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Exposing the Forbidden Tech Secretly Controlling Mankind... & Why It Will Fail · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. As you very well know, one of the big topics I'm talking about is the war against us. Now the war is multifaceted, whether it's the banker war, the war of the CCP, the war of the globalists. And so today, I'm gonna be talking to Hope Girl, who you've probably seen.
• 0:20
  I know she's a regular with SGT reports, some of the bigger podcasts. And we're gonna be talking about an aspect of the war that I'm very fascinated with. I think it's very important, which is the war of technology, which is the transhumanism war. It's a war of putting nanotech into our bodies that can be controlled remotely, where they can tap into things. So this is a conversation that will be reminiscent of maybe some of my talks with Robert Young or Todd Callender talking about the actual technology that's being used against us, but also why the technology is failing, why the end goal of the technology will fail, and what we can do to stop the technology and to lessen its effects on us.
• 1:02
  So, folks, please enjoy the interview with Hope Girl. Folks, I have a quick message for you. Look. The twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way.
• 1:20
  And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year and this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's going to get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously.
• 2:01
  Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food. So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family. So folks today, go to heavensharvest.com and make sure you get your store will food that'll last for up to twenty five years. Just in case things go south, you know that you have what's gonna take to feed your family, which is so so critical for us to get through this next stage of history.
• 2:36
  So go to heavensharvest.com today, order your food that lasts up to twenty five years and use promo code Seth to save 15% on your entire order. Again, that's heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth, s e t h, to save 15% on your entire order. Hope it is a pleasure and an honor to finally have you on the show. As I mentioned before we started recording, I feel like you and I've been going to the same bar for like five years that we've never actually bumped into each other. And we're doing a lot of the same shows covering a lot of same topics.
• 3:09
  And it feels like we should have been doing this a year or two ago. But here we are. And thank you so much for being here.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: It is so exciting to be here with you, Seth. Because, yes, we haven't gone to the same bar and we haven't ran into each other. But I've been I've been watching your shows and your amazing interviews and sharing your work on my blog for years now. So it's such an honor and a privilege to be here with you.
• 3:32
  Seth Holehouse: Also, I gotta give you a hello from my wife, Kate, who I consistently hear her, you know, you on the background when she's listening to you and Tavon, and she's she was so excited. Hey, I'm having Hope Girl on the show. And she was really? And she was so excited. She's you gotta tell Hope that I say hello because she's a big fan.
• 3:49
  She's bought some of your products before. So I gotta throw that out there as well.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, that is awesome. Hello, back to you. And congratulations on both of you for the new addition to your family.
• 3:59
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you. Thank you. So diving right in, I've I'd probably say one of the themes that I regularly talk about is the war against us, and there's a lot of different wars. There's the war of the Bolsheviks and the communists and the infiltration of our country, and there's wars with, you know, KGB, CCP with the you know, those types of wars. There's the financial wars with the bankers and the currency wars, but there's also the spiritual war, which I talk about quite a lot of the, you know, the battle of good and evil.
• 4:30
  But I also have done quite a lot of interviews, and it's the kind of war that I think is one that is not easy for a lot of people to grasp and talk about, but it's the it's almost it's where the spiritual war meets the physical war. It's the war on our DNA. It's the war on our bodies, on our physical bodies at a at a nano and even deeper level. And this is a war that you've studied extensively, and you've experienced. You know, you've you've experienced these weapons pointed against you know, pointed at you, and you developed ways of counteracting that.
• 5:05
  And so I guess I'll just hand it over to you and just say, where do you want to start in this discussion? Because I think it's this is the war that we have to be talking more about, and you are one of the experts in this.
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Let me let me just start by telling everybody a tiny bit about like my where I come from and how I got into doing this particular research. So I used like a long time ago, like in another life, I used to work in corporate and I left corporate to do like my own thing online. And part of that was my family, we open sourced a free energy device. So we're a family of engineers and scientists and business professionals.
• 5:48
  And we so we were in the energy industry in the energy world, talking about technology and that from that field, met my husband who was also an engineer. And because what we were doing was, it was against the status quo, you know, to open source a free energy device, we got targeted by all different sorts of like government programs and things like that. And part of that targeting was electronic weapons. Right? I'm sure you've heard all about those.
• 6:17
  Right? So that and also like covert online targeting as well. So that was our tribulation that we came through and it lasted for years. And through that process, we also became Christians. We came back to God during that time.
• 6:36
  And God started working with us and showing us like you wanted us to research the industry. You wanted us to research what was what was happening to us and what was being done to us. So that is where all of this information that we ever present on our websites, on shows, that's where it comes from. My husband is a Navy technician, so he's got that technical brain and I have more of the business background. But basically we've been researching this industry for years now and we're really concerned about the technology, the the new emerging technologies that are being unleashed on society that are basically destroying God's creation.
• 7:17
  And so we feel like we've been given an insight from God when we're when we're when we're reading the white papers from the IEEE and we're seeing the the new advancements in technology and because they always come across as this stuff is so advanced and it's so innovative, but in truth, it's very harmful and it's destroying humanity. So we feel like it's our mission to just do the best that we can to communicate this complex world of technology to average people. So people can understand what's being done to us, in simpler terms that people can can grasp.
• 7:58
  Seth Holehouse: Which is really important because a lot of people are quick to point at, say, Claus Schwab or, you know, Harari and say, look at them and talk about, you know, humans being hackable animals. And, obviously, that's a big part of the transhuman agenda. But when you mention this technology, I think that's it's one of the the key facets and the key weapons is actually technology, and it's not from my own research. It's not technology that we're that we're used to seeing. It's technology that's tied to what I think stuff that's come from, you know, off planet technology that that's come through through, you know, who knows what kind of realms and interactions.
• 8:35
  It's spiritual technology. It's technology that I think that is hidden technology, you know, things that are tapping into, you know, things the Egyptians might have understood, or the Mayans perhaps that have been hidden from us so they could use Mhmm. These weapons against us. It's not just a technology of, say, you know, Operation Mockingbird and controlling the media, like, and censoring us online and using Google to sway elections. Obviously, there's that technology, but this is much deeper and much more profound.
• 9:04
  And so when you describe this technology, what do you think is probably, what is the pinnacle of this? What is one of the the key aspects that you think is the most important for us to understand about the technology that's being used against us?
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: Well, just in general, technology you're you're absolutely right, by the way, as far as, you know, this technology is just it's tapping into things like natural phenomenon, things that the Egyptians had access to. Technology is what it is. It nest it isn't necessarily good or bad. Right? Because technology or like science is just the study of how God does business and and certain phenomenons.
• 9:43
  But the we've been, like, actually wrote a book and the name of our book was Forbidden Tech. Right? Because we're talking about all these different types of hidden technologies that they don't want you to know about. So what we want people to understand is that you're not too stupid to understand what this technology is. All you need to do is just slow down and look into it, and you can see, okay.
• 10:10
  This technology goes against the natural creation and order of things against god, or this technology is actually helping people and humanity, in the world. Right? So that's that's really all it is. But it's being presented as good and it's also being like, you know, Klaus Schwab, as you said. Right?
• 10:33
  So it's being presented by people like Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum as being something that is very good, because it's innovative. But what I've noticed is that they always cut God out when they're talking about their technologies and that's not what it's supposed to be. Technologies are supposed to be here to to help us. And there are plenty of technologies that you can use, that would be helpful for you that that God will bless. Right?
