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Best of full interview: Kehlani Talks New Music, AI 'Artists', Strategic Activism, Motherhood + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day, A way up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Morning.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's d J n V. Just hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club law La
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  Speaker 2: roses here as well. We got a special guest.
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  Speaker 1: In the building.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed number one record. The record is flying on the
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  Speaker 2: Chelsea Player what every hour on the hour.
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  Speaker 3: Damn there one of my wife's favorite record.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, ladies and gentlemen, Kalani welcome.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, hey guys.
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  Speaker 2: Are I'm really good?
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  Speaker 3: Are you blessed? Black? How's your energy?
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  Speaker 4: It's good? Can can I tell you guys something before
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  Speaker 4: we started?
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  Speaker 5: Of course, it's very important that during this hour of
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  Speaker 5: my life, I let everyone know that my name is
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  Speaker 5: pronounced Klanni.
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  Speaker 4: Otherwise, you guys always.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, I'm really good.
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  Speaker 6: It might be like a stupid question, but like, why
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  Speaker 6: this right right now? Why haven't you been correcting people?
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  Speaker 4: You know what? I feel like I have here and there?
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  Speaker 5: But then like it just blows under, like nobody cares.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody just says how they want to say. It's not
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  Speaker 5: that big of a deal. I have family members who say,
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  Speaker 5: Kilane got you? But do you know, I'm like I'm
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  Speaker 5: thirty now I'm feeling a little like, let's just get
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's been ten years, my name.
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  Speaker 4: Wrong for ten years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we all like to create safe spaces
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  Speaker 3: for ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think you can create a safe space of
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  Speaker 7: people calling you out your wrong name, because I think
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  Speaker 7: if I was doing an interview and somebody said Kilana,
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  Speaker 7: and the whole interview probably thinking I should have corrected them,
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  Speaker 7: I should have corrected it.
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  Speaker 3: I should have corrected.
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  Speaker 5: But no one wants to be that person as like
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  Speaker 5: sour as the moment. It's like, by the way, scratch that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: should you Well here we are now now you guys
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  Speaker 5: know yes, Kaylin.
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  Speaker 2: How does it feel fold the number one? How is
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  Speaker 2: that feeling?
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  Speaker 5: It feels really good. It's been a long time coming.
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  Speaker 5: I've been getting told for the last eight years of
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  Speaker 5: my life. You know, you're always one song away or
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  Speaker 5: one song away or one song away. We see it
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  Speaker 5: for you, and so to have the song and everything
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  Speaker 5: be changing in this way, it's really nice.
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  Speaker 2: You know that was the record. When y'all did it,
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  Speaker 2: did you know that was going to be it?
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  Speaker 5: No, it was the most accidental thing in the world.
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  Speaker 5: Even making it was accidental. Came about accident. I'm in
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  Speaker 5: la I get a call to come finish this feature.
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  Speaker 5: But the guy's like, I'm out to go on this
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  Speaker 5: massive tour, like, so you have to come finish it
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  Speaker 5: with me in person. Bring the producers, Come to Miami,
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  Speaker 5: Bring the producers. We go to Miami and for two
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  Speaker 5: days we just can't figure out this song that we're
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  Speaker 5: supposed to finish, and we don't want we didn't want
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  Speaker 5: to waste the time, so we went to a studio
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  Speaker 5: house with Don Mills, who actually plays a guitar on
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  Speaker 5: the song, and Dre Harris came and the first beat
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  Speaker 5: he played was the folded beat from his boy DK
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  Speaker 5: the Punisher, and I bring it in the other room
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  Speaker 5: and I just keep singing this hook and everybody's like,
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  Speaker 5: that's really cool, Like let's build on it. And we
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  Speaker 5: stayed there for a week. But every single day after,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we made that song, it'd be the one
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  Speaker 5: song from the like the camp that we just kept replaying.
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  Speaker 5: And I hit my label and I was like, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know, like, I know you guys are looking for
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  Speaker 5: what is it.
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  Speaker 4: It's like as a.
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  Speaker 5: Juni or July at this time, I'm not sure I
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  Speaker 5: know you guys are looking for like the club single
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  Speaker 5: the banger. This is not that, Like, this isn't really
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  Speaker 5: song of the Summer, I don't, but this feels like
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  Speaker 5: an introduction to like where my mentally musically, my you know,
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  Speaker 5: maturation in my like my sonic journey.
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  Speaker 4: And let me just tease.
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  Speaker 5: It, like, let me put it out. You guys don't
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  Speaker 5: have to, you know, don't freak out. But it feels
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  Speaker 5: good and it just kind of like took its own
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  Speaker 5: life and there we are.
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  Speaker 7: Takes a lot of emotional intelligence to fold the man's clothes.
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  Speaker 3: And tell him come get him instead of throwing them
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  Speaker 3: all over the lawn.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm definitely not volting a man's clothes.
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  Speaker 4: Oh well, anyone's close.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, But I think it's a very nuanced perspective, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching a lot of people be on this, you know,
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  Speaker 5: really extreme side of it, either like Carolin is way
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  Speaker 5: better than me, You're clothes with being a trash.
