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Bassem Youssef _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _521(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your support. Thanks for tuning in.
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  Speaker 1: Today's episodes are regarding the conflict in Israel and Palestine.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot about this issue, and I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to deepen my own understanding. I recognize that this is
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  Speaker 1: a sensitive topic, but the only way to truly learn
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  Speaker 1: is to seek knowledge. I decided to have guests from
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  Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle, if you will, to help
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  Speaker 1: me learn by sharing their views. I did this in
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  Speaker 1: separate episodes because I'm not a debate moderator, and I
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  Speaker 1: chose guests who I thought would share their views sincerely,
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  Speaker 1: and I think both of them did. I'm very thankful
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  Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to learn, which is something that
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  Speaker 1: they don't even have in some countries. Today's guest is
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  Speaker 1: a comedian who was born in Egypt and now lives
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  Speaker 1: here in America. He's also a political commentator, writer, and
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  Speaker 1: a former medical surgeon. He's been called the Jon Stewart
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  Speaker 1: of the Arab world and has been pretty vocal about
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  Speaker 1: the Israel-Palestine conflict for years. You may have seen his
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  Speaker 1: viral appearance on Piers Morgan. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that and a lot more. I'm very grateful for his time.
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  Speaker 1: Today's guest is Bassem Youssef.
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  Speaker 2: Shine that light on me.
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  Speaker 3: I'll sit and tell you my story.
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  Speaker 1: And I will find a song.
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  Speaker 2: I've been singing for so long Basim Youssef.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: That's how you say it? Basim? No, Basim. Basim.
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  Speaker 3: Basim. It's a softer Basim. Oh, Basim. Basim, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Your student special at the Wiltern.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: On October 4th. Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And what kind of like, so your audience is predominantly,
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  Speaker 1: because you're Egyptian.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And is your audience mostly like Egyptian folks or does
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  Speaker 1: all Middle Eastern people come out and support a Middle
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  Speaker 1: Eastern comedian?
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  Speaker 3: Mostly brown people, 60% Arabs, sometimes 50% and then maybe
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  Speaker 3: 20% like Indian Pakistanis. And then the rest are white.
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  Speaker 3: So I get like between 20 to 30% white people.
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  Speaker 3: But it's different from each state, from each show. So
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  Speaker 3: it's been quite a ride, to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been doing comedy because you were a surgeon.
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  Speaker 3: A heart surgeon, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You were a heart surgeon. Yeah. That's crazy, bro. Why
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  Speaker 1: would you stop doing that? Why would you?
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  Speaker 3: No, why do it? Because medicine is terrible. It's a
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  Speaker 3: thankless job.
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I spent 19 years of my life in medicine.
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  Speaker 3: 19 years of my life. And I say in my show,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you do that because that's what's expected of
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  Speaker 3: you in the Middle East. In the Middle East, you're
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  Speaker 3: expected to be one of three things, a doctor, an engineer,
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  Speaker 3: or a disappointment. So I didn't want to disappoint my parents.
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  Speaker 3: So I went into medicine. And I went there for
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  Speaker 3: 19 years. I didn't have any kind of aspirations. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: what do you want to do? I'm just going to
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  Speaker 3: do the regular stuff. I wasn't the guy who's cracking
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  Speaker 3: jokes in class or anything.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 3: No, nothing. A regular guy. Just a regular boring guy.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Just a boring guy?
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  Speaker 3: Very boring.
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  Speaker 1: And then, so how do you realize you're able to
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  Speaker 1: be a comedian then? Because that's kind of... I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't think at all when you were a kid?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Revolution happened in Egypt 2011. And I just happened to
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  Speaker 3: be like a regular... fan for Jon Stewart. So I
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  Speaker 3: watched Jon Stewart for years. And I had this dream
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  Speaker 3: of maybe I'll be a writer on a similar show
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  Speaker 3: in Egypt. So when the revolution happened, and I saw
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  Speaker 3: the kind of crazy stuff that they've been showing on television.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like the craziest conspiracy theories ever.
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  Speaker 1: And that was a revolution in Egypt?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. So the state-run media was running all kinds of
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  Speaker 3: crazy stuff. So I started doing YouTube videos, making fun
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  Speaker 3: of it. Blew up. And in two weeks, I had
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  Speaker 3: millions of views on my YouTube channel that I just opened.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even have a YouTube channel before that. And
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  Speaker 3: then suddenly, every single platform, every single television station want
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  Speaker 3: me on the show. And now, do a show. So
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  Speaker 3: I did a show, out of nothing. And I hired
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  Speaker 3: people who was not in the business. People who were
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  Speaker 3: like amateurs, like me. And it became the biggest show
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  Speaker 3: in the Middle East. And I had 40 million people
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  Speaker 3: watching each episode.
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  Speaker 1: And so how does that end? Did you just.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I was kicked out. I had my show canceled
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  Speaker 3: a couple of times. I had even the signal, the
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  Speaker 3: satellite signal jammed a couple of times. I had lawsuits.
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  Speaker 3: I had shows shut down. People threatened around me. I
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  Speaker 3: was threatened. And then I... By both regimes. I went
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  Speaker 3: through three different regimes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Military, Islamist military, and then they both hated me. And
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  Speaker 3: that's when it's you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you make
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  Speaker 3: fun of people and everybody hates you, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I think you're doing the right thing. And I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: do the show anymore, so I escaped. I left Egypt, 2014.
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  Speaker 3: I came here into a very dark era. I didn't know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I was everything, and then I came
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  Speaker 3: here and I'm nothing, nobody. And it was humbling. Because
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  Speaker 3: I thought, hey, I have a good story. I'm a doctor.
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  Speaker 3: I did comedy. I should come here and Hollywood should
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  Speaker 3: open its door. Nothing. Nobody cares about you. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you were great in Egypt. Now we don't know what
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  Speaker 3: to do with you. So I think.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be a big transfer. I think that's scary.
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  Speaker 1: That would have to be one of the scariest things
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  Speaker 1: I think for a comic is going to another country
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  Speaker 1: because the entire template of everything is different. Like the,
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  Speaker 1: the pentameter of what's funny, like things that people know
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  Speaker 1: and don't know, reference, all of that. And then you're
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  Speaker 1: in a whole new space and Hollywood does not care really.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you show up. They don't care.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: And you have to understand, I was even a comedian
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  Speaker 3: who changed. I just been there for three years. I
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  Speaker 3: just left medicine, did a show out of nothing, became successful.
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  Speaker 3: So I only had two, three years under my belt
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  Speaker 3: coming to America as a comedian in Arabic. So I
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  Speaker 3: started doing standup comedy and I sucked so bad because
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  Speaker 3: it's my second language. And also I did, it's not
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  Speaker 3: just the language, it's the rhythm, the music. Each language
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  Speaker 3: has its pauses, its rhythm, its cadence. And I would
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  Speaker 3: write stuff that would be intelligent, but I wouldn't deliver
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  Speaker 3: it right. So I went into the years of darkness
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  Speaker 3: and And that was here in the U.S.? That's when
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  Speaker 3: you first started stand-up?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Wow. Where was your first set at here?
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  Speaker 3: I did something in, oh, the improv, like open mic,
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  Speaker 3: and it was terrible. And I did a few open mics,
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  Speaker 3: and then I, but here's the trick. What helped me
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  Speaker 3: is that I was someone with a good story, so
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  Speaker 3: I didn't go into comedy the first, like right away.
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  Speaker 3: I won a speaker series.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a guy.
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  Speaker 3: I came from the revolution, Egypt. So I wouldn't go
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  Speaker 3: to talk to universities.
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  Speaker 1: Like a talk.
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  Speaker 3: A talk.
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  Speaker 1: That's better.
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  Speaker 3: And then with that talk, I would put jokes. And
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  Speaker 3: then I was like, oh, I have five minutes. Let
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  Speaker 3: me try it. And then I suck. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 3: that's not the five minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Now I have two minutes. Yeah, two minutes.
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  Speaker 3: So I would go back and forth, back and forth, back.
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  Speaker 3: And I went for years. And when COVID hit, I
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  Speaker 3: still went on the road because I needed to have
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  Speaker 3: any time I can get. So I would go and
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  Speaker 3: I would play for five people, six people. And it
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  Speaker 3: was funny that people knew me from Egypt, from my
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  Speaker 3: own country. Arabs and Egyptians would know me. And they
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  Speaker 3: would see my name. It's like, oh, we have to
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  Speaker 3: come and see Bassem Youssef. Now, in their mind is
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  Speaker 3: this guy with this huge show. And they come. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm a struggling comedian. And I would see it on
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  Speaker 3: their faces. They would say. Oh, too bad. That's him.
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  Speaker 3: He's a husband. Maybe he'll be driving an Uber in
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  Speaker 3: three months. Yeah, maybe this is how he'll make his money.
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  Speaker 3: So it was very related for me. And then two
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  Speaker 3: years ago, something happened. Started to fill in spaces, places,
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  Speaker 3: have kind of a few sold out shows. And it
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  Speaker 3: went well. And last year, I was actually talking about
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  Speaker 3: shooting my special already. I was having interest. And then
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  Speaker 3: October 7th happened, and then I blew up because of
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  Speaker 3: Piers Morgan. Then more people came to me. But here's
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  Speaker 3: the thing. When I was complaining about not having enough
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  Speaker 3: people coming to me, I wasn't ready yet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: After October 7th, now everybody knew who I am.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So they came to my show. And you were a
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  Speaker 3: little more prepared. If the Piers Morgan thing happened two
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  Speaker 3: years earlier, I wouldn't be good enough. And people will
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  Speaker 3: come and get disappointed. So I think I took my
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  Speaker 3: time and I think I'm grateful for that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny you said about like your time and
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  Speaker 1: how it like, you think you have, I remember when
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  Speaker 1: I first thought I had like five minutes, I'd be like, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I got five minutes, you know, calm down. But then
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  Speaker 1: you realize if you have five minutes, you really only
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  Speaker 1: have like two minutes, you know, it's like when it really,
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  Speaker 1: when you cook the fat down and kind of figure
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  Speaker 1: things out. Yeah, that Piers Morgan thing was huge for you. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: That was huge.
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  Speaker 1: Came out of nothing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It came out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: A comedian friend of mine, Amir K, uh, connected us and,
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  Speaker 1: he works with me a lot on the road and
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  Speaker 1: this was absolutely, this was just so funny and insightful
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  Speaker 1: and ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know it would have that big of an impact?
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  Speaker 1: It has 22 million views.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. That's, uh, I went into that and I
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  Speaker 3: was warned by everyone that I know that not to
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  Speaker 3: go on the show. Because at the time, with October 7th,
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  Speaker 3: there was a certain story and a certain perception and
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  Speaker 3: no one was allowed to talk outside of the perception.
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  Speaker 3: It was all one-sided. And my wife is half Palestinian.
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  Speaker 3: And her family, many of them are in Gaza. And
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  Speaker 3: they were bombed. And she lost many of her family
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  Speaker 3: members all through the years. But it became so natural
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  Speaker 3: that Gaza gets bombed. It's crazy that this is a
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  Speaker 3: part of their life. So we don't even talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even hear about anybody of her family until
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  Speaker 3: a bomb goes on. And that's not just like the
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  Speaker 3: last eight months. I'm talking about like years. So when
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  Speaker 3: that happened, and I saw there's, this is one-sided, and our,
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  Speaker 3: my side of the story is not being allowed to talk,
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  Speaker 3: but nobody is willing to listen because everybody was hysterical.
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  Speaker 3: So when he went in and he said like, how's everybody,
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  Speaker 3: how's your family? I was like, well, I know I
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  Speaker 3: tried to kill my wife, but she's using my kids
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  Speaker 3: as human shields. So I used the same stuff that
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  Speaker 3: they're using because the way that they were justifying the
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  Speaker 3: continuous attack was ridiculous, one of them was by Ben
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  Speaker 3: Shapiro and even DeSantis, he said, well, you know, Israel
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  Speaker 3: warns Palestinians before bombing them. It's like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 3: how cute. Wow, wow, wow. So if Putin warns Ukrainians,
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  Speaker 3: it's okay for Putin to bomb Ukraine because as long
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  Speaker 3: as you warn them, that's fine. And I thought, I
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  Speaker 3: think Israel became so effective of warning them that they
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  Speaker 3: actually warned them ahead of their funeral. They actually been,
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  Speaker 3: sending flowers to the funeral. It's like, we're very sorry
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  Speaker 3: for your upcoming loss. We're going to be there in 10.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, are you guys gaslighting us? And
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  Speaker 3: then I was hearing, oh, there's so many babies we kill,
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  Speaker 3: but we cannot help it.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: If you're the most funded, most advanced, most trained, most
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  Speaker 3: supported military in the Middle East and you can't help
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  Speaker 3: killing babies, maybe you can stick to your day job.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe genocide is not the hobby for you. So it
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  Speaker 3: kind of like, it was for me, a justification just
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  Speaker 3: drove me crazy. So I took every single element that
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  Speaker 3: they were taking and I just regurgitated back to them.
