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Interview with The Book of Boba Fett Costume Designer, Shawna Trpcic · The Art of Costume Podcast

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I forgot to know that Dave filoni gave me that he never
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wants to see Boba Fett and black.
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And you just wanted to look too much like Darth Vader and so I
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presented the sketches in there and he was like oh this looks
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really good. Yeah, it's subtle.
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It's funnel, loving it and I like you.
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Michael, 1D was my sketch artist and I've like my whole week
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before, you know, we got approved and and so hello, and
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welcome to the are accosting blogcast.
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I'm Spencer Williams. Thank you all so much for being
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here. We have a super special episode.
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Unfortunately, Elizabeth couldn't be here today, but
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that's actually beneficial to me because I'm a huge Star Wars
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nerd. And I have two thousand
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questions for today's special. Season one of my personal
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Heroes. She did the costumes for the
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Mandalorian season to Angel. One of my favorite shows, The
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Cabin in the Woods Elizabeth's favorite show fireflies, she had
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a ton of questions, I'm sure we'll just ask Shawna to come
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back at some point. And one of my favorite, all-time
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shows Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
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And she just did a costumes for the book of Boba Fett, one of my
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favorite shows. Shana terpsichore is here.
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Welcome Shauna. Hello, thank you.
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I'm so excited to finally be talking to you Ivan.
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I'm about this interview for months, and months, and months
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and months. Ever since Mandalorian season to
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you, for being patient with my crazy schedule.
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I appreciate you. Oh, I'd rather you be where
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you're at. So, you're great article
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content, Sean. I just have so much to ask you,
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but I just have to say, I'm such a fan.
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I mean, I'm one of those people that grew up with the prequel
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Star Wars films. The Clone Wars is one my
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favorite shows of all time. You've really had to bring to
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life a lot of my favorite characters, so I've just been
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dying to do. Any of you ever since that one
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episode with Ahsoka on the Mandalorian back in the day.
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So I've just thank you first of all for everything you're doing.
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Of course. So first, I want to start just
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with like the overall Legacy. We actually just did an episode
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on a New Hope a couple weeks ago, we talked about the costume
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design of John Malo, who ended up doing a New Hope and Empire
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Strikes Back. So I just really want to talk to
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you about this Whirlwind of a journey you are on, you know,
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Boba Fett. Has been around forever.
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Star Wars holiday special 1978 was our his first appearance
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going all the way to the book of Boba Fett.
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So first, I just want to ask you like, what is it like to be one
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of the costume designers of the Star Wars universe?
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And then what is it like to bring to life Boba Fett?
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I mean that's crazy. Yes, well, he was actually
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always been one of my favorite characters.
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I must say, I mean, of course we all had a crush on Han Solo and
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and Luke Skywalker but right In fact, you know, I had the Lego
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Boba Fett and, you know, all that kind of stuff.
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So when I was tasked with bringing him to screen the
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direction, I was given from mental or in season 2, from Jon
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Favreau was, you know, a man of the desert, you know, and he
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mentioned, you know, Lawrence of Arabia and in things like that.
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And so, when I researched Lawrence Arabia, you know, he
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was an all-black and so I just I took that too.
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You mean that John wanted him in black.
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And so I started sketching around and you know I've been
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very loyal when I created the you know the Boba Fett best for
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bands, I put it on you know, gray fabric.
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Like she would have looked in the original so but the
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schedules are it's so cool. My sketch artist at the time was
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with you know, sketch him up like oh that the armor really
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pops on the black. I love this and I forgot to know
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the Dave filoni With that he never wants to see Boba Fett and
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black and you didn't want him to look too much like Darth Vader.
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And so I represents the sketches in there and he was like, oh
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this looks really good. Yeah, it's subtle, but loving it
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and I got approved and so bringing Him to scream to me
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because I was changing his look so much.