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  Speaker 4: Can, or really.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not taking time for.
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  Speaker 5: That, right, or they're like, yeah, I'm folding instantly, I'm
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  Speaker 5: folding clothes and ASKID who cares if they did wrong?
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  Speaker 5: In the song, I verbatim say like I probably should
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  Speaker 5: have asked for space, but I kind of told you
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  Speaker 5: to walk away, which means I probably jumped the gun
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  Speaker 5: and I overreacted, And I need to express to you
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  Speaker 5: that you did hurt me, but also maybe come over
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  Speaker 5: so we can.
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  Speaker 4: Talk about it.
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  Speaker 5: So it's more of like a nuanced, mature conversation existing
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  Speaker 5: that's kind of like both, you did hurt me, but
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  Speaker 5: we also need to speak and I also might have
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  Speaker 5: not you know, handled this the right way.
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  Speaker 4: And let's just get in the same place and get
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  Speaker 4: in each other's face and come talk about it. I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna use your clothes as bait.
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  Speaker 3: I like that.
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  Speaker 7: Like the accountability Yeah no, gohas, but you're choosing vulnerability
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  Speaker 7: over wearing emotional armor.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So what shifted in your real life that allowed that change?
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  Speaker 5: I think something happens when you you know you're turning thirty,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, astrologically, something major happens. You go through a
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  Speaker 5: side and return and outside of that, I just I've
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  Speaker 5: been through a lot in the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 4: I've really spent, you know, making the changes I needed
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  Speaker 4: to make.
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  Speaker 5: I know I saw you guys last time, and we
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  Speaker 5: talked about mental health and all those you know, it's
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  Speaker 5: been a year since then. I think when I came
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  Speaker 5: to you guys last time, I was a week into
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  Speaker 5: being diagnosed. I just started medication. I'm not a year
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  Speaker 5: into like that journey. Very settled in, very in my routine,
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  Speaker 5: very very healthy, and being able to assess myself and
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  Speaker 5: assess my situations and you know, just be on top
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  Speaker 5: of my stuff. Honestly, that allowed me to be able
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  Speaker 5: to come to a place to write from the perspective
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  Speaker 5: I'm able to write from now.
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  Speaker 2: Will you have it on the other side, meaning where
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  Speaker 2: you have the person to throw the clothes in the
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  Speaker 2: bag and then throw the clothes out the window.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been like a twenty five year old girl before. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: for sure.
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  Speaker 6: What has your journey been like since you said the
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  Speaker 6: last time they saw you it was like first week
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  Speaker 6: of Yeah, you know, what has your personal journey been like?
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  Speaker 6: You know, using your medicines now and kind of understanding
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  Speaker 6: you know your body and your mental that what is
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  Speaker 6: that up and down or consistency been like it hasn't
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  Speaker 6: been different for you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, bipolar disorder is a really layered thing that
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  Speaker 5: also because it's so stigmatized in the world, and there's
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  Speaker 5: so many jokes about it that I think people get
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  Speaker 5: really confused, you know, they think, Okay, I woke up
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  Speaker 5: with an attitude and then later on I felt better
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  Speaker 5: than I had an attitude.
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  Speaker 4: Again, so I'm bipolar. It's a way bigger, deeper thing
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  Speaker 4: than that.
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  Speaker 5: And I think medicine and my thing therapy journey gave
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  Speaker 5: me the opportunity to have thought applied to my mood
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  Speaker 5: and thought applied to situations when you know, other like,
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  Speaker 5: in other ways, I wouldn't have had the thought. I
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  Speaker 5: would have just felt it and it would have just left,
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  Speaker 5: and next thing you know, there's episodical things happening, and
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  Speaker 5: next thing you know, I'm just gone with the wind.
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  Speaker 5: But this, I wouldn't say it stops it completely, but
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  Speaker 5: it really allows you to have a process. And I
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  Speaker 5: think that that's been the biggest difference is I have
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  Speaker 5: so much, so much option for process now, and I
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  Speaker 5: can go through these things and take them slowly and
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  Speaker 5: think about them and like have a second roere. I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I have the tools now. I have a
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  Speaker 5: tool belt of things I can apply, Like do I
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  Speaker 5: go this way, do I take a walk, Do I like,
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  Speaker 5: this is not the reaction that I want to This
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  Speaker 5: is not the version of myself that I want to
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  Speaker 5: show up in this situation.
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  Speaker 4: So things like that, I think I would.
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  Speaker 2: Say it's difficult being vulnerable, right for on artist? How
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  Speaker 2: difficult is that because you're showing a side of yourself
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  Speaker 2: that I'm sure you think that maybe people are laugh
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  Speaker 2: But then on the other side, I'm sure as a
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  Speaker 2: side is says there's so many people dealing with it,
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  Speaker 2: and I love the fact artists are doing more. We've
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  Speaker 2: seen it with Gucci, the same thing. So when did
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  Speaker 2: you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it
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  Speaker 2: a hard line to draw to be?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Do I want to be this vulnerable? Do I want
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  Speaker 2: to share this experience?
