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Tulsi C Shares How Trauma Became A Path To Healing · The Elsa Kurt Show

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  SPEAKER_04: Every conversation tells a story, and the best ones begin with honesty, courage, and a little curiosity.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's where Elsa Kurt comes in.
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  SPEAKER_04: She's an author, podcaster, and independent media personality.
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  SPEAKER_04: And this is where she brings real life to the table.
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  SPEAKER_04: Authors, thinkers, creators, leaders, everyday folks with extraordinary journeys.
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  SPEAKER_04: We sit down, we dig in, and we talk about what matters, what's messy, what's beautiful, and what just might inspire you to look at the world a little differently.
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  SPEAKER_04: This is Elsa Kurt Interviews, where truth has a seat, and everyone's welcome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, hello, friends.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back for another week of Elsa Kurt Interviews.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am Elsa Kurt, and I have a wonderful special guest for us today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Her name is Tulsi C.
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  SPEAKER_01: And here is a little bit about her.
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  SPEAKER_03: Ever feel life has a deeper story it's not telling you?
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  SPEAKER_03: This week, we're talking about healing, identity, and the deeper questions people ask when life doesn't quite make sense on the surface.
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  SPEAKER_03: Our guest, Tulsi C, has written a memoir that explores her personal journey through trauma, spiritual searching, and what she describes as past life regression and soul remembrance.
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  SPEAKER_03: Join us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, hello, Tulsi.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for joining me today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the show.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, Elsa, for having me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And how are you?
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  SPEAKER_01: I am very good, and I'm excited to hear all about you and your book.
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  SPEAKER_01: It sounds so fascinating and so interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love memoirs, and yours is uh sounds like no exception to the rule.
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  SPEAKER_01: It sounds like it's gonna be such a great read.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, it is called Reconnaissance Behind the Veil, and it is your memoir of your childhood experiences, uh, marriage grief, spiritual awakening.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh it just sounds so amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I I want to hear all about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But before we start on that, tell me and our audience a little bit about you and your background.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure, Elsa.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I did my MS in computer sciences and I worked in the corporate America for um close to a decade.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but then everything started shifting, you know, energetically, and my life um, you know, sort of changed drastically and dramatically after that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I found myself at the crossroads of my life where there was a bigger purpose for me more than just you know going through a 95 job.
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  SPEAKER_02: And not that I was not, you know, I was passionate for what I was doing because it was my choice, not like burdened by somebody else.
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  SPEAKER_02: However, like that's where you know I started my studio, which is the Anu Guti.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um I'm a certified life coach, hypnotherapist, and practitioner for neurolinguistic programming, time and emotional freedom techniques, and I do past-life regression sessions and sound therapy, etc.
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  SPEAKER_02: So these are just high-level modalities.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, I work from like uh, you know, kids aged of five all the way to you know adults who are going through their struggles, their their you know, changes in in their life, transition uh challenges, um, even with kids, you know, who go through with a lot of bullying, you know, body shaming, etc.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's that's what I do with.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I have my studio in Atlanta, um, Savani, Georgia, basically.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I'm more than passionate to help and heal others on their journey and things that I went through in my life, uh, where I did not have uh in the beginning understanding.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wish, you know, um that others do not have to go through what I have been through.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's pretty much about who I am and what I do.
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  SPEAKER_01: I, you know, so love and admire and respect people like you who take the challenges and difficulties that they've been handed and make a decision to say, you know what, I'm not going to just stay in that place and live in that life.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to take everything that's happened to me and channel that to helping others.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I I respect and admire that so much.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um, and I and I'm also amazed by the courage it takes to make such a huge shift too from you said you worked in the corporate world and this is such a different lane from that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Was that always part of your life, like as part of part of your personal life and your personal growth, or did that happen later in life?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh no, so the spiritual aspect, you know, I was blessed to have a mother, you know, who sort of planted the seed in me and she was highly psychic, um, highly, you know, intuitive.
