Speaker 1: They put a Nativity scene outside an empty manger, no Jesus,
1:37:01
Speaker 1: with a sign that says Ice was here, Okay. Father
1:37:07
Speaker 1: Stephen Josoma, pastor there, said the church's Peace and Justice
1:37:11
Speaker 1: Group organize the display. They said they try to see
1:37:14
Speaker 1: what it would be like if Christ was born into
1:37:17
Speaker 1: the context of the world today, what would he be
1:37:20
Speaker 1: facing And apparently in the minds of the Saint Suzannah folks,
1:37:23
Speaker 1: he would be facing, I don't know, arrest by ice officers. Now,
1:37:28
Speaker 1: can anybody provide me with a reasonable justification for an
1:37:32
Speaker 1: ice officer? I mean, assuming that Jesus was born in
1:37:34
Speaker 1: modern times for being picked up and arrested. Apparently they
1:37:39
Speaker 1: left the magi and Joseph and Mary sitting there, but
1:37:42
Speaker 1: they took the baby. Don't know how they get there.
1:37:46
Speaker 1: Josoma said, it's religious art. It's designed to evoke emotions
1:37:51
Speaker 1: in people. He said, it's supposed to affect people deeply.
1:37:54
Speaker 1: It's supposed to move people. It's supposed to change people.
1:37:56
Speaker 1: So if this evokes a strong reaction, it may be
1:37:59
Speaker 1: good to take a look at that.
1:38:01
Speaker 12: Now.
1:38:01
Speaker 1: There was another church which added to my confusion on
1:38:03
Speaker 1: this one. In Illinois. Church displayed a major scene featuring
1:38:09
Speaker 1: the baby Jesus, hands zip tied together, and gas masks
1:38:14
Speaker 1: on Mary and Joseph. Church said the display reimagines the
1:38:18
Speaker 1: Nativity as a scene of forced family separation. Associate minister
1:38:25
Speaker 1: at the Lake Street Church, Evanston Jillian Westerfeld, speaking with
1:38:28
Speaker 1: Fox News, said the church felt the imagery resonates with
1:38:31
Speaker 1: the current time in the story of Jesus' birth. Quote
1:38:36
Speaker 1: this installation is not subtle because the crisis it addresses
1:38:39
Speaker 1: is not abstract. The Holy Family were refugees. By witnessing
1:38:45
Speaker 1: this familiar story through the reality faced by migrants today,
1:38:48
Speaker 1: we hope to restore its radical edge and to ask
1:38:51
Speaker 1: what it means to celebrate the birth of a refugee
1:38:54
Speaker 1: child well turning away those who follow the child's footsteps. Now,
1:38:58
Speaker 1: no theologian am I. I made that point profoundly clear
1:39:04
Speaker 1: over my time on radio. But as I recall and
1:39:08
Speaker 1: I understand, why were marying Joseph in Bethlehem? Were they refugees?
1:39:15
Speaker 1: Did they sneak into Bethlehem without authorization?
1:39:18
Speaker 4: No?
1:39:19
Speaker 1: Caesar Augustus ordered a Roman census and forced people to
1:39:22
Speaker 1: go back to their hometowns to get registered. Joseph from
1:39:27
Speaker 1: the lineage of David. He had to travel from his
1:39:30
Speaker 1: home in Nazareth, where he lived where he was working,
1:39:35
Speaker 1: to go to Bethlehem for the purposes of government regulation,
1:39:42
Speaker 1: and because the ends were full, because everybody else showed
1:39:44
Speaker 1: up from out of town. That's why he ended up
1:39:45
Speaker 1: having to Mary to give birth in the manger right.
1:39:49
Speaker 1: This census decree probably would have gotten locked up by
1:39:53
Speaker 1: the Romans had he stayed in Nazareth. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
1:39:57
Speaker 1: you're you're from the house today. You're supposed to be
1:40:00
Speaker 1: in Nazareth getting registered. How come you're you're supposed to
1:40:03
Speaker 1: be in uh, in Bethlehem getting registered? How come you're
1:40:05
Speaker 1: here in Nazareth. Now, under those circumstances, his act of
1:40:09
Speaker 1: defiance against the Roman emperor may have gotten him locked up.
1:40:13
Speaker 1: That's where the reality would set in. You defied the
1:40:17
Speaker 1: government decree. You didn't leave where you lived and go
1:40:20
Speaker 1: to the place where you came from. This is a
1:40:23
Speaker 1: batcrap insanity, and it's Christmas time, right, It's isn't it
1:40:32
Speaker 1: supposed to be? At least you know?
1:40:34
Speaker 9: Uh?
1:40:34
Speaker 1: Going back to my peanuts nineteen sixty five, Charlie Bound Christmas.
1:40:38
Speaker 1: What's it all about? Listen to Linus make the speech.
1:40:41
Speaker 1: I think he quotes the Gospel of Luke. What's the point.
1:40:46
Speaker 1: It's the birth of what many people of faith believe
1:40:50
Speaker 1: to be the Savior. That's why you celebrate Christmas. But
1:40:57
Speaker 1: I like the idea of looking at it him getting
1:40:59
Speaker 1: a way or them getting arrested. Had they not left
1:41:02
Speaker 1: where they lived and had not gone to Bethlehem to
1:41:05
Speaker 1: get registered. You know what I don't believe in the census.
1:41:09
Speaker 1: I don't want to be counted. They were going to
1:41:12
Speaker 1: lock you up for that. Joseph, get in the patty wagon.
1:41:16
Speaker 1: The Centurions have a couple of words for you, and
1:41:20
Speaker 1: yet ay pride, Joe. He didn't know how to conjugate
1:41:22
Speaker 1: Latin romandida and to whatever that was. That was part
1:41:29
Speaker 1: of the funniest scenes from that movie. I love that anyhow,
1:41:33
Speaker 1: just a little food to think about as we hopefully
1:41:35
Speaker 1: engage in what would should be a celebratory time of
1:41:38
Speaker 1: year where we all tried to maybe kind of act
1:41:41
Speaker 1: like Scrooge did when he woke up and realized that
1:41:44
Speaker 1: maybe his damnation or not was contingent upon him being
1:41:49
Speaker 1: a decent guy. You know what he had at the
1:41:51
Speaker 1: end of the movie, after all that he had a
1:41:52
Speaker 1: smile on his face. He was embracing the holiday season.
1:41:58
Speaker 1: He wasn't engaging in politics. It's a fictitious story, but
1:42:01
Speaker 1: why not celebrating a time of year that provides us
1:42:06
Speaker 1: with an opportunity to put a smile on our face
1:42:09
Speaker 1: and reflect. Let's not ruin it, pastors, priests by mixing
1:42:17
Speaker 1: politics up in a time of year when you should
1:42:19
Speaker 1: be providing your congregation with an uplifting message. If I
1:42:22
Speaker 1: may be so bold, Michael Park the documentary the Last
1:42:26
Speaker 1: six hundred Meters plus. I heard media aviation expert Jay
1:42:28
Speaker 1: Ratliffe coming up. I hope you can stick around today's
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Speaker 1: happy Friday Eve to you. Brian Thomas here right here,
1:42:51
Speaker 1: and please welcome Michael Pack. He is a renowned documentary
1:42:56
Speaker 1: director and we're gonna be talking about his newest release,
1:42:59
Speaker 1: The six hundred Meters The Battles of Ned Jaff and Fallujah.
1:43:03
Speaker 1: He is the president of Manifold Productions, independent film and
1:43:06
Speaker 1: television production company that he founded way back in seventy seven.
