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- 0:00[Music] welcome to multiple
- 0:03nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
- 0:07Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
- 0:13Things nerdy oh my God that wide connection you
- 0:19have now is so much better yeah it sounds like I'm actually in the room or
- 0:24it sounds like you're in the room it does it's like where also now I won't
- 0:27just be quiet and just assume you're still talking yeah it won't be necessary yeah the
- 0:32Wi-Fi here is not great especially down in the basement where we live now cuz I
- 0:37wanted to use the wide Network more efficiently I bought a new adapter for
- 0:40my MacBook I have one of those MacBooks that's got uh one USBC Port you know the
- 0:45one that everyone made fun of and I I included made fun of
- 0:49it and now how great is it I bought one yeah it's pretty good
- 0:53um except it does only have one port so
- 0:58um I have to get like some
- 1:01adapters but anyway I bought this uh USB network adapter and I plugged it in
- 1:08yesterday to test it and opened up my web browser and just
- 1:13instinctively typed in blues
- 1:17news.com what Blues is that still around
- 1:21yes that used to be the site you went to you just went to for everything back in
- 1:26the day well yeah I I back when I was on dialup I I would connect and I'd be like
- 1:31is it working Blues news.com let's see what's going on in games but yeah it's
- 1:36still going that's been going what since the late 90s uh 1999 according to the copyright
- 1:42notice at the bottom of the website so actually no
- 1:471996 my mistake 1996 but yeah I just I mean this was uh
- 1:53this was my News website well was all of our news website I believe I remember I
- 1:59think Dave in introduced me to it back yeah it would have been Dave introduced
- 2:03me as well the format hasn't really changed on it I've just done there
- 2:06myself no it's pretty and you know what I was looking at it and I'm like this is
- 2:09a pretty good news website actually like it's very concise there's no there's no
- 2:13I mean not a lot of ads everywhere it's like it's you know I might start reading
- 2:20it again it's it's a good website there you go Steven hlip we're giving you a
- 2:23bit of a plug we love your website well I don't he's still nearly been doing his
- 2:28website for 20 years now yeah I wonder if he makes a living off this I mean if
- 2:32you're a listener which he's not but if you're a listener Stephen uh write in
- 2:36and let us know podcast at multiple nerd gm.com uh yeah well I don't know if he
- 2:42might have to make his living of this cuz just TR to look cuz I'm just
- 2:47looking don't know why I can't talk at the moment I got the same problem cuz
- 2:51this thing is always updated yeah it must be I'm having a look at
- 2:57when it updates though it looks like well it looks like one a day but I think
- 3:02what it is it's like it's just split up by days and each of these things is a
- 3:07post it's a little different to a normal blog definitely will be coming back here
- 3:12I don't know why I stopped coming here me either I think cuz all the new shiny
- 3:16websites came out with all I mean cuz like there's no images here it's just
- 3:19all text like this is perfect I don't know why why I bother looking at these
- 3:25other websites so anyway I could we old men and we just want to look at like a
- 3:32newspaper and that's what this is I'm playing Pac-Man now what do you mean
- 3:38playing Pac-Man how what on his website no on
- 3:43Google oh oh is it on like one of the
- 3:48Google what do they call
- 3:51them goog on Google Maps you can go
- 3:55there and just play Google um and play Pac-Man
- 4:00on Google Maps your neighborhood were you playing before we started what led
- 4:05you to do that I clicked on a link that
- 4:09said Google Pac-Man oh off Blues News yes okay and now I'm playing with
- 4:15Pac-Man Miss Pac-Man Miss Pac-Man cuz you always play as a girl yes yeah makes
- 4:21sense I'm doing pretty good too ah Blue Ghost ah red ghost run all right I'm got
- 4:28to turn this off I've stop playing now speaking of playing as a girl uh have
- 4:33you been playing more Mass Effect H have I been playing more Mass
- 4:40Effect um like to say that all my planets I've colonized are now 100%
- 4:45really mhm jeez all the arcs that we're missing I know where they
- 4:52are I got that under control okay and no spoilers cuz I am people
- 4:58keep saying cuz I I I bought it like as soon as it came out right which is like
- 5:01a day before you guys right but I don't get a lot of time to play games and
- 5:07people keep going oh you're probably much further in the game than I am and
- 5:10they're like oh I've done this and this and I'm like I'm [ __ ] still on ears
- 5:13like I haven't done anything I'm enjoying it you're sort of
- 5:18it's great but yeah you're you barely scratch the surface with this game I
- 5:22know I just the other day I got I went I was like I'll duck back to the Nexus and
- 5:27then I got back and it's like oh my God there's a new there's a Docking Bay
- 5:30there's like I got to do all this decision making pulling people out of
- 5:35cryo and kind of stuff I'm like oh wow that's what I mean I'm like I've hardly
- 5:40touched this game I just I don't think you should have purchased this
- 5:46game why because I'll never finish it cuz you'll never finish it well I will
- 5:51this is a big game I still I it took
- 5:56me over a year to finish Witcher 3 uh and I still I mean I didn't even
- 6:02finish it technically I just like power walked past all the quests to to finish
- 6:07the main story and then I still haven't finished either of the expansions I
- 6:11haven't even started blood and wine which is like the best expansion ever
- 6:14from what I've been told I just need to make more time to
- 6:18play video games I guess oh maybe um we might just have to cancel the podcast so
- 6:24I've got more time that means we won't talk to each other anymore Sor I don't
- 6:29like you guys anyway oh fine welcome to the last ever
- 6:34podcast day could have be bother coming that's right oh yeah he's not here uh
- 6:40he's I don't even know where he is where is he he's doing something I don't know
- 6:44he's doing something important no doubt yeah he's off I don't know in some
- 6:48country yeah doing something yeah pointing a camera at something but uh
- 6:54but you're still enjoying Mass Effect I assume yes I thought I would have it
- 6:58finished this week but no this week I'll have it finished how
- 7:02many hours have you put in um I don't actually know I might check my save do
- 7:07you know if the save has the amount of hours I don't know normally games like