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It took some of the pressure off because you're making any
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statement and I was under the protection of John and Dave, and
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Doug Chiang. That I knew they would let me
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Miss mess this up. You know, I was, I was in very
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good hands, right? That's a big moment before we go
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for it. I also just want to say you just
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came back from Star Wars celebration and the I can't say
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it's fomo because I just missed it look like he had the most fun
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ever. Fidelis, you so many great
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costumes on display. Yeah, over 65 costumes and this
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was the gift straight from talk about roads.
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The fans. Yeah, he did it for them, he got
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us all involved. But of course, we all love the
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fans to. And so we even, we pulled
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background costumes and Shiro costumes, who wanted to give
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them and, you know, fan groups that follow me like the Cozy.
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Fish people, I wanted to make sure I'm like, oh we got to get
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sweater in there, you know, John John has seen their blocks to
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he's Go one of the breakout stars of Mandalorian, seasoned
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competitors. So, let's cook.
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I mean, you could have your own museum, one day Shana fully
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support that another character who returned for the book of
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Boba Fett. I think, personally, my favorite
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character fennecs and played by ming-na Wen who is amazing.
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I'm obsessed with her. I just saw an axe last night too
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and she's amazing in that. Wasn't she great?
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Oh, good, I was Yeah, tell me about her costume because it
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does seem like it's got a little bit of an update from when we
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start a Mandalorian, but this arm is just the coolest armor
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ever that orange. Oh, I know, Flawless, yeah.
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So this is out, you know, obviously the direction of John
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Favreau and and Dave filoni given over to Doug Chiang and
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Brian May taste. And that, you know, they birthed
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it for season one, which was with Joseph, Parliament
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costumes, I am, right? And so when I got it, I did some
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updates to To get a better fit, you know, now, that the kind of
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knew how much movement they needed in their stunts activity.
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But then when I brought her, when she was brought in to book
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a Boba Fett, I thought that the helmet needs a little upgrade
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and design and function, you know, because you know, she'll
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be doing flips and give mink mink you as her son woman.
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Like, okay, we got to take care of these ladies.
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And so, and so we worked with the, you know, sculptor.
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And we tweaked the helmet here and there and, and reshape the
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slope, and gave her a little bit better Visual.
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And I think, Little little tighter design so just little
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upgrades, you know, so that we won't buy the fans too crazy.
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I updated Boba, Fett's armor to and Boyd.
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The fans got crazy with me. They're like I just finished my
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armor and it's a great Star Wars fans are the best.
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I'll get into a little later when I ask you to fan of
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questions but they have very specific detailed questions.
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I was like, I don't think it's really fun.
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Okay. I think one of the questions
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I've been the most excited. To ask you.
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What's the costumes you created for the tuscans?
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I mean, we've always seen as in the pretty much OneNote costume
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we've seen for their entire existence.
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So this is kind of mind-blowing actually.
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Can you just? I mean, I have a lot of
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questions about the tuscans about their Anatomy whatnot but
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from we got see point of view. Yeah.
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You just kind of walk me through this.
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This was so awesome. So again that you know the
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direction that I was getting from lucasfilm was the same as
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the tusker that we're all very familiar with, you know, and 10.
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But I had to support John's story of the man out of the
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desert, and it had been approved that he was an all-black.
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And so in my mind's eye the tribe that he would have been
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associated with needed to have black garments as well in order
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to pass that on to him. Hmm.
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And so some cool I started doing a lot of research on different
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tribes and how community, so isolated for population would
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come up with black costumes, you know?
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And so I was like, oh, charcoal and No fires would they can mix
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them up. And you know, these these fruit
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that they break out from the under the sand.
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Maybe one of them has black in it, like a scene in see an
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enemy. We have black ink in it or
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something. So I started playing with that
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and then other colors you know that sort of Reds from plants
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and the mustards and so they started to come together and
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then this was more of a nomadic Tuscan tribe in my head.