1:43:09
Speaker 1: Manifold Productions, mister Pack have written, direct, and produced numerous
1:43:13
Speaker 1: award winning, nationally broadcast documentaries, as well as corporate and
1:43:16
Speaker 1: educational films. Also president of Palladium Pictures. I could go
1:43:20
Speaker 1: through your film list, but let's dive right onto it. Michael, Well,
1:43:24
Speaker 1: welcome to the fifty five care Some morning should talk
1:43:26
Speaker 1: about a very important documentary. You released this Last six
1:43:29
Speaker 1: hundred Meters. What caused you to gravitate to make this
1:43:34
Speaker 1: particular film about the battles of Najaff and Fallujas are
1:43:39
Speaker 1: good to have you on the program.
1:43:41
Speaker 2: Well, it's good to be on your program. Well, as
1:43:44
Speaker 2: you say, I've made a lot of documentaries, fifteen have
1:43:47
Speaker 2: been nationally broadcast by PBS, but this one had of
1:43:50
Speaker 2: our unusual path. It's called The Last six hundred Meters
1:43:54
Speaker 2: The Battles of the Joff and Fallujah because a Special
1:43:59
Speaker 2: Forces snipers in the film, I don't make foreign policy,
1:44:02
Speaker 2: I delivered the last six hundred meters of it, meaning
1:44:05
Speaker 2: what he could see through a sniperscope, and we try
1:44:08
Speaker 2: to stay true to that. It's not about should we
1:44:10
Speaker 2: be in Iraq with the Iraq We're good or bad.
1:44:12
Speaker 2: It was what it was like to fight these battles.
1:44:15
Speaker 2: These are the biggest battles in America has fought since Vietnam,
1:44:19
Speaker 2: and we try to tell the story from the point
1:44:21
Speaker 2: of view the people who fought there, from corporals and
1:44:24
Speaker 2: sergeants up to the one star generals in the field,
1:44:27
Speaker 2: and we try to make it a battle story. As
1:44:29
Speaker 2: if it were a great historic battle like b Rejima
1:44:33
Speaker 2: or Gettysburg. And it is the hard great historic battles.
1:44:36
Speaker 2: But the path that you asked about how we got
1:44:39
Speaker 2: there is an odd one. We were researching a film
1:44:43
Speaker 2: about the Iraq War while it was going on in
1:44:45
Speaker 2: two thousand and four and five, and you know, I
1:44:50
Speaker 2: thought the stories of these battles and these young men
1:44:53
Speaker 2: and women being we're untold. And I conducted the interviews
1:44:57
Speaker 2: with them in two thousand and seven, three years after
1:45:00
Speaker 2: the battle, when they were still young and their memories
1:45:03
Speaker 2: were fresh. And then we completed a version of film
1:45:06
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. And even though it was
1:45:09
Speaker 2: primarily funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting PBS initially
1:45:13
Speaker 2: declined to broadcast it. They thought it was too pro military.
1:45:17
Speaker 2: Not sure what that means with us what they said,
1:45:20
Speaker 2: And over seventeen years we begged them to broadcast it,
1:45:22
Speaker 2: and finally President the PBS, and what I considered to
1:45:25
Speaker 2: be a courageous move, reversed seventeen years of no to
1:45:29
Speaker 2: say yes, and we slightly updated it and we put
1:45:33
Speaker 2: it on PBS. It was broadcast nationally and PBS the
1:45:36
Speaker 2: day before veterans day in the two hundred and fiftieth
1:45:38
Speaker 2: anniversary of the Marine Corps. And it is now streaming
1:45:41
Speaker 2: on Amazon and soon elsewhere, so it's available, and it
1:45:45
Speaker 2: had a very unusual history, but it's, if anything, more
1:45:49
Speaker 2: relevant today than it was, you know, way back when.
1:45:52
Speaker 1: Well could part of the reluctance be and see I'm
1:45:55
Speaker 1: trying to draw a parallel here between people's attitudes about Vietnam.
1:45:58
Speaker 1: Why are we there? Why are we fighting this battle?
1:46:00
Speaker 1: We don't care about why blah? And so the soldiers
1:46:02
Speaker 1: took the brunt of that when they came back, and
1:46:04
Speaker 1: I've always felt terrible about that. But insofar as us,
1:46:08
Speaker 1: the idea of us going into Iraq was predicated on
1:46:11
Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction. Guess what, there weren't any there.
1:46:14
Speaker 1: At least that's what we've all learned, is that part
1:46:17
Speaker 1: of the reason you were met with resistance, like we
1:46:19
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in that conflict in the first place,
1:46:21
Speaker 1: ignoring the pain, the peril, the death, and the just
1:46:25
Speaker 1: the awful realities of what our men and women on
1:46:29
Speaker 1: the front line had to deal with.
1:46:32
Speaker 2: I think that's very true. I think people couldn't see
1:46:35
Speaker 2: the film because of their ideology whatever it happened to
1:46:38
Speaker 2: be that, and so it was very much parallel to
1:46:44
Speaker 2: the Vietnam War veterans. I think the Iraq war veterans
1:46:47
Speaker 2: in the afghan Astian word veterans also don't get their
1:46:49
Speaker 2: due because people don't like their wars. I'm like to
1:46:52
Speaker 2: say World War two, but it doesn't change the fact
1:46:56
Speaker 2: that these were heroic people, young men and women, putting
1:47:00
Speaker 2: their lives on the line for us, the American people.
1:47:04
Speaker 2: And I think now maybe.
1:47:05
Speaker 4: We can see that more clearly.
1:47:07
Speaker 2: I mean we you know, the these people are very impressive.
1:47:12
Speaker 2: They've done, you know, they've they've put their lives a
1:47:15
Speaker 2: huge risk for us, and you can hear their stories
1:47:19
Speaker 2: and they're very dramatic on the film. I mean they're
1:47:23
Speaker 2: you know, this is you know, people have been fascinated
1:47:25
Speaker 2: by war from omer to today, and rightly so. These
1:47:28
Speaker 2: people are an extremists doing unusual things. And I also
1:47:34
Speaker 2: think it's important to even though it's beIN twenty one
1:47:37
Speaker 2: years since these battles, I think the nation and the
1:47:41
Speaker 2: world are often invested in these kind of wars and
1:47:45
Speaker 2: will be in the future. I point to the Israeli
1:47:48
Speaker 2: Hamas war in Gaza, you know, which is very similar,
1:47:52
Speaker 2: and America and others will be sucked into the until
1:47:55
Speaker 2: we should at least understand them.
1:47:57
Speaker 1: Amen to that. And you know, I've been in a
1:47:58
Speaker 1: blessed to be in a position where I've been able
1:48:00
Speaker 1: to talk to a lot of the men who what
1:48:03
Speaker 1: I always refer to and kicking indoors in Fallujah, and
1:48:07
Speaker 1: I always use it in the context of I think
1:48:10
Speaker 1: I have although I do not experience, I can certainly
1:48:13
Speaker 1: relate to the concept of post traumatic stress. If you
1:48:16
Speaker 1: got to get out of bed at Reveli or whenever,
1:48:17
Speaker 1: you start kicking indoors and you go into a room.
1:48:21
Speaker 1: One story that was told to me by one of
1:48:22
Speaker 1: these brave men. They kick a door in, they enter
1:48:25
Speaker 1: the room, and beneath the floor they had mounted the
1:48:29
Speaker 1: enemy and an anti aircraft gun, and they started shooting
1:48:32
Speaker 1: at the man who entered the room. From beneath the floor.
1:48:35
Speaker 1: One of the bullets penetrated hiss pants went right through it. Okay,
1:48:38
Speaker 1: you live through that experience, You're doing it again five
1:48:41
Speaker 1: minutes later in the next building. You're doing it all day,
1:48:44
Speaker 1: and then you're getting up tomorrow and doing the same thing.
