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Brewers SWEEP Dodgers: Advance to WORLD SERIES, Guardians BEAT Rays | Ross & Rizzo MLB Playoffs · Ross and Rizzo Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Ross and Rizzo Unfiltered. I can't believe
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying this, Rossi, but to the people of Wisconsin
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  Speaker 1: and Milwaukee, your team just won the National League pennant,
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  Speaker 1: and you are four wins away from your first World
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  Speaker 1: Series ever. I hope they're enjoying that up north, the
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  Speaker 1: team from the north, as we used to call them
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  Speaker 1: down in Chicago. But man, Rossi, did they just... play
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  Speaker 1: a complete series right there. I mean, top to bottom,
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  Speaker 1: the entire roster, everyone contributing. Jake Bauer is going off.
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  Speaker 1: Great story. Pitching, starting pitching, the relievers, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just from top to bottom, this team just came out
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  Speaker 1: with a chip on their shoulder. So we got swept
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  Speaker 1: last year by you guys. We're going to come in
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  Speaker 1: this year. No one, not one person. If you bet
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  Speaker 1: on this series and you said the Brewers are going
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  Speaker 1: to sweep, you are the king of gambling, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Just an incredible series, and a big congratulations to the
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers. Again, I can't believe I'm saying this, but
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  Speaker 1: I hope they're enjoying this, and I hope the fans
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  Speaker 1: are enjoying this.
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  Speaker 2: Man, we got another great game tonight. I mean, golly,
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  Speaker 2: that was back and forth. It's amazing to me that
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  Speaker 2: they came back all four games from being down, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what they've done all year. That's who they are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's who they are. They did it all year.
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  Speaker 2: They had a better record when they fell behind than
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  Speaker 2: they did when they took the lead throughout the season.
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  Speaker 2: That's just crazy. But you're talking about a complete team, man. Like,
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  Speaker 2: it was a different guy. It felt like every game.
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  Speaker 2: The leadoff home run from Churrio, the Bryce Terang, Oppo
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  Speaker 2: home run, four hits and five walks in the series.
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  Speaker 3: Contreras, three hits, three RBIs. Bowers, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Mitchell, that home run in games three and four. Like,
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  Speaker 2: they're just up and down the Hamilton, right? Like just
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  Speaker 2: up and.
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  Speaker 3: Down the lineup. They, the bats don't waver.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Stealing bait.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. Running, running down, you know, a lot of guys,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up. Cause a lot of teams,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I felt this way as a manager, when
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  Speaker 2: you're down, they were down four to two. And I
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  Speaker 2: think South Fralick got on and then we're on a
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  Speaker 2: walk and then stole a base. And the next thing
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  Speaker 2: you know, base hit. Now he scores like, most guys
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  Speaker 2: are down. They're like, Oh, we're going to wait. We
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  Speaker 2: don't want to take the risk of getting thrown out. Like, no,
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  Speaker 2: they're still putting pressure on you. Even when they're down,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get one in the six and then
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  Speaker 2: we'll get another one in the seventh. You know, they,
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  Speaker 2: they don't just start playing for the home run when
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  Speaker 2: they get down, they continue to play their brand of baseball.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's why there's so good.
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  Speaker 2: So consistently is because they continue to play their game
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  Speaker 2: up and down the, up and down the nine innings,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt, bro. And how about Shohei? You know, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about it a couple days ago. He's in the media.
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  Speaker 1: He's talking about his struggles. Has a good game yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Hits the big three-run homer to put them up, right?
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  Speaker 1: And that was like, oh, shit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, that's the momentum, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, oh, guy, don't wake up the giant.
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  Speaker 1: Don't wake up the sleeping giant.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And that, like, the script was perfect, right? You got
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  Speaker 1: Scooble tomorrow. You have Yamamoto. You know, you got the
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  Speaker 1: pitching to do it. Like, it's the Dodgers. They can
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  Speaker 1: win four in a row very easily, right? They're down
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  Speaker 1: 4-0 the Brewers, right? And they just chip away, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Jake Bowers, good at bat.
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  Speaker 3: Double.
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  Speaker 1: Puts it within two. They just chip away. And then
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  Speaker 1: Gary Mitchell eventually hits the home run off a lefty
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  Speaker 1: back-to-back days. I think he has, what, a couple home runs,
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  Speaker 1: a handful of home runs off lefties in his career.
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  Speaker 1: He hits back-to-back nights with home runs. So just a
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  Speaker 1: complete series. Guys playing really well all around. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what more can you say about this? The Brewers were
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  Speaker 1: the better team. Pat Murphy, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: Pat Murphy had a bullpen game, basically, opening with an opener,
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  Speaker 2: and then going to May, and then the bullpen from there,
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  Speaker 2: and it would have been so easy to punt on
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  Speaker 2: that game with a 3-0 lead, right? Or, like, kind
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  Speaker 2: of bring in, you know, not that Sensatella isn't a dude,
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  Speaker 2: but he's one of their other dudes, and the fact...
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  Speaker 2: They started chipping away, and then he brings in JoJo,
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  Speaker 2: who was nasty, and then Ashby.