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  SPEAKER_02: However, like, you know, she was a teacher, um, she wasn't in any of the healing modalities or or a healer per se, but she touched so many people in her lifespan that I'm aware of that like that sort of inspired me to be, you know, um to kind of follow her, you know, uh footprints.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and from the childhood, yes, I was a very hypersensitive, clairvoyant sort of kid, you know, um, and I was blessed, as I mentioned.
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  SPEAKER_02: My mother never brushed me off, like, you know, when I used to say or mention about my experiences.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, she kind of acknowledged and validated and explained me.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the spiritual aspect started from the very you know get-go when I was almost aged between five and seven.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's where the yoga meditation, the chanting, all that was instilled in me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I learned, you know, different aspects of energy healing, etc., earlier in my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: But again, I never thought myself that it's going to be something that I will be doing, you know, um, as my career, as my path.
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  SPEAKER_02: And as I mentioned, that I did my MS.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, yes, I was working in um in the corporate world, but it was her departure.
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  SPEAKER_02: And prior to that, it was my near-death experience that opened the portal uh, you know, to understand what's there, what's you know, life beyond death, and my experience with going through with um near-death experience sort of shifted my perspective that I wasn't ready um to transition to that life, and there was a bigger purpose for me, and that opened sort of the veil for me to understand that what do I need to do?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, what's my life purpose?
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  SPEAKER_02: And that doesn't restrict to you know, uh to just working, and there's a bigger, deeper reason.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's where I think that was the catalyst, my mother's departure along with near death experience, that opened the gateway for for me to not only you know learn different modalities, you know, to go through and and to heal myself first because I was grieving and I wasn't in the in the most vulnerable state as you know, she was she was my mentor, she was my guide.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I didn't, you know, I didn't need best friend per se or friends because she was everything for me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but at the same time, like her abrupt and sudden departure shook me and you know, kind of made me feel that I don't have any help or support.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know, the support of the dependency, which was which was a blessing now that I was, you know, I didn't have that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I had to adjust with that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had to do a lot of introspection to understand that maybe that this is a bigger reason, bigger purpose, where I have to not only heal myself and to be self-sufficient, self-dependent, so I can be of service to others.
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  SPEAKER_02: So those two, you know, those two experiences shifted and transformed my life forever.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that, you know, that's like that's still gives me chill when I talk about my mother and how it it all started.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I can't imagine, you know, I I I'm blessed to still have both parents uh alive and and to lose someone who's so uh instrumental and significant in your life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um it's so of course understandable how that just rocks your world completely.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, again, as I said uh earlier, I I I love and admire the way that you take that and channel it for something good and and something that can be useful not only for yourself and your own healing, but for other people's healing who've experienced similar uh experiences as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then of course, the next layer of this of your journey is that you started writing it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when you started writing your experiences, did you know in the moment in that time that you were writing a memoir, that this was something that you were gonna put out in the universe?
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  SPEAKER_01: Did you think that you were gonna keep it for yourself?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like what what was your thought process in the writing?
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so there was, you know, when I sort of going through my own awakening and and so from a very long time, I had this kind of um desire to share or express my story to the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then somewhere, you know, when this intuitive hit came to like let's do it, you know, because there is no timing when you have an intuition, when you're guided by that high power, you just you just there's no time frame.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when that came in the beginning, it was more about that I want to share my journey, my experiences.
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  SPEAKER_02: But then it made me think that if I just you know restrict that to my journey, um, then it will be just like maybe like another story.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh however, my journey would be incomplete if I do not mention what all I learned in order to evolve, in order to heal myself and to release and some of the deeper things that I was getting it, not only just from this lifetime, somewhere from past, but there were you know obvious things that I was sort of getting it, you know, whether it's pulling in the childhood, you know, or going through I'm not good enough, um, I'm not worthy enough, I'm not beautiful enough, those kind of challenges, even though I had that support system of my mother, but still I was going back and forth with that and some were the pattern.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, so all the healing, you know, that I did it um during my journey.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I think it was crucial and critical to mention how I evolved and healed myself.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because if I had not probably, you know, when you carry things within you, then there is, there is, there's, you know, you continue to attract the similar pattern, the similar things in your life.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's where I sort of realized that maybe you know my story can inspire other women out there who have gone through, if not the similar kind, but if not exactly the same, but maybe similar kind of experience of whether you know, abuse in their marriage or whether it's you know childhood trauma.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's where the healing part or the modalities that I worked with and involved on myself was very crucial to mention.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's where you know my story along with the transition, the transformation and myself experienced was very crucial to mention in the book itself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think you you made such a good point about how you know putting your own experiences in that, which I would imagine is very hard too, because you're you're sharing such a personal, a deeply personal part of yourself, and of course for a greater purpose to help someone else.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um but it's it's so true when you know you can read a how-to manual and you know you're not getting the heart behind it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you kind of I think maybe a reader would get in in their mind that, like, oh, easy for you to say, you're just talking it from a, I don't know, a doctor perspective or a therapist perspective.