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  Speaker 3: And he said, so what should Israel do? It's like,
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  Speaker 3: exactly what they did, kill more people. Why not kill more?
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  Speaker 3: Kill more because the whole idea, if you talk about ceasefire,
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  Speaker 3: of please stopping the killing, You have all kind of
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  Speaker 3: arguments not to. So all right, let's do whatever you want, guys.
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  Speaker 3: And then show them how ridiculous, because this is what
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  Speaker 3: comedy does. Comedy doesn't counteract. It's like, all right, let's
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  Speaker 3: see your idea. And let's multiply by hundreds and see
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  Speaker 3: how that feels. Because it is funny how the most
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  Speaker 3: crazy question that they ask me, remember that, Theo? What's
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  Speaker 3: the proportionate response? What's the proportion? How many dead bodies
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  Speaker 3: can we get away with?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's an evil? What makes things fair?
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  Speaker 3: What's a good number to kill? It's like, I find
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  Speaker 3: it very interesting how the media suddenly is interested in calculus.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, if one Hamas rocket equals 10 Israeli strikes,
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  Speaker 3: how many funerals can we plan for next week? What
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  Speaker 3: is this?
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  Speaker 2: What is this?
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  Speaker 1: Are there people in Gaza that are consuming your content
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  Speaker 1: that are able, do you think it's bringing some relief?
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  Speaker 1: Because I can only imagine the pain.
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  Speaker 3: If they have some internet.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Because you understand, Gaza is basically, it's sealed off.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Even before October 7th, forever. I love it how he
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  Speaker 3: was just like, ah, we left Gaza. We're not occupying
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  Speaker 3: Gaza anymore. Yes, but you're making an embargo of sea
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  Speaker 3: and water and land, and you cannot give five calories
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  Speaker 3: inside without going through the checkpoint.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: So it is, it is fine. It was like, we're not,
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  Speaker 3: we're not occupying you, but we are locking you from
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  Speaker 3: the outside.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So when they get internet.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes they do. And I get a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: supporting and I, and I, and someone sent me a video,
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  Speaker 3: it made me cry. In the middle, after like a bombing,
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  Speaker 3: they were like sitting, kids, and they were playing my,
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  Speaker 3: my video. Somebody downloaded on, they played my video on
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  Speaker 3: like an old television in the rubble. And that, that
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  Speaker 3: made me cry.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, just so my listeners know, because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us, we're curious about Israel and Palestine. You hear
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  Speaker 1: about it all the time, right? But some of us,
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  Speaker 1: we don't even know, like, what's going on there, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Because also a lot of the news you get, you're like,
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  Speaker 1: is this news even accurate? You know, like, what filters
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  Speaker 1: is the news going through? So, yeah, what do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like is happening between Israel and Palestine? What do
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  Speaker 1: you think is happening in Gaza? Is that the question?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a very complicated question. Here is a
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  Speaker 3: question of the century. What's happening there? Well, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to talk about October 7th, not just now, because
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  Speaker 3: things didn't start on October 7th.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: There is a country called Palestine that's been there, and
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  Speaker 3: this piece of land, many people have went in and out,
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  Speaker 3: had kingdoms, have empires, have states, and they were like
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  Speaker 3: any other place in the world, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So.
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  Speaker 3: Very recently, and I will take as recently as like
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  Speaker 3: 150 years, there was a promise by the Jewish people
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  Speaker 3: in Europe to have a national state or a home
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  Speaker 3: in Palestine. Which was very weird because most of those
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  Speaker 3: Jews were in Europe. And they were persecuted by people
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  Speaker 3: in Europe. Even before Hitler, there was pogroms all over.
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  Speaker 3: And there was like a... There were what all over? Pogroms,
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  Speaker 3: like kind of like mini Holocaust where they would like
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  Speaker 3: go persecute them and they would like displace them. Most
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  Speaker 3: Jews in Europe didn't have a good life in Europe,
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  Speaker 3: especially in Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine and Russia. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they have pogroms. It's called pogroms all over. They have been.
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  Speaker 1: Pogroms?
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  Speaker 3: Pogroms. P-O-G-R-O-M-S.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, pogrom right here. An organized massacre of a particular
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  Speaker 1: ethnic group, in particular that of Jewish people in Russia
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  Speaker 1: or Eastern Europe, which you just said.
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  Speaker 3: So they have been treated quite nasty in Europe for
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  Speaker 3: so many reasons. Many of them can actually track it
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  Speaker 3: back to the whole... sin of Jews killing Jesus. And
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  Speaker 3: since then, the Catholic Church in Europe and many Christians
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: in Europe have really dealt with Jewish people in a
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: horrible way.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you should have killed somebody else. I think
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: because they're going to hold that against you. Some people are.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: You should have killed whoever else was there. Or not Jesus,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? I don't even know who
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: did or where it was. Was it like one of
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: those like murder mystery dinners or something like that?
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: No, because like it was the new religion and then
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: there was the whole idea about like Jews pushing the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Roman ruler to crucify Jews. But that doesn't matter because
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't kill anybody for the sins of their parents.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But anyways. But they picked the wrong guy.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they picked the son of God. Yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Now I also, but if you're going to aim, you
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: got to aim high.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if they're going with Jesus and then
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: somebody's like, hey, he's been made.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Guys, he's a made man. He's a made man.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: He is the made man.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Let's kill the other guy. Let's get this other guy.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: So for years and years, it's not going well for them.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: And then after First World War I, there was a
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: promise by the British government to the Jews to, establish
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: a home in Palestine.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Why did they pick Palestine?
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Was there other options that they chose?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, there was Argentina, Madagascar, and Uganda. As a matter
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: of fact, the British government gave the Jewish people about 8,000
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: acres in Uganda in order to start a room, but
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: it was difficult for the Jewish council at the time,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: or the Zionist council at the time, to bring people
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to go to Uganda or to Argentina. It's like, no,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: the only way that we can do it is to
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: send them to Palestine, because it's the holy land, it's
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: the promised land.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: So did they choose Palestine, or the British people are...
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Because this was after World War I, it was like
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Britain and America.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in 1917, there's something called the Balfour Declaration, which
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: was one of the British government who said, we can
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: give you the state of Palestine as your homeland.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, bring that up, Nick.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: But before 1917, it was, there were many, yeah, Balfour Declaration.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: British government in 1917 during the First World War, announcing
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: its support of the establishment of a national home for
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: the Jewish people in Palestine. than an Ottoman region with
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: a small minority of Jewish population.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I like your fact checking everything and it's coming great.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I just, this is good because I always wonder
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: some little things and I know little things, but I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: don't know enough.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: But before 1917, there was other trials with other options
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: for the countries I told you. And you know what's
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the kicker? That's funny. Many Orthodox Jewish rabbis objected for
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Palestine to be the homeland because in their Jewish faith,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: we cannot have a land for Israel until the Messiah,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: the real Messiah, because they don't believe in Jesus, their
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Messiah would come. So they were a huge opposite for
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: having a land of Israel in Palestine.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: In Palestine because it was a.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Because it was a.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Because it was not the time yet. They should wait
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: until the Messiah to come, and then that will create
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: the land of Israel.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see. So wherever the Messiah showed up, that
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: would be the land of Israel.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: But the secular Zionists at the time, they said like, okay,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: how about like we build the land and that will
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: force him to come. So kind of like build it
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: and they will come. How about that? So you understand?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like field of dreams kind of.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Because here's the thing, because many of the people who
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: talk about like Israelis being like a biblical promise, even
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: they were not having a consensus of what, Where should
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: we have? So whoever tells you, oh, it's consensus, it's divine. No,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: they even had problems deciding. So anyways, and at that time,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: especially in 1930s after Hitler came to power, there were
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: like droves and droves and droves of Jewish Germans and
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Jewish Polish people and Jewish Russian. They were like having,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: they went into refugee boats and they came to Palestine.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: And you know why? Because they were not granted visas
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: by the United States. They were not granted visas by
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: other European countries.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Wow, so a lot of Jewish, like German Jews, Polish Jews,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: they weren't granted visas by... The West. By the West,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: but they were by Palestine.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And Palestinians didn't have anything because it was a mandate
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: by the British. They were occupying that land, but they
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: were Palestinian people. So this became the myth of... A
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: land with no people to the people with no land.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: And if you actually find that, you will actually find
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: that thing. This was one of the myths. A land
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: with no people to the people with no land. So
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: they will tell people, hey, there was no people living there,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: so it is ours. It is just a desert, but
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: it was never a desert. there were more than 1.2
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: million Palestinians living in that piece of land.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Before the Balfour Declaration.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Before the Balfour Declaration. Then Jewish people came in, and
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: then many of those Jewish European residents started to form
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: militias and armed gangs, like the Haganah, the Ergon, the Stein.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Now, were these Jewish people that had just been rescued from... War,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: war from the Nazi Germany?
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: From Nazi Germany, yes.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: 1930s all the way to the Second World War.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So they started to move to Palestine, which is now
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Palestine and Israel. What was it called at that point?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: It was all called Palestine, Palestine.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Even after Israel was given the land?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: It was after giving the promise.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: The promise.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Because if you read it, it was giving a promise
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: to make the land in the land of Palestine. I see.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: So even many of those Israelis had Palestinian passports. So
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: the land was called Palestine and there were Palestinian people
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: living there, 1.2 million at least. Fast forward, I'm not
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: gonna go into so many details, but I fast forward 1948, 1947, 48,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: there was like many wars happening, many wars happening, many,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: many attacks between the Palestinian and the Jews because the
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Palestinians said like, you're coming from Europe and you're taking
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: our land. It's like, no, this is our biblical land now.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Now it's ours. And those Jews were like supported pretty
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: much by the British. And the American, you think that's like, oh,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: we don't want them back, so take all the weapons
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: and stay there. So, and then there were a declaration,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: a UN declaration, a partition, it's called the partition, 1947.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: And they gave the Jews who were less than 30%
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: more than half of the land. And they gave the Jews,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: the Palestinians who were much more, like 45, 49%.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And who did, who was helping dictate that? Who was helping,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: not dictate it, but who was helping like facilitate it?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Well, after First, Second World War, after 1945, the British
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: and the Americans were like kind of the world superpower.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: So they were, at the time, I think it was-
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: They were running the chessboard. I think it was Truman,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: it was Truman in power, who basically pushed, and there's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: like a video, black and white video for... Harry Truman describing,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: it's like, we were trying to please everybody, but it
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: was difficult because we were putting them people into other
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: people land. And it's there in black and white. So
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: why I'm giving this, because these ideas, see? Former President
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Henry Truman talks about generic power in the Middle East.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: It is just like, if you watch them, especially the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: one in front of the map.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the one in front of the map.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: The two on the front of the map, you know?
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Laurie Anderson was one of them. We had several other
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: people in the country, even among the Jews, the Zionists particularly,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: who were against anything that was to be done if
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: they couldn't have the whole of Palestine and everything handed
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: to them on a silver plate so they wouldn't have
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: to do anything. It couldn't be done. We had to
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: take it in small doses. You can't move 5 or
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: 6 million people out of a country and fill it
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: up with 5 or 6 million more and expect both
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: sets of them to be pleased. We had all sorts of.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: So you see, and I'm really talking about this because
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: if you want to talk about October 7th, you need
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: to talk about the basis because they will always get
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: like a point of time. The basis of this, this
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: was a land of Palestinian people. People from Europe came
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: in and they started to import other Jews from the
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: other parts of Arab countries. And they said, this is
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: our land now for whatever biblical reason. Because this doesn't
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: make any sense. This is like me coming into your
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: podcast studio. It's like, hey, my fortune cookie told me
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: that this is mine now and I'm allowed to kill you.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I don't care about what your Bible or Torah or
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Quran tells you. If you have a holy scripture, good
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: for you. But that doesn't dictate political decision that can
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: affect the lives of other people in the region. So
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: this is exactly what happened. And what drives me crazy
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: is that we hear the whole idea about like the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: chosen people or the chosen people or the chosen people.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, fine.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: You think you're a chosen people, good for you. Everybody
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: think they're chosen. Christian think they're chosen. Muslim think they're chosen.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: But what drives me crazy is the Christian Zionist, the
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: pro-Israel Christian Zionist who say that they are chosen, that
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: the Jews are chosen. And I'm sorry to say, isn't
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Jesus your guy? are you in an open relationship? Are
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: you in an open relationship? How come you believe in
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: a religion, in a God, in a doctrine, but you
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: believe that other people from another religion are chosen over you?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Don't you feel unchosen? I mean, this is like a
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: religious polygamy, right? Are you cheating on Jesus? Is this
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: some sort of a religious FOMO? It doesn't make any sense.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: And I'm sick and tired of this whole idea about
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: chosen people. What does it mean to be chosen? Do
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: you have a bottle service? Do you have like a
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: VIP lounge access? Are you like in a waterfront condos
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: and we were like back in the purgatory in our
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: shitty- It's.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Great advertising, right?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: It's really great advertising if you just say you're the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: chosen people. How did that term come about, I wonder?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: It was in their Bible, in their Torah, but it's
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: fine because everybody thinks they're a chosen. That is the
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: driving force of faith, that I'm the only one in
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: heaven and everybody's gonna go to hell. But I don't understand,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: if they're saying that they're chosen, why the Christian Zionists
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: believe that?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: So what is a Zionist?
