Latest / Cereal Killers / ICL, White Phosphorus and Gaza war crimes: A Follow-Up
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- 0:00Hello, and welcome back to the podcast. I'm Dr. Russell Sharp,
- 0:03and I recently did a podcast about ICL.
- 0:06They manufacture fertilisers for sports turf, hydroponics, for horticulture
- 0:11in general, and in agriculture.
- 0:13And I said that they were involved in war crimes in Gaza through the supply
- 0:17of white phosphorus to the Israeli military.
- 0:21And Vincent Bruges, Managing Director of ICL, has been in contact to clarify and counter any claims.
- 0:29And I did say, more than interested to debate and that you provide any information.
- 0:33So I'll do a follow-up episode. And this is that follow-up episode.
- 0:36So ICL fertilisers have been in touch.
- 0:39Also known, if you didn't listen to the episode, they're previously known as
- 0:44Israel Chemicals Limited, hence ICL.
- 0:46So they were a company started in Israel and still heavily involved in Israel.
- 0:51And yes, Vincent's points, he clarified that they don't actually manufacture white phosphorus.
- 0:58There's certainly no evidence that they do this, and there's certainly no evidence
- 1:00that they supply it directly to the Israeli military.
- 1:04But the situation is far more nuanced than that, unfortunately.
- 1:07And Vincent's fifth point was actually incorrect. So he's saying that my claim
- 1:11was false, and they do not provide white phosphorus to the Israeli military or anyone else.
- 1:18But there is a US Army document showing that ICL,
- 1:25purchase white phosphorus and supply it to the U.S. Army. They actually bizarrely
- 1:29buy it off Monsanto, or Bayer as it's known now.
- 1:33God knows why Bayer bought Monsanto, because they were up to all sorts of terrible PR stunts.
- 1:38This is one of the least bizarre, terrible PR stunts that Monsanto were up to.
- 1:44So I see I'll supply it to the U.S. Army. And we know through the casings found
- 1:50in Lebanon and elsewhere,
- 1:52wherever Israel has been illegally using white phosphorus on civilian populations,
- 1:59that the Israeli military are using American white phosphorus munitions.
- 2:06So Monsanto manufacture it.
- 2:09ICL buy it off Monsanto or Bayer as it is now, supply it to the US Army.
- 2:13US Army provides it to Israel. Israel drops it on Gaza and Lebanon.
- 2:18So those are undoubted so ICL are involved in this supply chain so I'm happy
- 2:23to clarify there is no evidence that ICL manufacture it,
- 2:28and thanks to Vincent for spurring me on to find this and clarify it and a couple
- 2:32of other interesting topics that need to be aware of in my research found that
- 2:38ICL sponsored battalion of the IDF,
- 2:41the Israel Defence Force the Desert Reconnaissance Battalion also known as the
- 2:44Gadzar 585 now if that's not true let me know.
- 2:48So they are involved funding the IDF, and so they're involved in that way,
- 2:55in what's going on in Gaza.
- 2:57And there is a video online of a member of the Gadzar 585 burning greenhouses
- 3:03in Rafa to take really cool photos.
- 3:06I'm pretty certain that's considered a war crime, burning down food production
- 3:09for civilian populations.
- 3:11And so not a good look for a fertilizer company. Yeah.
- 3:16A global fertiliser company with, you know, a mission statement such as ICLs
- 3:22to be burning down greenhouses in Rafa.
- 3:24So ICL is linked to the Gansar 585 Battalion, who have, there's a video of one
- 3:30of their soldiers, or more than one of their soldiers, at least,
- 3:33I don't know, how many soldiers does it take to burn down, at least one to film
- 3:36it, and one to stand in front of it, making themselves look good.
- 3:38So that was last year, they were filmed doing that. And then there's also the
- 3:42fact that 15% of the ICL workforce in Israel serve in the Israeli military.
- 3:48So that is a very high proportion, and ICL are linked to the Israeli military in that way.
- 3:54If they would like to come back and counter that, if you work for ICL,
- 3:59you've got to live with that fact that they supply white phosphorus to the US
- 4:04military, who then supply it to the Israeli military, and that the,
- 4:08profits from ICL fertilisers in some way goes to the Israeli military,
- 4:14especially the Gadzar 585 battalion, who are burning down greenhouses.
- 4:18So Vincent, let me know, and I'm more than happy to clarify.
- 4:21I'll take down the other episodes because it is factually incorrect.
- 4:24I did say they manufacture white phosphorus, and I haven't got evidence for
- 4:26that. So yeah, happy to do that.
- 4:29And as I say, I'm not taking sides in this conflict. I
- 4:32think both sides are doing terrible things that are
- 4:36horrendous and the use of white phosphorus and
- 4:39the burning down of greenhouses is horrendous as
- 4:42is getting on a bus and shooting a load of people innocent civilians dead
- 4:45that's been hydroponics daily serial
- 4:48killers grasp me up for today and hopefully
- 4:51a more cheering episode next time unless vincent gets in touch and says i've
- 4:54got something wrong again luckily with chat gpt i can research all the hebrew
- 4:58websites and other areas of the website that you wouldn't normally get the web
- 5:04that you wouldn't normally get to a google so thank you chat gpt for finding
- 5:06that one all right until tomorrow thank you very much goodbye.