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So I Look to Mad Max again from the direction of John to see how
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Mel. Gibson's character had little
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trinkets all over his outfit all of his costume that he picked up
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along the journey. And so, I tried to find little
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Trinkets and pouches that they could put things in and carry
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things and it would sort of validate their nomadic
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existence, you know, on Tatooine.
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So they, it was an evolution and and, you know, literally my
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specialty crew lined up all their their face masks on my
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desk and I just want to turn on some good music and I just
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started painting them and And I wanted it to be very artistic
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and very emotional, and then they started painting their
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whole costumes and all the layers.
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And I'm like, it was like, creating individual pieces of
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art because John wanted you to care about them as individuals,
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right? So when they were in the battle,
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you felt the same pain as Boba Fett and if they all looked like
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it would be hard to, you know, bring them out and feel for them
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as individual characters and their Journeys.
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So that what we came up with, that's one of the reasons why I
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just Costume design so much. I mean you brought human-type
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qualities to a you know, cast of characters that we usually just
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hope that they get off the screen as soon as possible.
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You know, I mean you made them. You made us feel for the
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tuscans. I feel like allow that had to do
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if the costumes because you could tell that they kind of
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cared about what they're wearing and there was so much detail and
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story into each other pieces. So that means it's brilliant.
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Thank you. Another group of characters I
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thought was so fascinating, what's the mods?
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Like I said, Earlier I grew up watching, Mighty Morphin, Power
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Rangers, and I also love my favorite movies were to Spy Kids
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movies by Robert Rodriguez. So this to me felt like the
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perfect, like, combination of Shawna and Robert Rodriguez.
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It was so cool. Can you just talk about these
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characters a little? Well, again, this is a
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brainchild of Jon Favreau and it was funny because everybody was
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kind of butting heads with him and his vision because they're
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afraid, it would be too foreign to the Aesthetic.
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But he had very, you know, because there's a lot of Untold
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Stories of the layers of even course on Sand the underground.
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And we're all these different groups come from it and he
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brought us to you know just our own society and how you know at
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one point tattoos was really forbidden and piercing was
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really forbidden, you know. And so what would be very
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forbidden in you know in a land like Tatooine?
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Well, they've always been very prejudiced against Droid so he's
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like, oh people who modify their bodies.
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With Droid Parts would just be the absolute punk rock.
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You know, antisocial statement. So he created the mods, you
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modify the modification, you know, to modify their bodies.
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But it's also play on the word mods from the 60s and that
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fashion, where they dress a little bit nicer and especially
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in the desert community where everybody's in survival mode.
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These guys are, you know, Posh and you know the think they're
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more vulnerable but they're great Fighters you know, a great
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gang. So I tried to look for vintage
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fabrics and Stay in the colors that we associate with Star
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Wars, like the orange and gray of a young flight suit and
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things like that. But then take shapes.
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Because I'd be very careful that I didn't go Star, Trek, or
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sci-fi. You know, I had to stay period
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because Star Wars is a period film in its own way.
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And so, we started developed this, but then was Sophie's,
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charactered rash, he wanted her to be a little edgier than her
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cohorts. You know, not as Dapper and so
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we look to, you know, blonde Andy and, you know, singers from
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that era and and so I, you know, I introduced you the motorcycle
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jacket with zippers, you know, I was like, okay, the zippers are
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just going to be decoration, because there's no closures in
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space, right? Then I did some poking around
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graffiti art and John says, once you have David ciao, you know,
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do the graffiti. I'm like, this is even have time
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to do what we had done and leather jackets.
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And he painted it up in my yard is she had to do it, the double
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for the stunt double but so it's very fluid and very organic the
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way they were sort of born into this world.
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Wow, that's so cool. If I'm not mistaken.
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That artist is one who did the graffiti for the first episode
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of manda's to. Okay, that's right along the
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walls of the yeah, the nightclub super talented.
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Yeah, I love this fast. That's so cool.
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Yeah, very Punk for three hours and it's But just like
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everything was Star Wars, I think it'll grow on people, and
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people did make, you know, the cross Association of Power
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Rangers because of the different colors of the scooters and it
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would be at helmet Coruscant, like people would in question.