1:48:46
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine operating at that level of adrennine and
1:48:49
Speaker 1: experiencing and showing that amount of bravery day in and
1:48:53
Speaker 1: day out. It is truly an amazing thing.
1:48:57
Speaker 2: I think that is very true. I mean, I break
1:48:59
Speaker 2: down these doors and you don't know when you smash
1:49:03
Speaker 2: the door in. Is the person that you're confronting a
1:49:06
Speaker 2: civilian that you're supposed to help, or is it an
1:49:09
Speaker 2: insurgent that's going to kill you and you've got to
1:49:10
Speaker 2: kill him before he kills you. I mean, you have
1:49:12
Speaker 2: to make these split level decisions, as you say, you know,
1:49:16
Speaker 2: time after time after time, day after day. And it's
1:49:20
Speaker 2: a lot to ask and a lot of the people
1:49:22
Speaker 2: that are breaking down the doors, the corporal sergeants, et cetera,
1:49:26
Speaker 2: are eighteen, nineteen, twenty year old young men in this
1:49:30
Speaker 2: case this war, you know, just out of high school
1:49:33
Speaker 2: or it's the best just out of college. It's a
1:49:35
Speaker 2: lot to ask and it's a lot of pressure. But
1:49:39
Speaker 2: I do think to the extent there's been attention to
1:49:42
Speaker 2: these veterans, it's focused on their PTSD and difficulties coming back,
1:49:46
Speaker 2: and maybe bad things that happen there like Abougrave and
1:49:48
Speaker 2: Paditha and mat too has obscured the fact that, yeah
1:49:52
Speaker 2: they have, those are true, but there's also the heroism
1:49:56
Speaker 2: of what they did. We tell the story at the
1:49:58
Speaker 2: end of Fallujah of Hell, a very dramatic firefight where
1:50:03
Speaker 2: Marines were pinned for hours and had to heroically took
1:50:07
Speaker 2: heroic efforts to rescue the Marines in the house. And
1:50:10
Speaker 2: you know, you can see this guy, Jesse Grapes has
1:50:13
Speaker 2: to break into the house through these bars and take
1:50:16
Speaker 2: his kevler off and end up having to cross the
1:50:19
Speaker 2: kill zone where insurgents have them pinned four times to
1:50:23
Speaker 2: rescue the Marines. I mean it's very you know, yeah,
1:50:28
Speaker 2: sure what is allowed to survive that? And after holl
1:50:30
Speaker 2: House you can see the faces of these men, you know,
1:50:32
Speaker 2: it's just you know, empty stairs and you know, drained
1:50:38
Speaker 2: of all energy. But I think on the other hand, yeah,
1:50:41
Speaker 2: there's the PTSD side, but there's also their heroism and valor,
1:50:45
Speaker 2: and it's important to notice both.
1:50:49
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with you, and I'm supportive of
1:50:52
Speaker 1: what they were, what they had done, and I understand
1:50:55
Speaker 1: that the questionable circumstances and I guess suppose one to
1:50:57
Speaker 1: gravitate over that some of them significantly profoundly affected to
1:51:01
Speaker 1: the negative again post traumatic stress, for example. But did
1:51:04
Speaker 1: you get a sense, you know, collectively, if you had
1:51:06
Speaker 1: to put them on a scale that the folks that
1:51:09
Speaker 1: you talked about when you were making the talk with
1:51:11
Speaker 1: when you're making the last six hundred meters, that they
1:51:14
Speaker 1: were indeed proud of what they were able to accomplish,
1:51:17
Speaker 1: that they were proud and walked away with a higher
1:51:20
Speaker 1: sense of bravery or reflective on their extreme bravery, but
1:51:24
Speaker 1: their sense of purpose. Were they overall positive about the
1:51:30
Speaker 1: whole experience and looking back on it and sort of
1:51:32
Speaker 1: maybe patting themselves on the back that you know, damn it.
1:51:34
Speaker 1: There was a tough mission, but I entered and I
1:51:36
Speaker 1: did what I was told, and we prevailed.
1:51:40
Speaker 4: Well.
1:51:40
Speaker 2: I think they all have a variety of views about
1:51:42
Speaker 2: the war. But we had a screening in Washington very
1:51:45
Speaker 2: recently where we invited all the veterans that were in
1:51:48
Speaker 2: the film to come, and many did.
1:51:51
Speaker 12: So.
1:51:52
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen them in seventeen years. I mean looked older,
1:51:55
Speaker 2: of course, but they were very proud of it. They
1:52:00
Speaker 2: and they were very bonded to each other, and it
1:52:03
Speaker 2: was a very moving experience. Many veterans in the audience
1:52:05
Speaker 2: got up to speak, and I think for a lot
1:52:08
Speaker 2: of them, it was their most intense, most bonded experience.
1:52:12
Speaker 2: As they said, these guys on the stage with them,
1:52:14
Speaker 2: even if they haven't seen them for years, they have
1:52:16
Speaker 2: a bond with them in some ways deeper than with
1:52:18
Speaker 2: their own family. You know, they've gone through, you know,
1:52:23
Speaker 2: this intense experience, you know. So on the other hand,
1:52:28
Speaker 2: they all have had trouble talking about it. Many of
1:52:31
Speaker 2: them were happy in my film finally came out so
1:52:33
Speaker 2: they could show it to their families who they couldn't
1:52:36
Speaker 2: really speak about the experience too. But yeah, I think
1:52:39
Speaker 2: they thought. I think they, you know, especially the Marines
1:52:44
Speaker 2: in the film, you know, we had wondering got on
1:52:46
Speaker 2: stage and said, look, we can win any war, any battle.
1:52:49
Speaker 2: You could put us in any battlefield that we will win.
1:52:52
Speaker 2: Will we will get to the objective, whether the war
1:52:55
Speaker 2: makes sense, whether those strategic objectives are right. That's other
1:52:59
Speaker 2: people's job. But you put us there, and today we
1:53:02
Speaker 2: could do it. And this guy has seventeen years years later,
1:53:05
Speaker 2: he's still ready to do it. So I think they
1:53:08
Speaker 2: are proud of what they did over there.
1:53:10
Speaker 1: I am so happy to hear that. Michael pak director
1:53:12
Speaker 1: of the last six hundred meters. Since it is the
1:53:15
Speaker 1: battles of Najaf and Fallujah, I have a kind of
1:53:18
Speaker 1: a concept of Fallujah. Were these the same types of battles?
1:53:22
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when you look in different theaters
1:53:24
Speaker 1: of conflict, you know your jungle warfare, you got desert warfare.
1:53:27
Speaker 1: This is, you know, basically, from what I understand, a
1:53:29
Speaker 1: lot of door to door as I sort of explained
1:53:31
Speaker 1: it earlier in simplistic forms. Were Najaf and Fallujah the
1:53:35
Speaker 1: same type of fighting or there are different types of
1:53:38
Speaker 1: combat going on?