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  Speaker 3: Ashby's stuff is filthy, dude.
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  Speaker 2: I know we've known that, and I remember him as
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  Speaker 2: a starter when I was managing, and you're like, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't throw as many strikes as he does now, but dang, man,
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  Speaker 2: are they freaking good. Shout out to Tyler Glass now,
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  Speaker 2: started off on fire, threw really well, three perfect innings,
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  Speaker 2: and then got in a little trouble there in the fourth,
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  Speaker 2: and Jake Bowers, obviously with that big double, but I
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  Speaker 2: thought he had nasty stuff tonight too.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, we talked about yesterday our ball bag question of
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  Speaker 1: the day was about players who we've played with that
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  Speaker 1: we don't think fully hit that potential. And I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking about today watching Tyler Glass now. I want to
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  Speaker 1: see him healthy. His mound presence, bro, he might be
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  Speaker 1: the biggest mound presence there. He's a big guy. That presence,
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  Speaker 1: his stuff, it's coming at you. It's a lot of levers.
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  Speaker 1: He's 6'8, got the hair. I want to see him
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  Speaker 1: healthy for four or five years and just see the
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  Speaker 1: dominant run that he can go on because he's one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys, man, when he's on the mound, it's
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  Speaker 1: must-watch television.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. What now for the Dodgers? The Brewers were going
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  Speaker 2: to give you so much love all the way through
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  Speaker 2: this whole thing, and congratulations, as you said, to all
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  Speaker 2: the people up in Milwaukee and all the Brewers fans
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  Speaker 2: around the country.
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  Speaker 3: But what about the Dodgers?
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  Speaker 2: Like, do you think like it looked like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about this a little bit and you try
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  Speaker 2: to listen to one of the greatest Derek Jeter talk
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  Speaker 2: about that third championship being so hard and how tired
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  Speaker 2: you are in that grind. You know, do you think
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  Speaker 2: some of that had to have set in for them?
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  Speaker 2: Cause they, they, I don't know that they looked old.
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  Speaker 2: Like I think everybody will start saying, calling the old card.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you got Freddie Freeman.
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  Speaker 3: He's 36 months. He's 35. It's now 33.
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  Speaker 2: Mookie Betts is 33. You know, it started to show
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  Speaker 2: how he started. Like, it's not time to call them old,
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  Speaker 2: is it?
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  Speaker 1: No, they're experienced. That's what they are. Bro, we have
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  Speaker 1: never seen in the social media era until the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: did it, a back-to-back World Series champion. And I say
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  Speaker 1: the social media era because from my own experience, when
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  Speaker 1: we won in 2016, guys got famous really fast. Like,
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  Speaker 1: really fast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Because of social media and
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  Speaker 1: because you're getting pulled in a thousand different directions, you're
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  Speaker 1: all over, it kind of inflates everyone's head, whether you
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  Speaker 1: can admit it or not. So I was always a
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  Speaker 1: big believer it's going to be really hard to see
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  Speaker 1: back-to-back champs with the social media era because of that, right?
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  Speaker 1: You just get pulled in so many different directions, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. So the fact that the Dodgers went back-to-back,
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  Speaker 1: And they were in a position to go to the
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  Speaker 1: World Series again. Obviously, them getting swept. But this is,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what they've done the last decade and a half,
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  Speaker 1: 15 years, honestly. Their run that they've been on. Dave Roberts,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that whole organization. They are a gold standard
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  Speaker 1: organization before they started signing everyone. Yeah, they already are.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: No, do I think that this dynasty is over? No,
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  Speaker 1: I think they'll be right back next year. They'll probably be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the top of the favorites to win the
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  Speaker 1: World Series because they're going to reload with– they'll probably
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  Speaker 1: re-sign Scooble now because they're pissed off that they didn't win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. This team– but, again,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you just go back to how much it
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  Speaker 1: takes to win, Rossi.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We know how much it takes to win. And that
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  Speaker 1: mental grind, that mental fortitude, like it takes every ounce
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  Speaker 1: of your being. And what the Milwaukee Brewers are doing
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  Speaker 1: right now and everything they're saying, that's it. That's the winning.
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  Speaker 1: They're saying everything. And it seems genuine. It seems like, look,
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  Speaker 1: it's everyone on this team. Yelich after the game, which
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  Speaker 1: congratulations to Christian Yelich. He's grinded on the Brewers for
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  Speaker 1: nine years. He was at the Marlins before that. He's
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  Speaker 1: the captain saying, you know, We came together before the
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  Speaker 1: postseason and said, look, we have to play our brand
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  Speaker 1: of baseball. We have to have each other's backs. We
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  Speaker 1: have to do things our way. We don't need to
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  Speaker 1: do anything else except be ourselves. And they did that,
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  Speaker 1: and it showed.
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  Speaker 3: It's so hard to win. I'm glad you said that.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got three teams still playing baseball this year
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  Speaker 2: with some low salaries.
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  Speaker 3: Like, they don't even add up.