• 11:02
  So that I just want people to make the delineation between it's not the tech, it's the people behind it. It's the energy and the spirit behind it.
• 11:10
  Seth Holehouse: You can almost make the same argument for guns as an example. That Yeah. Guns can play like, I could use a gun to protect my child playing in the backyard from a bear. Right? Like, that's a Right.
• 11:21
  That's technology being used for good, but I could also use a gun to rob a liquor store. Right? So it it it to simplify it. So with that, what is what would you say is one of the main technologies that is being used against us?
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: Right. So what we're talking about here is parked under the title emerging technologies. So if you were to go to Wikipedia and you type in emerging technologies, on the left hand side of that page, you will see this humongous suite of all these different technologies. Like a few a few of them is nanotechnology, gene therapies, artificial intelligence, DARPA. I mean So right here.
• 12:04
  Yep. There you go. Let's see. All of those technologies are transhumanism. Interesting.
• 12:10
  Under transhumanism. So what that's what we're talking about this humongous suite of emerging technologies. And that's the language that you'll see them use in the industry when they're writing articles and they're talking about the latest advancements in metamaterials, it's all under emerging technology. So that is what we want to bring to people's attention. And that's what you have to look out for.
• 12:37
  And it's most of this is not good. Most of this stuff is not good for humanity. And it's being cloaked as if it were good.
• 12:46
  Seth Holehouse: And and so let's let's dive into what is some of this technology.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, let me try to explain like one of the core components, which is the wireless body area network. I'll start there because this
• 12:58
  Seth Holehouse: is
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: so
• 12:58
  Seth Holehouse: WBAN.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: WBAN, right? WBAN wireless body area network. Essentially what that is, and it's been worked on for decades now, is that they are running computer networking through human bodies. So your body, your human body has become a node on a network that they transmit data through. They also harvest energy from your body in order to operate and run this network.
• 13:28
  So if you were again to go to a search engine or Google and you type in wireless body area network, you will find hundreds and hundreds of graphics talking about the W band, just finding what it is. This information is coming from the IEEE which is the organization that creates the standards for all these technologies and your internet standards, right? There you go. A whole bunch of images. That's the wireless body area network.
• 13:58
  And it's been what they do is they have little biosensors inside of your bodies. They've been developing biosensors since 1956 and they how did they get the biosensors in me? Maybe it was through childhood vaccinations. Maybe they sprayed it in the air in the chemtrails, maybe it's in the water supply, in the food. They've been putting biosensors out there to get biosensors inside of human bodies without a person's knowledge or consent.
• 14:30
  That wireless body area network is running through those biosensors. That's how the whole thing operates. So basically With that.
• 14:38
  Seth Holehouse: And I'll do these quick interruptions and make sure I'm I'm keeping up with you.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No.
• 14:42
  Seth Holehouse: And I'll I'll I'll reframe your concepts and like my third grade perspective of it. Right? And saying that
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Right. So
• 14:48
  Seth Holehouse: basically, there's these little nodes that are these sensors that are microscopic. They're tiny. Right? They're not like, I'm not swallowing this little computer chip, right, on accident.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: They're nano. They're nano sized.
• 15:00
  Seth Holehouse: And so
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: They're in the interstitial fluid between your cells.
• 15:04
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. And and so these sensors, so hypothetically, say, through a chemtrail, that a plane can fly over, and it's dumping chemicals. We know they're dumping, you know, aluminum oxide in in various metals and whatnot. But they can also be dumping dumping these nanotech, these biosensors, which even if I don't go outside and breathe that air on that day, maybe the that nanotech falls on the lettuce I'm growing. And three days later, I'm eating my lettuce, and I'm actually consuming their biosensors, which then it's really turning my body into some sort of hybrid, you know, machine of it's it's an organic machine.
• 15:46
  It's organic plus inorganic, you know, right, that is then turning my body into something that's a computer. Is that the correct way of understanding it?
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Yes. And there's there's, like, at least four different kinds of biosensors. And one of those biosensors is it's a it's a synthetic biology. So it's it's part computer and then it uses your DNA to make the rest of it inside of your body. It's really this is the days of Noah.
• 16:16
  This is the stuff written in the book of Enoch where they were blending species and they were merging and they're they're clipping and snipping your your DNA and replacing it with whose DNA? Whose whose DNA is the mRNA? Right? So this is this is what's happening on that nanoscale level in that in that nanoworld that you can't see.
• 16:38
  Seth Holehouse: Okay.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the other the other part of the biosensor so so I'm trying to describe, like, the whole network, the bigger grid. Right? So I'm gonna I'm gonna trace it from the biosensor inside you all the way up to the satellites.
• 16:54
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• 18:02
  Speaker 2: So I want to first, I wanna back up a little bit, and I need to explain the biofields. Right? So if you need the government definition of what it is, you can look it up on the NIH website. It's there. Or maybe even the aura, but our bodies are electrical.
• 18:21
  That's how our bodies are made. Right? We all have an electric field in our body. We our bodies are on the electromagnetic spectrum, and we do have a biofield. It the knowledge about learning about the biofield has been removed from our society since 1910.
• 18:38
  It was taken out in the Flexner Report. So we're not allowed to learn about our body's natural electric field that we have. Instead, it's been hidden in academia all of these years, and they've been using it. They they basically have the emerging technologies industry has hijacked the natural biofields of human beings and they're using our biofields to power their technology. So now that we understand that we all have a biofield, right, then and that's what they're using for their energy and their transmission of data.
• 19:15
  What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take us all through from the the biosensor all the way through the network up to the satellites. Right? So they can see the so you could see the network and you can see the grid. So we have the biosensors inside of our bodies. And then right outside of our bodies in the environment around us, everywhere is completely saturated with something called metamaterials.
• 19:41
  Again, these are all terms you can look up. Metamaterials defines the suite of nanotechnologies that have recently been deployed as as recent as 2017. So, basically, they're like little tiny nanoscale antennas. That's where the graphene oxide comes into play. These are, think of it as if they had they had to saturate the environment around our bodies and around our worlds so that they could run their signal over all those little antennas.
• 20:15
  Okay? So that's metamaterials. Then from the metamaterials, they're connected to, nanosatellites or cube satellites also, right, in space. And then there's low Earth orbit satellites, which, again, in 2017, that's a very important year, a whole bunch of satellites were put up into space to help to connect this network. Right?
• 20:38
  And so from those satellites and all of this, this is the really sad, scary part, is connected to an autonomous weapons system run by the government. Okay? So that that's that's the global information grid. So they're basically tracking and tracing you through this grid. They can they can see your body.
• 21:00
  They can they can pull energy from you, And they can write energy to you, they can write things to you. Okay, so it's it's a two way communication.
• 21:11
  Seth Holehouse: So basically, all this discussion of say, the NSA spying on us of the I guess, a lot of what we're talking about with government surveillance and tracking and, you know, say vaccine passports and using our smartphones. It is it I mean, it sounds like almost that, like, that is all a red herring because the system's already in place, and that they can already track us. They already know exactly where we are. The same way that if I lose, say, an iPad, I can go on to find my phone or whatever, and I can say, oh, that iPad is in this, or and I can even send a signal to it and make it play a noise like, oh, it's it's in my my glove box in the car or whatever. So it's like, they've already got all this stuff, if I'm understanding correctly.
• 22:02
  And I know that anything you tell me, I know that it's backed with research. And I know that if we have a lot of time, we could go and look at all the PDFs and the patents and all this. So basically, if I can't understand correctly that all of this that you're talking about connects up to this central database that there's this autonomous weapon that they can pull energy and send energy that through this system, they know exactly where Seth Holehouse is. They know exactly where hope is. They know because we're the same way.