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But the point was we wanted, like, you would pull from Italy
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or you would pull, you know, Fashions from Italy, are you
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pull fashion from Paris? He wanted this youth group to
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have pulled fashion and ideas from the more sophisticated
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worlds, So right and I mean, that's why the reasons why we
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love Star Wars? I mean, there's so many layers
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and stories to this universe. I mean, it's almost impossible
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to say, well, you can't do that. I mean, why not.
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Exactly. So, we have to talk about Madame
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garsa flip, I love this character.
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So much new character, obsessed with her, her fashion was
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another level. I mean, she's so cool.
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She's even wearing white on a desert Planet.
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I mean, that's how bad she is. She is, yeah, I believe I read
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that the collaboration between you and Jennifer Beals was
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pretty strong in these costumes. Yeah, it was amazing.
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So she she always made sure even if she was, she was working at
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the time too. She always made sure that she
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had time for fittings. So we were able to sit and you
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know talk and work through who this character is going to be.
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And she had done a ton of research and knew that, a lot of
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twi'leks had come from slavery and So that she sort of made up
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her own backstory, is how she broke out, and how she achieved,
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you know, ownership and, you know, her level of status.
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Well, while we were talking, I said, you know, while you're
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prepping for this and while your journaling and trying to find
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her, if you see her feel any images, or have any Inspirations
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that you want to share with me, I'd love to work with that.
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As I develop your character in three dimensional realm of
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constitutive costume. So she came to me with this
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notebook and you'll see on her on her ears, that design, that
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straight from her dream, and they're all sort of integrated
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within within her armor but not armor but like her jewelry.
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And into the embroidery, you don't have the gold one here in
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the image but the gold dress you'll see sort of a chiffon
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panel almost like a modesty panel at her at her Center front
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of her her bust and all those images were from her dreams.
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And we hand embroidered and beaded that little section as a
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sort of like, oh, Maj to her journey and things that meant a
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lot to Garza, so that she'd see more human.
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So you could really relate to her.
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You had to understand This Woman's entire journey in a
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moment, and I felt the way to do that was to show to show her
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Jennifer Beals journey to find the character.
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Wow, I have. That is so fascinating.
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I love that collaboration between you and her.
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And also I feel a little sad now knowing that she might have blew
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up and then the sanctuary. Can I hope that maybe she was
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wearing something fireproof? And I mean if he didn't see it
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happen, it doesn't mean it happened.
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Yeah, so one of my favorite characters, speaking of the
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sanctuary, the amount of background work, I mean, it's
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hardly even background. You just really bring these
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worlds to life to Sanctuary Mando goes to like a quick space
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station. I want to say where you see a
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lot of characters. Is also just all fascinating
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really just iconic costumes. What is your process like
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creating all these characters that don't?
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You know, how speaking lines most of the time, right?
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Well, so what I always have kept in mind and I work with Gio and
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Frederick and Lawrence. And, you know, I have like three
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or four costumers that help me dress all the pole and put
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together all the background. So before we even go to an
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arena, I create boards to get into the mind of the area and
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for me. Cars.
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It was multiple different people from coming from different
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planets in different places. And this was like, everybody
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coming to Vegas. So I wanted to mix everyone from
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bounty hunters to the very wealthy and and then and then
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the space station. I wanted John's Direction was
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Tokyo at night, so they had more of a, you know, a cohesive Vibe
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but rather than many different places, but what I always kept
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in mind was Boba, Fett was just background.
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He was just one of many bounty hunters and yet he's become so
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iconic. And so important, So I treat
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every single background like a principal you know as much as I
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can it time and money but do we design every single one?
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You know, we Geo and Frederick and Lawrence and all them.
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They'll dress mannequins according to my boards and a
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color, according to my colorways, and then I'll edit
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and change and then we'll do the fitting that's on the background
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artists and sometimes we'll have to change a complete thing
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because they did the actor playing.