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  Speaker 2: Combined, all three of these teams don't add up to
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  Speaker 2: what the Dodgers are spending like What a wild turn
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  Speaker 2: of events of all the talk that kind of led
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  Speaker 2: up through this, you know, season and during the season and.
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  Speaker 3: All this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And now, like, the best baseball teams are still playing baseball,
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  Speaker 2: one in the World Series and two that have a
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  Speaker 2: chance to get there.
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  Speaker 3: But what a crazy, crazy time.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, Rossi. Everything
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  Speaker 1: in baseball is market timing, right? If you're a free
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  Speaker 1: agent and you have a big... If you're about to
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  Speaker 1: be an impending free agent and you have a massive year,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to get paid, right? If you're an impending
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: free agent and you have a down year, you might
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  Speaker 1: have to take a lesser contract to reset your value,
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: maybe with a couple of opt-outs, right? Going into arbitration, it's,
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  Speaker 1: what have you done for me lately? Well, going into
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  Speaker 1: this CBA, Rossi, the owners really are.
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  Speaker 1: Market timing is not on their side now. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, bro, Cleveland... is 30th in payroll, last.
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  Speaker 1: The Rays are 28th in payroll. And the Brewers, if
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  Speaker 1: it really, if you take Christian Yelich out of there, like,
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  Speaker 1: where are they at? They're bottom tier, too. What are they,
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  Speaker 1: 19th in payroll? They're probably down to, like, the 25th
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  Speaker 1: without Christian Yelich is big contract. So, the market timing
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  Speaker 1: on all of this for them, and And on top
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  Speaker 1: of that, the league and the networks, now that I'm
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  Speaker 1: a network television analyst, they don't want this World Series.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing for the game. The game is as competitive
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  Speaker 1: as it can be. But you're telling me you want
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers and the Rays or the Guardians in the
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  Speaker 1: World Series over the Dodgers and another big market team?
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  Speaker 1: So we want to come up with this salary cap
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  Speaker 1: that they're talking about and all this stuff? It's just
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  Speaker 1: going to be an absolute... come this offseason with the
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  Speaker 1: lockout impending.
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  Speaker 2: I love where your head's at, bro. I love where
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  Speaker 2: your head's at. And one more shout-out, Pat Murphy, what
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  Speaker 2: he's done with the Milwaukee Brewers and that group, man.
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  Speaker 2: It just feels like he pulls every lever possible in
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  Speaker 2: every right moment. You know, sticking with, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't have to use McGill, kind of an ace in
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  Speaker 2: the hole there in case it goes extras or have
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  Speaker 2: him fresh for tomorrow. So congratulations to him. That organization,
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  Speaker 2: They're doing it right over there, man. They've been good
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  Speaker 2: for a really long time, and I love that they're
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  Speaker 2: finally right at the tippy top of the mountain. Just
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  Speaker 2: got to get that last four wins.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's almost like, and we're going to get on.
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  Speaker 1: Did I just say tippy top? The tippy top of
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  Speaker 1: the mountain. Yeah, you're nervous, probably.
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  Speaker 3: What is that?
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get to the Raising Guardians here, but
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  Speaker 1: the Guardians are up on a race 2-1, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And for the Brewers now, right, It's like, okay, they
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  Speaker 1: just slayed the giant. Don't exhale. You know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did the Rays exhale by sweeping the Yankees?
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  Speaker 3: That's what I was talking about yesterday, though, is, like,
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  Speaker 3: you don't want too many days off.
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  Speaker 2: You know? Like, you're fixing to have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: days off, and I think this Cleveland series is going
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  Speaker 2: to go back and forth. Cleveland has been impressive, but
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  Speaker 2: you know what we forgot? We almost forgot our playa,
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  Speaker 2: our playa of the week.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking brew crew.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we got to get, I'm saying, we're not moving
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  Speaker 1: on without shouting out Jake Bowers and everything he was
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  Speaker 1: to this team and this series and even this year.
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  Speaker 1: And he is our Corona player, player of the week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what an absolute stud. I mean, the at-bat, he
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  Speaker 2: had multiple at-bats, the big double.
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  Speaker 3: This guy.
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  Speaker 1: 11-pitch at-bat. 11-pitch at-bat.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, lefties.
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  Speaker 1: Game one, good game.
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  Speaker 3: Every game.
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  Speaker 1: Every game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you get up now, and it's just such
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  Speaker 3: a presence.
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  Speaker 2: He comes in the game or gets his at-bat and
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  Speaker 2: gets up there, and you're just looking for something good
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  Speaker 2: to happen when you're a fan. You know what it's
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  Speaker 2: like when you're catching that guy or playing against that
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  Speaker 2: guy that was locked in.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, just don't let this guy beat us again.
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  Speaker 3: One night, for a couple days, it was Contreras.
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  Speaker 2: You know, then it's like, oh, Terrain's starting to get
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  Speaker 2: locked in and Churio and like, okay.
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  Speaker 3: And it just keeps going down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Mitchell.
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  Speaker 2: And then now freaking Jake Bowers just absolutely destroyed these
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  Speaker 2: last three games. And congratulations to him for Corona Playa
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  Speaker 2: of the week.