- 7:11this they do show how long you've been playing it for yeah it's a shame you
- 7:16steam would tell you yeah they go you could have gone outside and lived your
- 7:21life but you've been here yep no I just want to go back and
- 7:27play it now well I've been playing it when I can but we've also uh Jenna and I are
- 7:34playing through Borderlands 2 together ah Co-op because we wanted to I know
- 7:39it's like I don't even know how old that game is now we never played the bunkers
- 7:43and badasses DLC uh and really yeah but and we really
- 7:48want to but like in order to do that you have to be level 30 something yes
- 7:54because and Tiny Tina is awesome you should have played that before I know I
- 7:58know all that I just just didn't um so we're trying to blast
- 8:03through and uh get to level 30 yeah so we can do the DLC some advice go a
- 8:09little bit higher than 30 all right cool not not because you won't be able
- 8:15to do it at 30 just to make it a little bit easier sure
- 8:19okay yeah or if you want it really easy when you get to play just invite me into your
- 8:25game all right well I would accept it's difficult we've been trying to play
- 8:32with people in Australia cuz I miss every like I miss a lot of people in
- 8:36Australia we got a lot of friends that I don't interact with very much now cuz
- 8:40you know our schedules are completely opposite and we're trying to organize
- 8:44when we can all play games and it's just it's not really happening cuz uh where I
- 8:51am I mean right now I'm sure the listeners already know this but it's uh
- 8:56it's nearly 9:00 a.m. here and it's nearly 11:00 p.m. there is that right
- 9:00mhm nearly so if I get up early very early there's a little bit of
- 9:04crossover uh and but on the weekends I guess is the only time we would be able
- 9:10to fine you you you organize to play with them as much as you want I be over
- 9:16here when do you when you want to play ly we've got our group too actually our
- 9:20group's going pretty good on uh Xbox now we've got uh yeah we getting lots of
- 9:24people in our club yeah if you want to join our club I don't know what the
- 9:27point of it is uh if you can help us F that out multiple nerdgasm Xbox Club
- 9:32it's club right we've done this before I can never remember I I always forget if
- 9:36it's it is Club it's a club it's not a group it's a club yeah makes it sound
- 9:40more exclusive mhm I don't know how it works do people
- 9:46just join or do they invite us to join I'm confused uh I get a notification
- 9:51that someone has requested or I I get like well it's weird I get an invitation
- 9:56request which is like I guess someone saying please invite me and then I I do
- 10:01and then they join so I don't know the wording is weird but yeah I guess if you
- 10:05ask to join uh we will approve you we'll say yes we we accept everyone yeah it's
- 10:10not not very exclusive unless you're a dick then we
- 10:14then we will ban you yeah and if you're a dick you be able to join because you
- 10:17won't be able to hold a controller unless you're a dick with
- 10:21arms in which case please join the
- 10:24club it's comedy comedy gold comedy gold you can't just make jokes about Dick and
- 10:31expect it to be funny there's one thing Chiller 7 has taught us dicks aren't
- 10:36funny they kind of are it's true speaking of dicks uh did you see this
- 10:42thread on cheap ass gamer where a gentleman uh purchased from uh Amazon
- 10:49warehouse a Nintendo switch uh with at a bit of a discount he uh thought he could
- 10:55get a good deal on a Nintendo switch they go for 300 bucks here I think uh
- 11:01and this one was 260 something uh 269 so it's a little
- 11:06bit little bit of a discount yep uh and it's you know Amazon warehouse I guess
- 11:11is like refurbished or returned items uh so I guess someone someone
- 11:16bought the switch and returned it and then uh and now it's been sold on again
- 11:21by Amazon uh inspected according to the website this was inspected and
- 11:27approved and uh this gentleman received his Nintendo
- 11:32switch which I'm I'm making air quotes uh to find Inside the Box a Wii with no
- 11:39power adapter or anything just a just a [ __ ] Wii I don't know I have a hard time
- 11:44believing this really I don't I don't
- 11:49because I've had uh is that because you think Amazon is reputable and they
- 11:53wouldn't allow this to happen well the yeah the fact that it
- 11:57was checked right by someone I think it
- 12:02probably wasn't uh checked and I've had
- 12:06some weird stuff with Amazon Amazon now
- 12:09is like there's a bunch of sellers on there who are it's like eBay almost
- 12:16right where it's another company selling it and then Amazon fulfills it in some
- 12:22cases or in other cases it's just another company using Amazon as a
- 12:25platform to sell the other week I tried to buy an adapter and what I got sent
- 12:31was a completely a card reader basically you know like a multi card reader like a
- 12:35SD card oh yep yep um I got sent one of those instead of uh this USB adapter
- 12:42that I wanted and like it doesn't even look the same they just sent completely
- 12:46the wrong thing and then uh I had to send it back and get a
- 12:52refund and then they wouldn't like you know they wouldn't just send out the
- 12:55correct thing I had to [ __ ] around and send it back and then they checked it
- 12:58and all this kind of stuff and I'm like to ship the right thing like I think
- 13:01Amazon's not not as good as they used to be maybe like this was this was
- 13:05fulfilled by Amazon so as far as I understand it Amazon themselves just
- 13:12shipped me the wrong thing they picked up the wrong thing off the shelf have
- 13:15you seen the robots they Ed to do it no I haven't I went for AWS training a few
- 13:20years ago and uh and they showed us this
- 13:23video in the warehouses here they have a bunch of people sitting at uh little
- 13:29booths and when an order comes through it gets sent to them and then sent out
- 13:34to these little little robots uh and the warehouse you can't walk out onto the
- 13:39warehouse floor it's like roads in between all these shelves and these
- 13:44robots like and when I say robots I mean like these little square [ __ ] Ro like
- 13:50robot platform things go follow the roads around to the the rack where the
- 13:57item is supposed to be and then they use the little robot arms to grab it and
- 14:02then bring it back to the people on the at the booth and the people at the booth
- 14:06are supposed to check it and say is this the right thing like I think usually it
- 14:09grabs like a basket with a bunch of these items in and then you take the
- 14:14item and then they the humans pack it and uh and then give it to like another
