Latest / Mythmakers / Beyond Andy Serkis - Other Audiobook Versions of Tolkien's Works
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- 0:00Hello, welcome to MythMakers, the podcast for fantasy creatives and fantasy fans.
- 0:15Now my name is Julia Golding and I'm the director of the Oxford Centre for Fantasy who
- 0:21brings you this podcast.
- 0:23And we've promised to keep on ranging around all the themes to fantasy but today I thought
- 0:29I'd go back a little bit to an episode we did a couple of weeks ago about audio versions
- 0:35of Lord of the Rings.
- 0:37This was prompted by Andy Circus, producing his mammoth work, doing all the voices, but
- 0:45that may be go back and have a look at the other Tolkien inspired audiobooks out there
- 0:52beyond Lord of the Rings.
- 0:55So I thought I'd give you a rundown of the ones I know well and also I delved into some
- 0:59of the ones I don't yet know just so you know what's out there.
- 1:03Now we have to start again with Andy Circus because he did a version of the Hobbit last
- 1:09year in 2020.
- 1:11Now I think I remember him doing this as a lockdown project where he was doing like a reading
- 1:20as a sponsored reading.
- 1:22So clearly I think he must have then gone into the studio and done it under slightly
- 1:27more less pressurised circumstances.
- 1:31It's very much as you expect if you have listened to his Lord of the Rings reading you get
- 1:37a very pleasant romp through the Hobbit.
- 1:40It's a more what I would say more of an avuncular tone than Lord of the Rings which is inspired
- 1:46by the fact that the narrator is more present in the Hobbit than he is in Lord of the Rings.
- 1:53It has a bedtime story feel.
- 1:55But you also get the performance aspect with Andy Circus, you know, watch out for the
- 2:03riddle game with Bill Bowen-Gollum of course.
- 2:06That must be the set piece that everyone wants to listen to.
- 2:10I think when I'm listening to it what always comes into mind are the films because very often
- 2:16he hits exactly the same cadence on a piece of dialogue which has made it into the script
- 2:24channeling the actor who originally played it.
- 2:27Now that's absolutely fine to be expected because of course he was one of the assistant directors
- 2:35on the films but of course it does then bring to mind images from the film and if that's
- 2:42the experience you want as close to the Peter Jackson films as possible then obviously
- 2:48this is the version to go for but you do have a couple of other easily available options
- 2:55if you're going through the audible route for buying your audiobooks and that is going
- 3:00backwards in time 2005 Martin Shaw's version.
- 3:04This is a straightforward reading from an actor who's very well known here in the UK.
- 3:11He was someone I had a crush on when I was little because he was part of the professionals
- 3:17which was like a cop drama programme at the time but he's then gone on to do many roles
- 3:23on television in particular.
- 3:26When I was listening to the sample I found the sound quality wasn't that great, that
- 3:30might just have been the link I clicked on but if you are going to try that one do dust
- 3:37double check that the sound quality is what you expected.
- 3:41For me it seemed a little bit muffled and then going back before that there's dear old
- 3:46Robert Ingalls the 1991 production love this is the one that I think I can listen to again
- 3:55and again because it feels like Tolkien is reading to you.
- 4:01Very fond of the way he delivers it and I can listen to this without thinking about
- 4:07the film so it has that advantage but I also want to tell you about yet another version
- 4:13which is the Hobbit dramatized version from the BBC.