1:53:40
Speaker 2: Well, they were both urban warfare. I mean, okay, in
1:53:43
Speaker 2: that sense they're the same. But it starts through the
1:53:45
Speaker 2: first battle of Felujah in the north and against Sunni insurgents,
1:53:49
Speaker 2: and then Najaf in the south against Shiai insurgents, and
1:53:54
Speaker 2: then back to the second battle of Flujah in the north,
1:53:56
Speaker 2: a six month period in the jaff You know, the
1:54:00
Speaker 2: city had been sort of taken over by the Mahdi
1:54:03
Speaker 2: militia run by Matanter al Fatter, and the fight first
1:54:07
Speaker 2: began in this very weird cemetery, this huge cemetery, multiple
1:54:11
Speaker 2: layers above ground and multiple layers below ground, and this
1:54:14
Speaker 2: sort of surreal landscape. And then they finally pushed the
1:54:17
Speaker 2: Mahdi militia into this mosque, the Grand Ali Mosque and
1:54:23
Speaker 2: one of the most holy sides in Shia Islam. And
1:54:26
Speaker 2: then it's a question of how to get him out
1:54:27
Speaker 2: of the mosque, and it's a political battle, and so
1:54:30
Speaker 2: it's not quite breaking and they're breaking down doors. I
1:54:32
Speaker 2: mean there's a there's they sheltered for a while in
1:54:35
Speaker 2: these huge kind of apartment like buildings that they had
1:54:39
Speaker 2: that the Air Force levels, and there are fights underground
1:54:44
Speaker 2: in those buildings. Seth Moulton, now a Democratic congressman, tells
1:54:49
Speaker 2: the story of someone in his squad who's who encountered
1:54:52
Speaker 2: in the surgeon underground in one of those buildings, and
1:54:55
Speaker 2: it was so the quartas were so close they couldn't
1:54:59
Speaker 2: get their gun, the machine, the weapons out, and so
1:55:02
Speaker 2: it was turned into a knife fight until the marine
1:55:06
Speaker 2: that killed the insurgent with his knife through the guy's eye.
1:55:11
Speaker 2: So it gets to be pretty brutal, primitive combat and
1:55:16
Speaker 2: very strange surreal circumstances. Not quite the ticking down the
1:55:19
Speaker 2: doors symbol of the Second Battle of Fallujah, but a
1:55:23
Speaker 2: variation on that, but still urban combat.
1:55:26
Speaker 1: Fair enough and from the bottom of my heart, I
1:55:29
Speaker 1: personally can't thank you enough for documenting this in the
1:55:32
Speaker 1: last six hundred meters of battles in the Joff and Fallujah,
1:55:34
Speaker 1: and in my listening audience, I have lots of American veterans,
1:55:38
Speaker 1: many of whom were probably there and can certainly relate
1:55:40
Speaker 1: to it and will enjoy watching this film. And to
1:55:43
Speaker 1: a lot of people who really don't get it, haven't
1:55:45
Speaker 1: can't understand it, get a load of it. It's right
1:55:47
Speaker 1: there for everyone to see, the last six hundred meters
1:55:49
Speaker 1: of battles in the Joff and Flujia. My guest today,
1:55:51
Speaker 1: the producer and director of the film, Michael Pack, Thank
1:55:54
Speaker 1: you again for your service to the country and your
1:55:56
Speaker 1: service to the men and women who were involved in
1:55:58
Speaker 1: the conflict and put in the film together. And I
1:56:00
Speaker 1: will encourage my listeners to check it out. I'm staring
1:56:03
Speaker 1: at the page right now PBS Documentaries. It's easy to find,
1:56:05
Speaker 1: and my producer will put a link on my blog
1:56:07
Speaker 1: page at fifty five cars dot com to make it
1:56:09
Speaker 1: that much easier. Michael, thanks again, and thanks for spending
1:56:12
Speaker 1: time with my listeners.
1:56:13
Speaker 4: On me today. Thank you.
1:56:15
Speaker 2: It's really it's easiest to find on Amazon, and it
1:56:18
Speaker 2: really was an honor to me to be able to
1:56:20
Speaker 2: tell these stories. You know, the thanks go to them,
1:56:24
Speaker 2: you know what.
1:56:25
Speaker 1: I understand that, but thanks again for doing it, and
1:56:27
Speaker 1: I'm glad you enjoyed the experience and again to document it.
1:56:30
Speaker 1: It's a nineteen right now. Fifty five KRCD Talk Station
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Speaker 1: may have a moment in time for a call at Maureen.
1:56:35
Speaker 1: If you'd like to try to chime in, feel free
1:56:36
Speaker 1: to do so. Jay Ratliffe coming up, I know that,
1:56:38
Speaker 1: don't go away. Fifty five krc Sure you go. Hey,
1:56:43
Speaker 1: twenty two fifty have KRCD Talk station straight to the phones,
1:56:46
Speaker 1: a few callers online, going to try to get them
1:56:48
Speaker 1: all in. Let's start with in the order which they receive. Matt,
1:56:51
Speaker 1: Welcome to the morning show.
1:56:53
Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, Brian.
1:56:54
Speaker 15: The issue with the Holy Family being migrants was it
1:56:57
Speaker 15: that they went from Nazareth to Bethlehem. They used that
1:57:01
Speaker 15: from when they went from Nasareth to Egypt the fleet
1:57:04
Speaker 15: King Herod. But the important point they forget to talk
1:57:07
Speaker 15: about is they went home when the danger was gone.
1:57:10
Speaker 15: They weren't permanent illegal immics.
1:57:13
Speaker 9: They weren't permanent migrants.
1:57:14
Speaker 1: They came home after the counting.
1:57:17
Speaker 5: That's yeah, no, no, after Herod slaughtered the innocent.
1:57:22
Speaker 4: I got you it was.
1:57:24
Speaker 15: It wasn't when they went to register in Bethlehem. It
1:57:27
Speaker 15: was when they fled when Jesus was young and King
1:57:31
Speaker 15: Herod spoke to the mage and wanted to find out.
1:57:34
Speaker 4: Where the baby was.
1:57:35
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Well, like I said, no theologian Ami, but are
1:57:38
Speaker 1: you of the mindset that the priest got it wrong?
1:57:42
Speaker 12: Yes?
1:57:42
Speaker 1: Okay, fundamentally that seemed to be where I was going
1:57:47
Speaker 1: on that one, but I appreciate the additional extra information.
1:57:51
Speaker 1: Important it is. But you know, we have at least
1:57:54
Speaker 1: two identifiably leftist I would argue backcraping, saying people respond
1:58:00
Speaker 1: possible for the Nativity scenes that don't understand their own religion. Maureen,
1:58:05
Speaker 1: welcome to the Morning Show. Time to squeeze you in
1:58:08
Speaker 1: here as I thought I would welcome.
1:58:10
Speaker 11: Good morning, Brian. I missed the first hour of the show,
1:58:13
Speaker 11: so I hope without repeating anything that anybody ever talked
1:58:16
Speaker 11: about as far as Judge of Politanus call yesterday talking
1:58:21
Speaker 11: about the constitutionality of President Trump taking out the Venezuelan
1:58:25
Speaker 11: Narco trafficking boats, right, I listened to a monthly podcast
1:58:30
Speaker 11: of various retired generals and their most recent podcast was
1:58:34
Speaker 11: about this very subject, and I took notes from that podcast.
1:58:37
Speaker 11: So I just wanted to pass on with.
1:58:39
Speaker 2: That information on to you right now, quick goad.
1:58:42
Speaker 11: Okay, it says yes, based on Supreme Court duck at
1:58:45
Speaker 11: number two three nine three nine actions involving ordering the
1:58:50
Speaker 11: military to interdict or destroy Venezuela and narco boats our
1:58:53
Speaker 11: core commander in chief acts under counter Drug Mission authority.
1:58:57
Speaker 11: They would receive absolute immunity under t versus United States
1:59:01
Speaker 11: Supreme Court Supreme Court docket two three nine three nine.
1:59:06
Speaker 11: That said, based on counter narcocotics maritime operations, if a
1:59:11
Speaker 11: president orders military force to pursue, interdict, disable, or destroy
1:59:15
Speaker 11: hostile or unlawful vessels that are part of the narcotics
1:59:18
Speaker 11: trafficking network, these are military operational orders and that means
1:59:23
Speaker 11: they fall squarely within commander in chief authority, national defense,
1:59:27
Speaker 11: foreign operations, and executive enforcement of federal law through military assets.
1:59:32
Speaker 11: These are all considered core presidential military actions. Key takeaway
1:59:36
Speaker 11: is look at the Supreme Court docket two three dash
1:59:39
Speaker 11: nine three nine.