- 14:18robot to take it away to be shipped like it's actually there was it they uh
- 14:24showed us a video there's a I don't know if it's on YouTube or if it's available
- 14:28I'll if I can find I'll put in the show notes but uh it's actually pretty amazing
- 14:33but uh I think they [ __ ] up sometimes mistakes
- 14:38happen yeah so I think but also if you if you're actually not going through
- 14:43exactly through Amazon but one of those third parties people who sell through
- 14:48them yeah you're probably getting it through them not Amazon well there's a
- 14:52lot of fake stuff on Amazon too like uh same as eBay you know like you buy like
- 14:57a you buy Nintendo switch and you get a Nintendo switch like that kind of thing
- 15:04and also there was a big thing recently where people were selling
- 15:09books but they would get the the EB of the book print their own cheap shitty
- 15:16version of the book and then sell it on Amazon and so people were buying like uh
- 15:22you know like computer related books are quite expensive mhm yep there was like a
- 15:26python book uh Python's program language that the uh the author to to figure out
- 15:33what was going on CU people complaining about the bad quality of his book like
- 15:37in print and he was like what are you talking about like it's it's a really
- 15:40good quality book so he ordered one off Amazon himself and got this cheap [ __ ]
- 15:45like photocopied version of his book off off Amazon and then so now they've
- 15:51apparently put in checks to to resolve all that you think Amazon would already
- 15:56have checks in place for that type of stuff they're too big they're too big now that's the
- 16:01problem there's too much going on they can't just hurry up and come to
- 16:05Australia though oh yeah see I order a lot of stuff of Amazon now I have Amazon
- 16:10Prime so see I'm complaining about all this stuff but it's actually really
- 16:13convenient with Amazon Prime I pay uh 100 bucks a year and I get free shipping
- 16:20free two-day shipping if I order something it is here in 2 days well the
- 16:26second it gets here I will be getting that they have to make it available it's
- 16:31already paid for itself mhm cuz I order I don't know what I order I order this
- 16:36network adapter that I'm using right now off them free shipping well not free I
- 16:40paid for it in advance but two day shipping I want to do the thing where
- 16:45you just go you set up an alert for anything that's a dollar and free
- 16:48shipping just send it to me oh yeah just send it yep no matter what it is just
- 16:54send it my way yeah and then you have to review whatever it is on this
- 16:59podcast can do just wait for I'm also cuz do they
- 17:06have are they going to have the drones where you are oh I don't know see that's
- 17:10funny too there's the there was an article about that guy who shot down the
- 17:15Drone uh over his house and he was found
- 17:20to be in the right they said you can't fly a drone over someone's property so I
- 17:24don't know how that's going to go with uh with the old Amazon drones cuz I
- 17:29think that's the going to be really awesome like you can order something and
- 17:33it can be at your house within an hour type of thing they have Amazon lockers
- 17:38uh somewhere near us cuz I always see that option on the checkout I've never
- 17:41done it though but it's like a and I've seen the lockers when we were on our
- 17:47road trip but not not in Rhode Island somewhere else but it's basically like
- 17:52at a I think the ones I saw were at the side of like a gas station it's like a
- 17:56big rack of lockers with the Amazon logo and basically you say at checkout I want
- 18:03to pick it up from an Amazon Locker and then for free they'll just put it in one and tell
- 18:09you which locker it is and the code and then you go have you seen one of the
- 18:12Amazon stores no I have not well you just walk in take what you want off the
- 18:17shelf and walk out what yep what do you mean I don't
- 18:23know how it works you basically you that's how it
- 18:27works well no it it is there is a probably one or two more steps to it
- 18:33that you have to scan it with your phone or something for it you still pay for it
- 18:38but you don't deal with anyone you walk in pick it up off the shelf and then
- 18:42walk out the store okay it is a thing or
- 18:47I've made it up I may have pred it listeners if you know whether this is
- 18:52true or not podcast at multip nerdgasm tocom M nerdgasm on Twitter multiple
- 18:57nerdgasm on Facebook uh multiple NM on Instagram if you've seen or heard of
- 19:03these Amazon stores where you just walk in and take what you want and
- 19:08leave let us know Al listen are very good at factchecking
- 19:12us cuz we're not no oh we did get an answer on the Mars thing too the other
- 19:17week actually okay we're jumping ahead oh not jumping ahead jumping completely
- 19:22sideways here Nate uh did a little
- 19:25calculation on on what the delay would be if you were on Mars okay uh for new
- 19:32listeners who don't know we're trying to send Luke to Mars yeah basically and go
- 19:37and live there so that he can live there well actually no the I think most
- 19:41recently you were going to you're going to be cloned or copied and teleported
- 19:45there right you're going to be teleported and then there would be two
- 19:48of you yeah one here I'm okay for that as well any any any way to get me there
- 19:53and the one that's here would have to work to support the one that's on Mars
- 19:57playing video games right yeah cuz the one that's on Mars is doing nothing
- 20:01which one is going to do the podcast I guess it would have to be the one on
- 20:04Mars because they one the one he is not going to be able to talk about the video
- 20:09games cuz he's not playing yeah also he's going be working to death right all
- 20:14right so uh Nate says uh it depends on where on Mars you are a Martian day is
- 20:19one day and 37 minutes like one Earth day so it'll be different every week by
- 20:243 or 4 hours and the lag is 20 minutes 20 light minutes between Earth and Mars
- 20:28so it'll have to be at a time when the signal can be sent so when either
- 20:31Singapore or Rhode Island is facing Mars uh I don't know if we'll ever get both
- 20:35of us we might have to put like a big mirror above Singapore or above well no
- 20:40I don't think we need to get into that because it doesn't need to be pointing
- 20:44at both of you all it has to be is whatever satellite oh we just R the
- 20:49connection yeah right yeah good point good point I've been a fool I've been a
- 20:54fool all right but there is going to be that 20 minute delay still that's still