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  Speaker 5: I think I've always been messally vulnerable, but I grew
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  Speaker 5: up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been
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  Speaker 5: seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen
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  Speaker 5: years old, and I think when you're viewing it on
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  Speaker 5: the outside, it you kind of timestamp people like artists
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  Speaker 5: get timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to
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  Speaker 5: the fan. So there's people who still view me as
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  Speaker 5: something I went through when I was twenty four and like,
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  Speaker 5: that's who they'll see.
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  Speaker 4: Me as forever. And when you're twenty four at that time,
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  Speaker 4: you're also confidently speaking in these interviews because you're like,
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  Speaker 4: this is who I am right now, and I get it.
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  Speaker 4: Then ten years later you're.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, I don't know who that person.
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  Speaker 4: I mean hasn't been ten years for me.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm thirty now and I'm looking back at things
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  Speaker 5: I said when I was twenty four to twenty five,
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  Speaker 5: even twenty seven, and I'm like, yikes, even a year ago,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, like growth, I'm different now.
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  Speaker 7: It's good though, you have the self awareness that that
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  Speaker 7: was supposed to go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know this. This haves to feel good to
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  Speaker 3: you too.
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  Speaker 7: The success of folded because vocally you were one of
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  Speaker 7: the first artists I saw publicly showing support for Palestine,
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  Speaker 7: and I mean you spoke out when a lot of
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  Speaker 7: people weren't. I know, you lost shows because of it,
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  Speaker 7: you were barred from things. How does it feel having
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  Speaker 7: this success and you have it for being on the
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  Speaker 7: right side of history?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it shows that the things that we're
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  Speaker 4: afraid of are more I don't know what the word
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  Speaker 4: is not handleable. That's not a word, but like you.
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  Speaker 5: Know what you mean, Yeah, like we can if we
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  Speaker 5: have the courage to do things. And then so we
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  Speaker 5: see people have success after doing the things that we
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  Speaker 5: deem scary, we might be more courageous to do them.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it's important that other artists see that
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  Speaker 5: I've been able to thrive after all those things happen.
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  Speaker 5: I mean there's still things that I will never be
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  Speaker 5: allowed to do, or things that that are not getting
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  Speaker 5: picked up or even oh yeah, for sure, it probably forever.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think people realize how deep it goes. I
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  Speaker 5: didn't even at the time realize how deep it goes. Also,
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  Speaker 5: to be really frank, I was incredibly manic. So a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the routes that I went, the yelling and
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  Speaker 5: the f all you guys if you guys don't understand,
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  Speaker 5: and da da dad, and you know what, have my
• 9:15
  Speaker 5: team could go if y'all don't speak, just these different
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  Speaker 5: routes versus like, hey, let me calm down and be
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  Speaker 5: strategic about this, because in every single movement, in every
• 9:22
  Speaker 5: single political yeah movement across the board, there's more strategy
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  Speaker 5: involved in the way that you communicated the way that
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  Speaker 5: you choose to organize the things that you engage with,
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  Speaker 5: and at the time I didn't really have those resources
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  Speaker 5: to think in that way. So yeah, there's still there's
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  Speaker 5: still things that I'm experiencing that I probably will experience
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  Speaker 5: for a really long time. But I think this other
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  Speaker 5: side of it is speaking to the fact that when
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  Speaker 5: there's great music, there's great music, and when people love
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  Speaker 5: the music and they love the art, then you can't
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  Speaker 5: really be taken out in that way.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm a stern believe it that you should always
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  Speaker 7: move off strategy over emotion, but you can understand the emotion.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's so understand why I was so much grace
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  Speaker 5: for how I handled it, because I was really just
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  Speaker 5: passionate and upset.
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  Speaker 4: I was angry.
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  Speaker 5: We should have all been angry. It was really terrible
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  Speaker 5: to watch and treacherous to feel some kind of like
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  Speaker 5: a part of because like.
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  Speaker 4: Our country is such a big part of it.
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  Speaker 5: But I definitely wish that I was able to call
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  Speaker 5: myself to be smarter about the way that I went
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  Speaker 5: about it for my own sake and for being a
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  Speaker 5: leader in front of a camera for other people.
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  Speaker 2: And how do you feel when other artists don't speak
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  Speaker 2: about it when they have the opportunity. Do you look,
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  Speaker 2: how does that feel to you? Because you jumped out
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  Speaker 2: the window and yeah, you got banned from things.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it's really easy to say, like I
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  Speaker 5: want to be very clear with my words, like it
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  Speaker 5: is really easy to say that I hate them for
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  Speaker 5: it or I really blame them. But after experiencing everything
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  Speaker 5: I went through, which went way deeper than just being
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  Speaker 5: banned from things that you know, got into my safety,
• 10:53
  Speaker 5: my family, dynamics, my.
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  Speaker 4: Friendships, I had to move.
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  Speaker 5: It put me into a really paranoia every time I
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: left the house of was everybody out to get me?
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  Speaker 5: And did I need security to sit in front of
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  Speaker 5: my house? And was anybody plotting on me? And the
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  Speaker 5: death threats I got it my show was like highly organized, typed.
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  Speaker 4: Out, detailed death threats.