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  Speaker 1: That's our Corona Playa. You know who, again, last night
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  Speaker 1: I was watching and the Brewers started giving me flashbacks
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  Speaker 1: to playing them and how well they were defensively. And
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  Speaker 1: then today when I, tonight when I saw, Garrett Mitchell
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  Speaker 1: hit that home run, I was like, ooh, that kind
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  Speaker 1: of looked like Daniel Murphy a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, no! Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: Can't get him out of my head.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man. That guy was in a tree.
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  Speaker 2: He's always a good hitter, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: it just clicked for him late in September, and he
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  Speaker 2: started hitting for power.
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  Speaker 3: He absolutely just destroyed us.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that, and I know I just touched on this,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you want to stay away from this,
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  Speaker 1: but The fact that these payrolls are in it and
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  Speaker 1: these smaller markets are in the World Series is such
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  Speaker 1: a testament to how competitively balanced our game is right now, right?
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're the Dodgers or the Mets.
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  Speaker 1: Mets didn't even make the playoffs, and it's not a
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  Speaker 1: stray at the Mets. Yankees got bounced in the first round.
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  Speaker 1: Phillies got bounced in the first round. Toronto didn't make
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs. These are all the top teams. The Cubs
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  Speaker 1: bounced in two games, right? And then you have these
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  Speaker 1: bottom market teams that are down. Competing with the so-called giants, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So our game is in such a good spot competitively
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  Speaker 1: that an extended lockout or missing an extended amount of time,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you're just going to lose so much
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  Speaker 1: momentum of everything we've built here in this game the
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  Speaker 1: last five to even eight, ten years. So that's my
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  Speaker 1: last little thing on that.
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  Speaker 3: Well said.
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  Speaker 1: Again, congratulations to the Milwaukee Brewers, all the fans up there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know how.
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  Speaker 2: That place is going to be rocking.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for that team. I'm excited for Pat Murphy.
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  Speaker 1: Just a lot of respect. Daniel Vogelbach is one of
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  Speaker 1: their hitting coaches. I know what he brings to the
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  Speaker 1: table as a human being. Easy to root for Christian Yelich. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: hated playing against them when I was with the Cubs, but.
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  Speaker 2: Congrats, Charlie Green. He was around here. He's their bullpen coach.
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  Speaker 2: We were on a team together in the minor leagues.
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  Speaker 2: He's the Brewers bullpen coach, and he lived here in
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  Speaker 2: Tallahassee for a long time. He's since moved, but shout
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  Speaker 2: out to Charlie. Congratulations, brother. There's something about the warm
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: summer air and a cold corona with lime that makes
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  Speaker 2: the roar of the crowd sound a lot like the
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  Speaker 2: roar of the waves.
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  Speaker 4: That's because this is our playa, and the best seats
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  Speaker 4: are always wherever you're sitting.
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• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Rossi, Guardians beating the Rays 3-2 to take a 2-1
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: series lead in Cleveland. Petey Halpin hits a majestic just
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: over the wall.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: What a bad flip. What a bad flip.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Two-run homer in the bottom of the fifth. Utility man
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: making his hitting eighth, right? Has four home runs in
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: his career. Only has 200 plate appearances. Stephen Vogt said
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: after the game he's really become a leader in that clubhouse.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Guys gravitate towards him, which is awesome to hear. So
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: what a big moment for him. But Gavin Williams shoved
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: five innings, pulled out their 70 pitches. They were just
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: being cautious with him. That's what I guess Vogt said.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Most strikeouts in the first five career postseason starts of
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: all time. This lists Sandy Kovacs, Bob Gibson, Gavin Williams.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: That's pretty good. It's a pretty good company in there, Mr.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Williams. They just started getting on those lists when they
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: started throwing out all these Hall of Famers. That was,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, his stuff, we've talked about how nasty his
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: stuff is.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I just love why he attacks.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: The zone and that sweeper, man, it just feels like
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: it disappears under those lefties, bats in the righties. It
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: never stays in the zone for those guys to hit it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It's just, I mean, he's coming right at you. I
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: tell my mound presence, he's a big man.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, bro, I mean, look, Cleveland was rocking. We
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: played there. Travis Kelsey's tweet, or On his Instagram story,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: shouting out Petey for that big home run. They're up 2-1, bro,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: on the Rays. Best team in the American League. Rays
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: sweep the Yankees, right? They're, like I said, did they
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: exhale a little bit? I don't think they did. This
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: is going to be a good fought series, but you
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: would think that the Rays would come in here just
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: rolling like they were. But, bro, Caminero, 2-11 in this series. Aranda,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: 0-10 in this series. Yandy Diaz, 3-13. Like their, their
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: horses aren't. Yeah.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I was, yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: The horses aren't carrying you.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: And we talked about, you know, what, uh, Caminero needed
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: to do and kind of carry that, that team a
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: little bit, the bottom of their lineup's not made for,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: you know, slugging and, you know, they're, they're kind of
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: built a little bit differently. The top of their lineup
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: has to go, when they're at their best. They're having
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of success, but it kind of shocked me
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit that Griffin Jacks started the game rather
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: than Nick Martinez. Just kind of like a side note,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I had Griff in the bullpen with me for Team USA,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and he's probably not the horse yet that he can be,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: but he's been dominant out of the bullpen. I thought
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: he might be a swing guy in some aspect, but