- 4:17Now this is actually the one my own children listened to in their bedrooms when they were
- 4:21little as like bedtime story tapes and I was surprised when I looked it up that the
- 4:26date on this is 1968 which predates me and I think now I know that I can sort of sense
- 4:33it in the production because you've got the BBC radio phonics workshop doing some
- 4:39music in the background and putting some of the voices through synthesizers, acquired
- 4:47taste maybe, it's fun but it's got a very jokey film more like almost a cartoon version
- 4:57of the Hobbit. It's a bridge two three and three quarter hours which might help if you're
- 5:03playing this for younger listeners and I think the strongest part of this for me is the
- 5:09interpretation between the narrator and Bilbo so you've got an actor called Anthony Jackson
- 5:15doing the storytelling role the sort of Tolkien role and then amusingly you've got bursting
- 5:20in and disagreeing or laughing or chuckling or even sort of gainsaying the character playing
- 5:29Bilbo who is an actor called Paul Daneman. Another thing that I've thought was noticeable about this
- 5:34is the casting of Gandalf by an actor called Heron Carvick and it shows that we are before the
- 5:41Michael Horden or the in McKellen versions in that he sounds more like a character, more like
- 5:53an Elrond character younger and somehow more, something more sinister in fact, more poised to him
- 5:59so which I thought was really interesting coming back to it now after and having listened to it for
- 6:03quite a few years. So definitely worth a listen just to see what 1968 made of the Hobbit and it still
- 6:11stands up today I think as a as a listen. Okay so moving on from the Hobbit let's go to the next
- 6:19big book that you might want to listen to and this is a Silmarillion. Now the best game in town
- 6:26is Martin Shaw's Reading and I think this might possibly be my favourite of all the audio
- 6:35versions out there of everything. It's extremely well presented it's got nice breaks in between
- 6:43the different books. Martin Shaw does a very steady and listenable reading and it also helped me
- 6:52who you know Silmarillion wasn't the book I would rush to but listening to it I suddenly realized
- 6:57how the pros worked that it is it is really written to be read out. I really love this and I
- 7:06dip back into it again and again so definitely put that on your wish list if you want to get to
- 7:13grips with the Silmarillion particularly if it's always been a book that you've been a bit scared of
- 7:17or had trouble with. Right so the next big and going on from there is the unfinished tales.
- 7:25Now this has only just come out in 2021 and you get almost 22 hours of listening and this is
- 7:33what I'm currently listening to at the moment. What's delightful about this collection of the
- 7:39manuscripts edited by Christopher Tolkien is they've done it as a two-hander between the father
- 7:45and son actor team Samuel and Timothy West so you get Timothy West saying the editorial parts and
- 7:55Samuel West telling the story so it makes it very clear does get over the problem of what to do with
- 8:02footnotes. I love this I really think it's worth a listen so for example in this you've got things in
- 8:12there like the story of Turin and there you've got wonderful descriptions of the journey to the sea
- 8:23which really brings alive the beauty of the landscape that Tolkien is evoking there so definitely
- 8:33one to look up it sort of makes the unfinished tales feel quite finished actually they're lovely
- 8:40lovely stories. So just to reiterate I think this is really worth your time particularly because
- 8:49I think there's a feeling sometimes when you're getting into the the weeds of the Tolkien manuscripts
- 8:55as is it worth my time I've read the Silmarillion why should I read us another version of the same tales
- 9:03and what what what more can I get and it's more than just an expansion it's more of a dip into the
- 9:10poetry of Tolkien that you get listening to it like this so definitely have a listen.
- 9:19Now going on of course we've got lots of the little well not that little really because they
- 9:23often end up at about eight hours of listening time but there are the other manuscripts that
- 9:30cover quite a lot of the same material but were edited by Christopher Tolkien and put out a
- 9:35separate works. So we've got as well highlight amongst this is the Children of Turin of course
- 9:42which came out in 2006 read by Christopher Lee so if you can't get enough of your Sarah Mann
- 9:49obviously this is the one to go for I found it very moving how much he enjoys saying the names
- 9:57of places and also I was amused when sometimes a word would come up which chimed with something he
- 10:05said as Sarah Mann like the word power and immediately I can see him in his white robe obviously
- 10:11a much missed actor so a little bit of classy Christopher Lee in that and then another of in a sort
- 10:21similar area is the Fall of Gondolin which is one of the main events of the first age and here
- 10:34it's produced in 2019 and they use the Timothy West Sam West combination for that I haven't
- 10:43listened to this all the way through it sounds a very you know if you if you're particularly
- 10:49interested in the Fall of Gondolin it sounds a great way to actually hear that story because
- 10:55the the the way they split it between the two makes it very clear but it does look as though
- 11:03there is quite a lot of editorial comments so it becomes an audio book about the process of
- 11:10of editing manuscripts so it probably is more of a specialized interest that one than those who
- 11:19were just going for a story and again another of these first-age stories is Berrin and Luthian