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The background artist is putting out a whole Vibe like wow, this
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is interesting. Let's change this up.
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So it's definitely a process. We have to do it, quick and fast
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and not a lot of money, but every single one is so now, you
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know, it's custom-built for that we do have, you know, I meant of
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Warehouse full of bottom layers that we then build upon to
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create these unique looks. Wow, I am blown away.
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And also if I take anything away from this interview, it's you
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know, at one point Boba Fett was a background character.
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Yeah, so you have to keep that in mind.
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I mean, any of These characters could be a main character when
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they that is so cool. I love that.
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I'm gonna write that down somewhere.
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Okay? So we had a lot of returning
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characters that were big surprises to the book of Boba
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Fett. We had Luke Skywalker, made a
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quick appearance obviously, didn't jar and the Mandalorian
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Ahsoka, which I'm going to try not to get too into.
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I hope that you and I could have a further in-depth conversation
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in the future about her. But so when you have returning
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characters, Ashley from a show you I have a feeling probably
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just finished, not too far behind.
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How does that happen? Do you like, give the costumes
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little updates to just pull them out of a closet?
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I kind of doubt that, no, especially with Luke Skywalker,
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you know, we reached out to Skywalker Ranch, which I've had
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a tour of. And so I knew they have all the
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original costumes there and I asked them to take pictures with
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color cards and measuring tapes to start with the original
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foundation. So, I had the original
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Foundations in my head then I design off of that too.
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Like you said slightly upgrade because Luke Skywalker's been
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through quite a journey since the last time we saw him on film
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and so he wouldn't be the exact same black outfit that we saw
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him. But you know, that's definitely
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the vibe. So and then he also had to
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change, you know, when it sort of the workout outfit and is
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Mark, you know, I guess official outfit so we played around now.
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So, that was told right away in Mandalorian, that he Would be
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there. I mean, we're sorry, wasn't
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right? It says, people Oakland right
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what does totally different people right?
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Right. And they're like what we want
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and we want this but they never told me the name but you know
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obviously as I started to build and I'm like so does pull Clune
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need one glove or two, you know? They're like yeah.
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And, you know, they gave me two different sizes.
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And when when I was slightly larger and women's don't tiny,
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and I'm like, this is Luke Skywalker.
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I know this looks kind of like so.
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So we made the outfits and then we did then John, and Dave
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wanted to go back a little bit more to the original when we saw
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him again. Oh, wow.
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So interesting, how by the way to lucasfilm and Disney?
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If you are listening, let's not take plug clean off the table
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though. Oh yeah, that's mine.
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So you just kind of give everything a little updates in
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preparation for the book of Boba Fett, that's really cool.
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I mean, if you if you get really close on Luke Skywalker's, you
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know all the draping here you'll see each piece is slightly
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different and we go into incredible detail.
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A lot of the Jedi clothes are influenced by Japanese culture
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of Samurai culture. They, you know, they do
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stitching and unstitching them. Even the heart armor has tiny
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little braids that go along the side of it, and And beautiful
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little puppies sewn into it. So it's important to me to find
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detailed even though it's a silver, it might just look all
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black. If you get in close, you will
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see that we paid a lot of attention to it.
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That's so awesome. And then for Sokka, I'm not
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going to dive into her too much because we're going to see her
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again in the future. But I just have to tell you now
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that we're finally speaking that I that episode with Ahsoka and
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Mandalorian season two was one of the coolest things I've ever
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seen. I've been wind that ever since I
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was like, you know, I kid. So it was awesome.
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I just Got to say it was just brilliant.
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I so excited to see what Rosario does with her next.
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I'm very excited. Okay wait.
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But speaking of characters that were brought back but I was so
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stoked, I wish I could replicate the scream.
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I did when I saw a cad Bane on screen for the first time, I
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mean you saw all the fan reaction videos out there.
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I wish. I recorded myself.
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CAD Bane is one of the coolest characters alive.