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: starting Nick Martinez, But Griff threw okay.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I thought he threw well.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And then had to go to that bullpen game and
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the big home run from Halpin.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I think that no matter how good your team looks
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: on paper, no matter how good your starting pitching is,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: no matter if you have an insane offense, it all
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: comes down to the bullpen. And I remember when I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: was playing, I understood that, and I always talked and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: massaged the bullpen guys. Like, hey, how we doing? Like, hey,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: during the year.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Well, that's why you get mad at me.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I get mad at me when I tell you. I
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: was like, no, they're taking this dude out.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: There's no way.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Well, because you managers abuse the bullpen. They're your mules. Like,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I used to tell the guys all the time on
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the plane when we were flying, hey, man, go in there.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: They can't do it. Go in there and tell them
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you need a couple days off. Cause if you don't
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: do it, no one's going to stand up for you.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I can go in there and tell them, but no one's,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you need to tell them you're too valuable to us
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to win the last game of the season. And that's
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: what our expectations were.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Right. And that's why they're wired. They're wired like that.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: And I used to say all the time, like it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the most underappreciated, but one of the, probably the most
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: important part of your team. And they do get, they
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: do get worn out. And those guys are bulldogs down there.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Cause they'll, they'll throw no matter what. That's the mentality
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: of why they're down there is they don't care if
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: they have to feel a hundred percent. They, they can
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: go out and get guys out, but you're absolutely right.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I think one of the, when I look back on
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: managing and we kind of, we kind of fell apart
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: at the back end of my last year and missed
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the playoffs by one game. But like some of the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: stuff I look back on is like, I should have
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: trusted in young guys a little more. I leaned on
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the veterans, the guys that got me there and I
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: just warm out, you know, like that's, that's real good
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: lesson that I learned from managing and getting through the
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: one 62 length of a season and how to best
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: take care of those guys. That's something like now when
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I watch games, I go, man, I probably should have
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: leaned on some young guys a little bit. One, they
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: have to develop and they got to figure out even
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that I, you know, some of the stuff that I
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: was biased to was like guys that didn't throw strikes, right?
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Young guys had nasty stuff. Didn't throw strikes. Like look
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: at all the guys that don't really command the baseball
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: in the world series, but their shit's nasty. And so
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: right down the middle, gets guys out. So yeah, it's,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: it's an important piece and they they're underappreciated for sure.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: When you're in that driver's seat and you're expected to win,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you're expected to make the playoffs. Why aren't you going
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to your best guys? We get it as players. You
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you're going to ride your
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: best guys. Like that's what you're going to do.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Right. So it's like the kicker, the kicker, the kicker
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't get noticed until he misses the field goal.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: A bullpen guy.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: They're so important to you winning.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It's, And I know in the postseason you can start
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: throwing starters in the back end, right, and it gets
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: all messed up. But it's just the bullpen– I cannot
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: stress this enough for every team that wants to win
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the last game of the World Series. You need to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: have the bullpen to do it. Like, your pitching and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: defense is great, but that back end of the bullpen
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: has been lights out. And it's been the theme all series– or,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, all postseason, all these bullpens. Every team has
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: had the best bullpen, right?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Well, I think that's why you saw a
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: lot of the experts not picking the Cubs to go
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: deep in the postseason, and that's not the reason, obviously.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, is how it turned out, but that was
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a big reason why they didn't think because they were
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: going to have to kind of piece it together with
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: some guys that had struggled a little bit.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: But you're right. It's so important.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And the stuff these guys are coming out with, like
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: talking about Cleveland.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: They're making shit up. Yeah, K.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Smith.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Like, he's coming in just looking like it's a walk
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: in the park.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Far out save.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like it's no big deal. These guys piecing
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: it together so good. These managers pulling all the right strings.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like I watch these games. These
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: managers know their team and their guys so well, obviously,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: at this point. But they know how these guys tick.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: They don't wait around for them to kind of have
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a crappy inning. Like, they're on top of them, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: they know their roles, and they might get extended, and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: every guy seems to be on board. With it just
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: out there competing, I just thought that's really stood out
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: to me this postseason.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in a best-of-seven series, which I don't look
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: into these numbers at all, but we have them in
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: front of us, the team to win game three when
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: it's tie 1-1 goes to win the series 70% of
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the time. Ooh. So the Guardians are at home for
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the next two, right? Rossi, I'm teeing you up. Once again,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: who do we got in game four?