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: A Zionist, okay, there's a Zionist, they would want you
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: to believe that a Zionist simply believe that having a
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: national statehood for Jewish people. But that's more than that.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Zionist is... Are.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Zionists Jewish or are they.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: No, not necessarily because you can be Zionist and still
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Christian or a Zionist or an atheist because many of
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: the pros... That's why I don't say Jews. I say
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: pro-Zionist or pro-Israel because many of the people in Congress
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: are Christians and they just believe in Zionism. Zionism here,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: as we believe it from an Arab perspective, It is
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: a colonial settling idea of ideology that is based on
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: cleansing the whole group of people out of their land
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: and you coming into, if you want to have like
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: a national state, that's fine. But you understand they are
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: building it on the state of other people. You're coming
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: in and you're doing it. And just to give you
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: a very, very small snippet of the magnitude of what happened, 1948,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: 15th of May, the day that Israel declared independence. On
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: that day, overnight, 750,000 Palestinians, three quarters of a million
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: were displaced overnight. Overnight, displaced from their village, displaced from
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: their homes, displaced from their cities. They were killing, raping,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: they were burning, all kind of things. And you have
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: documentaries where Israeli soldiers, they talk, braggingly talk about like
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: the atrocities that they did and the rape and the
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: women that they raped and all of that happened.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: And was that?
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a perfect example. You see, this
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: is 1946 Palestine. This is old Palestine with a little
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Jewish spots here and there. And this is the UN partition. Suddenly,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: the UN gave all of that white space to Israel.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: So the Palestinians are like, wait a minute, that doesn't work.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: But how were they lobbying the UN? Is the UN
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the group that was doing it?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: No, no, but you have to understand, the UN has
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: no power.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, got it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Who has the power, America? and in England. You understand
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: that UN now, or security, America runs the world. So
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: America is the superpower, especially after Second World War, they
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: are the strongest country. They just like bomb, like to
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: drop two nuclear weapons for bombs. So they had women
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: playing baseball at that time. And you have even Henry
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Truman's like, we tried, but like we're trying to do it,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: but it's difficult. So this is, you see how it
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: went from here to here in less, than 50 years,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: how now the Palestinian state, quote unquote state, have become
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: just like islands and islands and islands. islands. So you
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: had 1.2 million. Now you see this little green thing?
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: You have more than 5 million Palestinians living there Crushed
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: into these little things. Gaza, which is the little strip
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: on the side, it has 2.2 million people. And those 2.2
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: million people were not born in Gaza. More than three-quarters
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: of them came from outside, but they were pushing them,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: pushing them, pushing them. So we understand this is the
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: state now. So the basis of all of this is occupation.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: That's why when they tell you that Israel has the
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: right to defend itself, and people say the unoccupying force
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: has no right to defend itself against the people that
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: they occupy.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Say that again to me.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: So if you are an occupying force, you have no
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: right to defend yourself because you cannot. It's like the
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Nazi Germany has a right to defend itself against the
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: French resistance. You can't. You went into their country with
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: might and with force and with military. You occupy them.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: You get them.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: And this is why, and I want to tell you,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: how come they, if you did October 7th, you should
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: expect that, well, before October 7th, it's been going on
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: and on and on. Every single day, a Palestinian will
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: wake up in the morning and an Israeli soldier or
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Israeli settler can go into their house, burn their house,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: take their house, kill them, take them as hostages, put
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: them in prison, say that they are terrorists. And a
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: lot of people talk about the Israeli hostages. You understand
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: that before October 7th, there are 5,000, Palestinian hostages in prisons.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: One of every five Palestinian has been put in jail.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: You understand? So put that in perspective. America has 330
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: million people. So imagine.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Some people are missing.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: How many people are missing?
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: 300.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: So imagine out of those, about 65 million Americans is
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: in jail right now. This is the reality of Palestinians.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: So at a certain point, if I'm talking to people
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: who are listening to us now, you have a farm,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: you have a land, you have your cows, your herd,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: your family. Imagine for 75 years, your house has no privacy.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Your family has no sanctity.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: You can't go to sleep knowing that you're going to
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: wake up and your house will be yours in the morning.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: You go in, people take them, being pushed out, they
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: take their land. At a certain point, you have to break.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: You have to snap.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So you're saying that what happened on October 7th is
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: just a buildup of a long series of things. That's
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: just a pinpoint.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: And it's not new. I know a lot of people
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: say like, I'll give an example. 2014, exactly 10 years ago,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: in Gaza, 2,200 Palestinians were killed, dead. 500 children killed.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: There was no October 7th. You understand? There was no
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: October 7th.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: But they go in because it's, and I gave this
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: example to Chris Cuomo once. It's like, Israel is like, Palestine,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Gaza and West Bank is like a small fishbowl. and
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: you have the power to go into this fish bowl
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: and you just like kick the shit out of those
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: fish anytime you want. At a certain point, one fish
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: will be crazy enough, suicidal enough to jump from the
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: fish bowl and bite you where your pinky, that's October 7th.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: So you're going, oh I'm gonna destroy, it's already destroyed.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're creating piranhas.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: You understand that in just eight months, Israel have bombed
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Gaza more than America has bombed Iraq for eight years.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: In eight months. You don't do that. You don't do that.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: And of course they tell you, oh, it's collateral damage,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: which crazy, right? Oh, those people that died, it's collateral damage.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: We really wanted to take that terrorist, but the school
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: got in the way. I mean, the geography is very hostile.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Every time we kill Hamas, they just like, schools and
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: babies come out of nowhere. I shouldn't be laughing at this.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's dark because sometimes I feel that Israel
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: has some sort of a program called No Civilian Left Behind.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, it doesn't matter if you're a
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: little kid playing soccer or a Hamas terrorist, you get
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: a piece of the action. It's like, you understand?
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like favored nations.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Because I, as an Arab, I have no power. I'm
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: not powerful as the United States. I'm not powerful as Israel.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: So all I have to do is just like laugh
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: at this.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Because that doesn't work. So- Back to 1948, they displaced 750,000 people,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: and they continued to occupy the land every single day.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: So you said that in 1948, what was that movement called?
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: And that was just like in one day it kind
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: of happened?
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the establishment of the state of Israel
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: in 1948, 15th of May, 1948.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, and so when Israel established itself, and is Israel
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: able to establish itself by itself, or did they have
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to have support from Britain and America?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Well, Israel didn't establish itself over one day. I mean,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: they've been doing it there, but like having like pushing
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: people into it from other countries. And actually they had
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of support from England and from America. And
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I find it very interesting how that Israelis made Americans
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: think that terrorism is something that has been invented by
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Arabs or Muslim. Because if you talk to anybody, terrorism, oh, Arabs, Muslim,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: you know that the first terrorist attack ever in the
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Middle East was carried out by Israel. 1946, in July,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Israel bombed King David Hotel, killing 91 British soldiers, 91.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: And it was led by a stern gang, which is
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yitzhak Shamir, who later became the Prime Minister of Israel.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: So they have been killing people, they have been terrorizing
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: people all through, and then they call Palestinians terrorists.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: So when that one day comes, the establishment of Israel
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: as a country, Is it like a certain, at that day,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: is there just like a mass where everybody has to
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: move out of this space and this is ours and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: this is yours?
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: They basically move them into, if you go get back
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: the map, they move them into the West Bank and Gaza.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: And then in that map that we've been, yeah. And
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: you see the third one?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: So now all of the Palestinians are into this. 1967,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: we go to war with Israel, Egypt goes to war,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: get its ass kicked because we had Nasser messing up
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: big time.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: In 1967, Egypt went to war?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with, and then Israel.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: With who, with Palestine? With Israel. With Israel.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: And then after that, Israel could actually completely control the
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: West Bank and in Gaza.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: So now, this is under, so what you could see
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: in all of these green marks is an occupation. And
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: let me say it again, it's an occupation. It's a
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: military force that is occupying people, and it is an
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: occupation because of a land that has been disintegrated from
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: this to this.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: So you're saying that it wasn't the occupation, it was
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: by force, it was never by like agreement.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how can you agree to?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Is there a lease? Like, what does the lease say?
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: The what?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: The lease. The lease.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: There's no lease when you occupy. What did the lease
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: say in France when Nazi came in and took over
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: your land? You have nothing to say. You have people
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: coming in with.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Most Jewish people I know are landlords, you know? So
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: it's like, I can't imagine they would do this without
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: a lease.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Well, if you have an army next to you, why
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: would you need a lease? Because till today, till today,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: like you have, go into the internet and find just
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: like Israeli settlers, terrorizing Palestinian farmers. Just random thing. You
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: have like 100 videos. Happens every single day. So, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: this is why I'm talking because everybody is focused on
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: this little strip, on the Gaza strip. But people don't
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: know what is happening in those green scattered... This is
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: happening every single day. Every single day people... By the way, the.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: The hostages are not 5,000 people anymore. After October 7th,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: it's now 12,000 people. 12,000 Palestinians in prisons. In prisons.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: So when you talk about hostage, and I just want
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: to get people back to October 7th. When Hamas did this,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: and I'm not defending Hamas. I'm not into any kind
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: of support of any group. But they said, we will
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: release the hostage if you release our hostages. Because you
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: have been going into our houses and taking people. Half
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: of the 5,000 people that I told you about, half
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: of them are women and children. Half of them. And
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I'll just give you an example because I know what
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: people tell you. Oh, but these are terrorists. I'll give
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: you an example of a terrorist. Soad Zuraikat, she is
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: a Palestinian mother.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Wait, so we have to say it slower.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Soad Zuraikat.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Soad Zuraikat.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: She's a Palestinian mother. Her husband was killed. And then
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: she wrote on Facebook, may God unite us in heaven.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: The Israeli authority said, considered that as an incitement for terrorism,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: and they took her and they put her in detention
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: for eight months. That's the kind of people that they
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: will take you for terrorism. And I'm not saying that
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: there's violence, but put yourself in their place. Your house
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: is being taken, your farms are being burned, your cattle
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: is being killed, your kids are being taken in front
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: of you, your woman, your wife may be even raped
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: and taken away and sexually molested. How long can you
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: keep going? Because, but we want peace. This is not
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: a peace. This is subjugation.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: So you're saying that over time, it's like a slow
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: devouring of the Palestinian people is kind of what's happened.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. It is devouring. As you said, they devour
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: the land. They devour their lives. They are dehumanized. And
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: when you fight back, you're called a terrorist. Now, let's
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: go back to October 7th because this is very important.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: October 7th. Hamas, which is a militant group that is
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: living in Gaza that has won the election in 2006,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: but they were never allowed to take power because Israel
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: started bombing them.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Hamas was actually an elected group.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Okay. And when they ran for election, what were they like?
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: They were running as a group. I mean, Hamas is a,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: They don't like the Palestinian authority that was already there.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: They didn't like them. They didn't like them. And Israel, Netanyahu,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: was so happy with that, and they started to give
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: money to Hamas in order to bolster them and make
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: them stronger. And he said in the Likud party, in
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: his party, he said, the only way to prevent a
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Palestinian state is to make the Palestinian factions fighting the
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: whole time. He said that. So he created a monster.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: So he saw that, so you're saying that Netanyahu, who
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: is the president of Israel, or the prime minister, he
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: saw that, okay, there's this alternative group, Hamas, who is
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: causing conflict with the people who are in charge in Palestine,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and so I'm going to fund Hamas.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, and Hamas was, I wouldn't say that they were moderate,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: they would say like, we want to eradicate Israel, whatever,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: and then they kind of revised their charter, but they
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: weren't fund, like, like fans of each other.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: And did Israel definitely fund them?
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: You have Netanyahu on tape actually confessing, facilitating their support
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: many times. And you can look it up if you want.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: What I'm trying to say is they won the election
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: in 2006 and Israel didn't like it and then they
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: started bombing.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Who won, Hamas?