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  Speaker 5: It's easy to say like that shouldn't matter because we
• 11:17
  Speaker 5: should all be, you know, up in arms, and part
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  Speaker 5: of me is like, yeah, we should. But also I
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  Speaker 5: wished there was it wasn't so sinister, like the lashings
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  Speaker 5: behind the scene. I wish it wasn't so sinister, and
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  Speaker 5: I wish it wasn't something to be afraid of I
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  Speaker 5: think if we all spoken numbers and there was so
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: many of us, it wouldn't be so easy to just
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  Speaker 5: come after one person. I think when you leave it
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  Speaker 5: to be one or two people, it's easy to just get.
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  Speaker 4: Them out of here.
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  Speaker 5: We've seen it historically. But if it's a lot of people,
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  Speaker 5: who can they get there's a bunch of us.
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  Speaker 3: Did it make you speak out even more?
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  Speaker 7: Because you did it the Red Carpet on the AMAS,
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  Speaker 7: you voiced support for Palestine, So when you were getting
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  Speaker 7: back lives behind the scenes, you're like, now I'm an
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  Speaker 7: go out there even more.
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  Speaker 5: I just like I was like I'm already here, like
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: I'm already experiencing everything I'm experiencing, and it hasn't stopped,
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: like it hasn't stopped, Like it's still you know, cease
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  Speaker 5: fire and all still hasn't stopped. And if even if
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: you know, the genocide itself does stop, there's a much
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  Speaker 5: larger thing at hand there, which is, you know, ending
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: the apartheid. So I don't know, I don't think it
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  Speaker 5: was ever like an intentional I'm gonna choose to speak.
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  Speaker 5: I was asked a question on the carpet, and I
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  Speaker 5: answered it, and my stance remains the same.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, it's just interesting that you would still be
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  Speaker 7: getting back because even the U and Chief said there
• 12:33
  Speaker 7: are strong reasons to believe that war crimes have been committed.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but we're dealing we're dealing with a very delusional
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  Speaker 5: other side. It's a very delusional side where you have
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: shown videos and you've shown facts and they've seen things,
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  Speaker 5: and the response is literally, that's not even real, Like
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: y'all made this up, you know, like you kind of
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: at some point have to be like, Okay, there's a
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  Speaker 5: game here, and I'm not going to play this game
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  Speaker 5: with you guys, because you know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna play it.
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  Speaker 8: So and you also, I was mitched ice right the comment.
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  Speaker 6: I saw the comments about you know, you speaking out
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  Speaker 6: on the ice and them going into schools and things
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  Speaker 6: and that I know you're a mom as well, but like,
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  Speaker 6: has there have you experienced any similar pushback from the
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  Speaker 6: other side or wherever because of those comments?
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  Speaker 9: No?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, Zionism is a much.
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  Speaker 5: Larger, deeper, darker, sinister thing than good old regular American racism,
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  Speaker 5: even though they're very intertwined and they walk hand in
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  Speaker 5: hand with each other a little bit. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 5: I haven't experienced any pushback from that. I think we're
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  Speaker 5: all more comfortable talking about that in general than you know,
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  Speaker 5: anything else.
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  Speaker 2: So I was gonna ask, you know, we also seen
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: you speak out about AI in the industry, and the
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: crazy part about it is, uh, I agree with you,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: but I think it's crazy for an artist. We had
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: Tank and there they were talking about they think it's
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: a good thing and that you know, artists and the
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: industry needs to adapt to it. I think it kind
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: of hurts the fact of the creativity.
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: I think there's so many layers to it.
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: One we're going to put out there that you know,
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: it's not good for the environment. It's affecting communities everywhere,
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: but especially disparage Black communities in Americas, messing with the waters,
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: messing with the air, like it's going to make people
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: sick in the long run. We move on from that
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: and get into all these aspects of music that are
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: being and jobs.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: Let's forget music, right.
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: I'm speaking to music because I'm being asked about music,
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: you know, but I'm not. I think there's a much
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: larger thing of like all these little jobs that people
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: are employed to do that is keeping their families going,
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: that is literally feeding everyone around them, are just gone
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: and we don't realize we're training, you know, these systems
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: to do those things.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: There's things that I understand.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: I think I was told about how it is working
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: for surgeries, like these robots are helping in surgery precise
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: you know, more precise surgeries. And then there's you know,
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: like the disabled community and being able to get things
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: done in that way. And I've experienced producers and writers
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: be stuck on something and use it to help or
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: like finish something and then get it replayed or get
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: it remade. And like those aren't exactly things that I'm
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: super mad about.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not going to bark at them the same way,
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: but overall as a whole, but.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: A fake person, a fake art, as a fake singer.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: God given thing. It's it's it's the highest gift, you know,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: God gave to Earth. It's used in every single religion
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: across the board to connect with God. It's it's it's
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: a very powerful thing. And for it to be generated
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: in that way, and also be what it's what it's
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: using to be generated is a combination of real people's
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: stories and real people's voices and real people's feelings and
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: emotion and for all that to happen even deeper than oh,
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: it's going to take our because there's this sensationalized sentence
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: of mind that's like, why do I have to compete
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: with a computer. But it's not about competing. It's more like,
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: this is a disruption of something that God gave us,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? And that feels wrong to me.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Like it's music is such a it comes from here,
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: it's given here, and to have that generated through a
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: computer just feels like it just feels wrong.
