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David Smith: The Guardian Washington Bureau Chief gives an update on the Gaza peace deal · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: So we have movement, a lot of movement overnight on
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  Speaker 1: this peace steel over Gaza, and the President announcing that
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  Speaker 1: in the next well next week, the first few days
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  Speaker 1: of next week, we should have hostages being released.
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  Speaker 2: We are getting the hostages back on on Tuesday, Monday
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  Speaker 2: or Tuesday, and that'll be a day of joy. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna try and make a trip over We're going to
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  Speaker 2: try and get over there.
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  Speaker 1: It's all happening in phases. David Smith is Washington Bureau
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  Speaker 1: chief for The Guardian with us this morning. David, So,
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  Speaker 1: this is quite a momentous moment, but still a lot
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  Speaker 1: of water to go under the bridge.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. I think we have learned from past
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  Speaker 3: experience to always treat these announcements with caution and not
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  Speaker 3: every breakthrough is what it appears. But I think it
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  Speaker 3: would be fair to say this is by far the
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  Speaker 3: closest we've come to and to this war. And it's
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  Speaker 3: not just Donald Trump saying that that, Israel and Hamas
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  Speaker 3: indicating that's the case, and certainly some signs of tremendous
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  Speaker 3: relief on the ground that this could at least be
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of the end. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I guess everyone will feel more certain about that if indeed,
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  Speaker 3: as Trump says, hostages are returned on Monday or Tuesday,
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  Speaker 3: and if Israel agrees to you know, stop its well,
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  Speaker 3: movie its sources back to the to the agreed line,
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  Speaker 3: and we actually see a secession as hostilities.
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  Speaker 1: And then you can start getting humanitarian aiden to the
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  Speaker 1: Palestinians all that sort of stuff. What happens after that, like,
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  Speaker 1: what is phase two? Do we know?
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  Speaker 3: Well? I think it's going to get more complicated, of course,
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  Speaker 3: after those headline breakthroughs, and there are still some puddles
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  Speaker 3: to clear here, such as the disarmament of Hamas are
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  Speaker 3: set out in that peace plan, and it's not especially
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  Speaker 3: clear how that will be conducted and whether all members
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  Speaker 3: of Her Mass will agree. Even going further forward, maybe
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  Speaker 3: more like sort of phase three or four, obviously one
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  Speaker 3: has to look to the future governance of Gaza and Tybe.
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  Speaker 3: This plan suggests that neither her Mass nor the Palestinian
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  Speaker 3: authority should play any part in that. And I think
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  Speaker 3: something to watch is what is Donald Trump's commitment to
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  Speaker 3: all of that. The peace plans suggest there'll be some
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  Speaker 3: kind of independent international oversight body shared by Trump that
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  Speaker 3: will will oversee you s effectively Phase two, three and
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  Speaker 3: four and so on. But you know, from what we
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  Speaker 3: know about Trump, does he have the staying power, the
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  Speaker 3: the the attention span. Frankly, you know, after he's had
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity he declared victory and get a great headline.
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  Speaker 3: We know psychologically he's a kind of person who does
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  Speaker 3: tend to then get distracted and move on to a
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  Speaker 3: thousand other issues. But that said, you know there's a
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  Speaker 3: team of Steve Wikoff, special envoy, Jared Kushner, his son
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  Speaker 3: in law, others who maybe are determined to follow through
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  Speaker 3: on this, and of course it's all been backed up
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  Speaker 3: by international partners such as you know, Turkey and Katar
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  Speaker 3: and so on.
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  Speaker 1: David appreciate that analysis. This is one of David Smith,
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  Speaker 1: Washington bureau chief for The Guardian. For more from Early
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