1:59:40
Speaker 1: Hostile and unlawful? Are they hostile and is this engaging
1:59:45
Speaker 1: in unlawful activity sinsor in international waters. Apparently the Venezuelans
1:59:49
Speaker 1: don't have any criminality associated with the manufacturer or sale
1:59:52
Speaker 1: of drugs, so I'm not sure the legal status there,
1:59:54
Speaker 1: whether it isn't is unlawful. But in international waters fifteen
1:59:58
Speaker 1: hundred miles away, are they indeed hostile? Are they actually
2:00:01
Speaker 1: coming here? I don't know. I mean, that's the kind
2:00:04
Speaker 1: of thing that I poses the biggest challenge for me.
2:00:06
Speaker 1: Under certain circumstances. I will acknowledge the president does have
2:00:09
Speaker 1: authority if someone's coming at the gate guns of blazon
2:00:13
Speaker 1: or you know, strapped with a bomb to their vest,
2:00:15
Speaker 1: witting to blow somebody up because it's right there, and
2:00:18
Speaker 1: an apprehension reasonable bodily harm or murder or dismemberment, whatever, Yeah,
2:00:22
Speaker 1: use deadly force. But I don't know that the circumstances
2:00:26
Speaker 1: exist under these particular scenarios that we're reading about that
2:00:29
Speaker 1: justifies the use of military force. It's a gray area,
2:00:33
Speaker 1: without question. And I keep going back to somebody screaming
2:00:36
Speaker 1: at me at the radio. These are drug dealers.
2:00:37
Speaker 2: I know.
2:00:38
Speaker 1: I don't want them alive. I don't want them coming
2:00:40
Speaker 1: to the United States. But I also know that if
2:00:41
Speaker 1: I was in a boat off the coast of Venezuela,
2:00:44
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect a rocket to come out of nowhere,
2:00:46
Speaker 1: especially if I'm not going to America with my cargo,
2:00:50
Speaker 1: and my cargo might not be drugs. I don't know.
2:00:53
Speaker 1: Got to have a lot of faith in our intelligence
2:00:55
Speaker 1: operations to know exactly who these people are, that they
2:00:58
Speaker 1: have been identified as actual Narco terrace, And I don't
2:01:01
Speaker 1: know how that happens this far away hell. We can't
2:01:04
Speaker 1: even find find people that have moved away from their
2:01:07
Speaker 1: home under ankle monitor restrictions, roam in the streets committing crimes.
2:01:11
Speaker 1: We can't find them in our own backyard. How is
2:01:13
Speaker 1: it that we know the identity and the definitive reality
2:01:16
Speaker 1: like due process, that these people are Narco terrorists. It's crazy.
2:01:20
Speaker 1: Welcome to a gray area eight twenty so I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Morning in eight twenty six fifty five kerc the talk station,
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Speaker 1: I heard me the aviation expert saving me from myself.
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Speaker 1: how did that pop up?
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Speaker 16: So the officers are right there on the seventh floor.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but of all the offices in the building, I mean,
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Speaker 1: iHeart media didn't show up or none of the other
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Speaker 1: It's just like it was channeling you, Jay ratlift your car.
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Speaker 16: Your car knows what's important.
2:02:08
Speaker 2: I know.
2:02:09
Speaker 16: Look, look, my students had a good December. I think
2:02:11
Speaker 16: I made thirty two or thirty three thousand dollars flipping
2:02:14
Speaker 16: stocks last month in a spare time effort. So that
2:02:17
Speaker 16: that that's just a reminder that you know, when you
2:02:20
Speaker 16: slow down, yeah, flip a few stocks, and you know,
2:02:23
Speaker 16: fund your retirement.
2:02:24
Speaker 1: I'm going to get another earful for my wife, who
2:02:26
Speaker 1: has been just pleading with me to take you up
2:02:29
Speaker 1: on your advice and do the class someday.
2:02:32
Speaker 16: At least at least your car and your wife are
2:02:34
Speaker 16: on my side.
2:02:35
Speaker 1: That's exactly I'm on your side too.
2:02:37
Speaker 4: Jays.
2:02:38
Speaker 1: Anyhow, Jay Ratliffe, apparently you had to file a lawsuit
2:02:43
Speaker 1: for Southwest Airlines to provide the military leave for their pilots.
2:02:47
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's it's very un Southwest Airlines like to be honest,
2:02:51
Speaker 16: because of course every airline has a specific number of
2:02:54
Speaker 16: days they give their their pilots and employees that have
2:02:58
Speaker 16: military service, and Southwest Airlines actually had to be taken
2:03:02
Speaker 16: to court by some pilots trying to get more days
2:03:07
Speaker 16: as far as military paid time or paid or military
2:03:12
Speaker 16: leave of absence, and there was a class action lawsuit
2:03:15
Speaker 16: that was brought by some of the pilots and the
2:03:19
Speaker 16: ruling came in that Southwest has agreed now to provide
2:03:21
Speaker 16: up to ten days of short term military leave and
2:03:24
Speaker 16: pay up about almost nineteen million dollars in compensation to
2:03:28
Speaker 16: twenty eight one hundred former employees who weren't able to
2:03:35
Speaker 16: get a leave with pay where they could end up
2:03:39
Speaker 16: serving their country. So it still has to be approved
2:03:42
Speaker 16: by the government or by the courts. And Brian, what
2:03:44
Speaker 16: we're hoping is if being the landmark decision, it is
2:03:48
Speaker 16: that obviously that type of an arrangement would kind of
2:03:52
Speaker 16: seep through to the other airlines where we would see that,
2:03:55
Speaker 16: I would like to see more, but at least having
2:03:57
Speaker 16: that as a basis, I think is a good starting point.
2:04:01
Speaker 16: And look, a lot of this is negotiated in the
2:04:03
Speaker 16: contracts as well, because when the pilot union and the
2:04:06
Speaker 16: airlines are bouncing back and forth as far as the
2:04:10
Speaker 16: compensation and benefit levels for their contract they're negotiating. I
2:04:14
Speaker 16: am certain that this is a component of that deal.
2:04:19
Speaker 16: Now I don't know that for sure, but I've seen
2:04:22
Speaker 16: these arrangements and they cover everything, and I can't believe
2:04:26
Speaker 16: that those deals would be hammered out absent of a
2:04:29
Speaker 16: provision that would apply to some sort of military leave
2:04:32
Speaker 16: for the employees when it was.
2:04:34
Speaker 1: Needed fair enough. Well, well, that loss it may have precedent,
2:04:39
Speaker 1: as you say, going on FAA pualizing airlines who failed
2:04:43
Speaker 1: to reduce flight operations during the shutdown as ordered. Well,
2:04:48
Speaker 1: what's this, Jay Ratt left.
2:04:50
Speaker 16: Well, they sent letters out this week to airlines saying, look,
2:04:54
Speaker 16: we told you at forty airports that we needed you
2:04:57
Speaker 16: to reduce the number of flights to a specific level.