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  SPEAKER_01: But when you're you're reading something from somebody who knows your your experience or their own version of an experience who understands pain and grief and loss uh and hurt and all of those things, I think it makes it that much more impactful for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um was it was the writing of the most difficult parts, did you find that to be kind of cathartic?
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  SPEAKER_01: Was it difficult?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, what what what were your feelings going through that part of the writing process?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, like I felt that there were some emotions, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um there were times where it was um like you know, describing about my mother's departure or my connection was deeply, you know, it was it was um very emotional for me, along with that, you know, my own near-death experience, and then you know, my father's departure after that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So there were a few moments, like there were you know, few times where those things made me very, very emotional.
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  SPEAKER_02: But then as I was um writing, I felt like it was a liberation.
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  SPEAKER_02: And there were even things that I was able to release, which I thought like I did not have it, strangely enough.
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  SPEAKER_02: And again, everything has its own timing and its own reason.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that being said, like, yeah, it was kind of a very profound experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was as if like, you know, the divine was guiding, and you know, my mother, uh, you know, my father, they were my inspiration.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it was like I was channeling, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then I was my writing became that as a medium to express, you know, coming and tapping in from that higher power and to be able to express without judgment, without, you know, critical, you know, um kind of aspect of what we usually carry.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it was just like even though it's it's very personal, but it's okay to be vulnerable.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you write about um surviving profound emotional suffering and a near-death experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you tell us a little bit without giving away too much?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want you to give away too much from the from the book that people can read, but is there anything about this near-death experience that you can kind of share with us a little bit that set you kind of on this trajectory?
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, prior to my near-to-death experience, like as I was going through my you know, um childhood and my teens, I I sort of went through with a lot of um in terms of bullying, in terms of, you know, you you have those doubts, those self-doubts, those questions in inside of you, that I'm not good enough, I'm not intelligent enough, uh, you know, I compared almost compared with others.
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  SPEAKER_02: So those kind of doubts, and still, even though my mother was there with me, however, um, it was it was still, you know, kind of an ongoing process.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um during this near death experience, I was going to with with a very um sort of uh abusive toxic relationship.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and during this time, you know, I was always a uh a very in terms of uh my journey, uh, right from childhood, I was very, very sensitive or hypersensitive, and I could sense things, see things, which you know the logical brain can never explain.
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  SPEAKER_02: And but then at the same time, um the near-death experience sort of opened my my view, my understanding of life beyond death at a very early age, I would say.
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  SPEAKER_02: It sort of kind of made me believe or validated the psychic capabilities or you know, the visions that I used to get before that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that was the time, what that was the phase, even though that was full of that had full of like its own challenges, the struggles, the trials, the tribulations.
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  SPEAKER_02: But you know, that was I think the main um the main like that's where it got planted in terms of like or got into validation where I could understand that I have those capabilities.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have, you know, there I have a reason in my life, although not everything was clear right after my experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it took its own course of time with it, you know, with again different uh lessons, learnings, challenges as I went through.