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I think the Guardians.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I think the Guardians ride the momentum.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: You're like that win probability thing ESPN used to have
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: on the screen. I'm like, screw win probability. Like, this
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: shit's still got to happen. But the Rays, this is
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: a tight one. Rays are 51% to the yes, 100
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: will get you 190. Guardians are 50% to the yes,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and 100 will get you 195.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Man, the.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Guardians just continue to, I know I pick, I hate
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: picking against my ultimate pick, and this is just one game,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: but I got to go with Cleveland. It feels like
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: they're hitting on all cylinders right now. The grass, the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Rays play better at home. What's their style? It just
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: looks like they were in control today. With a quick turnaround,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: one game tomorrow, they're going to be back feeling good.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez, it's hard to bet against that guy. He's
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: so damn good.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Bro, so good. There's rain in the forecast, which Maybe
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: this is like a reverse thing for them, right? They
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: beat the White Sox when it was raining. They moved
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the game up because it was raining. Maybe this is
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: like a reverse thing for the Guardians, and we're going
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to see the Guardians in the World Series. Who knows?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Who knows if we see them again? I obviously have
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a very soft spot for the city of Cleveland in
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: my heart, right? Greatest World Series of all time.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Bro, one more stat.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I'm throwing a stat geek out here, but like, Guardians bullpen,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: one hit in four innings. We talked about the bullpens,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: but just dominant.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Absolutely dominant.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Just looking at all these stats we got hooked up with.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Man, we've had some good baseball. We've had some good baseball.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I'm glad.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Game four tomorrow, Guardians raise. Let's get to our daily
• 26:42
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• 26:46
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• 26:49
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• 26:55
  Speaker 1: email us at rossandrizzo at gmail.com. This is by far
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: our favorite segment of our show. First email is from
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: James Blumenthal. Can you describe, you know what, we got
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a request in here, Chris, if we can get where
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: they're from too, like where James is from or our
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: questions are from. Anyways, James Blumenthal, can you describe what
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: it was like playing for Mr. Madden? Oh, coach. And
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: his use of all different types of intelligence compared to
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: managers today who seem like middle management.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, good question, James.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Joe had a unique ability.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, Joe was the analytic guy before everybody was
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: talking about analytics.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Like he had that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Outside-the-box reputation in Tampa Bay. And he was the one,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of, you know, created the kind of
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: super utility guy in Ben Zobrist and a lot of
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the shifts and the things that kind of made sense
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: to him.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: But he's an old-school guy.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: If you talk to him, he'll tell you he's kind
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: of a traditionalist at heart. And I think he goes
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: with his experience. He once told me, giving me some
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: managing advice, he's like, don't run from your gut everybody
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: says you know trust the numbers but your gut is
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: just experience talking to you and you know um kind
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: of through your career and the things you've dealt with
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: like what what moves to make and and who to
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: trust in and whether there's numbers of the players and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: stuff like that so he's a traditionalist and i think
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: he trusts in the numbers but he he's going to
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: go with his gut when it comes to making a
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: final decision if it makes sense.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Well well rossi you were a manager Game of Blackjack.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see my shirt. Are
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you hitting on 16? Do you hit on 16?
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I'm hitting on 16.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going with it. Every time, really?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Not every time.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: No, not every time. Not every time.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: When I've got a lot of money out there, I
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: want to see it play out because I'm tight with
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: my money.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Well, when you're down. When you're down. When you're down.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Just leave it.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Just leave it. Let them bust.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's probably some people going to blast me for that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: James, I love playing for Joe, what he brought to
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: a young team. Even as I was older, I loved
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: playing for him. He always talked to me all the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: time if I was struggling. Well, there was one time
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: we were in Atlanta one year, and he pulled me
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: in his office. It had to be late April, early May.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And I was struggling. He's like, how are you doing, brother?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm great. He goes, we need you. Like,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you're going to be, you're the reason why we go.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: You're the biggest part of this team. Like, you're going
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to get going. Trust me. Like, I promise you, you're
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: going to get going. He always used to talk me
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: hitting too, and I loved it, right? and he's like
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I promise you I'm gonna write down your numbers and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna be at the end of
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the year I'm gonna put them away and sure enough
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that year I ended up driving in 100 hitting 30
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and like just that vote of confidence that he gives
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you not only for me but you go ask Javi
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Baez right like Javi's like Javi go be you right
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: like Don't try to be anyone else. Be Javi. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I love that about him. And the biggest compliment I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: give to Joe was how he let his staff coach.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Like Davey Martinez, as our bench coach, was the GOAT, right?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Joe was able to do everything he needed to do
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: with the media and handle all of the BS that
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: comes with being a manager, as you know, Rossi. And
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: then Davey Martinez, the bench coach, in my opinion, the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: bench coach is the most important person of all staffs
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: because they can put out all the fires. So, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: then just the rest of his staff, he let them coach.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: He let them, and if he ever had anything to say,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: he did it together and he never crossed anyone up.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I just, I loved everything about him, obviously.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's awesome.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: A really good manager.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Some of the moves he made, like that Seattle game,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: moving pitchers in and out, like this guy's a wizard
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: when it comes to back when you had to double
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: switch and all that stuff.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Moving pieces around.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Uh, next email is from Jason on the show that
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: was posted Thursday. Rizzo said, if the league does go
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: with 154 game season, there should be some incentives to
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: keep starting pitching in the game longer.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Could you elaborate?
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Why does there need to be an incentive?