2:05:00
Speaker 16: And the Federal Aviation Ministruation has looked into it, Bran,
2:05:02
Speaker 16: and they found that not every airline did what they
2:05:05
Speaker 16: were supposed to. So the letters that went out this
2:05:08
Speaker 16: this week have shocker exactly. So right now, the fa says, look,
2:05:13
Speaker 16: they sent the airlines that they are looking at a
2:05:15
Speaker 16: letter saying you have thirty days to provide evidence that,
2:05:19
Speaker 16: in essence, you did what you did or we're supposed
2:05:21
Speaker 16: to do complying with our orders violators. They are indicating
2:05:25
Speaker 16: risk fines up to seventy five thousand dollars per flight
2:05:28
Speaker 16: that was operated over that threshold, and they went on
2:05:32
Speaker 16: to say, quote, if we do not hear from you
2:05:34
Speaker 16: within that specified time, our report will be processed without
2:05:37
Speaker 16: the benefit of your statement. So I like the fact
2:05:40
Speaker 16: that the FAA is looking at coming down hard. Now
2:05:43
Speaker 16: here's what's going to happen. They'll find a number of
2:05:45
Speaker 16: airlines that had a whole bunch of flights that probably
2:05:47
Speaker 16: were above that threshold, and the FAA will propose a
2:05:51
Speaker 16: very hefty and I think well deserved fine. We will
2:05:54
Speaker 16: then later see that that find was negotiated down by
2:05:57
Speaker 16: these same airlines with a deal the government that probably says,
2:06:02
Speaker 16: if we don't do it again, blah blah blah, you know,
2:06:04
Speaker 16: we have to pay a fraction of that fine rare?
2:06:07
Speaker 7: Is it?
2:06:08
Speaker 16: If ever, that the proposed finds from the Federal Aviation
2:06:10
Speaker 16: Administration actually are imposed on the airlines.
2:06:15
Speaker 14: They're always negotiated.
2:06:16
Speaker 16: Down And it just drives me crazy because I'm thinking,
2:06:19
Speaker 16: what's the incentive here for airlines to do what they're
2:06:21
Speaker 16: supposed to if they know that they can skirt the rules,
2:06:25
Speaker 16: get away with it, and pay a fraction of a
2:06:27
Speaker 16: fine that might be coming their way.
2:06:29
Speaker 1: All right, simple enough, easily stated. That's what we get
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Speaker 1: from my Heart Media Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff. Coming up.
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Speaker 1: He joins the fifty five CARSS Morning Show for a
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Speaker 1: segments every Thursday at this time. Real quick here, I said,
2:07:03
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to throw your curveball, but well, I
2:07:06
Speaker 1: couldn't recall since you mentioned Southwest before, if we had
2:07:10
Speaker 1: talked about this. They're now charging what they call plus
2:07:14
Speaker 1: size passengers for them to have to buy a second
2:07:18
Speaker 1: seat because I guess they're spilling over into the next seat.
2:07:20
Speaker 1: So is that something that's going to be a trend
2:07:23
Speaker 1: into the future or Southwest going to be a loaner
2:07:25
Speaker 1: on this, because I have heard, I mean, in my
2:07:28
Speaker 1: life a lot of people complain about the spillover effect
2:07:32
Speaker 1: when they're stuck on an airplane, and it can be
2:07:34
Speaker 1: problematic for travelers, as I might imagine.
2:07:37
Speaker 16: Yeah, what's happened is if you know, for decades, if
2:07:41
Speaker 16: you were of the size of passenger that would require
2:07:44
Speaker 16: two seats, the airlines would charge you.
2:07:48
Speaker 4: For both seats.
2:07:49
Speaker 16: Sometimes they might charge you for one hundred and fifty
2:07:52
Speaker 16: percent or things of this nature, and it really just
2:07:55
Speaker 16: depends the airline to airline. Now, Southwest had a policy
2:07:58
Speaker 16: that in essence that if if you were a person
2:08:01
Speaker 16: that had to buy a second seat, that there was
2:08:05
Speaker 16: a way that you could within a period of time,
2:08:07
Speaker 16: if the flight wasn't full, or if there were so
2:08:09
Speaker 16: many empty seats on board the flight, that you could
2:08:12
Speaker 16: actually request some sort of a partial refund as far
2:08:17
Speaker 16: as because you know it's it would be bad if
2:08:19
Speaker 16: they charged you double and you get on there and
2:08:22
Speaker 16: there's twelve people on the plane and you know you've
2:08:24
Speaker 16: got all that you've got to row to yourself. So
2:08:26
Speaker 16: they have changed some of that policy so that you know,
2:08:29
Speaker 16: it's it in essence makes it harder for people to
2:08:34
Speaker 16: uh get that partial that that part port part of
2:08:37
Speaker 16: partial refund back and you know it's a departure from
2:08:41
Speaker 16: what they have done before and they're making it a
2:08:44
Speaker 16: little bit more difficult for people that require that second seat. So, uh,
2:08:49
Speaker 16: this this policy is is kicked in and I think
2:08:52
Speaker 16: it's next month, first of the year, and they've been
2:08:54
Speaker 16: talking about it through the through the year with it
2:08:56
Speaker 16: coming up. But you know, Brian, the seats are getting
2:08:59
Speaker 16: smaller and the roads are getting more packed as far
2:09:01
Speaker 16: as close together, and it makes it more and more
2:09:04
Speaker 16: difficult for any person really to have a difficult time
2:09:07
Speaker 16: being comfortable.
2:09:08
Speaker 4: And it's a challenge.
2:09:10
Speaker 16: And I've had to tell people many times over the
2:09:12
Speaker 16: years at the airport that you know, given the fact
2:09:15
Speaker 16: that the seats are getting smaller, and you know, if
2:09:18
Speaker 16: you're a larger bone person is how I would normally
2:09:21
Speaker 16: phrase it, that the only way you're going to be
2:09:23
Speaker 16: comfortable is if you purchase that second seat. Now, for
2:09:26
Speaker 16: people that have traveled a lot, that's certainly nothing that's
2:09:29
Speaker 16: really news to them because they recognize.
2:09:32
Speaker 4: Okay, I've had to do that before.
2:09:33
Speaker 16: And again the policy on how it's how it's handled
2:09:36
Speaker 16: varies from airline to airline, but you know it's at
2:09:40
Speaker 16: least Southwest is giving you the opportunity to get a
2:09:44
Speaker 16: part of that second you know, seat money back, depending
2:09:48
Speaker 16: on how many seats are available once the door has closed.
2:09:50
Speaker 16: But again you've got a very tight window to request that,
2:09:53
Speaker 16: otherwise it becomes one of these My favorite thing are
2:09:57
Speaker 16: the mail in rebates where we will overcharge you and
2:10:00
Speaker 16: then if you think about it, you can send it
2:10:02
Speaker 16: in and will give your money back, knowing a good
2:10:04
Speaker 16: portion of that population will not do it. I hate
2:10:08
Speaker 16: mail in rebate.
2:10:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, out with you on that. Have they revamped the
2:10:13
Speaker 1: evacuation time We've talked about that before, but you know, people,
2:10:17
Speaker 1: without question, statistically and I can just rely on that,
2:10:19
Speaker 1: have gotten much much larger over the past decade or
2:10:22
Speaker 1: two or three. But the ability to get the people
2:10:26
Speaker 1: off of the plane. That's a little red flag for
2:10:29
Speaker 1: me because I know it's a little more difficult to
2:10:30
Speaker 1: evacuate a plane that's filled with maybe plus sized folks
2:10:33
Speaker 1: rather than you know, waifs of people.
2:10:36
Speaker 16: Well, the requirements still ninety seconds. We have to get
2:10:40
Speaker 16: everybody off the plane with half the exs blocked, and
2:10:43
Speaker 16: the FAA does tests from time to time to make
2:10:47
Speaker 16: sure that we are maintaining that speed because if not,
2:10:51
Speaker 16: then there's a problem, you have too many seats, or
2:10:54
Speaker 16: you've just you've got to do something. So, you know,
2:10:57
Speaker 16: shocker that every single time the fa has done this test,
2:11:00
Speaker 16: we've been able to hit that ninety second evacuation mark.