• 22:33
  Again, you can trace where a digital advice is. It's connected to a network. So
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's Now one thing one thing they do, Seth, the industry is notorious for they will tell you that the technology's not here yet, that it's coming maybe one day far in the future. Right? And they'll they'll put on these big fancy presentations where it's like, you know, this big conference and people are flying in so they could talk about the innovations of the future. And they're very dry and boring, and they get very few views on YouTube.
• 23:09
  Okay? And they don't get taken down off of YouTube. Right? But so they'll they'll put them out there and they'll say it's in the future. It's not here yet.
• 23:19
  But in actuality, they've already had it developed and deployed decades ago. Biosensors, 1956. The wireless body area network, 1995. Now I want to tell you something about the year 2017 because this is very important for people to understand. And I just came to this realization like six months ago is when I discovered this through following some great work of other people who are studying this industry.
• 23:50
  2017, they actually deployed something called the cyber physical backbone, and that is the fourth industrial revolution. There's a paper from the IEEE that says it's the cyber physical backbone, the backbone to the fourth industrial revolution. And, yes, like you said, everything I'm mentioning here, we have been documenting this. I've got links to all these papers in so many of our presentations all over our website. Right?
• 24:19
  There you go. So that's it. That's the paper. It was is it 2017? I can Anyway, Here
• 24:31
  Seth Holehouse: it says 2018, but 2018 might have been when it was published to this
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: particular So what happened in 2017 is that the industry was given the go ahead to upgrade all the technology in their infrastructure. So it's like going from dial up to broadband as far as this emerging technology is concerned. That is the year when they deployed hundreds and thousands of papers for metamaterials. Right? The professor Ian Achilles, who's like the leader in the industry for metamaterials, the Internet of Things, the Internet of Bodies, the Internet of Nano Things, that's professor Ian Achildes and all of his work.
• 25:15
  He tried to put out metamaterials patents back in like twenty two thousand and nine, I think. And the CIA held back his patent and said, you're not allowed to we're not going to issue the patent. They made him wait like almost ten years. And then on in 2017, they're like, now, Now everybody can have patents on metamaterials inventions. And they deployed all the metamaterials technology in 2017.
• 25:43
  That was the same year if you look at the UN report about space wars, I think it was. Right? You'll see that was the year when suddenly thousands and thousands and thousands of satellites were launched up into space. That was to set up that grid. Right?
• 26:01
  Now it is our strong opinion, educated opinion, that COVID and the injections was the load balancing, was part of the upgrade of that system. And let me explain what I mean by that. So there is technology and all different kinds of stuff in the COVID injections as as we've seen. Right? That graphene is just part of it.
• 26:27
  They put everything in there. Right? That technology inside of those injections was needed in order to get their signal to go across that network. It was to complete the upgrade for this giant mesh network. And you say, well, you know, why?
• 26:44
  Because before this upgrade, there was all different kinds of problems with the technology and you can watch their conferences and they'll say, oh, you know, these are the obstacles we came up with when we were trying to develop this new technology. Beamforming wasn't working, distance wasn't working, like all these different things that they say, were their obstacles. So they needed to upgrade so they can get a stronger signal so that their technology would work better. And they needed the technology to be inside of people's bodies through injections, which is different than bioaccumulation of stuff in the atmosphere. It's different.
• 27:20
  Obviously, it's stronger. And so we think that COVID and the injections was the completion of the system upgrade.
• 27:30
  Seth Holehouse: So basically, they've been they've been getting this technology into our bodies for decades, whether it's through our water, chemtrails, food, you name it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 27:41
  Seth Holehouse: Okay? And but they I'm guessing and and inferencing that that the ways they were getting it into us wasn't enough to to bring their system to full operation, basically.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 27:55
  Seth Holehouse: And so they needed to create, and they probably saw this years and years in advance, that they would need to create some sort of campaign that would enable them to directly inject a payload of fourth industrial revolution transhumanist technology into as many bodies as possible on this Earth. And so it which this really changes even the narrative the narrative of the injections is that a lot of people are saying, oh, it's a depopulation thing, and they're gonna use these injections to wipe out, you know, you know, billions of people. But That was part of it. Which makes sense. Okay.
• 28:34
  That was part of it. But this to me seems like actually the more sinister thing is that it it's it's it's actually installing this operating system only it's not it's not actually just an operating system. The operating system is a digital program. This is installing the hardware that the injections installed all of the hardware needed to basically turn this system on to full go. Right?
• 28:55
  Is that accurate in your understanding?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, because when when you look at this information that we just shared here, and it's like, okay, so where do they want this to go? If you have to think in the mind of the of the enemy of like, you know, what are they trying to do here? So yes, pop depopulation was part of their agenda, but the ultimate goal is population control. They can't control seven, eight billion people.
• 29:23
  Right? So they need to be able to, like, literally physically control. Like, your body is now hooked up to this network and you're like a puppet on a string And they can control you. They can they have something called the Internet of behaviors even.
• 29:36
  Seth Holehouse: Is basically It's it's taking away free will. To because free will, I think, is God's is what God gave us.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It's taking away free will.
• 29:43
  Seth Holehouse: Most important thing God gave us, which is free will.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And so
• 29:48
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• 30:12
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• 30:50
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• 30:56
  Speaker 2: The population control what they're was what they're going after, and all of this is leading to that fifteen minute city, you know, where basically, there's a military strategy called the kill box where the military will go in. They'll set up, like, an an area, then they'll do an operation in the area, kill whatever, and then they'll dismantle it and go set it up someplace else. They've turned your home into a kill box with this technology. They're turning cities and into kill boxes so that they can control, they can kill off who they want, they can depopulate who they want, anybody that survives having this technology in them because it's it's hitting people differently. Right?
• 31:40
  Not everybody is dying. Some people are like, I'm just fine. Did I get the saline? Right? But but, no, we've all got something going on in us.
• 31:50
  And so there really is this battle of good and evil that's happening inside of our bodies at this point in in time. So that's the ultimate goal is population control, I believe. But I also believe in God. I also believe that God is, in charge of all this, that he's always in control and on his throne. And you're absolutely right when it comes to free will because we do have a choice.
• 32:17
  And God will never take away that free will choice up to the very end. A lot of people chose to line up and get those injections. A lot of people chose their job over, you know, whatever. And that's between them and God. I still do believe in repentance.
• 32:36
  I believe that God can fix our DNA. I believe these things. Right? But this is the battle. This is this is it.
• 32:43
  This is what we've been told about, Seth, for thousands of years. I I think this is this is what the book of Revelation is really describing is what we're seeing right now before our very eyes.
• 32:54
  Seth Holehouse: And what do you foresee as the end goal? Let let's fast forward to say 2050. And based upon your research and and reading their actual documents, you're not just speculating and having some wild ideas, What does the world look like if their plan is fully executed?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I have to be really honest and say that me and my husband strongly believe that they think that they can do so much more than they're actually able to. So we don't think they're going to succeed. Being like an engineering family, right? There's something called the bench will teach you. So you can think about a device, you can think about a technology, but until you get it on the bench and you turn it on and to see if it works or not, you're not gonna know until that moment.
• 33:50
  So a lot of this is them speculating that they can create these networks, they can control everything, and it's going to be their own, you know, cyborg utopia. But in reality, we see so many loopholes. We see so many problems where they won't be successful in creating this this world that they think they're going to create. However, I do honestly see a lot of death and destruction to get to that point. So I do see that in the future.