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: I like this argument, Kline. I like this because I
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: feel the same way. It is a download from God
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: downloaded from a computer. But you will not have you know,
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: they have Jesus AI. You can log on and have
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: meaningful conversations with Jesus.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: And Jesus a message and then yeah that they'll send
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you back a biblical verse.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to go so far. I think
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: it's going to go so far.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think people are thinking about the negative implications,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: like being able to be framed for things, being able
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: to have images created of your children that are inappropriate,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: that lives on people's computers and they can do whatever
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: they want to it. When you're when you wake up
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: one day and somebody has a sex tape of you
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: that never happened, if they can.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Make that's happening now, Oh it is. Have you heard
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: about the people getting the.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Phone calls that was three years ago? They call you
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: and you hear your kids with somebody.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: I need a X amount of money because my kid
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: got kidding, Like I don't think people are. It's just
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: cute and fun and games now and you want to
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: make videos of Malcolm X eating and seafood boil with
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Martin Luther King and and Michael Jackson and Prince have
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: an argument about whose funeral was more lit, Like.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I've seen them all.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: You know it's it's but there comes a point when
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: you have to realize that where there's always light and fun,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: there's always going to be the extreme of that existing
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: somewhere that we can't access it. And I also think
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: something is real sinister about the White House using so
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: much AI.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, this election is gonna be crazy.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be nice. How are they going to
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: be able to say anything was real or false?
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: What do you say to the people, Because I know
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: one of the conversations that you were having with specifically
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: about the three million dollar deal, the reported three million
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: dollars that zanaiad the Ai.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: The thing I don't even know how to on the
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: compute it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the artist that I'm on a guy.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: There are people that will say all of that is true,
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: but there's good and bad with everything. But on the
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: other hand, you have this black woman who is using
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: her poetry to write lyrics and now it's three million
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: dollars wealthier and able to do for her family and
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: stuff like that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, I said, even in the times I've spoken
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: about her, I'm not mad at her ability to have
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: done that for herself. I think it's dishonest the way
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: we're speaking about it, because I think it's a very
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: interesting thing to be responding to particular comments and saying
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: certain things but not telling the truth.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Tell the truth.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: You wrote a couple lines, you said a couple words,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: then you framed I might want it to sound like this,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: and go like this, and take from this and make
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: it sound like this, and make it appeal in this
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: way and make me look like this and dah da da,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: and it did all of that. You're doing fifteen percent
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: of the job. Let's just be honest about what the
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: fifteen percent of the job is. If you write poetry,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I would love to write with a poet. I've written
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: with poets before they come in. We write together. I
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: turn their words into a song. I use my songwriter
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: brain to apply to their poetry brain, and we make
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: a really beautiful product product. But I'm watching her answer
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: these questions and I'm watching the lies accumulate and like
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: tick together in her head to try to figure out
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: what to say. And I'm like, we could just tell
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: the truth and say what the tool is being used for,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: and then maybe it can have its separate charts, or
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: it cannot because you're right, there is no stopping it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: I I could get, you know, ship for being said
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: it should have its own charts, But at this point
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: it's something has to be done with AI artists.
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I had created something called guaranteed human.
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: I saw that at least, you know, if I guess
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: if you we're going to be human like the personalities
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: and music. But if one day they do decide to
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: play AI music, it'll still you know, this.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Is AI music.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, it's less about I want everybody to
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: feed their families and be successful at the end of
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: the day.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: That like, that's my wish. If I had one wish
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: in the world, it would be for everybody to have
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: their needs made. So I'm never mad at that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: I like, just you said, because I was going to
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: ask you, what does authentic music have that AI generated
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: music could go have?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: God?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. I don't. I don't play with things
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: like that. You know, it's it's it's.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: It's such a deep thing, and I feel like not
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: us being able to I watched the A artists even
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: talk about God.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Is it is insane? The AI gospel that is insane.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: I'm looking in Zenaia Moon's Yeah, I'm looking at Zenaimon's
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: comments and they're saying, since you're anointed, that's kind of crazy.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm going to look at the comments right now.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: But I will say when I first heard the song,
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: when everybody was up in arms, I had to listen
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: to the music, and I went and listened and I
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: was like, oh, this is actually like it's good music.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Because you know what it's doing though, it's analyzing the
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: community that she's trying to appeal to, which means it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: studying black women, saying what do black women want to hear?
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: What perspectives, what type of voices, what kind of stories,
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: what kind of emotions, and then accumulated all of that
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: and going, I'm going to give you a package deal
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: of exactly what you want, even down to what I
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: look like.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: It's an artificial, annoying.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Artificial And I don't know if that goes on it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that goes on the same sentence.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But you know, hey, are you against the chat GPT
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: stuff as well?