2:11:03
Speaker 16: Now you have to take a step into it and
2:11:06
Speaker 16: kind of look a little closer to see that none
2:11:09
Speaker 16: of the people that are used in the FAA approved
2:11:12
Speaker 16: tests to make sure we hit that ninety seconds. No
2:11:15
Speaker 16: children of any kind, no service animals of any kind,
2:11:20
Speaker 16: no elderly passengers of any kind. So when you start
2:11:23
Speaker 16: looking at the types of passengers that are used to
2:11:26
Speaker 16: make sure we hit the ninety seconds, it's not really
2:11:30
Speaker 16: reflective of the traveling public. So there's been a lot
2:11:33
Speaker 16: of people in Washington, d C. Who said wait a minute,
2:11:35
Speaker 16: time out here. We can't use this as the metric
2:11:38
Speaker 16: if that's not the kind of people that fly on
2:11:40
Speaker 16: a normal basis. So we need to have elderly, We
2:11:44
Speaker 16: need to have people that are that have some sort
2:11:46
Speaker 16: of of a physical disability, it would slow them down.
2:11:49
Speaker 16: We need children traveling by themselves. We need all of
2:11:52
Speaker 16: these different components to really see if it's reflective of
2:11:56
Speaker 16: what the actual emergency evacuation time would be. And Brian
2:12:00
Speaker 16: time after time, the FAA is either play the crickets
2:12:04
Speaker 16: or the last track. It's one of the two because
2:12:06
Speaker 16: they're just they're just not moving in that direction. Because
2:12:09
Speaker 16: if they did, and this really shows how much power
2:12:12
Speaker 16: the airline industry has, then you've got to do two things.
2:12:16
Speaker 16: You have to sell only a certain number of seats
2:12:19
Speaker 16: to make sure in this revenue and there is the
2:12:22
Speaker 16: bottom line.
2:12:23
Speaker 4: Drives me crazy.
2:12:24
Speaker 16: Don't tell me safety is are number one priority.
2:12:27
Speaker 1: It's revenue And apparently don't fly if you have Parkinson's
2:12:32
Speaker 1: a sort of a thumbnail sketch of this one and
2:12:34
Speaker 1: tell them about it.
2:12:36
Speaker 16: Yeah, this was a Turkish airline's flight. There was a
2:12:38
Speaker 16: man and his son, and the man is a correspondent
2:12:41
Speaker 16: for BBC and he is flying from London to Ismbul, Turkey,
2:12:46
Speaker 16: and they go and they're on their way back and
2:12:49
Speaker 16: as they check in at the gate, the man with
2:12:51
Speaker 16: Parkinson's is exhibiting, you know, some of the tremors. And
2:12:56
Speaker 16: the agent looked at him and said, do you have
2:12:58
Speaker 16: a doctor's note that says it's okay for you to
2:13:02
Speaker 16: fly and that doctor's note has to be issued to
2:13:05
Speaker 16: you within the last ten days. And the man said, no,
2:13:08
Speaker 16: I mean I have Parkinson's and the agent said, and
2:13:13
Speaker 16: the agent was correct, it's on our website that if
2:13:16
Speaker 16: you have Parkinson's you need to have that doctor's in
2:13:21
Speaker 16: essence permission, that letter that you.
2:13:23
Speaker 4: Could show us.
2:13:24
Speaker 16: Now, he said, on time out here, I flew here
2:13:26
Speaker 16: on you guys, and nobody in London said anything. And
2:13:31
Speaker 16: he kept saying, it's you know, it's Parkinson's, I mean
2:13:33
Speaker 16: what it's And I don't understand, O brien, because I
2:13:37
Speaker 16: don't know any other airline that has this as a
2:13:39
Speaker 16: posted policy. But they would not let him fly, so
2:13:42
Speaker 16: we had to wait another day, came back to London
2:13:44
Speaker 16: on another carrier, and of course this has gone viral.
2:13:47
Speaker 16: Turkish airlines to my last check had not yet responded,
2:13:51
Speaker 16: but it's it's on their website.
2:13:53
Speaker 14: It's there.
2:13:54
Speaker 16: It's a matter of policy for the airlines.
2:13:56
Speaker 4: So it.
2:13:59
Speaker 16: It just what if somebody has cancer, they needed what
2:14:02
Speaker 16: it's got this I mean word, would it end if
2:14:04
Speaker 16: if that was the case. And the thing is that
2:14:07
Speaker 16: the gate or a ticket counter, you're you're trying to
2:14:09
Speaker 16: make sure that nobody with a medical condition, maybe somebody
2:14:12
Speaker 16: who's nine and a half months pregnant, gets on a plane,
2:14:15
Speaker 16: because that could create a problem where you now have
2:14:18
Speaker 16: a medical emergency in flight where you have to make
2:14:20
Speaker 16: a diverse, diverted landing, which could put the passenger at risk.
2:14:24
Speaker 16: It's going to cost the airline money, and it's going
2:14:26
Speaker 16: to be an inconvenience to the passengers, kind of in
2:14:29
Speaker 16: that order. So if you spot something that could be
2:14:32
Speaker 16: a potential problem, the airlines have these safety checks where
2:14:35
Speaker 16: agents are trained. Don't let that person who appears to
2:14:38
Speaker 16: be inebriated on board the airplane, or somebody who's picking
2:14:41
Speaker 16: a fight with another passenger or whatever it might happen
2:14:44
Speaker 16: to be, so that you leave the problem in the
2:14:46
Speaker 16: gate area at the airport and it doesn't get on
2:14:48
Speaker 16: the plane. That's going to create an inflight problem. Parkinson's
2:14:52
Speaker 16: is nothing that's going to create an inflight problem of
2:14:54
Speaker 16: any kind. So that's why none of this makes sense.
2:14:58
Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense to me either. One more segment
2:15:01
Speaker 1: with Jay Ratliffe coming up. We're going to find out
2:15:02
Speaker 1: about the real ID fee and apparently the TSA's got
2:15:06
Speaker 1: a new record to talk about crow about that means profits.
2:15:10
Speaker 1: I bet more with Jay Rattlifte right for these brief
2:15:12
Speaker 1: words fifty seven above ter CD talk station talking aviation
2:15:17
Speaker 1: issues with aviation expert at Jay Rattliffe TSA real ID.
2:15:22
Speaker 1: I saw this from coming. Apparently getting a real ID
2:15:25
Speaker 1: is probably a good idea. And unless you got an
2:15:27
Speaker 1: extra what forty bucks laying around?
2:15:29
Speaker 16: Yeah, forty five if it would be. And what's happened
2:15:33
Speaker 16: is the real ID where we had to have. The
2:15:36
Speaker 16: TSSE approved driver's license took effect in early May, and
2:15:41
Speaker 16: about ninety five percent of us have the new updated
2:15:44
Speaker 16: approved TSA type driver's license that allow us to travel
2:15:49
Speaker 16: using that as our identification. But there's still five percent
2:15:51
Speaker 16: of the population that does not have that. They still
2:15:54
Speaker 16: have a valid driver's license, but Brian has not yet
2:15:56
Speaker 16: been upgraded. To that real ID A newer and the
2:16:00
Speaker 16: TSA has since May tried to work with all those
2:16:03
Speaker 16: passengers that have been flying with the non approved identification.
2:16:08
Speaker 16: But what they're saying is as of February first, that's changing,
2:16:12
Speaker 16: and they're really trying to encourage people to get the
2:16:14
Speaker 16: new driver's license and just you know, less hassle when you.
2:16:17
Speaker 4: Get to the airport.
2:16:18
Speaker 16: But what they're saying is if you're gonna be traveling
2:16:20
Speaker 16: after February first, and you're going to be using your
2:16:23
Speaker 16: current but not you know, upgraded driver's license, you will
2:16:28
Speaker 16: be charged forty five dollars.
2:16:31
Speaker 4: To in essence use that.