• 34:24
  I also see a lot of people being protected. I see I see God protecting his remnant in pockets all over the world, and there are places to go. I mean, you know, Jesus said, flee. And and, you know, if they persecute you here, flee to someplace else, and you won't run out of places to go before I come back. That's what he said.
• 34:47
  Right? So there's gonna be places for people to preserve their lives, people that are doing things like prepping, growing their own food. Like, this is the stuff that you should be doing right now taking care of yourself and your family, making sure you've got security and definitely educating yourself. Getting the knowledge is your most powerful weapon against what they're doing.
• 35:10
  Seth Holehouse: And so we've established that, basically, that there's this and I would imagine everyone watching or listening to this, this technology is already in us, whether we took the vaccine or not. Now maybe if you took the vaccine, it's even stronger. There's even more of it. But if if you breathe the air, if you drink the water, maybe if you live up in the mountains and in some cave, maybe you're then somehow you've avoided it, but you're not watching podcasts on Rumble if you live in the cave. Right?
• 35:43
  So for all of us, it's inside of us and understanding how this all fits together. And while a lot of us been, you know, even focused on central bank digital currency and vaccine passports, which which is a frightening, you know, prospects, this is much more frightening, because this is something that, like, I can't avoid necessarily by, you know, not getting a smartphone or refusing a shot. Right? It's it's it's much more sinister. But there's hope in this.
• 36:10
  Right? Which makes sense coming from you. Right? As hope girl. Right?
• 36:14
  So from your perspective, you're saying that you see all these loopholes, and I and I really do agree with you. That's why I also I also have hope for the future, because I think one of the greatest loopholes is that they believe they're more powerful than God, and that's never worked. Right? That's never worked for man. Whenever man thinks he's more powerful than God, eventually, God comes back and says, okay.
• 36:34
  I'm gonna destroy you now to remind you who's in charge. Right? For those people that have that arrogance and that that that pride. So what are the what are the indicators that you're seeing that this is failing, and that gives you the confidence that they won't be able to achieve their end goal?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I think, okay, a few indicators. First, there's one great example. In Saudi Arabia, they're building this called The Line. I don't know if you've heard of it.
• 37:06
  Seth Holehouse: Yes.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: The Line. Okay. Well, that is such an abysmal failure right now because they had such lofty ideas and they were really arrogant when they were like, we're gonna build a beach that the sand glows in the dark like a like a watch. And they we're gonna have, like, flying vehicles in the city and it's gonna be out in the desert with with no re I mean, just so many crazy there you go. That's it.
• 37:34
  If you look at that, there are so many failures in that. And we think this is a great example of what this particular network, this wireless body area network and their their utopia cities. We think this is an example of where all that stuff is gonna end up. It's gonna be just like this horrendous failure of a project. And I wanted to say that, yes, we do all have, you know, bioaccumulation of these these toxins, these pollutants, biosensors, there's graphene, they've been putting graphene in the water supply in certain places.
• 38:11
  I mean, there's like, it's it's everywhere. We've all got it in us. Right? So just accept that. Okay.
• 38:17
  We're we're dirty. We're falling. Okay? But there are things you can do to mitigate that. There are things you can do to detox those things out.
• 38:26
  Now, I'm not saying you could change your genes back. Right? If you've been genetically modified because you took the injections and, you know, only God can do that. But the other stuff, like, say you didn't get the injections and you were like, I wanna get this stuff out of my body. I don't wanna be easily traceable.
• 38:45
  Think of yourself as a cell phone that doesn't get a good signal. That's what you wanna be. Right? You wanna like, you don't want them to let to get that signal on you. So there's things you can do to get certain things out of your body that are turning you into an antenna so they can't lock a signal on you.
• 39:02
  Like heavy metal detoxes, there's a whole bunch of different protocols you could choose from, one that works for you. Find somebody that knows about that and how to safely, detox heavy metals out of your body. So there are all different kinds of things you can do. We do something with EMF, mitigation for EMF protection products. Let me know when you want me to go into that because I can describe what that's about.
• 39:26
  But those are some of the things you can do to get to to to save yourself during these times when they're trying to get a lock on you. And I think that their technology is not working as well as they wanted it to. And one more thing I want to say about that is that they it's obvious to me when I when I take a big picture of you that they intended a lot more damage than they're getting. Even though a lot of people have died and a lot of people are sick and maimed for life, they intended for more. And something happened where they had to suddenly pull back and they can't seem to get their second pandemic the next one, as Bill Gates says, right?
• 40:11
  They can't get seem to get that rolling. So I kind of think that they they they they did their thing. Like, you know, they they went ahead and they they they did it all at one big shot, and it's done. And that's because they can't get traction again with people. So that's the weaknesses that I see.
• 40:30
  Seth Holehouse: And I've noticed that as well in seeing all the the talk about Marburg, you know, and and the second pandemic, the second round of lockdowns. It does it does seem like that. That's that's what I'm also gathering and just feeling towards the overall situation is that they've they I think they're still dangerous, and and they're still gonna try everything possible to still create a lot of destruction, but it seems like their major big plan of attack wasn't successful, and they they've they're they're not able to carry out whatever the next stages of it are. And so when you you mentioned head and middle detoxes, which it's actually my wife and I getting ready to start one personally. Because I think that obviously, for a lot of reasons.
• 41:14
  You know, we've also we've made a lot of lifestyle decisions. Like, that's something that we you know, five years ago, I was living in a high rise in Manhattan. Okay? So, like, I went from that to now we're living on seven acres surrounded by the forest, and we're, you know, gonna be growing our own food. And and, like, so we've made big lifestyle changes in terms of how we eat, eat organic, going local farm markets, how we're raising our children.
• 41:38
  So we're doing that. Not everyone can do that, though. Some people, you know, because of their circumstances, they're tied to be closer to a city, or they're in suburbia. Or maybe they build up a five g tower a block away from their house, and they can't up and move because interest rates are near 10% for a house, and they can't they can't go through that because of a single five g tower. So I know that you and Tavon have been very proactive in solutions for this.
• 42:04
  And, obviously, you mentioned heavy metal detoxes as one thing. You mentioned prepping. You know, these are things I talk about a lot. Right? Like, my my perspective is make yourself really hard to kill.
• 42:14
  Like, that's how you survive. Make your understand what their kill vectors are. Make yourself really, really hard to kill. So okay, well, they can't starve me. They can't take away all my assets, you know, through digital currency.
• 42:25
  They can't take away my water because I've got, you know, a hand well, and I've got these other things I've done. I'm harvesting rainwater, whatever it is. But what are some other things that you've worked on? So know that that you've done lots of great things. My wife actually has some of your products as well.
• 42:39
  So walk us through EMF, right, which is you know, I interviewed doctor Eley recently, and we talked a lot about EMF and the harm of EMF, the harm of carrying a cell phone around, how that cell phone becomes an antenna to amplify their weapons against us, which, you know, we can't all just go off grid. It's not possible. So walk us through EMF and and how what you've done or the solutions that you've found to counteract that.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: So we started making some composite products for ourselves. Because as I said earlier, we were targeted with electric, energy weapons and things. So we were trying to find relief for ourselves. Also just in general, extremely sensitive to EMF, being able to sleep. A lot of people are very sensitive and they keep putting more and more and more towers up.