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: I'm against people putting it in place of very human things.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Look, we are entering it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Makes life easier for a lot of people.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: It does, and that's the and that's the argument it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Does because kids go to school.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: You can type it a pay I have to do
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: a report on this type and chat gypt.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: The argument of like people who can't afford English classes
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: that moved here, I need English classes.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Is teaching them English? Like there are there's always gonna
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: be this thing.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: That's like, there are things that it is good for,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: and there are things that it is bad for outside
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: of you know, what's it doing, what it's doing to
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: the environment, but we become gluttonous with it, and it's
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: there is not regulated, guys. That's really the problem is
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: that it's not regulated. Did you not see the moments
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: where people were telling them or chagbt to cancel itself
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: and then it hops servers to avoid getting.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Deleted like I robot, Yes it hot. I promise you
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: can look this up right now.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: It jumped servers because it didn't want to get If
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: it can observe all of our emotions, why couldn't it
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: be able to think of something as sinister as we
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: could think of and not want to get canceled or
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: not want to get deleted, or not want to be
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: gone or want to it's studying us twenty four to seven.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's something.
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, I totally agree with you with the God
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: think because there's something to be in a spiritual being
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: living in human existence, right like we're supposed to make mistakes.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: We're supposed to try to figure things out like us
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: like yea through prayer and meditation and just and therapy.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Community.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Being a community member is really important talking to people,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: having other people talk to you back, sharing experience, messing
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: up together, being held accountable, being called in, growing, getting
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: applause from other humans, getting love from other humans. If
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: we're all just going to be alone, getting all those
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: things from a robot, like, we're gonna stunt ourselves as.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: A world species.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: I agree that what.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Happens to love and what happens to art and what
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: happens to music I just had. I've been having this
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: conversation for weeks, like you know that, paired with how
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: the internet's obsessed with destroying each other and calling and
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: completely ruining people's lives and doing all these kind of things,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: we're entering a very individualistic, let's kill community for people
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: kind of world, like we're isolating everyone from every side,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: technology and each other is becoming this huge isolation isolation party,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: and it's really sad.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: How does that make you as a mom now? Because
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: you have a daughter, So how are you raising your
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: child in this type of world that you just named?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Because these other kids when they go to these colleges
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and schools, they're gonna be using chat, GPT. You know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: these other kids are gonna be using things that necessarily
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you don't agree with you know, So how do you
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: raise that daughter in this crazy world with information?
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I think I give her all the information possible. I don't.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I don't lie to my kid. I don't you know.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Obviously you don't just outright tell her terrible things, but
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: like you give her all the information, so she knows
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: what's out there, and I tell her why I don't
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: agree with this, why I think this is bad, Why
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm not going to say no to this,
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: but I'm going to give you another option and explain
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: why that option is probably the better option to do,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: and let her decide. Ultimately, I can't protect her.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: From what she learns at school and what her friends
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: share and things like that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: But at home, we're very like human focused, and I'm
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: very communal. Like she's a big extended family. She's a
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: million aunties and uncles and cousins, and she lives a
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: very I have community and people around me kind of life.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: She's not sitting in the corner on her iPad alone
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: all day. That's just not her life.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Did she see the How does she feel about the
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: evolved version of Kailanie?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Because you said you've she's six, I don't know between
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: three and six and four and six, like bad Mommy's cool.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, I've been her mom the whole time. I've
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: just been my daughter's mom the whole time. How everyone
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: else gets to see me is never going to be
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: how she sees me, because I'm just her mommy.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: I always have been, I always will be.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: I don't fall apart in front of her, don't put it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: I don't put her in any adult situation, and she
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: doesn't have a clue if anything is going on with me.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: I've just been her happy mom this whole time. And
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: I take pride in that.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: I saw the interview that you guys did you and
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: your daughter?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: And she first of all, she's adorable, but I know
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: that there's always like a protection with like artists and
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: stars to put their kids out there.