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Hamas. Hamas won by 51% in Gaza. But then they were, like, infighting,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: and it didn't work, and then Israel kind of, like,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: created even a bigger embargo, and then for the past, like,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: 20 years, they've just, like, been going, every time Hamas, like, retaliates,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Israel retaliates, and they retaliate, and they retaliate, but who
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: has the power? Who has the military might?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It's Israel.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it's militants.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Israel is a superpower.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you cannot just, like, cry, oh, we're going
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: to perish because of the militant group. If we're giving
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: you that money, that doesn't work this way. But here's
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: what I want to talk about, which is the most
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: important thing about October 7th, which I find is like
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: a big failure of the American media. When October 7th happened,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: everybody was talking about raping women, decapitating children, putting women
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: in the oven. Even Antony Blinken, the Secretary of State,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: He went into Congress and he described this scene about
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Hamas militants going into a house, raping the woman, blinding
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the father, cutting the limb of a child, cutting a
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: finger of another child, and then cutting the breast of
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: a woman and playing football with it and raping it.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: And I said, wait a minute. How is this happening
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: during war? Where are the Israeli Apache fighters? Where are
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: the response? Because you don't understand how big is Israel?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Israel is like as small, actually as small as New Jersey.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: And in that area of New Jersey, there is like,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: there is a.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: You see? It's almost there.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Wow, it's the same.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, almost there. Yes, a little bit. And you understand?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: You understand? Israel has... has airfields and military camps in
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: every five seconds. It's like Starbucks in New York. The
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: response should be less than five minutes. It took them
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: eight hours.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need a venti missile.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Now, that testimony that I just gave you by Antony
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Blinken came out to be wrong.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Who's Antony Blinken?
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Antony Blinken is the Secretary of State.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: For Israel?
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: No, for America.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: For America, okay.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: So he went and gave that graphic detail in order
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: to bring money, to get money to be sent to Israel.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: These testimonies came out to be untrue, false, fabricated because
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: they were promoted by rescue groups in Israel. They're called
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Zaka and Hadzola United, Zaka, Z-A-K-A. Zaka is a group
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: that has been known to be lying. They fabricated lies.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: babies in oven, babies in laundry lines.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they keep putting the babies everywhere, no matter what
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: side you're on, it's like, oh, the babies are here.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's a baby with a gun or whatever. If
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: you search for them, you will find that their lies
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: has been debunked many times by the Israeli media themselves.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Israeli media, artists, Channel 12, they said that these people
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: have lied to us and they have collected so much
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: money because of their graphic details. And you understand, these
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: are lies that has been repeated by Biden, Antony Blinken,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the State Department, in order to justify the absolute maximum
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: killing of Israel to Palestine. So this was made on
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: a lie.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: So it's propaganda, yeah.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: It's propaganda. Because, you know, I'm not gonna tell you
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: they killed a million people. They raped women. They decapitated babies.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: That have a much more stronger effect because what a
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: baby could do to you.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Baby could do nothing, climb up your leg a little.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: You decapitate him, you must be a monster. So now
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: these are monster death cult worshipers that we can kill
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: and we can bomb everybody. You see that?
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: So it's a perspective. You're like framing it. So you're saying,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: but who's doing that? The Israeli media?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Israeli media. Because all of the, and not
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: just the Israeli media, the American media have propagated these
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: stories and they have never taken back or refuted a
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: single story. And what made me go crazy, the Israeli
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: made themselves, guys, it didn't happen. So this is like
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: the strongest bro code I've ever seen in my life.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: It's like you're lying for your bro and your bro's like, dude,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: that didn't happen. That didn't happen. So America is lying
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: hard for Israel, while Israel itself, the Israeli made itself like, guys,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: that didn't happen. All of these lies didn't happen. The
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: New York Times article screams without words, was debunked to
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: be lies. There was so many people, lies, lies, lies.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: No decapitated babies were found. Only one baby was killed.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Her name is Mila Cohen. She's 10 months old and
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: she was died during an exchange. No decapitated babies. No
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: rape women. Sheryl Sandberg and New York Times have spread
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: all of these lies and they were debunked many, many times.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: And still the American media are running with the lies.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But America, a lot of American media.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Is, if you say that, that would be anti-Semitic. So
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go there. Right? They're telling me
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: everything that I say now is anti-Semitic. But I'm saying
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: that even the Jewish people in Israel telling you these
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: are lies.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Well, my friends, my Jewish friends who, they say that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: They say that the media is mostly run by Jewish folks.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's... It is. They told me that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: It is. All of the corporates, all the CEOs, but
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: that's a different... But I don't want to go into
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: their intention. I'm just giving you a case that... We
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: didn't have to say that, though? Well, according to a
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: bill that was passed by the Congress two months ago,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: there is now an anti-Semitic bill that anything, any criticism
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: to Israel will be counted as anti-Semitic. Any criticism to
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Jewish people who might have a dual loyalty to Israel
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: and America, if you attack them, that will be called anti-Semitic.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: If you talk about AIPAC controlling the elections and giving money,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: that's anti-Semitic. And it's like, wait a minute, that's against
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: the First Amendment of the United States. Because I can't,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I have grown up seeing people shitting on everything, on
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: the American present, on religion, on Jesus Christ.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Gays, whites, blacks.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Jesus, whites, Muslims.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Jesus, Santa.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: But suddenly when you talk about Israel, which is a
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: foreign country that we give aid, you can't speak? You
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: can't talk about, you're labeled anti-Semitic? Why?
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta, yeah, some of it's like, well, we had.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Roseanne Barron, she's Jewish. She said something, she made a
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: joke and our episode got taken down. But if she
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: made it, it was obviously like a joke, you know, like,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: so some of it's just confusing because here's the thing
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. Like, just say if you can't say,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: if we're not allowed to say something, at least tell
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: us what it is.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: No, we're not. They always keep you in this kind
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: of fear of saying something wrong. And they have all
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: of your anti-Semitic ransom. It's like, guys, like you have
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: to stop this anti-Semitic because- Well, it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Becomes this boy that cried wolf kind of thing where
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: it's like you accuse everybody of- Of anti-Semitism. It's like, dude,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I have so many Jewish friends. You think I'd be,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't like Netanyahu. I don't like some
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: of the choices that I feel like that that country makes,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: but I don't, I don't have anything against my Jewish
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: friends though.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm very careful when I talk. I never
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: say Jewish people. I say pro-Zionist. Zionist, Israel, pro-Israel. I
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: never taught. No, no, I don't say about Israel because
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I know that a lot of Jewish people don't like
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: what Israel is doing. I know a lot of Jewish
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: people don't like how they control the Congress. I don't
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: like how a lot of Jewish people that don't like
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: how AIPAC, which is a foreign lobby, and yet is
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: allowed to operate under American local law, that they can
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: openly brag about buying Congress seats, if you go into
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: APAC Twitter account or X account, they would brag about
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: like how 98% of our candidates... Do.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Not accept all cookies if you go over there.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like go to their... No, not network, APAC. Just, yeah, APAC.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: It's A-I-P-A-C.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: A-I, A-I-P-A, A-I, A-I.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: And APAC.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, not tracker.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, APAC.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one. Yes.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: And what is APAC?
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Yeah, public affairs, yeah, public affairs.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: So go down, go down, and see what they talk
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: about the elections. When they talk about the elections, they
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: always talk about, like, they end it with, yeah, another great,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: being pro-Israeli is good policy and good politics. They end
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: that with every, 100% of ABAC and Georgia Democrats want
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: their primary rate, 100%. How is like a foreign country,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: like a foreign, like a lobby that's worked for a
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: foreign country, brags about buying your elections like that? You see,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: being pro-Israeli is good policy and good, they end every
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: single thing tweet is like that. They are basically looking
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: you in the eyes and say like, we're buying your
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: elections and you can't do anything about it. So I
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: can accept that from NRA because the NRA is a
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: domestic group, right? At least it presents the interest of
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: American gun owners. Oh, this is a very... Oh, I
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: just saw this guy recently.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Mr.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Massey who said like each one in Capitol Hill has
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: an APAC handler. It's like I need to talk to
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: my guy. Everybody but me has an APAC person.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: What does that mean, an APAC person? It's like your babysitter,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: your APAC babysitter who is always talking to you for APAC.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: It's just kind of like having an agent or whatever.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like a hand.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, go continue. And I don't understand why every
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: American politician have to go there and bend the knees.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: You go have lunch with them and they've got your
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: cell number and you have conversations with them. Well, I
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: think part of this... I'll talk to my AIPAC person.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: It's clearly what we call them, my AIPAC guy. I'll
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: talk to my AIPAC guy and see if I can
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: get him to, you know, dial those ads back. group
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of Americans who lobby on behalf of Israel. But I
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: think also it's like, you have to look at it
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: as like, we live in a country that is a capitalism, right?
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: And they are, like Israel just does, they're the best
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: business people, you know? They're like, it's almost like monopoly
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: and they won. Okay. You know, that's what I feel
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: like sometimes. Yeah, they won and good for them. They're
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: very good.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: But like, how does an American feel?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: But you can't hold it against them because they are
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: good at this. You can't hold it against them because
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: they won, right?
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: So you cannot hold it against Israel, but you hold
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: it against Russia if they try or China if they try.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: So why do we accept it from Israel but not
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: from Russia?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Except what?
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Except them controlling the elections. You understand? So you have
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: an AIPAC, which is a lobby, basic lobbying for another country.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: This is in the news and you can look it up.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: They paid $ 100 million in order to buy seats for
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Congress people and Senate. And because of the people they
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: were able to put there, they were able to approve
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: $ 26 billion to Israel. So understand, as an American, your
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: politicians are being bought for $ 100 million, and because of that,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: your country will send 26 billion to a different country.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: 26 billion that could have been spent in my own country,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: in my own community. This is the biggest, the best
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: return of investment ever. You pay 100 million and I
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: take back 26 billion from you. That's crazy. And this
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: is why when I talk about what's happening is I'm
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: not even, you see like, oh yeah, you've missed that.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: What you just had, AIPAC targets Progressive with $ 100 million
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: in its coffers. So basically anybody who talks against you
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: in Congress, you pay, basically you pay them out, and
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: then you take more money. Don't we as Americans deserve
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: the $ 26 billion.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: To be put in our communities? Oh, I agree 100%.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's like, this is, we give them money,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: but they control us?
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: This is like.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's fucking business, dude.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: This is like a sugar daddy who's being slapped around
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: like a bitch from his sugar baby. This is like
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: basically picking up a whore in the strip mall, in
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: the strip in Las Vegas, and then suddenly she's in
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: charge of your life. This is like having a dominatrix
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. It's like, I'm gonna kick your
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: balls and you're gonna like it. And you're gonna pay
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: me $ 26 billion for it. It's like, that doesn't work.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Because I come from the Middle East and I'm used
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: to dictatorship. I am used for us having no voice.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: I'm used to a certain class of people controlling everything.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: the country, but even then, we knew that these people
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: are not in control because they had to answer for
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: China or Russia or America or France, right? Because we're
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: a dictatorship. This is how dictatorship works. A democracy loving
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: country like America or Britain go control a certain country
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: and it's easier for them to deal with a dictator.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: So we knew that they were not calling the shots.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: It was called from Washington. I'm fine with that because
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I'm a third world country. We're from the Middle East.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: We have to follow the masters of this planet. Now,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: I came to America and I became an American. I
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: thought I was like joining the winning team. I will
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: have a say in my country. And then suddenly my country,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: the most powerful country in the world, the superpower in
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: the world has its policies being dictated from Tel Aviv.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: How does it work?
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: You see? And it's fine, and I ask Americans, guys,
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: are you used to this kind of humiliation? You're supposed
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: to be like from a country for the people, by
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: the people, and then suddenly your elections and being dictated
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: by a different country, how does it work?
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: But to me, the thing is just like making it,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: is it true or not? It's like, just tell me
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: what's happening.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: I just told you.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: So whatever, I just told you that like a foreign
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: lobby from a foreign country is controlling your politics right
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: in front of you. And then you have, and by
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: the way, I understand how lobby works. Because, but remember
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: when Democrats was giving shit to Republicans, were they having
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: so much money from NRA, right? Oh, you're taking money
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: from the gun lobby. How dare you? And then the
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Republicans were attacked. You're taking money from tech. Israel is
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: the only country that gives both sides and nobody questions.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: So basically it's not, caring about the education will not
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: get you elected. Caring about healthcare will not get you elected.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Caring about the well-being of your American constituents will not
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: get you elected. It is caring about what's good for Israel.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: So yes, guys, our neighborhood is shit. We have no sewage,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: no education, but God bless Israel. It doesn't, you're basically
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: having a lot of people elected for your Congress to
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: look for a different country, to look out for a
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: different country.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: To me, it does seem very bizarre. Yeah, I think
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff, like when it hits my
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: heart over the past, like especially eight months, you know,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: it's been, it makes me feel like there has to
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: be a way better way to figure things out.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: It's all about like fear mongering. They will tell you,
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: but Israel is alone. It is surrounded by enemies that
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: want to wipe us.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Is that true or not? Is Israel surrounded by enemies
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: or not? Bring the map of the Middle East. Because
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons I'm sure America and Israel have a, like,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: work together is because they need each other, right?
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, so Egypt is surrounded by Egypt. Egypt is the
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: biggest military force in the Middle East. That's my country.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: And they have having like a 45 years lasting peace treaty.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: There has never been a single missile or bullet shot
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: from Egypt to Israel all over that. So Egypt and
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Israel have a good- Yeah, Jordan is the other country's peace.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: The UAE piece, do you have, really the big threat
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: for Israel is the little militant group in the Gaza Strip,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: which is Hamas, and Hezbollah, which is south of Lebanon.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: And if you have all of that military might.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Hezbollah, the president?
