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The Thunder Take Game 5! - Playoff Discussion · Bring The Thunder Podcast

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What's good Thunder fans? We are one win away from winning
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the NBA Finals. OKC takes down Indiana 120 to
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one O 9. J Dub deserves an apology from
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every single fan that was talking shit on his name, saying
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to trade him, saying that he was the problem, saying that he
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wouldn't step up. 40 bond, dude, OKC fans, we are here.
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This is this is what a win. What a what a win, guys.
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I mean, man, fourth quarter explosion.
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It's just crazy. Bro 40 points, 6 rebounds, 4
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assists, one block. Probably the greatest game in
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Thunder history right? As a player, it.
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It was that was also one of the biggest threes he's ever made
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when it was a two point game. Absolutely.
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It didn't look good off the hand.
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Either it didn't. That's dude that was the biggest
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shot of I've probably witnessed as an OKC fan from a from a
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player. I mean that shot alone, that is
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insane dude, that is. Great, real quick, just shout
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out everybody. J Dub 46 and four.
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Shay 31 and 10. Chet 9 points, 11 rebounds.
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Dort 9 points. 3A5 from three. Pretty pretty solid. 8 rebounds
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for Dort. Also Hartenstein 4 points, 8
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rebounds, 4 assists. Only shot the ball twice.
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Caruso bad offensive night, but of course he's still everywhere
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on defense. 2 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists.
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We'll call it a triple single. One block before steals.
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Wiggins 14 points, 5 rebounds, 43 pointers and Cason 11 points,
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2 rebounds, 3 three pointers, 4 steals.
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So hell of a game from everybody.
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Just like just Cason tonight doing his job, Caruso, I mean,
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missing off on the offensive end, but bringing it like always
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on defense, that dive, the the fact that he ended up getting
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that ball, he didn't know where that shit was, dude.
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He was reaching for it like crazy.
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Gets the ball. I mean, and that was one of the
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biggest momentum boosts of that little run in that fourth
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quarter that that was just huge, man.
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I mean, what a fourth quarter guys like there are definitely
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things to address like that, like the third quarter, but what
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a way to, what a way to bounce back, man.
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I mean just insane. Like a win to win.
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Also, we held Tyrese Halliburton without a single made field goal
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in regulation. That's the first time that's
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happened in Kylie's career, so I do.
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Want to be. Perfect timing.
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I do want to be a bit of a party poop here though.
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Please don't. Please don't.
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Do it. No, no.
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Do it, Joe. Do.
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It No, we don't win nothing yet. Let me let.
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Me, Joe, do it. Let me.
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Just talk my thoughts here real quick.
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Yeah, do it, Do it. Indiana made 11 threes tonight.
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We outshot at Indiana from the three-point line and Hal Burton
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was injured the whole game. Didn't make a field goal and
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they were within two points in the fourth quarter in OK C in OK
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C and we were playing good. Yeah.
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So listen, we're up 32, but there's a lot of work to be
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done. I agree, but I'm going to be the
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Angel on the shoulder here. TJ McConnell ain't dropping 18
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points again. There's no shot TJ McConnell is
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not doing that again. I expect a better game out of
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chat. I expect a better game out of
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Caruso. Like there's things on our end
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too that could have gone better that didn't.
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So I agree with you and I get it like I was I was fuming, but
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like that little that little 12 point run by McConnell in the
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third. That is not normal.
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Like he's been in the he's he's been affecting the series.
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Not like that, bro, not like that.
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That was the biggest third quarter of his entire career.
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I gotta hop in. I gotta hop in in hop in in this
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and get on capers real quick. When I mentioned our play style,
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24 assists tonight, every time we get above 20 assists and play
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a certain type of Thunder basketball, I, I called it out
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probably in the first half when I was live, I said we're playing
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the way we we played Thunder basketball with Shay getting his
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assist. I mentioned this, he'll get 30
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points regardless, but if he gets his tennis assists off and
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has obviously, you know, J Dub doing his thing, we'll win
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games. We don't need everyone else to
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step up when we have MJ and Scottie Pippen on the team.
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So we're chilling, man. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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I. Mean.
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Before before this game, Shay was only averaging like 3.4
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assess. So to come in and drop A10, I
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mean a double digit says clearly he was looking to swing the ball
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around and still getting what he needed to and even he was
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missing some shots that he doesn't normally miss.
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So factor that in as well. You know, I mean, he didn't have
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the best game ever. He just did what he did and got
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his 30 bomb. But like even he was missing
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some shots. So, oh, for three from three,
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and a lot of them are ones that he makes.
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So there were a lot of things that went right wrong for us as
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well. We still played good, but we
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still had things that didn't go our way either.
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So I get what you mean, Joe. Like it's not over by any means.
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It's not even close to being over.
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But the way I look at it is one, we just provided a bit of a
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safety net. If we do lose the next one, we
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get 7 at home. That's huge.
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But that's the, that's the pessimistic side of it.
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That's saying if we lose the next one right now, we got
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back-to-back wins. The Pacers just lost their first
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back-to-back game of the playoffs.
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That is demoralizing. And now it's an elimination
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game. Like that's, that's
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demoralizing. That it's their first
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back-to-back loss since February.
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So. And it comes, and it comes on
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the cusp of losing the finals. That is pressure dog.
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See how they respond. But you are right, the
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pressure's way back to Indiana side.
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You know, pressure was all on us tonight to get the job done and
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we did. We'll see how they respond.
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I'd like to see, you know, how Halliburton comes out, if he's
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healthy or not. I don't really know what's going
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on with his calf, but. It was a shin.
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It was a shin. Yeah, something something a shin
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bro. I'm pretty sure it was a Shin
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but. Yeah, it was like the side of
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his shin. I think it was just more of a
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contusion than anything. Something's up, man.
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Bro these these ref comments got to stop.
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We shot the shot the same amount of free throws today pretty
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much. I I think we had like two more
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free throws attempted to them and the rush were trying to keep
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Indiana. Indiana in that fucking game in
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the fourth quarter won't start that shit.
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They were all. That was terrible.
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Every time they need every time they needed a momentum killer
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they would get the weakest foul. They had like 6 free throws in a
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row. Like do not say that the refs
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were rigged that for no shot. Indiana shouldn't have two less
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free throws attempt then OKC when Indiana's the one who
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doesn't drive as much as OKC. They're not as good as driving
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as OKC. They don't get the looks like
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OKC and if Albert is not getting a field goal, they're not
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driving to the room. They shouldn't be close in free
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throws, yet they still are only two less so shut up.
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The one thing I want, I was going to read out the quick
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Bradley stat here. SCS 15th 30 point game now ties
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in with Kobe in 09, which is absolutely ridiculous second
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most time second of all time and also he's one behind Kareem in
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95 and Jordan in 92 and 30 point games in a playoff series.
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So if he gets 30 next game, closes them out, he'll have tied
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the all time record for 30 point games with a 16th all time in a
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run, which is ridiculous. 16 games, 1630 point games.
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That's that's ridiculous. He'll also probably enter the
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conversation of passing AI and one other player to be the all
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time playoff scorer as well. So he's getting close to that
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record as well. I mean at this point Shays had
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the greatest guard run ever, better than Steph Curry, better
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than anyone else that you can even name.
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I mean, no one can get close to the type of run that he's on.
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If he can close this out in 6, this would cement him into a top
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15 base baseline. That's where we're starting the
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conversation. So can't wait.