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Well, hopefully alive. Can you just kind of talk about
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your process of bringing a character?
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So loved by the Clone Wars and now the bad batch and bringing
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this to the book of Boba Fett world.
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Yeah, well I have my son Joseph, who is like the Uber Star Wars
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fan as well and, you know, it's loving this.
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Oh yes. And who?
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And he won't let me like work. We signed an NDA.
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We're not allowed to talk about anything and then use anytime
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I'm tempted. I like Joseph, you won't believe
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what I did is I was like, nope by it'll hang up the phone.
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Ali. Oh yeah.
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No, he's not. He's the responsible one.
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Let me mess up. And actually only tell me.
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I was like he's my best safety net to.
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So I don't break my NDA. Wow.
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Props to you, Joseph, I don't think it's like he's amazing.
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So I am designing also for Joseph, my son.
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It's like I'm hold each one of these characters incredibly, you
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know, close to my heart and and I have a fan for a child.
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So I know what it means to do this.
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Correct pressures on. Pressure is absolutely and so we
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do a lot of research and development.
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And again, I like to start with the foundation.
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So I got, you know, what was the original animated character
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based on and Lee Van Cleef? And you know all the old
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westerns with yeah all those guys and it straightly believe
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and cleans hat and and so we developed from that.
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And so all the Fabrics that I use our traditional Western
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Fabrics that you would have found in 1865 you know?
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And so we start there. Start with Lieutenant fabrics
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and then I know Dave likes to work a lot with wind and so I'm
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like okay this needs to be a little bit later.
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So we might catch a little little movement in the code and
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you know this needs to be this length and you start with the
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foundation then you start to manipulate it and you always go
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back to Star Wars and you always go.
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I went back to the animation, a million times to make sure what
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details am I going to keep? And what details can I let go?
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But maintain, you know, him and so it was a journey and it was a
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lot of fun to develop him. So cool.
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I mean, just when you heard his boots walking, I like she says,
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and I didn't, you know, I had chills.
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Yeah. And I was like, they wouldn't
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bring CAD Bane back. That would be crazy.
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Yeah, it blew my mind. It was just such a great
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performance. Oh, I know what's that?
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I mean those are all of my questions.
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I kind of blew through them, but your fans sent a ton of
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questions, like I said, they're all very specific.
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So I pulled a few that we could ask I believe two of them are
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from Tick-Tock, so So I'll do the Tick-Tock ones first at the
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random penguin 999. I love this question ecosystem,
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so simple. Like how did you make everything
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look so cool. And I was like, great question.
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Well, I guess again, I'm a fan. And I'm also designed for the
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fans, but most importantly, you know, I have done fabric, Dave,
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filoni and Doug Chiang as my Keepers and so, you know, I can
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come to them with something real wild and especially, Able say,
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nope. That's that's, that's not
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feeling Star Wars and and I'm like, no, you're right, you're
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right and it's always, it's always going back to period
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clothing and not sci-fi, you know, staying remembering that
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and I treat each character background or Principle, as a
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piece of art. And I do the research and I and
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I make sure that the Fabrics are ringing, true, the textures are
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being true and and and then the elements of Star Wars and I
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always feel back. I'm constantly you should see my
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My little Library, it constantly going back to the original
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trilogy and to, you know, A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back and
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Return of the Jedi to make sure that my elements are correct.
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And that, that I'm using elements that you've seen
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before. So that it rings, true even
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subconsciously. So it's just loyalty to my
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foundation and I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this but I
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have a feeling you're like a fan who you read the books and watch
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movies and my son. Last night, I got home and my
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son. I watched solo.
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You know. That's after, you know, 12-hour
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day of working on Star Wars. What else have you do more Star
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Wars? It was great.