- 20:58going to be a big thing yeah well I mean now that I've got this
- 21:05cable maybe it won't be so bad if we could just get a really long network
- 21:09cable from here to Mars I think that'll solve it I think that' be good because I
- 21:14really do hate Wireless and I'm hoping to have um wired up there yeah and I
- 21:19mean I don't know if uh what is what is it cat cat five uh and then cat six was
- 21:26like better I don't know details someone's going to
- 21:31correct me on this so maybe what we need is cat 7 cabling and so there'll be zero
- 21:37lag between here and Mars I'm pretty sure that's what cat 7's for y yep does
- 21:41cat 7 exist I don't know cable oh my God it
- 21:47does cat 7 cable
- 21:53see no lag between Earth and Mars Perfect all right so that's what we need
- 21:59how much would it cost to buy a cable long enough to go from Earth to Mars
- 22:04listeners how much would it cost to get a cable from here to M I bought uh this
- 22:09cable that I'm using right now was 20 bucks on Amazon and that's another thing
- 22:14that I bought uh and
- 22:17it's it's 25 ft long I think and it was
- 22:2320 bucks or was it 10 bucks [ __ ] I don't know you
- 22:29this is the worst
- 22:31podcast Jill 7 you were
- 22:36right we are the [ __ ] worst I'm gonna look I'm logging into
- 22:41Amazon now I can actually do things on the computer now while I'm talking which
- 22:45I think that's a problem yeah it may be good and it may be bad for for the
- 22:49podcast in general but uh before it wasn't possible all right it was it was
- 22:56$949 uh it was cat 6 so we couldn't it's not c 7 we can't use it to talk to Mars
- 23:00and it's 50 ft long so I was completely
- 23:05wrong it's 50 ft long and it cost me $949 did you only buy this like last
- 23:11week or something I bought it on it
- 23:14arrived on the 26th of March which
- 23:18was like last week yeah and you've already forgotten about it well the
- 23:23problem is it's in feet right which means nothing to me no it's not a real
- 23:29measurement it's like when I I told you we talked about this already when I did
- 23:32my driver's test for here all the questions about how many feet do you
- 23:36have to stop from a intersection like [ __ ] I don't know like how big's a foot
- 23:41I don't know like everyone's feet are
- 23:45different well I mean there is a an accepted constant but I don't know what
- 23:49it is so that's why I can't remember Fe I don't accept it no well you wouldn't
- 23:56cuz you're all about the Empire yeah y so you're Imperial I'm metric y makes
- 24:01sense Rebellion okay yep good stuff uh speaking of the Wii which we were before
- 24:08we got sidetracked have you touched yours um
- 24:12since uh we spoke last no and that's not even last week that's the week before
- 24:17lastre that's the week before it's actually pissing me off at the moment
- 24:23even though you haven't touched it even though I haven't touched it because it
- 24:26sits there in its dark do thing just sitting there taunting you
- 24:31but every probably 15 20 minutes it'll it'll go hours and nothing will happen
- 24:37and then all of a sudden for once a minute for about 15 minutes it'll pop up
- 24:41to say HDMI 2 is connected goes away
- 24:45then T HDMI 2 is connected and s p oh like it switches your TV playing you
- 24:52what's no no it's just a it tells you yeah television just goes like you got a
- 24:57connection right and it's like switch I'm not going to play you go
- 25:02away yeah stop annoying me while I'm playing the Xbox and enjoying this yeah
- 25:09yeah you probably shouldn't have bought it no I'm looking forward to the first
- 25:13time I go on a flight though yeah yeah good point have you tasted the game
- 25:19cartridge yet we we did it when we were on the air oh that's right yeah okay SP
- 25:24you when I tasted it cuz someone told us all right fine
- 25:28that was ages ago it was two weeks ago I don't remember [ __ ] people ask me all
- 25:32the time about stuff that we talk about in the show I don't
- 25:37remember like especially if it's years ago people will like which I mean I love
- 25:43that people listen to the old episodes right but I don't so I don't remember
- 25:47what we talked about we do this every week I can't be I can't be expected to
- 25:50remember everything Luke but uh a
- 25:55listener uh confirmed that it is in fact the same stuff that you put on your
- 26:02fingernails oh you would love it then yeah so um oh it's not it's Phil it was
- 26:08Phil and it was in a message that's why I couldn't find it thank you very much
- 26:12thank you Phil do you have any plans to buy any other switch
- 26:17games oh do I um Mario Party when it comes out
- 26:23uhhuh and I probably will get Mario yeah which well I Me Assume
- 26:29they'll make one they're they're definitely making a Mario it's Mario
- 26:33Galaxy is it I want to say like a remake no no no it's a it's a new
- 26:40one Mario Galaxy was really good on the Wii no it's not Mario Galaxy
- 26:46then it's not a good one it's it's a Mario game they will release a Mario
- 26:53game yeah of course several I just have to get around the finishing Zelda
- 26:59I don't know how this game got great reviews really I really don't I don't know why
- 27:05people are going on about it and raving about and saying how good it is this
- 27:08game is terrible okay why you were enjoying it at first right no even at
- 27:14first I was a bit the weapons just start breaking every five minutes annoys
- 27:20me this just so much about this game I don't like huh well I'm glad I main the
- 27:26fact that I suck at it yeah I can see you would be annoyed by
- 27:31that it's not often I suck at a game oh
- 27:34speaking of you sucking at a game I um I played uh some Halo
- 27:402 the other day uh just against someone
- 27:44here in the US uh got your ass kicked no
- 27:48no no no uh I actually haven't played Halo in uh a very long time I haven't
- 27:54played Halo since Halo 3 but uh it was fun uh but then it reminded me of that
- 27:58time we went up to manab Bar in Queensland and those like [ __ ] Pro um
- 28:05uh Halo players were there like there's a team of like I don't know from some
- 28:09league and uh you took them on and they just yelled abuse at you because you
- 28:15were so terrible which was funny because I mean you are better than
- 28:19me I think you were find out yelling abuse at you oh I mean no no no I'm not
- 28:23going to deny all when you were [Music] flying yeah that
- 28:29inside the room yeah that happened also why are you in
- 28:34that yeah do you know how to fly that thing no then why are you flying it
- 28:41because yeah that was hilarious it was it it made me think of that though and
- 28:46it kind of made me want the Master Chief Collection so that we could play Halo