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  SPEAKER_02: But that was that was a huge, you know, the pain that I was carrying before this layer death experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: It sort of opened my perspective, it shifted my perspective, and it started kind of it gave me the courage as I came out of that that there is a reason why I'm still alive and why, you know, um, it wasn't the time for me, but then at the same time, slowly but gradually, it opened my avenues, it opened my belief in you know, into different areas or or aspects of life.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's an experience that you know most people or a lot of people at least can't say that they've had.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's you know, to to read that and hear how it affected you and how it affected both negatively and positively, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like the dual effects and then what you did with it, I think is always you know one of the most compelling parts of any anyone's story, anyone's memoir or just personal life story.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like, what did you do with what you were dealt, essentially?
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  SPEAKER_01: And and it's just so fascinating to to hear the the journey that you took for that.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And as part of that, of course, your memoir deals with ideas of karma, uh past lives, and chakra healing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I have to confess, I know so little about any of those things.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um tell tell us a little bit about how you incorporate these aspects into your book.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of very interesting aspect also.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um, so like in terms of in terms of law of karma or karma itself, you know, that was uh something I used to hear.
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  SPEAKER_02: I used to learn from my mother.
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  SPEAKER_02: She used to say, you know, uh about how it can how it can kind of change your life or you know, based on your karma, sometimes it can be carried forward to your next life.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, we our thoughts, our actions, our emotions, everything, you know, it's part of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that was that had a profound um impact on me.
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  SPEAKER_02: But again, sometimes we have to go through some of the experience in our life to understand, to relate, to resonate.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we come with our own, you know, learnings, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Even though the learnings were instilled in me, you know, by my mother.
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  SPEAKER_02: But then, for example, um this thing, um, you know, when I was in my teens, I had my own sort of temper tantrums.
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  SPEAKER_02: So maybe I took my domestic health for granted.
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  SPEAKER_02: That was a very, you know, like as I suspected, I I was able to relate or connect their thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and maybe that was, you know, that could that could be very, very kind of a normal thing, or you know, a norm for any teenager.
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  SPEAKER_02: However, it was quite interesting for me when I was in my previous relationship with my ex, I realized that how I was treated by him was in fact 50-70 times bigger than what I had or may have treated my own health.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so that, and as I was going through my own healing, my own spiritual awakening, and I did you know, lots of introspection to understand, you know, because again, the reason what why we go through within something, the answer doesn't lie, you know, outside.
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  SPEAKER_02: The answer, everything, you know, resides within us.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's basically through that introspection, I was able to.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's just like one simple example that sort of made me understand that how the law of karma is so powerful and what we do, what we say, what we think has such a profound, you know, effect in our life.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it sort of creates um, you know, it's like a it's like a bank, you know, what you're depositing is what you're going to receive at the end, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's very, very like very, very simultaneously with law of attraction and and you know, your karma is so that was like again a very sort of reality check for me and make me understand that how it can be crucial.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and when it comes to the past life regression, you know, there sometimes what happens with us like certain sort of fears, phobias, you know, some people have sort of uh phobia of you know dark rooms or small spaces, you know, closets.
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  SPEAKER_02: Some people have fly, you know, they can't fly like Peter.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've had clients that so that they were terrified to fly because they would think that they might die.
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  SPEAKER_02: So sometimes what happens, like we cannot understand, identify or pinpoint as to why are we experiencing these patterns?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like what is you know, and we are unable to find it through our logical mind that it's coming from this particular lifetime.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so sometimes we are sort of bringing those patterns from our previous lifetimes, and if we release he understand as to why, you know, what happened there, you know, maybe um, maybe like you know, in the past that somebody died of XYZ uh secretational circumstances, and that's why they have a fear of phobia that you know it might happen again, but everything is being stored, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and that's why past life regression is uh is very crucial.
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  SPEAKER_02: And in my own healing journey, there were some patterns.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, like I went through.
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  SPEAKER_02: Abusive relationships one after another.
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  SPEAKER_02: And again, there were some of the, you know, the reasons were sort of connected to some of them were connected to my previous past lifetimes where I was carrying the pattern of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And until you do not stop or break the pattern, it's going to continue to happen.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that was a past life.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when it comes to the chakra healing, um, again, chakras are like the energy centers in your physical body, physical slash aura body.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know, think of it like your your car has different means, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So you need to you need to kind of take care, you need to align them, change them periodically, check for the air, etc.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the same thing, those chakras, you know, that uh we have when there's a disharmony or where the chakra is not rotating properly, that's where we experience issues, either at the physical level, emotional, spiritual, could be financial, could be anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's like you have to, you know, through the life force energy, we try to heal those chakras um so that they operate, they work, you know, at an optimum level, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And again, our energy is not like going to remain the same every single day.