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Can't wait for that man. Yeah, I'm gonna need I'm gonna
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need one more win. I listen, I don't want to get
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into it yet, but I think we have them on the ropes right now.
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They're going to play with a lot of desperation.
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But I think J Dubs confidence is through the roof.
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We know where we know where Shay's at.
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We know where Chet's at. Chet's Chet plays better on the
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road. He he does, his stats show it.
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He's super clutch on the road. I, I think we have them.
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I think we have them. The one thing I wanted to
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mention, oh, sorry, I was just going to mention this real quick
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before the thought exits my brain, they actually played way
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better in the paint. They actually beat us in the
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paint this game, 48 to 42. And that was through playing
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through Pascal. And I felt like their offense
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actually hummed a little bit better in that system than with
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Tyrese. Like they kept it a lot closer
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with them getting more paint touches, more fouls.
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That's the reason they got those fouls, because they had Pascal
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kind of leading the charge and Loki, they look better, like
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truthfully. So that's just my opinion.
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I don't know. They look better because Pascal
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actually had a really good game if Pascal.
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'S been shooting the way. If he's been shooting the way
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he's kind of been shooting from the free throw line and
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three-point line, they can run that same shit.
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We're going to dominate in the next game like.
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I can agree with that, but I just don't expect a championship
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level player to ever drop off in must win games.
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So you'll probably have a similar game next game if I'm
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just honest. That's fairpoint.
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I I cut you off there, Gabe. Go ahead man.
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Sorry about. That I mean, no, you're good,
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you're good. I'm just I don't know, Joe, you
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kind of talked about having them on the ropes like we absolutely
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do. We were kind of talking about
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that earlier with them being in a in a less than desirable
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position here. But the same time, the thing
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that I'm hoping doesn't happen, I'm hoping that we smell the
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blood in the water instead of getting anxious that this is
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such an important game. You know, it's gonna be loud.
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We know that the fans are gonna show up.
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It's whether or not the team does so.
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But we also got to think about it from the other side of it,
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where Halley's never been to a finals.
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This isn't it's not like they're like they have some experience,
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but it's not like they're that much farther along than we are.
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They're they're really not. I mean, they got Siakam and
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that's big, but other than that, Caruso.
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We got Caruso. Right.
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But Siakam's Siakam probably. I don't wanna.
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Yeah, he was. He was the second best player on
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that Toronto team that year. He he's bigger than what Caruso
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has. It was but so they have they
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have the Siakam advantage. I'll give them that.
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And other than that, I mean, they just rely on the power of
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friendship and and really good passing and shooting.
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But like when their backs are against the wall, it's an
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elimination game and they've lost two in a row for the first
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time in months, can they respond?
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Like we talked about, they're gonna come out swinging.
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That's either gonna work really well and we're gonna have a
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tough game or it's going to fail horribly and we're going to
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obliterate them. Because if they just come out
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shooting to shoot, to be aggressive and they're not
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falling, that is demoralizing. As each quarter goes by, they're
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gonna realize they're 1/4 closer to losing the NBA Finals.
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That's a. Good point.
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That's a good point by Hotspot in the comments right here.
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You said Carlisle too. The coach is a he's a finals
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winning head coach. Yeah, yeah, he's.
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A great guy. Between Carlyle and Siakam,
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they're gonna have cool heads. So I don't expect a situation
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where they shoot themselves out of a game.
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They're always gonna be in a game.
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Like that's the reason the Pacers is just so dangerous.
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We saw it in this game alone. I mean, they started coming back
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in the third. They kept it close in the 4th.
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I feel like if Tyrese was any healthier like this would have
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been an even closer game than it was.
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So I still think we would have closed out with the way Shay and
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Jada were playing. I don't think anything really
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stops, you know, an unstoppable force in that case.
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I think it'll be the same case in game four or game the next
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game here, Game 6 away. I just see Caruso also didn't
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have a game where he stepped up and he's kind of an every other
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game type of guy and you know, he's off the bench.
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So I expect him to play a lot better for the next game.
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If you can give us a close to 15 points, I'll be really
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comfortable with that. The one problem I have with
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playing Rd. games is Mark Dagnell does not trust his Rd.
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Rd. game role players, specifically Aaron Wiggins.
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He's actually the highest plus minus guy that we have on the
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roster. I looked at it and he doesn't
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get the minutes consistently. So I have a really big problem
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with that where we fall to victim into, you know, getting
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away from the rotation early. And then it gets like if it's a
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game like this where it's close all game and we have to ride
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Shay and J Dub, eventually they're going to get tired.
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They may get in some foul trouble and you should trust
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your guys a little bit earlier rather than later.
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Like I'd rather have these guys rested for the 4th.
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Cause honestly, this Pacers team is probably going to run it even
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faster because they know it's the last game of the season.
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And the other thing, we haven't seen Tyrese Halliburton play
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over 40 minutes. Expect him to play over 40
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minutes next game. So that'll be a big X Factor as
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well. Yeah, well, I'm not necessarily
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worried about Coach The the game plan is there.
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We already won on the road. We know how to beat this team.
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I got to say two things. One, Halliburton, I don't think,
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I think his pride's a little hurt, to be honest.
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I think it might be a little banged up, but I saw Chet
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rolling ankle twice in the last game and he got up and kept
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playing. He kept playing.
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Well, I think Halliburton's confidence is a little bit
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lower. I think Lou Dort's in his
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fucking head and our defense is kicking his ass and he's having
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trouble with navigating it. Another thing, JW becomes the
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second player in OK C history to have a 40 point finals game, and
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that is second to Russell Westbrook.
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And the third thing is, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm not worried about
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role players and whatnot. Mark seems to know when to take
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put people in and take him out. Like he started the second-half
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of Caruso, which I didn't mind. And listen, their role players
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might have, you know, they might be better at home, but they're
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going to have to go with their starters for most of the game.
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It's a, it's a must win, you lose, it's the end of the
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season. So I'm fine with playing hard
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guys as many minutes as we want. And I think we'll come out on
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top. It's all going to be on Sorry I
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keep cutting you off my. Bad.
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Someone take it. Someone take it.
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OK, OK, I got it. Ladies and gentlemen, I've been
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a big Jalen Williams J Dub critic.
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His whole, well, not really his whole, but the past two seasons,
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OK, I love J Dub. I hope I'm wrong.
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Every time I critique him the next game, he has proved me
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wrong time and time again in the back latter half of these
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playoffs. I'm so happy he proved me wrong
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that I don't want to be right. But he showed up and show it out
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in these finals. He showed up and he showed out
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against Minnesota. He's bounced back so much
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tremendously since struggling against the Denver Nuggets and.
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Mind you he only struggled, he only struggled 3 games and the
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next war he closed that Denver series as well so.
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Jalen Williams, if you're out here watching this, I am your
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biggest critic and you have proved me wrong and I apologize.
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I still would trade you for Giannis though.
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No, stop, stop, stop. One game away.
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Stop but but but. I may have to.
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Take you out of. Here you can't be saying that
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when you're 1. I owe you an apology.
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We're one game away from the NBA Finals.
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My God. I don't care about no Giannis.
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I don't care about no Yokit. You can respawn MJI.
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Don't want MJI, don't want nobody.
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Yeah, you do. Yeah.
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You would we have MJ on the court, We have Scotty on the
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court right now. In 2025.
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I don't need nobody else. There's not a single player.
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There's not a single player you could spawn in.