• 43:31
  So they're saturating your environment with more EMF and technology and this is not good for our bodies. It's not good for the biofields in our bodies. So if you're feeling headaches, you can't sleep, mood swings, irritation, or a suite of flu like symptoms, that's radiation. That's EMF radiation. Right?
• 43:51
  And, a lot of people are becoming more and more sensitive to it. So we started making these products for ourselves because we needed relief and they worked really well for us. And then our friends and family said, hey, can you make some for me? And then before we knew it, we were shipping it all over the place. And then organically, a business grew from that.
• 44:11
  So that's what started our business. The way we make our products, I'll show a couple of them here, right? The way we make our products, this is our sleeping pod, is we take a blend of specific types of powders. We use shungite, crystal, quartz, iron oxide, a bunch of different, gemstone powders and metal powders, and we mix them all together in an epoxy resin. And when that when that resin cures or it gets hard, it puts a piezoelectric effect or pressure onto all those ingredients, which emanates a field of energy out from that particular composite.
• 44:52
  So that field is called orgone energy and it's like a life preserving field that also changes the environment. It changes the energy in the air around you. So it actually like helps to clean up the EMF radiation that's in your environment. So we've made things like pendants.
• 45:14
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• 46:43
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• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Had all different kinds of pendants and phone shields, things you can stick on your phone. Right? As well as our sleeping pods. We have charge plates, and we have things pyramids as well. And let me just tell you about the pyramid really quick.
• 47:05
  The reason why we make a pyramid shape is because there's been scientific studies that show that the geometrical shape of a pyramid actually helps to focus the energy through the tip of the pyramid. There's fan fascinating studies all on our website, by the way, by Alexander Golod who did pyramid studies and, you know, he had some pretty big funding and got like these giant ion column measuring devices where he could measure the ion column that's coming from the the tip of the pyramids. And we we tell people that you can use them inside your house, but you can also use them to grid your property around your property. And believe it or not, there's a whole separate study that we show how the pyramids help to disseminate the chemtrails or the stuff that they're because they're just constantly spraying. And there's all these particulates, including those metamaterials and other different types of toxins, graphene oxide even coming down through these chemtrails that they they're constantly spraying.
• 48:06
  The pyramids create this column of energy that go up and they help to push back and push away all those metamaterials around you and your your home and your property. And it's not just good for humans. It's good for your plants. So people like we've had people that have, like, ranches and farms, and they will buy a bunch of pyramids from us so they can grid their entire property to help their wild to help their their livestock, to help their crops. You get bigger yields from your plants when you do this.
• 48:37
  We have we grow a we have, like, a Garden of Eden in a desert climate because of all of the organite that we have around us as well as we do some permaculture methods as well for growing our own food. So that's essentially the business that we've created just out of a need, and it's been it's been going really strong. God's really blessed it. We've helped a lot of people. We've been doing this for eight years now, and we've had over 20,000 customers in that time.
• 49:05
  So we ship all over the world. And if you wanted to put a link below this video so that people can go check us our stuff out, there you go. Make sure you use that link. And what we like to do also is we like to partner with people that are putting out alternative media and truth because of all the censorship which was so horrible. So we really wanna be able to support people like Seth and Man in America and your broadcast and others because if it wasn't for people like you doing the interviews that you do and doing the putting out the information that you put out, we don't know where we would be because we've been listening to you for years and we've been listening to others for years in order to get the real information so we have a clue as to what's going on because I certainly don't watch mainstream media anymore.
• 49:56
  If you purchase from that link, you will help support Seth's broadcast here because we have a nice little affiliate program for that. So and also if anybody has any questions, we have an extensive FAQs on our on our website there. We've made lots and lots and lots of videos over the years just explaining that there you go. There's our FAQs. So I'm pretty sure we've answered your questions.
• 50:24
  A lot of people ask like how many impairments should I get for my the size of my property? Can I replace one product with another? Will it work the same? You know? So that's pretty much it.
• 50:37
  Do you have any questions, Seth?
• 50:39
  Seth Holehouse: Probably well, I I do. So one thing in understanding that just looking at these products as an example, I know it's funny because, like, we've got these things around our house. Right? So I look in our fridge. We've got a little, you know, organized disk in the back of the fridge.
• 50:53
  We've got some Shanghai pyramids sitting around. I was, you know, telling you that I built a chem buster. Right? So I I went on and constructed this Don Croft Kimbuster. It's like eight feet tall that's sitting out in the yard.
• 51:05
  So, you know, we take this stuff seriously because I I to me, this is, like, everything you're talking about, what you're what we're doing is you're revealing the technology that's being used against us. But it's like people that wanna go and research Tesla and understand ether and a lot of things that Tesla was was looking at. This is real stuff. Right? This is the the there's real science behind this.
• 51:27
  And so with with the organ, I I just wanna make sure that I understand correctly that okay. So you mentioned our home being a kill box. Okay? For lot people, they have smart meters from the power company. We've got routers.
• 51:38
  We've got multiple cell phones. We've got the five g tower that's, you know, know, a quarter mile away. Whatever that is, so that all of these are actually bringing this this these signals. Right? They're harvesting our energy, and they're sending us energy, like, the wrong kinds of energy.
• 51:54
  Right? Yeah. And so, basically, looking for ways to shield ourselves from that, and to stop that, and to to ground ourselves. Right? We think grounding is really important.
• 52:05
  I spent Yes. Yesterday, just laying in the grass bare with my feet, you know, touching the grass, my body touching the grass, and, okay, this is what I need to do right now, is really really important. So with the Organite, am I correct understanding that what it does is it's not like it fights at a molecular level, right, where there's a piece of aluminum falling down, it bounces off some shield. Right? But more so that it's creating this this field that's actually as you you have more of these things, and that basically, it's creating the shield that's actually blocking and pushing back on a lot of this more nanotech and also these signals that are being sent.
• 52:46
  Is that correct?
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it's it's partially correct. And this is where like my husband would probably give a better answer than I could, but I'll do my best because it does work at the molecular level.
• 52:59
  Seth Holehouse: I see.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. In some respects, like, for example, Shungite, which we use in all our products, has the Shungite powder in them. What Shungite does that little buckyball, like a little soccer ball that of the the fullerenes that it has, the radiation goes inside of those little buckyballs and disappears. Like, it removes it from existence. They use shungite to clean up nuclear radiation sites because it it just it removes it.
• 53:30
  So it there is a molecular level that's happening there, and the properties of the shungite are put into your environment through the organ energy. So people always ask like, what's the difference between shungite and organite? So shungite is the ingredient. It's it's a it's a rare mineral that comes from one place in the world, which is Karelia, Russia, and some people think that it might be a meter meteorite or something. And that's what shungite is.
• 53:58
  And it's great for EMF remediation. It blocks EMF, it cleans up, like I said, the radiation. But Organite is when you take the composite of all those ingredients together and you put them in that resin and you create that organ field And that field has the properties of all these different ingredients like copper. We have copper in there as well. And copper, I think, has antibacterial properties.
• 54:25
  Right? So so there's so that property is being put out into the into the environment as well through the Oregon field. And one more thing I wanted to say actually, never mind. Just kinda drew a blank. I'm sorry about that.
• 54:40
  But but, you know, but but that's basically the difference between the two between shungite and organite, and it does work on that molecular level as well as cleaning the environment around you and and blocking a little bit.
• 54:55
  Seth Holehouse: That makes sense. Okay. That makes sense. So I think that, you know, you mentioned emerging technologies at the beginning. And what excites me is that I'm I'm a big believer in the principle of duality.