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  SPEAKER_02: So as the chakras, so you know, we have to do it like more maintenance based.
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  SPEAKER_02: So in my own case, you know, for example, what I experienced with chakra healing, um, I had a lot of resentment, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: So think of it your heart, chakra, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's all about compassion, it's about self-care, self-love, and that you know, thankfulness and gratification for everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: So during my childhood or my teens, like I had a lot of sort of carried some resentment um or even later in my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but as I was going through my own healing, I realized I was able to sort of bring more appreciation.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was able to bring self-love, self-care for myself, because if you do not have that, you cannot offer it to anyone else.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when the heart chakra sort of opened, it opened my perspective and for everything that you know was related to that, and brought that in you know, gratification for everything I have, and even for gratification for those, you know, lessons that I had or I was experiencing it, that there was a deeper reason that why I went through and I learned from that, I evolved from that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's how chakra healing can be very, very um crucial in day-to-day life or in for maintenance.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when you heal those chakras and you relate and resonate, then sometimes it's not necessary that we should know as to oh, I need chakra healing, or oh, do I know uh or I need you know uh past life regression.
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  SPEAKER_02: So sometimes you know it's uh it's recommended to have a guide or who can help you guide you in your journey, and because I had to take care of myself when I started my own healing, and so yes, um, we don't need to find all the answers by ourselves as it can be overwhelming when we are going through such challenging times, but then yes, looking for that, you know, who can be your guide, mentor, who can hold you accountable, I think that's the key.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's so fascinating.
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  SPEAKER_01: All of it is so interesting to me and intriguing, and I and I know it it it's um it's so appealing to such a wide variety of people.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know, I I think it's really uh amazing that there's so many different ways that people can seek out how to improve their lives so that they can kind of I don't I kind of want to say pay it forward, but uh you know, I think you know what I mean by uh just you know, when you when you fix yourself basically, you're able to help, you're able to help others to be more effective in in helping other people.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I I think it's great that there's so many different avenues and ways of doing that.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I was really I was struck by when you talked about karma, because you know, um people who don't know much about karma, and I include myself in that, you know, we we use that term so uh loosely, so flippantly.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I think most people, uh including myself, have used that term in in almost like it only applies to a negative thing.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like if somebody was mean to you and then they trip and fall right after, like, well, there's karma for you, like that's how people I think, you know, utilize that word.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I I like the way that you made me think about it, which was as a way of um, and correct me if I'm wrong, please, but almost like a way of personal accountability.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're you're responsible, you know, what you do and how you act, it has such a you have such a greater responsibility, you know.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: So whether it's good or bad, it's it's just kind of what you put out will come back to you in one way or another.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: Is that is that kind of the right uh mindset to have with that?
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: You are you you what you said or described is exactly what it is.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's like again the law of attraction.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: What's what is what you what you think, it's all you know going to come back.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: So again, taking charge of your own thoughts, your own feelings, emotions, and again, the karma is the is is is the uh um is the key.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know, and I and I would have to say to anyone watching or listening and um you know who has different perspectives, different uh spiritual views, whatever the case is, like no matter where someone lands on on the spiritual side of it, it really sounds like such a profound and meaningful experience and healing process um for for you and then for you to take and help other people.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: The effect of of writing and publishing this book for other people, um, it sounds like it's got to be such a life-changing experience, yes?