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You can spawn in 10 Kobe's. I don't want them.
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We got we got the team we need. J Dub I was wrong man.
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J Dub has 93 points in the last three games.
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That's 31 on. Ave. feasting 31 on.
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Ave. That's crazy.
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One thing awesome is what kind of goes under the radar is when
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they were cutting that lead, our defense made a lot of stops and
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that came from Shay. He had two big steals, created
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them, created the turnovers into points.
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He had a nice block that was created into points, so he came
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up huge on the defensive side of the basketball today.
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What do you have? 4 steals and no, four blocks and
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two steals? Yeah, the block, we had four.
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Blocks. So really timely blocks as well.
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Yeah, just outstanding effort for him on the defensive side.
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And that's why he's the MVP, right?
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Both sides of the basketball. I got to I got to pause this
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real quick. Guys, we're one win away from an
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NBA championship, from an NBA champion to everyone in the
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chat. We're one win away.
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We saw loss unbound crash out after losing Kevin Durant.
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Like we're back. We're back.
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We're doing it for all the legends, the Thunder legends.
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I got to mention a couple of the names.
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You guys throw out some names that of favorite X players, but
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Serge Ibaka, we got a Poku comes to mind right now.
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Steven Adams comes to mind right now.
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Like throw out, throw out three favorite players that we're
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doing this for right now. Russell W Adams We didn't do
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shit though. Not yet, not.
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Yet are y'all not saying Rust though?
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I'm doing it for fucking Russ. Of course, of course that.
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One. That one's a given.
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That one's a given. I feel like one win away man 1.
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For Nick Collision. Nick Collision as well.
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Yeah, man. Derek Fisher.
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Yep. Jackson.
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I can't believe it, man. Do it for KD.
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No that's worse than me saying trade J dub bro.
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He said it. He started moving backwards.
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Andre Roberson do it for Tatum. You know what bro?
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Do it for Terence Ferguson man Nazir Muhammad Eton Thomas.
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Do it for Terence Parsons. Jeff Green.
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Terence Parsons for sure, because boy, he'd be hating on
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OK C Oh my goodness. Hey, listen, but for real
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though, I think I think we're going to get it done in six.
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I think they're done. I think they're going to be, I
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think they're going to give it their all in the beginning and
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then we're just going to slowly break them down and they'll
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they'll give up. This team will give up.
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They don't give up bro. They will.
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I don't, Joe. I disagree.
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Yeah. I don't think they'll give up.
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Then definitely it'll be. It'll still be a stressful game,
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but Shay and J dub just snatched souls.
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They're just too much for them at the end of games, bro.
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Both of them, yeah. They're the only issue.
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I think that's when they're. Going to give up not early.
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They're not going to give up early.
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Yeah, they're definitely. Not they see it coming.
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They're like, damn. You guys tell me a better duo in
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the NBA right now on both ends because I can't think of 1.
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No, there isn't. That's why we're in the finals
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and we're going to win. Exactly.
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And we have that for the next four or five seasons, maybe more
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than that. Like, that's ridiculous.
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This seems locked in, at least for the next three seasons.
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Let's close this out. Get ready for the parade, start
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getting our draft picks together and rerun this back man with
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Russell Westbrook on the roster. His first 3 field goals were
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like loud ass dunks too. J Dub.
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Yeah, they were. It's.
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A rim bro. That got him started with the
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crowd. And then honestly, this was,
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this is a magical performance. Like I saw Pacers fans in my
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live chat. They're just like, he can't miss
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right now. Like everything he got to the
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basket, everything he got. The spin around fader that that
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that fade was disgusting. That that was like that was Kobe
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shit. That was insane.
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He knew it was going in bro. He knew it was going you could
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you. Could tell when he's feeling it,
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you could tell when he's feeling it 'cause he starts taking those
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types of shots and they start going down like it's nothing.
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When he has that, he's unstoppable, bro.
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When he has his MIDI going, it's just been, I think his hands are
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still a bit hurt. I'm not going to lie, even
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though he's dunking the hell out of the basketball, there's
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something going on because his mini's disgusting when it's
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going in it. It's really hard to beat OKC.
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Is he close to Finals MVP if he has another?
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No, I was thinking, Oh no, hold on, Savir.
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Now, Savir, hold on a minute. Stop it.
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Now hold on a minute. If he has really he has 30 plus.
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If he has 30 plus in a closeout game and.
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We waste the half 30 as well and.
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He but but J dub's averaging 30. Two.
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You don't know that though. He's.
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Averaging 3233 and he's been doing it throughout the entire
21:18
like he's been doing this like he's they're not not going to
21:21
give it to the MVP. They're going to.
21:24
The only thing I could see is like if J Dub has another 40
21:27
pointer then maybe it's a conversation because it's like
21:30
Oh yeah, back-to-back 40s in a, you know, close out games.
21:34
But outside of that, like if they both have 30 at the end of
21:37
it or close to each other, Shay's definitely winning Finals
21:40
MVP. Like he's so far ahead.
21:44
Honestly, you could make a case that he could win Finals MVP in
21:46
a loss situation for probably the second time ever in NBA
21:50
history. That's how good of a final
21:52
series he's having practically historical like he's third all
21:56
time in playoff scoring. Like there he's he's broken like
21:59
almost every regular season in playoff record as a guard that
22:03
you can even name and think of. He's breaking Wilt records and
22:06
those are unspeakable records, essentially video game numbers.
22:11
So. So Shay's averaging 26.
22:14
No, no, no. Dub is averaging 26, six and
22:18
four. Shay's averaging 32, five and
22:21
five. It's not close.
22:24
Yeah, OK. I.
22:25
I agree with Satvir if he pulls another 40 bomb maybe.
22:30
They would do it. Just because it's different.
22:33
For, like, conversation, because the NBA likes conversation, but
22:37
outside of that, it's Shay's. MVP man, if the if the NBA wants
22:40
to push motives as well, Shay winning MVP and finals MVP would
22:44
also be a motive to push. I mean he's won like there's a
22:48
motive to push there for Shay winning it as well.
22:50
So there's just if J Dub drives forward, we can talk.
22:54
About I really don't care who wins the final MVP because at
22:58
honestly, we just need to win the next game, win the
23:00
championship. I don't care who it goes to
23:02
bring and give it to a bench player for.
23:04
It's just a trope Caruso. There's some I yeah.
23:07
Give it a Caruso. There's something I forgot to
23:09
bring up when we were talking about J Dub's big three to
23:11
stretch the lead back to five in the 4th.
23:14
All possession ready. J Dub misses his layup.
23:18
Hartenstein offensive rebound. Hartenstein misses his layup.
23:23
Cason Wallace offensive rebound J Dub 3 back down the floor,
23:29
Cason Wallace steel. Cason Wallace done back up to
23:32
seven. So big shout out to Cason
23:33
Wallace right there. Oh.
23:35
Yeah, he made his first 3 threes tonight to the series.
23:37
Yeah, he came. Out he came out hit him.
23:40
We've been waiting for him. We knew it was coming.
23:42
Perfect timing. Second year guy as well.
23:45
Another second year guy. Yeah, one one more game though.
23:48
Just got to do it one more time. One more time, man.
23:51
We just need a little efforts from all the bench guys or like
23:54
the guys that we're playing. And Caruso to step up big.
23:58
Yeah, just Caruso just steps up and this is like a 2030 point
24:01
game. Chat hits a couple easy ones
24:03
towards the basket that he kind of missed.