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's up there. Like you see the gray area,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: like in Lebanon? Yeah. So basically you have like two
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: militant groups who doesn't like you, right? Supported by Iran,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: which is far away from you. And you have all
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: of these Arab countries around you, basically friends with you.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: So all of you, they wanna kill us all. We're
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: gonna perish. Well, fuck you.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: All of this.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: You see Saudi Arabia, they have like almost normalized relationship. UAE,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: one of the countries.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: So you don't believe that. You believe that they have,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: it's pretty stable over there.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: It is a way to push in war and make you,
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: because if you're not threatened, how can you sell the war?
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: And if you talk about October 7th, see what, they
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: want you to believe that before October 7th, there were peace. Actually,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: before October 7th, two weeks before October 7th, Israel bombed
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Gaza three times. Before October 7th, Israel already killed 75
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: children in the West Bank in the same year. All
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: of these numbers were happening. All of this ongoing. There
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: was no peace before October 7th. And you go in
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: and you come with these lies that has never been
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: refuted by the American media, although it was found to
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: be lies. And lies and lies. And you do that
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: because you want to tell people we're dealing with terrorists.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: All of the Arab countries hate us and we have
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: to kill us. And then they will bring in the Holocaust.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I'm very sorry for the Holocaust, guys, but we had
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with your Holocaust. We were just like
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: minding our fucking business.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I was dead or whatever. I wasn't dead. I wasn't alive.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: We were in the Middle East. We were just there.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: And the Holocaust happened to you in Europe. It didn't
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: happen to you because of us. And then you import
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: people from a different continent because you didn't want them.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: You didn't give them visa. You didn't take them as refugees.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, America and Britain, you mean? Yeah.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: And then you put them on our land and then
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: you take our land and then you tell everybody, oh,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: there was no one there.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: So has America showed up or Britain showed up and
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: tried to help like... facilitate like communications to make things
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: better there?
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: There were many tries for peace treaties, but Obama said
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: it best. In his book, he said, the problem with
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Israel and Palestine is that one of them is very
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: strong and one side is very weak. And there's nothing
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: that compels me to give you land. So they will
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: tell you, oh, we gave five chances to the Palestinians.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: And they said, no, that is not true. When I
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: have the whole land and sell you're going to give
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: me 49%, that is not a deal. That's like if
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: you don't like it, we're going to take it from you.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: If you give me like a shitty deal and I
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: don't accept it because that is my land, you're just
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: going to say like, oh, they didn't accept it.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Right, but have there been deals offered one way or
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the other, like peace?
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like there's something called the Oslo Accords. It
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: happened in 1995. The Oslo Accords? The Oslo Accords. And
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: you have Netanyahu bragging on tape saying that I have
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: personally sabotaged the Oslo Accords, so it means nothing.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, the Oslo Accords are a pair of interim agreements
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: between Israel and Palestine Liberation Organization, PLO, signed in Washington, D.C.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: in 1993. signed in Egypt in 1995. They marked the
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: start of the Oslo process, a peace process aimed at
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: achieving a peace treaty based on resolutions of the United
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Nations Security Council. Among the notable outcomes, Oslo Awards were
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the creation of the Palestinian National Authority, which was tasked
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: with the responsibility of conducting limited Palestinian governance over parts
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. So this was
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: helping Palestine create a government?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, but then it was, all over the way, it's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: now clear the Oslo Peace Accords were wrecked by Netanyahu.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: And that was written by Avish Lime, who's an Israeli author.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Because there's people in Israel that don't agree with Netanyahu, right? Yes,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: But honestly, I'm sick and tired of saying, oh, Netanyahu
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: is bad, but the rest of Israel, no. 98% of
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Israeli community said that we're not doing enough in Gaza.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Only 2% says it's too much. 70% of Israelis said
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: that we should not send humanitarian aid to Gaza. A
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: lot of people, and I don't blame, I mean, I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: blame them, but when you tell your people that those
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: are like evils and they're like vampires and they're like killers,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: of course you're gonna hate them. Of course you don't
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: want them to live. But you cannot expect to treat
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: people like animals, and when they behave like animals, retaliate
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: like animals, you go on and complain, right?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: How do you, is there a way Because man, it's just,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: there's so much, there's so much damage done there. Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: How do you find, how is there some sort of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: a solution? Like what direction do you see?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: The solution is fixing the occupation. There is an occupation.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: And why doesn't America and Britain step in and say, look,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: we helped create this in the beginning. We want to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: be here to help us like establish safety for these
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: people now. Okay, America.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: What is America made of? Government. What is the government
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: is made of? Elected officials. These people are elected through what?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: Through elections. Who's controlling the elections and paying for certain
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: people to be there? AIPAC.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: But doesn't every country have lobbyists that try to influence
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: our elections?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Not a foreign lobby like this. Yeah, there is lobbies everywhere.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: But when you have a foreign lobby that works for
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: an external country, that is not normal theory.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: But is that considered just like a... You know how
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: we have.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Like little base or a little, what are the places
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: called if you're in London? Oh, the embassy, like we
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: have embassies in different places. Isn't that just like them
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: having like a human embassy or something like a- No, no.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, kind of?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: I understand, but like that doesn't work with lobbies with
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: parliaments and like, This is, again, this is like imagine
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: a lobby that is openly funded by China and that
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: lobby going there and buying seats for people who are pro-China.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: It seemed like unfair. It should not be accepted in
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: a democratic country.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Why do we allow that to happen? It would seem like, well,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: but then you know what? That's where it comes down
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: to capitalism because it's the same shit that we allow
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: where just like where that drug company came in and
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: hired former people from the FDA to come and work
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: for their drug company. No, that's wrong.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: That's illegal.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: And also the government. I mean, capitalism wants you to
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: believe that there's nothing you can do. It's only the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: free market. Even the free market has some sort of
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: a government control. If a company goes out and become
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: a monopoly, you have antitrust laws. And that government can
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: curb that company. But the problem is the government that
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: should curb the influence of a foreign lobby is being
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: paid by the same foreign lobby. So who would come
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: up and put like a questioning for Israel lobby, the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: people they just paid get into Congress? I paid you.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: I own your ass. You're not gonna go into Congress
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: and then ask why are we following.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: So. Israel's a gangster.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Exactly. This is what really make me disenfranchised. I came,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: you know, I became an American citizen in 2019. And
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: I was so proud. Right in time for the 2020 elections.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: I was so happy. I'm gonna be elected. It took
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: me now four years. I'm not gonna vote in the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: coming elections. What's the point? Like, what about America, man?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: What America? It's like, so now I'm, why would I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: even care to vote for anybody while both of them
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: are competing to be Israel's favorite bitch? It's basically like this.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I'm the best one for Israel. How
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: about being the best one for America? How about doing
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: what's good for America? Is it good for America to
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: pay $ 26 billion? If I'm seeing this, how do I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: feel as an American?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's, well, for one, I think a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't know what to think. A lot
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: of people aren't super clear on maybe what's going on,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Because they're not allowed to because they are being All
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: they need to know is to see the headlines of
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: the news. And the headlines of the news is always
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: something bad about Palestinians or something bad about, nothing is bad.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: They don't spend enough time because they want their ESPNs
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: and they want their Netflix. They don't want to involve.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: That's why a lot of Americans are still believing in
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: the raping and the decapitated babies because you can't stay
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: tuned into the news for long. So for them, they
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: do the shock, the lies, And then when people said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: wait a minute, that didn't happen. It's like, ah, it's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: too late now because people are kind of, they're too doubt.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of people do not even
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: believe the news at all anymore, though. I think the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: news has super lost a ton of credibility over the years.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: So what happens? You create a kind of apathy. So
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: people don't care and business go as usual. The Congress
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: getting bought, people getting bribed, $ 26 billion getting sent to Israel,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: people continue having bombing, and then every now and then,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Why is this happening? Because you checked out a long
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: time ago. And then you ask, what can we do? Nothing,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: because they made you check out a long time ago.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: So we have all of these people looking at what
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: the government's doing, looking at what the world is doing.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: It's like, that ain't right, but there's nothing I can
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: do about it. And this is exactly how you run
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: the world. In my country, in the Middle East, I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: do that because you cannot speak up because you're gonna
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: be put in jail. But here, you can speak up,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: but nothing will happen.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: But here I think sometimes you get afraid to even
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: ask questions about stuff. And it's like, well, this doesn't
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: even make any sense. Like, just at least let things
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: make sense to me. For me, not be able to
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: ask questions and shit is just fucking, that's the thing
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: that's really, really weird.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's all about like the attacking. So if
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: you to go and you repeat what I just told you,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, he's a liar. He's an anti-Semite. He
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: hate Jews. Okay, what did he lie about? They will
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: never give you a details. What did he lie about?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. On the second Piers Morgan interview,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I went up to him and I gave him a story.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: I told him that Israel used to give contraceptive pills
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: to the Ethiopian Jews, Ethiopian Jewish women who were immigrated
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: from Ethiopia. And for more than 15 years, Israel would
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: give them contraceptive shots without them knowing. So they would
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: sterilize them. They would not allow them to breathe because
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: they are black.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Dude, you know what I noticed, dude? I was in
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Atlanta at the Coca-Cola factory or whatever, and you can
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: taste all the sodas from around the world.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Look.
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  Speaker 1: Ethiopian women in Israel get contraceptive without consent, huh? Yeah.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: So when I, Benjamin Netanyahu was in the government and
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: he came out and he personally apologized, right? So this
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: is cut and dry. You cannot, and you know what happened?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: The Israelis on the, oh, he's a liar. That never happens.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: It's here.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: So this is, I'm just preparing you that every time
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: you're going to tell them something, they will tell you, oh,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: it's a lie. It's a lie. Nobody said that. Nobody
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: said that.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of that's just, yeah, people, will position
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: themselves constantly. You know, it's like people are, especially if
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: people are up to no good, nobody wants to get caught.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: A lot of times. Yeah.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: It's like you saying something and somebody, you're a racist.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: It's like, wait, what did I just said that was racist? Oh, no, no,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: you're racist. You're making me uncomfortable. You see that, the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: way that they attack you?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, attack what I said.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm racist, dude, I do it at home, behind
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: closed doors.