- 28:50but what's the point cuz you could really only play that
- 28:55in Co-op now I doubt you able to get many matchmaking going in that you're
- 29:01not going to get a good game of G Going it doesn't no that was the classic it
- 29:05doesn't have firefight either no which was my favorite game mode like hord mode
- 29:09uh see I I was interested in the new gears for The Horde mode but I don't I
- 29:15I've played a little bit of the new gears and I don't like it have you
- 29:19played it really yeah I've got probably about a third of the way through and
- 29:24then other games came out and I got distracted I just don't like I know the
- 29:28the style of it is very different the the whole art style and and I mean it's
- 29:32robots you're playing as his son and well I I didn't didn't even know that but uh
- 29:39the the the art style they were robots and I don't know it's just I don't like
- 29:46it as much it's not as horror themed it's more yeah well that unfortunately
- 29:52with horror games and RPGs the more copies they sell and the
- 29:57more sequel they make the less it goes away from that horror and RPG feel right
- 30:02because Dead Space is a good example of that yeah yeah totally love the first
- 30:07Dead Space that was a great game and then the second one got a bit more of a
- 30:12co-op action shooty thing and then the third one I didn't even bother
- 30:16playing I've got the third one and I don't think it's I think it's still on
- 30:19the shrimp rack really need to stop buying games if we're not going to play
- 30:24them I think I'm the worst for it yeah you probably are I'm pretty bad I've got
- 30:29uh I got mankind divided in a sale months ago I haven't played it yet cuz I
- 30:35want to devote time to it and then I'm realizing that's just not going to
- 30:38happen so maybe I should just start I've forgot I've got that as well I haven't
- 30:41actually finished the first one yet yeah ah really the first one was great I
- 30:46actually did finish that I did the silly thing of trying to go for an achievement
- 30:51which don't kill anyone right oh which yeah which is something you should never
- 30:56do in your first playthrough but then I got to the second boss couldn't beat
- 31:01them cuz I was also playing on hard got the shits uninstalled it haven't played
- 31:05it since if you um if you want to just get through a game choosing to not kill
- 31:11people is not the way to do it generally no because every time you make a mistake
- 31:15you have to reload or something yep and you got to go a lot slower and yeah yeah
- 31:20not if you want to just get through a game you're actually better just to
- 31:23throw it une easy and just run and Gun truth but I will never do
- 31:29that doesn't surprise me oh speaking of achievements uh the new Xbox dashboard
- 31:34is out you've probably had this for a while because you're a yep in the beta
- 31:38program yeah uh I mean you haven't mentioned this at all so uh you know I
- 31:43don't know I don't know why this hasn't come up but the achievement tracker
- 31:47seems like something you'd be into I really haven't used it yet okay but yeah
- 31:54I I've I don't know why since I went to the new tracker I haven't really like it
- 31:58I used to what I used to do was snap the old achievement bar up have just to the
- 32:03side and I'd have that and I'd see that slowly ticking up but since the tracker
- 32:07came out I stopped doing that and I don't know why cuz you don't um you just
- 32:11don't snap anything anymore is that right did they take snap they got rid of
- 32:15that feature yeah okay that's what I thought oh the other thing too I haven't
- 32:18looked at this yet right but did they remove Twitch streaming all together
- 32:22it's got that beam thing instead no no you can still twitch right you can still
- 32:29stream that way but beam is their they've made beam a lot easier to use
- 32:35what's beam never even heard of it beam is the Microsoft oh all right yeah makes
- 32:40sense y all right all right yeah but well the achievement tracker for
- 32:44listeners who don't know don't have an Xbox or haven't updated theirs yet or
- 32:46whatever now if you want to uh track an achievement on Xbox you know like say
- 32:52kill five goats you uh can go to your achievement list and then flag it and
- 32:58it'll show a little box in the bottom right hand corner of the screen or I
- 33:02don't maybe it's configurable but by defaults bottom right hand corner of the
- 33:04screen and it'll say you've killed two or five goats or whatever and then what
- 33:09do you got against goats why we killing goats you go to they just smelly and
- 33:14kind of Shifty looking that's all okay one of my favorite games uh in recent
- 33:20years sunless C uh is now available on
- 33:26iPad so I am now able to play that wherever I am as long as I have my iPad which is
- 33:33generally anywhere I take it around with me and have you played that yeah it's on
- 33:38PC as well have you played it at all you own it you should play it man it's
- 33:43really good I've talked about it before uh it's it's very text based actually
- 33:48you wouldn't like it you hate reading forget it you wouldn't like
- 33:52it like you it's literally a reading game with a little bit of other stuff to do
- 33:58is the other stuff fun yeah okay it's it's like an exploration game uh where
- 34:04you sail around an ocean discovering things and then when you arrive at
- 34:08various ports it's like a Choose Your Own Adventure stuff you do stuff and
- 34:13then you travel between them and and do all this stuff it's very uh dark and
- 34:18weird it's kind of kind of love crafty and horror uh it's a little bit uh
- 34:24surreal um but it's really cool wow I don't actually own it I think it's it's
- 34:3020 bucks normally uh but it's it's often on sale and I highly recommend it 20
- 34:35bucks I'm going to wait for it to be on sale I highly recommend it um but yeah I
- 34:40don't know if you'd like it how's it play on the iPad good yeah yeah like it
- 34:43holds up the controls are a little bit different but I mean because most of it
- 34:46is is text so you kind of scroll and choose what you want to do and then and
- 34:51then controlling the ship you know it it it works well I haven't had any issues
- 34:55with it I mean maybe generally I find with the
- 34:58iPad um sometimes in combat games it's a
- 35:03little clunky like I found uh Legend of Grimrock which I really enjoyed I loved
- 35:09it on the iPad until it got kind of harder and then it's it's I find it
- 35:13clunky to to control and and get into people's inventories and stuff like that
- 35:18I don't know I think I'm just faster with the mouse so uh yeah I didn't like