24:06
The lead would have been blown in this game as well, like 20
24:08
points way earlier. We just kind of let him back in
24:12
it in the third. TJ McConnell had the 18.
24:14
I don't see him doing that again.
24:16
I think the adjustment there is, I was saying this on live, get
24:21
the bald eagle on him and he can't do nothing.
24:23
So I don't see anyone else really.
24:27
We can't be testing out who to guard on TJ because nothing else
24:31
was working. So man, but Mark knows what he's
24:35
doing. He's got this Indiana team
24:37
figured out. He he's he's pretty much got him
24:39
locked in on what their game plan is and exactly how to
24:41
counter it. I can see it.
24:43
He did it last game and once he figured it out, once I saw it
24:46
click, he knows to rest Shea at the proper moments.
24:49
He knows to give the ball handling the J Dub and Caruso.
24:53
Honestly, there's no other counters to having a two man
24:56
game between two guards 'cause you can't leave J Dub on a
25:00
weaker defender 'cause he's he's going to get to the rack.
25:03
You can't leave the MVP. You're pretty much in an
25:05
indefensible situation. And I don't think it's just the
25:08
Pacers. I don't think there's a single
25:10
NBA defense that can stop that set play in the NBA Finals.
25:13
Well, they were relying on J Dub to miss shots, and he's been.
25:17
Yeah. Well, yeah, he's not going to
25:19
miss, especially with the wide open looks that chase providing
25:23
him on the two man game. It's that's why I'm saying it's
25:25
the highest percentage looks between each other that they can
25:28
get. Like I'm pretty sure that play
25:31
it was at like a one point O 7 per possession.
25:34
It's probably up to like a 1.1 right now per possession.
25:38
And that's a really high rating for a set play that you go to in
25:42
terms of just in general in the NBA, you're shooting over a
25:46
point per possession on that so per minute.
25:49
So pretty solid. Siri should have been over
25:52
tonight, boys. No, don't even remind me bro.
25:55
We don't need to talk about that.
25:57
We don't need. To talk about.
25:58
That especially for hey, especially for caper's sake.
26:01
Let's just let it let it go. Oh my.
26:04
Gosh that that makes me want to pull my hair out sometimes.
26:09
Hey dude, I'm losing. I'm losing hair, man.
26:12
I'm I think you win it all in. This series like 15 point fourth
26:16
quarter lead. Hold on to it.
26:17
Yeah. Man.
26:19
OK, whatever. It's over now.
26:21
In the past. In the past.
26:22
In the past, Now it's in the past.
26:25
One more thing I could be an asshole about is win the goddamn
26:28
second halves. Win the second halves, please.
26:31
Yeah, win the, I think we, I think we lost by three this Or
26:36
maybe we won by three, but we lost the third quarter by 6.
26:40
So just picking up, bro, we're a third quarter team.
26:43
I need to I need to give a quick shout out to Three Cone for
26:47
showing up for this game. He's 13 and O with him in
26:50
attendance since 2023. So shout out to the boy Go.
26:55
To. Indiana, man, yeah, hopefully
26:57
you can go to Indiana to help us close out again, but just wanted
27:01
to get that in there 'cause he's been a super fan and he's one of
27:04
the reasons that I got into content creation, so definitely
27:06
wanted. To.
27:07
Yo, bando, Bando, if we went on Thursday, we're having everybody
27:11
on. Don't worry, we'll have
27:12
everybody on. Just not been.
27:14
Yeah, we'll, we'll get the whole everybody, everybody join up
27:17
here, especially the regulars. Bradley Bando.
27:23
I'm trying to sombre hotspot. Yeah, hotspots get to get up
27:27
here. We got to chat it up with the
27:29
guys. Man, that'd be amazing, for
27:31
sure. Oh my goodness.
27:33
I guess, I guess we could do predictions for Thursday, yeah.
27:39
Works for me. Thank you, Indy sports fan.
27:43
Likewise. It's OK.
27:46
C in six man. But yeah, stop here.
27:48
Give me what? What?
27:49
What are we doing bro? It's OK C in six I had
27:52
originally predicted the series in 6.
27:54
Maybe not in the difficulty in the manner that we lost.
27:57
I thought we would have lost normally, but hey, they hit you
28:00
know they had a game winner that's cool.
28:02
You know cool for them, but I really I respect this team.
28:07
They've put up a great fight. I honestly expected a really
28:10
good fight with the way they've been playing all season up until
28:14
through the playoffs as well. Man, we took them wire to wire.
28:18
They took us wire to wire. They hit trading blows even in
28:21
this game big threes to answer us the next game.
28:26
Shay and J dub has taken their souls man, like this is the best
28:30
duo in the NBA. We have the.
28:32
Best player in the NBA? I thought they.
28:36
Sold theirs already. We we bought it back for them
28:39
just to steal it. So we'll we'll definitely go to
28:44
Indy, close it out. I just don't see any other way
28:47
because when you have the best player in the world, this is
28:52
honestly, people are talking about free throws this free
28:55
throws that. This is the generational level
28:58
talent. Like I, I mean, all of us have
29:01
been glazing him because we're Thunder fans, of course, but
29:05
truthfully, like as if we take a step back outside of just being
29:08
Thunder fans, this is this is ridiculous stuff we're saying
29:12
there. There's a reason he's getting
29:13
generational hate because he's a generational level player.
29:16
There's literally nothing when he puts the blinders on and he
29:20
sees just himself in the basket. There's five other players on
29:23
the court and literally Kobe esque style, three of them can
29:26
contest his mid range and he's gonna hit that thing.
29:29
It's the most crazy thing I've seen.
29:31
I don't think I thought we'd see a player of this caliber enter
29:36
the NBA so soon and the fact that he's on the Thunder, I'm
29:39
loving it, man. We're closing this out.
29:42
We're winning that, We're winning that next game, 110 to
29:44
110 point lead. Shay and J Dub are going to
29:48
close it out at the end. I really respect the Pacers
29:51
team. Even with if Tyrese is healthy
29:53
or hurt, they're going to be within 10.
29:56
They're going to find a way. If it's not TJ McConnell, it's
29:58
Mathurin. It's always somebody, but we'll
30:01
win that. I respect them, but we'll win
30:04
that game. Thank you, Andy sports man,
30:06
Appreciate that you're trying to do like reverse psychology.
30:11
But my prediction, I think we lose.
30:16
I think we lose game six. I'm joking.
30:20
I think I think we win. I think we win if we do what
30:26
we're supposed to do. We got to stop letting them get
30:29
so many offensive rebounds, stop letting them beat us to the
30:32
ball. But I think Shay and J Dub will
30:36
go crazy. I think Chet will shoot well.
30:38
I think we'll win, I must say, 112 to 107.
30:48
And then we're going to have a parade.
30:49
Go a parade. This team, this team's backed
30:56
into a corner right now. They, they just lost their first
30:59
back-to-back games in the playoffs.
31:01
They're, they're relying heavily on a big performance.
31:04
We know their fans are going to show up.
31:06
I don't think they're accounting for how aggressive we can be
31:08
right back because they're going to come out aggressive, but I
31:10
don't think they understand how aggressive this team can be.
31:12
So I, I think we take Game 6 here.
31:15
Honestly, I, I, I see us pulling away at the end into a pretty
31:19
big, I can see us win by 1012 even more than that, just
31:23
because if we go on one of those runs, it's going to be, I know
31:28
these guys won't give up. They don't have no, no, they
31:32
don't have to listen. They don't have to physically
31:35
give up. Halliburton already did listen.