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  Speaker 3: But this is, you're anti-Semitic, you're racist, you're a homophobe.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: The way that they use, like the same way, oh,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: you're Islamophobe. I don't like this word, Islamophobe.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody cares about that shit anymore.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: Nobody cares.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Well, people have thrown around some of those terms so
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: many times, it's like the boy that cried wolf kind
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: of in a way. It's like, you can't... I can't,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: you can't make it feel like I can't ask something
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: or talk about something. Yeah, it just, sometimes it just,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: sometimes some of that stuff is strange. And it's hard.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, some of this stuff is even hard to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: talk about because it's like, I worry that even just
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: by having like some of this conversation, it's like, you just,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: it's kind of scary because I don't know what I
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: could get in trouble for.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: But this is scary, man, because like, I'm new to
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: this country. So like, I'm kind of like following your
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: lead guys. And I'm saying like, wait, isn't this country
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: made created on the cornerstone of freedom of expression. Why
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: is there some things that we are not allowed to
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: speak about or afraid? This is the promise of the West.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Come here and speak and say whatever you want no
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: matter how offensive it is, it doesn't matter because it
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: is words. But then suddenly you come here and you
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: find all of these red lines. And I was made
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: fun of like when I came, oh, you came from
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: the Middle East, you have all of these red lines.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: You cannot speak about that. We can't speak about Jesus.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: We can't speak about the American president. You can't speak.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: And now I come here and I see the red line.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: You have one red line.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: And you have one red line. Everybody here, not you.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Then that red line, everybody can see you guys cannot
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: be able to talk about, which is Israel. This is
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: your red line. Your red line is not even in
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: your country.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Which is crazy.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: That's a crazy statement.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Dude, I'll tell you what I heard, dude. I heard
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: that Jesus did like a lot of impersonations and stuff. Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: What did he impersonate? His dad?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Just his friends and stuff. But I heard that somewhere.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know where I read that, but he would
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: do like impersonations, I guess, or whatever.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: What he would be like the Archangel Michael. It's like, hey, Jesus. Hey, Jesus.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: So an archangel walks into a crowd.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you something about like things that people
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: find offensive, for example. we were basically profiled as Muslims
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: that we hate.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Slims, we call them.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, slims.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: I made that up a couple years ago. It's like a,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's a racial slur, but
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: if it is, you're welcome.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Slims?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: It's like the slims of cigarettes?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Whenever we say Muslims, we say slims. I think it's,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I really like it. Some people might not like it,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: and that's okay.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: One thing that kind of drives me crazy sometimes, we
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: like Israel, but we don't like Muslims. Why? And then
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: Paul is like, Judeo-Christian values. Have you heard about that?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Judeo-Christian values. Guys, what do you talk about Judeo-Christian values?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: You understand that people in Israel hate Christians. You understand that?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: That's not true, you think?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: You go right now in the video, and you write,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Israelis spitting on Christians in Bethlehem or spitting on Christians
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: in Israel. You see? Spitting, hitting attacks on Israel and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: surging in Israel. Occupied Islam, ultra-Jewish, spitting on Christians.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: But this could be specific stuff.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: No, no, this is part, okay, so. You know what
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: I'm saying?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: This might not be an everyday thing, because I have
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of friends that are Jewish, and they'll treat
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: me bad.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: There's like so many videos. It's just like the videos
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: keep scrolling as we say, that's not that very, you
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: see how many videos right now we're talking? The videos
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: keep scrolling. It's not that everything, but we happen to
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: have 100 videos to say that that's true.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, it says there's only 2,000 videos.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, and you have actually one of their ministers, Ben-Gavir,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: who is the basic national security, as we said, it
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: is actually part of our religion. There's no hate about that.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: And many of their rabbis will say that Jesus right now,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: Jesus is the son of a whore. The Virgin Mary
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: is a whore. She made up the whole thing about
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: the Son of God in order to cover for her adultery.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: And Jesus right now is being burned with feces and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: semen for eternity. This is what they say. So basically,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you follow this trend. I've never
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: heard that. Yeah, you can find it out.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: And this is a trend on TikTok?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: No, not a trend. These videos are already there. So basically,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: when Christians go there, the Orthodox Jews will go, haktua.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: They go, haktua. They spit on that thing. And again,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that this represent all Jews, but what
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: I'm saying is if you want net pick about this stuff,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: because I grew up as a Muslim, and all of
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: those videos, net picking of like, oh, look at this
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: extreme Muslim who said that. Oh, this must be all Muslim,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: all Muslim terrorists. And you have a lot of those
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: videos and nobody's talking about it. So you understand like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: how this is personal for me? And I'm fine talking
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: about those horrible people in the Muslim community, but talk
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: about everybody. Don't limit our speech. And by the way,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: and I hate the word Islamophobe. Anybody is allowed to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: talk about Islam or the Quran or whatever, I will
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: never call you an Islamophobe. But I'm an equal opportunity offender.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: If you talk about my religion, let's talk about everybody's religion.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: If you're gonna talk about my politics, let's talk about
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: everybody's politics. I'm not here to attack Jewish people. I'm
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: not here to attack Israel. I am just asking for
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: my right as an American to be able to speak
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: about everything without having fear of being canceled or having
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: my career canceled Canceled. I had opportunities, my opportunities in
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Hollywood dried up completely after I took them.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's tougher for Arabic and Islamic entertainers
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: It is tougher, but there's also people who are not Muslims,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: who are not Arabs, who had canceled because of their opinions.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: There have been blacklists of people in tech companies that
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: have been removed from their companies because of a post
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: on Facebook, and this is happening in America. And of
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: course you remember what happened in these colleges where like
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: American students were being beaten by American police for the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: sake of a foreign country. You understand like the American
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: university movement, which one of the most amazing movement that
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: they went out against Vietnam, they went out against South Africa,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: and now they went out against Israel and they're being
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: hit and penalized in their own campuses for just speaking up.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they should be able to do
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: that at campuses, but then what happens is investors or
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: donators to the campuses who don't, who believe what they believe,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: they choose to take their money away.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: And those donors are pro what?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: They're pro money.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: So if you, right, please, Jewish billionaires threaten Columbia universities
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: to withdraw their money. I'm never going to fucking work again. Dude,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: I came here having receipts.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm gonna get in trouble, dude.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: Bro, pro-Israel Jewish billionaires, look, there it is. Billionaires stop
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: Colombia cash over anti-Israel protests. Colombia billionaires, dollars are more giving.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: So you see, what does it, so your donors, the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: donors have more loyalty to a foreign country and telling you,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: if you speak against that foreign country, I'm not even
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: giving you my money.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: But it makes sense, though. That makes sense. If you
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: think that, That you, say you're a, like I'm a
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints fan. If somebody, if somebody puts up
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: a Falcons flag, an Atlanta Falcons flag, and I'm a
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints fan, and it's my bar or something,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: or I'm the one that helps take care of the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: place where they're putting the flag up, I'm going to
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: be upset. I'm going to say, well, I'm not going
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: to help take care of this place anymore if you
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: support this.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: But the Falcon and myself, these are two people in
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: the league, in an American league. But you are basically
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: talking about a different, I'm not even talking about, I'm
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: not even describing, Attacking your team. I made a bad choice.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: I am saying that I don't want my college to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: take part from, you know, I understand why they went.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: They said, like, we need to divest from any investment
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: with the Israeli army. Is that fair or not? That's fair. Like,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: I don't want my universities, the universities that I pay
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: tuition to, to be involved with the military or the Israel,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: that's fair. And then you have Bunar, no, we need
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: to be involved in other people's shit. And he need
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: not to speak about that. That doesn't make any sense.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense to me, man.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Well, why don't like Arab, like why don't different groups
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: start to build their own strongholds of like university and
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: like media organizations so that everybody can have their own channels.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: Most Arabs work in vaping. I don't know that there's
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: enough money in the Arab community.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, smoke signals.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: We just said that Jewish people are very good in business.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: We can't compete with that. We just have hookahs and vapes.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: We can't compete with them. But you see, if that
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: is the case, don't call it a democracy anymore. If
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: the whole idea about who pays the more money, it's
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: an oligarchy. Don't call yourself democratic. Just say, hey, it's
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: a capitalist country. Whoever has more money, but that's dangerous
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: because tomorrow China might have more money here and control it.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: So it has to be a fair game for everybody.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: But it's not fair because now they say TikTok, we
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: need to ban TikTok because it's against Israel because it's pro-China.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: So you're not even making the game fair. If Israel
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: can buy its way through it, anybody should buy the
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: way through it.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. You're saying, well, then
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, then China should be able to
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: do it too.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: And Saudi Arabia is able to do it, and Iran
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: is able.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: To do it. But Israel's an ally. I guess, like...
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Why is.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: Israel an ally?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know why.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: And which ally have you given $ 26 billion?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know, dude.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: You see, but this is the thing. We're repeating that, oh,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Israel is our greatest ally. Why?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but you have to have... Well, here's why.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: I believe, this is what I've always been... kind of like,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: I guess, heard, is that you have to have an
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: ally in the Middle East because there's so much oil
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: and power and money over there.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: America doesn't have allies in the middle. What about Saudi Arabia?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: The biggest oil production company in the world. Iraq, Egypt, UAE, Kuwait.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: All of these are allies for the United States.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Saudi Arabia is an ally. I
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: don't know about that.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Really? Saudi Arabia is the most beneficial for your economy.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: They are the biggest buyer of your weapons.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Except for those two buildings in New York City, dude.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Outside of that. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: Well, and so why didn't you go after them?
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Because I guess somebody owed somebody some money or something.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: That's about 9-11 now because it's a bigger issue. We're
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: going to go really down the rabbit hole. But here's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: the thing. You have all of those people that are allies.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: What has Israel done to you being an ally? It
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: has ruined your reputation in front of everybody. Everybody hates
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: America because of Israel.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. You think so?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: Everybody hates America because of Israel. I'm telling you. And
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: that's why they hate America because of what Israel is
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: doing in Palestine. And how America is supporting Israel forever.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: And if you find America supporting the killing of my people,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: you can't help but people hate you, right? At a
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: certain point, I don't think that Israel is a good
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: ally for us. They are costing us a lot of money.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: They are harboring a lot of terrorists. They are Jewish
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: Defense League. There are three people from Jewish Defense League
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: in 1994 who killed an American citizen and they escaped
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: to Israel and Israel is not delivering you. Is that
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: a work of an ally? Israel hit the USS Liberty
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: in 1967. It's an American vessel. Is that an American?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: There's a book called By Way of Deception by Victor
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Ostrovinsky who was an ex-MOSAD officer who said that Israel
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: knew about the 1982 Lebanon bombing where 52 Americans were
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: killed and Mossad held the information because they want to
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: do it in spite. Is that the work of an ally?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: Israel harbors the biggest number of pedophiles in Israel, more
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: than 50 people at least from 2014 by the Jewish
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Watch community. There's actually a Jewish group who have actually
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: said that. So you have people who are molesting American
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: children in America and they're escaping to Israel using the
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: dual nationality thing and Israel is not giving you back.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Is that the work of an ally?
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: If somebody's a molester, you gotta send them back.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: It's on CBS News if you want to look at.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Like CBS News, you can talk about it.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: You don't like Israel, I think.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: I don't like Israel, no. I do not like it.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: I think their ways are evil. You see how Jewish
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: American pedophiles hide from justice in Israel. That's CBS. I'm
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: not making this up.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of them too would hide by the, would
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: hide by the Winn-Dixie in our area. Is this a
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: work of an ally?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: Is an ally giving you $ 100 million to bribe your politicians,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: buy your elections, and then make you pay $ 26 billion?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: That's not a work of an ally. If someone takes
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: $ 70 million of tax exempt money for their veterans, that's
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: not a work of an ally.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: But how much, how many issues did America create for
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: itself just with its own practices of doing those sorts
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: of things to other countries and stuff, I wonder. You
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? I wonder if there's a part of,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: if that's true, I don't know.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, America has known to finance and carry out
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: coups in all kind of different countries. In Latin America,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: they're known to overthrowing a government if they don't like.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: For example, it happened in Chile, it happened in Argentina,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: it happens in so many places. It happened in Iraq,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Iraq in 1954, there was like an elected official that
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: they thrown out because of oil agreements. America is known
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: to manipulate the whole world. That's what superpowers do. Like
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: the Romans did it, the Greeks came, I accept that.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: I accept that because you're the police of the planet. Yes,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: it happens, it comes with a cost.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: It's terrible. But couldn't that evolve and then Israel could
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: just become that?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Like if we were the leader at one time, Couldn't
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: Israel be the leader at one time? Couldn't China be
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: the leader at one time?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Well, China I can accept because it's a superpower. But
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: Israel is a client state. It's a small state. This
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: is like basically you living, you working in a corporate
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: and the CEO coming every day and shitting on your office,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: shitting on your office. It's like, but he's the CEO,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: he's the owner. But then he brings his little poodle
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: and then he shits on your desk. That's too much.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: That's Israel, right? I can accept it because you are
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: the superpower of the world, but don't bring your brat
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: dog to do it on my desk. That's too much.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: Because the only way that I can do anything for
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: that dog is that the owner is the CEO and
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be fired. So that's basically, Israel
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: is the bulldog that's harassing everybody around it in the region.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: And they hate us, where are we gonna perish? Fuck it,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: you're not gonna perish. You have nuclear weapons, you have like.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fine.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: They're fine now. They're fine. And then how is it
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: sense of self-defense? Because I'm sure that you've seen these videos,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: all of these IDF soldiers wearing women's lingerie, taking like
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: the women's, the kids' toys, destroying empty hospitals, destroying empty
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: schools just for the fun of it. That doesn't look
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: like an army that is defending itself.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Well, to me, it's felt like the feeling of it
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: is that, um, like usually when you hear, I mean,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: I've said this before, usually when you hear like free
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: a place, that's the place that needs help. You know,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: it's like, you don't hear like free Michigan or free
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: America or free China, you know, or sometimes you hear
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: free China, but, um, But yeah, if you hear free Palestine,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: if you hear that, then that's usually, if something becomes
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: that big of a fervor that that's the campaign slogan,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: that place usually needs some sort of help. How does
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: someplace that's stronger, like Israel that has so much, how
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: do they... help? How do we.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: Get to it? Why would they help? They just want
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: the land. Remember the map that we saw how they disintegrated?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: This has been ongoing from 1940s.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: But they obviously have enough of the land.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: No, they want the whole land. They want all of
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: the West Bank. They want all of Gaza. And they
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: have said many times on television that the only way
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: this would happen if People in Gaza go into Egypt
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: and people in the West Bank are driven into Jordan.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Is this a legitimate map? Did you draw this map?
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: It's from the internet. But they have been telling you openly,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: we're going to displace you.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: But at a certain point, they have to recognize, hey,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: we haven't, this is.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: No, they don't care. They haven't... Well, let's see, that's
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: the part to me that's not cool, dude. Show me
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: in this map anywhere where Israel has scaled back. What
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: they have done, they have moved forward to disintegrate the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: land more, push the people more, abuse the people more,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: and because they have the power, because they have America
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: behind them, they are not compelled to do anything different.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Well, they feel like they're in the right.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, they feel in the right, because it's given, the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: Bible gave it to me, because God gave it to me,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: so if I believe I'm the chosen people, I can
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: do whatever I want.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: And I have to tell you, like, a lot of
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: people ask me, Bassem, are you religious? I say, like,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: if these are God-chosen people.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: I have doubts.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to lose my job for another two more
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: years for laughing at all. But do you think, though,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: that why doesn't America help Palestine? Why don't we?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: Because they help. I just told you. What is America?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: America is a government. This government is made of officials.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: These officials are elected. They need money for the elections.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: Who pays for election campaigns?