2:16:32
Speaker 16: You have to go online to TSA dot gub, fill
2:16:35
Speaker 16: out the the the form application whatever, pay the forty
2:16:38
Speaker 16: five dollars, and that's for every passenger eighteen years of
2:16:41
Speaker 16: age and older. That's for a ten day period of time.
2:16:44
Speaker 16: So that means if you're heading out to Grandmall's on
2:16:47
Speaker 16: the West Coast and you're gonna be there two weeks,
2:16:50
Speaker 16: you get to pay that twice. Now, the thing that
2:16:53
Speaker 16: is going to be super inconvenient here is if your
2:16:55
Speaker 16: family of six, you know, shows up at the airport,
2:16:58
Speaker 16: you get in line, you're ready to go, and they say,
2:17:01
Speaker 16: I'm sorry, we have to have you step out of line,
2:17:03
Speaker 16: go online, fill out the form, pay the forty five
2:17:07
Speaker 16: bucks per person, get back in line, and then hopefully
2:17:10
Speaker 16: you'll make your flight. So this is something you absolutely
2:17:12
Speaker 16: want to make sure of after February first. If you've
2:17:16
Speaker 16: got a valid passport and you don't have the real
2:17:18
Speaker 16: ID driver's license, no problem. Use your valid passport for
2:17:22
Speaker 16: your identification. That's fine. In fact, the TSA shows at
2:17:25
Speaker 16: TSA dot gov all the approved different things you can
2:17:30
Speaker 16: use for identification when you fly. But Brian, a number
2:17:33
Speaker 16: of people that are flying with their the old driver's
2:17:36
Speaker 16: license is at a point where it's really an inconvenience
2:17:39
Speaker 16: for the TSA to keep doing what they've been doing,
2:17:41
Speaker 16: and it really makes the May deadline a bit silly
2:17:45
Speaker 16: if you're still allowing people to fly. So the TSA
2:17:48
Speaker 16: is saying, look, as a February first, this is what
2:17:51
Speaker 16: we're going to be doing. Initially it was going to
2:17:52
Speaker 16: be an eighteen dollars charge, but in typical government fashion,
2:17:55
Speaker 16: it went up to forty five, and who knows, may
2:17:57
Speaker 16: go up even higher than that. So the bottom line is,
2:17:59
Speaker 16: get get that new driver's license. Get it out of
2:18:02
Speaker 16: the way so you don't have to worry about it,
2:18:04
Speaker 16: because I tell you a lot of people are going
2:18:05
Speaker 16: to show up the airport and not know that needs
2:18:07
Speaker 16: to be done in advance.
2:18:08
Speaker 1: Well, perhaps it's forty five dollars, because it will represent
2:18:11
Speaker 1: enough money that people will relent and go to the
2:18:14
Speaker 1: DMV and get the new license.
2:18:16
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, you've got a family of four and you've
2:18:18
Speaker 16: got to pay that four times. They're all at eighteen years.
2:18:21
Speaker 16: I mean that you know, in some brate you might
2:18:24
Speaker 16: be having airfares that are cheaper than that when you
2:18:27
Speaker 16: look at the total prices. So at the bottom line
2:18:30
Speaker 16: is that it just knowing about it ahead of time
2:18:33
Speaker 16: means you're not going to have that headache when you
2:18:35
Speaker 16: get to the airport. We have plenty of time between
2:18:37
Speaker 16: now in the first of February to fix whatever issue
2:18:39
Speaker 16: it is. So what we're trying to do is avoid
2:18:43
Speaker 16: headaches for people that might be flying, because when you
2:18:45
Speaker 16: get to the airport, you have enough stuff going on
2:18:47
Speaker 16: without worrying about getting out of line and filling out
2:18:50
Speaker 16: some aggravating online form where you hope the internet connection
2:18:53
Speaker 16: is going to allow all it to go through pretty.
2:18:55
Speaker 1: Quick right, got it all right? A new record set.
2:18:59
Speaker 1: I'll Thanksgiving is the biggest travel I suppose time of year.
2:19:03
Speaker 1: Is that what I read correctly, But apparently that is
2:19:06
Speaker 1: true whether or not I read it correctly or not.
2:19:09
Speaker 16: Oh no, you're right, and we talk about it. That's
2:19:11
Speaker 16: the busiest travel week of the year. Typically, the Sunday
2:19:13
Speaker 16: after Thanksgiving is the busiest travel day. The Wednesday before
2:19:17
Speaker 16: Thanksgiving is the second busiest travel day. And true to form,
2:19:21
Speaker 16: TSA told us this week that we set a new
2:19:24
Speaker 16: record last Sunday, the Sunday after Thanksgiving. We had three
2:19:27
Speaker 16: point one million plus people that were screened for travel
2:19:31
Speaker 16: that day. That breaks the old record, So we had
2:19:33
Speaker 16: more people flying on Sunday than we've ever had before. Sadly,
2:19:37
Speaker 16: it was also a day of a lot of storms
2:19:39
Speaker 16: across the country that delayed twelve four hundred and I
2:19:42
Speaker 16: think thirteen flights. It was so bad that some of
2:19:45
Speaker 16: those people didn't get home until Monday or Tuesday because
2:19:49
Speaker 16: the flights were so full. So if you travel on Sunday, congratulations,
2:19:54
Speaker 16: you were part of a record. And I'm sorry some
2:19:57
Speaker 16: of you had the issues you did because you had
2:19:58
Speaker 16: to earn it. Because many people were delayed on Sunday.
2:20:02
Speaker 16: We almost made it through that busy travel week. Well's
2:20:04
Speaker 16: had a super bad weather, Brian, but it nailed us
2:20:07
Speaker 16: right as we were finishing things up, and sadly on
2:20:10
Speaker 16: the busiest travel day we've ever seen.
2:20:12
Speaker 1: Horseshoes in hand, Gernade. It's close enough and finally hubbed. Lads,
2:20:16
Speaker 1: what's it looking like out there for air travel today? Jay?
2:20:18
Speaker 16: The South is going to be going to be the
2:20:20
Speaker 16: problem children of the day, Brian. We've got Houston and
2:20:23
Speaker 16: Dallas is going to be seeing some weather delays. Atlanta
2:20:26
Speaker 16: minimal now but getting worse as the day progresses. So
2:20:28
Speaker 16: if you're flying anywhere south through any of those hubs
2:20:31
Speaker 16: on Delta, United or American or Southwest, you're going to
2:20:35
Speaker 16: see some significant delays. Just to be prepared for that.
2:20:38
Speaker 16: Anything through Chicago, the Northeast rough out West so far
2:20:40
Speaker 16: looks at being pretty good shape.
2:20:42
Speaker 1: Well appreciate the update as always, Jay Ratliff, congratulations on
2:20:45
Speaker 1: a banner month trading over there. Thirty grand in a month,
2:20:47
Speaker 1: that's not bad. I could live on that.
2:20:50
Speaker 16: That's why I'm trading my students. But you know the
2:20:53
Speaker 16: thing is, though you know we I don't know, I
2:20:56
Speaker 16: just corporate America always bothers me, and I'm just glad
2:20:59
Speaker 16: I'm not a part of it because this time of year,
2:21:01
Speaker 16: when I hear people losing their jobs unexpectedly, it just
2:21:04
Speaker 16: takes me off because you know, they look at us
2:21:07
Speaker 16: as interchangeable parts, and it just it's bothered me my
2:21:10
Speaker 16: whole life, and I just not the time of year
2:21:12
Speaker 16: you want to hear somebody losing their job.
2:21:14
Speaker 1: No, you don't have to be a W two employee
2:21:15
Speaker 1: and you can still make a decent living. Asked Jay,
2:21:17
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it all day long, Jay, rylef
2:21:19
Speaker 1: until next Thursday. God bless you, sir, you have a wonderful,
2:21:21
Speaker 1: wonderful week and