- 35:24it that as much as I got further into the game um but this so far is good yeah
- 35:29I never got into playing games on the um the iPad when I had it and I think it's
- 35:35just because I had like a older generation iPad so right didn't really
- 35:39like it that it didn't play well okay on the iPad so I got rid of it now I've got
- 35:44a switch yeah which you also don't play anything on mhm and in other game news
- 35:49they have announced Battlefront too that wish we knew they were always going to I
- 35:55know but like I've been burnt now by the first one one was a great game
- 36:01yeah but no one's playing it anymore nope and the same thing same think
- 36:05happens with every game yeah I suppose the multiplayer you you can still go on
- 36:10there and get a game but you'll be playing the same people over and over
- 36:15again in the same match type yeah but there's one difference with the Star
- 36:20Wars Battlefront 2 what's that there's a single player this time oh really I
- 36:24didn't read that bit yes yeah they made a mistake they that the first game
- 36:29needed a single player campaign right yeah because you just can't play it
- 36:34unless you play it online yeah that you could play like the training Mission
- 36:38things but you you couldn't do all the modes no but still it's still going to
- 36:44be the same when it comes out you'll have like the multiplayer those modes
- 36:47that have to be online to play and then there's going to be The Campaign which I
- 36:51I like the campaign more yeah they should let you play this is what I think anyway
- 36:58EA or dice or whoever is making this thing uh they should let you play any of
- 37:04the modes with Bots H it's very strange that they
- 37:10didn't have bots in it yeah I mean we've had those for a long
- 37:15time we had bots in Quake they know how to make that they they know how to make
- 37:20AI That's you know fine yeah like this this would be a
- 37:24great game for Bots like that's what made the um the AAL fighting so far was
- 37:28there was ships everywhere exactly but you can't do that without playing
- 37:33online and also like Co-op like you and I should be able to just play a game
- 37:37against bots if we want y that would be
- 37:41cool yes all right well I'm cautiously optimistic at this point
- 37:48based on you know you're going to get that one no matter what anyway yeah shut
- 37:51up I know like I didn't get the Rogue one expansion for the first game even
- 37:56though I wanted to cuz I was like I don't think anyone's playing this
- 37:59anymore what happens is the expansion comes out a lot of people go back play
- 38:03the expansion and then they drop off again yeah yeah which is annoying
- 38:08because I still got achievements for it have you played the Mass Effect
- 38:11multiplayer yet I tried it I didn't understand what was happening and I
- 38:15stopped okay I found it to be pretty
- 38:19good so far really yeah I just try cuz you're not playing as yourself you're
- 38:25playing as one of your stke team people right yeah but I mean it's just a
- 38:31different character that you make like make an additional character I have no
- 38:36feelings for that character yeah you want to play as rer they can die and I won't
- 38:41care did you make your own character model or did you use the default I don't
- 38:45know did we disc I made my own yeah okay I haven't seen what yours looks like not
- 38:49a not a didn't go into a lot of detail like a normally good cuz I don't know
- 38:53the editor just did not feel right no Mass Effect Ed always looked bit wrong
- 38:58yeah they always do I don't know why I don't know why they can't get that right
- 39:03cuz it is sort of important like this is you're actually going to look at this
- 39:07character for a lot of the game yeah that's why I almost prefer it when you
- 39:13don't have a character creator like you know like in Witcher it's geralt like
- 39:17and and they can spend time making sure he looks correct you
- 39:23know whereas with this yeah yeah character creators they never look right
- 39:29and people spend a hell of a lot of time trying to get their character right did
- 39:33they always have one slide out wrong yeah like the character will look wrong
- 39:38forever I always said I told I said this last time I'm sure my guy looks just
- 39:42surprised all the time because his eyebrows are too high he just always looks like he's
- 39:47surprised but other than that he looks fine they're all sort of people end up
- 39:51coming out they have their character will look great but then they turns
- 39:54aside they got like the huge duck lips and that's
- 39:58right yeah oh man when will they
- 40:02learn never we'll keep doing what do I wonder if there's going to be another
- 40:07Mass Effect though well I don't know what happens at the end of this one uh
- 40:11neither do I but they did say this is not going to be like a secret or Trilogy
- 40:15like this is its own story that's it cuz someone did there was people were
- 40:20talking at um packs because somebody on
- 40:24the panel said the word trilogy and everyone was like ooh and then other
- 40:30people were like no he's talking about the the original trilogy oh okay
- 40:36so I don't know this one's been pretty successful despite all the stupid backlash
- 40:41about you know various political things the internet is stupid yeah the game's
- 40:47actually really good so I think and it's been it's been
- 40:51successful right it's just oh yeah and people are mad about the animations I
- 40:55saw an article actually I didn't put it in the spreadsheet cuz we talked about a
- 40:59little bit already that apparently they outsourc the animations or something for
- 41:03it but yeah I don't know who cares I
- 41:07know one thing that they said like they coded it and then they sent the cut
- 41:11scenes were done by another team and that they may have just done it wrong
- 41:16who cares at the end of the day it doesn't look that bad it's not that bad
- 41:21their eyes W around a little more than I would like but you know it's fine I
- 41:25don't know if they've released a patch or anything cuz or I've just gotten used
- 41:28to it because I actually I don't I get a feeling they're looking a little better
- 41:31now I thought that actually because you know I said that my guy looks a bit
- 41:34Goofy and surprised he he whether I'm just used to him now but it seems in the
- 41:39last couple of days he he's not as bad so either I'm getting used to the way he
- 41:45looks or they've patched something but I don't know why they would have fixed
- 41:49that like I don't know why that would be affected yeah I I think I have just
- 41:54gotten used to my character but I don't know they do feel a little different now