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Great show.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Uh, Jason, the great show. Uh, first time question,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: long time listener, Jason. Thank you. Um, Because I think
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: if you're going to go once a week, you give
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the pitchers– pitchers are now going on pretty much a
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: six-day rest instead of pitching on the fifth day. They're
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: pitching on the sixth day. One pitcher a week will
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: have to go on a five-day. So I just think
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that for– I think the league wants more offense, right, to–
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: And it'll incentivize pitchers not to just throw a billion
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: miles an hour. They have to go deep in games.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: It's more of a strategy. I think it'll be more
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: of a complete game if pitchers have to go five
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: or six innings or you lose the DH. That's just
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: my opinion. I like starting pitching. You go to the ballpark.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: You think that lesser games and off day will be
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: more like these games in the postseason where your guys
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: are coming out at 70, 80 pitches and they're going
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: with a bullpen because the bullpen's more rested. And you'll
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: get those games.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: And you don't like that style, and you'd rather the
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: starters go deep.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Well, you just, as a fan, you go to the ballpark,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and I want to see Tyler Glass now pitch seven innings. Yeah.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I want to see Jon
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Lester throw seven innings. I don't want to go to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the ballpark and Shohei Otani throws four innings or three innings,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: and he's out of the game. Like, you're pumped when
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you get a big– you're pumped when Jacob Mizorowski's going against–
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Tarek Scouble in game one. And then they're both out
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: in the third inning.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Like, what?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: That's not what I paid for. And then, like, look,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: as much as I love the bullpen, the bullpen is
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the offense alignment of a team. They, like, no one
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: really knows who they are, like you said, the kicker,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: until it's time to know who they are. Now everyone knows.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Now everyone knows who Abner Uribe is, right? Everyone knows
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Ashby now. But during the regular season, these guys just
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: come in, they grind, they put their hard hats on,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: they do their job. So, yeah, I just think it
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: would be a better product. And then picking teams, like
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: picking your poison is crazy. Best team plays the worst team,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and you just seed it that way.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: All right, thanks, Jason.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: That's our first question from a listener that asked about
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a previous show, too. Yes. That was nice. That was nice.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Email from Rowan Campbell. Hello, Ross and Rizzo. Hello, Rowan.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Hello, Rowan.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Hello, Governor. I really enjoy your podcast. What was it
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: like playing against one of the all-time greats, Jose Ramirez?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got my favorite story about Jose Ramirez, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: he was just a, I think he was a rookie
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: in 16 when he was in the World Series. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I remember the game one, catching Lester, I went so
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: scouting report heavy that by like the second, third time
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: through the order, like we were trying to throw in
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: a Dixie Cup down our way. We're doing more sinkers.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: And John's strength is like four seamers in, cutters off
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: that to righties. And it gets him locked in to
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: all those other pitches, breaking ball underneath. And before game five,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: we went over the scouting report, and I said, hey, bro,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: we just got to pound all these guys. We're going
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: to set you up first. So we're calling, and he
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: strikes out the side in the first inning. and he's
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: just throwing BBs down there.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Juices are flowing. We're at Wrigley. It's loud. And then
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: we did it again.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: All first pitches were four-seamers in. The next inning, I
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: can't remember if we got the first guy out, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I think Jose Ramirez, he was the second or third batter.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: We had gotten everybody out to that point, and I
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: went first one in, and nobody still hadn't swung at
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that heater end.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know what?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Screw it. Like, I'm going to be stubborn. Let's go
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: four-seam run again. And he hit it to the moon, bro. Like,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: four-seam run, he was 96, just absolute tank. I was like, well, okay,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: we've got him committed to Inman now. We better start
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: mixing up the pitches.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: At least you got him committed.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: It was a good pitch, too, and he knocked the
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: shit out of it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Rowan, he was– I mean, he's one of
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: those guys that you just respect. He doesn't get the
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: attention and– There's, like, notoriety he deserves, in my opinion,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: because maybe he's hidden in Cleveland. But in the baseball world, bro,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: everyone knows that lineup, if you're game-planning against that lineup,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: it's him that you're game-planning against, right? Do not let
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: him beat you. Every game is do not let Jose
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: beat you. So good story I have with him. One year,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: it had to be 2021 because Nico loves this story.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Nico Horner loves this story. We were playing, and Nico's
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: playing second. I was holding the runner on at first,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and Jose Ramirez, Rat Wrigley, he yells at me. He goes, hey,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Anthony Rizzo. You ever see that clip of Freddie Freeman
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: when he's.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Like, hey, Freddie Freeman? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: He did that to me. He's like, hey, Rizzo.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Anthony Rizzo.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: He's like, gold glove?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Platinum glove?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah. He goes, and he just gives
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: me the thumbs up.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Niko saw the whole thing go down. The whole thing
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: from second base. And he's dying, so. We, Nico and
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: I joke about that still to this day. So it's just, again,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: it's like guys like that who clearly plays.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: The game the right way and looks like he enjoys
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the game. You don't really ever hear any bad things
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: about him. So yeah. Yeah.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like he sets the tone for that group too, man.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Like the way he plays, I think their assistant GM
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: or somebody, their GM was on a intentional talk today
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: and he was talking about, just like how do you
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: get guys one through nine to play hard and with
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: a certain edge and a certain standard there.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: And he said, when you have your superstar, who's a future.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Hall of famer playing like that every single day, not
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: running his mouth, not showboating, he's out there just trying
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: to win baseball games with his glove, with his bat,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: with his legs, um, with his mentality. And, and like,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I thought that it couldn't have been a bigger compliment
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: that you could get as a player, especially a caliber
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: of his is, is something like that come from, from
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: your peers. So, Obviously, he's a stud, and he's having
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a great postseason. He's gotten hot at the right time, and.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Here they go. Here goes Cleveland.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Here goes Cleveland.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Here goes Cleveland.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: We have a Milwaukee Brewers versus Guardians or Rays World Series.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: We will have a new champion. Could end a drought
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: for the Guardians slash Indians. Could be a first for
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the Rays and Brewers.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Slash Indians.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: We are in for hopefully this series goes the distance
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: just for baseball, right? Hopefully the Guardians of the Rays
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: go seven at the Trop. There's a dramatic game there
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: in the ninth to send their team to the World Series,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: whoever does it. On this side now, it's just how
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: can you not root for good games and fans of players?