31:38
Listen, they don't have to physically give up, but they
31:41
will mentally give up, whether they admit it or not.
31:43
They will mentally give up in the sense that in the sense that
31:47
it will start to dawn on them every quarter, every minute that
31:50
ticks away. If we're winning, it's going to
31:52
dawn on them that they are going to lose the NBA Finals.
31:55
So they might not literally give up.
31:58
You'll see it. I think we'll see it.
32:00
I think we'll see them start missing shots they miss.
32:02
I think we'll see our defense get in their heads.
32:04
I think we end up pulling away, winning.
32:06
I'll go. I'll go 1:15 to to 100.
32:10
Real quick, one of the comments, poor Indiana.
32:13
No, no, no, we haven't won shit. So ain't no poor Indiana.
32:18
We're we're going to step on your fucking face in game six.
32:21
No, poor Indiana. I have a caper gun.
32:24
OK, so I agree with some of the stuff that Gabe said, but I was
32:28
just, while Gabe was talking, I was doing a little bit of
32:30
research because after every game I looked to see what the
32:34
what Vegas has the lines at and you know.
32:37
That capers hairline smooth knock a lot.
32:40
You know, you know, you know they have OK C at -5 I don't
32:50
like that guys. So what it's been, it's been
32:53
like on the road. It was 10, just it was 10 today.
32:56
No, on the road it's been like 6 and a.
32:57
Half yeah, like 6-5 we're. Going to guess Minnesota.
33:00
So. I don't think we'll be in.
33:04
Indiana, bro. I don't think we're beating him
33:07
in Indiana. Obviously I hope I'm wrong.
33:11
I could see this game going to the wire.
33:13
I just don't trust our role players enough to show up on the
33:18
road in a big magnitude game like this until I see it.
33:22
Not stars, role players, role players I don't think OKC can
33:28
get away with heading into the fourth quarter with Wiggins not
33:32
really doing shit, case on not doing shit, and we're coming
33:35
into the fourth quarter with what, 2 threes and barely
33:39
squeezing that dub out? If if I know the Pacers like I
33:43
know them, they're going to give us every trick they have in a
33:47
bag and they're not going to give up and they're going to
33:49
play all 48 minutes regardless of Halliburton is injured or
33:53
not. He's not.
33:54
He gave up. I can see OK see dropping this
33:59
one like one 17112 like a like the Pacers cover.
34:05
I can see the Pacers covering, but like winning by like what,
34:09
maybe four or five points maybe, But they're not beating us in
34:13
Oklahoma, which is why I'm not. I don't really have a problem
34:15
with it, but I hope I'm wrong because you don't want to get
34:20
back to Oklahoma and be in a do or die situation and you have a
34:23
bad night and then you're screwed.
34:25
But I just the way if I know Indiana, the way I know them,
34:30
it's going to be Hail Thursday. I'm looking for.
34:32
Go ahead, Gabe. I think you make good points,
34:35
capers. We could be down O3 going back
34:38
to Indy and I tell you, OK C, OK C and OK C and seven.
34:41
So I get what you're saying. I I do I I think he made good
34:45
points, but I don't know. I think we have the right guys,
34:48
bro. I think we have the right guys.
34:50
I think Lou will show up. They're.
34:51
Going to have to the role players are going to have to
34:53
show up though. Somebody will trust them to show
34:56
up in this game like like. Fellows, let me ask you a
34:59
serious question. I think you're forgetting about
35:01
one player. I think he's unbiased.
35:03
Just because we're OK, see. But do you trust everybody
35:07
outside of Shane J, though, to show up Thursday?
35:10
I trust Cason Wallace to show up.
35:12
He showed up on the road last year in Dallas.
35:15
I trust Isaiah Hartenstein to have a big game in Game 6.
35:18
I think people are forgetting that we have him.
35:20
He's been somewhat quiet, but he's been great on the boards
35:24
and I think he'll have a bigger game on the in Game 6 on the
35:26
road. I trust Alex Caruso.
35:29
He showed it twice in Indiana. What else do you need?
35:32
That's three role players right there.
35:34
I'll say this, capers, no, I don't trust.
35:35
I don't trust every role player but I.
35:38
Trust every role. Player enough to win the game.
35:41
I don't expect everybody to play perfect, but I trust this team
35:44
enough to pull out the win. I don't really.
35:46
Care about the role players bro if Shay.
35:48
We're going to need to show up. You're not going to get away
35:51
with going into the four foot 1/3.
35:54
Your star is going to make threes, JW going to hit threes
35:57
and I expect Shay. I think Shay's going to have a
35:59
legacy defining moment. I hope you're right.
36:02
I think I'll jump in here real quick.
36:06
I don't think it's necessarily capers about like them showing
36:09
up for the whole game from what I've noticed, it's them just
36:12
showing up for the spots that we need them as long as either
36:16
we're maintaining leads. Or timely shots.
36:19
Just hitting timely shots to stay in a game.
36:22
Those guys all like whoever is on the court always turns up the
36:27
gear when we need to. So even if they're not having
36:30
big games per SE, they're always having big moments from all the
36:34
guys. And from what I saw from this
36:36
game, and I'm looking at both the stats on both sides, we're
36:39
starting to play Miles Turner off the court.
36:42
We're starting to play Aaron Nesmith off the court.
36:45
We're starting to play Obi Topping off the court.
36:48
And the reason for that is is because one, they can't get
36:52
enough offense because of how much we're locking them up.
36:55
Their coach isn't their coach is starting to wane trust in some
36:59
of the starting level guys that they have.
37:01
Like I saw that tonight, like he didn't trust Aaron Nesmith on
37:05
either J Dub or Shay. He had to pull him.
37:08
He didn't trust. He hasn't trust Miles Turner all
37:11
series really. He's been playing him lower
37:14
minutes than he should be. Probably deserving an NBA final
37:17
situation being a 10 year vet. The fact that he's going towards
37:22
deep into his bench, playing a guy like Tony Bradley tells you
37:25
how bad the situation is in the front court.
37:29
Well, yeah, of course we're great with it.
37:31
But you can see his mentality. That's what I knew his mentality
37:35
was. Dang, we're really losing this
37:36
front court battle to Chet and Hartenstein.
37:40
And there's two things that win championships, defense and
37:45
rebounds. And right now we're just out
37:48
hustling on boards in general and we're just out defending
37:51
them. And they just don't have enough
37:54
personnel to throw at the two stars that we have.
37:57
And they don't have any stars. And that's really the defining
38:00
part of this series. They have one.
38:03
They don't have a star. That's crazy.
38:05
They have one star. Come on.
38:07
Here you go. He's checking out.
38:10
Brother, if you can't get more than 20 points in an NBA series,
38:14
like don't talk to me, don't talk to me.
38:18
Come on man. Don't talk to me.
38:21
Sorry bro, I'm I'm. Here.
38:22
We go here we go with Dave. He's having worse series than
38:25
Caruso offensively. Come on bro.
38:27
You're asking for him to hit a buzzer on Thursday.
38:30
I don't care all. Right.
38:33
I will care a lot. I'll say if OKC role players can
38:38
hit shots to keep us in the game, I could.
38:40
I have enough trust in Shay and J Dub to close.
38:44
I just got to see what they're doing.
38:46
I gotta like physically see will they do it?