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I totally agree.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: It was, you know, a life-changing because you know, all my life I I couldn't express, I couldn't express my emotions, I couldn't express, you know, what um so so this expression I wanted to use as my own power, my courage and strength to to express, you know, even if it it was you know through my own vulnerability or whether it was through you know an act of of courage that so I wanted to kind of express that and and that was again as I mentioned before, it was a profound experience, and that was a life-changing because you know, if you it's it's your personal story, so but then again, it was it was something that I had to ask myself that you know it's raw, it's authentic, it's it's something that resonates, relates to me.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_02: So um if some you know there might be somebody, if not, you know, if not anything else, they can be helpful and and and right from childhood all the way to my you know um recent times that there was nothing that that sort of um happened instantly or changed instantly, but then at the same time, you know, understanding that uh there is a there is a ray of hope, there is a you know, uh there is a light at the end of that tunnel.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: And then sometimes we can find ourselves totally lost with with our struggles and challenges, but just having that innate power or that trust and and belief in that higher power and surrendering yourself to your you know, be your guides, to your guided guardian angels, is is really kind of um um it can be life-changing.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: So, yes, yeah, through this expression, you know, I was able to not only express myself, but the goal was to maybe to serve to others who can get some guidance, uh, who can get some benefit.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um that again it's it's not it's it's not the um it's not the attitude, it's it's the attitude of the person, right?
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_02: That right that that can make or break things.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: So this, you know, this was uh this was a profound experience, and this expression was something that in fact held me some of the things that I wasn't even considering.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: So so yes, um thank you for for asking me such a wonderful question.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh thank you.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for a wonderful answer.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: Again, life can be full of struggles, you know, or you know, or life can have those turbulent experiences, but that does not mean that it's it's the end.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: And having that hope, that courage, that you know, resilience that that can really help and transform and having that innate, you know, belief and power in yourself and trusting that higher power um sort of can make a huge difference.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: And and as I mentioned before, it's it's not about the um attitude, it's the attitude.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: So no matter what comes in, you know, there is a there's a light.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: There is there is that um ray of hope that I always believed and that can simply change and do wonders in your journey.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: And you use one of my favorite words, resilience.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: I love that word.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's and it's so true.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's such a great, important, significant thing to have in life for success and whatever success looks like for for the individual, whether you know it's emotional, financial, like whatever you think success is to you, I think that foundation or part of the foundation is resilience.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I love that you use that word.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I have one last question for you that I don't know why.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: I just thought of it right now.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the title of your book, tell me, explain the title of your book a little bit, if you will.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like how did you come up with that title?
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's a great title.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, it's it's kind of you know, the veil.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's uh it's it, you know, it it was something that came um through digging in, through doing a lot of um kind of summarizing or bringing that to my life as to what that was.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: And as I mentioned, whether it was like, you know, when you when you open the veil or when the veil is is not there, you can see through and understand as to what is happening on the other side.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: So whether it was my near desperate or whether it was um whether it was like tapping into that higher you know, power and bringing in those previous, you know, past life of karmic experience with with uh myself, all that sort of contributed in picking up, you know, when it comes to this title, and that sort of um defines about who I am, what my journey, because as I mentioned, that was like an exploration and and peeking through that to understand as to what what life is, what it you know, what I experienced and who I am or what I became afterwards.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: So so yes, I'm gonna I love that.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was such a powerful, intriguing title.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's like one of those titles that you you I you feel like you like, I have to pick up this book and see what it's about.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: So well done, very well done on that.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything else you would like for our audience to know?
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I know what I would like for our audience to know.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: Where can they find your book?
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's on Amazon, um, it's on other platforms too, but it's easily accessible on Amazon.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: And but um, do you have a website for them to go to or not right now?
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, it's um the website is also there, and um, so that is uh authortoolcc.com.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the website that they can go through.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: And um, as I mentioned, it's on the it's on Amazon, so they can sort of go and and send that book out there.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so so much for joining me today and and sharing your experiences and your journey and your of course your book with not just me but our audience.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: It was an absolute joy to have you on.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks so much, Elsa.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm really grateful to you and for having me on your show.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I really appreciate your dying and taking interest in my book and journey.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, guys.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: I will put the links to the book and toolsi's website in our show notes.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: You'll be able to click right on it, go right to it, purchase them, learn more about Toolsi, and we look forward to seeing you guys in the next episode.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: So take care.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: Bye-bye.
• 34:13
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