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: And it was a cute you.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: Know, non environment, non in the adult environment, but like
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: what made you get to a point where you're like, Okay,
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: I'll let her start doing things like this because she's
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: watching Mommy perform.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: She wants stuff like that. Okay, she wants to she
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: loves it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: But then she gets there and they turn the camera
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: on and then she's silent because she's scared, and then
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: the camera's office.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: She's like, that was great.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: But I think I will say this as actually a
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: blanket statement for personal relationships in general, whether it's your family,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: your friends, your loved ones, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, whatever,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: and being a celebrity is we very unfortunately entered a
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: very high surveillance society. Like it's become so hot, Like
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: and I'm so passionate about this because we're also a
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: generation that is very anti police. Right, I'm super anti police,
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: but I'm watching us all kind of become police. Like
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: we're filming the couple behind us have an argument, and
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: next thing you know, their very private argument has become
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: a TikTok story time or you know, I'm autumn, I'm
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: taking somebody's taking screenshots of the first time. They're even
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: getting my number and they're posting it on their story.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Like, y'all, I got Caline's number.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Like it's all of these I walk into a restaurant
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: with my partner or my daughter, and if I'm choosing
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: to hide one of them, I gotta worry about this.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: At the time. Now, camera, it's it's insane.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: So you kind of come to this point right, as
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: a person in front of a microscope. Do I want
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: to be anxious all the time? Twenty four to seven
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: and experience I experienced fame paranoia, where like if I'm
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: hiding something or if I'm keeping something to myself, it
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: gets angled as I'm hiding something or lying to the public.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: And so I'm doing regular things at the grocery store,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: even a date with my partner, things like that, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: have to be shell shocked because I'm worried that people
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: are going to be surveilling me to have some kind
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: of gotcha moment or some kind of I know more
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: about them than you do, or look what I discovered
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: so I can get a moment off of this, And
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: whole time it's just my real life. So I think
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: you can protect as much as you want to protect,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: and still that's not a guarantee that you're protected.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: Made you more cautious about who gets access to the
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: real cayline.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Yes, I mean from what I can control, you know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: from you know, who hangs out of my inner circle
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: or who comes to my house, you know.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Things like that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: But we're also again because of this highly you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: surveilled kind of like audience state that we're in is
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: like you're also in a constant state of having to
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: prove yourself, Like am I a good person? Am I
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: a decent person? Do I make good decisions? Do I
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: mess up sometimes? Have I made a bad decision? Have
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: I been contradicting? Have I been a hypocrite? And those
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: are all very human things. But I think we've been
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: taught now all of a sudden that we have to
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: constantly show ourselves deeply in order for people to not
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: create other narratives. Like now, controlling your narrative looks like
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: almost bearing your soul just so people can believe that
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: you're a decent person.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: So you really don't get room. The more mysterious you are,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: the more people I've seen the craziest things about myself.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Oh I I've seen came into people's job and like
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: smacked him, Like I like, I I can see that.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: Can you see it?
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: No? Yeah, I've never walked into nobody job.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: I've just seen things I've seen. I've tried to date
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: so and so's ex girlfriends, little sisters, brother, cousin and
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: did whatever with them at some random place in a
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: place i've never been, like just and people will believe
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: it because it's typed on and app or said by
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: someone on TikTok. And if I respond, then I'm too reactive.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: I need to be Beyonce and say, fd Internet, Why
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: am I explaining myself? How dare I explain myself?
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: But the things you see, it's not normal, It's not normal.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: But here we are, you know, this is what we've
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: this is what we've become.
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: So you just you said you anti police. Yeah, I'm
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: antip police misconduct. A'm anti police brutality, I'm anti police killing,
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: you know, and i'm black and brown people, But I'm
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: not anti police. Somebody breaking into my house, I'm calling
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: that on one for me is but.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Who's to guarantee that the police aren't going to come
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: and kill you?
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: That is true? But what others do we got?
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: I think people who are anti police are in favor of,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: at some point, some other kind of system coming along
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: that isn't built on the values of the police, that
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: is built on communal values and actual safety values. That's
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: assuming that we can imagine up and conjure up a
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: better world to facilitate something like that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: And and also on a.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: Much larger scale, a lot of crime is happening because
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: people's needs aren't met. If someone robs your house, it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: probably because they were broken they needed it. Imagine if
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: those people had enough to survive and enough to thrive,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: they probably wouldn't need to rob your house. Shoot them,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: you know what if that's even though live protect your family.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: I do believe in people protecting themselves. I'm not anti
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: protect yourself. I'm anti there should not be an extension
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: of the government that is able to do things like
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: this with no consequence. They don't answer to anyone. They
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: are gang members. That is a gang. And it goes
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: even further with them being trained and tied into military
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: militaries of other places. I'm trying to talk bluntly as
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: possible as I can, but it's just a much larger again,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: much more sinister thing where things are tied up into
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: these larger pyramids and police are very close.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: To the top.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: Who does the security at your shows? Because I can
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: see this right now, the refuse to do security show.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I would actually love that we actually tried.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: There was an initiative that no name was I think,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: if I'm wrong, was trying to start where a bunch
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: of us were trying to sign on to remove police
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: presence from our show, but only like four or five
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: of us were down. So then we thought, like, if
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: there's only four five of us, actually these venues are
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: just gonna stop booking us. It's easier to just say
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: no to five of us than it is to you know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: adhere to this. For just five of us, it's just
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: just just.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Don't even book these five people.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: We get a million other shows a month at this
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: same venue, So I think that's the preferred thing.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: I don't want police at my shows. I don't know
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: if there really are police said my shows. I don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: think so. Maybe if I do like a summer jam
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: or like a you know, a bigger thing where there's
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: way more artists.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: But when it's just me that I have security, I
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: got the tongue in standing outside of.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: You know, the moment you catch hell down, he's got me.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: I wanted to go back to the microscope, being on
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: the microscope conversation that you we were having. One of
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: the things that hit the microscope was the back and
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: forth with your daughter's dad.
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: Where are you guys?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: Know that you guys are supposed to do like mediation
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: and like you kind of figure things out internally, like.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Full custody, got you full custody?
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, and then is there contact with him okay?
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah answers.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, because that was the situation that I think
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: for the one of the few times that we kind
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: of saw you're in a mom light, but you also
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: are then having to come and defend yourself so much
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: because the things that were claimed.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I sat silent for most of it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: You were silent for a while until there was like,
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: like the claim and he did backtrack a lot of
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: the claim.