• 55:07
  Right? There's good and evil, or whether you wanna look at it as the yin yang, whatever. That with everything that goes why are you going going back to the fund you know, foundations of Western medicine, Western science. Right? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
• 55:19
  So I think that they're pushing forward this technology, this forbidden tech, this, you know, fourth industrial industrial revolution tech. I think simultaneously, what's happening is that the the upright, the good version of it is also being pushed forward. And so while they're advancing with this technology, there's a lot of stuff that's counteracting Right? It's like as you've seen, say, in basic sense, while, you know, YouTube has become a tool for the devil in many ways to silence the the good voices and to broadcast the evil voices. You have platforms like Rumble that have emerged that, you know, probably, if YouTube was not playing such a negative role, Rumble wouldn't exist.
• 55:57
  There wouldn't be a need for it. But as you have the evil that emerges and strengthens, naturally, the good also emerges and strengthens. And that's what's exciting to me is that there's so much pushback through what you're doing through parallel economies, through other technology. I I know a lot of people that are involved in a lot of projects, even, you know, folks that are working on developing a a righteous AI system. Right?
• 56:20
  Developing an AI that's gonna actually combat the evil AI. Right? Or looking at like, you know, what what Mike Adams is doing with his, his large language his language databases, AI system he's creating that can help provide correct So that's exciting to me. It's exciting what you're doing. As you mentioned, I'll make sure that I put a link in the description, and I appreciate what you've done.
• 56:43
  You've helped a lot of us that, right, we can't go to, you can't rely on a YouTube income or can't go to the typical ways to earn an income and are being censored and throttled everything. So I appreciate that. And so I'll make sure the link is below. And I guess in closing, do you have any final thoughts that you want to communicate before we sign off?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I wanted to I'm glad you brought up AI. And so because I didn't mention that whole part of this network, because a lot of the decision making processes that are part of that wireless body area network, they're not even being made by humans. They're being made by AI and deep decision making processes. So that's the part that kind of freaks me out the most. And that's where you see that God and what is right has been removed from this network and system.
• 57:31
  So, you know, I'm so I'm glad that you brought up the AI and but here's the thing. AI is not smarter than God. And we still do have free will and there are many, many, many things that you can do to protect yourself from this and to protect your family and to live through this storm. You do not have to participate in their utopia fifteen minute cities and their their cyborg Genesis, right? You do not have to be a part of that.
• 58:02
  You can be an organic free range human.
• 58:06
  Seth Holehouse: That's it. It was funny because my daughter's three years old, and her favorite thing she loves running around outside naked, right? Like most three year olds do. Like, you know, we put out there before you know it, her shorts are off, and she's frolicking through the back meadow. And yesterday, I this this scene of her, she was going and picking up all the little dandelion, the little seed pods that you blow on as a kid, and so she's running her little butts there out there, and she's just picking up all these little dandelions, and it was just she has golden, you know, little Goldilocks hair and blue eyes, and it was just like, like, this is it.
• 58:38
  Like, that's
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:39
  Seth Holehouse: That's it. That's the free range human. Of course, I'd get arrested if I was doing the same thing. But as as a little kiddo with their pure innocent soul, it's it was beautiful to see. And it was a reminder.
• 58:51
  It was a reminder of, I think, where we should be getting back to. So thank you again. It's been such a pleasure speaking with you. I can't wait till next time.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Same here. Yeah. Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.
• 59:03
  Seth Holehouse: Of course. Of course. Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed the interview. I've now got a really good, pretty short interview, maybe twenty, twenty five minutes or so with doctor Joel Brynd talking about inflammation, pain, things that probably affect most of us, unfortunately, even me in my thirties still dealing with these things.
• 59:22
  So, folks, please enjoy the interview. Doctor. Brend, it's such a pleasure to have you back on the show again. Thank you so much for being here today.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Great to be here again. Thanks.
• 59:33
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. So, we had you on recently, and we did a whole interview talking about pain management, inflation, and I'm sorry, not inflation, I covered so much financial, inflammation, I guess, and if we can solve inflammation and inflation, then we're we're we're set. And so but so your your background, so you're the you're the man behind Sweetamine, and I'm you know, whenever I I work with a potential advertiser, I do a lot of due diligence. I really look into not just the the product, but also the background. And I I find that there's also because the, you know, conservative or right wing media were so ostracized.
• 1:00:13
  Look at what's happened to Mike Lindell with advertisers pulling out the censorship that, you know, a big part of it is, okay, who's the person behind this, and why are they choosing to work with people like me? Because, you know, most advertisers that you'd see on your typical mainstream, you know, podcast or media company would say, oh, that guy, we don't like him because he's he's one of those conspiracy theorists. Right? So let me let me start there actually before getting into some of the details of of, you know, your your business and what you do. But what is it that's, you know, within you that's made you want to work with people like me that are, I would say, fearlessly trying to bring the truth to people and not following the mainstream narrative?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: Well, that's basically it, trying to bring truth to people. My interest is a scientist, and I decided that I wanted to be a scientist and learn about things like cancer and heart disease and all of those things when I was 10 years old, and it's always been a quest for truth for me. So our like mindedness on this just of a peace with the whole political and general worldview. I mean, most of the mainstream, the trouble with the mainstream is not that they're mainstream, but that there's a lot of dishonesty there. It's all about a particular agenda.
• 1:01:40
  As a matter of fact, all my education and research and everything like that in business over the years, I've adopted a maxim about credibility, which is to say, always believe everyone, to act according to his nature and his loyalty. Always observe very carefully to find out what those are. And you find that you can't trust everybody for what they say necessarily, but you find out where people are at. They will find ways of telling you. And you just need to be observant.
• 1:02:17
  In science, one might say that this discovery, and it is a great discovery, and I've been wanting to share it with the world since that happened in about 2010, really. The great moments, if you will. But it's always been about sharing the truth, sharing these discoveries. You might say that I have made a career out of researching and studying things that other people overlook. So the basis of this product of sweetamine inflammation is and how the body controls it.
• 1:03:00
  So for example, sweetamine is not a product like there are other products that fight inflammation. Sweetamine does not fight inflammation, it stops inflammation because it controls the master switch which is missing or inadequate due to basically dietary factors in the modern world. Fundamentally, it also is about a particular nutrient, glycine, which has been overlooked precisely because it has been called non essential. It's not non essential. There are a few other researchers around the world who understand that it is essential.
• 1:03:41
  They don't quite understand the universality of its application to bodily processes. Now at least science in general, the scientific establishment does understand that it is chronic inflammation, or in some cases acute inflammation like in COVID. But inflammation gone haywire which is what is responsible for everything from ordinary aches and pains to arthritis to diabetes to heart disease to cancer to Alzheimer's disease to autism from before the cradle to the grave. And they understand that. What they don't understand is the actual process of inflammation.
• 1:04:21
  And they don't understand how the controlling of the process is by a nutrient which is actually essential. So this process, if you look it up on Wikipedia or any textbook or any source about inflammation, it will tell you that it is the body's first response to infection or injury. Whenever there are cells that die, the cells of the immune system called macrophages, big eaters it means from the Greek, but these are the first responder cells of the immune system. They come around and they cause inflammation which is supposed to be part of the healing response, and then it's supposed to be self limiting and then it stops and then everything's healthy. The problem is that definition of the function of inflammation, it is a natural response to infection or injury is the half truth.