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Same.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I keep thinking that when I'm watching games. I'm like
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: rooting for both sides and want to give love to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: both sides. And it's just fun to be in kind
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: of doing the podcast stuff with you. It's just fun
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to talk up when guys have awesome moments. So Joe
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Davis said, I think it was, no, who was it?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Somebody doing the TBS broadcast. I'm blanking on his name,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: but he said, you know, so-and-so got a big hit.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: He was like, meets the moment, you know, and when
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: you meet the moment and you have those big hits
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: in your, your post-season career, it just is like, it's history.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: It's like legendary.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Every kid, parent watching that remembers that. I get more
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: people coming up and mentioning my game seven home run.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: That was like the last memory for me. It was
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: about the block I missed and the two runs scoring
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: and like, you know, like just dumb little stuff that
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I remember and other people just remember those moments that
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: you give them. And there's been so many this post-season.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I hope we get a lot more.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally, this is what it's all about as
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a baseball player. And as a little kid dreaming, it
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: looks like there's little kids playing right now and they're
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: having fun. So just an amazing product on the field. Rossi,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Brewers want this Guardians Race Series to go seven, right?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: They just want them to beat up on it. each
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: other and just get absolutely mentally tore up or not
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I thought that.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: About Cleveland in the White Sox series, but they just
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: carried that momentum. There's something about, and you know how
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: this is, during a regular season and you're on a roll,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you won nine of 10 or nine in a row
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: or whatever it is, And you've got.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: An off day.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: That's the last time you want an off day. But
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: if you've lost six in a row, an off day
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: can't come fast enough. I think it's just one of
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: those who can continue to stay sharp. Brewers are going
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: to have to lock in and stay sharp. By winning
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the division, they didn't seem like they had any rust
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: on them at all in the division series. I think
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: you do want that. You want all the pitchers to
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: be tired when you get to them, but there's also
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: that that sense of like we can overcome anything fight
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that that gives you going on to the world series.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: If you go to game seven and you know, I
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: think about that, the last inning in game four against
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: San Francisco, when we came back and scored all those
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: runs like that, that those moments are just create relentlessness
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and never give up in you. And all these teams
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: have that, but it just, it gives you that momentum.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: And I think it's so powerful this time of year.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I, Usually I would say yes to
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the seven games here if I was the team waiting.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: But I think that it would be better for the.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Brewers if.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: The Guardians won in five games. Because then the Guardians
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: get time to think, right? And it's like I could
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: see two ways, right? Right now the Guardians are like
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: this team is on a run right now, right?
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: They're up 2-1 against the Rays. They're a really good team.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're not getting the credit due to them. But
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: if they win in five and then they have three,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: four days off in between that game and the World Series,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: maybe they start thinking a little bit. And then on
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the flip side, it's like this team is not built
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: on starting pitching. They have studs. Don't get me wrong.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Messick and Williams are studs. But their bullpen is going
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: to take a lot of taxing. in this seven-game series
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: if this goes seven, right? They were crushed in the
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: five-game series. Then they would go seven games into another
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: seven games. So if I'm the Brewers, it's like, it
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Let's just play baseball. We're on a World Series.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Let's just put our best foot forward.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: And let's just stay sharp.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Good show.
• 42:01
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• 42:05
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• 42:25
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• 42:25
  Speaker 3: I got a quick story.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Hold on. Wait, wait, wait.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Before we peace out, Harper's reading my book.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: She's reading Teammate for her.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: That's his daughter. That's my daughter. Sorry, my little mate.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: She's 11. And she asked me today, she goes, Dad,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: did Mr. Rizzo really, was he really naked in the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: locker room and doing the Rocky stuff?
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: That's what my 11-year-old asked me today. She's got it all.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: And she said, hey, oh, and Dad, I learned the
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: origin of the cock bump, just.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: So you know. I was like, oh, my God.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Anyways, I had to end with that story.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Ross Rizzo, out.