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: But even still, you can still help someone because they
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: need help. No.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: They don't care. Who's the biggest recipient of donors from Israel?
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: $ 9 million over the years. Joe Biden.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: So why would he help? Why would I help Palestine
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: while I'm getting my money from you? I mean, he
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: can give me all kind of like fancy political talk,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: but it's really about being reelected. So the idea, you
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: are thinking as a human being, what is the right
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: thing to do? And you're right. But the right thing
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: to do is not the right thing in politics. The
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: right thing in politics is to survive and have as
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: much money as possible to stay in power as long
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: as possible. No morals, no right and wrong, nothing. Just power.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Well, one thing that didn't help, by having the term
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: free Palestine, that's going to attract.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: All the.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: But if you label something free something right next to Israel, dude,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: no wonder they keep coming. They should have said a
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: very expensive Palestine.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: It's a very expensive Palestine, but it is expensive. It's
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: costing us a lot of money.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: They should have said under contract Palestine.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: Work in progress, Palestine.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Now, is that a joke? Am I going to go
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: to jail? I don't know.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: Why would you go into, you shouldn't.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: I understand that, but why do I feel like I might?
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: Why do you feel that? Theo, you are an outspoken person.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: You speak about anything. You go on stage and you
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: have no boundaries. When people in America start to have
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: boundaries about a certain issue, we need to ask questions, why?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, I get it.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: And also, it's just like, it's crazy. It's just like,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: maybe it's my disappointment because I bet everything on this country.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: I really, really love living here, being here. And the
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: only thing that I was promised, which is freedom, it
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: seems not to work. And I'm someone who's been canceled
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: a few times from my own country. So I come here,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: it's like, hey, America, Freedom! It's like, oh, freedom of
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: everything except that one thing? Come on, dude. What kind
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: of freedom is that? Maybe I should have like, I
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: don't know, one, two Tel Aviv instead.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it behooves everybody if you can joke
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: about everything. I think that that makes things a lot
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: more chill. How do you handle like, Not agreeing with Israel,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: but still supporting like your Jewish friends and stuff that
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: are in America.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's a difficult choice because the Jewish people,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: here's the thing. They want you to make you think
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: that all Jewish people are with Israel. That is not true.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: A lot of Jewish people do not agree with that.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I have a lot of Jewish friends that
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: are on kind of both sides of this thing.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: You have a lot of, you have a Jewish bloc.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: that every single week that goes out in Europe and
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: in America. Remember when we were talking about those universities, encampments?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: Many of them, there was like a Jewish block that
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: was part, and many of them were even arrested with
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: their Arab and American brothers. But they don't want to
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: talk to you about that. There is, you can find
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: many pictures for Orthodox Jews burning the Israeli flag. Orthodox
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: Jews in New York.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: OJs, yeah.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, OJs. They do not represent us, but they don't
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: want you to see that. They want you to see
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: one thing.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: How do you get?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: Here it is. All of those Jewish people, they don't
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: like what is it.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: We can't show that, dude. We're going to jail.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: Why not? Wait, wait, wait. How many pictures of burned
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: American flag have you seen?
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I don't look at those either.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Not at night anyway. If you have a picture now
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: burning the American flag or the Iranian flag. Oh, you
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: can't even go to jail for it anymore. But like,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: Israeli flag?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Why? Why?
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not inviting people to hate on Israel. I'm not
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: inviting people to hate on Jewish people. I just want
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: to say you need to have the freedom to speak
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: your mind even if it doesn't please certain people because
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: this is democracy. Democracy is noisy and you will listen
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: to things that you don't like, but you should not
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: feel afraid of speaking up your mind.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think the part where I even started
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: to think about it was it just started to seem like,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously what happened on October 7th was horrible and,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: but then it just started to seem like such a
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: overstatement of.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to kill Hamas, we have to kill Hamas,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: but it's just.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: And then they just won't exist. And so, I don't know.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: There's something inside of me, even if I don't know
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: anything about it, there's something inside of me that just says,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: this just feels messed up.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: I like the fact that they say, like, oh, we're
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: doing this for Palestinians. We need them. We will get
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: rid of Hamas for them, and the Palestinians will be grateful.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: And then I see the destructions. I see that, yeah,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of Palestinians who don't like Hamas. But
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: you want to convince me that you want to destroy
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: that place, and then you think those people that will
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: be left will be okay with you?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Palestinian people knew that Hamas was
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: gonna do this October 7th?
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think they knew. And of course, it's devastating
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: for them. And I wish the October 7th never happened.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: But again, we come back, it's like, how long can
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: you take it? How long can you take the abuse,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: the land theft, the killing? At a certain point, you're
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: gonna be desperate. And you're gonna be desperate against a
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: much more stronger enemy. But isn't like.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: When America revolted for tea, they revolted against a much
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: stronger enemy. And I find it very interesting how everything
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: in the American culture, you watch Star Wars, you side
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: with the rebels. You watch the Hunger Games, you side
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: with the rebels. You go to Israel, you side with
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: the oppressor. You don't side with the rebels. You don't
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: side with the people with no weapons. You don't side
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: with the people with the machine guns or the knives.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: You side the people with the military arsenal. Because they
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: were deemed terrorists, less humans, dehumanizing. See how they talk
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: about Palestinians. They are death cults. They are terrorists.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: And what are Palestinians like?
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: Like normal people. Normal people, but they're living in a
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: horrible condition. I married one of them.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, gosh.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: So I can report that she has no fangs or
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: nails other than the nails that she does in the
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: nail salon. So she's like a normal human being. And
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: we have normal kids. And they don't turn into werewolves
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: at night. They are normal people. They are normal people
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: who have been in this land and they were taken
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: away from it. And this was a problem that was
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: imported from a different continent, done by other perpetrators. They
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: were rejected by other white people. And they were just
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: like put on us. And it is terrible and it
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: should not happen.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: So do Palestinians also have issues with Britain and the U.S.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: then probably? Of course.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think they have any time to have issues
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: with anybody. They have time to survive. They're living in
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: tents right now in Gaza. And the people who live
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: in West Bank are under threat to be killed or
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: kicked out at any moment. And I just want people
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: to look at them as humans. Everybody who went to Gaza,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: everybody who went to West Bank saw what happened to
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: those people. And they will speak up. They're being shut down.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: Are you able to look at Israel as humans too?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: Yes. Yes.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: But I look at everybody as humans. And I will
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: not do the same mistake that they have been doing
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: to us, dehumanizing us, calling us terrorists. But they are
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: acting like terrorists.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Why don't we give part of our country to Palestine?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: Why don't you give part of your country to Jewish people?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, why don't we give part of our country
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: to one of the groups, at least that would help.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: Do you think?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: I think, maybe, but it's not... Or an island. What
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: about that? What if you did a merger? You did Palestine.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: Palestine, that's a good one.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's possible? Would Palestine accept something like
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: that where it's like, let's give this place.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not Palestinian, so I cannot speak on their behalf,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: but I think Palestinians want to stay in their land.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: And I think many of those... This is what drives
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: me crazy because it doesn't make any sense. Any Jewish
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: person all around the world, if you're like a Polish Jewish,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: like an American Jewish, just because you're Jewish, you can
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: get the Israeli passport right now. Right now. And once
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: you get the passport, you can come from Brooklyn, land
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: into Israel, take a piece of land that was owned
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: by a Palestinian right on the spot. or a home
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: that is owned by a Palestinian saying that this is
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: your promised land.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Like what do you mean you can walk into the house?
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can just walk in the house and you
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: can have videos of people taking their stuff and barging
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: into a Palestinian home in the West Bank. It happens
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: all the time. It doesn't make any sense. A Brooklyn Jew,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: just because he was born Jew, can just like go
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: to Israel, take the passport and take a piece of
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: land that is belonged to someone else even now as
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: we speak. Does that make any sense?
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: But most people wouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Many people do that. Many people do that. On every
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: single given day, you have planes with thousands of Jewish
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: people from all over the world coming from Eastern Europe,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: coming from Africa, coming from Latin America, coming from America
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: and settling in the land, settling in Arab land.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: Do the Palestinian people, do they have a police department?
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: They have like, They have something called the Palestinian Authority,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: which is an oxymoron. And they are called the Palestinian Authority,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: but show me an authority that has absolutely no say
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: about the foreign people coming in and taking land from
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: your people.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My friend got a job at the airport, and
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: he was a little guy, right? And they gave him
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: a billy club, and it weighed him down that he
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: was so little. He's like, He probably weighed 60 pounds
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: or whatever. I think he's more effective, more than the
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Palestinian Authority. He has more power than them. The club,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: when you'd see him run, he almost had to run
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: sideways because of the way the club would shuffle and
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: block his legs.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: I wish it was that funny.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: What's the solution? You have to have some... The solution
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: is to end the occupation.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: And the solution is that Israel should stop killing Palestinians
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: and taking their land. It's as simple as that. Details,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: what land, how much, well, that's not my thing to
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: say because I'm a comedian, not a politician, I'm not
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: a Palestinian. There are Palestinian politicians that can talk on
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: their behalf, but I can tell you whatever is happening
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: now is wrong. And I'm not, it's not my problem
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: or my issue to come up with a solution because
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: I didn't cause that crisis. It's someone else caused it
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: and it's not for me to fix it for them.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: But what I can say, what's happening is wrong.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: Are any American or British leaders And some of this stuff,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know a ton. I'm trying my best to learn.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: Is some American or British leaders trying to help negotiate that?
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Have we tried over the years to help?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's always been skewed towards Israel.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Is that true, though?
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Because both sides have rejected peace agreements, right?
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, but one of them rejected it because basically you're
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: giving them a very shitty deal, and the other side
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: rejected it because they want more. And now they're telling you,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: it's like, hey, you know what? Forget about the second state.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: Forget about two-state solution. Even the Israelis say that it's
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: all ours now. Forget it.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: What about like Ladder and Bloom or something? Who is
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: doing the, or Remark or something? Who's negotiating it all?
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: There's no negotiation now. Like Israel hasn't gone to the
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: negotiation table for the past 20 years.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: Like is Gaza on Zillow?
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: I think if there's Zillow's- I'm just joking, dude.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Is that offensive?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, no, no, no, no. I learned to
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: laugh about everything. It's like, I think Zillow's like... Here's the.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Thing, if it's not on Zillow, I don't think you
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: can take it.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: However, it's not in Zillow. It's not, oh, wow.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: But I think one thing about a lot of my
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Jewish friends I notice is they do a good job
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: of working together, you know?
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: Jewish people are great business people. And, uh, I, I
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: don't want to kind of be the guy who said, Hey,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: I have black friends, but like, I honestly like my agents,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: my managers, and, uh, they all come from companies that
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: are overwhelmingly Jewish people. And I have no problem dealing
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: with it. My, my, my, my utmost friend and the
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: guy that I look up to is Jon Stewart. And
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: he's the reason why I'm known to America. When I
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: came on his show, he came to my show. I
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: love him to death. He's my big brother. and is Jewish.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: That's why I don't fall into this like Jewish, Jewish,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: Jewish thing. Now, there are just like bad people that
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: happen to be Jewish, and there's bad people that happen
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: to be Muslims. There are bad people that happen to
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: be Christians, and there are bad people that happen to
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: be atheists. I don't look through the lens of religion,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: but I can see people who would use religion in
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: order to advance their policy. The same way that ISIS
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: and Qaeda used Islam in order to promote themselves as
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: the only speakers of Islam, we as Muslims rejected it.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: And the way that Israel is speaking on behalf of
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: all Jewish people, Jewish people, a lot of Jewish people
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: are rejecting that because it's not anti-Semitism to attack Israel.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: It's not anti-Semitism to criticize Zionism. It's just like freedom
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: of expression. And that is why I don't hold, but
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: they wanna reduce you. You're a Jew hater. Dude, relax,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like when people say that sort of thing.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a way to shut down the conversation, to
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: scare you, to intimidate you, to make people have like
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: a negative reaction to you without even you speaking.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Dude, if I hated Jewish people, I would know.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: You would know, you would know.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, I would feel like
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: I'd be the first to know.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: You go to New York and not eat bagels, you'll know.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I would have an inkling.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: Your boy called Bagels in New York.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, don't do that, dude. Have you had debates
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: with friends, like, on this topic a lot?
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, many times, many times. And some of them listen,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: some of them are set in their ways, like anything. Like,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: that's true for... Americans, for Egyptians, I have debates about
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: the Egyptian revolution with Egyptian friends who would never listen
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: to my point of view. So yes, it's a very
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: emotionally charged topic. So you will have people coming in
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: very emotional and they will not want to hear.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you heard a good solution idea from a friend?