38:49
Not just close, but like I don't even have just the faith and
38:52
then the close. I just have the faith in those
38:53
two to just overwhelm the Pacers.
38:55
I mean, I, I saw a little bit ago the only players to drop 40
39:00
in a finals game that are younger than Shay are Magic
39:03
Johnson, Rick Berry, Russ and Jerry West.
39:06
Like that's insane. J Dub has been getting better
39:08
each game. I'm not saying he's gonna drop
39:09
more than 40, but he's locked in.
39:12
Shay is locked in. It's just a matter of the other
39:15
guys actually doing even a even a fraction of their job just
39:19
good enough to let those guys do their thing.
39:21
Like I'm not worried about that. It's just going to come down to
39:24
if Indiana that that's what I think it's going to come down
39:26
to. If Indiana really shows up,
39:28
they'll fight, but are they going to really show up hard
39:31
enough to take to take the game? Because like, like Sabir was
39:35
saying earlier, we know they're going to show up and they're
39:36
going to make it a close game, but can they actually take the
39:40
game is what I'm, what I'm banking it on?
39:42
Can Hallie show up? Can Siakam perform well enough
39:45
to give them the win? Like it, it's not just going to
39:48
come down to whose role players play better.
39:49
It's going to come down to which team genuinely wants it more.
39:52
And that's a, from the first guy on the bench to the last guy on
39:55
the bench that every single player effects that.
39:57
So yeah, our role players might not all show up perfectly, but
40:01
if our starters cover the slack and our bench players show up
40:04
enough, I I have more faith in us than them.
40:08
That's kind of what happened the past two games essentially, man.
40:10
Like if you look at the wins, that's what's happened.
40:13
We've just had a just enough from our role players, just
40:17
enough for Shay to Curious Home, Jaydub to Curious home, and I
40:21
don't see anything changing whether we're in Indiana or not.
40:26
And we were talking about how chat plays better on the road.
40:28
I mean, chat might come out and have a legacy game himself here.
40:31
I mean, there's so many aspects that could have changed how this
40:35
game went tonight with Caruso, with Dort, with, with Chet with,
40:39
I mean, there there's aspect with Shay hitting more of the
40:42
shots than you normally do. Like we smell blood in the
40:44
water. Are we going to capitalize on
40:46
Game 6 or not? Is the real?
40:47
Question. Can I make another point?
40:49
Can I make another point which I agree with you?
40:52
Gabe Papers. What did I tell you before?
40:56
I don't know if you remember. What did I tell you before the
40:58
series started? I said OK C in.
41:00
I said OK C in five but I know damn.
41:03
Well. But I know damn well since we're
41:05
OK C fans, when we do win the championship, it's going to be
41:08
on the road. On the road because we're OK C
41:12
fans. Nothing.
41:13
Even when shit great happens, it's got to be daunted a little
41:16
bit, right? So I think we're going to get it
41:19
done. If you're Indiana, you're asking
41:21
us are are are role players going to show up?
41:23
If you're Indiana, This is an elimination game, not in the
41:26
playoffs in the NBA Finals. Is Andrew Nemhardt going to show
41:29
up? Is Aaron Nesmith going to show
41:30
up? Is Miles Turner going to?
41:32
I don't have faith in those guys.
41:34
They've been playing good. While you were gone at home.
41:37
Exactly what I said while you were gone.
41:38
Joe, wait. Wait.
41:39
At home, Yeah. I've been I don't care if it's
41:41
home of the road. It's game six NBA Finals when
41:43
you're about. Literally saying exactly what I
41:45
just said. Man, this is this is not just at
41:47
home, this is literally the biggest game of their entire
41:51
basketball. Career and it helps.
41:56
Yeah, it absolutely. On an insurance that's not
41:59
insuring anything, no. Yeah, yeah.
42:00
It's not 100%, but it. Benefits.
42:03
It doesn't help as much as it normally would.
42:05
It helps, but it's not the fact that this is their biggest game
42:09
of their career damn near eliminates the fact that it's a
42:11
home game to me. Like it helps a little bit, but
42:15
it's. Not it's not even that they're
42:16
at home bro, it's. It's like this is, this is,
42:21
yeah, this is going to be. You got to understand, listen
42:23
there pressure's. On them at home, yeah, pressure
42:25
is. On them and when the pressure
42:27
has been on them. They've never been in this spot
42:30
before. They haven't been in this spot.
42:33
I'm listening. Go ahead.
42:34
They haven't been in this spot. And on top of that, like I'm
42:38
stealing the Thunder from Joe and Gabe, they're trying to tell
42:41
you the same thing when it's essentially A neutral situation
42:45
when it's an elimination game. Because truthfully, I'm a firm
42:48
believer in this. Not to sound like an asshole
42:50
because it's probably the one time I will sound like that.
42:54
The game is played on the four corners of the court.
42:57
The fans don't matter, especially when an elimination
42:59
game happens. Elimination game?
43:02
There's a different scenario man.
43:04
You can't count up. Bro listen to this shit.
43:07
They're giving up. They're already giving
43:09
themselves. How are they giving up?
43:10
They're already giving themselves excuses, Carlisle
43:13
just said, Oh Tyrese, it's in 100% but he'll likely play on
43:17
Thursday. They're giving up.
43:19
They're they're, they're mentally, they're checking out.
43:21
They're mentally, they're mentally, I don't think they're
43:24
checking out, but they're. Getting don't, don't, don't
43:26
vouch for that. Oh.
43:26
Listen, I I just said they're not checking out, but they are
43:29
getting, they're getting tired. The pressure is on them and they
43:32
know that pressure is higher than it's ever been in any of
43:36
these guys career other than maybe Siakam since he's been
43:39
here in one one, which is why he'll probably still have a
43:42
really good game. Everybody else the the the fire.
43:46
Never been in a game like this either.
43:48
Right, but it's. He's got the ring.
43:50
If there's less on hand, it's still nerve wracking, but like
43:53
compared to everybody else, I think he will.
43:55
He will be the one that steps through because he's been here.
43:57
He knows what this is like like, but everyone else it that's what
44:01
I'm saying where this game could go really well for us or really
44:04
bad because they're back into this corner where they have to
44:07
be aggressive. They're either going to be
44:09
knocking shit down like crazy or this will be a a blowout.
44:13
I'll even say a blowout really. If they're coming out and
44:16
they're just chucking it up, trying to get shots to fall,
44:18
'cause they're nervous, there's nothing.
44:21
I don't care how good of a coach Rick Carlisle is, he can't fix
44:24
that. No one can fix that.
44:25
So it's gonna come down to if these guys can perform.
44:28
They've shown all year that they can perform in the pressure.
44:30
They can perform, yeah. They've shown it all year.
44:33
They've shown us so much that they've never lost back-to-back
44:35
games. They just lost back-to-back
44:37
games. And now if they lose a third one
44:40
in a row, they are done. They just, yes, the biggest
44:43
game. Tyrese is out.
44:45
Not like that one. Tyrese is not out.
44:47
I didn't mean if Tyrese is banged up and he's playing like
44:50
he did tonight. Is Indiana without him?
44:54
Really with Nemhard, Naismith, McConnell going to step up, win
45:01
this game? I think they can and then bring
45:03
it back to OKC and win. I think they can No, they
45:06
they've brought it to 2:00 tonight.
45:07
I'm. Telling you it's not in the
45:08
stars, bro. They brought it to two until
45:11
Halliburton started effing them up.