- 11:27which is of course a central story for Tolkien he had the name Berrin and Luthian on his tombstone
- 11:36with his wife Edith so it's their story in a sense a love story and here we get the West's out
- 11:42again it was only done in 2020 similar things you may feel you've already heard the story of
- 11:50Berrin and Luthian in the various places but the two team of the team of two narrators is very
- 11:57strong again not the first one I'd buy I think I'd go for the unfinished tales if you're looking
- 12:03for the Sam and Tim West version go for that first not least because it's huge and lots of
- 12:11listening but yeah why not it's it's pretty much a beautiful story isn't it okay now the here
- 12:20are some smaller ones which are worth looking into there are several versions of tales from the
- 12:27perilous realm now that's the name given to a collection of stories which includes
- 12:34roverandum farmer giles of ham the adventures of tom bomberdill leaf by niggle and smith of
- 12:41wooden major these can also be bought separately so be careful you're not buying the same thing twice
- 12:48this particular edition the straightforward reading is read by the wonderful Derek Jacobi
- 12:55who delivers it suitable for I mean it's a sort of a these are children's tales particularly
- 13:02roverandum and that is the the feel of those though of course actually leaf by niggle is much more
- 13:10of a philosophic work it's about a man man's creativity and the squizziness which he draws a
- 13:18single leaf and trying to put all the beauty into that so it's very amazing essay story essay written
- 13:28by Tolkien these are lovely but as I said the big warning here is don't buy it twice so you can
- 13:36buy the collection where you get them all and then you wouldn't need to go and buy the separate
- 13:40titles but I found in this little troll that there is also a version of tales from the perilous
- 13:47realm which was done by the BBC I didn't know this existed till I started looking all this up it's
- 13:56got Michael Horden in it as Gandalf he obviously plays Gandalf in the BBC dramatized version of Lord
- 14:03of the Rings and as he died quite a long time ago it puts us back at that time back in the 80s
- 14:09it's definitely got a top team of voice talent um Brian blessed is in there James Grout these are all
- 14:17you know wonderful voice actors and there is an added audio portrait of Tolkien put together by
- 14:24Brian Sibley which draws on the BBC resources of interviews with the author himself and with others
- 14:30so I haven't yet listened to that yet but I think I'm just going to put that on my wish list now
- 14:34because it sounds a great listen so that's the little run through just a recap I think for me
- 14:44um possibly my favourite hobbit might be the robbing ghouls one my favourite summer
- 14:52rillian in fact the only game in town really is Martin Shaw but it's the my favourite of all the audio
- 14:57books and I think unfinished tales by the west is the one I would go to to listen to for them
- 15:06of all the various readings they they're doing now I always in all these podcasts end with
- 15:14where in the best where is the best to go in a fancy world for something and we've done forests and
- 15:20ins and places to be ill um places to be a woman and today I decided I'd pick on places to be a
- 15:28singer because one of the things that comes out in audiobooks is how good the readers can sing
- 15:34poor old Annie circus is where he's challenged on this robbing ghouls does a very good job
- 15:39and the BBC Radiophonic Workshop does an interesting treatment shall we say of the songs
- 15:46you have to listen to them just to get get the vibe if you know the theme tune for Doctor Who
- 15:51you can get a sense of the area in which they're working electronically it was the new thing back
- 15:58in 1968 anyway so I was thinking where in all the fancy worlds is the best to be a singer
- 16:06and I've just been listening over the last couple of weeks to a series by a new writer to me a
- 16:15lady called Michelle Diner who writes sci-fi fantasy and in her class five series I think it's
- 16:23a great place to be a singer now the concept of this is that we're in a a universe where humans
- 16:31have been abducted as part of a scientific mission by the bad guys in this world and they get rescued
- 16:40over the various books the people taken as specimens but the wonderful thing is that to the race
- 16:49who rescues them human singers any of us any of us can sing a tune are amazing because in that
- 16:57culture they have very few singers and it's a highly prized art so they've got sort of five
- 17:04singers for all the planets in their system and so these human women coming along are a real shop
- 17:10to the system and they have great fun in this book by people at various times saying happy birthday
- 17:17to you and because they put someone's name in it it becomes like an astounding cultural revelation
- 17:23there's some very funny moments where they sing always look on the bright side of life
- 17:29which in a very dull moment are people astonished that they're able to sing at these times
- 17:34anyway I love the humour of that and the concept that you didn't have to be a very good singer
- 17:39but in this world you are your Beyonce you are Adele your
- 17:44Kavarotti as far as they're concerned oh yeah and look out for the rendition of Bohemian
- 17:49Rhapsody that's probably a very high moment anyway I love the comedy of that so hands down the
- 17:55best place to be a singer is in the sci-fi fantasy world of Michelle Dynas class five series
- 18:03so thank you very much for listening and I hope you enjoy the audio versions I've mentioned
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