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: No, a solution is end the occupation and treat everybody
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: living in that land equally. Don't treat them as subhumans.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: But at this point, say they ended the occupation, right? Yeah.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: The kids are never going to forget. It's never going to.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have created a catastrophe. You have created something
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: that will last for decades. Many of those people do
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: not like America right now. They don't like Jewish people
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: like now. They don't like... Oh, you just realized.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because it's American young men and women. They're
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: probably at some point going to have to go and
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: put their blood in a field somewhere. Yes.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: And as an American, I don't want America being involved
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: in wars in the Middle East. I don't want America
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: to be funding wars in the Middle East. I don't
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: want our taxpayers' money going to fund killing babies.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: This, I, I, I- Some babies are assholes, I'll say that.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: Some of them, some of them, I give you that.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of me, every now and then you're like, whoa, dude.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: But like, you don't want your money- But I'm joking too, babies.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't want your money to be part
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: of that destruction.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: Well, our country's fucking falling apart. Everybody is addicted or
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: dealing with addiction, or families are dealing with loss from addiction.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: You killed people's spirits with the fucking bullshit plan for
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: the vaccine. You know, like.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: Don't make it worse and go and pay more money
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: for destruction. If it's already been fucked, like, deal with
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: this fuckery. Don't make it worse.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: And don't go and fuck yourself even more.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: I wish you guys could settle it on the field.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: Is there any sports that Israel and Palestine play against
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: each other?
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: Circumcision. Oh, really? That's the only thing in common.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: And who's winning?
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know Like I think we get Because there
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: are more Muslims I think we're cutting More dicks than they.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah There you go This year Look on the Nas
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: dick Yeah yeah yeah And let's see When you see
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: like The pain in the Like physical destruction And the
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: human destruction That's happening over there And just like The
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: videos of people Being like Mamed And brutalized Um on
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: both sides over there. As a surgeon, that must make
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: you feel some type of way too.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a lot of surgeons and doctors who've
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: been to Gaza and they come back with horrible stories.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all over there. They tell you, because every
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: single hospital in Gaza is bombed. 36 hospitals, all of
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: them destroyed. You have like maternity wards and incubators being killed.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: They have basically a place that has no basic needs
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: and you're bombing the shit out of them every day.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: And you say, oh, we couldn't get Hamas? It's like Israel,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: I think the IDF would be the worst in playing Jenga.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: You know, like, okay, this is a terrorist. Ah, the
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: whole region went down.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: Well, you do think that if the army is that acute,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: that they would be able to be more articulate.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: You mean like killing people less discriminately?
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: Just like getting exactly whoever Hamas is.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they can. They can, but they don't care. Because
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: we have seen them on video killing babies. We cannot
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: just tell me it's by mistake when you have babies
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: with sniper bullets in their head.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: Twice.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: You can't say that's my mistake. You can't say, oh,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: we're trying our best, and then you blow up an
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: empty hospital or an empty hospital school just for spite.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: You can't say, oh, we're not doing that by mistake
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: and you keep, and you cannot have a war when
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: 80% of the people are displaced, 100% of the people are,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: 100% of the place is destroyed, and 50% of the
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: infrastructure is like completely wiped out. It's 80%, it's just,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: you can't, you can't, this is not war, this is annihilation.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: And yeah.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's gonna stop or no?
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: It's been going on for eight months, and I don't
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: know how much they're going to continue.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: I think there was just, what's the latest?
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: They just bombed, there's a video of a refugee hospital.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: All Palestinians to leave Gaza's largest city, the latest. Israel
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: orders all Palestinians to.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: Leave Gaza's largest city.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: Where do they go if they're ordered to leave?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: They just, in the rural areas around, they want to
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: push them into Sinai, but Sinai, they can't be, they're closed.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: And they can't- Sinai's closed? They're borders with Sinai. Also,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: you can see there's a video of a refugee hospital.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: a refugee school in Gaza that the moment that they
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: were playing football and Israel just dropped the bomb as
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: they were playing football.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Let me read this. Israel launched the war in Gaza
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: after Hamas October 7th attack in which militants stormed into Israel,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: killed some 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and abducted about 250.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: Since then, Israeli ground offensives and bombardments have killed more
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: than 38,000 people in Gaza. According to the territory's health ministry,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: it does not distinguish between combatants and civilians in its count.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: Wow. But yeah, that's the video. They were playing football.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: This is like a refugee camp. And then the moment.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: What is a refugee camp?
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: A refugee school. Inside, guys, they're all.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: See?
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: That's every single day. Every single day. That's every single day.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: In schools and hospitals, every single day. That just happened
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: two days ago.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, yeah, I don't know. I just remember when
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: I was a kid, my mom would say sometimes, like,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know why we're sending Israel all this money,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: you know? But she never liked Netanyahu.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but whether Netanyahu or Mounir, we send money to
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: Israel even before Netanyahu. The question is, there's just like
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of questions and we need to be able
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: to ask these questions without having fear of being canceled
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: or destroyed or having our.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Career taken away from us. Well, we fucking threw that
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: out the window this episode.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think you did anything wrong, Theo. Theo, you
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: did well, man.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Even listening though, sometimes.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: Even listening now, you're afraid of listening? What happened to
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: our American freedoms? It disintegrated to being afraid of listening?
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, as a human being, I'm okay. I think just
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: my life, I get worried about being able to still
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: do my job.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: You did nothing wrong, Theo. You got a guy who
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: spoke his mind, which is what Americans are.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: You just gave me a platform to speak my mind,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: and you're bringing someone else who will say the opposite
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: of what I'm going to say. It's going to be
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: up to people to decide.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: How do you like support your Jewish friends like just
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: in the US and stuff or whatever who disagree with
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: the kind of some of the situation there? Is that
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: kind of tough sometimes?
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: It is tough for them. I mean, I have a
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: lot of Jewish friends who are in disagreement with their
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: parents who are pretty much Zionist and they don't agree
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: And a Zionist, what is it again?
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: Just give me one more. Okay, according to Jewish people
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: or Zionist people, it is just simply having a national
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: state of Israel in the Middle East. That's basically. But
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: for us, it's more than that. For us, it's more
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: than this. It's not just the establishment. This is what
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: they tell you, just the establishment. But for us, they
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: have done that by displacing people, colonizing their land, and
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: taking away their homes, taking away their land. For us,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: Zionism is not good. Okay.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: For who?
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: For Arabs and Muslims, because they took a land from
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: Palestinians under the pretense of this thing, and then they
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: tell you, it's decolonization.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: If Israel moved out of the territory there, do you
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: think that... Another group would move right into it?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: No, I don't. There's like, there's seven or eight million
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: Jews in Israel. That's a lot of people to move out.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: Right, but I'm just saying, say if that was vacated,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: would Syrians or Egyptians or somebody else cruise right in there?
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: No, because there are already Palestinians there.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: How many Palestinians live in Israel?
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: Okay. There are 3.5 million who live in the West Bank. 2.3
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: million live in Gaza. So a total of eight. Inside Israel,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: in the territory, there are two million Palestinians live in Israel,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: and there are seven million Palestinians who live outside, refugees.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: And where is one of the largest spaces of Palestinians
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: outside of? Jordan.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: Jordan.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: Jordan. What about in America?
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: No, maybe there are like half a million.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe Michigan?
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. Michigan, there's a lot of Muslims, but
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: many of them are Lebanese, many of them are Iraqis.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: Some of them are Palestinians. I think there are about
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: like 400,000 in America. A total of 7 million outside
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 3: of Palestine. 7 million. Some of them are refugees. Some
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: of them are citizens of other countries now.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: How much longer do you think?
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: I see 175. Oh, 175,000 Palestinian Americans. In America, yeah.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: That's like 0.05. They're very small.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: Some of them are on Wilshire every other Saturday.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: Hey, yeah. Yeah, three of them. Some of them have
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: the best restaurants here.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I'm super glad we got to talk about it.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: Sorry for some stuff I was kind of like trying
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: to like, you know, I just, I think some stuff,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know what, if it's like, I don't know
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: what to say, I guess. And sometimes I just listen
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: because I don't know how to like, some conversations I just,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: you just don't know what to say or do.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I understand because for Americans, Americans have so
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: much to worry about. They have to worry about their
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: own daily life and their own like paying their bills.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's like, why do we have to care
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  Speaker 3: about this remote place in the Middle East that we
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  Speaker 3: will never see? And now why is it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question.
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  Speaker 3: This is like an every day. This is an everyday,
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  Speaker 3: this is an everyday. Why do we have, and I
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  Speaker 3: feel for them. But the reason why Americans should care
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  Speaker 3: about that, because that is affecting our government, our democracy,
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  Speaker 3: our way of life. Because if you're an American, you
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  Speaker 3: think this is remotely, they're remote from you. No, it doesn't,
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  Speaker 3: because it affects the way that you speak about politics.
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  Speaker 3: You hear many times, you say, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to jail. Well, if you talk
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  Speaker 3: about something that's happening that foreign, you shouldn't be worried
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  Speaker 3: about going to jail. should be worried about talking about
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  Speaker 3: the government giving that much money for destruction. So it
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  Speaker 3: affects you. Whether you like it or not, it affects you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one of the bigger problems that we
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  Speaker 1: have is that we facilitate so much war and weaponry
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  Speaker 1: in the world to try and leverage things. But then
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  Speaker 1: maybe that needs to happen for us to have the
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  Speaker 1: safety we have. And maybe we're, you know, It's hard
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  Speaker 1: to know all that stuff, how one thing affects the other.
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  Speaker 3: But you see, I find that this is actually the
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  Speaker 3: end result of every conversation. Oh, we don't know. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: this is what will happen. Yes, in order. But that's
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  Speaker 3: like a way to stay complacent. Yeah, that's a good point.
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  Speaker 3: Because what is happening is not right. All of this money,
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  Speaker 3: all of these billions of dollars coming out from our pockets,
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  Speaker 3: that is not right. And I'm talking about money. Politics
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  Speaker 3: and freedom. These are the three things that are the
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: cornerstones of American life. Our politics, our freedom, and our money.
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  Speaker 3: If we don't know where our money is going and why,
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  Speaker 3: and why is our politics is being taken over by
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  Speaker 3: a foreign lobby, that is wrong. And you need to
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  Speaker 3: start from there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just breaks my heart. I mean, you see
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: what happened over there, and it's heartbreaking, and it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: how do you? Yeah, I just wanted to learn a
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: little bit more about it and I wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: some perspective from somebody that was at least able to
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: speak about it and who was willing to speak up
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: about it, you know, and you've spoken vibrantly about it.
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  Speaker 3: And I understand how difficult it is because maybe some
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: of your listeners, your audience, don't really care about that stuff.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: And maybe for them this is too heavy. But for
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: the people who are interested, what you did is to
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: bring a problem that affects us whether we like it
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: or not. And I'm happy that you're bringing a rabbi
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: to speak about it. on a totally opposite level. And
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: I'm happy that when people have more questions, you bring
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: more people to speak to you. I'm happy to come
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: back again and talk to the people. And because at
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, you listen not just for entertainment,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: but for education. And there's so many things in that
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: world that I don't know. So I listen to shows
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: that will tell me. So I just want, I'm not
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: here to attack anybody. I'm not here to say bad
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: things about anybody. I'm here to just invite people to
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: be more curious and to understand how things work and
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: to form their own opinion, and not just give up to, oh,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: this is the way it is, we can't change anything.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: Because if you said that, nothing would change. And then
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: you will come up tomorrow and you will complain about
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: why things are not changing. It just needs to start
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: from asking questions. Asking questions, open your mind, and I
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: will be more than happy to come back again and
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: talk about, I'm sure that you can have so many questions,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: so many rebuttals, like ask him this, ask him that,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: and I'm happy to come and ask. if you would
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: get me on the show again. And I'm happy to speak.
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  Speaker 3: You see how we talked, it was nothing. There's nothing
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  Speaker 3: threatening of what we did today. There's nothing antisemitic. There's
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: nothing Islamophobic. We didn't go and attack people from different faiths.
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  Speaker 3: We just talk about politics and I might be wrong,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: but prove me wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Bassem, thank you so much, man.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I really appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, inshallah. What do people say?
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: Inshallah is like if God wills.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: If God wills.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: If God wills.
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  Speaker 1: Inshallah.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: Inshallah.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: Inshallah or shallah?
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: Inshallah.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: Inshallah.
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  Speaker 3: I was just like, inshallah.
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  Speaker 1: Inshallah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing. Inshallah. Yes. You can, people can find you.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: BasimYusuf.xyz or Basim at Instagram. I'm starting my Montreal. I'm
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: coming 20th of July. Then I'm going a whole American
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: tour in Florida, Chicago, Minneapolis, San Francisco, Chicago, Minneapolis. I
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: said that, yeah. Tampa, Orlando, Toronto. So I'll see you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Marvelous.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't seen this guy, watch also his interview
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: with Piers Morgan. It's insightful and interesting and funny. And
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: it's okay to say that. We have to laugh in
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: times of pain. That's why God put it into us.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: And yeah, just thank you so much for your time, brother.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Thank you for the space.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: Thank you for accommodating me. I appreciate you. Love all
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: of your listeners, guys. Love you all.
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  Speaker 2: Cornerstone oh but when i reach that ground i'll share
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  Speaker 2: this piece of mind i found i can feel it
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  Speaker 2: in my bones