- 41:57unless they've toned down some of the animation like you know just put the
- 42:01slider down for some of it cuz one of the things that people said and I've
- 42:06noticed it too is that people's eyes are very jumpy in the game like they they
- 42:11they're looking around and [ __ ] everything all the time uh so maybe they
- 42:15toned some of that stuff down or maybe
- 42:19we're just used to it yeah I think maybe it might be a little bit of both yeah it
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- 47:47that's right [ __ ] piece of
- 47:52[ __ ] stupid bloody service anyway here's a coupon code
- 47:59um I'm sure bl's fine it just doesn't interest me I used the Australian I used
- 48:05the Australian version for a little while what's that uh True Blue Apron I
- 48:12forget that a great joke something fresh huh I'm gonna go see a movie soon
- 48:18I think it's been a while I'm going to go see life this week I
- 48:23think that's the um it's got that guy in it doesn't it yeah
- 48:30Ryan Ry Deadpool Ryan WN it does indeed I have a cold I
- 48:36apologize listeners which which forces me to say why and wolds you apologize to your
- 48:42listeners but not me oh sorry Luke I'm sorry I don't want you apology sorry wuk
- 48:49thank you uh so I'm going to see that this week so I'll talk about it next
- 48:54week um cool but they announced this week well it's it's sort of announced it
- 49:00seems like this article makes it sound like it's happening but I've also seen
- 49:04other places that said it's just a rumor or whatever but Jos wed is doing a
- 49:11Batgirl movie apparently wed Weeden
- 49:15wed what you said it wrong is it Weeden it's Weeden but it how can it be it's
- 49:22it's there's no long e in there it's Weeden is it yes all right
- 49:29fine just weed is doing a Batgirl movie
- 49:34apparently yeah he's in negotiations yeah I wonder know what is with these
- 49:40directors that get to do both you got JJ did Star Wars and Star Trek and
- 49:47now you got Weeden who's doing Marvel n DC they can't stop him well I guess they
- 49:52could if they put it in the contract but I guess they
- 49:55didn't I mean I'm optimistic about this
- 49:58I think he would do a good job hopefully
- 50:03he would bring a bit of the comic book feel to it that I think has been missing
- 50:09from the DC stuff although as we've discussed maybe that's not what they
- 50:15want maybe I just don't like the DC feel
- 50:19but I like uh Batgirl's cool I'd actually be surprised if they went with
- 50:24Joss yeah well it doesn't fit with because current slate yeah what they're
- 50:28doing no yeah they're all very serious and unless they may be thinking to
- 50:34switch it a little bit halfway through which I think is a very bold
- 50:40move yeah cuz they're very um very
- 50:44serious at this point yeah well you know
- 50:48he did uh he's done a great job with everything that he's done as far as I'm
- 50:54aware I'm not aware of anything bad that he's done so uh no I what they has I'm
- 51:00going to find something bad he's done dead hooker or something his
- 51:08surname
- 51:11Weeden what's he done I'm DB all right
- 51:15just all right um Agents of Shield
- 51:20ah Age of
- 51:22Ultron uh I don't think it was bad uh
- 51:30was did he direct watching on no I'm just looking at Theology and it's got
- 51:35buffing the vampire's layer triple X of
- 51:39parody he did uh he did direct Age of Ultron look that wasn't that's not my
- 51:45favorite uh movie Age of
- 51:50Ultron eh yeah I suppose this worst
- 51:54movies yeah Firefly Buffy angel Serenity uh oh he directed episodes of the office
- 52:01he wrote Alien Resurrection oh yeah I knew that all right there's something
- 52:05bad he's done yeah he didn't direct it though it's not his fault it turned out
- 52:09bad all right fine fine you win yep you
- 52:14win y yeah all right well hopefully this will be good hopefully this won't be
- 52:20Alien Resurrection I I'm gonna I'm going to go out there and call it he doesn't
- 52:25actually end up directing it really yeah what makes you say that it's
- 52:30not a good fit because it's DC yep and because of the to yeah I bet you it'll
- 52:36be like uh remember Edgar Wright was doing Ant-Man until Marvel and I think
- 52:41Edgar Wright would have done a great Ant-Man yeah but allegedly people got
- 52:46too many fingers in the pie and he got the shits and left yeah and man that
- 52:52movie it like it's got Edgar right all over it with the the good bits like it
- 52:59feels like oh that would have been funny if Edgar Wright had you know had his had
- 53:04assemble been on it yeah exactly yeah I can see how that would have fit in and
- 53:08it just wasn't done right but J does know how to play by the rules that's how
- 53:13we got Avengers Age of ulton yeah and he managed to sort out the uh uh the end of
- 53:19the first Avengers too because he didn't want to have the what are they called
- 53:23the [ __ ] aliens that showed up at the end he didn't want any of that yeah but
- 53:26he managed to to make it work yeah he can do that but I just don't
- 53:33think his sty at all would go with what DC are doing yeah no I agree with that
- 53:38it would have to be different but we'll just wait and see the just weird
- 53:43mind-numbing Holly do listen to us they do they do yeah let him do it
- 53:49his way let him do it his way speaking of it did you watch the it
- 53:55trailer I
- 53:58did I don't get it you don't get it no I never actually saw the original or read
- 54:05the book oh man you should do both I's a clown yeah yeah the book's really good
- 54:10lives in a sewer the book's like it's a typical Stephen King book it's [ __ ]
- 54:15awesome and then towards the end it's like wait what oh all right but it's not
- 54:20the worst of them he's not good at endings but uh yeah it's not it's
- 54:24certainly not the worst of them although it is a little weird the only book I've
- 54:28read by stepen King was actually Green Mile I haven't read that is it good
- 54:33that's a good that's great you should read that so in in uh in the new it
- 54:38Penny wise the clown is played by Bill
- 54:42Skarsgard and uh it looks [ __ ]
- 54:47terrifying it did look that oh yeah he just didn't know you you like you would
- 54:53like it did towards the end to started off with those didn't look too bad but
- 54:57at the end where that clown is running
- 54:59through the water yeah forget
- 55:05that I think it looks awesome but yeah this uh trailer has
- 55:10broken the record for the most views on the first day apparently on YouTube it's
- 55:16got uh something like 7 million views in the first day or something stupid like
- 55:20that let me have a look what's it up to now nearly 20 million views yeah it uh