45:12
But. They had.
45:14
I hope I'm wrong. Bro I hope I'm.
45:16
Wrong. No.
45:17
Listen, I hope I'm wrong. But if I really get away the.
45:19
Way I know Indiana. We got to get away from the
45:22
Indiana role players. Let's move back over to the
45:25
Thunder, man. This is a Thunder podcast.
45:27
Players that average 35 and five in a 20 plus game playoff run,
45:32
Jokic, Giannis, LeBron, Kobe, MJ and now Shay Gil.
45:36
Just Alexander baby, let's go game #6 is coming up.
45:41
I'm pumped up as ever. Like neither of the franchises
45:45
have been in this spot in their whole time of being there man.
45:50
Like come on, this, this is it. This is huge.
45:53
And when you need someone to show up, you trust the best
45:57
player in the league. You always do that.
45:59
And that's how you win games, man.
46:02
That's how that's how you win games.
46:04
Capers. We can talk about all the other
46:05
stuff. That's it.
46:08
It's it's that simple sometimes. We outmanned them defensively
46:13
and we have the best offensive talent the league has seen since
46:17
Kobe Bryant. What do you want the Pacers fans
46:21
to do? James Harden?
46:23
No, he's better than James Harden.
46:27
It it's the, the, the moral of this entire thing is OK C you
46:31
just absolutely flipped momentum.
46:33
It OK C is rolling. The momentum has been shifted.
46:36
This was the biggest game on. Indiana.
46:39
Yes, this. This was the.
46:40
Biggest game we've witnessed. And then what do you always?
46:42
Say. Big game, Lou, Big game.
46:47
Here. Did you try?
46:49
No. I trust Lou, though.
46:49
I'm not going to ask that. I do.
46:51
I know I'm not going to ask that question.
46:52
I do trust Lou, so I'm never going to ask that.
46:53
But he. Just has.
46:54
He's got that. He's had big games back-to-back
46:56
to back games, honestly. Yeah, and when you need Lou,
46:59
he's always there anyway, so I'm not even going to ask that.
47:01
But I don't know. I don't.
47:04
Know he's always there man 3 for. 6.
47:07
And crazy on defense like he's he's single handedly taken out
47:11
Tyrese and whole game like. He's not game where he had like
47:15
4 threes and 1/4. And you know, it's funny, we're
47:18
talking about Tyrese being Hanford.
47:20
He looked pretty fine to me when he came back in the fourth
47:23
quarter. He.
47:25
Was the Lou hate on social media is getting crazy bro.
47:29
I'm seeing so much hate towards Lou saying that he's like a
47:32
super dirty player. It's crazy bro.
47:35
That's what happens. When you're it's just physical
47:38
defense, people act like that's not a thing anymore.
47:41
You should have watched basketball in the 90s and let me
47:43
know if every player's dirty, bro.
47:45
Because they're not, dude. It's just good defense.
47:48
That's what happens when a guy's physical.
47:50
People protect Draymond more than they protect Lou Dort,
47:53
which is hilarious. Which is crazy, crazy dude.
47:57
Draymond, come on, man. I cannot.
48:02
I cannot. I still can't believe we're in
48:05
this position, man. That's this.
48:07
They got us technically farther than Russ and KD technically.
48:11
They already did that last game. Last game.
48:13
Yeah, and now they're 2. That's just a crazy thing to
48:16
think about. That is a crazy thing to think.
48:17
And it won't matter until they win it.
48:19
Until they win it. One more, one more.
48:22
One more. This is crazy guys.
48:25
I'm not. Oh, you gotta watch game seven.
48:27
I'm not. Yeah, all you got to do is.
48:29
If he goes to Game 7 we'll be fine bro.
48:31
Still, I ain't got that I'm. Not trying to be there bro.
48:36
That's true. Yeah.
48:37
We got to, we got to finish them out while we can, hopefully.
48:40
We can get up Thursday. Yeah, I'm looking through if
48:43
there's any other stats to mention here, but honestly,
48:48
this, this was hey, you guys remember the 2022 draft?
48:52
We got the two best players in that draft, to be honest.
48:54
Yeah, we did J Dub. That's crazy to think about,
48:57
right? We had to redraft.
48:58
I'm sure J Dub would go #1 Chet would still go #2 in that draft
49:05
'cause he was art. Like he was definitely the best
49:07
defensive player in that draft. And then J Dub's probably the
49:10
best all around player you could if you had to do a redraft right
49:13
now. So Sam Presti pretty much
49:15
drafted one and two right there, man Ridiculous. 1719262737 Well
49:26
that was at the time, but you end up with 40s.
49:28
So he's a dog man? This is what SGA post game had
49:35
to say about Jalen Williams. He does so many things for us as
49:38
a basketball team. He was great tonight.
49:41
Makes a world of a difference. He was really gutsy tonight.
49:44
We saw Shay do something really peculiar on their sets that they
49:49
like to run with the two man game.
49:50
With the guard play, he passed it out to J Dub in the last
49:54
couple seconds of certain plays where normally that's the that's
49:59
the play call for Shay right there.
50:01
He goes into his mid range, he goes to the lane, does whatever
50:04
he wants. He trusted J Dub to hit those
50:07
shots. Even when J Dub missed that one,
50:09
he still went back to him on other plays.
50:11
So that's what I thought when when MVP level player is giving
50:15
you that much respect in one of the most must win games or
50:20
biggest games ever. Like it's huge respect.
50:25
What's y'all over under on J Dub winning an MVP within these next
50:29
three years? Under.
50:31
If he stays on OK. If he stays on OK C, he can't
50:34
win 1. Yeah, I agree with that.
50:35
I. Don't think he can.
50:36
I can. I think he can win one in OK C.
50:39
No, not when he's the second option.
50:41
He'll never be come. Here, come on.
50:44
No, no, Hear me out. Hear me out.
50:45
Hear me out, hear. Me out, hear me.
50:48
Out. Because I think from what I'm
50:52
saying with his size, versatility, ball handling, he's
50:56
a guy that can probably get he himself can average 30 points at
51:00
some point. So he's.
51:01
Got 1 MVP here though bro. He can't be the second.
51:06
You can't be the second fiddle and and win MVP.
51:08
I don't think he's the second fiddle type of player though.
51:10
That's what. I'm trying to he isn't, but on
51:12
OPC he has to be. There I don't think.
51:15
I truly don't believe. I truly don't believe we could
51:17
have two guys averaging 30 plus. I don't, I don't think.
51:20
I think so. If we did that, we are truly a
51:23
dynasty and we are not losing again.
51:25
Honestly shake could average 30 plus.
51:28
OK. Capers.
51:32
Capers believes that, but he doesn't believe J dub can
51:34
average 30 along. The Honest and Shake can average
51:36
30. No J Dub and.
51:39
Shake I think J Dub could get to the point where he's capers.
51:42
I'm I'm a dead ass. Next time you say that shit you
51:44
out here bro. You can't have that on the pod
51:47
bro. You always be watching this
51:49
shit. I promise you.
51:51
I promise you they'd be watching this.
51:53
I'm gonna let you know. I'm gonna let you know right now
51:55
they'd be watching this. I know for.
51:57
A fact they do. They.
52:01
Know man, shout out Jada. Good save, Good save.
52:06
Oh man. I'm talking here.
52:09
Because I told you, well, I'm glad, I'm glad we're having the,
52:12
the recap we're having right now instead of, I mean, this could
52:15
have been, this could have been pretty, pretty detrimental here.