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I was like, I've seen it a million times, but I was just
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like, oh, look at that detail. Never seen that report, you
27:14
know, and bright admiring, the costumes and, and being inspired
27:18
even came. And I told you this morning, I'm
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like, man, I watched the last night, I just feel like I need
27:22
to up our game and she's like, Please just constantly be
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inspired. The shows are like my background
27:40
shows when I'm like usually working on the blog or podcast
27:43
like I'm currently watching Rebels very I know that's
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probably what I'll start watching it again, you'll love
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it what? Because I you know, I watched it
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but then you know million things have happened since I last
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watched it and I feel like like It's so low that you re see it.
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You're good because I was watching solo again yesterday
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and I was like, why didn't people like this movie?
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It's just a great movie. Look at all, the references are
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made like I was like it's an awesome movie speaking of
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fabrics. Pharaoh Boca, Raton on
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Tick-Tock, just want to know how did you choose a fabrics and
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what textures do you try to reach for and why?
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So a lot is because we're on the small.
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Screen textures are very important because I want even
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just a straight costume streets element to catch the light from
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different directions and to create movement.
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And so it's important to me to find Fabrics with textures and
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depending on what the character is.
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If it's you know, if it's a Tuscan that it's a more hand
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woven texture. And if it's somebody like Garza,
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it's something that might catch light with a sparkle or with the
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richness there. And so depending on the
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character depending on what their action is depending on
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what that gets a do and it's going to be indoors or out.
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As mostly, I try to find Fabrics that will help tell the story of
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the character that you're standing before you because you
29:05
only have a minute to get to know them often, right?
29:08
And sometimes their time is shorter than others like Garza
29:11
for example. Yeah.
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And then final question, this one's actually pretty funny
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because my dad sent it in, I'll say to my dad and I really kind
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of bonded over watching the recent Star Wars shows.
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He started off Mandalorian season 2 and Boba Fett.
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So now he He text me after every episode and ask he's never seen,
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you know, Clone Wars or Rebels. So now he texts me every time,
29:35
like, who's the blue guy I'm like, yeah, just you wait, he
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want, asked, is there a costume or part 2 costume?
29:43
That you feel particularly proud of and is our costume that maybe
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feel like you if you had more time you would do differently?
29:51
Of course, every time I watch, you know, the show's over again,
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I'm like, oh, I wish I had more time.
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I wish I had what, you know, time to do that, more time to do
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that. But because I know Star Wars is
30:01
so iconic and that the choices I make will be replicated by the
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fandom. And then, you know, Lucas some
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keep such great, you know, track of everything and, you know,
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historically. So I really try to make my
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decisions and stand by them. So I don't tend to backtrack or
30:20
second-guess it once it's out its out.
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But you do, you know, you always want to keep learning and
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growing. So I feel proud of it all
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because I have an incredible team.
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Team, you know, for my assistant costume designer, listen and Geo
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my customers in Frederick, and, and then all my team, who are
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building everything all my artists that are building
30:37
everything, we really come together as a community of
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artists. And, you know, from usually,
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that's pretty crazy for even just two hardest to work
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together. Let alone 15, you know, artists
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who come together every day and join together to create these
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things with my tailors. My Cutters, everybody I'm proud
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of every item that gets in front of the camera, you know?
30:56
Because it's something that we all put our heart London Tube
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and, you know, we do work, you know, 12 to 15 hours.
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And, you know, there is no air conditioning in the warehouse
31:05
that we work in and, you know, we're in California.
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It's 110. So, we make a lot of sacrifices
31:13
of time and energy and even even goe goes home and watches.
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The Star Wars movies and all in a lot of my tailors do and my
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specialty guys, too. So, I'm proud of everything that
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makes it to screen, because I know that so many of us were so
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much heart and love it. To each piece I've been.
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Yeah. And that's a great way to
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finish. I mean, it's all just so
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brilliant. I'm so in love with the show and
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I'm just so excited to see what you do next.
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I know that there's so many things and surprises coming in
31:43
the future and I just shout, I'm so glad I finally got to speak
31:46
with you. Spencer, I really appreciated.
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Thank you all for listening, and thank you Shauna for joining us.
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