• 1:05:19
  It's only a natural response to infection, not injury. If you sprain your ankle and it gets all inflamed, swelling, knee pain, immobility, all of those aspects that we all are familiar with, with acute inflammation, that happens. But why does that happen? What does the immune system do? What's it doing causing inflammation which is really the secretion of poisons, things like antiseptics internally in order to kill that infection that came in before it kills you.
• 1:05:52
  Well wait a minute, if it's a blunt injury or a sunburn or any other cause cell death that has nothing to do with infection, why do you get inflammation? No good reason. It's a nutritional deficiency. This was the great discovery really. It's the two, it's that nutritional deficiency and also the fact about inflammation.
• 1:06:11
  And I had a couple moments back in 2010, as I mentioned before in 2010. Fell four feet onto a concrete floor directly onto my tailbone, and it really hurt like hell for about thirty seconds. And then over the next minute or two, was able to hobble around to finish what I was doing. And that night, my wife and I had tickets to a dinner dance, and we decided to go anyway, and we decided to dance anyway. That was okay.
• 1:06:42
  And the next morning, I felt perfectly okay, except I had a huge bruise on my lower back, which was the evidence that there was this great fall from which I completely recovered without any inflammation. And then that same year, I think you would know this being a New Yorker, my brother-in-law scored us tickets to a Yankee game in the new Yankee Stadium. They had just built it in o nine, and here it was the next year. I finally got a chance to go. It was a great day.
• 1:07:14
  It was the June near the solstice. Not a cloud in the sky, not an obstruction in the stands, nice new ballpark. And around the fifth inning, started to notice I was feeling a little warm around my thighs. Now I noticed then that right wherever my body was unprotected, and I wasn't wearing a hat, just a T shirt and shorts, I was like a boiled lobster. I hadn't done this to myself since I was in my teens, and I knew I was certain, 100% certain I was going to be for the next couple of days in excruciating pain doing simple things like bathing, dressing, undressing.
• 1:07:52
  That happened. I got in the shade, it started to go away, it continued to fade away, and there was no damage. So all of that pain and difficulty that you get after a sunburn, and probably also things like skin cancer, only happened not as a result of sun damage, but as a result of the immune system's reaction to the sun damage from secondary inflammation. And I learned this because I had been experimenting with glycine because excuse me. I had been working in amino acid biochemistry with a group that was studying aging, basically looking at amino acids, they were looking at another amino acid called methionine which is an essential amino acid.
• 1:08:42
  What led me to glycine was that other researchers had noticed that glycine is used to get rid of excess methionine. So the dietary difficulty that we're in now in general, the general omnivorous diet, meat, fish, poultry, vegetables, fruits, everything. The problem is that when you talk about the animal protein part of it, it's basically muscle meat. Muscle meat is rich in methionine and very poor in glycine. So methionine is essential, but as we do in the modern era now as we eat so much more meat than we need, we have a very very high meat protein intake.
• 1:09:24
  That what your liver does instead of recycling the methionine like we all learned in biochemistry about the methionine cycle and how essential it is and how the body needs to recycle it. Well because the body is so good at recycling methionine, it doesn't need much. And whenever there's more, it gets rid of it. The trouble is to get rid of every molecule of excess methionine that is eaten, it needs to use up two molecules of glycine. And you're not eating the part of the animal where all the glycine is in the collagen.
• 1:09:52
  So there is this imbalance. And that's basically what it is. You need about ten grams a day dietary intake of glycine. Your body can make some but it can't make enough. And you need about ten grams a day and the average diet has only about two or three.
• 1:10:08
  So sweetamine gives you the other eight grams a day of glycine to give you a really healthy level of glycine which is according to the textbooks way beyond normal because what's normal is just what everybody has, and almost everybody is deficient. So the way I like to explain it is that the immune system is organized in the same way we would organize things. I like to say that we're created in the same way that we create things, and that gives us a very easy handle on God's creation and how it works. We don't have to burn too much wood in our brains to figure it out. It's really laid out right there for the most So when we have, let's say, an accident on the highway, who comes around the first responders, these macrophages of the immune system, they're the first responders.
• 1:11:05
  And they come around and they call the ambulances and the tow trucks and they take accident reports and they redirect traffic. And when everything's slowing again, they get back in their squad cars and they get back to their headquarters. Now all the while they're armed, they've got loaded guns hanging out of their holsters, but they wouldn't think of using them unless there are bad actors present. And in the same way in your immune system, those macrophages, they are capable of causing inflammation, shooting up the place with all kinds of poisons to kill whatever infectious microbe got in before it kills you, if there are any. But if there aren't any, those guns should stay in the holsters, and they should just do what they do and get back to their ordinary business.
• 1:11:53
  In cellular biology, it's now understood gradually, gradually people are creeping up. They understand that macrophages have two kinds of functions. One is the clean up the mess mode, and the other one is the shoot up the place mode. I call it two functions that occurred to me to call them with simple terms. They're either in the mend mode or the rend mode.
• 1:12:22
  So the ones that are shooting up the play, they're in the rend mode. They've got their guns drawn and out there firing poisons causing inflammation. And the other mode is the mend mode, cleaning up the mess, gobbling up cell debris from dying cells and so forth. And that's now called the M2 mode. So the non inflammatory or even anti inflammatory mode where they're just cleaning the place up, that's called M2.
• 1:12:51
  And the mode where they're causing inflammation, that's called M1, M for macrophage. And so they have boiled it down to these very simple things. They're just quite not there in terms of the universal effect of glycine as the controller of the master switch. So that's why I say it, sweetamine, which is mainly glycine, eight
• 1:13:12
  Seth Holehouse: grams of glycine for the most part,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: it doesn't stop it doesn't fight inflammation, it just stops. It throws that switch or prevents that on switch from being turned on. It's like a trigger lock. And so that's why when people are plagued by some form of inflammation that they can feel, unusual aches and pains and muscle soreness and so on, They will usually feel relief in two or three days. Typically that's it.
• 1:13:39
  If they've had chronic inflammation for a long time and it's done damage, there may be conditions where now that you can start to heal because it's not constantly inflamed, it may take months or even sometimes years before gradually things get better. But that's a nice healthy way to age. Every morning you wake up, you feel a little better than you did yesterday rather than a little bit worse. So that's a that's a more fun way to be aging. So It is.
• 1:14:06
  I would highly recommend it.
• 1:14:07
  Seth Holehouse: One question I have is because, you know, it's easy to market something and say, hey. This is this is gonna do x. And it's a it's a big idea, and it sounds like a great idea. Oh, wow. You know, stopping inflammation at the root.
• 1:14:20
  That's great. Think a lot of people, especially people that are an aging population, are looking for ways to find that kind of relief. One question I have though is, how many people end up buying it again? Right? Because let's just say you say, well, you know, we sell a thousand units a day and, you know, 10 of those are reorders.
• 1:14:37
  And tell me that, well, it's probably not
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: worth it.
• 1:14:38
  Seth Holehouse: Right? So how many people are actually buying it using it?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: Calculated once. It came out to how many buy again within a month, it was about three out of seven, something
• 1:14:47
  Seth Holehouse: like Really? So it's working. Because people aren't stupid. Oh yeah,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: it works. Some people that buy it and they probably never use it or they don't, you know, and the other thing about this because it's not a drug, it has no drugs of any kind, this is nutrition. This is just food you need every day. So people say, Oh, should I keep taking it? That's not just a marketing scheme.