52:18
We could have been it. Got a little scary at one point
52:20
in the game, it got a little spooky, but then they went they
52:23
went to just normal. J Dub stepped it up.
52:25
J Dub stepped up. Yeah.
52:27
Not that he stepped up, he was up full game, but still, it's
52:30
crazy. Yeah, that's.
52:31
True, that's true. And lost two consecutive since
52:33
March 10th. Wow.
52:36
Here I got a quick question for you guys, 'cause I think the
52:38
only two men like duo that can compare to us right now is
52:46
Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum. Who would you rather take
52:50
between that duo versus this one?
52:52
No, come on. It's a real.
52:55
Question a question it's. Shay and J dub Hey, I'm asking
53:00
you know it's Shay and J dub because you want to have the.
53:02
Best player? What about if Shay keeps his
53:04
left hand tied behind his back for half again?
53:07
I'll take Shay and J dub. OK, yeah, that's fair.
53:10
I'd still take. It's kind of just evens out
53:13
Jaylen Brown and. Shay.
53:14
No, you're right. Because he just can't even use
53:16
his lap. You're right.
53:16
I didn't even think about that too.
53:18
Shoot. My bad.
53:19
No, you're right. You're not a bad guy.
53:20
That was a bad question. It just appeared on the
53:22
timeline. I saw a Celtics fan ask it and I
53:24
was like, might as well throw it in here.
53:26
You know, throw it to the show. It's not even close because Shay
53:32
went into Boston this year and won without J Dub.
53:35
That's true. That is.
53:37
True dude. I can't.
53:38
I can't believe it man. Like we've dominated teams 68
53:42
wins without practically check for most of the season healthy.
53:46
And when he did get healthy, he was like not fully even 100%,
53:49
closer to like 60 or 75%. He was on pace for big numbers.
53:54
Oh yeah, he was having 20 every game.
53:56
Yeah, yeah, he was on pace to be an All Star like.
54:00
There is one more thing I do want to point out about J Dub
54:02
that I just recalled. About when?
54:04
About the draft, around the draft time.
54:07
A month before the draft, J Dub had to go in to participate in
54:11
the scrimmage to try to fit in as a first round pick.
54:14
He had to do the scrimmage with the first rounders to try to fit
54:17
in to show that he was a first round draft pick.
54:19
That's crazy bro. That is interesting.
54:23
Poku sprained in his ankle or whatever injury he got was the
54:26
best thing that could have happened to J Dub man.
54:29
Dude out of Santa Clara just dropped 40 in the finals game.
54:32
In the finals, yeah. Shout out J Doe, man.
54:35
It's. Crazy bro and shout out shout
54:37
out Presti for recognizing. And presti bro.
54:40
Well, Presti's noted, regardless, that man needs a
54:45
statue. Yeah, that's crazy bro.
54:47
This is the part where Joe says he doesn't get a statue until we
54:50
win. He.
54:51
Doesn't I want no statues until there's something to show for
54:54
it? Fuck it.
54:55
Fair enough. I can't wait to do the live on
54:59
Thursday. Dude, yo.
55:03
Oh my goodness. Yeah, I I hope, I hope I agree
55:06
with that statement. Whoa, What the?
55:08
Fuck, no, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling it, man.
55:10
I'm feeling it right now. Like let's something there.
55:15
There's something about this team that's a little different.
55:18
It's been like that all. Year.
55:20
There's got to be one more time, one more time.
55:23
There this is a magical run special run not just as Thunder
55:27
fans, but like if you're ANBA fan of any other team and you're
55:31
just watching this team, this is exactly what happened with the
55:34
Russell Westbrook, James Harden, KD.
55:36
Let's say like you're a younger guy and you haven't chosen
55:38
A-Team. You could be like me right now
55:41
where you know your baby sat veer and you're like whoa, like
55:45
I'm seeing 2 Goats in the NBA Finals.
55:49
Go at it and you see Russell Westbrook just dropped 40
55:53
essentially J Dub and boom, you become a fan.
55:58
And I think that's like the beautiful part about the game,
56:00
man. Except 90% of the fan base hates
56:04
us so. Yeah, of course it's different.
56:07
It's different than it was. That's why we need the win.
56:11
No way I I don't give a I'll I'll gladly.
56:14
I was hearing someone the other day one of my buddies was
56:16
talking about the chiefs and I was like I'd gladly become the
56:19
chiefs of the NBA. Bro I don't give a damn if we if
56:23
we start winning everyone can hate.
56:26
Just just let us win 1 though. Let us go.
56:28
He's got. To have 30 on Thursday.
56:30
I think all of us will be, all of us will be crying on Live
56:34
Texan. Like if we're not weeping, I'll
56:37
be on the ground just. I don't even know if I'll be
56:39
able to get to a line. We'll probably have like a
56:41
stroke or something. If I if I die cheering because
56:45
we won the finals, it was worth it.
56:47
God. Would take no yeah I'd be so
56:49
ironic because like all the shit we've been through we we're
56:51
still alive and Dame must be there the injuries and.
56:56
Like a heart attack because it's a one point game.
56:58
Yeah, we we won the game on us. I'm going to, I'm going to throw
57:01
up thinking about it. You know who I want to have on
57:04
this live? I want to send a random invite
57:08
to Patrick Beverley just because of how he ruined that one run
57:13
that we had with Russell Westbrook.
57:16
And I want him to watch us cheer for this team, like win this on
57:22
Thursday. I'm going to send the DM
57:24
straight to freaking Instagram. Man, you got to you got to want
57:27
Kevin Durant on here, not Pat Bev.
57:30
Nah. Durant.
57:31
Kevin Durant don't get none of this.
57:33
He don't even deserve a spot. Durant prefers San Antonio and.
57:38
He's closer to a waterboy than anything.
57:41
He can go get Steph Curry's water for him real quick.
57:45
I'm good, man. That's crazy.
57:49
Well, I mean, if you guys are good, I think we could probably
57:51
wrap up here unless anyone else got something they want to throw
57:53
in. I mean, I feel.
57:55
Like I can take, I can take 30 more digs at KD if you guys
57:59
want. Not yet, Not yet.
58:05
Two more days take I'll. Still take them. 60 of them.
58:08
Still take them. Yeah, that's got nothing to do
58:11
with winning. That's just part of being a
58:12
Thunder fan. Yeah, yeah.
58:15
Yeah, that's nothing to do. You got to take a few at least.
58:18
Yeah, I, I, I managed to get like at least one, a freaking
58:21
episode at least. Keeping track of how many in a
58:25
row. Yeah, we should get a savvier KD
58:28
hate tracker. Yeah, I'm going to start going
58:32
through all our episodes and. So it's going to be like Shay
58:36
averaging 30A game for real. All right, well, OK C fans,
58:41
thank you guys for sticking around even if you're not an OK
58:44
C fan. Once again, thanks for the
58:45
comments. Thank you guys for for hopping
58:47
into the live once again representing OK C for sure.
58:52
One more guys, one more, one more baby, one more game.
58:58
That's it guys. Thunder and 6.
59:01
Thunder and 6 for sure without winning you at home.
59:03
It always has man, Thunder and six.
59:05
It always has, man. Appreciate you guys man.
59:08
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59:13
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59:15
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59:24
Caper's a bitch for shitting on J dub like that and.
59:29
Just. Disappeared.