- 55:25it like blasted through I think I'm going to boycott it why cuz it's too
- 55:30scary I want Tim Curry back I mean I don't disagree but have
- 55:36you seen Tim Curry lately did he have a stroke
- 55:40yeah God bless him poor
- 55:44guy it could just make it
- 55:48scarier yeah maybe maybe I'm excited it
- 55:53looks kind of 80s it's got that I don't know it's because it's got that kid from
- 55:57um stranger things in it so when I see it like like it it reminds me of
- 56:04stranger things so I maybe that's affecting my opinion of it but I think it looks pretty
- 56:09good and this is only the first part of the story because the thing about
- 56:16it the the book and the previous film it's kind of takes place half when
- 56:20they're kids and half when they're adults so uh apparently this is just the
- 56:27first bit when they're kids and if it's successful they'll make the rest of it
- 56:32two more to make it a Trilogy probably yeah then they'll make one where they'll
- 56:37add a bit where they're all old as well and then and then a sequel again where
- 56:43yeah it's some some new kids until they rebooted again in in 5
- 56:49years yep what are they going to call the sequel though cuz this is just called it
- 56:56but would
- 57:21[Music]
- 57:56weird and like the ending from I read it when I was young
- 58:01but I remember the ending and being like what so maybe I should read it again
- 58:07because I I absolutely adored like the first at least half of it and and probably a bit
- 58:14more but yeah now I've heard that some of his books do just tend to just Trail
- 58:20off well he he talks about in his book on writing which is like his about him
- 58:26and his craft and and that kind of stuff he talks about how he he believes that
- 58:31when he's writing the story exists and he's like a sculptor and he's got this
- 58:36big block of stone and he's chipping away and so he just starts at the
- 58:39beginning and writes and writes and writes and then he uncovers the story
- 58:42and that the story already exists he just has to find it and to me that's
- 58:47just [ __ ] what a load of crap it's
- 58:50it's nice as a metaphor sort of but to me that's just [ __ ] like that's not
- 58:55how that's not how story's work like he's making it up so but he he doesn't do
- 59:01any like prep or or what do you call it like uh outlining he doesn't outline the
- 59:06story very much at all he'll get an idea and he'll just sit down and write and so
- 59:11I think that's that's why some of his end funny cuz he gets to the you know a
- 59:17point and then he's like oh uh I have to wrap this up yeah deadline's due I need
- 59:23that check and I haven't thought about this yeah the end yeah and that's not to
- 59:28say like I [ __ ] love Stephen King but I do think I think he's mistaken about
- 59:33that I think that's not I mean it works for him and maybe he's not able to to
- 59:37come up with as much creative stuff when he does do outlining maybe that's a
- 59:42thing but I do think the reason he has Bad Endings a lot is because of his
- 59:47method yeah so soon King you hear that yeah fix your [ __ ] that's coming from me
- 59:52Matt ham Authur how many films have you got made
- 59:57of your book Stephen King [ __ ] listen to me I don't know
- 1:00:03what I'm talking about no how many fils have you got made ah
- 1:00:10plenty of them don't you worry how many books have I written is a better
- 1:00:15question heaps would you like to read some of them on the podcast well I could read
- 1:00:21you my Monkey Island fan fiction from when I was a kid I think we need to hear that next
- 1:00:28week I'll read an exerpt for it next week uh
- 1:00:33and and to be honest I didn't do a whole lot of outlining when I wrote it
- 1:00:38so there'll be some Monkey Island fanfiction I was going to send it to Ron
- 1:00:42Gilbert and then I was like he's not going to read this send it to him now
- 1:00:47it's it's a lot of pages I don't even know how many hang on let me I I scanned
- 1:00:52it all right so we should we wrap up this train wreck of a podcast train
- 1:00:56wreck what are you talking about oh this this episode's been off the rails what
- 1:01:00are you talking about this has been
- 1:01:05amazing has it we've given Stephen King some advice we've given DC some advice
- 1:01:12yeah we've given Battlefront Battlefront we've given dicea some
- 1:01:18advice we have yeah get a lot of advice this episode given the listeners some
- 1:01:22advice go to multiple nasm.com merch who who else do you want to give
- 1:01:26some advice to before we go
- 1:01:30um oh who else is there who has wronged me lately
- 1:01:37Nintendo how could Nintendo fix the switch for you oh very easy don't make
- 1:01:43it do what I said you should have done a year ago two years ago stop making
- 1:01:49consoles all right and just make games solved just
- 1:01:54make games yeah so like if come out on the Xbox say y yep fair enough I Reon I
- 1:02:01actually reckon they would make more money yeah probably because they sell
- 1:02:08more copies people they sell more copies of the game mhm and they wouldn't lose
- 1:02:12as much money designing and making consoles yeah do they make a ton of money in Japan
- 1:02:19though like it's possible that they do because I don't think they play oh they
- 1:02:24have the PlayStation in Japan obviously because it's so I don't think the Xbox
- 1:02:27is as big in Japan unless things have changed I remember that was it's it's
- 1:02:30still there but it's not as big CU I remember yeah they were they were not as
- 1:02:34big on the Xbox originally no still not but here's some
- 1:02:41advice for Japan give the Xbox a chance pretty
- 1:02:44good I like it we like it yeah I don't
- 1:02:49think I'm going going to get a PS4 this time this
- 1:02:54time I did get a p yeah I get one eventually never played
- 1:02:59it oh apparently there's some Scorpio news coming out next
- 1:03:02week I'm excited now yeah this is a little over the place isn't
- 1:03:08it sorry listeners Al would I say sorry
- 1:03:11about it no it's all fine
- 1:03:15yeah you can apologize all you like it's all right as I said like as a
- 1:03:22reward for getting through this episode next week they get some
- 1:03:26fanfic yeah I think that's a good tradeoff y well that's cuz you haven't
- 1:03:32you haven't read my fanfic yet also just to clarify this is not sexy fanfiction
- 1:03:38like this is just oh stop no it's not it's just a a story like I wrote the
- 1:03:44sequel to Monkey Island 2 when I was supposed to be doing exams in high
- 1:03:49school well can you make it a little
- 1:03:51sexy I'll see what I can do excellent
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