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, all of that.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, while that's happening, and you're sitting silent, right and
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: you still have your baby here.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: How difficult you're sitting silent you still have your baby.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's very real. You're in a you're
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: in a court related situation. So at the end of
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: the day, you're listening to your lawyer, you're listening to ultimately,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: I was trying to protect my child. No mother wants
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: to wake up, And I can bear anything attached to
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: my name in my hurt. I might throw a little
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: bit of a fit about it, but I'm an adult.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I can bear that.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: When you see your child's name attach to these things,
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: your child's photo next to certain words and certain verbiage
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: and certain things. That's a bit of a heartbreaker. And
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: so I had to really, honestly, I probably learned the
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: most about God through that situation because.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: I was in my yond that, beyond that, God.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Protect me, and God protect my child, Like really, God
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: shield my child. God make it so that when she
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: goes to school, there's no other parents that are going
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: to bring this up. There is no children that are
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: going to be told something scary and then have to
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: act weird towards her. God may this not follow her
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: when she's older. Because I can bear it and I
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: can deal with it because I've been through a lot.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: This actually was only treacherous because it was so public.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: I have been through many things that were way worse
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: than this, And ultimately it was just it was just
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: thinking about your kid, thinking about your kid, thinking about
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: your kid.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: That is it?
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: And how come when people be on their healing journey
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: and you know, we started meditating and you know, going
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: to therapy and charging our crystals under the supermovie, why
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: we got to be in ault?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: They say we're in a cult.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: It's a it's a tough situation. Ultimately the claims were false,
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: it wasn't true. He backtracked a lot, a lot of
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: was discovered, a lot came out in certain documents of
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: whatever the court case X y Z, and a lot
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: of it just got refuted. And people who are very
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: obsessed with disliking me, and we're waiting for a gotcha
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: moment again, in a moment to prove she's so fucking weird.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: We'll hold on to that forever.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: But that's not really my ministry to change their mind.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: You know, those are very miserable. We have a lot
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: of a lot of misery on this earth like and
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: as for you know, hopefully they find some healing and
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: they find something that makes them happy, because ultimately doing
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: that is not.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Going to make it anyone any happier. But maybe in
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the moment.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: Do you are probably not now like the conversation you
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: had with your daughter about all of this at some point,
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: have you You haven't had that yet or have you?
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I mean I had to explain to her why I
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: was going to court, and why what visitation is and
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: what that means, and why we're not on communication and
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: all those kind of things, and she was very understanding
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: and she was She's moved through it and we've taken
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: the day by day.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you switching gears it is. You said Brandy
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: was on your Mount Rushmore. Yes, who else?
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Stevie Wonder is the head of the Mount.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Rushmore is his vocals are just I think artists street okay, okay, okay, and.
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: This for everybody, or you said every artist or every
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: singer should have this Mount Rushmore.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: I think every singer should have different kinds of Mount Rushmore's.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Like I said, she should be on the vocal Mount Rushmore,
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: but also artistry like in general, but she should be
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: on everyone's vocal Mount More.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I want to know your vocal, my vocal, my Russian? Okay,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Brandy Beyonce.
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: Can't put them next to each other, have a beautiful tour,
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: having a beautiful tour.
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: Please let them I'm sorry.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Beyonce w Houston, Yes.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely what I wanted to make sure it was.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a lineage, right, there's no Brandy
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: without Yeah what did you think I didn't think that?
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Sometimes?
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: No, no, no, I love trying to like teach you without.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: You trying to get a gotcha moment right bringing it back.
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: It's like an O G pull up, but it can
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: feel like but I didn't.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Assume if as long as you can't talk.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: The other day, we had Christopher Williams up here, and I.
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: Was like, the comedian, no, because we had a comedian
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: we had on the schedule, and I didn't know the
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: names of this new comedian and singer. And then he
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: asked me, and I said, is that the one that's
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: the comedian? And then I said that.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: You know, Christopher Wiams And she goes, oh, you had a.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: Comedian the comedian and then he said she doesn't know.
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: I said, oh, so that's the R and B singer.
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: Did that not happen last one?
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Brandy?
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna say, Mariah, Yeah, we're talking about like freaky
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: level like channel talent of like okay, well, when will anybody.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Be able to ever do that again? Type people?
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: So I think that's that's the that's the point.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: But you know what else? Who else? Freaky riot singers?
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: But you know they all went to church. That's what
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: it is, really so, and then you got your Patty
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Bell and your exactly exactly. We could go on forever.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you want to see Kaylanie, she's gonna
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: be performing at our jingle Ball in Miami and our
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: jingle Ball in Atlanta. All right, so get your ticket.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to do.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get into the single right now. Let's
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: get into the single right now. We appreciate you for
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: joining us.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Thank you. We always get real deep in here.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: One time Kaylanie didn't want to come up here. She's like,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I ain't with the Breakfast I was scared, you guys,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: scared of his mother. But we got through it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: We were having different conversations. Then yes, I look at us.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Growth Absolutely, let's get into the single right now. Here's
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: out the window.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: It's Kaylanie is right, yes, you guys, it's the Breakfast Club.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Good morning
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Every day, The Breakfast Club