• 1:15:09
  If you don't want to get your glycine from streetamine, go ahead and take some collagen supplements. You probably pay more for it, but you need that glycine every day. And so people take it and they say, well, my knee is better, my ankle is better, my shoulder is better, and then they stop taking it because everybody is trying to think of things like drugs. And this is why I think most of medical science kind of misses it. Even those researchers who have said, this glycine is amazing.
• 1:15:40
  It's great for everything, ischemia reperfusion injury and septic shock and cancer and diabetes. It works for so many things. And then you can see they're talking about how well, is long term therapy good and what's the toxicity? There isn't Food. They say food should be medicine and medicine food.
• 1:16:00
  In a way that's true, but it's not a drug because drugs are generally things which will affect a normal function in some way, augment it or will suppress it. So all of these things that you see on TV, for example, about these so called biologics or MABs, monoclonal antibodies, know, catechinumab and these things like Humira and other products like that. They target particular aspects of the inflammatory cascade response. Yes, there's one early on in the inflammatory cascade once inflammation starts, one of those products is something called TNF alpha. Well TNF alpha, that's a bad actuary, can cause insulin resistance, it can cause migraines and so forth.
• 1:16:49
  So you can tell it can cause psoriatic arthritis. So you can get these targeted biologic medicines and it will target that particular aspect of inflammation which is a normal process. And remember, if there's an infection, you need it. So that's why you have the disclaimers at the end of all those ads you see. Don't take this if you've been in a country where there's a lot of fungal infections, or where there's tuberculin, or if you might have an infection, and they give you a whole list of reasons not to take it because they know that it is targeting a normal function of your immune system.
• 1:17:26
  And if you need it to actually fight off an infection, you're going be vulnerable to that infection. So that's the trouble with the way drugs work. But this is part of the natural food intake and nutrition that you need every day. And if you get about eight grams a day, is what one serving of sweetamine is, that's really all you need. And you'll find that in cases of sunburn, blood injury, which you would expect, you're going to get inflammation and plenty of it.
• 1:17:59
  It just doesn't happen. So I was led to it through self experimentation because my research had led me to the fact that glycine was a beneficial nutrient that we probably weren't getting enough of, and it can only do good things and it's certainly harmless. So I just started taking ten grams a day and did it for a couple of years until stuff started to happen. Stuff happens. And when it happened, I was completely surprised by the results.
• 1:18:29
  So that's what led me to the discovery of it, and what led me to start it as a business was, and mind you, I was about 60 when I first started this business, that was about thirteen years ago. And was a professor of science, a university professor and a researcher, and that's all I wanted to do. I had no aspirations to be a businessman in my youth. So I did it because I realized that in our system, best way to get the word out about a discovery like that was to actually start a business, make it available to people. And then the more exposure you get, the more advertising, the more interviews, the more media you can then pour more resources into doing that, so the more people will hear about it.
• 1:19:23
  So a successful business is just the way to do it in an effective way rather than just fighting with academics, which I could do and which I still do. And so maybe in another ten years or twenty years the world will know about all of this research and how important glycine is. Meanwhile, why weren't people able to avail themselves of this discovery all that time between 2010 and between 02/1940 or 02/1950 or whenever else they might find out about it through mainstream sources of medical information deciding that this was appropriate for people to know about. We all know that sweetamine is a product which costs about a dollar a day ultimately. Regular users pay about a dollar a day for it.
• 1:20:14
  That's not what these biologics cost, these things that cost thousands of dollars a dose. This is not good for the bottom line of drug companies. So there is a disincentive to inform the world about it too, in addition to all the usual academic reluctance to give credence to something you didn't discover. Somebody else figured this out, and you didn't do it, and you're not going to get a Nobel Prize. Terrible.
• 1:20:44
  All that nonsense instead of just, I did this originally the same reason I wanted to be in science, to learn about the world and in particular as a medical researcher to find out about and be able to cure or prevent things like heart disease and cancer and of course as a product, I can't say it prevents, treats, or diagnoses any of these things. I have to give the usual FDA disclaimer. But what it does is it nutrition that is normally missing in the diet because unlike our forebears, we don't eat the whole animal. We generally just eat the muscle meats and we eat a lot of it. So in two ways that makes the deficiency worse.
• 1:21:31
  That's why we're suffering more than we ever did before from these kinds of chronic diseases. But if you go back to my academic training, it's interesting because my doctorate is in basic medical science with a major in biochemistry and minors in physiology and immunology. This discovery of the role of glycine is the perfect intersection between biochemistry, nutritional biochemistry, and cellular physiology, what turns inflammation on and off in the cell, and immunology because it's all about cells of the immune system. I look back on my life, my whole adult life since I was 10 really, since before adulthood, when I decided to get into this, the whole trajectory of my life has kind of led me to this discovery just by putting one foot in front of the other and following the trail of breadcrumbs that's there in medical literature. One thing I'd like to say is that a lot of times they'll say, Oh, so and so stumbled upon this.
• 1:22:37
  Stumbled upon glycine. I said, No, you stumble when you're not paying attention. You discover things when you are paying attention. What we mean usually when we say we stumbled upon it usually means that the result was surprising. It was something we saw something we did not expect.
• 1:22:54
  And the great Louis Pasteur said, Chance happens to the prepared mind. So that's what education is all about. My education is really to prepare my mind to be able to discover things, and not to ignore things. When we have a tendency in science and everything else to build on what what was before, that's a good thing, but in science, we're typically very much schooled in a whole library of dogma. You start with nutritional biochemistry, so we knew fifty years ago, one hundred years ago, what the essential amino acids were and what the nonessential ones were.
• 1:23:46
  So nobody questions that. I didn't either. But you have to be open to something happening that you did not expect. That I did not expect. That's such a
• 1:23:57
  Seth Holehouse: Just a relentless pursuit for the truth, and that's it.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It gets you to to very simple things. To truth.
• 1:24:03
  Seth Holehouse: Defining
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: Science isn't about the simple. People say sometimes, well, it can't be that simple. Just one molecule. Oh, yes. We don't reject hypotheses because they're too simple.
• 1:24:12
  We reject them because they're too complex.
• 1:24:14
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Well, so we've got for folks that are interested in getting Sweetamine, my sweetamine dot com slash Seth, If if they go there, the link will be in in the description, that will get them $5 off their first order. Or say they they happen to go to sweetamine.com because they Google it and whatnot. We do have There's
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: a discount code. Seth.
• 1:24:33
  Seth Holehouse: Seth, s e t h. So, Joel, it's such a pleasure speaking with you, and and I really just commend you and thank you for supporting people like me because, you know, I I can't go viral on YouTube. Like, a lot of YouTubers, they make a lot of money because the algorithms and these these big accounts. So so whether it's social media, YouTube, or other advertisers, it's really hard, you know, to to make it. But it's people like you that are willing to stand up for truth and do what's right that make shows like mine possible.
• 1:25:03
  So I thank you for that, and I thank you for what you're doing for folks. I encourage people to check out Sweetamine. You know, give it a shot. You try it for a month. It's easy.
• 1:25:11
  It's not that expensive. Try it for a month. It either works or it doesn't. And if it works.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Right. And it's great. By the way, it's risk free. If you buy a twelve day challenge or you buy a full month supply box of 30, and you decide you don't like it for any reason, just tell us. You get your money back.
• 1:25:25
  You don't have to return an empty box or anything like that. Just that's it. So it's really risk free.
• 1:25:31
  Seth Holehouse: There you go. Well, thank you again for being on. It's it's always nice speaking with you. Take care and God bless.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Okay. Thanks. See you again soon, hope. Right.